FabSwingers.com forum: Derek.....Ricky Gervais series

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Well???

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

horribly offensive,in my opinion

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

"horribly offensive,in my opinion"

Shame I missed it by the sound of it....

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"horribly offensive,in my opinion"

Hmmm, Gervais has got that cringe factor about him in most things he does, although the dressing room scene with Les Dennis in Extras was classic.

Karl Pilkington is naturally anytime though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I must be strange as i actually liked this and thought it was very moving at the end. Mind i did work in this sector and thought he had it spot on at times.

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple
over a year ago

hexham

loved it, was moving and a brilliant indictment of peoples prejudices.

Hopefully will finally kill the idea karl pilkington was anything but a created character to take the piss out of the middle classes who listened to the pod cast too,

Also liked the fact that for once care workers were shown in a positive light.

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple
over a year ago

hexham

"horribly offensive,in my opinion"

in what way?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"horribly offensive,in my opinion"

No worse than Father Ted, Faulty Towers, Open all hours, Porridge, the IT crowd and a hundred more. I thiught it was well done.

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple
over a year ago

hexham

"horribly offensive,in my opinion

No worse than Father Ted, Faulty Towers, Open all hours, Porridge, the IT crowd and a hundred more. I thiught it was well done. "

i agree..on another forum we have been having a discussion of the "does he take sugar" view of disability, the idea that one cannot portray a disabled character because that in its self is offensive is the worst kind of patronizing prejudice.

Gervaise created a positive character who showed up those around him, the scene in the pub brought tears to my eyes and we cheered when his friend headbutted the girl being nasty.

Putting disabled people on a pedestal and saying they cannot be portrayed in comedy does no one any good.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"horribly offensive,in my opinion

No worse than Father Ted, Faulty Towers, Open all hours, Porridge, the IT crowd and a hundred more. I thiught it was well done.

Gervaise created a positive character who showed up those around him, the scene in the pub brought tears to my eyes and we cheered when his friend headbutted the girl being nasty.

Putting disabled people on a pedestal and saying they cannot be portrayed in comedy does no one any good."

Big difference between humour with empathy and ridicule. Was well done, not rose tinted same as in life.

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By *ovedupstillCouple
over a year ago

mullinwire

wanted to watch it, but had to work, however, had it on a phone in program on the radio and VERY few people said it was rubbish/insulting/insensitive.

many shared the view it was heart warming, genuinely funny and didnt ridicule the 'disabled' at all.

hopefully will be repeated or be available on the internet somewhere so i can form my own opinion, but i generally dont really like Gervais.

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By *waymanMan
over a year ago

newcastle

"wanted to watch it, but had to work, however, had it on a phone in program on the radio and VERY few people said it was rubbish/insulting/insensitive.

many shared the view it was heart warming, genuinely funny and didnt ridicule the 'disabled' at all.

hopefully will be repeated or be available on the internet somewhere so i can form my own opinion, but i generally dont really like Gervais."

I saw a bit of it and loved the dialogue, which seemed genuinely well observed, but watching Ricky Gervais act is like watching the members of a cargo cult try to charm a plane out of the sky. He knows all the actions and tricks, because he's seen other people do them, but he's still just Ricky Gervais, just like the air traffic controlled in a cargo cult is just a bloke with headphones made out of coconut shells...

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By *ovedupstillCouple
over a year ago

mullinwire

as you say, he is just a comic,not a comic actor.

there are people i can see that, when acting, you forget who it is and emmerse yourself in the character, but whether its brent orwhatever, it really is JUST gervais

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I only saw the trailers and avoided it...

Gervais is a brilliant observationalist...

But this one made me uncomfortable and I chickened out... Too close for my liking for humour...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can't stand ricky gervais.

He might be a talented writer and producer but think he should stay behind the keyboard and cameras and let the actors with talent play the characters.

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By *ashful BazMan
over a year ago

poole dorset

"Can't stand ricky gervais.

He might be a talented writer and producer but think he should stay behind the keyboard and cameras and let the actors with talent play the characters. "

Totally agree, I cannot see what's funny about that man.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i avoided because i'm not keen on Gerwhatshisface but i'm liking the reviews you guys are giving so might just give it a shot

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Can't stand ricky gervais.

He might be a talented writer and producer but think he should stay behind the keyboard and cameras and let the actors with talent play the characters. "

i want to slap him in the face every time he laughs, it just grates me and for that reason alone i cant watch him

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i didnt like it to be fair, i like idiot abroad and extra's, even the office to a certain extent, but i just didnt get this programme, maybe i was expecting a typical gervais comedy, but the only part i found remotely funny was the headbut in the pub, didnt bother watching to the end. no doubt i'll watch it again in a few months time and like it, i tend to do that quite a lot with new shows!!

ps for those of you with virgin who missed it, its on catch up on demand, thats where i watched it last night!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I watched it, didn't take offence at anything but didn't find it funny. Cringeworthy at times, very like Brent in the Office. It just seemed he'd taken the same attributes and put them into a different character.

