FabSwingers.com forum: Fabbing while employed

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Could my work sack or discipline me for being on here? I suppose how would they ever know if I hid the face photos?

Has anyone ever had any experience of being found by work colleagues, family or friends?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not sure. I met a fireman and he said he could have got in trouble. He gave the reason but I can’t remember exactly what it was.

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By *isaAndNicoleTransTV/TS
over a year ago

Southport / Ellesmere Port

It's a good question actually. Theoretically they couldn't but I suppose it also depends on the type of work that someone does.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

It depends on if you're an "agent" for your corporation, i am. So yes, i could be.

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By *rallyFixated1Man
over a year ago

tipton

Maybe if you get caught wanking on company time?

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By *lbinoGorillaMan
over a year ago

Redditch

The work WiFi lets me on here, hence why I idle most of my days away on this forum, but only on my phone. If it were a PC they'd have something to say, I'm sure

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

It depends what your job is, who your bosses are and how discreet you are.

If you work in education in any way there is a possibility you could lose your job. It's unlikely but possible.

If you're any uniformed service and post pictures of yourself in that uniform, you're asking for trouble.

Check your contract. Is there a clause about bringing the company, service or profession into disrepute? If so keep photos 100% discreet.

Otherwise you will be ok. It would just be embarrassing if colleagues found out.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

Oh and don't use a company pc or laptop to look at fab or porn.

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By *uriousscouserWoman
over a year ago

Wirral

Yes, I could be. I probably wouldn't be, but there is a theoretical risk.

Catch-all clause of bringing the good named the company into disrepute.

Same clause also covers public d*unkenness and "living an immoral life". They're far more likely to be the reason for my dismissal.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There was a story in the news last month about a primary school headteacher who was sacked for having for having sex with two 17 year old boys he met on a dating app. It was ruled as unfair dismissal and he was awarded £700,000 compensation

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By *uriousscouserWoman
over a year ago

Wirral

"Yes, I could be. I probably wouldn't be, but there is a theoretical risk.

Catch-all clause of bringing the good name of the company into disrepute.

Same clause also covers public d*unkenness and "living an immoral life". They're far more likely to be the reason for my dismissal."

Damn typos...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some companies or organisations may class as being employed and on fab as actions of disrepute as mainstream society doesnt understand fab and the lifestyle and consider it dirty or depraved. As such they could possibly say its gross miss conduct, the arguement then is that it's your private life and not related to your employment providing you dont mention work etc..

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I work in retail so I guess I am ok but maybe need to make some of my photos private? (Just when I was getting used to the idea of making more photos public to get some interest)

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By *hoenixAdAstraWoman
over a year ago

Hiding in the shadows

Some jobs have 'morality clauses' in their contracts, actions that could bring the company into disripute etc

If you had very high profile, public job then it could also be an issue.

Personally, if you're doing your job, and doing it well, I don't see how what you do in private should be a factor, but to a lot it will, especially if you're in a position of power, someone with an axe to grind could use it against you.

If I was still teaching, then I'd be extra wary about putting my face pics on here, who I met.

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By *issyme555TV/TS
over a year ago

Motherwell

Yes most companys will have a code of conduct and how you represent the company you work for. However of you keep it in your private life I dont see a problem.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"I work in retail so I guess I am ok but maybe need to make some of my photos private? (Just when I was getting used to the idea of making more photos public to get some interest)"

As long as your face is obscured you will be ok. There's always the "someone stole my !memory stick" excuse anyway.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

"The work WiFi lets me on here, hence why I idle most of my days away on this forum, but only on my phone. If it were a PC they'd have something to say, I'm sure "

That's a bit risky whatever site you are looking on, in Mr Ruggers office a person was sacked for idling on FB all day...I am guessing internet usage is monitored

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I heard a story of a teacher, a woman who had a grudge with him posted a video of him having sex on public media, he lost his job and career because of this, in my opinion, this was wrong.

