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"Being tired and stressed can cause you problems. It can lead to feeling tired, exhausted, lacking in energy. But why to you constantly feel this way? According to ground-breaking new research, it could be that you're simply a moany cunt. " I'm all of the above , including a moany cunt  | |||
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"It’s my postnatal depression But I’m also a moany cunt" I am but it’s her post natal depression. Ha ha. | |||
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"It’s my postnatal depression But I’m also a moany cunt I am but it’s her post natal depression. Ha ha. " What’s funny? | |||
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"Pmsl I'm Def a moany cunt" Nothing wrong with a lady that moans  | |||
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"It’s my postnatal depression But I’m also a moany cunt I am but it’s her post natal depression. Ha ha. What’s funny?" I was trying to excuse my miserable nature by saying it’s your post natal depression that I have... you’re right. It’s too early for this. | |||
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"If you're feeling down, depressed and lonely. I know a place where you can go..." I find it helps if you Just listen to the music of the traffic in the city Linger on the sidewalk where the neon signs are pretty | |||
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"Being tired and stressed can cause you problems. It can lead to feeling tired, exhausted, lacking in energy. But why to you constantly feel this way? According to ground-breaking new research, it could be that you're simply a moany cunt. " Or maybe suffering from severe depression and contemplating suicide so never turn your back on someone who you presume to be grumpy | |||
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"Menopausal. Also a moany cunt. K" same kaz  | |||
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"I’d say it’s quite often the case, that many people are expected to give more in their work role these days and life/work balance goes out of the window. By the time we reach the weekend/holiday we are too mentally or physically exhausted to enjoy time out. In a continual cycle it leads to mental health issues we don’t always recognise until stress becomes a big factor. I’m soooo looking forward to 3 weeks off at Christmas where I can completely leave the day job alone and enjoy ME time" I hear you. This resonates so strongly with me. | |||
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"I’d say it’s quite often the case, that many people are expected to give more in their work role these days and life/work balance goes out of the window. By the time we reach the weekend/holiday we are too mentally or physically exhausted to enjoy time out. In a continual cycle it leads to mental health issues we don’t always recognise until stress becomes a big factor. I’m soooo looking forward to 3 weeks off at Christmas where I can completely leave the day job alone and enjoy ME time I hear you. This resonates so strongly with me. " | |||
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"Yes, and I have good reason to moan about it. I have a brain tumour, I'm menopausal, my Aunt died, my dog died, my cars died, my bathroom flooded, the weather is shit, I'm fat, I fell off my scooter and my shoulder still hurts bad, I feel unloved and I could literally go on and on and on and on...... " *Sends a hug* chin up neighbour | |||
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"Yes, and I have good reason to moan about it. I have a brain tumour, I'm menopausal, my Aunt died, my dog died, my cars died, my bathroom flooded, the weather is shit, I'm fat, I fell off my scooter and my shoulder still hurts bad, I feel unloved and I could literally go on and on and on and on...... *Sends a hug* chin up neighbour "Oh wow, Clem has a heart. Well thank you very much. | |||
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"I've got cunt flu.... "Wait, that came out all wrong, I have a cold but an STD.....  | |||
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"Young man, there's no need to feel down I said, young man, pick yourself off the ground I said, young man, 'cause you're in a new town There's no need to be unhappy......" I refuse to be that person.... wait for it ... | |||
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"Young man, there's no need to feel down I said, young man, pick yourself off the ground I said, young man, 'cause you're in a new town There's no need to be unhappy...... I refuse to be that person.... wait for it ..." They have everything for you men to enjoy You can hang out with all the boys...... | |||
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"Yes, and I have good reason to moan about it. I have a brain tumour, I'm menopausal, my Aunt died, my dog died, my cars died, my bathroom flooded, the weather is shit, I'm fat, I fell off my scooter and my shoulder still hurts bad, I feel unloved and I could literally go on and on and on and on...... *Sends a hug* chin up neighbour
Oh wow, Clem has a heart. Well thank you very much. "It's not nice when everything's mounting up on you. Everyone needs a hug sometimes. | |||
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"I've got cunt flu....
Wait, that came out all wrong, I have a cold but an STD..... ". That's fine, once you've had it, you can't catch it again. | |||
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"This is one of those hilarious comedy threads making light of mental health where anyone that comments on it not being funny is a killjoy snowflake who needs to lighten up and enjoy the bants isn't it? " Do not refer to me or anyone on here as a bloody Snowflake. I took it the way I took it. Stingly would never call me that name, whether I didn't get the Op or not. | |||
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"This is one of those hilarious comedy threads making light of mental health where anyone that comments on it not being funny is a killjoy snowflake who needs to lighten up and enjoy the bants isn't it? Do not refer to me or anyone on here as a bloody Snowflake. I took it the way I took it. Stingly would never call me that name, whether I didn't get the Op or not. " I dont think I actually called you or anyone on this thread a snowflake. If I need to deconstruct my own post to make it clearer. The opening post is horrible. The forum is usually a really supportive place for mental health. Suggesting in the name of humour that people struggling are moaning old cunts is really shitty. And let's be honest a newbie or many other forumites would have got a different reaction. But it's not funny. But the problem with threads like this is that people hide the cuntish nature of the comments as humour and the reference to snowflakes was actually satarising the inevitable reaction to anyone that doesn't buy in to the hilarious banter and dares to suggest that a thread like this isn't all that funny. | |||
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"I've got cunt flu....
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"No just bored of the fun sponges place is like a funeral home atm"Bye. | |||
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"This is one of those hilarious comedy threads making light of mental health where anyone that comments on it not being funny is a killjoy snowflake who needs to lighten up and enjoy the bants isn't it? Do not refer to me or anyone on here as a bloody Snowflake. I took it the way I took it. Stingly would never call me that name, whether I didn't get the Op or not. I dont think I actually called you or anyone on this thread a snowflake. If I need to deconstruct my own post to make it clearer. The opening post is horrible. The forum is usually a really supportive place for mental health. Suggesting in the name of humour that people struggling are moaning old cunts is really shitty. And let's be honest a newbie or many other forumites would have got a different reaction. But it's not funny. But the problem with threads like this is that people hide the cuntish nature of the comments as humour and the reference to snowflakes was actually satarising the inevitable reaction to anyone that doesn't buy in to the hilarious banter and dares to suggest that a thread like this isn't all that funny. " Well done. You couldn't be further from the truth if you tried. My own challenges with mental health are well documented in these very forums. If I, as a sufferer can't smile about my own illness, who can. It's my illness, I'll own it ta. I don't need your input. And indeed this thread. I personally don't need your amateur psycho analysis or prurient judgement. Congratulations on being one of those people, rightiously offended on behalf of people who aren't. Here's a fiver, get yourself a fresh tin of Brasso. | |||
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"This is one of those hilarious comedy threads making light of mental health where anyone that comments on it not being funny is a killjoy snowflake who needs to lighten up and enjoy the bants isn't it? Do not refer to me or anyone on here as a bloody Snowflake. I took it the way I took it. Stingly would never call me that name, whether I didn't get the Op or not. I dont think I actually called you or anyone on this thread a snowflake. If I need to deconstruct my own post to make it clearer. The opening post is horrible. The forum is usually a really supportive place for mental health. Suggesting in the name of humour that people struggling are moaning old cunts is really shitty. And let's be honest a newbie or many other forumites would have got a different reaction. But it's not funny. But the problem with threads like this is that people hide the cuntish nature of the comments as humour and the reference to snowflakes was actually satarising the inevitable reaction to anyone that doesn't buy in to the hilarious banter and dares to suggest that a thread like this isn't all that funny. Well done. You couldn't be further from the truth if you tried. My own challenges with mental health are well documented in these very forums. If I, as a sufferer can't smile about my own illness, who can. It's my illness, I'll own it ta. I don't need your input. And indeed this thread. I personally don't need your amateur psycho analysis or prurient judgement. Congratulations on being one of those people, rightiously offended on behalf of people who aren't. Here's a fiver, get yourself a fresh tin of Brasso. " If you want to play mental health top trumps I think as a suicide survivor I can probably at least match you. And it suggests that your suggestion of me being offended on other people's behalves is slightly wide of the mark... Maybe if you want to joke about mental health a public forum isnt the best place for it? Because being challenfed on it seems to have triggered you in to a mass of cliched responses | |||
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"I didn’t like the opening post much as found it dismissive of mental health. I guessed that wasn’t the intent of the poster. What is interesting is the inability to grasp that even if it wasn’t intended to be offensive the fact that it can come across that way to some and the mature accountability for acknowledging that wasn’t the intent but could be the result without being shitty. " Agreed. | |||
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"I'd still like a pay rise." I’d pop a twenty in your thong. | |||
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"I didn't take the post to e dismissive of mental health concerns at all. I think people read into things way to quickly. " I agree | |||
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"I cant see anywhere in the op that mentioned mental health. Being stressed and tired isn't solely owned by people with mental health problems "So stress isnt both a cause and symptom of mental health issues? | |||
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"I cant see anywhere in the op that mentioned mental health. Being stressed and tired isn't solely owned by people with mental health problems
So stress isnt both a cause and symptom of mental health issues?"Not always. | |||
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"I cant see anywhere in the op that mentioned mental health. Being stressed and tired isn't solely owned by people with mental health problems
So stress isnt both a cause and symptom of mental health issues?"It can be but it is also a symptom of many other things. | |||
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"I didn't take the post to e dismissive of mental health concerns at all. I think people read into things way to quickly. " And the beauty is neither you nor I is wrong. I respect the difference. | |||
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"I didn't take the post to e dismissive of mental health concerns at all. I think people read into things way to quickly. And the beauty is neither you nor I is wrong. I respect the difference. "I do too | |||
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"I didn't take the post to e dismissive of mental health concerns at all. I think people read into things way to quickly. And the beauty is neither you nor I is wrong. I respect the difference.
