FabSwingers.com forum: Meat. A Threat To Our Planet?

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

On BBC 1 tonight at 9pm. As a life long meat eater and supporter of the British meat industry i might well consider watching it, just to see what their beef is all about.

Will you and what do you hope to gain from it?

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By *rwhowhatwherewhyMan
over a year ago

Aylesbury

A steak in my fridge

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By *ed-monkeyCouple
over a year ago

Hailsham

Soya bean and palm oil ...

a threat to our planet?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Soya bean and palm oil ...

a threat to our planet?"

Unfortunately the vast majority of soya bean crops are grown for animal fodder.

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By *tella HeelsTV/TS
over a year ago

west here ford shire

Meat isn’t a threat

It’s over population of humans that’s the real threat

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By *hechapMan
over a year ago

Derry

The BBC are a threat to your mind.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Plenty people spare

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

"Soya bean and palm oil ...

a threat to our planet?"

Certainly a threat to orangutans.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

"The BBC are a threat to your mind."

True.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Going vegetarian is a huge missed steak

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"The BBC are a threat to your mind."

The BBC are welcome to produce a programme of this nature provided that they also show one from the opposite point of view. Somehow i can't see that happening.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Going vegetarian is a huge missed steak"

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By *r AmbassadorMan
over a year ago

Dublin

If I lived in the UK I'd seriously think about going full veggie, as who wants to eat substandard Beef with trace elements of MCD,

But lucky for me one advantage of living in the a wet pond is the beef is on point,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

British beef is fine. Foreign is often reared differently. To keep the Earth from becoming inhospitable for us cut down across the board including burning less fossil fuels.

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By *hechapMan
over a year ago

Derry

"The BBC are a threat to your mind.

The BBC are welcome to produce a programme of this nature provided that they also show one from the opposite point of view. Somehow i can't see that happening."

No chance of that happening. It will always be 1 sided.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"The BBC are a threat to your mind.

The BBC are welcome to produce a programme of this nature provided that they also show one from the opposite point of view. Somehow i can't see that happening.

No chance of that happening. It will always be 1 sided."

There was a piece on Countryfile last night that appeared to be in support but i only caught the last few seconds.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My arse is a bigger threat

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By *xMFM3sumsxxWoman
over a year ago

SouthWest Lancashire

It's rare i eat meat, the cost is excessive plus i don't really like the taste or texture of most meats.

I sort of wan to watch this programme but neve know if they're going to be properly informative or scaremonger.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"It's rare i eat meat, the cost is excessive plus i don't really like the taste or texture of most meats.

I sort of wan to watch this programme but neve know if they're going to be properly informative or scaremonger."

That's why we need another programme from the opposite view to balance it out.

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By *hilloutMan
over a year ago

All over the place! Northwesr, , Southwest

"The BBC are a threat to your mind."

This!

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By *xMFM3sumsxxWoman
over a year ago

SouthWest Lancashire

"It's rare i eat meat, the cost is excessive plus i don't really like the taste or texture of most meats.

I sort of want to watch this programme but never know if they're going to be properly informative or scaremonger.

That's why we need another programme from the opposite view to balance it out."

To say eating meat is good?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's rare i eat meat, the cost is excessive plus i don't really like the taste or texture of most meats.

I sort of want to watch this programme but never know if they're going to be properly informative or scaremonger.

That's why we need another programme from the opposite view to balance it out.

To say eating meat is good?"

We are Omnivores. We have evolved to eat meat and veg and as such, our bodies need nutrients from both.

Let's get one thing straight though. All contributing factors of climate change are NOT a threat to the planet - they are a threat to our continued existence on it.

The planet will be just fine. It has coped with far hotter (and colder) temperatures (such as when it first formed) and will sort itself out.

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By *ittleAcornMan
over a year ago

visiting the beach

Going by the title it sounds like they will look at both sides to attempt to answer the question.

