FabSwingers.com mobile

Join us FREE, we're FREE to use

Web's largest swingers site since 2006.

Already registered?
Login here

Back to forum list
Back to The Lounge

Lilly Allen

Jump to newest
 

By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

What a prick

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How can she think we give a fuck what she thinks,? She can't even sing.

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *SAchickWoman
over a year ago

Hillside desolate

What's she done?

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No idea what you saying aboot

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *ingle Beds LassWoman
over a year ago

Bedfordshire

Taken her opinion a bit too far more than likely

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ahhh missing out on the headline news!

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *luebell888Woman
over a year ago

Glasgowish


"How can she think we give a fuck what she thinks,? She can't even sing."

Not sure what she has done or said but she can sing and has a lovely voice.

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

Has she given up singing I thought her songs were pretty good.

Her Twitter work not so much.

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How can she think we give a fuck what she thinks,? She can't even sing.

Not sure what she has done or said but she can sing and has a lovely voice."

I think you're thinking of Lilly Savage..

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think she is beautiful

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *SAchickWoman
over a year ago

Hillside desolate


"How can she think we give a fuck what she thinks,? She can't even sing.

Not sure what she has done or said but she can sing and has a lovely voice.

I think you're thinking of Lilly Savage.."

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ah the crime of being female and daring to have a political opinion that doesnt match what the Sun and Mail believe so obviously she is vilified.

Bet the haters have no problem with Katie Hopkins though

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ah the crime of being female and daring to have a political opinion that doesnt match what the Sun and Mail believe so obviously she is vilified.

Bet the haters have no problem with Katie Hopkins though"

I think I love you. Platonically.

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *hloevtTV/TS
over a year ago

norwich

I think she had cute ears x

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ah the crime of being female and daring to have a political opinion that doesnt match what the Sun and Mail believe so obviously she is vilified.

Bet the haters have no problem with Katie Hopkins though"

The crime of using your phone to appear caring.

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ah the crime of being female and daring to have a political opinion that doesnt match what the Sun and Mail believe so obviously she is vilified.

Bet the haters have no problem with Katie Hopkins though

The crime of using your phone to appear caring."

Can you expand on that?

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *VineMan
over a year ago

The right place

I haven’t read beyond the headlines but it appears she’s is accusing tabloid newspapers of lying! I’m backing her then!

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

She said people were racist after the vote

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

Another "millionaire socialist" living in the London bubble.

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *VineMan
over a year ago

The right place


"She said people were racist after the vote"

Lots of people are racist!

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *emini ManMan
over a year ago

There and to the left a bit

Inclined to disagree with you OP given that much of the opinion she has expressed, and is perfectly entitled to express too, is aligned with my own thinking - just because you don't agree with what someone has to say doesn't make them a prick

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"She said people were racist after the vote

Lots of people are racist! "

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *illy999TV/TS
over a year ago

Taunton


"I haven’t read beyond the headlines but it appears she’s is accusing tabloid newspapers of lying! I’m backing her then! "

ME TOO.....

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *illy999TV/TS
over a year ago

Taunton


"Ah the crime of being female and daring to have a political opinion that doesnt match what the Sun and Mail believe so obviously she is vilified.

Bet the haters have no problem with Katie Hopkins though"

SOUNDS ABOUT RIGHT FROM THIS END !

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ah the crime of being female and daring to have a political opinion that doesnt match what the Sun and Mail believe so obviously she is vilified.

Bet the haters have no problem with Katie Hopkins though

SOUNDS ABOUT RIGHT FROM THIS END !"

Do you need help locating your Caps Lock key?

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *a LunaWoman
over a year ago

South Wales

I think she has a beautiful voice. She’s outspoken, forthright, and never dull. I might not always agree with her opinions but hey ho - life goes on.

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why is she a prick? She is just exercising her right to have an opinion.

At least be constructive in your criticism.

Mind you calling her "a prick" might be a compliment. It's certainly my pride joy.

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *stellaWoman
over a year ago

London

She’s bang on correct. Love her.

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *illy999TV/TS
over a year ago

Taunton


"Ah the crime of being female and daring to have a political opinion that doesnt match what the Sun and Mail believe so obviously she is vilified.

Bet the haters have no problem with Katie Hopkins though

SOUNDS ABOUT RIGHT FROM THIS END !

Do you need help locating your Caps Lock key? "

NEIN , I CAN MAKE LETTERS AND NUMERALS ONE FOOT HIGH WITH MY PHONE ! YOU'RE PRESUMING I'M USING A LAPTOP ?

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I’m entitled to my opinion if you don’t like it jog on

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I’m entitled to my opinion if you don’t like it jog on"

Yes you are. And other people are entitled to disagree with it and challenge you over it.

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *illy999TV/TS
over a year ago

Taunton


"Another "millionaire socialist" living in the London bubble. "

You must be renting thatcher's old gaff out in the sticks then..

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ah the crime of being female and daring to have a political opinion that doesnt match what the Sun and Mail believe so obviously she is vilified.

Bet the haters have no problem with Katie Hopkins though

SOUNDS ABOUT RIGHT FROM THIS END !

Do you need help locating your Caps Lock key?

NEIN , I CAN MAKE LETTERS AND NUMERALS ONE FOOT HIGH WITH MY PHONE ! YOU'RE PRESUMING I'M USING A LAPTOP ? "

No I'm not, phones have a caps lock key too.

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks


"I’m entitled to my opinion if you don’t like it jog on"

It would be a very lonely thread if your opinion wasn’t discussed.

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *emini ManMan
over a year ago

There and to the left a bit


"I’m entitled to my opinion if you don’t like it jog on"

You're entitled to it yes, you're also entitled to have people disagree with it because their opinion differs, and when you make a statement as simple as calling someone a "prick" without anything to back up your opinion, then you are going to face it being shot down.

As for jogging, I've given it up till the New Year

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *stellaWoman
over a year ago

London


"I’m entitled to my opinion if you don’t like it jog on"

Are you having a wee sulk?

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Anyone who expresses their opinion on social media should expect some criticism. Maybe 'prick' isn't the most articulate of responses though.

But the lazy accusation of 'racist' against millions of voters is entirely predictable and very insulting to lots of hard working voters.

I didn't vote Tory and was surprised with the landslide victory.

However, I respect it. We need a stong leadership but also a strong opposition. The later we don't have, mainly I believe due to very weak team work and fuzzy ideology over policies that matter to ordinary people.

Allen's opinion is just that. An opinion. Nothing to get angry about but something we should learn to ignore. Comments on social media can be hurtful but people need direction not ever spiralling condemnation.

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *VineMan
over a year ago

The right place


"Another "millionaire socialist" living in the London bubble. "

Millionaire socialists are the best kind. They will probably be worse off if a socialist government came to power. And even so, they stick to principals of justice and kindness. God bless her!

