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By *ea monkey OP   Man
over a year ago

Manchester (he/him)

It's that time of year again where the turkeys are nervous and there's a jingle in your bells, so who's in for this year's game?

It's not that complicated. Allow me to enlighten you.

THE FIRST RULE

The objective is to go as long as possible without hearing WHAM's Christmas classic; "Last Christmas".

THE SECOND RULE

The game starts on December 1st, and ends at midnight on December 24th.

Use your local timezone, if you'd like.

(Yes, we're European heathens)

THE THIRD RULE

Only the original version applies. Enjoy the fuck out of remixes and covers.

THE FOURTH RULE

You're out as soon as you recognise the song.

While I can't stop you from deliberately sending your friends to Whamhalla, the intention is that this is a survival game. Not a Battle Royale. So ... don't be a dick, mkay?

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

I'm out already, I love that song, I won't attempt to avoid it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can I wear ear defenders? I really don't stand a chance working in retail

Peach x

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By *uriousscouserWoman
over a year ago

Wirral

I was discussing Whamageddon in work this very morning and nobody had heard of it.

What the hell kind of office is this?

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By *modDMan
over a year ago

Lichfield

Has it got to be the Wham original, what about cover versions or pub singers!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I was discussing Whamageddon in work this very morning and nobody had heard of it.

What the hell kind of office is this?"

Similarly, none of the dicks I work with have heard of this. I'm in for the craic

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By *eliWoman
over a year ago

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Okay I'm in. I won't sabotage anyone else. Maybe.

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By *modDMan
over a year ago

Lichfield


"Has it got to be the Wham original, what about cover versions or pub singers!"

Read the post properly now.

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By *ilsaGeorgeCouple
over a year ago

kent

I’m in. I really don’t like that song.

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By *ed-monkeyCouple
over a year ago

Hailsham

What constitutes "hearing"?

The whole thing? or are the first few notes enough?

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By *ilsaGeorgeCouple
over a year ago

kent


"Okay I'm in. I won't sabotage anyone else. Maybe. "

If you send me a message with a link I won’t open it just in case

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By *aven RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool

I'm out. I've been sending voice notes to my friends of me singing along to it at the top of my voice. I plan on inflicting them daily x

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By *modDMan
over a year ago

Lichfield


"I’m in. I really don’t like that song. "

Like many of Michael’s songs, it sounds great stripped down and played acoustically. He was just a boy when he wrote it, bit of a genius was George.

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By *ost SockMan
over a year ago

West Wales and Cardiff

I’m in.

I try to avoid everything about Christmas anyway

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Always in for a game of Whammageddon.

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By *modDMan
over a year ago

Lichfield

I’m in but I doubt I’ll last long.

Are we still in gangbang chat?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Can I wear ear defenders? I really don't stand a chance working in retail

Peach x"

yes you are

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By *ea monkey OP   Man
over a year ago

Manchester (he/him)


"What constitutes "hearing"?

The whole thing? or are the first few notes enough?"

Recognising the song, not the whole thing.

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By *ea monkey OP   Man
over a year ago

Manchester (he/him)


"Can I wear ear defenders? I really don't stand a chance working in retail

Peach x"

The first casualty of whammageddon is innocence...

Oh wait...

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By *ed-monkeyCouple
over a year ago

Hailsham


"What constitutes "hearing"?

The whole thing? or are the first few notes enough?

Recognising the song, not the whole thing. "

Well I'll give it go … dislike the song

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By *uryWhipMan
over a year ago

Harringay

Ladted right up until the 23rd last year. Got whamed at a market in Germany of all places

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Were in

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up


"I'm out already, I love that song, I won't attempt to avoid it. "
I'm out already as already heard it last week.

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By *ea monkey OP   Man
over a year ago

Manchester (he/him)


"I'm out already, I love that song, I won't attempt to avoid it. I'm out already as already heard it last week. "

First of December is the starting point, just consider that your dry run

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm in

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up


"I'm out already, I love that song, I won't attempt to avoid it. I'm out already as already heard it last week.