We all have private lives and what we do shouldnt jeopardise our jobs.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I received a message from a guy who had attached to the message a photographed his work ID badge with his face, position and the public sector employer clearly stated. The ID badge was in date so clearly current. I immediately messaged him and told him that was not wise given what his job was a what he did. He would definitely be dismissed if he was discovered having done that. Makes you wonder .....

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman
over a year ago

On a mooch

If I mentioned where I worked on here then yes definitely I could be sacked

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I could have been sacked.

Man, I could have been sacked if a parent saw me on a night out and I wasn’t acting ‘accordingly’.

A huge deal was made because we were expected to act professional in every aspect of life.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I keep my face pics hidden just in case it got round work that I was on here. I dont think they could sack me unless I had a photo up of me in uniform or with my work in the background.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"I received a message from a guy who had attached to the message a photographed his work ID badge with his face, position and the public sector employer clearly stated. The ID badge was in date so clearly current. I immediately messaged him and told him that was not wise given what his job was a what he did. He would definitely be dismissed if he was discovered having done that. Makes you wonder ..... "

Yes, we've seen pictures like that.

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By *sm265Woman
over a year ago

Shangri-la

I need to be cautious because of my job. I don't think I could be sacked but I'm pretty sure I'd be judged for it and it would undoubtedly be disapproved of.

I have a friend who is responsible for IT at a big company who says to be very careful of going onto sites like this on work computers or devices because the IT staff can view what sites etc are accessed by employees.

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By *hoenixAdAstraWoman
over a year ago

Hiding in the shadows

My first thought at that would be, "surely no one is that stupid" & it was fake!

A male friend split with his GF, she created a profile on a dating app, used the exact same type of photo, and sent really vile messages to women.

They obviously reported him, it got him in all sorts of trouble, until the truth finally came out!

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By *lbinoGorillaMan
over a year ago

Redditch

"I need to be cautious because of my job. I don't think I could be sacked but I'm pretty sure I'd be judged for it and it would undoubtedly be disapproved of.

What about on your own device, phone etc? Can they monitor those too?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

We aren't even allowed wifi at our work we have to use our data!

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By *isaAndNicoleTransTV/TS
over a year ago

Southport / Ellesmere Port

"I need to be cautious because of my job. I don't think I could be sacked but I'm pretty sure I'd be judged for it and it would undoubtedly be disapproved of.

What about on your own device, phone etc? Can they monitor those too? "

They can if you are using the company WiFi

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

"We aren't even allowed wifi at our work we have to use our data!"

I'd use my own data anyway.

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By *ooking4othersMan
over a year ago

Here ...

"I need to be cautious because of my job. I don't think I could be sacked but I'm pretty sure I'd be judged for it and it would undoubtedly be disapproved of.

What about on your own device, phone etc? Can they monitor those too?

They can if you are using the company WiFi "

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... and many companies do. In our company only devices we add can access the company network.

We have guest wifi which is open to all, it is password protected, and we monitor traffic on this to the device.

We also have sniffer software which is actively searching connected devices for a variety of things to protect the company, these include the usual for viruses etc but we also monitor other things e.g. sites used, data transfers etc to help identify if someone is potentially stealing data via picture or file transfers etc ... all fully automated and highly sophisticated.

We have dismissed employees and prosecuted them, and others, for things they did on our guest network.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Would your employer set up a fab account to check....?

(Obv don't use their phone or laptop etc, that would be plain silly, but on your own device, it's nothing to do with them innit....)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So if I'm incognito on my phone on my works internet they can see I'm on here??

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By *bsinthe_boyMan
over a year ago

Luton

Morality clauses are usually rendered defunkt under the human rights act and the various EU and UN conventions. We all have the right to enjoy our sex lives.

An employer can take issue if you identify them on a swingers site... So no wearing uniforms in pics here, for example.