Personally, it's not meat itself, but the huge quantity we all seem to demand these days.

As a kid, we'd only have a small bit of "meat" (I include 70s sausages in this category, hence the quotes!), on the plate. The bulk of the meal would be veg of some sort.

Who actually needs a kilo of steak in one meal?

It's similar to most of humanities problems, greed and selfishness. Until we focus on these, then everything else is just moving the deckchairs around.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"It's rare i eat meat, the cost is excessive plus i don't really like the taste or texture of most meats.

I sort of want to watch this programme but never know if they're going to be properly informative or scaremonger.

That's why we need another programme from the opposite view to balance it out.

To say eating meat is good?"

To highlight the ecological damage done by switching to purely arable/vegetable production in countries that already have an established grass based system.

No doubt the programme will focus on extreme examples in far off countries that involve deforestation and massive monocultures but that is far from the reality in countries such as ours.

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By *xMFM3sumsxxWoman
over a year ago

SouthWest Lancashire

"It's rare i eat meat, the cost is excessive plus i don't really like the taste or texture of most meats.

I sort of want to watch this programme but never know if they're going to be properly informative or scaremonger.

That's why we need another programme from the opposite view to balance it out.

To say eating meat is good?

To highlight the ecological damage done by switching to purely arable/vegetable production in countries that already have an established grass based system.

No doubt the programme will focus on extreme examples in far off countries that involve deforestation and massive monocultures but that is far from the reality in countries such as ours."

Maybe, i do want to watch it now to see what they say, i know vegetarianism happens in communities that live with animals and it'll be interesting to see if that gets a mention. Will try catch up or something.

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By *xMFM3sumsxxWoman
over a year ago

SouthWest Lancashire

"It's rare i eat meat, the cost is excessive plus i don't really like the taste or texture of most meats.

I sort of want to watch this programme but never know if they're going to be properly informative or scaremonger.

That's why we need another programme from the opposite view to balance it out.

To say eating meat is good?

We are Omnivores. We have evolved to eat meat and veg and as such, our bodies need nutrients from both.

Let's get one thing straight though. All contributing factors of climate change are NOT a threat to the planet - they are a threat to our continued existence on it.

The planet will be just fine. It has coped with far hotter (and colder) temperatures (such as when it first formed) and will sort itself out."

Tend to agree with that,i've said before that even if pollution isn't causing global warming it's still doing a lot of damage.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"It's rare i eat meat, the cost is excessive plus i don't really like the taste or texture of most meats.

I sort of want to watch this programme but never know if they're going to be properly informative or scaremonger.

That's why we need another programme from the opposite view to balance it out.

To say eating meat is good?

To highlight the ecological damage done by switching to purely arable/vegetable production in countries that already have an established grass based system.

No doubt the programme will focus on extreme examples in far off countries that involve deforestation and massive monocultures but that is far from the reality in countries such as ours.

Bear this in mind: if the success of an ecosystem is measured in biodiversity be aware that there is greater biodiversity in a square yard of pasture than there is in an acre of wheat in established grass based systems.

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By *ittleAcornMan
over a year ago

visiting the beach

"It's rare i eat meat, the cost is excessive plus i don't really like the taste or texture of most meats.

I sort of want to watch this programme but never know if they're going to be properly informative or scaremonger.

That's why we need another programme from the opposite view to balance it out.

To say eating meat is good?

To highlight the ecological damage done by switching to purely arable/vegetable production in countries that already have an established grass based system.

No doubt the programme will focus on extreme examples in far off countries that involve deforestation and massive monocultures but that is far from the reality in countries such as ours.

In both cases that depends a little on the nature of the farming.

Not a lot of pasture in the large intensive cattle and pig farms.

Lots of biodiversity in traditionally managed paddy fields.

.. And everything in between.

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

We will soon be persuaded and be grateful for our plate of greens while our lord's and masters fuck into the finest steak at official functions.. do as I say, not as I do...

