FabSwingers.com forum: do you have faith in the police

By *good-being-bad OP Man
over a year ago

mis-types and auto corrects leads cock leeds

So I posted a thread yesterday about a lady stealing momney from my disabled mothers house. I have the thieving bitch on video doing it..yippee I thought, so I rang the police reported and the response I've had..

Police visit to view the video take the thief in for questioning .. nooooo.

Ploice visit to see the video ..nooooo.

I had a phone call asking me..yeah thats right ..me to go to the station to discuss my report.

Errrr.. my response ..

why not come to the house see the video and then you can go and see the thieving bitch who lives next door.

I get the sense they'd like me to invrstigate collect the evidence (i have) and go and take the thief in cuffs to the station having done all of their job while they carry on eating doughnuts.

Thieves must be laughing all the way to the bank.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And there in a nutshell is the true cost of austerity and police cuts. They have no resources. Dont blame the police blame the tories and the lib dems for a decade of cuts

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes, I have a lot of faith in them, since I've worked in the policing sector for 16 years and see how bloody hard they work.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It is perfectly reasonable for the police to ask you to go to the station with your evidence. I don't see what your problem is to be honest. It's not a 999 type situation is it. You need to bear in mind that the police have to prioritise their time and if visit every person who files a theft report, others who have suffered much more serious crimes will be left waiting.

Your comment about them eating donuts while you do their work is offensive .

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By *good-being-bad OP Man
over a year ago

mis-types and auto corrects leads cock leeds

"And there in a nutshell is the true cost of austerity and police cuts. They have no resources. Dont blame the police blame the tories and the lib dems for a decade of cuts"

I often read and hear they're under resourced..

Seems unless it's newsworthy (arsenal footballers comesto mind). Then they'll do something.

I was stopped by a traffic census a bit ago, Lots of police (6) at the roadside with the guy asking the question. Great use of resource.

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By *VineMan
over a year ago

The right place

I do have faith in the police. I’m sure that most people in the police force work hard and do their best. As has been said already the issue is a political one, it’s about lack of funding. If you voted conservative you really can’t complain.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"And there in a nutshell is the true cost of austerity and police cuts. They have no resources. Dont blame the police blame the tories and the lib dems for a decade of cuts

I often read and hear they're under resourced..

Seems unless it's newsworthy (arsenal footballers comesto mind). Then they'll do something.

I was stopped by a traffic census a bit ago, Lots of police (6) at the roadside with the guy asking the question. Great use of resource.

It is a good use of resources as you’d be moaning about the traffic congestion.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sorry why isnt it reasonable for you to go to the station?

Ive been a victim of a serious crime and the police were amazing, i totally understood how busy they are and yet they always did their best for me.

Any crime is not a nice thing to experience, but just remember they are dealing with very serious situations and its not a first come first served basis, its prioritising the urgency.

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By *good-being-bad OP Man
over a year ago

mis-types and auto corrects leads cock leeds

"It is perfectly reasonable for the police to ask you to go to the station with your evidence. I don't see what your problem is to be honest. It's not a 999 type situation is it. You need to bear in mind that the police have to prioritise their time and if visit every person who files a theft report, others who have suffered much more serious crimes will be left waiting.

Your comment about them eating donuts while you do their work is offensive ."

Ahhh I see ..

So I have to use my time, and do their job makes me wonder why I go to work to pay for a service that I'm now providing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh also.. in the 2 and half years it took for my case to go through to sentencing, i often went to the station myself even though they offered to come and collect something from me, but why would they need to waste their time doing something i can easily do myself and drop it to the station.. ??

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By *tella HeelsTV/TS
over a year ago

west here ford shire

Your comment about them eating donuts while you do their work is offensive ."

I agree with you, you’re expecting everyone to do things for you, life’s not like that.. get off your arse and take the evidence to the local police station!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Your comment about them eating donuts while you do their work is offensive .

Ahhh I see ..

So I have to use my time, and do their job makes me wonder why I go to work to pay for a service that I'm now providing.

Do you worry about getting shot or stabbed when you go to work?

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By *good-being-bad OP Man
over a year ago

mis-types and auto corrects leads cock leeds

"I do have faith in the police. I’m sure that most people in the police force work hard and do their best. As has been said already the issue is a political one, it’s about lack of funding. If you voted conservative you really can’t complain. "

I didn't vote cvonservative. Does that allow me to complain ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Your comment about them eating donuts while you do their work is offensive .

Ahhh I see ..

So I have to use my time, and do their job makes me wonder why I go to work to pay for a service that I'm now providing.

