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"I guess it's only inappropriate if you feel uncomfortable in the presence of bi men." This. If you can't handle seeing guy on guy action without your discomfort making others uncomfortable, don't go. (I'm not saying you would be uncomfortable, but if you were) | |||
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"Ok, so a little context to this one. I’ve been invited to attend a bi night at a club with a girl I’ve been chatting too. I’m really not bothered about it being a bi night but can’t help feeling that it’s a little inappropriate for me to attend?Would appreciate people’s thoughts. Especially if you’ve attend said evenings and have first hand experience. Thanks, James" I'm kind of with you on this, I've been invited once, and because I'm not fab straight, I felt as though I would be there on a false pretence re the rest of the party goers. Likewise I've never attended a BBC party because I don't hold a TV licence I hope that's come out right | |||
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"There are many bi nights that don't welcome straight guys as it can cause issue..... Disapproving looks for starters and an atmosphere that leaves it uncomfortable in which to play. I know of one night where a straight guy tried starting a fight when he was touched by another male. Admittedly said male shouldn't have touched without permission but it blew up wildly according to the many versions I heard. This was not in SX I will add. " I've been to a few bi nights where straight guys have attended and its not an issue in general, however I have been in situations where a guy has made out they're bi in order to fuck my (then) partner. Not a pleasant situation. Attending is fine, playing is a thorny issue unless it's with the person you're with I'd say. | |||
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"Bi events are exactly that. I know a lot of clubs are quite careful that only bi people attend (as best as they are able to anyway). Admittedly no one should ever touch anyone without permission but there will be a presumption that you are bi and it could be awkward if someone makes a move for you. Personally I always feel awkward if straight people are at bi events. " But what if you were bi and just didn't fancy the person making the move ... isn't that the same thing? | |||
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"Why is it a problem? You don't have to do anything, same as any club you visit any night ... just because you're there doesn't mean you must have sex " I just felt it might be a little disingenuous. That was all really. | |||
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"Bi events are exactly that. I know a lot of clubs are quite careful that only bi people attend (as best as they are able to anyway). Admittedly no one should ever touch anyone without permission but there will be a presumption that you are bi and it could be awkward if someone makes a move for you. Personally I always feel awkward if straight people are at bi events. But what if you were bi and just didn't fancy the person making the move ... isn't that the same thing?" Well that applies in any scenario, bi or not. I'm mainly talking about the presumption of being bi. | |||
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"I guess it's only inappropriate if you feel uncomfortable in the presence of bi men. This. If you can't handle seeing guy on guy action without your discomfort making others uncomfortable, don't go. (I'm not saying you would be uncomfortable, but if you were) " No I wouldn’t be uncomfortable. I have a number of gay friends including one of my best mates so that really wasn’t where I was coming from. | |||
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"Bi events are exactly that. I know a lot of clubs are quite careful that only bi people attend (as best as they are able to anyway). Admittedly no one should ever touch anyone without permission but there will be a presumption that you are bi and it could be awkward if someone makes a move for you. Personally I always feel awkward if straight people are at bi events. But what if you were bi and just didn't fancy the person making the move ... isn't that the same thing? Well that applies in any scenario, bi or not. I'm mainly talking about the presumption of being bi. " I do understand what you mean ... just devil's advocate | |||
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"There are many bi nights that don't welcome straight guys as it can cause issue..... Disapproving looks for starters and an atmosphere that leaves it uncomfortable in which to play. I know of one night where a straight guy tried starting a fight when he was touched by another male. Admittedly said male shouldn't have touched without permission but it blew up wildly according to the many versions I heard. This was not in SX I will add. " Thanks for the feedback. I’m more and more on the fence with this. I wouldn’t have been that guy that lost his shit lol. They would get a curt no thanks at worse and only if I couldn’t think of a more witty/funny response. I’ve had similar incidents when in regular gay clubs and it hasn’t been a big deal. The disapproving looks and bad atmosphere is more getting to the point of why I asked the question. As I think I have already explained it really wouldn’t be a problem for me but I wouldn’t want to be the cause of any hostility. My gut feeling at the moment is that it would be ok and any animosity or bad feeling would be from a small minority. | |||
