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"My tip? Keep your money in your pocket! Too much a lottery of a race to have "a cert". " It's just a bit of fun, we don't bet on anything else as we think gambling is a huge waste of money but a flutter on the national is harmless and only once a year Although Mr B was horrified I put a fiver on each instead of a squid but like I said to him a squid 30 years ago is knocking on a fiver nowadays that's inflation for ya | |||
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"My tip? Keep your money in your pocket! Too much a lottery of a race to have "a cert". It's just a bit of fun, we don't bet on anything else as we think gambling is a huge waste of money but a flutter on the national is harmless and only once a year Although Mr B was horrified I put a fiver on each instead of a squid but like I said to him a squid 30 years ago is knocking on a fiver nowadays that's inflation for ya " When we where kids it was a big thing for us to be "allowed" to choose a horse each and my dad would put 5p e/w on it for us. It is all abit of fun, i only choose because of the names. W went in the bookies i told jay to choose a horse, he hadnt got his glasses and said i cant see and then there was a horse called "becauseicouldntsee" i also thought of you bouncy when i saw treacle | |||
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"had both 1st and 2nd each way first time have bagged the winner in quite a few years " Well done | |||
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"sadly 2 more horses paid the ultimate price today " It's so sad, a friend who is a groom there get's frustrated with the job as it's the people who work with them who are most upset. Died for people's greed | |||
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"RESULT - Grand National 1. Neptune Collonges D A Jacob 33-1 " had odds fixed at lunchtime of 40/1 | |||
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" Died for people's greed " guess you are referring to the greed of the Owners & Trainers as it is them who put their horses up for the race ... not those who place the bets | |||
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"sadly 2 more horses paid the ultimate price today It's so sad, a friend who is a groom there get's frustrated with the job as it's the people who work with them who are most upset. Died for people's greed " Agree.. Im not anti betting, or racing..nor do I think animals deserve a place at the dinner table..but I hate that race..I wouldnt watch it and I wouldnt put a single penny on a horse that run in it..its barbaric..a 'death race'...if it was 2 or 3 Jockeys being killed every time they would soon put a halt to it.. I absolutely sickens me to see an animal suffer like that.. | |||
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" Died for people's greed guess you are referring to the greed of the Owners & Trainers as it is them who put their horses up for the race ... not those who place the bets " Yes, that's exactly who im referring too. | |||
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"sadly 2 more horses paid the ultimate price today It's so sad, a friend who is a groom there get's frustrated with the job as it's the people who work with them who are most upset. Died for people's greed Agree.. Im not anti betting, or racing..nor do I think animals deserve a place at the dinner table..but I hate that race..I wouldnt watch it and I wouldnt put a single penny on a horse that run in it..its barbaric..a 'death race'...if it was 2 or 3 Jockeys being killed every time they would soon put a halt to it.. I absolutely sickens me to see an animal suffer like that.. " I have to agree with you Cam, i had a bad riding accident and when i think of the pain i went through and see some of the jockey's fall ouch but as a horse owner/lover it's even more heartbreaking to see a animal in pain and die. Many horses die trying to please, do there best for the owner's that put thme in that position. Just so sad and even worse to some not all but same owner's/trainer's these horses are just number and money lost to them. | |||
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"sadly 2 more horses paid the ultimate price today It's so sad, a friend who is a groom there get's frustrated with the job as it's the people who work with them who are most upset. Died for people's greed " As opposed to dying at the age of 4 when they're not wanted for flat racing any more? Please spare us the naive sentimentality - they're just horses... | |||
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"sadly 2 more horses paid the ultimate price today It's so sad, a friend who is a groom there get's frustrated with the job as it's the people who work with them who are most upset. Died for people's greed Agree.. Im not anti betting, or racing..nor do I think animals deserve a place at the dinner table..but I hate that race..I wouldnt watch it and I wouldnt put a single penny on a horse that run in it..its barbaric..a 'death race'...if it was 2 or 3 Jockeys being killed every time they would soon put a halt to it.. I absolutely sickens me to see an animal suffer like that.. " Really? People die at the TT most years - it still goes on, and rightly so. Of the two horses who were destroyed, one broke a leg either running on the flat or attempting a fence without his rider - quite how anyone plans for or prevents that I don't know. | |||