Wow!! Should all doctors come to you? Should the bank come to you? Are you something special and cant be expected to take responsibility for yourself?

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

Have you changed the locks on your mum's house ?

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By *good-being-bad OP Man
over a year ago

mis-types and auto corrects leads cock leeds

Your comment about them eating donuts while you do their work is offensive .

Ahhh I see ..

So I have to use my time, and do their job makes me wonder why I go to work to pay for a service that I'm now providing.

Do you worry about getting shot or stabbed when you go to work? "

Nope..not a worry I have..

in my own house I've been burgled twice in six years, , van broken into once in the last 12, months, number of police I've seen... 1.

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

Yes, I do have faith in the police.

I've no wish to underplay the aggravation you feel about your mum's neighbour.

But I can well imagine that on the long lost of crimes they deal with every day, a petty theft ranks well below the kind of call they prioritise.

And when their numbers have been cut repeatedly, year after year, the crimes at the bottom of their list inevitably take longer and longer to be addressed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We had a 5k machine part stolen two weeks ago.....reported got a crime number and heard nothing since.

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By *he riverdeep69Couple
over a year ago

North west ish

Are you housebound OP? If not it is perfectly reasonable for you to them. Limited resources mean public services are stretched.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"We had a 5k machine part stolen two weeks ago.....reported got a crime number and heard nothing since."

Because in that situation there isn't really much they can do. Your crime number is given to your insurer for you go be compensated.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Your comment about them eating donuts while you do their work is offensive .

Ahhh I see ..

So I have to use my time, and do their job makes me wonder why I go to work to pay for a service that I'm now providing.

Or you could attend one of the daily knife crimes in West Yorkshire, your choice.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Your comment about them eating donuts while you do their work is offensive .

Ahhh I see ..

So I have to use my time, and do their job makes me wonder why I go to work to pay for a service that I'm now providing.

Do you worry about getting shot or stabbed when you go to work?

Nope..not a worry I have..

in my own house I've been burgled twice in six years, , van broken into once in the last 12, months, number of police I've seen... 1."

Crime is a fact of life sadly. Also a fact is there isnt endless money and resources to be able to stop all crime.

Wouldnt it be great if everyone could just obey the law.

This is why there is so much crime prevention so people can help themselves not become a victim as best they can.

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By *tella HeelsTV/TS
over a year ago

west here ford shire

Your comment about them eating donuts while you do their work is offensive .

Ahhh I see ..

So I have to use my time, and do their job makes me wonder why I go to work to pay for a service that I'm now providing.

Do you worry about getting shot or stabbed when you go to work?

Nope..not a worry I have..

in my own house I've been burgled twice in six years, , van broken into once in the last 12, months, number of police I've seen... 1."

Mmm perhaps move to a nicer area?

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

I have the utmost faith in the police. I had a boardman bike stolen from my back garden not long ago. Reported it, got a crime number and they visited but I was out sadly.

Not had the bike recovered but they were very good when reporting it.

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By *good-being-bad OP Man
over a year ago

mis-types and auto corrects leads cock leeds

"Have you changed the locks on your mum's house ?"

Thatz happening today.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nope they have no interest, I went to my local police station to report an incident, they wouldn’t even let me in the door told me to report it online

which I did and it said someone would be in contact within 48 hours and I have heard nothing that was over 6 months ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Nope they have no interest, I went to my local police station to report an incident, they wouldn’t even let me in the door told me to report it online

which I did and it said someone would be in contact within 48 hours and I have heard nothing that was over 6 months ago

Why have you not chased it?

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Are you housebound OP? If not it is perfectly reasonable for you to them. Limited resources mean public services are stretched. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Your comment about them eating donuts while you do their work is offensive .

Ahhh I see ..

So I have to use my time, and do their job makes me wonder why I go to work to pay for a service that I'm now providing.

Do you worry about getting shot or stabbed when you go to work?

Nope..not a worry I have..

in my own house I've been burgled twice in six years, , van broken into once in the last 12, months, number of police I've seen... 1."

Then aren't you lucky.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There are some incredible people that work with the police who are trying to do their best for people every day. But do I have faith in the police system. None at all I'm afraid. I've reported crimes a number of times. The last one, I couldn't even report to a person. I got told it had to be done online and upon hitting submit was told it wouldn't be taken further, despite there being the opportunity to have collected forensic evidence, which whilst I could tell them exactly what they needed to collect, I am not personally equipped to do.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Imagine having a job where you’re threatened, spat at almost every day, where you work long hours and often without a break and when you do members of the public moan about you sitting around eating doughnuts.... it a thankless task

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Nope they have no interest, I went to my local police station to report an incident, they wouldn’t even let me in the door told me to report it online

which I did and it said someone would be in contact within 48 hours and I have heard nothing that was over 6 months ago

What was the incident?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its frustrating when perhaps the one interaction with them doesnt go as planned.