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"Personally I always feel awkward if straight people are at bi events. " May have been different as we were a couple and I stayed out of the play area except when specifically invited by my wife. Plus we have not been in a uk club for quite a few years now, so things may have changed. But I never felt unwelcome. | |||
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"There are many bi nights that don't welcome straight guys as it can cause issue..... Disapproving looks for starters and an atmosphere that leaves it uncomfortable in which to play. I know of one night where a straight guy tried starting a fight when he was touched by another male. Admittedly said male shouldn't have touched without permission but it blew up wildly according to the many versions I heard. This was not in SX I will add. Thanks for the feedback. I’m more and more on the fence with this. I wouldn’t have been that guy that lost his shit lol. They would get a curt no thanks at worse and only if I couldn’t think of a more witty/funny response. I’ve had similar incidents when in regular gay clubs and it hasn’t been a big deal. The disapproving looks and bad atmosphere is more getting to the point of why I asked the question. As I think I have already explained it really wouldn’t be a problem for me but I wouldn’t want to be the cause of any hostility. My gut feeling at the moment is that it would be ok and any animosity or bad feeling would be from a small minority." It's not about if you're okay with guy on guy play or if you're respectful to others sexuality. As a bisexual female I'd be severely disappointed attending a bisexual night with my partner who is bisexual to find straight males are welcome. Same for straight women. It's a bisexual night for a reason. You're just diluting it for those who are there to play. It's one more straight male taking up a spot of a bisexual male that we could have played with. It's also a waste of our money if clubs are letting straight males in when we are under the impression bisexual nights are exclusively for bisexuals. (Sorry for the unpopular opinion) | |||
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"There are many bi nights that don't welcome straight guys as it can cause issue..... Disapproving looks for starters and an atmosphere that leaves it uncomfortable in which to play. I know of one night where a straight guy tried starting a fight when he was touched by another male. Admittedly said male shouldn't have touched without permission but it blew up wildly according to the many versions I heard. This was not in SX I will add. Thanks for the feedback. I’m more and more on the fence with this. I wouldn’t have been that guy that lost his shit lol. They would get a curt no thanks at worse and only if I couldn’t think of a more witty/funny response. I’ve had similar incidents when in regular gay clubs and it hasn’t been a big deal. The disapproving looks and bad atmosphere is more getting to the point of why I asked the question. As I think I have already explained it really wouldn’t be a problem for me but I wouldn’t want to be the cause of any hostility. My gut feeling at the moment is that it would be ok and any animosity or bad feeling would be from a small minority. It's not about if you're okay with guy on guy play or if you're respectful to others sexuality. As a bisexual female I'd be severely disappointed attending a bisexual night with my partner who is bisexual to find straight males are welcome. Same for straight women. It's a bisexual night for a reason. You're just diluting it for those who are there to play. It's one more straight male taking up a spot of a bisexual male that we could have played with. It's also a waste of our money if clubs are letting straight males in when we are under the impression bisexual nights are exclusively for bisexuals. (Sorry for the unpopular opinion) " That's my sentiment exactly! | |||
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"I’ve had similar incidents when in regular gay clubs and it hasn’t been a big deal. " Why are you worrying about going to a bi night when you already go to gay clubs? | |||
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"There are many bi nights that don't welcome straight guys as it can cause issue..... Disapproving looks for starters and an atmosphere that leaves it uncomfortable in which to play. I know of one night where a straight guy tried starting a fight when he was touched by another male. Admittedly said male shouldn't have touched without permission but it blew up wildly according to the many versions I heard. This was not in SX I will add. Thanks for the feedback. I’m more and more on the fence with this. I wouldn’t have been that guy that lost his shit lol. They would get a curt no thanks at worse and only if I couldn’t think of a more witty/funny response. I’ve had similar incidents when in regular gay clubs and it hasn’t been a big deal. The disapproving looks and bad atmosphere is more getting to the point of why I asked the question. As I think I have already explained it really wouldn’t be a problem for me but I wouldn’t want to be