First of December is the starting point, just consider that your dry run"

I've even heard it once today and I'm not even in the country

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By *ea monkey OP   Man
over a year ago

Manchester (he/him)

Nearly time!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Had a close call yesterday whilst driving! As soon as those first bars started the radio was off! I live to fight whamaggedon another day

Peach x

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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago

There and to the left a bit

Sounds like fun - count me in

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’m in x

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By *ea monkey OP   Man
over a year ago

Manchester (he/him)


"Had a close call yesterday whilst driving! As soon as those first bars started the radio was off! I live to fight whamaggedon another day

Peach x"

It's not the first yet but that would absolutely count as you recognised it!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Works Xmas party next Saturday, going to fail big time!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's already playing on the radio and it's not even December.

The radio is only on here as I have people decorating a bedroom.

After this week there will be radio silence again.

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By *r TriomanMan
over a year ago

Chippenham Malmesbury area

I listen to 6 music so I doubt they'll play it but you never know.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I listen to 6 music so I doubt they'll play it but you never know."

You'll be walking past a shop and find yourself humming it, then realise they had it playing on the radio.

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By *ea monkey OP   Man
over a year ago

Manchester (he/him)

And so...

We're off! Day one folks, I hope you've got your ear defenders on!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Okay an important question. That fucking awful looking film. Is it a cover or the original in the advert?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"And so...

We're off! Day one folks, I hope you've got your ear defenders on! "

In! Although we all nearly fell at the first hurdle because of Jim wanting Freya to play the unmentionable on her guitar! Luckily I stepped in and disaster averted!

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By *omesticflightMan
over a year ago

Burton-on-Trent

I'm a veteran from last year, possibly the one before too.

Last year I made it til the 23rd, goddamn supermarket.

Remain vigilant

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By *ed-monkeyCouple
over a year ago

Hailsham

[Removed by poster at 01/12/19 13:04:48]

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By *ed-monkeyCouple
over a year ago

Hailsham

13 hours in ... I'm still in the race

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By *hoenixAdAstraWoman
over a year ago

Hiding in the shadows

Not heard it yet, although was several other Christmassy songs on the radio this morning

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By *odgerbadgerCouple
over a year ago

anywhere

I don't stand a chance in work but will see how long I can last

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I reckon I'll be out today, going to Meadowhall...

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By *ea monkey OP   Man
over a year ago

Manchester (he/him)


"I reckon I'll be out today, going to Meadowhall..."

Fallen at the first hurdle?

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By *uriousscouserWoman
over a year ago

Wirral

Still in. This is a personal best for me.

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By *hoenixAdAstraWoman
over a year ago

Hiding in the shadows

I'm out!

Some arse put it on the jukebox at work last night

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm in. And out. Bugger.

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman
over a year ago

On a mooch

I’m in, no music at work, no music in the pub I drink in, not on my play list, do mostly online shopping. I’ve a good chance until the MLS

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By *a LunaWoman
over a year ago

South Wales

I heard Last Christmas on the Radio this morning on the way into work. There was no warning dammit!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’m in.

Don’t listen to music at home and although there’s a radio in one part of my office, it’s not somewhere I stay in for long enough to worry

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By *eliWoman
over a year ago

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I'm still in! Yay me.

I have a feeling I might fail on Wednesday though.

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By *ighland gentlemanMan
over a year ago

Ardgay

Between Radio Scotland and Radio 4, I should have a decent chance of avoiding all Christmas music let alone Wham.

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By *rAitchMan
over a year ago

Diagonally Parked in a Parallel Universe

I'm in. On a day's leave today. Radio off, and when in the car I tend to listen to prog rock.

My only fear is I have 2 nights in hotels this week working away, and they tend to play bilge on their piped muzak systems.

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By *odgerbadgerCouple
over a year ago

anywhere

I survived yesterday, we will see how Wednesday goes when I am back in work

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Planet Rock is as safe a place as any

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Planet Rock is as safe a place as any "

That's what I've tuned the work radios into

Peach x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm doing good so far An horrendous cover was being played in poundland. I dumped my pick n mix and ran

Peach x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Are you hugging your tree Tea

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By *ea monkey OP   Man
over a year ago

Manchester (he/him)


"Are you hugging your tree Tea "

That would've been quite prickly!

I'm a respectful distance...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Planet Rock is as safe a place as any

That's what I've tuned the work radios into

Peach x"

It’s not just for crimbo

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am in

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I am in "

And I’m out -doh!

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By *urtyGentMan
over a year ago

eastleigh

I’m still in!! Incredible scenes

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By *ea monkey OP   Man
over a year ago

Manchester (he/him)

I've just survived the shopping centre. It looks like I'm on to day three!