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"sadly 2 more horses paid the ultimate price today It's so sad, a friend who is a groom there get's frustrated with the job as it's the people who work with them who are most upset. Died for people's greed As opposed to dying at the age of 4 when they're not wanted for flat racing any more? Please spare us the naive sentimentality - they're just horses... " You would be surprised how many unwanted racehorses who are taken on by people who have the time to work with them and there future's look better than ever. As for sentimentality, each to there own but i have met some incredible horses/ponies in my time. The partnership between my horse and i horse is a amazing feeling like any other pet. | |||
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"sadly 2 more horses paid the ultimate price today It's so sad, a friend who is a groom there get's frustrated with the job as it's the people who work with them who are most upset. Died for people's greed As opposed to dying at the age of 4 when they're not wanted for flat racing any more? Please spare us the naive sentimentality - they're just horses... You would be surprised how many unwanted racehorses who are taken on by people who have the time to work with them and there future's look better than ever. As for sentimentality, each to there own but i have met some incredible horses/ponies in my time. The partnership between my horse and i horse is a amazing feeling like any other pet." I am well aware of the way some people rescue some race horses, but the reality is that many horses are not rescued. If the RSPCA and the other whiners have their way there will be no NH racing, and that means not a few horses dying in races, but thousands of horses dying so sentimental townies can sleep more sanctimoniously in their beds before they try to ban something else that they;ve decided to attack... | |||
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"sadly 2 more horses paid the ultimate price today It's so sad, a friend who is a groom there get's frustrated with the job as it's the people who work with them who are most upset. Died for people's greed As opposed to dying at the age of 4 when they're not wanted for flat racing any more? Please spare us the naive sentimentality - they're just horses... You would be surprised how many unwanted racehorses who are taken on by people who have the time to work with them and there future's look better than ever. As for sentimentality, each to there own but i have met some incredible horses/ponies in my time. The partnership between my horse and i horse is a amazing feeling like any other pet. I am well aware of the way some people rescue some race horses, but the reality is that many horses are not rescued. If the RSPCA and the other whiners have their way there will be no NH racing, and that means not a few horses dying in races, but thousands of horses dying so sentimental townies can sleep more sanctimoniously in their beds before they try to ban something else that they;ve decided to attack... " Well im not a sentimental townie, i live in the country and we hunt in our area but do it so that our horses are safe, enjoy and not injured in the process. | |||
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"sadly 2 more horses paid the ultimate price today It's so sad, a friend who is a groom there get's frustrated with the job as it's the people who work with them who are most upset. Died for people's greed As opposed to dying at the age of 4 when they're not wanted for flat racing any more? Please spare us the naive sentimentality - they're just horses... You would be surprised how many unwanted racehorses who are taken on by people who have the time to work with them and there future's look better than ever. As for sentimentality, each to there own but i have met some incredible horses/ponies in my time. The partnership between my horse and i horse is a amazing feeling like any other pet. I am well aware of the way some people rescue some race horses, but the reality is that many horses are not rescued. If the RSPCA and the other whiners have their way there will be no NH racing, and that means not a few horses dying in races, but thousands of horses dying so sentimental townies can sleep more sanctimoniously in their beds before they try to ban something else that they;ve decided to attack... Well im not a sentimental townie, i live in the country and we hunt in our area but do it so that our horses are safe, enjoy and not injured in the process. " if it's not a drag hunt then you're wide open to accusations of hypocrisy... | |||
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"sadly 2 more horses paid the ultimate price today It's so sad, a friend who is a groom there get's frustrated with the job as it's the people who work with them who are most upset. Died for people's greed As opposed to dying at the age of 4 when they're not wanted for flat racing any more? Please spare us the naive sentimentality - they're just horses... You would be surprised how many unwanted racehorses who are taken on by people who have the time to work with them and there future's look better than ever. As for sentimentality, each to there own but i have met some incredible horses/ponies in my time. The partnership between my horse and i horse is a amazing feeling like any other pet. I am well aware of the way some people rescue some race horses, but the reality is that many horses are not rescued. If the RSPCA and the other whiners have their way there will be no NH racing, and that means not a few horses dying in races, but thousands of horses dying so sentimental townies can sleep more sanctimoniously in their beds before they try to ban something else that they;ve decided to attack... Well im not a sentimental townie, i live in the country and we hunt in our area but do it so that our horses are safe, enjoy and not injured in the process. if it's not a drag hunt then you're wide open to accusations of hypocrisy..." Foxes enjoy the chase...didnt you know that...oh and of course feel no pain when they are ripped to shreds by dogs for the pleasure of humans. | |||