the cause of any hostility. My gut feeling at the moment is that it would be ok and any animosity or bad feeling would be from a small minority. It's not about if you're okay with guy on guy play or if you're respectful to others sexuality. As a bisexual female I'd be severely disappointed attending a bisexual night with my partner who is bisexual to find straight males are welcome. Same for straight women. It's a bisexual night for a reason. You're just diluting it for those who are there to play. It's one more straight male taking up a spot of a bisexual male that we could have played with. It's also a waste of our money if clubs are letting straight males in when we are under the impression bisexual nights are exclusively for bisexuals. (Sorry for the unpopular opinion) " I appreciate your honesty even if I don’t agree with everything you’ve said. I can see your point though which is why I asked the question in the first place so thanks. I do feel it’s a little sad that this is the case. It opens up a can of worms for me. I have met with bi couples before where the guys have been happy to play straight. I know many of them attend straight nights. I wonder how they would feel about that kind of feeling the other way. I feel like nobody cares if there are bi guys/girls at a regular party night. But your saying a straight guy accompanying a bi girl to a bi night is a no. I think there are a lot of couples out there where one half of the couple is bi and the other half is straight that would think that very harsh. I do totally get your point but I think your view is extreme and extremely un inclusive. | |||
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"I’ve had similar incidents when in regular gay clubs and it hasn’t been a big deal. Why are you worrying about going to a bi night when you already go to gay clubs?" I spent half my 20’s going to gay night clubs. They were more fun, better music and the girls in our friends group found them far more fun, relaxing and inviting than going to normal clubs. I’m talking about normal clubs not sex clubs in this instance. Sorry if I wasn’t clear. | |||
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"Op if you’re above a 7.5/10 it would be unfair for you to tease the bi guys " Lol, that’s funny. | |||
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"There are many bi nights that don't welcome straight guys as it can cause issue..... Disapproving looks for starters and an atmosphere that leaves it uncomfortable in which to play. I know of one night where a straight guy tried starting a fight when he was touched by another male. Admittedly said male shouldn't have touched without permission but it blew up wildly according to the many versions I heard. This was not in SX I will add. Thanks for the feedback. I’m more and more on the fence with this. I wouldn’t have been that guy that lost his shit lol. They would get a curt no thanks at worse and only if I couldn’t think of a more witty/funny response. I’ve had similar incidents when in regular gay clubs and it hasn’t been a big deal. The disapproving looks and bad atmosphere is more getting to the point of why I asked the question. As I think I have already explained it really wouldn’t be a problem for me but I wouldn’t want to be the cause of any hostility. My gut feeling at the moment is that it would be ok and any animosity or bad feeling would be from a small minority. It's not about if you're okay with guy on guy play or if you're respectful to others sexuality. As a bisexual female I'd be severely disappointed attending a bisexual night with my partner who is bisexual to find straight males are welcome. Same for straight women. It's a bisexual night for a reason. You're just diluting it for those who are there to play. It's one more straight male taking up a spot of a bisexual male that we could have played with. It's also a waste of our money if clubs are letting straight males in when we are under the impression bisexual nights are exclusively for bisexuals. (Sorry for the unpopular opinion) I appreciate your honesty even if I don’t agree with everything you’ve said. I can see your point though which is why I asked the question in the first place so thanks. I do feel it’s a little sad that this is the case. It opens up a can of worms for me. I have met with bi couples before where the guys have been happy to play straight. I know many of them attend straight nights. I wonder how they would feel about that kind of feeling the other way. I feel like nobody cares if there are bi guys/girls at a regular party night. But your saying a straight guy accompanying a bi girl to a bi night is a no. I think there are a lot of couples out there where one half of the couple is bi and the other half is straight that would think that very harsh. I do totally get your point but I think your view is extreme and extremely un inclusive. " Fair enough, sometimes bi couples do play straight but surely they would attend an often cheaper to attend normal night and play straight there. The whole point of a bi night is to be exclusive, exclusively bisexual people, we often wonder if straight people appreciate how hard it is for bisexual couples to find genuine people to play with and it's a little disappointing to spend time and money to find out you're essentially at a normal event you otherwise wouldn't have attended. | |||