I do too " my point was simply a reaction to this not being played out elsewhere on the thread respectfully. | |||
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"I didn't take the post to e dismissive of mental health concerns at all. I think people read into things way to quickly. And the beauty is neither you nor I is wrong. I respect the difference.
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my point was simply a reaction to this not being played out elsewhere on the thread respectfully. "I hear you x | |||
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"Stressed almost beyond my capabilities of keeping my head above it all. Still the mask I'm wearing has a smile on it... ". You need to look after yourself buddy. | |||
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"Stressed almost beyond my capabilities of keeping my head above it all. Still the mask I'm wearing has a smile on it... .
You need to look after yourself buddy. "I know, it's a set of circumstances I've just got to work through. It's just a perfect storm of dramas. | |||
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"Stressed almost beyond my capabilities of keeping my head above it all. Still the mask I'm wearing has a smile on it... .
You need to look after yourself buddy.
I know, it's a set of circumstances I've just got to work through. It's just a perfect storm of dramas. "5-htp | |||
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"I cant see anywhere in the op that mentioned mental health. Being stressed and tired isn't solely owned by people with mental health problems
So stress isnt both a cause and symptom of mental health issues?
It can be but it is also a symptom of many other things."Of course. But the claim that the OP didn't mention mental health in his openong post is ridiculous. He mentioned something intrinsically linked to it and which almost everyone responding has taken as a direct reference to mental health | |||
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"I didn’t like the opening post much as found it dismissive of mental health. I guessed that wasn’t the intent of the poster. What is interesting is the inability to grasp that even if it wasn’t intended to be offensive the fact that it can come across that way to some and the mature accountability for acknowledging that wasn’t the intent but could be the result without being shitty. "
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"I cant see anywhere in the op that mentioned mental health. Being stressed and tired isn't solely owned by people with mental health problems
So stress isnt both a cause and symptom of mental health issues?
It can be but it is also a symptom of many other things.
Of course. But the claim that the OP didn't mention mental health in his openong post is ridiculous. He mentioned something intrinsically linked to it and which almost everyone responding has taken as a direct reference to mental health"He also mentioned his own mental health issues and thst the post wasn't related. You Mau have missed it, It was much further up. Almost everyone responding hasn't taken it as a direct reference to mental health though. Many have stated exactly the opposite, that they read it in the spirit it was intended. Thevyrouble with humour, you laugh or you don't. Because you laugh doesn't mean something is universally funny. Because you don't laugh doesn't mean it was intended to be offensive. It's obviously a sensitive issue for you, I read your own experience. I suspect the original poster may have had similar. (I saw him post on another thread a little while ago) Reading in between the lines. Be kind to one another. You're both children of the moon and the stars are you not. Much love to everyone. | |||
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"Yes, and I have good reason to moan about it. I have a brain tumour, I'm menopausal, my Aunt died, my dog died, my cars died, my bathroom flooded, the weather is shit, I'm fat, I fell off my scooter and my shoulder still hurts bad, I feel unloved and I could literally go on and on and on and on...... " Bloody hell that is a lot to take on board,I hope you find some sun on the horizon soon. | |||
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"Being tired and stressed can cause you problems. It can lead to feeling tired, exhausted, lacking in energy. But why to you constantly feel this way? According to ground-breaking new research, it could be that you're simply a moany cunt. Or maybe suffering from severe depression and contemplating suicide so never turn your back on someone who you presume to be grumpy" Yes!!!!! If you see an arm.in a sling you can be pretty sure what the problem is and have a good idea when it'll be better. Mental health issues are internal (can become external) and that's the problem. We've no idea what's going on in someone's mind. We need to be more aware of the "signs" the signals, the behavioural changes. I don't think we're good enough at recognising these things yet. Thank God a lot of the stigma around mental health is disappearing. More work to be done. | |||
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"Being tired and stressed can cause you problems. It can lead to feeling tired, exhausted, lacking in energy. But why to you constantly feel this way? According to ground-breaking new research, it could be that you're simply a moany cunt. Or maybe suffering from severe depression and contemplating suicide so never turn your back on someone who you presume to be grumpy Yes!!!!! If you see an arm.in a sling you can be pretty sure what the problem is and have a good idea when it'll be better. Mental health issues are internal (can become external) and that's the problem. We've no idea what's going on in someone's mind. We need to be more aware of the "signs" the signals, the behavioural changes. I don't think we're good enough at recognising these things yet. Thank God a lot of the stigma around mental health is disappearing. More work to be done." | |||
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" Of course. But the claim that the OP didn't mention mental health in his openong post is ridiculous. He mentioned something intrinsically linked to it and which almost everyone responding has taken as a direct reference to mental health" I can't see 'almost everyone'.. ?And there wont be two camps or strong division created on this thread I hope.. just understanding and acceptance everyone choses to deal with their demons differently. And definitely not by comparing things I suffered.. | |||
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" Of course. But the claim that the OP didn't mention mental health in his openong post is ridiculous. He mentioned something intrinsically linked to it and which almost everyone responding has taken as a direct reference to mental health I can't see 'almost everyone'.. ?And there wont be two camps or strong division created on this thread I hope.. just understanding and acceptance everyone choses to deal with their demons differently. And definitely not by comparing things I suffered.. " And understanding and acceptance that for some the opening post was a bit dismissive, even when not intended to be, and understanding and acceptance when challenged on that... | |||
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" Of course. But the claim that the OP didn't mention mental health in his openong post is ridiculous. He mentioned something intrinsically linked to it and which almost everyone responding has taken as a direct reference to mental health I can't see 'almost everyone'.. ?And there wont be two camps or strong division created on this thread I hope.. just understanding and acceptance everyone choses to deal with their demons differently. And definitely not by comparing things I suffered.. And understanding and acceptance that for some the opening post was a bit dismissive, even when not intended to be, and understanding and acceptance when challenged on that..." Ok. What would you like to happen Estella? You said it before but im not sure. | |||
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" Of course. But the claim that the OP didn't mention mental health in his openong post is ridiculous. He mentioned something intrinsically linked to it and which almost everyone responding has taken as a direct reference to mental health I can't see 'almost everyone'.. ?And there wont be two camps or strong division created on this thread I hope.. just understanding and acceptance everyone choses to deal with their demons differently. And definitely not by comparing things I suffered.. And understanding and acceptance that for some the opening post was a bit dismissive, even when not intended to be, and understanding and acceptance when challenged on that..." I think it was addressed in his own way, before you joined the thread. It's an emotional subject. Do you think the intention was genuinly to be disrespectful of people with MH issues, or an attempt at humour? Whether it's good or bad humour I'm not interested in. It's your perception of the intention that interests me. My filters are open if you'd prefer to discuss privately. Thank you. | |||
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" Of course. But the claim that the OP didn't mention mental health in his openong post is ridiculous. He mentioned something intrinsically linked to it and which almost everyone responding has taken as a direct reference to mental health I can't see 'almost everyone'.. ?And there wont be two camps or strong division created on this thread I hope.. just understanding and acceptance everyone choses to deal with their demons differently. And definitely not by comparing things I suffered.. " Its interesting and maybe I'm misreading but it almost feels that I'm being told to be more understanding and accepting while also being shown a complete lack of acceptance and understanding for my stance on this thread. | |||