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *stellaWoman
over a year ago

London


"Anyone who expresses their opinion on social media should expect some criticism. Maybe 'prick' isn't the most articulate of responses though.

But the lazy accusation of 'racist' against millions of voters is entirely predictable and very insulting to lots of hard working voters.

I didn't vote Tory and was surprised with the landslide victory.

However, I respect it. We need a stong leadership but also a strong opposition. The later we don't have, mainly I believe due to very weak team work and fuzzy ideology over policies that matter to ordinary people.

Allen's opinion is just that. An opinion. Nothing to get angry about but something we should learn to ignore. Comments on social media can be hurtful but people need direction not ever spiralling condemnation.

"

Except for the fact I believe her opinion rooted in truth, my opinion. Calling things out doesn’t necessarily equate to lazy accusation or spiralling condemnation, yours is but an opinion too.

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Another "millionaire socialist" living in the London bubble.

Millionaire socialists are the best kind. They will probably be worse off if a socialist government came to power. And even so, they stick to principals of justice and kindness. God bless her! "

Exactly this. Voting for a taxation policy that will make her worse but benefit those with far less is something to be applauded not derided. It shows how fucked up we are as a society where caring about the poor and vulnerable is seen as something to sneer at

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Is it a lazy opinion though? I know many people who voted leave, and with one single exception, they will all openly admit they voted leave because they "wanted foreigners out", or some such similar sentiment.

Completely accept that it's a small sample, and there are many leavers who are not racist, but from my perspective and experience, it was all about race.

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Another "millionaire socialist" living in the London bubble.

Millionaire socialists are the best kind. They will probably be worse off if a socialist government came to power. And even so, they stick to principals of justice and kindness. God bless her!

Exactly this. Voting for a taxation policy that will make her worse but benefit those with far less is something to be applauded not derided. It shows how fucked up we are as a society where caring about the poor and vulnerable is seen as something to sneer at"

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is it a lazy opinion though? I know many people who voted leave, and with one single exception, they will all openly admit they voted leave because they "wanted foreigners out", or some such similar sentiment.

Completely accept that it's a small sample, and there are many leavers who are not racist, but from my perspective and experience, it was all about race. "

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We live in a world of free speech"

Nuff said

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I do find the misogyny shown in these threads interesting.

As is the fact people seem far more willing to ttack her than discuss her comments.

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Except for the fact I believe her opinion rooted in truth, my opinion. Calling things out doesn’t necessarily equate to lazy accusation or spiralling condemnation, yours is but an opinion too."

Truth is built on facts. Fact is there is racism in this country.

No fact supports that voters chose racism over whatever the opposition wanted. The opposition rem_mber had been found guilty of anti-Semitism. Fact

Allen's opinion was lazy in my opinion. Brains are required to analyse motives. Not casting slurs.

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *stellaWoman
over a year ago

London


"

Except for the fact I believe her opinion rooted in truth, my opinion. Calling things out doesn’t necessarily equate to lazy accusation or spiralling condemnation, yours is but an opinion too.

Truth is built on facts. Fact is there is racism in this country.

No fact supports that voters chose racism over whatever the opposition wanted. The opposition rem_mber had been found guilty of anti-Semitism. Fact

Allen's opinion was lazy in my opinion. Brains are required to analyse motives. Not casting slurs.

"

Your response is lazy in my opinion. Your inability to accept we both have “opinions” and your need to present yours as fact, oh dear!

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *emini ManMan
over a year ago

There and to the left a bit


"Anyone who expresses their opinion on social media should expect some criticism. Maybe 'prick' isn't the most articulate of responses though.

But the lazy accusation of 'racist' against millions of voters is entirely predictable and very insulting to lots of hard working voters.

I didn't vote Tory and was surprised with the landslide victory.

However, I respect it. We need a stong leadership but also a strong opposition. The later we don't have, mainly I believe due to very weak team work and fuzzy ideology over policies that matter to ordinary people.

Allen's opinion is just that. An opinion. Nothing to get angry about but something we should learn to ignore. Comments on social media can be hurtful but people need direction not ever spiralling condemnation.

"

Actually if you read what she said she doesn't accuse voters of being racist but that social media gives a platform to far right wing views and allows them to be spread - you only have to look at the rise of Britain First off the back of manipulation of social media for evidence of that - she goes on to say that Boris won *in her opinion* because of deep rooted racism and misogyny and to an extent I think she's right - a lot of people voted in favour of "leave" off the back of the immigration issue that was being raised by the pro-Brexit campaign is one example of why I think she's right.

Either way at no point (and I've read the article on the Daily Fail website which if anything would highlight it further) has she directly said everyone that voted Tory is a racist.

As for expecting criticism/abuse for expressing an opinion - the reason for her explanation was to dispel word that she had quit Twitter because of abuse, so that's kind of a moot point - in the context of this thread though, the OP is entitled to his opinion, but it's a fairly baseless one when it amounts to calling someone a "prick" for holding a different opinion to his own.

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Leave that poor girl alone she may goes awol from fab !

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *arehamMan
over a year ago

handforth

I think she is very sexy,there is some photos of her hairy fanny on the internet while she was singing on stage.

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Except for the fact I believe her opinion rooted in truth, my opinion. Calling things out doesn’t necessarily equate to lazy accusation or spiralling condemnation, yours is but an opinion too.

Truth is built on facts. Fact is there is racism in this country.

No fact supports that voters chose racism over whatever the opposition wanted. The opposition rem_mber had been found guilty of anti-Semitism. Fact

Allen's opinion was lazy in my opinion. Brains are required to analyse motives. Not casting slurs.

Your response is lazy in my opinion. Your inability to accept we both have “opinions” and your need to present yours as fact, oh dear!"

You have beef. That's about all .

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

3 days in. These are going to be a long five years.

God help the forum if old Donny gets another term.

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *stellaWoman
over a year ago

London


"Anyone who expresses their opinion on social media should expect some criticism. Maybe 'prick' isn't the most articulate of responses though.

But the lazy accusation of 'racist' against millions of voters is entirely predictable and very insulting to lots of hard working voters.

I didn't vote Tory and was surprised with the landslide victory.

However, I respect it. We need a stong leadership but also a strong opposition. The later we don't have, mainly I believe due to very weak team work and fuzzy ideology over policies that matter to ordinary people.

Allen's opinion is just that. An opinion. Nothing to get angry about but something we should learn to ignore. Comments on social media can be hurtful but people need direction not ever spiralling condemnation.

Actually if you read what she said she doesn't accuse voters of being racist but that social media gives a platform to far right wing views and allows them to be spread - you only have to look at the rise of Britain First off the back of manipulation of social media for evidence of that - she goes on to say that Boris won *in her opinion* because of deep rooted racism and misogyny and to an extent I think she's right - a lot of people voted in favour of "leave" off the back of the immigration issue that was being raised by the pro-Brexit campaign is one example of why I think she's right.