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"There are many bi nights that don't welcome straight guys as it can cause issue..... Disapproving looks for starters and an atmosphere that leaves it uncomfortable in which to play. I know of one night where a straight guy tried starting a fight when he was touched by another male. Admittedly said male shouldn't have touched without permission but it blew up wildly according to the many versions I heard. This was not in SX I will add. Thanks for the feedback. I’m more and more on the fence with this. I wouldn’t have been that guy that lost his shit lol. They would get a curt no thanks at worse and only if I couldn’t think of a more witty/funny response. I’ve had similar incidents when in regular gay clubs and it hasn’t been a big deal. The disapproving looks and bad atmosphere is more getting to the point of why I asked the question. As I think I have already explained it really wouldn’t be a problem for me but I wouldn’t want to be the cause of any hostility. My gut feeling at the moment is that it would be ok and any animosity or bad feeling would be from a small minority. It's not about if you're okay with guy on guy play or if you're respectful to others sexuality. As a bisexual female I'd be severely disappointed attending a bisexual night with my partner who is bisexual to find straight males are welcome. Same for straight women. It's a bisexual night for a reason. You're just diluting it for those who are there to play. It's one more straight male taking up a spot of a bisexual male that we could have played with. It's also a waste of our money if clubs are letting straight males in when we are under the impression bisexual nights are exclusively for bisexuals. (Sorry for the unpopular opinion) I appreciate your honesty even if I don’t agree with everything you’ve said. I can see your point though which is why I asked the question in the first place so thanks. I do feel it’s a little sad that this is the case. It opens up a can of worms for me. I have met with bi couples before where the guys have been happy to play straight. I know many of them attend straight nights. I wonder how they would feel about that kind of feeling the other way. I feel like nobody cares if there are bi guys/girls at a regular party night. But your saying a straight guy accompanying a bi girl to a bi night is a no. I think there are a lot of couples out there where one half of the couple is bi and the other half is straight that would think that very harsh. I do totally get your point but I think your view is extreme and extremely un inclusive. " I've personally never heard of straight nights at clubs. I kind of agree that if too many straight people attend a bi night, it would ruin the point of the event. It does kind of feel a bit like for example, attending a TV night when you're not into TVs. Not technically wrong but a bit odd. I agree with how an earlier poster approached it when attending with his bi wife. He was attending just to accompany her which I can understand may have made her feel more comfortable but he stayed out of the play areas. Seems a sensible approach to me. Surely the easiest solution is just to attend another night with her that is more suited to you both? If you're really determined to attend this one is suggest contacting the club first for their take on it. You may find they don't allow it and you don't want to find that out only when you arrive. | |||
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"There are many bi nights that don't welcome straight guys as it can cause issue..... Disapproving looks for starters and an atmosphere that leaves it uncomfortable in which to play. I know of one night where a straight guy tried starting a fight when he was touched by another male. Admittedly said male shouldn't have touched without permission but it blew up wildly according to the many versions I heard. This was not in SX I will add. Thanks for the feedback. I’m more and more on the fence with this. I wouldn’t have been that guy that lost his shit lol. They would get a curt no thanks at worse and only if I couldn’t think of a more witty/funny response. I’ve had similar incidents when in regular gay clubs and it hasn’t been a big deal. The disapproving looks and bad atmosphere is more getting to the point of why I asked the question. As I think I have already explained it really wouldn’t be a problem for me but I wouldn’t want to be the cause of any hostility. My gut feeling at the moment is that it would be ok and any animosity or bad feeling would be from a small minority. It's not about if you're okay with guy on guy play or if you're respectful to others sexuality. As a bisexual female I'd be severely disappointed attending a bisexual night with my partner who is bisexual to find straight males are welcome. Same for straight women. It's a bisexual night for a reason. You're just diluting it for those who are there to play. It's one more straight male taking up a spot of a bisexual male that we could have played with. It's also a waste of our money if clubs are letting straight males in when we are under the impression bisexual nights are exclusively for bisexuals. (Sorry for the unpopular opinion) I appreciate your honesty even if I don’t agree with everything you’ve said. I can see your point though which is why I asked the question in the