Somebody could theoretically complain that they've seen you here and that they don't want to work with you or be a customer. That's a grey area, i do know of one person who had this happen and the employer asked them to be more discreet in their profile.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It depends what your job is, who your bosses are and how discreet you are.

If you work in education in any way there is a possibility you could lose your job. It's unlikely but possible.

If you're any uniformed service and post pictures of yourself in that uniform, you're asking for trouble.

Check your contract. Is there a clause about bringing the company, service or profession into disrepute? If so keep photos 100% discreet.

Otherwise you will be ok. It would just be embarrassing if colleagues found out."

If you work in education, you are losing your job 100% guaranteed.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

"So if I'm incognito on my phone on my works internet they can see I'm on here??

If you are using their WIFI yes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Could my work sack or discipline me for being on here? I suppose how would they ever know if I hid the face photos?

Has anyone ever had any experience of being found by work colleagues, family or friends?"

If you're Prince Andrew, your days are probably numbered anyway.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I heard a story of a teacher, a woman who had a grudge with him posted a video of him having sex on public media, he lost his job and career because of this, in my opinion, this was wrong.

We all have private lives and what we do shouldnt jeopardise our jobs."

Key words private ands public. If it becomes public it is no longer private

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By *epsonWoman
over a year ago

Biddulph

Some professions have a code of conduct that says their behaviour reflects their profession in both work and private. Being seen on a site that is seen to promote casual sex, is deemed as reflecting badly on some professions.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Theoretically, you're employer can track which websites are accessed through the company network and from which devices, so it is possuble that your employer could catch you out on accessing fab even though you are doing so on your own device and most companies have a zero tollerance approach to accessing adult content so I'd advise caution

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By *rwhowhatwherewhyMan
over a year ago

Aylesbury

I dont really care, I work in a factory so it's not like they will sack me if they find out.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My opinion on this - if your public profile is sufficiently anonymised then I don’t see how you could be bringing a company in to disrepute.

I choose to show my face privately to some people - I think this is within my entitlement to a private life.

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By *adMerWoman
over a year ago

Sandwich

Am I missing something here?

No one seems at all perturbed that people are wasting time on here when they should actually be working. If I was an employer I sure wouldn’t want to be paying anyone for doing anything other than their job!

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By *sm265Woman
over a year ago

Shangri-la

"I need to be cautious because of my job. I don't think I could be sacked but I'm pretty sure I'd be judged for it and it would undoubtedly be disapproved of.

What about on your own device, phone etc? Can they monitor those too? "

Don't think so. Will ask him!

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Anonymous profile, not on company devices or network, during accepted downtime, make sure others don't see what you're up to.

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By *isaAndNicoleTransTV/TS
over a year ago

Southport / Ellesmere Port

"Am I missing something here?

OP was talking about if their fab life was discovered, could that lead to them being dismissed.

Thread has also deviated to people using fab at work.

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By *irenGuy70Man
over a year ago

Cirencester

"So if I'm incognito on my phone on my works internet they can see I'm on here??

Yes. Incognito just prevents cookies, history and content being saved to your device, it doesn't hide the sites you are looking at from a works internet perspective. To do that you'll need a vpn, however a decent company IT policy will prohibit vpn connections being created, unless from specific allowed devices. That's how we ran our network anyway. Normally the employment contract will have an internet usage policy - we used to run reports for Managers on internet use for their staff.

You might not get the sack for having a profile here, but the chances increase considerably, I would say, if you use the companies internet facilities to access it.

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By *rAitchMan
over a year ago

Diagonally Parked in a Parallel Universe

The IT user policy we have to adhere to where I work is such that if I showed my employment on social media that could be construed as gross misconduct, with the exception of LinkedIn. They say that if we posted pictures or statements that could show us in a bad light then it puts the company in a bad light.