Either way at no point (and I've read the article on the Daily Fail website which if anything would highlight it further) has she directly said everyone that voted Tory is a racist.

As for expecting criticism/abuse for expressing an opinion - the reason for her explanation was to dispel word that she had quit Twitter because of abuse, so that's kind of a moot point - in the context of this thread though, the OP is entitled to his opinion, but it's a fairly baseless one when it amounts to calling someone a "prick" for holding a different opinion to his own."

Thank you! Well said! I couldn’t be arsed to type a long response - me and my laziness.

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks


"I think she is very sexy,there is some photos of her hairy fanny on the internet while she was singing on stage. "

Excellent counterpoint.

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *illy999TV/TS
over a year ago

Taunton


"Ah the crime of being female and daring to have a political opinion that doesnt match what the Sun and Mail believe so obviously she is vilified.

Bet the haters have no problem with Katie Hopkins though

SOUNDS ABOUT RIGHT FROM THIS END !

Do you need help locating your Caps Lock key?

NEIN , I CAN MAKE LETTERS AND NUMERALS ONE FOOT HIGH WITH MY PHONE ! YOU'RE PRESUMING I'M USING A LAPTOP ?

No I'm not, phones have a caps lock key too."

NoW, Me BEiNg A dAFt OlD bInT, I'd wOUlDn'T KnOw aBoUt LoCk cAps...

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *stellaWoman
over a year ago

London


"

Except for the fact I believe her opinion rooted in truth, my opinion. Calling things out doesn’t necessarily equate to lazy accusation or spiralling condemnation, yours is but an opinion too.

Truth is built on facts. Fact is there is racism in this country.

No fact supports that voters chose racism over whatever the opposition wanted. The opposition rem_mber had been found guilty of anti-Semitism. Fact

Allen's opinion was lazy in my opinion. Brains are required to analyse motives. Not casting slurs.

Your response is lazy in my opinion. Your inability to accept we both have “opinions” and your need to present yours as fact, oh dear!

You have beef. That's about all ."

Nah, read GeminiMan’s response - and get your facts right.

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *mberWoman
over a year ago

Preston


"I do find the misogyny shown in these threads interesting.

As is the fact people seem far more willing to ttack her than discuss her comments."

I want you to know that very often your comments on this forum make my heart sing. Thank you

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Isolated from reality by her wealth but no less entitled to her opinion.

Amen.

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I do find the misogyny shown in these threads interesting.

As is the fact people seem far more willing to ttack her than discuss her comments.

I want you to know that very often your comments on this forum make my heart sing. Thank you "

Hear hear

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The huge (and it has been huge) increase in racially motivated crime since the Brexit vote speaks volumes. To be honest I don't really care for anyone whose job is entertainment trying to tell anyone how to vote or live. I quite like her music and her dad was a bit of a hero of mine. Beyond that I pretty much ignore it. If you're going to become Bono then I'm going to be tuning out.

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Nah, read GeminiMan’s response - and get your facts right."

I'm absolutely right. No question. Just wrong to debate with idol worshippers with heavy biased opinion.

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ah. A "pop" singer with an opinion. Anyone that doesn't agree with her must be misogynistic/homophobic/Islamophobic/hater. Please tick one or more of the above to jump on the bandwagon.

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *uzukiNo1Woman
over a year ago

Rhyl

I always think these threads are about the person passing....jeez, please add more to the heading...

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I like her.

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *emini ManMan
over a year ago

There and to the left a bit


"

Nah, read GeminiMan’s response - and get your facts right.

I'm absolutely right. No question. Just wrong to debate with idol worshippers with heavy biased opinion."

Writing others opinion off as heavily biased does not make you right - I presented my opinion further up and backed it up with reasoning and stand by what I said - it wasn't from a position of any bias other than towards my own opinion formed after reading an article in what is widely acknowledged to be a "heavily biased" publication

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *hatYorkLadMan
over a year ago

York

Can't stand her, she made all these statements about taking refugees in and then said she didn't have room for them. She's just a mouthy champagne socialist with a famous dad who had moderate chart success about 12 years ago.

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Nah, read GeminiMan’s response - and get your facts right.

I'm absolutely right. No question. Just wrong to debate with idol worshippers with heavy biased opinion."

Is your opinion not biased?

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

Well I suppose that just as we opinion on here and can be challenged then she too has an opinion that can be challenged to be fair

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Nah, read GeminiMan’s response - and get your facts right.

I'm absolutely right. No question. Just wrong to debate with idol worshippers with heavy biased opinion.

Is your opinion not biased? "

Unfortunately I read on-line articles so often become aware of Tweeted opinions etc. Ms Allen would know the effect her statements have. She would never read mine along with anyone else. They are lost among the abyss of server memory along with trillions of others.

I'm punching up. A shout of disagreement from the crowd. Of course I am biased but do not stand on the podium along with dear, dear Lilly ..

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

O o O oo


"just because you don't agree with what someone has to say doesn't make them a prick "

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

O o O oo


"Another "millionaire socialist" living in the London bubble.

Millionaire socialists are the best kind. They will probably be worse off if a socialist government came to power. And even so, they stick to principals of justice and kindness. God bless her!

Exactly this. Voting for a taxation policy that will make her worse but benefit those with far less is something to be applauded not derided. It shows how fucked up we are as a society where caring about the poor and vulnerable is seen as something to sneer at"

Agree with both comments, saves me typing

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"just because you don't agree with what someone has to say doesn't make them a prick

"

So I am not a prick..

Praise the Lord

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

O o O oo

OK rem_mber not to attack posters please or post anything that is against forum rules

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Me no likey but then I’m just a pleb who’s opinions(if I had any) account for fuck all.

The only thing about miss Allen I like is her song FUCK YOU as her in France they just play it without bleeping out the chorus which goes fuck you fuck you very much!!

And walking around a super market with that blearing out does bring a rye smile to my face.

Tony

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *ensualMan
over a year ago

Sutton


"

Nah, read GeminiMan’s response - and get your facts right.

I'm absolutely right. No question. Just wrong to debate with idol worshippers with heavy biased opinion.

Writing others opinion off as heavily biased does not make you right - I presented my opinion further up and backed it up with reasoning and stand by what I said - it wasn't from a position of any bias other than towards my own opinion formed after reading an article in what is widely acknowledged to be a "heavily biased" publication "

It is threads like this is the reason I stopped expressing opinions on Fab in regard to politics. It is also the reason why political discourse is doomed here and in the US.

What is the point of of actually reading what someone has said, or investigating the facts, analysing and responding with a reasoned opinion, when the counter response will be "prick" or "snowflake", or some other dismissal which does not address your argument but the dismissal is to appeal to the reflex bias of others.