That said i loved the scene where he sat holding the hand of the old lady as she slept, because she liked it of course, not him.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I looked at this and felt thay played there roles well and sweet at times .. But i was thinking if you was a mum with a child who had somthing wronge would you see it for what it is ... a play .

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

I enjoyed it and will keep watching.

I don't know what genre this could be advertised under other than comedy but unfortunately people expect belly laughs with comedy. I thought it was more pathos/tragedy/observation about life and only becomes 'funny' or 'comedic' through recognition or realisation.

It made me think of Jo Brand's 'Getting On' , a series about old folk and the state of the N.H.S. I think i'm going to find it compelling.

I take on board everything everyone says about how Gervais grates and annoys. I agree but he's so much more he can laugh and be irritating all he likes. I'd like to work with him or know him. Him or Merchant. Pilkington I want to do other things with. ( Dont' ask )

The episode last night couldn't have failed to have moved the least empathetic. It touched on every conceivable emotion. It mirrored characters that we avoid every day of our lives.

Love him or hate him he's original, daring , creative, unafraid, adventurous , intelligent , funny , successful and many other adulations. Yes he does creep me out too.

I like the way he sticks his neck out and doesn't stand still. He could have kept doing the office - he didn't. He could have kept doing Extras - he didn't. He could just stick to stand up or compering or writing - he doesn't. He's diverse and has purpose.

He's very socially minded and uses his skills and talents to make political statements and what is most important is he's humble about it.

UNDERestimated.

No he doesn't pay me. Should do though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I enjoyed it and will keep watching.

It made me think of Jo Brand's 'Getting On' , a series about old folk and the state of the N.H.S. I think i'm going to find it compelling.

The episode last night couldn't have failed to have moved the least empathetic. It touched on every conceivable emotion. It mirrored characters that we avoid every day of our lives.

Love him or hate him he's original, daring , creative, unafraid, adventurous , intelligent , funny , successful and many other adulations. Yes he does creep me out too.

He's very socially minded and uses his skills and talents to make political statements and what is most important is he's humble about it.

UNDERestimated.

No he doesn't pay me. Should do though.

And on next weeks Fab review Granny will be selecting her choices from the newly dicovered Alfred Hitchcock's Debbie Does Dallas (the shower scene is something to behold!)

Your 20% is in the post

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

I'd review a snuff movie if you'll be the cadavar in it .... go on be nice to me.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

just watched it.... and thought it was very very well done...

if you can seperate gervais the performer from the actual programme i think a lot of people would see it in a different light as opposed to preconceived notions that have of what they think it will be like...

the one thing he is very good at as a writer is observations, and i absolutely agree with grannys comparison to jo brands "getting on" series....

I would actually say to people give it a go without thinking about gervais... I didn't think it was insulting at all...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I thought it was great. I do not know what people are being offended by.

I guess a lot of people wanted "jokes" as such, whereas this is a sweet and very emotive narrative, that at no point seeks to ridicule.

I guess there's a lot of people who feel uncomfortable by the fact that Gervais is actually making a brave move with s portraying as having some learning disabilities, and the knee jerk reaction is to follow the crowd and pretend to be offended.

I think that the supporting cast were superb.

In a way it reminded me of a Dennis Potter style of narrative. Great stuff.

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By *issNaughtyxxxWoman
over a year ago

Aberdeen

Keen to watch it after reading your comment's, i'am a special needs carer and a person with a disability so im interested to see what this is all about.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Keen to watch it after reading your comment's, i'am a special needs carer and a person with a disability so im interested to see what this is all about. "

just life in the slow lane really ....

The line that got to me most was Carl Pilkintons....

It's hard to tell when life ended......

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By *issNaughtyxxxWoman
over a year ago

Aberdeen

"Keen to watch it after reading your comment's, i'am a special needs carer and a person with a disability so im interested to see what this is all about.

just life in the slow lane really ....

The line that got to me most was Carl Pilkintons....

It's hard to tell when life ended......"

That is a hard hitting line, id like to think as i have a disability im able to show more empathy with my client's and i can relate to them when they get down. The world/life is a cruel place. Intriqued to watch this even more.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I thought it was beautifully made, moving and funny (Karl

). I loved the subtle elements such as when he went to knock on Joans door, I get the feeling there something deeply personal to Gervais about Derek.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

just watched 15 min on 4oD, Crock of shite.