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By *ed-monkeyCouple
over a year ago

Hailsham

I'm still in for day 3

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm out before I'm even in. Radio today.

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up


"I'm out before I'm even in. Radio today. "
heard it today at christmas lights switch on

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm proud of you all Tomorrow is another tough day. Stay strong

Peach x

*plugs headphones back in...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm proud of you all Tomorrow is another tough day. Stay strong

Peach x

*plugs headphones back in..."

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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago

There and to the left a bit

Still going and have been in some likely places to be hijacked (supermarkets and garden centres) but come away unscathed so far...can count one Simply Having A Wonderful Christmas Time and a couple of others though

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Okay so I heard it before the 1st but that doesn’t count, right?

So - I’m in!

But.. Xmas party this Friday so probs not for long

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By *ust PeachyWoman
over a year ago

Prestonish

I’m in - but I’m planning to go see the film of the same name over the coming week - so if it plays the original version I’m buggered!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Still in! Managed my shift with smooth radio channel playing in the background

Peach x

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By *manaWoman
over a year ago

Basingstoke

Failed!!!

I'm a failure.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Failed!!!

I'm a failure."

You lasted longer than me, I was in for less than an hour

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Is it too late to join this?

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By *ea monkey OP   Man
over a year ago

Manchester (he/him)


"Is it too late to join this? "

Not at all!

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By *manaWoman
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"Failed!!!

I'm a failure.

You lasted longer than me, I was in for less than an hour "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Failed!!!

I'm a failure.

You lasted longer than me, I was in for less than an hour

"

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By *ust PeachyWoman
over a year ago

Prestonish

I’m out already! Bloody Grimmy warned us when he was about to play it on R1 last year so we could change channels - this year he just went ahead and played it!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Still going strong in the whamageddon

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By *manaWoman
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"Still going strong in the whamageddon "

Call me. I'm playing xmas music.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Still going strong in the whamageddon

Call me. I'm playing xmas music."

Hellll nooo

I’ll hopefully stay strong till at least Christmas Eve

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

3 days in for me so far

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"3 days in for me so far "

Me too and I've been to Meadowhall again today!

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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago

There and to the left a bit

Was expecting to get hijacked today with a trip to The Range and then Tesco but combat rolled in and out and closed my ears for the duration so managed it - not going out tomorrow so unless it pops up on Corrie I may make day 5

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Day 4 in the whammageddon house and still in

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’m in. Haven’t heard it yet

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By *ea monkey OP   Man
over a year ago

Manchester (he/him)

Still going strong, I got the Jackson 5 but I'm still in!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Still in.

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

I claim my prize.

"Last Christmas" by Wham at Diamonds bar in Playa del Ingles last night.

And Slade.

In fact, the whole feckin' compilation.

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By *manaWoman
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"I claim my prize.

"Last Christmas" by Wham at Diamonds bar in Playa del Ingles last night.

And Slade.

In fact, the whole feckin' compilation."

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By *ady LickWoman
over a year ago

Northampton Somewhere

It's on capital now!!! It was going so well...

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By *ea monkey OP   Man
over a year ago

Manchester (he/him)


"It's on capital now!!! It was going so well...

"

And so the casualties of a careless whisper of Wham,, start to fall...

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By *manaWoman
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"It's on capital now!!! It was going so well...

And so the casualties of a careless whisper of Wham,, start to fall... "

*groans*

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What’s that? sorry, I can’t hear over SLAYER

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What’s that? sorry, I can’t hear over SLAYER "

Has Slayer got a song on that ‘Best of Christmas Love Ballads’ cd I know you love listening to then?

Oh! Was that a secret?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What’s that? sorry, I can’t hear over SLAYER

Has Slayer got a song on that ‘Best of Christmas Love Ballads’ cd I know you love listening to then?

Oh! Was that a secret? "

Sure yeah why not

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We're out . Damn you Sainsbury's

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By *ed-monkeyCouple
over a year ago

Hailsham

Few close call

Advert for film Last Christmas on TV

It was on mute

Remind me of the rule .. is it any cover or does it have to be Wham-a-lang-a-ding-dong?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Still in!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am still in

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Woop! Day 4 smashed

Peach x

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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago

There and to the left a bit

Barring inadvertent hearings on telly tonight I'm alive come day five

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Still alive and kicking

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By *ed-monkeyCouple
over a year ago

Hailsham


"Still alive and kicking "

That was Simple Minds

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By *orthern StarsCouple
over a year ago

Durham

I heard about this on the radio. Dudn't hace a clue what it was all about. Thanks for enlightening me.