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Everyone has a right to an opinion, just because someone gets offended doesn't mean you're right anymore than the person who offended you.

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

Im surprised labour didn't do better in the election, what with all these pop stars and successful actors telling us to vote for them. Especially with the shame of being labelled a racist if anyone dared not to. Im surprised that the good, hard working people of Britain didn't go for an out of control, anti-semitic, student union, who seemed to be planning on making Brexit last at the very least, the next decade. Who knew?!

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No one will agree with everyone's opinions, but I quite like her.

B

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Me no likey but then I’m just a pleb who’s opinions(if I had any) account for fuck all.

The only thing about miss Allen I like is her song FUCK YOU as her in France they just play it without bleeping out the chorus which goes fuck you fuck you very much!!

And walking around a super market with that blearing out does bring a rye smile to my face.

Tony"

That's a good song. She wrote one of the best songs about drugs I know "Everyone's At It". She also did some lovely cover versions, her cover of "Don't Get Me Wrong" by the Pretenders is really nice.

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

It is threads like this is the reason I stopped expressing opinions on Fab in regard to politics. It is also the reason why political discourse is doomed here and in the US.

What is the point of of actually reading what someone has said, or investigating the facts, analysing and responding with a reasoned opinion, when the counter response will be "prick" or "snowflake", or some other dismissal which does not address your argument but the dismissal is to appeal to the reflex bias of others."

Beautifully put, you get a full on yaaaaaaassss, Queen!

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" an out of control, anti-semitic, student union"

Just so you know, I'm nicking that phrase

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks


" an out of control, anti-semitic, student union

Just so you know, I'm nicking that phrase "

Yeah me too

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *emini ManMan
over a year ago

There and to the left a bit


"

Nah, read GeminiMan’s response - and get your facts right.

I'm absolutely right. No question. Just wrong to debate with idol worshippers with heavy biased opinion.

Writing others opinion off as heavily biased does not make you right - I presented my opinion further up and backed it up with reasoning and stand by what I said - it wasn't from a position of any bias other than towards my own opinion formed after reading an article in what is widely acknowledged to be a "heavily biased" publication

It is threads like this is the reason I stopped expressing opinions on Fab in regard to politics. It is also the reason why political discourse is doomed here and in the US.

What is the point of of actually reading what someone has said, or investigating the facts, analysing and responding with a reasoned opinion, when the counter response will be "prick" or "snowflake", or some other dismissal which does not address your argument but the dismissal is to appeal to the reflex bias of others."

Wise words as ever my friend

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Another "millionaire socialist" living in the London bubble.

Millionaire socialists are the best kind. They will probably be worse off if a socialist government came to power. And even so, they stick to principals of justice and kindness. God bless her!

Exactly this. Voting for a taxation policy that will make her worse but benefit those with far less is something to be applauded not derided. It shows how fucked up we are as a society where caring about the poor and vulnerable is seen as something to sneer at"

Totally. I don't understand why people who aren't millionaires get so profoundly outraged when millionaires suggest it would be better if they gave some of *their own money* to people who have nothing.

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Another "millionaire socialist" living in the London bubble.

Millionaire socialists are the best kind. They will probably be worse off if a socialist government came to power. And even so, they stick to principals of justice and kindness. God bless her!

Exactly this. Voting for a taxation policy that will make her worse but benefit those with far less is something to be applauded not derided. It shows how fucked up we are as a society where caring about the poor and vulnerable is seen as something to sneer at

Totally. I don't understand why people who aren't millionaires get so profoundly outraged when millionaires suggest it would be better if they gave some of *their own money* to people who have nothing."

I rem_mber Phil Collins saying back in the eighties he'd leave the country if Labour came to power. I never understood why Neil Kinnock didn't make that the fucking cornerstone of his campaign!

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

O o O oo


"OK rem_mber not to attack posters please or post anything that is against forum rules

"

To clarify, if a mod ever puts a reminder on like this it means they have removed the posts rather than ban people.

If you then decide to post it again or question why they were removed then you are likely to get a ban

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury


"Another "millionaire socialist" living in the London bubble.

Millionaire socialists are the best kind. They will probably be worse off if a socialist government came to power. And even so, they stick to principals of justice and kindness. God bless her!

Exactly this. Voting for a taxation policy that will make her worse but benefit those with far less is something to be applauded not derided. It shows how fucked up we are as a society where caring about the poor and vulnerable is seen as something to sneer at"

The mistake you're making here is assuming people like her, pop stars, movie stars etc, actually pay tax in the UK.

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *hil_SW19Man
over a year ago

Raynes Park


"She said people were racist after the vote"

Factually correct.

Some people are racist. Some people are xenophobic. Some people are anti-semitic.

But not all people are

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *obletonMan
over a year ago

A Home Among The Woodland Creatures


"Another "millionaire socialist" living in the London bubble. "

Best kind of socialist.

If they're rich, you know they're doing it from a position of principle and not merely self- interest.

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury


"OK rem_mber not to attack posters please or post anything that is against forum rules

To clarify, if a mod ever puts a reminder on like this it means they have removed the posts rather than ban people.

If you then decide to post it again or question why they were removed then you are likely to get a ban"

Maybe some users don't realise that you're a moderator. It's been said for a long time that mods should be identifiable to end this kind of mix up.

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *cloversCouple
over a year ago

Hull

I personally find her music & singing as dull as dish water and rather irritating to boot.

I find her political opinions & thoughts much the same however she is entitled to them as much as I'm entitled to mine.

She is also entitled to express them in any legal way she sees fit as also I am.

When we start to deny people or describe people that right or opportunity to express their opinions either by simply calling them "pricks" or curtailing platforms we become everything she is sounding about.

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury


"Another "millionaire socialist" living in the London bubble.

Best kind of socialist.

If they're rich, you know they're doing it from a position of principle and not merely self- interest.

"

With their money safe off-shore.

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I’m entitled to my opinion if you don’t like it jog on"

This, ladies and gentlemen, is the Great in Great Britain.

Yayyyyyyy!

Rough!

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Another "millionaire socialist" living in the London bubble.

Millionaire socialists are the best kind. They will probably be worse off if a socialist government came to power. And even so, they stick to principals of justice and kindness. God bless her!

Exactly this. Voting for a taxation policy that will make her worse but benefit those with far less is something to be applauded not derided. It shows how fucked up we are as a society where caring about the poor and vulnerable is seen as something to sneer at

Totally. I don't understand why people who aren't millionaires get so profoundly outraged when millionaires suggest it would be better if they gave some of *their own money* to people who have nothing."

This is the mindset of your typical Englishman today, unfortunately.

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"Another "millionaire socialist" living in the London bubble.

Millionaire socialists are the best kind. They will probably be worse off if a socialist government came to power. And even so, they stick to principals of justice and kindness. God bless her!