For that reason, I don't "follow" the company's facebook page. Funny thing was, a few months ago we all received an email from HR saying there were having a recruitment drive, and for everyone to share the company facebook post to encourage applicants. I replied saying I wouldn't as this contravenes the company IT policy

I am rarely in the office, as most of my work time is on the road. I only access FAB from my own phone and not my work phone, and for reasons already mentioned by others, when in the office I don't use the company guest wi-fi on my phone

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By *bsinthe_boyMan
over a year ago

Luton

"It depends what your job is, who your bosses are and how discreet you are.

If you work in education in any way there is a possibility you could lose your job. It's unlikely but possible.

If you're any uniformed service and post pictures of yourself in that uniform, you're asking for trouble.

Check your contract. Is there a clause about bringing the company, service or profession into disrepute? If so keep photos 100% discreet.

Otherwise you will be ok. It would just be embarrassing if colleagues found out.

If you work in education, you are losing your job 100% guaranteed."

I've worked in education for 20 years, 16 of those while on swingers sites and in the "scene". I take care that my public fab pics are not searchable. I also regularly google-stalk myself to ensure my full name isn't connected with my lifestyle - though i generally don't hide it and I do know a couple of teachers in London who are openly non-monogamous including their schools knowing.

Be careful and sensible. Never use work WiFi to access fab or similar. There will definitely be a policy prohibiting use of work facilities (including devices and WiFi) for anything remotely like this. Be careful with a VPN too. I'm currently permitted to use one on my work pc as the WiFi firewall is blocking sensible sites such as our stationer. That would not usually be permitted.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Am I missing something here?

I took that as a given.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would think it all depends on the companies acceptable behaviour policy and also the contract you signed with them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Could my work sack or discipline me for being on here? I suppose how would they ever know if I hid the face photos?

Has anyone ever had any experience of being found by work colleagues, family or friends?"

Depends what you agreed to when you took the job on. Most companies will outline their dos and donts of social media. Some may deem the ‘lifestyle’ as bringing it potentially bringing the company into disrepute.

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By *yn drwgMan
over a year ago

Camarthen

"Oh and don't use a company pc or laptop to look at fab or porn."

That would just be foolish, I think we all have had the cheeky look but do it in your own devices.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

How do you check that your public photos are not searchable? Thanks for the advice so far everyone.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't think they can sack you for being on here. But you could easily be the next one out!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"It depends what your job is, who your bosses are and how discreet you are.

If you work in education in any way there is a possibility you could lose your job. It's unlikely but possible.

If you're any uniformed service and post pictures of yourself in that uniform, you're asking for trouble.

Check your contract. Is there a clause about bringing the company, service or profession into disrepute? If so keep photos 100% discreet.

Otherwise you will be ok. It would just be embarrassing if colleagues found out.

If you work in education, you are losing your job 100% guaranteed.

How do I make sure my public photos are non searchable? My username has no relevance to my name so that should not be a connection either? How do I go about Google stalking myself lol?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Would your employer set up a fab account to check....?

(Obv don't use their phone or laptop etc, that would be plain silly, but on your own device, it's nothing to do with them innit....)"

You are right. I am paranoid!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I need to be cautious because of my job. I don't think I could be sacked but I'm pretty sure I'd be judged for it and it would undoubtedly be disapproved of.

What about on your own device, phone etc? Can they monitor those too? "

I hope not! I use my own data when it gets quiet sometimes on a night shift so I am not using company wifi but can they still see what you are looking at? I will think twice next time!

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By *ed-monkeyCouple
over a year ago

Hailsham

"I need to be cautious because of my job. I don't think I could be sacked but I'm pretty sure I'd be judged for it and it would undoubtedly be disapproved of.

What about on your own device, phone etc? Can they monitor those too?

I hope not! I use my own data when it gets quiet sometimes on a night shift so I am not using company wifi but can they still see what you are looking at? I will think twice next time!"

No ... it would be an extreme breach of your privacy rights

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"My opinion on this - if your public profile is sufficiently anonymised then I don’t see how you could be bringing a company in to disrepute.

I choose to show my face privately to some people - I think this is within my entitlement to a private life."