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" Of course. But the claim that the OP didn't mention mental health in his openong post is ridiculous. He mentioned something intrinsically linked to it and which almost everyone responding has taken as a direct reference to mental health I can't see 'almost everyone'.. ?And there wont be two camps or strong division created on this thread I hope.. just understanding and acceptance everyone choses to deal with their demons differently. And definitely not by comparing things I suffered.. Its interesting and maybe I'm misreading but it almost feels that I'm being told to be more understanding and accepting while also being shown a complete lack of acceptance and understanding for my stance on this thread. " I am sorry you feel like this. Is this the best thread for you to be right now? | |||
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" Of course. But the claim that the OP didn't mention mental health in his openong post is ridiculous. He mentioned something intrinsically linked to it and which almost everyone responding has taken as a direct reference to mental health I can't see 'almost everyone'.. ?And there wont be two camps or strong division created on this thread I hope.. just understanding and acceptance everyone choses to deal with their demons differently. And definitely not by comparing things I suffered.. And understanding and acceptance that for some the opening post was a bit dismissive, even when not intended to be, and understanding and acceptance when challenged on that... Ok. What would you like to happen Estella? You said it before but im not sure. " Just using this thread as an example, but not exclusive to..you ask me what I’d like - the maturity to accept that not everyone agrees, the accountability to say gosh I’m sorry if you read my post that way, it wasn’t intended like that but I appreciate that you’ve interpreted it differently and that’s been off to you and that’s valid too. The mindfulness to grow a little with it. The ability to self reflect and realise we all fuck up. I fuck up, we all fuck up. We can challenge people or say we disagree in gentler ways that check intent whilst still educating about how we read something differently, we can respond to those challenges with grace and love and not from a place of defended anger. I’m agreeing with you, FV I’d like acceptance and understanding but for both sides to something, as both opinions are equally valid. | |||
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" Of course. But the claim that the OP didn't mention mental health in his openong post is ridiculous. He mentioned something intrinsically linked to it and which almost everyone responding has taken as a direct reference to mental health I can't see 'almost everyone'.. ?And there wont be two camps or strong division created on this thread I hope.. just understanding and acceptance everyone choses to deal with their demons differently. And definitely not by comparing things I suffered.. Its interesting and maybe I'm misreading but it almost feels that I'm being told to be more understanding and accepting while also being shown a complete lack of acceptance and understanding for my stance on this thread. " My take? It's a joke post. You didn't see it as such, personal to you, and you said as much. The writer didn't mean it to cause offence and was hurt by your response, that people would think he was being deliberately disrespectful or hurtful, maybe it's actual close to him too. Two people upset uneccesarily so through miss-interpretation. Have you talked to each other privately to clear the air? One of you should reach out perhaps? | |||
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" Of course. But the claim that the OP didn't mention mental health in his openong post is ridiculous. He mentioned something intrinsically linked to it and which almost everyone responding has taken as a direct reference to mental health I can't see 'almost everyone'.. ?And there wont be two camps or strong division created on this thread I hope.. just understanding and acceptance everyone choses to deal with their demons differently. And definitely not by comparing things I suffered.. And understanding and acceptance that for some the opening post was a bit dismissive, even when not intended to be, and understanding and acceptance when challenged on that... Ok. What would you like to happen Estella? You said it before but im not sure. Just using this thread as an example, but not exclusive to..you ask me what I’d like - the maturity to accept that not everyone agrees, the accountability to say gosh I’m sorry if you read my post that way, it wasn’t intended like that but I appreciate that you’ve interpreted it differently and that’s been off to you and that’s valid too. The mindfulness to grow a little with it. The ability to self reflect and realise we all fuck up. I fuck up, we all fuck up. We can challenge people or say we disagree in gentler ways that check intent whilst still educating about how we read something differently, we can respond to those challenges with grace and love and not from a place of defended anger. I’m agreeing with you, FV I’d like acceptance and understanding but for both sides to something, as both opinions are equally valid. " Got it. I guess it would happen if someone felt like you do. Maybe they dont. Or not yet? No point in saying sorry if you dont mean it. There is a lot of defensive anger on here. How about we stop picking this apart? | |||
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" Of course. But the claim that the OP didn't mention mental health in his openong post is ridiculous. He mentioned something intrinsically linked to it and which almost everyone responding has taken as a direct reference to mental health I can't see 'almost everyone'.. ?And there wont be two camps or strong division created on this thread I hope.. just understanding and acceptance everyone choses to deal with their demons differently. And definitely not by comparing things I suffered.. And understanding and acceptance that for some the opening post was a bit dismissive, even when not intended to be, and understanding and acceptance when challenged on that... I think it was addressed in his own way, before you joined the thread. It's an emotional subject. Do you think the intention was genuinly to be disrespectful of people with MH issues, or an attempt at humour? Whether it's good or bad humour I'm not interested in. It's your perception of the intention that interests me. My filters are open if you'd prefer to discuss privately. Thank you." I’ve stayed very clearly in my first post that I didn’t think it was the intent of the OP to be dismissive, that doesn’t negate the fact that for some the post was so. I found the challenge to be abrasive, but I understood it. I found the reaction to it to be really troublesome and the reason I posted. | |||
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" Of course. But the claim that the OP didn't mention mental health in his openong post is ridiculous. He mentioned something intrinsically linked to it and which almost everyone responding has taken as a direct reference to mental health I can't see 'almost everyone'.. ?And there wont be two camps or strong division created on this thread I hope.. just understanding and acceptance everyone choses to deal with their demons differently. And definitely not by comparing things I suffered.. And understanding and acceptance that for some the opening post was a bit dismissive, even when not intended to be, and understanding and acceptance when challenged on that... Ok. What would you like to happen Estella? You said it before but im not sure. Just using this thread as an example, but not exclusive to..you ask me what I’d like - the maturity to accept that not everyone agrees, the accountability to say gosh I’m sorry if you read my post that way, it wasn’t intended like that but I appreciate that you’ve interpreted it differently and that’s been off to you and that’s valid too. The mindfulness to grow a little with it. The ability to self reflect and realise we all fuck up. I fuck up, we all fuck up. We can challenge people or say we disagree in gentler ways that check intent whilst still educating about how we read something differently, we can respond to those challenges with grace and love and not from a place of defended anger. I’m agreeing with you, FV I’d like acceptance and understanding but for both sides to something, as both opinions are equally valid. Got it. I guess it would happen if someone felt like you do. Maybe they dont. Or not yet? No point in saying sorry if you dont mean it. There is a lot of defensive anger on here. How about we stop picking this apart? " I think it’s a useful discussion. I’m not angry by the way. | |||
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" Of course. But the claim that the OP didn't mention mental health in his openong post is ridiculous. He mentioned something intrinsically linked to it and which almost everyone responding has taken as a direct reference to mental health I can't see 'almost everyone'.. ?And there wont be two camps or strong division created on this thread I hope.. just understanding and acceptance everyone choses to deal with their demons differently. And definitely not by comparing things I suffered.. And understanding and acceptance that for some the opening post was a bit dismissive, even when not intended to be, and understanding and acceptance when challenged on that... I think it was addressed in his own way, before you joined the thread. It's an emotional subject. Do you think the intention was genuinly to be disrespectful of people with MH issues, or an attempt at humour? Whether it's good or bad humour I'm not interested in. It's your perception of the intention that interests me. My filters are open if you'd prefer to discuss privately. Thank you. I’ve stayed very clearly in my first post that I didn’t think it was the intent of the OP to be dismissive, that doesn’t negate the fact that for some the post was so. I found the challenge to be abrasive, but I understood it. I found the reaction to it to be really troublesome and the reason I posted. " The OP did say he had mental health issues himself. Isn't that an acceptance/admission that people could have been hurt, but that wasn't his intention? Why did the reaction trouble you? (I offered a suggestion why he reacted angrily above, don't know if you saw it) Sorry if this sounds like an episode of mastermind. | |||