Exactly this. Voting for a taxation policy that will make her worse but benefit those with far less is something to be applauded not derided. It shows how fucked up we are as a society where caring about the poor and vulnerable is seen as something to sneer at"

Perhaps she is just too dim to see that she would be worse off..

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *oan of DArcCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow


"Another "millionaire socialist" living in the London bubble. "

Presumably you don't have a similar issue with the thousands in poverty in the NE voting for capitalism?

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *mmmMaybeCouple
over a year ago

West Wales


"Im surprised labour didn't do better in the election, what with all these pop stars and successful actors telling us to vote for them. Especially with the shame of being labelled a racist if anyone dared not to. Im surprised that the good, hard working people of Britain didn't go for an out of control, anti-semitic, student union, who seemed to be planning on making Brexit last at the very least, the next decade. Who knew?!"

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury


"Another "millionaire socialist" living in the London bubble.

Millionaire socialists are the best kind. They will probably be worse off if a socialist government came to power. And even so, they stick to principals of justice and kindness. God bless her!

Exactly this. Voting for a taxation policy that will make her worse but benefit those with far less is something to be applauded not derided. It shows how fucked up we are as a society where caring about the poor and vulnerable is seen as something to sneer at

Totally. I don't understand why people who aren't millionaires get so profoundly outraged when millionaires suggest it would be better if they gave some of *their own money* to people who have nothing.

This is the mindset of your typical Englishman today, unfortunately. "

I know right? If only we were more like those famously generous Scotsmen.

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *mmmMaybeCouple
over a year ago

West Wales

She’s no Billy Bragg or John Cooper Clark though so I don’t give a FF what she thinks.

S

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

Actually, I am not sure that she is as rich as some think. I thought her clothing or make up range crashed and music not doing great.

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *itty9899Man
over a year ago

Craggy Island


"What's she done? "

Called every one who voted Tory a racist and misogynist.

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *ickygirl41Woman
over a year ago

Glasgow


"Ah the crime of being female and daring to have a political opinion that doesnt match what the Sun and Mail believe so obviously she is vilified.

Bet the haters have no problem with Katie Hopkins though

I think I love you. Platonically."

I'm kinda in on that too

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *ickygirl41Woman
over a year ago

Glasgow


"She said people were racist after the vote"

Brexit was a racist campaign.

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury


"She said people were racist after the vote

Brexit was a racist campaign."

England should learn to be more inclusive, and less divisive. Maybe one day we'll learn to vote like the Scottish...

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *ickygirl41Woman
over a year ago

Glasgow


"I think she has a beautiful voice. She’s outspoken, forthright, and never dull. I might not always agree with her opinions but hey ho - life goes on."

this.

Tolerance goes a long fucking way.

Mostly politically she is great imo, she sometimes bites off more than she can chew but learns every time.

She's outspoken and obviously cares about people and equality.

She gets torn apart regularly by the redtop gutterpress but so do most women like her.

More power to her elbow for using her platform to try to help.

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"She said people were racist after the vote

Brexit was a racist campaign.

England should learn to be more inclusive, and less divisive. Maybe one day we'll learn to vote like the Scottish..."

Inclusive? The UK is very multicultural in many places.

Learn to vote like the Scots? Tick a box you mean?

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *mmmMaybeCouple
over a year ago

West Wales

Wow I must be the only fucker who voted leave because I read where the EU wants to & is going in the next ten years then?

Silly me, I should have just hated foreigners like all the racists doh!!

S

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *uenevereWoman
over a year ago

Scunthorpe


"What's she done?

Called every one who voted Tory a racist and misogynist."

No she didn't...though that is what the media inferred.

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How can she think we give a fuck what she thinks,? She can't even sing."

Piers?

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *ickygirl41Woman
over a year ago

Glasgow


"I’m entitled to my opinion if you don’t like it jog on"

You are.

However freedom doesn't mean license.

It means people are entitled to disagree or challenge.

If you don't want to discuss, debate, learn of other views or grow as a human on this earth then maybe not putting it out there on forums is the way to go?

That way nobody will disagree with you.

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury


"She said people were racist after the vote

Brexit was a racist campaign.

England should learn to be more inclusive, and less divisive. Maybe one day we'll learn to vote like the Scottish...

Inclusive? The UK is very multicultural in many places.

Learn to vote like the Scots? Tick a box you mean?"

No, vote for a nationalist party.

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

Didnt she offer to house immigrants. I am not sure but I would have not thought it was that easy with the social services etc poking their noses in

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *ickygirl41Woman
over a year ago

Glasgow


"I do find the misogyny shown in these threads interesting.

As is the fact people seem far more willing to ttack her than discuss her comments."

Exactly.

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury


"She said people were racist after the vote

Brexit was a racist campaign.

England should learn to be more inclusive, and less divisive. Maybe one day we'll learn to vote like the Scottish...

Inclusive? The UK is very multicultural in many places.

Learn to vote like the Scots? Tick a box you mean?"

My post literally sailed over your head didn't it.

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"Wow I must be the only fucker who voted leave because I read where the EU wants to & is going in the next ten years then?

Silly me, I should have just hated foreigners like all the racists doh!!

S

"

This

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"She said people were racist after the vote

Brexit was a racist campaign.

England should learn to be more inclusive, and less divisive. Maybe one day we'll learn to vote like the Scottish...

Inclusive? The UK is very multicultural in many places.

Learn to vote like the Scots? Tick a box you mean?

My post literally sailed over your head didn't it. "

Not at all. It made poor reading.

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *ickygirl41Woman
over a year ago

Glasgow


"I think she is very sexy,there is some photos of her hairy fanny on the internet while she was singing on stage. "

May want to start a leering post separately? This one is a discussion re politics, systemic racism, mysoginy, equality, justice and the ever widening gap between rich and poor. It's also about division of the working class (using data gathering and fear stimulus) into tiny groups to dilute their ability to fight back against entrenched power.

Just sayin'

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury


"She said people were racist after the vote

Brexit was a racist campaign.

England should learn to be more inclusive, and less divisive. Maybe one day we'll learn to vote like the Scottish...

Inclusive? The UK is very multicultural in many places.

Learn to vote like the Scots? Tick a box you mean?

My post literally sailed over your head didn't it.

Not at all. It made poor reading."

Please feel free to rewrite it and educate me. Im very poorly educated. I blame Thatcher. ( obviously).

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

I do think the tabloids round on her a bit and especially the Daily Mail.. I do wonder though if bad publicity is better that no publicity. It's one way to keep her in the public eye as she is not exactly filling stadiums with her music. It baffles me why the papers keep running stories on Gemma Collins and the Kardashian and the cast of TOWIE. Must be their publicity people I think. Unless you have any other ideas..

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"She said people were racist after the vote"

No. She really didn't.