first place so thanks. I do feel it’s a little sad that this is the case. It opens up a can of worms for me. I have met with bi couples before where the guys have been happy to play straight. I know many of them attend straight nights. I wonder how they would feel about that kind of feeling the other way. I feel like nobody cares if there are bi guys/girls at a regular party night. But your saying a straight guy accompanying a bi girl to a bi night is a no. I think there are a lot of couples out there where one half of the couple is bi and the other half is straight that would think that very harsh. I do totally get your point but I think your view is extreme and extremely un inclusive. I've personally never heard of straight nights at clubs. I kind of agree that if too many straight people attend a bi night, it would ruin the point of the event. It does kind of feel a bit like for example, attending a TV night when you're not into TVs. Not technically wrong but a bit odd. I agree with how an earlier poster approached it when attending with his bi wife. He was attending just to accompany her which I can understand may have made her feel more comfortable but he stayed out of the play areas. Seems a sensible approach to me. Surely the easiest solution is just to attend another night with her that is more suited to you both? If you're really determined to attend this one is suggest contacting the club first for their take on it. You may find they don't allow it and you don't want to find that out only when you arrive." Yes some valid points made. I’ve already made the decision not to attend. | |||
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"I’ve had similar incidents when in regular gay clubs and it hasn’t been a big deal. Why are you worrying about going to a bi night when you already go to gay clubs? I spent half my 20’s going to gay night clubs. They were more fun, better music and the girls in our friends group found them far more fun, relaxing and inviting than going to normal clubs. I’m talking about normal clubs not sex clubs in this instance. Sorry if I wasn’t clear. " changing subject of thread slightly but I have to agree with this. Many gay bars are far friendlier than most "straight" bars, much better atmosphere and women generally can enjoy themselves without the pressure of men pestering them. Liverpool and Manchester have some great bars, Blackpool too, and I quite often see hen parties in them. | |||
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"Ok, so a little context to this one. I’ve been invited to attend a bi night at a club with a girl I’ve been chatting too. I’m really not bothered about it being a bi night but can’t help feeling that it’s a little inappropriate for me to attend?Would appreciate people’s thoughts. Especially if you’ve attend said evenings and have first hand experience. Thanks, James" If she knows you're straight why has she invited you to a bi night? | |||
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"There are many bi nights that don't welcome straight guys as it can cause issue..... Disapproving looks for starters and an atmosphere that leaves it uncomfortable in which to play. I know of one night where a straight guy tried starting a fight when he was touched by another male. Admittedly said male shouldn't have touched without permission but it blew up wildly according to the many versions I heard. This was not in SX I will add. Thanks for the feedback. I’m more and more on the fence with this. I wouldn’t have been that guy that lost his shit lol. They would get a curt no thanks at worse and only if I couldn’t think of a more witty/funny response. I’ve had similar incidents when in regular gay clubs and it hasn’t been a big deal. The disapproving looks and bad atmosphere is more getting to the point of why I asked the question. As I think I have already explained it really wouldn’t be a problem for me but I wouldn’t want to be the cause of any hostility. My gut feeling at the moment is that it would be ok and any animosity or bad feeling would be from a small minority. It's not about if you're okay with guy on guy play or if you're respectful to others sexuality. As a bisexual female I'd be severely disappointed attending a bisexual night with my partner who is bisexual to find straight males are welcome. Same for straight women. It's a bisexual night for a reason. You're just diluting it for those who are there to play. It's one more straight male taking up a spot of a bisexual male that we could have played with. It's also a waste of our money if clubs are letting straight males in when we are under the impression bisexual nights are exclusively for bisexuals. (Sorry for the unpopular opinion) " Diluting it how? Just because they are all bi doesn't guarantee a fuck. | |||
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"It's also a waste of our money if clubs are letting straight males in when we are under the impression bisexual nights are exclusively for bisexuals. (Sorry for the unpopular opinion) " Following that logic do we need to ban non straight people from swingers clubs not bi nights? If one partner of a couple is bi, the other not bi, do they have to attend alone on the appropriate night? Things could get complex | |||