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" Of course. But the claim that the OP didn't mention mental health in his openong post is ridiculous. He mentioned something intrinsically linked to it and which almost everyone responding has taken as a direct reference to mental health I can't see 'almost everyone'.. ?And there wont be two camps or strong division created on this thread I hope.. just understanding and acceptance everyone choses to deal with their demons differently. And definitely not by comparing things I suffered.. And understanding and acceptance that for some the opening post was a bit dismissive, even when not intended to be, and understanding and acceptance when challenged on that... Ok. What would you like to happen Estella? You said it before but im not sure. Just using this thread as an example, but not exclusive to..you ask me what I’d like - the maturity to accept that not everyone agrees, the accountability to say gosh I’m sorry if you read my post that way, it wasn’t intended like that but I appreciate that you’ve interpreted it differently and that’s been off to you and that’s valid too. The mindfulness to grow a little with it. The ability to self reflect and realise we all fuck up. I fuck up, we all fuck up. We can challenge people or say we disagree in gentler ways that check intent whilst still educating about how we read something differently, we can respond to those challenges with grace and love and not from a place of defended anger. I’m agreeing with you, FV I’d like acceptance and understanding but for both sides to something, as both opinions are equally valid. Got it. I guess it would happen if someone felt like you do. Maybe they dont. Or not yet? No point in saying sorry if you dont mean it. There is a lot of defensive anger on here. How about we stop picking this apart? I think it’s a useful discussion. I’m not angry by the way. " I said 'there is' not 'you are'. Glad you find it useful. I find it unnecessary. | |||
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" Of course. But the claim that the OP didn't mention mental health in his openong post is ridiculous. He mentioned something intrinsically linked to it and which almost everyone responding has taken as a direct reference to mental health I can't see 'almost everyone'.. ?And there wont be two camps or strong division created on this thread I hope.. just understanding and acceptance everyone choses to deal with their demons differently. And definitely not by comparing things I suffered.. And understanding and acceptance that for some the opening post was a bit dismissive, even when not intended to be, and understanding and acceptance when challenged on that... I think it was addressed in his own way, before you joined the thread. It's an emotional subject. Do you think the intention was genuinly to be disrespectful of people with MH issues, or an attempt at humour? Whether it's good or bad humour I'm not interested in. It's your perception of the intention that interests me. My filters are open if you'd prefer to discuss privately. Thank you. I’ve stayed very clearly in my first post that I didn’t think it was the intent of the OP to be dismissive, that doesn’t negate the fact that for some the post was so. I found the challenge to be abrasive, but I understood it. I found the reaction to it to be really troublesome and the reason I posted. The OP did say he had mental health issues himself. Isn't that an acceptance/admission that people could have been hurt, but that wasn't his intention? Why did the reaction trouble you? (I offered a suggestion why he reacted angrily above, don't know if you saw it) Sorry if this sounds like an episode of mastermind. "Understanding a response doesn’t mean I have to endorse it. | |||
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" Of course. But the claim that the OP didn't mention mental health in his openong post is ridiculous. He mentioned something intrinsically linked to it and which almost everyone responding has taken as a direct reference to mental health I can't see 'almost everyone'.. ?And there wont be two camps or strong division created on this thread I hope.. just understanding and acceptance everyone choses to deal with their demons differently. And definitely not by comparing things I suffered.. And understanding and acceptance that for some the opening post was a bit dismissive, even when not intended to be, and understanding and acceptance when challenged on that... Ok. What would you like to happen Estella? You said it before but im not sure. Just using this thread as an example, but not exclusive to..you ask me what I’d like - the maturity to accept that not everyone agrees, the accountability to say gosh I’m sorry if you read my post that way, it wasn’t intended like that but I appreciate that you’ve interpreted it differently and that’s been off to you and that’s valid too. The mindfulness to grow a little with it. The ability to self reflect and realise we all fuck up. I fuck up, we all fuck up. We can challenge people or say we disagree in gentler ways that check intent whilst still educating about how we read something differently, we can respond to those challenges with grace and love and not from a place of defended anger. I’m agreeing with you, FV I’d like acceptance and understanding but for both sides to something, as both opinions are equally valid. " This is good. Interesting that you take the same view as me. Both. Key word. I've read all of your posts on the thread. You seem to be focussing on one person's posts though. I think (my view only) both, (that word again), these guys need to talk. I think they have much in common. They could be good for each other. I don't think either of them meant to hurt the other. Manhugs and beers perhaps, yes? | |||
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" Of course. But the claim that the OP didn't mention mental health in his openong post is ridiculous. He mentioned something intrinsically linked to it and which almost everyone responding has taken as a direct reference to mental health I can't see 'almost everyone'.. ?And there wont be two camps or strong division created on this thread I hope.. just understanding and acceptance everyone choses to deal with their demons differently. And definitely not by comparing things I suffered.. And understanding and acceptance that for some the opening post was a bit dismissive, even when not intended to be, and understanding and acceptance when challenged on that... Ok. What would you like to happen Estella? You said it before but im not sure. Just using this thread as an example, but not exclusive to..you ask me what I’d like - the maturity to accept that not everyone agrees, the accountability to say gosh I’m sorry if you read my post that way, it wasn’t intended like that but I appreciate that you’ve interpreted it differently and that’s been off to you and that’s valid too. The mindfulness to grow a little with it. The ability to self reflect and realise we all fuck up. I fuck up, we all fuck up. We can challenge people or say we disagree in gentler ways that check intent whilst still educating about how we read something differently, we can respond to those challenges with grace and love and not from a place of defended anger. I’m agreeing with you, FV I’d like acceptance and understanding but for both sides to something, as both opinions are equally valid. Got it. I guess it would happen if someone felt like you do. Maybe they dont. Or not yet? No point in saying sorry if you dont mean it. There is a lot of defensive anger on here. How about we stop picking this apart? I think it’s a useful discussion. I’m not angry by the way. I said 'there is' not 'you are'. Glad you find it useful. I find it unnecessary. " I understood that. I was simply clarifying. | |||
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" Of course. But the claim that the OP didn't mention mental health in his openong post is ridiculous. He mentioned something intrinsically linked to it and which almost everyone responding has taken as a direct reference to mental health I can't see 'almost everyone'.. ?And there wont be two camps or strong division created on this thread I hope.. just understanding and acceptance everyone choses to deal with their demons differently. And definitely not by comparing things I suffered.. And understanding and acceptance that for some the opening post was a bit dismissive, even when not intended to be, and understanding and acceptance when challenged on that... I think it was addressed in his own way, before you joined the thread. It's an emotional subject. Do you think the intention was genuinly to be disrespectful of people with MH issues, or an attempt at humour? Whether it's good or bad humour I'm not interested in. It's your perception of the intention that interests me. My filters are open if you'd prefer to discuss privately. Thank you. I’ve stayed very clearly in my first post that I didn’t think it was the intent of the OP to be dismissive, that doesn’t negate the fact that for some the post was so. I found the challenge to be abrasive, but I understood it. I found the reaction to it to be really troublesome and the reason I posted. The OP did say he had mental health issues himself. Isn't that an acceptance/admission that people could have been hurt, but that wasn't his intention? Why did the reaction trouble you? (I offered a suggestion why he reacted angrily above, don't know if you saw it) Sorry if this sounds like an episode of mastermind.