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"It's rare i eat meat, the cost is excessive plus i don't really like the taste or texture of most meats.

I sort of want to watch this programme but never know if they're going to be properly informative or scaremonger.

That's why we need another programme from the opposite view to balance it out.

To say eating meat is good?

To highlight the ecological damage done by switching to purely arable/vegetable production in countries that already have an established grass based system.

No doubt the programme will focus on extreme examples in far off countries that involve deforestation and massive monocultures but that is far from the reality in countries such as ours.

In both cases that depends a little on the nature of the farming.

Not a lot of pasture in the large intensive cattle and pig farms.

Lots of biodiversity in traditionally managed paddy fields.

.. And everything in between. "

My claim refers to a like for like comparison between meat and wheat production in countries where the meat is produced through an established grass based system. Besides, i don't see many paddy fields in Somerset, though that could well change if it keeps raining.

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

I wonder if we are being drip fed misinformation by non meat eaters ....

Some of them are not content with their personal decision to stop eating meat but will stop at nothing to stop others eating meat

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By *ittleAcornMan
over a year ago

visiting the beach

Anyone watch it? I was out out, so haven't got around to it yet.

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool

"Going vegetarian is a huge missed steak"

Lucky I don't like steak.

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By *ittleAcornMan
over a year ago

visiting the beach

"Going vegetarian is a huge missed steak

Lucky I don't like steak.

I quite like the taste, just find I can't eat that amount of meat (even a small steak seems daunting).

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool

"Going vegetarian is a huge missed steak

Lucky I don't like steak.

I quite like the taste, just find I can't eat that amount of meat (even a small steak seems daunting). "

Most meat just feels like endless chewing to me. I like fish though.

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity

Meat is just like any other resource on the Planet .

More and more is needed as the population explodes .

Eventually, like Oil , Crops , Soya , Palm Oil , and others , there will be too many people and not enough space/resources for everyone .

That's when society will turn to shit , riots and lawlessness take over , and humans are fucked .

I think that covers it !!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Anyone watch it? I was out out, so haven't got around to it yet. "

I missed it too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A couple of thoughts, mainly originated by others:

1) Meat is not a threat. Humans are. Unbridled growth of the human population is not sustainable. Our appetities, for meat and energy particularly, are highly damaging.

2) Agent Smith was right - we are a virus doing our best to destroy our host.

3) Thanos might just be right.

4) We don't really threaten the planet at all. Just our tenure of it. We'll make it unlivable for the current human population, but the planet, along with some other forms of life, will persist.

5) Maybe we're just a practise run. The planet isn't totally stable (Pacific ring of fire and all that) and possibly not totally suitable for long-term occupation by humans yet.Come back in a few million years.

Back to work

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A couple of thoughts, mainly originated by others:

1) Meat is not a threat. Humans are. Unbridled growth of the human population is not sustainable. Our appetities, for meat and energy particularly, are highly damaging.

2) Agent Smith was right - we are a virus doing our best to destroy our host.

3) Thanos might just be right.

4) We don't really threaten the planet at all. Just our tenure of it. We'll make it unlivable for the current human population, but the planet, along with some other forms of life, will persist.

Back to work

I believe in thanos and his views

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

I don't think it was on my must see list.. Hardly groundbreaking stuff.. basically try ever more inventive ways to feed more and more people which in turn will be an ever bigger drain on the planets resources..

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By *andybeachWoman
over a year ago

In the middle

We won’t kill the planet but we will kill each other eventually as the space gets take over, no more fields/forest/wetlands etc that make the eco system, we will then fight between ourselves for the little that can be produced.

We will be gone but the planet will still be here long after us

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We won’t kill the planet but we will kill each other eventually as the space gets take over, no more fields/forest/wetlands etc that make the eco system, we will then fight between ourselves for the little that can be produced.

We will be gone but the planet will still be here long after us

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