Yes I agree with this...it is difficult though to begin a private life without first having a few public photos

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By *anky_PankyWoman
over a year ago

Filthy Fuckeryville

"I keep my face pics hidden just in case it got round work that I was on here. I dont think they could sack me unless I had a photo up of me in uniform or with my work in the background. "

You know your clear face pic is your avatar right?!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I keep my face pics hidden just in case it got round work that I was on here. I dont think they could sack me unless I had a photo up of me in uniform or with my work in the background.

You know your clear face pic is your avatar right?!

Yeah lol I thought about it this morning and decided to put it up as its friday. I'm not in uniform and none of my pics are taken in work...probably still freak put around lunchtime and take it down again lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Could my work sack or discipline me for being on here? I suppose how would they ever know if I hid the face photos?

Has anyone ever had any experience of being found by work colleagues, family or friends?"

Depends on how your FABing, if you are using company equipment or in company time there could be an issue. But that goes for any kind of texting as well internet, don't think it is exclusive to FABing.

Could be an issue if you were wearing company uniform cos you are representing the company.

Depends on what circumstances you are FABing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Could my work sack or discipline me for being on here? I suppose how would they ever know if I hid the face photos?

Has anyone ever had any experience of being found by work colleagues, family or friends?"
its intrinsically wrong to be paid to be here

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The work WiFi lets me on here, hence why I idle most of my days away on this forum, but only on my phone. If it were a PC they'd have something to say, I'm sure

That's a bit risky whatever site you are looking on, in Mr Ruggers office a person was sacked for idling on FB all day...I am guessing internet usage is monitored"

I would always advise against using a work wifi for this reason even if it is your own mobile that is connecting to it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A few years back a colleague was disciplined (and ultimately dismissed) for inappropriate sexual behaviour. I was a key witness

His defence was his actions were entirely innocent but I was a pervert who's world view is so distorted by spending all my spare time at fetish and swinging clubs I sexualise everything I see. And the other 2 key witnesses were innocents who I had somehow conviced to read more in to his actions than there was but didn't even understand what they had witnessed.

That was a fun few weeks. Outed to HR and my entire line of management. Thankfully they were brilliant though. So now I'm relatively open about what I do. My colleagues know I go to weird clubs but they have no idea about specifics. I'm still discrete on here, and there are no links to my professional life beyond the fact I like most people onviously have a professional and private life

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By *anky_PankyWoman
over a year ago

Filthy Fuckeryville

I'm pretty lucky..... Managing a swinging club they actively encourage me to be on here

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By *bsinthe_boyMan
over a year ago

Luton

Regarding photos, as a couple of people have asked....

Ensue your fab photos are not anywhere else online, especially personal websites and social media. That way if anyone reverse image searches your fab pics they wont link to your personal/social media sites and vice versa.

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By *bsinthe_boyMan
over a year ago

Luton

One further comment on working in education. I've brought up alternative lifestyles and non-monogamy with the top HR bods at the academy chain i work for. They're clear that the private lives of staff are of no interest or concern unless someone feels children are put at risk.

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By *otsossieMan
over a year ago

local, but not too local

Yep as stated, everything gets logged on work network and potentially reported.

Also applies to WFH if connected to office.

Also applies to company mobile devices.

Just be careful. I’ve been pulled up twice for FB after I got annoyed with someone being a twunt.

I’d be sacked for this or my Twitter.

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By *arkinberksMan
over a year ago

Ascot

If you are accessing internet sites via your company’s WiFi then the company can see what sites you have viewed and the device used to access them. Some companies have security that blocks areas of the internet they consider to have no commercial interest or are counter to the company’s ethos e.g. porn. Again, if you try to access one of these, the attempt will be logged and your IT security person may ask questions.

If you use a company mobile phone to browse sites, your browsing history is held by the

mobile network. Using ‘private browsing’ on a device only means that the sites you have accessed aren’t saved in your browsing history.

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