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"It's also a waste of our money if clubs are letting straight males in when we are under the impression bisexual nights are exclusively for bisexuals. (Sorry for the unpopular opinion) Following that logic do we need to ban non straight people from swingers clubs not bi nights? If one partner of a couple is bi, the other not bi, do they have to attend alone on the appropriate night? Things could get complex " When it comes to couples in genuine relationships or married then we can understand the straight half attending but sitting out of any play as their partner is wanting to get their bisexual wants out in a safe environment. We'd have no issues with that. As for banning bisexual people from normal nights I suppose you could do by this logic. But the club's are going to severely suffer as majority of couples and single women are bisexual. It's men who are generally uncomfortable with their sexuality and may prefer the discretion of a bisexual event. Also let's just be frank about the situation, no matter how 'Okay' straight men are with bisexual and gay men, we have never met one that wouldn't be able to help their reaction if two men started having sex next to them. On a bi night where it's supposed to be a safe environment for everybody it's definitely going to be a mood ruiner. | |||
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"There are many bi nights that don't welcome straight guys as it can cause issue..... Disapproving looks for starters and an atmosphere that leaves it uncomfortable in which to play. I know of one night where a straight guy tried starting a fight when he was touched by another male. Admittedly said male shouldn't have touched without permission but it blew up wildly according to the many versions I heard. This was not in SX I will add. Thanks for the feedback. I’m more and more on the fence with this. I wouldn’t have been that guy that lost his shit lol. They would get a curt no thanks at worse and only if I couldn’t think of a more witty/funny response. I’ve had similar incidents when in regular gay clubs and it hasn’t been a big deal. The disapproving looks and bad atmosphere is more getting to the point of why I asked the question. As I think I have already explained it really wouldn’t be a problem for me but I wouldn’t want to be the cause of any hostility. My gut feeling at the moment is that it would be ok and any animosity or bad feeling would be from a small minority. It's not about if you're okay with guy on guy play or if you're respectful to others sexuality. As a bisexual female I'd be severely disappointed attending a bisexual night with my partner who is bisexual to find straight males are welcome. Same for straight women. It's a bisexual night for a reason. You're just diluting it for those who are there to play. It's one more straight male taking up a spot of a bisexual male that we could have played with. It's also a waste of our money if clubs are letting straight males in when we are under the impression bisexual nights are exclusively for bisexuals. (Sorry for the unpopular opinion) Diluting it how? Just because they are all bi doesn't guarantee a fuck." Obviously it doesn't guarantee a fuck. But it's frustrating and a waste of our time if we started talking to a 'couple' to then find out one half was straight. That's not why we're there. If we wanted that we would attend a normal night. | |||
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"There are many bi nights that don't welcome straight guys as it can cause issue..... Disapproving looks for starters and an atmosphere that leaves it uncomfortable in which to play. I know of one night where a straight guy tried starting a fight when he was touched by another male. Admittedly said male shouldn't have touched without permission but it blew up wildly according to the many versions I heard. This was not in SX I will add. Thanks for the feedback. I’m more and more on the fence with this. I wouldn’t have been that guy that lost his shit lol. They would get a curt no thanks at worse and only if I couldn’t think of a more witty/funny response. I’ve had similar incidents when in regular gay clubs and it hasn’t been a big deal. The disapproving looks and bad atmosphere is more getting to the point of why I asked the question. As I think I have already explained it really wouldn’t be a problem for me but I wouldn’t want to be the cause of any hostility. My gut feeling at the moment is that it would be ok and any animosity or bad feeling would be from a small minority. It's not about if you're okay with guy on guy play or if you're respectful to others sexuality. As a bisexual female I'd be severely disappointed attending a bisexual night with my partner who is bisexual to find straight males are welcome. Same for straight women. It's a bisexual night for a reason. You're just diluting it for those who are there to play. It's one more straight male taking up a spot of a bisexual male that we could have played with. It's also a waste of our money if clubs are letting straight males in when we are under the impression bisexual nights are exclusively for bisexuals. (Sorry for the unpopular opinion) Diluting it how? Just because they are all bi doesn't guarantee a fuck. Obviously it doesn't guarantee a fuck. But it's frustrating and a waste of our time if we started talking to a 'couple' to then find out one half was straight. That's not why we're there. If we wanted that we would attend a normal night. " What if you talk to a couple and they don't fancy you? Just the same situation. | |||