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" Of course. But the claim that the OP didn't mention mental health in his openong post is ridiculous. He mentioned something intrinsically linked to it and which almost everyone responding has taken as a direct reference to mental health I can't see 'almost everyone'.. ?And there wont be two camps or strong division created on this thread I hope.. just understanding and acceptance everyone choses to deal with their demons differently. And definitely not by comparing things I suffered.. And understanding and acceptance that for some the opening post was a bit dismissive, even when not intended to be, and understanding and acceptance when challenged on that... Ok. What would you like to happen Estella? You said it before but im not sure. Just using this thread as an example, but not exclusive to..you ask me what I’d like - the maturity to accept that not everyone agrees, the accountability to say gosh I’m sorry if you read my post that way, it wasn’t intended like that but I appreciate that you’ve interpreted it differently and that’s been off to you and that’s valid too. The mindfulness to grow a little with it. The ability to self reflect and realise we all fuck up. I fuck up, we all fuck up. We can challenge people or say we disagree in gentler ways that check intent whilst still educating about how we read something differently, we can respond to those challenges with grace and love and not from a place of defended anger. I’m agreeing with you, FV I’d like acceptance and understanding but for both sides to something, as both opinions are equally valid. This is good. Interesting that you take the same view as me. Both. Key word. I've read all of your posts on the thread. You seem to be focussing on one person's posts though. I think (my view only) both, (that word again), these guys need to talk. I think they have much in common. They could be good for each other. I don't think either of them meant to hurt the other. Manhugs and beers perhaps, yes? " Absolutely. My posts read that way as I countered as also felt only BikeMonkey was being pulled up and I felt there was really problematic commentary from the OP that was being excused and not held to account. | |||
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" Of course. But the claim that the OP didn't mention mental health in his openong post is ridiculous. He mentioned something intrinsically linked to it and which almost everyone responding has taken as a direct reference to mental health I can't see 'almost everyone'.. ?And there wont be two camps or strong division created on this thread I hope.. just understanding and acceptance everyone choses to deal with their demons differently. And definitely not by comparing things I suffered.. And understanding and acceptance that for some the opening post was a bit dismissive, even when not intended to be, and understanding and acceptance when challenged on that... I think it was addressed in his own way, before you joined the thread. It's an emotional subject. Do you think the intention was genuinly to be disrespectful of people with MH issues, or an attempt at humour? Whether it's good or bad humour I'm not interested in. It's your perception of the intention that interests me. My filters are open if you'd prefer to discuss privately. Thank you. I’ve stayed very clearly in my first post that I didn’t think it was the intent of the OP to be dismissive, that doesn’t negate the fact that for some the post was so. I found the challenge to be abrasive, but I understood it. I found the reaction to it to be really troublesome and the reason I posted. The OP did say he had mental health issues himself. Isn't that an acceptance/admission that people could have been hurt, but that wasn't his intention? Why did the reaction trouble you? (I offered a suggestion why he reacted angrily above, don't know if you saw it) Sorry if this sounds like an episode of mastermind.
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" Of course. But the claim that the OP didn't mention mental health in his openong post is ridiculous. He mentioned something intrinsically linked to it and which almost everyone responding has taken as a direct reference to mental health I can't see 'almost everyone'.. ?And there wont be two camps or strong division created on this thread I hope.. just understanding and acceptance everyone choses to deal with their demons differently. And definitely not by comparing things I suffered.. And understanding and acceptance that for some the opening post was a bit dismissive, even when not intended to be, and understanding and acceptance when challenged on that... Ok. What would you like to happen Estella? You said it before but im not sure. Just using this thread as an example, but not exclusive to..you ask me what I’d like - the maturity to accept that not everyone agrees, the accountability to say gosh I’m sorry if you read my post that way, it wasn’t intended like that but I appreciate that you’ve interpreted it differently and that’s been off to you and that’s valid too. The mindfulness to grow a little with it. The ability to self reflect and realise we all fuck up. I fuck up, we all fuck up. We can challenge people or say we disagree in gentler ways that check intent whilst still educating about how we read something differently, we can respond to those challenges with grace and love and not from a place of defended anger. I’m agreeing with you, FV I’d like acceptance and understanding but for both sides to something, as both opinions are equally valid. Got it. I guess it would happen if someone felt like you do. Maybe they dont. Or not yet? No point in saying sorry if you dont mean it. There is a lot of defensive anger on here. How about we stop picking this apart? I think it’s a useful discussion. I’m not angry by the way. I said 'there is' not 'you are'. Glad you find it useful. I find it unnecessary. " You find it unnecessary but are making sure everyone knows your thoughts anyway... | |||
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" Of course. But the claim that the OP didn't mention mental health in his openong post is ridiculous. He mentioned something intrinsically linked to it and which almost everyone responding has taken as a direct reference to mental health I can't see 'almost everyone'.. ?And there wont be two camps or strong division created on this thread I hope.. just understanding and acceptance everyone choses to deal with their demons differently. And definitely not by comparing things I suffered.. And understanding and acceptance that for some the opening post was a bit dismissive, even when not intended to be, and understanding and acceptance when challenged on that... Ok. What would you like to happen Estella? You said it before but im not sure. Just using this thread as an example, but not exclusive to..you ask me what I’d like - the maturity to accept that not everyone agrees, the accountability to say gosh I’m sorry if you read my post that way, it wasn’t intended like that but I appreciate that you’ve interpreted it differently and that’s been off to you and that’s valid too. The mindfulness to grow a little with it. The ability to self reflect and realise we all fuck up. I fuck up, we all fuck up. We can challenge people or say we disagree in gentler ways that check intent whilst still educating about how we read something differently, we can respond to those challenges with grace and love and not from a place of defended anger. I’m agreeing with you, FV I’d like acceptance and understanding but for both sides to something, as both opinions are equally valid. This is good. Interesting that you take the same view as me. Both. Key word. I've read all of your posts on the thread. You seem to be focussing on one person's posts though. I think (my view only) both, (that word again), these guys need to talk. I think they have much in common. They could be good for each other. I don't think either of them meant to hurt the other. Manhugs and beers perhaps, yes? Absolutely. My posts read that way as I countered as also felt only BikeMonkey was being pulled up and I felt there was really problematic commentary from the OP that was being excused and not held to account. " Where on earth was his comment excused and not held to account? I don't see that anywhere. The only person holding him to account is you from what I can see. My view, this is a missundertstanding between two posters, who need to sort it out themselves. It doesn't need the rest of to take sides. It's playground stuff and doesn't need a crowd to gather round and cheer either "side" on. As I've said, one of them need a to reach out. Don't let this be a Mexican stand off with no one wanting to lose face. Grown ups. | |||