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By *odgerbadgerCouple
over a year ago

anywhere

Managed to survive another shift in work, wish me luck for tomorrow

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By *rijj73Man
over a year ago

croydon

Just been to see last Christmas at cinema, couldn’t avoid it, I’m out

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By *uriousscouserWoman
over a year ago

Wirral

Can't quite believe it but I'm still in.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Still in, thank you Spotify for protecting me

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By *ea monkey OP   Man
over a year ago

Manchester (he/him)


"Just been to see last Christmas at cinema, couldn’t avoid it, I’m out "

I think the clue was in the title...

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By *emorefridaCouple
over a year ago

La la land

Had to listen to the radio in my car this morning, and I'm out grr. Though at least it was Mariah Carey I suppose

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By *ed-monkeyCouple
over a year ago

Hailsham


"Just been to see last Christmas at cinema, couldn’t avoid it, I’m out

I think the clue was in the title... "

Remind me .. is it just the Wham version … or any cover?

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman
over a year ago

On a mooch

Still in

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Am still in

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By *ed-monkeyCouple
over a year ago

Hailsham


"Just been to see last Christmas at cinema, couldn’t avoid it, I’m out

I think the clue was in the title...

Remind me .. is it just the Wham version … or any cover?"

Belay that … I read the rules again, rule 3 … doh!!

Most definitely still in!!

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By *andsome HandMan
over a year ago

roundabout

Still in

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm surprised to still be in this game. Local co op has played me Slade, Mariah, Mud, Chris Rhea...

But no wham yet....

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By *ea monkey OP   Man
over a year ago

Manchester (he/him)


"Had to listen to the radio in my car this morning, and I'm out grr. Though at least it was Mariah Carey I suppose"

If it was a cover, you're still in. It has to be the original wham version

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By *emorefridaCouple
over a year ago

La la land


"Had to listen to the radio in my car this morning, and I'm out grr. Though at least it was Mariah Carey I suppose

If it was a cover, you're still in. It has to be the original wham version"

It was the original version damn it

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By *ea monkey OP   Man
over a year ago

Manchester (he/him)


"I'm surprised to still be in this game. Local co op has played me Slade, Mariah, Mud, Chris Rhea...

But no wham yet.... "

Flirting with disaster there... Christmas Russian roulette

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Damn you Absolute 80s! I'm out.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Still alive and kicking

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sat in the car about to leave work, U105 playing a song in not fussed on so I turn to fucking Q bastarding Radio and, Wham!, I'm out

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By *urplequeenWoman
over a year ago

Fife

I was in in the first and out on the 1st..sabotaged by a colleague that works in the pub

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Still in! I ducked into tescos with white Christmas playing, grabbed my lunch and ran before it finished Planet rock and kisstory stations at work

It's tough out there guys, keep strong

Peach x

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By *nto My ArmsMan
over a year ago

Herts/London

I heard today that The Queen is thinking of issuing a decree to stop this song being played over Christmas.

Wham banned? Thank you ma'am.

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By *stellaWoman
over a year ago

London


"I heard today that The Queen is thinking of issuing a decree to stop this song being played over Christmas.

Wham banned? Thank you ma'am. "

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

Im still in but i will be in asda for a couple of hours tomorrow

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Still in - headphones in all the way around Tesco’s earlier. No radio at work or in the car. I am even muting the tv adverts... I think I may be taking this to seriously lol

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

I'm still in

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I heard today that The Queen is thinking of issuing a decree to stop this song being played over Christmas.

Wham banned? Thank you ma'am. "

Amazing.

I’m still in, but it’s work Xmas party tomorrow night and I can sense the sword of Wham-ocles hanging over my head.

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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago

There and to the left a bit

And another day cleared - had to sit in a dentist waiting room for a while earlier and was dreading them putting music on but didn't happen...then the TV ad for the film of the same name came on but I la la la la'd loudly till it was over...finally was watching an old Xmas edition of The Apollo stand up thing where each act came out to a Xmas song but mercifully no sittings...

...so into Day 6 I go

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Still clear but I’ve got to go to the shop wish me luck

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Going well. Was in the cafe for an hour this morning, but Capital aren't playing Christmas songs yet...