Quiz... What do you call someone who uses a swingers forum to call someone they've never met a name that they'll never read ?

I'll have a go ..... uhmmmmmmmm Taylor Swift ..... What a twunt.

Uhhh Ohhhhhhhh - She'll be hopping mad now.

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"She said people were racist after the vote

No. She really didn't.

Quiz... What do you call someone who uses a swingers forum to call someone they've never met a name that they'll never read ?

I'll have a go ..... uhmmmmmmmm Taylor Swift ..... What a twunt.

Uhhh Ohhhhhhhh - She'll be hopping mad now. "

Only one flaw in that comment. How do you know Taylor and Lilly are not on here.. if they where then what username would they have... ?

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *ickygirl41Woman
over a year ago

Glasgow


"

Nah, read GeminiMan’s response - and get your facts right.

I'm absolutely right. No question. Just wrong to debate with idol worshippers with heavy biased opinion."

When you close your mind to others you lose the ability to learn and grow.

Your facts are actually opinion, and while it's good to think and feel and hold positions it's also good to be open to others perspectives and be willing to learn new things.

Pick a fact you have or an opinion you hold and if I have an opposing view we could discuss and learn from each other and we can start a thread to debate warmly respectfully and openly?

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"She said people were racist after the vote

No. She really didn't.

Quiz... What do you call someone who uses a swingers forum to call someone they've never met a name that they'll never read ?

I'll have a go ..... uhmmmmmmmm Taylor Swift ..... What a twunt.

Uhhh Ohhhhhhhh - She'll be hopping mad now.

Only one flaw in that comment. How do you know Taylor and Lilly are not on here.. if they where then what username would they have... ?"

Willy Cannon and Shake-U-Off

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Nah, read GeminiMan’s response - and get your facts right.

I'm absolutely right. No question. Just wrong to debate with idol worshippers with heavy biased opinion.

When you close your mind to others you lose the ability to learn and grow.

Your facts are actually opinion, and while it's good to think and feel and hold positions it's also good to be open to others perspectives and be willing to learn new things.

Pick a fact you have or an opinion you hold and if I have an opposing view we could discuss and learn from each other and we can start a thread to debate warmly respectfully and openly?

"

It does not follow.

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford


" This one is a discussion re politics, systemic racism, mysoginy, equality, justice and the ever widening gap between rich and poor. It's also about division of the working class (using data gathering and fear stimulus) into tiny groups to dilute their ability to fight back against entrenched power.

Just sayin'

"

And your remedy ? I say with respect

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Another "millionaire socialist" living in the London bubble.

Millionaire socialists are the best kind. They will probably be worse off if a socialist government came to power. And even so, they stick to principals of justice and kindness. God bless her!

Exactly this. Voting for a taxation policy that will make her worse but benefit those with far less is something to be applauded not derided. It shows how fucked up we are as a society where caring about the poor and vulnerable is seen as something to sneer at

Perhaps she is just too dim to see that she would be worse off.."

Do you honestly think she is 'dim'?

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wow, being female and having political views should not generate hate, even if some folk don't agree with those opinions.

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *mmmMaybeCouple
over a year ago

West Wales


"Another "millionaire socialist" living in the London bubble.

Millionaire socialists are the best kind. They will probably be worse off if a socialist government came to power. And even so, they stick to principals of justice and kindness. God bless her!

Exactly this. Voting for a taxation policy that will make her worse but benefit those with far less is something to be applauded not derided. It shows how fucked up we are as a society where caring about the poor and vulnerable is seen as something to sneer at

Perhaps she is just too dim to see that she would be worse off..

Do you honestly think she is 'dim'? "

I don’t but then I’m also not dim enough to think all her money is in the local branch of the CO-OP bank in a standard account & not spread around offshore investments & therefore not taxable.....

S

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *mmmMaybeCouple
over a year ago

West Wales


"Wow, being female and having political views should not generate hate, even if some folk don't agree with those opinions. "

It’s not because she is famous though. If she wasn’t famous her views would possibly mean she would have been one those protesting outside Number 10 after a democratic election because they didn’t like the result.

Her & Hopkins appear to be at either end of the political spectrum. Odd how one is a millionaire the other recently declared bankrupt (Good tbh) & it’s not the way round you might think....

I dislike both of them as both are extremists in their views & anyone who doesn’t agree with them is an idiot. I wouldn’t debate what Sunday roast to have with either of them let alone politics .

S

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *rincess PhoenixWoman
over a year ago

Southampton


"Wow, being female and having political views should not generate hate, even if some folk don't agree with those opinions. "

It's got nothing to do with her gender

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By * and R cple4Couple
over a year ago

swansea


"Ah the crime of being female and daring to have a political opinion that doesnt match what the Sun and Mail believe so obviously she is vilified.

Bet the haters have no problem with Katie Hopkins though"

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *ickygirl41Woman
over a year ago

Glasgow


" This one is a discussion re politics, systemic racism, mysoginy, equality, justice and the ever widening gap between rich and poor. It's also about division of the working class (using data gathering and fear stimulus) into tiny groups to dilute their ability to fight back against entrenched power.

Just sayin'

And your remedy ? I say with respect "

Don't actually have one dear. I try to make things better where I can in my wee spot in the world and hope that others do the same in theirs

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford


" This one is a discussion re politics, systemic racism, mysoginy, equality, justice and the ever widening gap between rich and poor. It's also about division of the working class (using data gathering and fear stimulus) into tiny groups to dilute their ability to fight back against entrenched power.

Just sayin'

And your remedy ? I say with respect

Don't actually have one dear. I try to make things better where I can in my wee spot in the world and hope that others do the same in theirs "

Fair play..

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

I dislike both of them as both are extremists in their views & anyone who doesn’t agree with them is an idiot. I wouldn’t debate what Sunday roast to have with either of them let alone politics .

S"

Being a social democrat, remainer, anti tory and defending migrants are not extreme views surely?

I see myself, and Lily Allen, as having centre left opinions.

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"I loved her music but now she just seems a bit....unhinged!

Glamourised taking Ketamine, cocaine and god knows what else

Released a racist music video

Slept with Liam Gallagher when he was married (both of them are dicks for that!)

Hired female prostitutes whilst on tour (and still married)

I'm sorry but I think she needs help

"

She has had mental issues in the past. She has admitted to them.

She deals with it I guess.

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As a general barometer in life, anyone that pisses off Piers Morgan is doing something right

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *ourayloversCouple
over a year ago

chesterfield

Oxygen thief

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As a general barometer in life, anyone that pisses off Piers Morgan is doing something right"

I hear that. Jeremy Clarkson punching Piers Morgan in the face completely changed my view of him.

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

O o O oo


"OK rem_mber not to attack posters please or post anything that is against forum rules

To clarify, if a mod ever puts a reminder on like this it means they have removed the posts rather than ban people.