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" Of course. But the claim that the OP didn't mention mental health in his openong post is ridiculous. He mentioned something intrinsically linked to it and which almost everyone responding has taken as a direct reference to mental health I can't see 'almost everyone'.. ?And there wont be two camps or strong division created on this thread I hope.. just understanding and acceptance everyone choses to deal with their demons differently. And definitely not by comparing things I suffered.. And understanding and acceptance that for some the opening post was a bit dismissive, even when not intended to be, and understanding and acceptance when challenged on that... Ok. What would you like to happen Estella? You said it before but im not sure. Just using this thread as an example, but not exclusive to..you ask me what I’d like - the maturity to accept that not everyone agrees, the accountability to say gosh I’m sorry if you read my post that way, it wasn’t intended like that but I appreciate that you’ve interpreted it differently and that’s been off to you and that’s valid too. The mindfulness to grow a little with it. The ability to self reflect and realise we all fuck up. I fuck up, we all fuck up. We can challenge people or say we disagree in gentler ways that check intent whilst still educating about how we read something differently, we can respond to those challenges with grace and love and not from a place of defended anger. I’m agreeing with you, FV I’d like acceptance and understanding but for both sides to something, as both opinions are equally valid. This is good. Interesting that you take the same view as me. Both. Key word. I've read all of your posts on the thread. You seem to be focussing on one person's posts though. I think (my view only) both, (that word again), these guys need to talk. I think they have much in common. They could be good for each other. I don't think either of them meant to hurt the other. Manhugs and beers perhaps, yes? Absolutely. My posts read that way as I countered as also felt only BikeMonkey was being pulled up and I felt there was really problematic commentary from the OP that was being excused and not held to account. Where on earth was his comment excused and not held to account? I don't see that anywhere. The only person holding him to account is you from what I can see. My view, this is a missundertstanding between two posters, who need to sort it out themselves. It doesn't need the rest of to take sides. It's playground stuff and doesn't need a crowd to gather round and cheer either "side" on. As I've said, one of them need a to reach out. Don't let this be a Mexican stand off with no one wanting to lose face. Grown ups. " I agree I’m the only person who has challenged the reply to BikeMonkey by the OP. I also think BikeMonkey could have opened less abrasively. I agree it doesn’t need the continued “crowd”, are you aware that you are participating in that as much as I? Sighs. I’m sorry if I’ve offended anyone myself. I do stand by my comments, and simultaneously wish everyone well. | |||
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" Of course. But the claim that the OP didn't mention mental health in his openong post is ridiculous. He mentioned something intrinsically linked to it and which almost everyone responding has taken as a direct reference to mental health I can't see 'almost everyone'.. ?And there wont be two camps or strong division created on this thread I hope.. just understanding and acceptance everyone choses to deal with their demons differently. And definitely not by comparing things I suffered.. And understanding and acceptance that for some the opening post was a bit dismissive, even when not intended to be, and understanding and acceptance when challenged on that... Ok. What would you like to happen Estella? You said it before but im not sure. Just using this thread as an example, but not exclusive to..you ask me what I’d like - the maturity to accept that not everyone agrees, the accountability to say gosh I’m sorry if you read my post that way, it wasn’t intended like that but I appreciate that you’ve interpreted it differently and that’s been off to you and that’s valid too. The mindfulness to grow a little with it. The ability to self reflect and realise we all fuck up. I fuck up, we all fuck up. We can challenge people or say we disagree in gentler ways that check intent whilst still educating about how we read something differently, we can respond to those challenges with grace and love and not from a place of defended anger. I’m agreeing with you, FV I’d like acceptance and understanding but for both sides to something, as both opinions are equally valid. This is good. Interesting that you take the same view as me. Both. Key word. I've read all of your posts on the thread. You seem to be focussing on one person's posts though. I think (my view only) both, (that word again), these guys need to talk. I think they have much in common. They could be good for each other. I don't think either of them meant to hurt the other. Manhugs and beers perhaps, yes? Absolutely. My posts read that way as I countered as also felt only BikeMonkey was being pulled up and I felt there was really problematic commentary from the OP that was being excused and not held to account. Where on earth was his comment excused and not held to account? I don't see that anywhere. The only person holding him to account is you from what I can see. My view, this is a missundertstanding between two posters, who need to sort it out themselves. It doesn't need the rest of to take sides. It's playground stuff and doesn't need a crowd to gather round and cheer either "side" on. As I've said, one of them need a to reach out. Don't let this be a Mexican stand off with no one wanting to lose face. Grown ups. I agree I’m the only person who has challenged the reply to BikeMonkey by the OP. I also think BikeMonkey could have opened less abrasively. I agree it doesn’t need the continued “crowd”, are you aware that you are participating in that as much as I? Sighs. I’m sorry if I’ve offended anyone myself. I do stand by my comments, and simultaneously wish everyone well. " No, we are good.
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" Of course. But the claim that the OP didn't mention mental health in his openong post is ridiculous. He mentioned something intrinsically linked to it and which almost everyone responding has taken as a direct reference to mental health I can't see 'almost everyone'.. ?And there wont be two camps or strong division created on this thread I hope.. just understanding and acceptance everyone choses to deal with their demons differently. And definitely not by comparing things I suffered.. And understanding and acceptance that for some the opening post was a bit dismissive, even when not intended to be, and understanding and acceptance when challenged on that... Ok. What would you like to happen Estella? You said it before but im not sure. Just using this thread as an example, but not exclusive to..you ask me what I’d like - the maturity to accept that not everyone agrees, the accountability to say gosh I’m sorry if you read my post that way, it wasn’t intended like that but I appreciate that you’ve interpreted it differently and that’s been off to you and that’s valid too. The mindfulness to grow a little with it. The ability to self reflect and realise we all fuck up. I fuck up, we all fuck up. We can challenge people or say we disagree in gentler ways that check intent whilst still educating about how we read something differently, we can respond to those challenges with grace and love and not from a place of defended anger. I’m agreeing with you, FV I’d like acceptance and understanding but for both sides to something, as both opinions are equally valid. This is good. Interesting that you take the same view as me. Both. Key word. I've read all of your posts on the thread. You seem to be focussing on one person's posts though. I think (my view only) both, (that word again), these guys need to talk. I think they have much in common. They could be good for each other. I don't think either of them meant to hurt the other. Manhugs and beers perhaps, yes? Absolutely. My posts read that way as I countered as also felt only BikeMonkey was being pulled up and I felt there was really problematic commentary from the OP that was being excused and not held to account. Where on earth was his comment excused and not held to account? I don't see that anywhere. The only person holding him to account is you from what I can see. My view, this is a missundertstanding between two posters, who need to sort it out themselves. It doesn't need the rest of to take sides. It's playground stuff and doesn't need a crowd to gather round and cheer either "side" on. As I've said, one of them need a to reach out. Don't let this be a Mexican stand off with no one wanting to lose face. Grown ups. I agree I’m the only person who has challenged the reply to BikeMonkey by the OP. I also think BikeMonkey could have opened less abrasively. I agree it doesn’t need the continued “crowd”, are you aware that you are participating in that as much as I? Sighs. I’m sorry if I’ve offended anyone myself. I do stand by my comments, and simultaneously wish everyone well. No, we are good.