If anything it'll be co op that ruins it...

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By *andsome HandMan
over a year ago

roundabout

Still in but heading into town. Is it against the spirit of the game to put headphones in?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Going well. Was in the cafe for an hour this morning, but Capital aren't playing Christmas songs yet...

If anything it'll be co op that ruins it..."

That’s where I’m going

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Still going....have Heart on in the office though, ticking time bomb

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Going well. Was in the cafe for an hour this morning, but Capital aren't playing Christmas songs yet...

If anything it'll be co op that ruins it...

That’s where I’m going "

Be careful put there... good luck

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Going well. Was in the cafe for an hour this morning, but Capital aren't playing Christmas songs yet...

If anything it'll be co op that ruins it...

That’s where I’m going

Be careful put there... good luck"

Ooh yeah! Still in!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I suggest you people don’t put Heart on right now

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I can't believe I am still in

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By *stellaWoman
over a year ago

London


"I can't believe I am still in"

Tangent; I love your skirt in your avatar!

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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago

There and to the left a bit

Have just survived The Range and a prolonged visit to Sainsburys - the latter spent cringing as each Xmas song played came to an end but unscathed and barring a disaster heading into day seven in the Whamaggedon house

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

Still in. I spent a couple of hrs in asda and they either had no music or in so deaf i couldnt hear it

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By *ea monkey OP   Man
over a year ago

Manchester (he/him)

I've survived the day so far, the only sticking point might be a trip into the shop later...

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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago

There and to the left a bit

Bring on day seven

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By *erriAnneTV/TS
over a year ago

The shire

I'm still in

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By *nabelle21Woman
over a year ago

B38


"I'm out already, I love that song, I won't attempt to avoid it. "

This for me too

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By *odgerbadgerCouple
over a year ago

anywhere

Still in, I think work just hate wham at the moment. Let's see how the weekly shop turns out tomorrow

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Il need an adjudication. I was talking to the painter on site yesterday and he started singing ‘ the song that can’t not be heard ‘.

Am I still in or out ?

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By *eliWoman
over a year ago

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Day seven, still in. I might fail though as I'm going shopping.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Il need an adjudication. I was talking to the painter on site yesterday and he started singing ‘ the song that can’t not be heard ‘.

Am I still in or out ? "

Think that technically counts as a cover version lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We are still in, thank God for Spotify on the school run

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By *lint-EverhardMan
over a year ago

Perpignan and cap

That gets played in June round our way. I'm out, out, out.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Still going

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Happy to play, I completely hate whams last christmas When you think about it, it's first release was 83/84

I must have heard the song hundreds and hundreds of times, in fact I dislike most Christmas songs for the same reason!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Still in - but going into town for Christmas shopping so probably be out soon!

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By *erriAnneTV/TS
over a year ago

The shire

Still in and going strong

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By *ea monkey OP   Man
over a year ago

Manchester (he/him)

Day 7 in whammageddon and I'm still in. Many people today are running the gambit of Christmas shopping and socialising though. I sense a thinning of the field over the next two days...

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By *ea monkey OP   Man
over a year ago

Manchester (he/him)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Still in, works party tonight. Expecting to be out by dawn

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’m out. As predicted, the work party was an inevitable hurdle.

Good look to those still standing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Il need an adjudication. I was talking to the painter on site yesterday and he started singing ‘ the song that can’t not be heard ‘.

Am I still in or out ?

Think that technically counts as a cover version lol"

Cool I’m still in then , although it was just like George singing

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By *uryWhipMan
over a year ago

Harringay

Im out, got whamageddoned yesterday by the office radio coz I took my earbuds out for a second.

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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago

There and to the left a bit

Just spent an hour or so at a relatives house who had Radio 2 on so was dreading each new song as it was played but happy to say I'm still in

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

5 hours shopping in Dundee and I’m still in!

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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago

There and to the left a bit

Heading towards Day 8 but Xmas shopping tomorrow so it could well be tempting fate

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

still in even when my son put the chritmas song channel on. made him switch it off quickly

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Out! Of course it was played at works xmas party

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

Still in, the radio nor venues have played it for me to hear

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By *ovegames42Man
over a year ago

london

Classic fm it is then

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Still in - but on shift for the next four days so I am bound to hear it

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By *osie xWoman
over a year ago

wolverhampton

Got caught last night Damn you Alexa but it was nice to hear

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