If you then decide to post it again or question why they were removed then you are likely to get a ban

Maybe some users don't realise that you're a moderator. It's been said for a long time that mods should be identifiable to end this kind of mix up. "

The people knew

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *osie xWoman
over a year ago

wolverhampton

No idea what she's said or done but i'd still do her dad

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As a general barometer in life, anyone that pisses off Piers Morgan is doing something right"

Armando Ianucci said it best when he described him as a "stoat faced tosser"

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No idea what she's said or done but i'd still do her dad "

Fist bump. He looks like he'd be a proper handful

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ


"I think you're thinking of Lilly Savage.."

She got into my ex girlfriend's car one night when she was opening a nightclub in Derby a few years ago, it may as well have been Robbie Savage

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *osie xWoman
over a year ago

wolverhampton


"No idea what she's said or done but i'd still do her dad

Fist bump. He looks like he'd be a proper handful "

Doesn't he just

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *arkus1812Man
over a year ago

Finedon ,


"Another "millionaire socialist" living in the London bubble.

Millionaire socialists are the best kind. They will probably be worse off if a socialist government came to power. And even so, they stick to principals of justice and kindness. God bless her!

Does the name Robert Maxwell ring any bells?"

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *hatawasteMan
over a year ago

stafford

Free speech so no one has any right to criticise

Racist views ..put it this way the TP are pro right . Right wing normally means prejudice of some kind of the other .

Blaming everyone ? I guess not all people but it's clear some of the extreme thinking types of people who are not white and British with warped views on equality have been allowed to filter through under some justification of a 'win' and therefore it's ok somehow?

Is it dangerous to us ?

Only as long as people don't fall for the hate speech and the ' engerlaand' types telling us all what we should think . They need to wind their necks in and don't try to poison things even further for us all .

If we can ' filter' out these people regardless of political party then I reckon we all win .. if not then we will have some kind of trouble .

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

And the extreme left never try and tell us what to think. Liberal faschism. If you don't tow the party line then you are toast comrade..

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"Free speech so no one has any right to criticise

Racist views ..put it this way the TP are pro right . Right wing normally means prejudice of some kind of the other .

Blaming everyone ? I guess not all people but it's clear some of the extreme thinking types of people who are not white and British with warped views on equality have been allowed to filter through under some justification of a 'win' and therefore it's ok somehow?

Is it dangerous to us ?

Only as long as people don't fall for the hate speech and the ' engerlaand' types telling us all what we should think . They need to wind their necks in and don't try to poison things even further for us all .

If we can ' filter' out these people regardless of political party then I reckon we all win .. if not then we will have some kind of trouble .

"

How do you propose filtering them out..?

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *anejohnkent6263Couple
over a year ago

canterbury

Bye bye you won't be missed

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

Lily Allen tweeted of the 1400 plus girls in Rochdale who were pimped that “there’s a strong possibility they would have been r8ped or abused anyway”.

Hark the righteous Corbynist in all her sick, demented glory.

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury


"And the extreme left never try and tell us what to think. Liberal faschism. If you don't tow the party line then you are toast comrade.. "

As Greta says "up against the wall".

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *mberWoman
over a year ago

Preston


"I think she is very sexy,there is some photos of her hairy fanny on the internet while she was singing on stage.

May want to start a leering post separately? This one is a discussion re politics, systemic racism, mysoginy, equality, justice and the ever widening gap between rich and poor. It's also about division of the working class (using data gathering and fear stimulus) into tiny groups to dilute their ability to fight back against entrenched power.

Just sayin'

"

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *Man1263Man
over a year ago

Stockport

Multi Millionaire

No clue what she is on about, but just thinks she does.

That's it really.

Oh and throws toys out of pram when she is wrong.

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *rincess PhoenixWoman
over a year ago

Southampton


"No idea what she's said or done but i'd still do her dad "

He looks like he would be a dirty git x

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *Man1263Man
over a year ago

Stockport


"Lily Allen tweeted of the 1400 plus girls in Rochdale who were pimped that “there’s a strong possibility they would have been r8ped or abused anyway”.

Hark the righteous Corbynist in all her sick, demented glory.

"

That is unbelievable.

Just wow.

And people defend her?

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"She said people were racist after the vote"

The very same people are probably racists anyways

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Of course shes entitled to comment, but like a few other popular artists; shes suddenly taken to believing that she can preach politics(let's be honest the whole of Facebook and a large section of Fab thinks it's the House of commons).

I'm sick of hearing such accusations about all parties.

If you vote Tory, you're an unsympathetic, entitled, arrogant, middle class twerk.

If you vote labour you're a moaning have not, Marxist demanding everyone with money gives it to you.

I'll happily listen to discussions, and debates but people using their platform to make such indictments to score popularity isnt a good thing.

I read the account on Twitter seems to have gone?

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *Man1263Man
over a year ago

Stockport


"She said people were racist after the vote

The very same people are probably racists anyways "

I wonder if the self same people she called racist also blame the victims like she did?

Not letting that one drop, she said it, she meant it, even if she did later back track.

Just sick blaming the victims of r@pe.

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Lily Allen is ok. She’s a nice person. Over the years I’ve learned that she’s passionate and provocative. Don’t that the things she says literally. She phrases things in extremes. In reality she’s much more nuanced and understanding. She just doesn’t think before expressing

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Lily Allen is ok. She’s a nice person. Over the years I’ve learned that she’s passionate and provocative. Don’t that the things she says literally. She phrases things in extremes. In reality she’s much more nuanced and understanding. She just doesn’t think before expressing "

Whoops typo. I meant *don’t take the things she says so literally...

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

But the lazy accusation of 'racist' against millions of voters is entirely predictable and very insulting to lots of hard working voters.

"

Unlike the lazy accusations that tory voters lobbied about that everyone who voted labout are unemployed, uneducated, work shy scroungers?

I find the above equally predictable and insulting, yet no one felt the need to get irate about those insults.

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

If labour had won would Tory voters have taken to the streets declaring "Jeremy is not my prime minister!!"? Of course not, they'd have been at work...

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

OK... The Rochdale thing is massively out of context. She answered a question about whether the girls would have been attacked if migrants were banned from coming to the UK. What she was saying was that banning migrants from the UK won't stop young girls being groomed and abused. Which is true as we only need to look at the BBC and what's happened in children's homes and the Catholic Church to see. IF she had said they would have been abused anyway meaning it was their fault then that would be truly sick and wrong. But she really didn't mean that and I think that's pretty clear. The point she was actually making is very valid. Vulnerable young women are at risk from everyone, not just brown or foreign people. It was a fucking stupid question to ask in the first place.

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If labour had won would Tory voters have taken to the streets declaring "Jeremy is not my prime minister!!"? Of course not, they'd have been at work..."