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" Of course. But the claim that the OP didn't mention mental health in his openong post is ridiculous. He mentioned something intrinsically linked to it and which almost everyone responding has taken as a direct reference to mental health I can't see 'almost everyone'.. ?And there wont be two camps or strong division created on this thread I hope.. just understanding and acceptance everyone choses to deal with their demons differently. And definitely not by comparing things I suffered.. And understanding and acceptance that for some the opening post was a bit dismissive, even when not intended to be, and understanding and acceptance when challenged on that... Ok. What would you like to happen Estella? You said it before but im not sure. Just using this thread as an example, but not exclusive to..you ask me what I’d like - the maturity to accept that not everyone agrees, the accountability to say gosh I’m sorry if you read my post that way, it wasn’t intended like that but I appreciate that you’ve interpreted it differently and that’s been off to you and that’s valid too. The mindfulness to grow a little with it. The ability to self reflect and realise we all fuck up. I fuck up, we all fuck up. We can challenge people or say we disagree in gentler ways that check intent whilst still educating about how we read something differently, we can respond to those challenges with grace and love and not from a place of defended anger. I’m agreeing with you, FV I’d like acceptance and understanding but for both sides to something, as both opinions are equally valid. This is good. Interesting that you take the same view as me. Both. Key word. I've read all of your posts on the thread. You seem to be focussing on one person's posts though. I think (my view only) both, (that word again), these guys need to talk. I think they have much in common. They could be good for each other. I don't think either of them meant to hurt the other. Manhugs and beers perhaps, yes? Absolutely. My posts read that way as I countered as also felt only BikeMonkey was being pulled up and I felt there was really problematic commentary from the OP that was being excused and not held to account. " Something I said in a PM about this thread was that if someone new ti the forums had posted it they'd have been torn apart. I stand by that and this thread epitomizes that as is often the case on here who posts is often more important than what is posted. This was my first post on the thread "This is one of those hilarious comedy threads making light of mental health where anyone that comments on it not being funny is a killjoy snowflake who needs to lighten up and enjoy the bants isn't it?" I don't think it was a particularly harsh or unfair comment. It was also reasonably prophetic. I find the reaction interesting. I find the lack of empathy interesting. I get that it was intended as a joke, I acknowledge that in my first post I just don't see it's funny. But what I find really interesting is that while you have publicly fort my corner for the first time in a decade of forum posting I've received PMs of support from people agreeing with me and saying they didn't want to post for fear of the very reaction I have recieved. Like I say this thread shows that who posts matters more than what is posted and that is shown not just in the response to the OP but also in the almost inevitable response to me | |||
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" Of course. But the claim that the OP didn't mention mental health in his openong post is ridiculous. He mentioned something intrinsically linked to it and which almost everyone responding has taken as a direct reference to mental health I can't see 'almost everyone'.. ?And there wont be two camps or strong division created on this thread I hope.. just understanding and acceptance everyone choses to deal with their demons differently. And definitely not by comparing things I suffered.. And understanding and acceptance that for some the opening post was a bit dismissive, even when not intended to be, and understanding and acceptance when challenged on that... Ok. What would you like to happen Estella? You said it before but im not sure. Just using this thread as an example, but not exclusive to..you ask me what I’d like - the maturity to accept that not everyone agrees, the accountability to say gosh I’m sorry if you read my post that way, it wasn’t intended like that but I appreciate that you’ve interpreted it differently and that’s been off to you and that’s valid too. The mindfulness to grow a little with it. The ability to self reflect and realise we all fuck up. I fuck up, we all fuck up. We can challenge people or say we disagree in gentler ways that check intent whilst still educating about how we read something differently, we can respond to those challenges with grace and love and not from a place of defended anger. I’m agreeing with you, FV I’d like acceptance and understanding but for both sides to something, as both opinions are equally valid. This is good. Interesting that you take the same view as me. Both. Key word. I've read all of your posts on the thread. You seem to be focussing on one person's posts though. I think (my view only) both, (that word again), these guys need to talk. I think they have much in common. They could be good for each other. I don't think either of them meant to hurt the other. Manhugs and beers perhaps, yes? Absolutely. My posts read that way as I countered as also felt only BikeMonkey was being pulled up and I felt there was really problematic commentary from the OP that was being excused and not held to account. Something I said in a PM about this thread was that if someone new ti the forums had posted it they'd have been torn apart. I stand by that and this thread epitomizes that as is often the case on here who posts is often more important than what is posted. This was my first post on the thread "This is one of those hilarious comedy threads making light of mental health where anyone that comments on it not being funny is a killjoy snowflake who needs to lighten up and enjoy the bants isn't it?" I don't think it was a particularly harsh or unfair comment. It was also reasonably prophetic. I find the reaction interesting. I find the lack of empathy interesting. I get that it was intended as a joke, I acknowledge that in my first post I just don't see it's funny. But what I find really interesting is that while you have publicly fort my corner for the first time in a decade of forum posting I've received PMs of support from people agreeing with me and saying they didn't want to post for fear of the very reaction I have recieved. Like I say this thread shows that who posts matters more than what is posted and that is shown not just in the response to the OP but also in the almost inevitable response to me" I have to say I do agree with this. | |||
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" Of course. But the claim that the OP didn't mention mental health in his openong post is ridiculous. He mentioned something intrinsically linked to it and which almost everyone responding has taken as a direct reference to mental health I can't see 'almost everyone'.. ?And there wont be two camps or strong division created on this thread I hope.. just understanding and acceptance everyone choses to deal with their demons differently. And definitely not by comparing things I suffered.. And understanding and acceptance that for some the opening post was a bit dismissive, even when not intended to be, and understanding and acceptance when challenged on that... Ok. What would you like to happen Estella? You said it before but im not sure. Just using this thread as an example, but not exclusive to..you ask me what I’d like - the maturity to accept that not everyone agrees, the accountability to say gosh I’m sorry if you read my post that way, it wasn’t intended like that but I appreciate that you’ve interpreted it differently and that’s been off to you and that’s valid too. The mindfulness to grow a little with it. The ability to self reflect and realise we all fuck up. I fuck up, we all fuck up. We can challenge people or say we disagree in gentler ways that check intent whilst still educating about how we read something differently, we can respond to those challenges with grace and love and not from a place of defended anger. I’m agreeing with you, FV I’d like acceptance and understanding but for both sides to something, as both opinions are equally valid. This is good. Interesting that you take the same view as me. Both. Key word. I've read all of your posts on the thread. You seem to be focussing on one person's posts though. I think (my view only) both, (that word again), these guys need to talk. I think they have much in common. They could be good for each other. I don't think either of them meant to hurt the other. Manhugs and beers perhaps, yes? Absolutely. My posts read that way as I countered as also felt only BikeMonkey was being pulled up and I felt there was really problematic commentary from the OP that was being excused and not held to account. Something I said in a PM about this thread was that if someone new ti the forums had posted it they'd have been torn apart. I stand by that and this thread epitomizes that as is often the case on here who posts is often more important than what is posted. This was my first post on the thread "This is one of those hilarious comedy threads making light of mental health where anyone that comments on it not being funny is a killjoy snowflake who needs to lighten up and enjoy the bants isn't it?" I don't think it was a particularly harsh or unfair comment. It was also reasonably prophetic. I find the reaction interesting. I find the lack of empathy interesting. I get that it was intended as a joke, I acknowledge that in my first post I just don't see it's funny. But what I find really interesting is that while you have publicly fort my corner for the first time in a decade of forum posting I've received PMs of support from people agreeing with me and saying they didn't want to post for fear of the very reaction I have recieved. Like I say this thread shows that who posts matters more than what is posted and that is shown not just in the response to the OP but also in the almost inevitable response to me" My last post, I really MUST attend to my man, one of you has to reach out. I still say it's a miss understanding and you both over reacted. Time to manhug and move forward. | |||
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"Well done. You couldn't be further from the truth if you tried. My own challenges with mental health are well documented in these very forums. If I, as a sufferer can't smile about my own illness, who can. It's my illness, I'll own it ta. I don't need your input. And indeed this thread. I personally don't need your amateur psycho analysis or prurient judgement. Congratulations on being one of those people, rightiously offended on behalf of people who aren't. Here's a fiver, get yourself a fresh tin of Brasso. " And for comparison to my first post here's the OPs response to me. Which as estrella has mentioned only she has challenged. I stand by everything I've posted in this thread. I dont think anything i posted warranted this response... | |||
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"Bloody hell! Anyone can see this isn’t a serious post, or maybe not! Anyone who knows this man would know he wouldn’t intentionally post something to hurt people. Fuck me no wonder people hardly post anymore. Unbelievable Jeff " | |||
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"Bloody hell! Anyone can see this isn’t a serious post, or maybe not! Anyone who knows this man would know he wouldn’t intentionally post something to hurt people. Fuck me no wonder people hardly post anymore. Unbelievable Jeff "The intent of the original OP is not the question and neither I nor BikeMonkey have ever said we thought the intent of it was to intentionally hurt people, I believe that’s incredibly clear in all posts. I’ve met OP, he’s a nice enough guy, but I also think he didn’t do himself any favours in the reply to BikeMonkey - was that reply intended to hurt? | |||
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"Well done. You couldn't be further from the truth if you tried. My own challenges with mental health are well documented in these very forums. If I, as a sufferer can't smile about my own illness, who can. It's my illness, I'll own it ta. I don't need your input. And indeed this thread. I personally don't need your amateur psycho analysis or prurient judgement. Congratulations on being one of those people, rightiously offended on behalf of people who aren't. Here's a fiver, get yourself a fresh tin of Brasso. And for comparison to my first post here's the OPs response to me. Which as estrella has mentioned only she has challenged. I stand by everything I've posted in this thread. I dont think anything i posted warranted this response..." Couple of thoughts; You said earlier you've had PMs to support you. What's the betting the OP has too? You said earlier it's not about point scoring. This post looks a lot like it to me. You're really that upset, PM him and tell him. Don't keep broadcasting your dirty laundry to the world. You were upset at his post? Want to bet he was upset at yours? Two nerves struck, one each. Neither of you are right. Neither of you are wrong. | |||
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Well said Nora "It’s like BikeMonkey said the actual content of what anyone says seems irrelevant. No one has questioned the *intent* of the post, as I’ve already answered above, so to be resurrecting a thread to support that seems ... interesting. | |||
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"Being tired and stressed can cause you problems. It can lead to feeling tired, exhausted, lacking in energy. But why to you constantly feel this way? According to ground-breaking new research, it could be that you're simply a moany cunt. " My cunt has been a moany minge lately. I knew the lack of sex was making me tired. | |||
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"Bloody hell! Anyone can see this isn’t a serious post, or maybe not! Anyone who knows this man would know he wouldn’t intentionally post something to hurt people. Fuck me no wonder people hardly post anymore. Unbelievable Jeff
Well said Nora
It’s like BikeMonkey said the actual content of what anyone says seems irrelevant. No one has questioned the *intent* of the post, as I’ve already answered above, so to be resurrecting a thread to support that seems ... interesting. "I hadn't noticed that I'd resurrected it. But after reading another thread which made me think about supporting those that you feel have been given a 'hard' time I came accross this and echoed that which I wish I had previously expressed. | |||
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"Being tired and stressed can cause you problems. It can lead to feeling tired, exhausted, lacking in energy. But why to you constantly feel this way? According to ground-breaking new research, it could be that you're simply a moany cunt. Ok I have only browsed some of the responses, I thought this was a swingers site with people who had the same interests. I support you as I understand. If anyone has any issue with your comments they should be on a porn site or Dear Deirdre. There is nothing worse than a THRUSH .....irritating cunt xxx " | |||
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"Bloody hell! Anyone can see this isn’t a serious post, or maybe not! Anyone who knows this man would know he wouldn’t intentionally post something to hurt people. Fuck me no wonder people hardly post anymore. Unbelievable Jeff
Well said Nora
It’s like BikeMonkey said the actual content of what anyone says seems irrelevant. No one has questioned the *intent* of the post, as I’ve already answered above, so to be resurrecting a thread to support that seems ... interesting.