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"There are many bi nights that don't welcome straight guys as it can cause issue..... Disapproving looks for starters and an atmosphere that leaves it uncomfortable in which to play. I know of one night where a straight guy tried starting a fight when he was touched by another male. Admittedly said male shouldn't have touched without permission but it blew up wildly according to the many versions I heard. This was not in SX I will add. " We saw this happen in a Manc club and it wasn't fun. We prefer bi night to be for bi people only. On the flip side of that who objects to us bi folk attending straight nights and what would you think if you saw two men playing? | |||
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"Women can't say no to sex, so they will touch other men without asking and just demand a suck or a fuck. That's the risk of going to a straight night. Straight women should not go unless they will suck or fuck a man when he tells him to. " Fixed it for you. | |||
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"Bi men can't say no to sex, so they will touch other men without asking and just demand a suck or a fuck. That's the risk of going to a bi night. Straight men should not go unless they will suck or fuck a man when he tells him to. " Really? I want to go to the club where the bi guys are this forward Certainly isn't my experience of bi men. | |||
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"Women can't say no to sex, so they will touch other men without asking and just demand a suck or a fuck. That's the risk of going to a straight night. Straight women should not go unless they will suck or fuck a man when he tells him to. Fixed it for you." No need to fix it, I was making a point. What I said was clearly bollocks. | |||
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"Bi men can't say no to sex, so they will touch other men without asking and just demand a suck or a fuck. That's the risk of going to a bi night. Straight men should not go unless they will suck or fuck a man when he tells him to. Really? I want to go to the club where the bi guys are this forward Certainly isn't my experience of bi men." It does sound fun. | |||
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"Well i can’t help thinking that some of the logic in this discussion is seriously flawed. I do understand that you wouldn’t want a large amount of straight people at a bi night but the reality is that’s not likely to ever happen. Most straight men aren’t likely to be comfortable going to a bi event. Your only ever going to have a small portion of guys who would be willing to attend and even then would be very unlikely to actually go as they’d rather attend another night. So this idea that your gonna have a club full of straight people ruining everything doesn’t really stand up. Another thing is why on earth would a straight guy attending a bi night with his wife for example not play. If she is bi and they find a bi lady to play with why would it stop him? She would be getting her bi fun and mr would be perfectly happy. I’m not saying it has to go down like that but just making the point that there is no reason why he wouldn’t join in the fun. This is no different to a normal club evening where there are plenty of couples looking for single girls or guys! This idea that finding out one half of a couple is straight at a bi night would be disappointing. Well I’m really sorry but wake up and smell the beans. That’s just how it is. There’s not a party in the world where everyone is everyone’s cup of tea. Your always going to have the possibility of getting a no thank you in any club environment. So this notion of a straight guy ruining your night because he said no just doesn’t wash with me. When I asked the question I was expecting to get replies along the lines of. You can go and it will be fine but you might enjoy another night more. I wasn’t really expecting such an extreme stance that is so un inclusive. If push comes to shove I would go with not letting single straight people in to a bi night. Again I’m not sure how often that would actually happen anyway but clearly they don’t really fit in anywhere. I do feel not letting straight half’s of couples attend is borderline ridiculous. I mean seriously. Are you going to start a new club night called half bi night! Or are all the couples out there where one half is bi not supposed to attend bi nights because someone might get upset at being told no thanks. Sorry I think it’s ridiculous. It’s like telling a couple they can’t attend a club night because they are only interested in singles. " Don't ask questions you don't like the answers to, it's not all about play it's simply a slippery slope, if it's a bi night, it's a bi night. If you let one straight male in, then you have to let the next one in and before you know it it's a standard night and it's a wash for the bisexual people or was intended for. | |||
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"I went to a Bi night once, didn't have a great night to be honest. Got invited to another one by a lovely lady but the hosts wouldn't allow me on the guest list because I'm straight. I bit my tongue and didn't accuse them of discrimination or ask them if they'd say the same to a Bi person if it was the other way round " There is no other way around, there are no straight nights, if there were we wouldn't attend. So yes it's fair. | |||