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"sadly 2 more horses paid the ultimate price today It's so sad, a friend who is a groom there get's frustrated with the job as it's the people who work with them who are most upset. Died for people's greed As opposed to dying at the age of 4 when they're not wanted for flat racing any more? Please spare us the naive sentimentality - they're just horses... " To some they're just horses, other people feel a bit differently about animals. | |||
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"sadly 2 more horses paid the ultimate price today It's so sad, a friend who is a groom there get's frustrated with the job as it's the people who work with them who are most upset. Died for people's greed Agree.. Im not anti betting, or racing..nor do I think animals deserve a place at the dinner table..but I hate that race..I wouldnt watch it and I wouldnt put a single penny on a horse that run in it..its barbaric..a 'death race'...if it was 2 or 3 Jockeys being killed every time they would soon put a halt to it.. I absolutely sickens me to see an animal suffer like that.. Really? People die at the TT most years - it still goes on, and rightly so. Of the two horses who were destroyed, one broke a leg either running on the flat or attempting a fence without his rider - quite how anyone plans for or prevents that I don't know." Two completely different types of race.. So your saying its no big deal that horses die in the race?..after all, 'they are just horses'...I take it you have never had a dog or another pet then? | |||
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"Release them all into the wild, what right do we have domesticating them and making them perform to our will be it eventing, racing, dressage or just schooling Horses die all the time doing any of the above events, why is one so much worse than the other? You can't pick and choose. Rather hypocrytical don't you think? " But this particular race has a reputation for horses being killed..its part of the attraction to some people I think.. | |||
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"Do we all feel the same about Cows, Chickes, Ducks etc ? Piggy wigs...what about the piggy wigs ?" Pigs belong in between two pieces of bread. Period. | |||
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"Release them all into the wild, what right do we have domesticating them and making them perform to our will be it eventing, racing, dressage or just schooling Horses die all the time doing any of the above events, why is one so much worse than the other? You can't pick and choose. Rather hypocrytical don't you think? But this particular race has a reputation for horses being killed..its part of the attraction to some people I think.." It only has a reputation because it gets reported on so widely! | |||
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"sadly 2 more horses paid the ultimate price today It's so sad, a friend who is a groom there get's frustrated with the job as it's the people who work with them who are most upset. Died for people's greed Agree.. Im not anti betting, or racing..nor do I think animals deserve a place at the dinner table..but I hate that race..I wouldnt watch it and I wouldnt put a single penny on a horse that run in it..its barbaric..a 'death race'...if it was 2 or 3 Jockeys being killed every time they would soon put a halt to it.. I absolutely sickens me to see an animal suffer like that.. Really? People die at the TT most years - it still goes on, and rightly so. Of the two horses who were destroyed, one broke a leg either running on the flat or attempting a fence without his rider - quite how anyone plans for or prevents that I don't know. Two completely different types of race.. So your saying its no big deal that horses die in the race?..after all, 'they are just horses'...I take it you have never had a dog or another pet then?" My dog is sitting next to me - it's what he's for. Because he was bred and trained to be my companion he is different, and gets trested differently to, say, the animals I eat or the animals that work for my benefit. Just like horses are for racing, or riding - it's why they exist. And bluntly, it is no big deal to me. They're horses. I'm sure there are people who believe horses are their companions - some may even be so. I am happy for the people who share that companionship with their horses, but these were race horses, doing what they were bred for. We may choose to anthropomorphize them, or see them as having human traits, but at bottom they're big daft animals who would not exist were it not for their rideability in races. Having a thoroughbed as a companion makes no more sense than having a rottweiler as a baby sitter, which is why most companion horses to which people form attachments tend to come from more domesticated breeds. | |||
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