At least the undatables is true story about their quest for a relationship. Derek was just taking the piss, behaving as if he was special needs.

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple
over a year ago

hexham

"just watched 15 min on 4oD, Crock of shite.

At least the undatables is true story about their quest for a relationship. Derek was just taking the piss, behaving as if he was special needs."

It called acting...

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple
over a year ago

hexham

"I thought it was beautifully made, moving and funny (Karl

). I loved the subtle elements such as when he went to knock on Joans door, I get the feeling there something deeply personal to Gervais about Derek."

apparently its his oldest character...what that means is of course impossible to say.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"just watched 15 min on 4oD, Crock of shite.

At least the undatables is true story about their quest for a relationship. Derek was just taking the piss, behaving as if he was special needs."

Why is it taking the piss ?

Are special needs people so goddam precious we have to pretend they don't exist and just not have them seen in public ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'd review a snuff movie if you'll be the cadavar in it .... go on be nice to me."

Granny, Granny, Granny.

I may play the cad for you, I may even play the fool but I shall not play a cadaver (correct spelling) just so you feel at home or on a meet.

I understand at your time in life you feel your need to prove yourself to others and that you are of interest and share your vague thoughts and the proud achievment in reaching such a monumental age.

I also realise that you so often get mistaken for a stiff at the local beetle drive and bingo hour at the community centre.

Your reviews of the macabre and dark filmography only reflect the dull soul you posess in watching such grim tales in which you take the only pleasure in you have left.

Listening to Hitler's speaches on your gramaphone whilst you view old black and white photos of open graves and the holocaust as you laugh hysterically may be entertaining to you, even a turn on, but for once just try to turn that frown upside down and put a smile on your dial.

Is it true you have bought some crotchless knickers so you can get a better grip on your broomstick?

Anyhoo, have I been nice enough to you?

I'll understand if you don't reply straight away as you may be having your meals on wheels and incontinence pants changed.

Bless you x

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"as you say, he is just a comic,not a comic actor.

there are people i can see that, when acting, you forget who it is and emmerse yourself in the character, but whether its brent orwhatever, it really is JUST gervais"

I think that about gets it said for us too.

Its hard to believe in the character because its so hard to forget its Ricky Gervais.

Even Karl Pilkington, who has little or no experience of acting, became the caretaker.

We weren't offended by it in anyway, and there were some genuinely touching moments, its just that its hard to separate Gervais from Gervais, even though he did have a look of Russel Crowes Maximus with his fringe slicked down.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"I'd review a snuff movie if you'll be the cadavar in it .... go on be nice to me.

Granny, Granny, Granny.

I may play the cad for you, I may even play the fool but I shall not play a cadaver (correct spelling) just so you feel at home or on a meet.

I understand at your time in life you feel your need to prove yourself to others and that you are of interest and share your vague thoughts and the proud achievment in reaching such a monumental age.

I also realise that you so often get mistaken for a stiff at the local beetle drive and bingo hour at the community centre.

Your reviews of the macabre and dark filmography only reflect the dull soul you posess in watching such grim tales in which you take the only pleasure in you have left.

Is it true you have bought some crotchless knickers so you can get a better grip on your broomstick?

Anyhoo, have I been nice enough to you?

I'll understand if you don't reply straight away as you may be having your meals on wheels and incontinence pants changed.

Bless you x

speeches ( correct spelling )

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'd review a snuff movie if you'll be the cadavar in it .... go on be nice to me.

Granny, Granny, Granny.

I may play the cad for you, I may even play the fool but I shall not play a cadaver (correct spelling) just so you feel at home or on a meet.

I understand at your time in life you feel your need to prove yourself to others and that you are of interest and share your vague thoughts and the proud achievment in reaching such a monumental age.

I also realise that you so often get mistaken for a stiff at the local beetle drive and bingo hour at the community centre.

Your reviews of the macabre and dark filmography only reflect the dull soul you posess in watching such grim tales in which you take the only pleasure in you have left.

Is it true you have bought some crotchless knickers so you can get a better grip on your broomstick?

Anyhoo, have I been nice enough to you?

I'll understand if you don't reply straight away as you may be having your meals on wheels and incontinence pants changed.

Bless you x

speeches ( correct spelling ) "

Not bad, it only took you 6 and a half hours to spot the mistake

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

Nope. I've only just got home.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Nope. I've only just got home.

Its took you six hours to find your way home?

Does your carer know you're wandering the streets?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

fantastic well done ricky

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

in a nut shell it was shit

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By *aucy3Couple
over a year ago

glasgow

i'm wondering,if he will ever make something,that will create controversy and debate hmmmmmmm

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