I hadn't noticed that I'd resurrected it. But after reading another thread which made me think about supporting those that you feel have been given a 'hard' time I came accross this and echoed that which I wish I had previously expressed."That’s fair enough, I understand that sentiment fully. It’s actually the reason I’ve been so reticent on this thread myself, as feel strongly that there’s been defending of bad behaviour exclusively to one person and complete misunderstanding of the points being raised, and that troubles me. Apologies for being short. X | |||
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Well said Nora
It’s like BikeMonkey said the actual content of what anyone says seems irrelevant. No one has questioned the *intent* of the post, as I’ve already answered above, so to be resurrecting a thread to support that seems ... interesting.
I hadn't noticed that I'd resurrected it. But after reading another thread which made me think about supporting those that you feel have been given a 'hard' time I came accross this and echoed that which I wish I had previously expressed."lighter note to my post on this thread anabelle its fit a flip | |||
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"Bloody hell! Anyone can see this isn’t a serious post, or maybe not! Anyone who knows this man would know he wouldn’t intentionally post something to hurt people. Fuck me no wonder people hardly post anymore. Unbelievable Jeff
Well said Nora
It’s like BikeMonkey said the actual content of what anyone says seems irrelevant. No one has questioned the *intent* of the post, as I’ve already answered above, so to be resurrecting a thread to support that seems ... interesting.
I hadn't noticed that I'd resurrected it. But after reading another thread which made me think about supporting those that you feel have been given a 'hard' time I came accross this and echoed that which I wish I had previously expressed.
That’s fair enough, I understand that sentiment fully. It’s actually the reason I’ve been so reticent on this thread myself, as feel strongly that there’s been defending of bad behaviour exclusively to one person and complete misunderstanding of the points being raised, and that troubles me. Apologies for being short. X"I was troubled too. Thanks Estelle, I really appreciate that x | |||
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"Bloody hell! Anyone can see this isn’t a serious post, or maybe not! Anyone who knows this man would know he wouldn’t intentionally post something to hurt people. Fuck me no wonder people hardly post anymore. Unbelievable Jeff
Well said Nora
It’s like BikeMonkey said the actual content of what anyone says seems irrelevant. No one has questioned the *intent* of the post, as I’ve already answered above, so to be resurrecting a thread to support that seems ... interesting.
I hadn't noticed that I'd resurrected it. But after reading another thread which made me think about supporting those that you feel have been given a 'hard' time I came accross this and echoed that which I wish I had previously expressed.
That’s fair enough, I understand that sentiment fully. It’s actually the reason I’ve been so reticent on this thread myself, as feel strongly that there’s been defending of bad behaviour exclusively to one person and complete misunderstanding of the points being raised, and that troubles me. Apologies for being short. X
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"Bloody hell! Anyone can see this isn’t a serious post, or maybe not! Anyone who knows this man would know he wouldn’t intentionally post something to hurt people. Fuck me no wonder people hardly post anymore. Unbelievable Jeff
Well said Nora
It’s like BikeMonkey said the actual content of what anyone says seems irrelevant. No one has questioned the *intent* of the post, as I’ve already answered above, so to be resurrecting a thread to support that seems ... interesting.
I hadn't noticed that I'd resurrected it. But after reading another thread which made me think about supporting those that you feel have been given a 'hard' time I came accross this and echoed that which I wish I had previously expressed.
That’s fair enough, I understand that sentiment fully. It’s actually the reason I’ve been so reticent on this thread myself, as feel strongly that there’s been defending of bad behaviour exclusively to one person and complete misunderstanding of the points being raised, and that troubles me. Apologies for being short. X
I was troubled too. Thanks Estelle, I really appreciate that x
"I don't see anyone defending bad behaviour. We get it, you're troubled. We got it the first time you said it. Why you have to repeat it in virtually every post is mystifying. Why? Are you trying to get a rise out of the OP, grying to wind hum up, hoping to get some sort of an angry one maybe? The way you appear to be trying to steer this thread is blatantly obvious. Two posters made sharp comments to one another. Neither of them mention you, neither of them directed their posts to you. From what I see, this is between them and them alone. And it's for them to sort out between themselves, as I've suggested many times. Your continued chipping away at the OP is on the cusp of bullying. Forum advice is if a thread or poster annoys you, to step away from the keyboard. It's great advice, I'm taking it. | |||
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"Bloody hell! Anyone can see this isn’t a serious post, or maybe not! Anyone who knows this man would know he wouldn’t intentionally post something to hurt people. Fuck me no wonder people hardly post anymore. Unbelievable Jeff
Well said Nora
It’s like BikeMonkey said the actual content of what anyone says seems irrelevant. No one has questioned the *intent* of the post, as I’ve already answered above, so to be resurrecting a thread to support that seems ... interesting.
I hadn't noticed that I'd resurrected it. But after reading another thread which made me think about supporting those that you feel have been given a 'hard' time I came accross this and echoed that which I wish I had previously expressed.
That’s fair enough, I understand that sentiment fully. It’s actually the reason I’ve been so reticent on this thread myself, as feel strongly that there’s been defending of bad behaviour exclusively to one person and complete misunderstanding of the points being raised, and that troubles me. Apologies for being short. X
I was troubled too. Thanks Estelle, I really appreciate that x
I don't see anyone defending bad behaviour.
We get it, you're troubled. We got it the first time you said it. Why you have to repeat it in virtually every post is mystifying.
Why?
Are you trying to get a rise out of the OP, grying to wind hum up, hoping to get some sort of an angry one maybe?
The way you appear to be trying to steer this thread is blatantly obvious.
Two posters made sharp comments to one another.
Neither of them mention you, neither of them directed their posts to you.
From what I see, this is between them and them alone.
And it's for them to sort out between themselves, as I've suggested many times.
Your continued chipping away at the OP is on the cusp of bullying.
Forum advice is if a thread or poster annoys you, to step away from the keyboard.
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"Still a bit ranty here from time to time then.... Not sure why I came back after reading this Where is the love... Holy Cow! It’s nice to see you back "Thank you
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