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"There are many bi nights that don't welcome straight guys as it can cause issue..... Disapproving looks for starters and an atmosphere that leaves it uncomfortable in which to play. I know of one night where a straight guy tried starting a fight when he was touched by another male. Admittedly said male shouldn't have touched without permission but it blew up wildly according to the many versions I heard. This was not in SX I will add. Thanks for the feedback. I’m more and more on the fence with this. I wouldn’t have been that guy that lost his shit lol. They would get a curt no thanks at worse and only if I couldn’t think of a more witty/funny response. I’ve had similar incidents when in regular gay clubs and it hasn’t been a big deal. The disapproving looks and bad atmosphere is more getting to the point of why I asked the question. As I think I have already explained it really wouldn’t be a problem for me but I wouldn’t want to be the cause of any hostility. My gut feeling at the moment is that it would be ok and any animosity or bad feeling would be from a small minority. It's not about if you're okay with guy on guy play or if you're respectful to others sexuality. As a bisexual female I'd be severely disappointed attending a bisexual night with my partner who is bisexual to find straight males are welcome. Same for straight women. It's a bisexual night for a reason. You're just diluting it for those who are there to play. It's one more straight male taking up a spot of a bisexual male that we could have played with. It's also a waste of our money if clubs are letting straight males in when we are under the impression bisexual nights are exclusively for bisexuals. (Sorry for the unpopular opinion) Diluting it how? Just because they are all bi doesn't guarantee a fuck. Obviously it doesn't guarantee a fuck. But it's frustrating and a waste of our time if we started talking to a 'couple' to then find out one half was straight. That's not why we're there. If we wanted that we would attend a normal night. What if you talk to a couple and they don't fancy you? Just the same situation. " | |||
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"I went to a Bi night once, didn't have a great night to be honest. Got invited to another one by a lovely lady but the hosts wouldn't allow me on the guest list because I'm straight. I bit my tongue and didn't accuse them of discrimination or ask them if they'd say the same to a Bi person if it was the other way round There is no other way around, there are no straight nights, if there were we wouldn't attend. So yes it's fair." I'm glad I'm not the only one thinking that. I've never heard of straight nights either. However on standard nights I've only ever seen two men playing once and unfortunately heard comments by others about it making them uncomfortable so it seems that it already does happen the other way around as some straight people seem to think a standard night is just for them. | |||
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"I went to a Bi night once, didn't have a great night to be honest. Got invited to another one by a lovely lady but the hosts wouldn't allow me on the guest list because I'm straight. I bit my tongue and didn't accuse them of discrimination or ask them if they'd say the same to a Bi person if it was the other way round There is no other way around, there are no straight nights, if there were we wouldn't attend. So yes it's fair. I'm glad I'm not the only one thinking that. I've never heard of straight nights either. However on standard nights I've only ever seen two men playing once and unfortunately heard comments by others about it making them uncomfortable so it seems that it already does happen the other way around as some straight people seem to think a standard night is just for them." They simply don't understand how few chances bisexuals get to play with genuine people. They try to muscle in because the odds of getting two girls are better on a bi night, not that they'd admit that. | |||
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"I tend to think that MM play is something often discouraged in most swinging clubs, almost a final tabboo. I also think that if straight men are upset by feeling less than entirely welcome at a bi night, which is often put on in large part for bi men, they should have a little empathy for their bi and gay brothers. And come back on a night that caters to them... Which is, oh, any other night. " Also this. | |||
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"Well i can’t help thinking that some of the logic in this discussion is seriously flawed. I do understand that you wouldn’t want a large amount of straight people at a bi night but the reality is that’s not likely to ever happen. " Let me just point out that we have been told by a straight male half of a couple that he was aware of several single straight men who lied to get into the bi nights at a specific venue. Simply because their chances to get noticed that night were better. So it does happen. | |||
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