And its dickheads like those you've mentioned who have given the left its bloody annoying stereotype.

But yes actually, I do think there would have been tory voters doing the exact same and shouting worse, as there are just as many dickhead tories as the dickhead extreme left.

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury


"OK... The Rochdale thing is massively out of context. She answered a question about whether the girls would have been attacked if migrants were banned from coming to the UK. What she was saying was that banning migrants from the UK won't stop young girls being groomed and abused. Which is true as we only need to look at the BBC and what's happened in children's homes and the Catholic Church to see. IF she had said they would have been abused anyway meaning it was their fault then that would be truly sick and wrong. But she really didn't mean that and I think that's pretty clear. The point she was actually making is very valid. Vulnerable young women are at risk from everyone, not just brown or foreign people. It was a fucking stupid question to ask in the first place. "

The fact you have to explain what she ment, just makes it worse.

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *mberWoman
over a year ago

Preston


"OK... The Rochdale thing is massively out of context. She answered a question about whether the girls would have been attacked if migrants were banned from coming to the UK. What she was saying was that banning migrants from the UK won't stop young girls being groomed and abused. Which is true as we only need to look at the BBC and what's happened in children's homes and the Catholic Church to see. IF she had said they would have been abused anyway meaning it was their fault then that would be truly sick and wrong. But she really didn't mean that and I think that's pretty clear. The point she was actually making is very valid. Vulnerable young women are at risk from everyone, not just brown or foreign people. It was a fucking stupid question to ask in the first place.

The fact you have to explain what she ment, just makes it worse. "

I disagree. It's putting it into context. I'd not heard the quote so as a stand alone it sounds awful. In context, not so much.

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham


"Another "millionaire socialist" living in the London bubble.

You must be renting thatcher's old gaff out in the sticks then.."

No, it's a Living Health Centre and has been for years. A restaurant before that.

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham


"Another "millionaire socialist" living in the London bubble.

Presumably you don't have a similar issue with the thousands in poverty in the NE voting for capitalism?"

People can vote for who they want to. Its called democracy.

If people respected democracy more, than we'd all get on better.

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"OK... The Rochdale thing is massively out of context. She answered a question about whether the girls would have been attacked if migrants were banned from coming to the UK. What she was saying was that banning migrants from the UK won't stop young girls being groomed and abused. Which is true as we only need to look at the BBC and what's happened in children's homes and the Catholic Church to see. IF she had said they would have been abused anyway meaning it was their fault then that would be truly sick and wrong. But she really didn't mean that and I think that's pretty clear. The point she was actually making is very valid. Vulnerable young women are at risk from everyone, not just brown or foreign people. It was a fucking stupid question to ask in the first place. "

Vulnerable young women are not at risk from everyone. Just from those who prey on vulnerable young women..

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"Another "millionaire socialist" living in the London bubble.

Presumably you don't have a similar issue with the thousands in poverty in the NE voting for capitalism?

People can vote for who they want to. Its called democracy.

If people respected democracy more, than we'd all get on better. "

Many MPs did not respect the democratic vote and lost their seats as a result ...

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

*Sighs*

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By *mmmMaybeCouple
over a year ago

West Wales


"Another "millionaire socialist" living in the London bubble.

Presumably you don't have a similar issue with the thousands in poverty in the NE voting for capitalism?

People can vote for who they want to. Its called democracy.

If people respected democracy more, than we'd all get on better.

Many MPs did not respect the democratic vote and lost their seats as a result ..."

So Democracy works, it’s just a bit slow

S

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Lily Allen is ok. She’s a nice person. Over the years I’ve learned that she’s passionate and provocative. Don’t that the things she says literally. She phrases things in extremes. In reality she’s much more nuanced and understanding. She just doesn’t think before expressing "

IE rude.

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"OK... The Rochdale thing is massively out of context. She answered a question about whether the girls would have been attacked if migrants were banned from coming to the UK. What she was saying was that banning migrants from the UK won't stop young girls being groomed and abused. Which is true as we only need to look at the BBC and what's happened in children's homes and the Catholic Church to see. IF she had said they would have been abused anyway meaning it was their fault then that would be truly sick and wrong. But she really didn't mean that and I think that's pretty clear. The point she was actually making is very valid. Vulnerable young women are at risk from everyone, not just brown or foreign people. It was a fucking stupid question to ask in the first place.

Vulnerable young women are not at risk from everyone. Just from those who prey on vulnerable young women..

"

Yes. The point being that those are not just brown or foreign people. Stopping migrants coming here won't stop young women being at risk from predators? Is that OK? Read it slowly and think about the words.

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Shes a politically uneducated embarrassment.

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ah the crime of being female and daring to have a political opinion that doesnt match what the Sun and Mail believe so obviously she is vilified.

Bet the haters have no problem with Katie Hopkins though"

100%!

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Shes a politically uneducated embarrassment."

Shes voicing her opinion. I disagree with her, but I'm comfortable with the the fact, that hearing someone say something,doesnt make it a fact.

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
 
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"OK... The Rochdale thing is massively out of context. She answered a question about whether the girls would have been attacked if migrants were banned from coming to the UK. What she was saying was that banning migrants from the UK won't stop young girls being groomed and abused. Which is true as we only need to look at the BBC and what's happened in children's homes and the Catholic Church to see. IF she had said they would have been abused anyway meaning it was their fault then that would be truly sick and wrong. But she really didn't mean that and I think that's pretty clear. The point she was actually making is very valid. Vulnerable young women are at risk from everyone, not just brown or foreign people. It was a fucking stupid question to ask in the first place.

Vulnerable young women are not at risk from everyone. Just from those who prey on vulnerable young women..

Yes. The point being that those are not just brown or foreign people. Stopping migrants coming here won't stop young women being at risk from predators? Is that OK? Read it slowly and think about the words. "

Yo that’s so naive. I’m a brown guy - I hang around with all kinds of people. Because I’m brown too people feel comfortable around me and trust me I’ve heard all kinds of mad shit and it’s almost always from first generation people that didn’t integrate. I’ve heard everything from wishing osama bin laden was still alive. Celebrating terror attacks. Talking about going to schools to pick up girls. Groups of sober guys to night clubs early in the evening to get a free entry stamp, leaving, and then returning when girls are d*unk and abuse them (and saying it’s the girls fault for doing haram things). I’ve Seen people get beat up because they were Christian. That’s just the beginning.

So in the particular case of Rochdale. Would it have helped to stop those people moving there? Yes. It would.

Also I’d like to add that yeah of course most immigrants are good people. But there is 100% an underground problem within certain communities and people need to wake up to it instead of trying to be seen as virtuous. Who cares if the church does it too? Sort that shit out as well! I wish people would go out and live life and learn first hand. Then maybe we could make the world a better place

 (closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately
back to top