But essentially people blame the Police for events which are totally beyond their control.

We dont approve of firm action, then complain they're too soft. We complain they dont do anything, then complain when they do.

Cuts, constant criticism by media and ministers and society as a whole shape the service. They dont get it perfect, but without them things would be a lot worse. We only see the tip of what they do.

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By *ittleAcornMan
over a year ago

visiting the beach

"Nope they have no interest, I went to my local police station to report an incident, they wouldn’t even let me in the door told me to report it online

which I did and it said someone would be in contact within 48 hours and I have heard nothing that was over 6 months ago

Again, it's simply the best use of time.

Having someone sitting at the door waiting for you to report your crime is hideously inefficient.

The Web page is always there and ready.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've only ever had good experiences with them and I can't fault them.

I'm sorry that happened to your mum and you feel let down by the police. I just think they are under a huge amount of pressure and it's probably easier for you to go to them as they will have higher priorities that need urgent attention and as much of their presence as possible. I hope it gets sorted and you get some justice!

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By *rittaMan
over a year ago

Watford

Im all honesty not a lot of faith in them they seem to be more keen on being the big man and imposing authority rather than solving the problems.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Im all honesty not a lot of faith in them they seem to be more keen on being the big man and imposing authority rather than solving the problems. "

Unfortunately for some they have a bad experience.

But for the main, those who have a low opinion, I've found, are simply folk who've been brought up to believe they represent something bad or they themselves got caught doing something!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Im all honesty not a lot of faith in them they seem to be more keen on being the big man and imposing authority rather than solving the problems. "

The British police are actually very polite. I lived in the USA for ten years. The police there are very different. Check out the difference between the UK version and the USA version of "cops". I have no idea how the British police do it. They clearly work hard and are under resourced and are subject to all sorts of soft Liberal policies that allow them to get abuse yelled at them and spat at. I would not agree the British police are 'imposing authority'. Far from it. I would give the British police much harsher powers.

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity

I stopped some spotty little fuckwits from stealing my bike last year and got attacked with a hammer for my troubles. It was on CCTV , I reported it , nothing , nada , fuck all , so I gave up .

I just hope that hasn't caused them to carry on and really hurt someone

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By *manaWoman
over a year ago

Basingstoke

They do a very difficult job for little recognition and pay.

So yes. I have faith.

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By *ohohoWoman
over a year ago

Up North

"There are some incredible people that work with the police who are trying to do their best for people every day. But do I have faith in the police system. None at all I'm afraid. "

I agree with this. It’s a hard job being hampered by understaffing and politics.

Sorry to hear about your mother OP. I hope she is okay.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Your comment about them eating donuts while you do their work is offensive ."

Would you ask Doctor amd nurse to come to your house if you cut ur hand. No you'd go A&E. Go Police station. Take copy of video and show them..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes.

They're doing they're job as well as they possibly can while dealing with the cutbacks that they've been hammered with for years, as well as the abuse they get from people who either can't get their heads around that fact or just have a bone to pick with them for some reason.

As for your issue OP: You have the evidence, the crime isn't a blue light emergency, they've given you the option to speak to someone at the station, and you've clearly got time on your hands. I'm not sure what you're expecting them to do?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"And there in a nutshell is the true cost of austerity and police cuts. They have no resources. Dont blame the police blame the tories and the lib dems for a decade of cuts"

Lets not forget Labour.. or you choosing to ignore them..

Conservatives, Labour, have let this country down for decades.. don't just blame one Government

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Your comment about them eating donuts while you do their work is offensive .

Ahhh I see ..

So I have to use my time, and do their job makes me wonder why I go to work to pay for a service that I'm now providing.

Want someone to cut your food up and eat it for you as well.. bet you loved when you could use a TV remote control and didnt have to get up and change channel..

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By *ed-monkeyCouple
over a year ago

Hailsham

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By *ed-monkeyCouple
over a year ago

Hailsham

"And there in a nutshell is the true cost of austerity and police cuts. They have no resources. Dont blame the police blame the tories and the lib dems for a decade of cuts

Lets not forget Labour.. or you choosing to ignore them..

Conservatives, Labour, have let this country down for decades.. don't just blame one Government"

One government spends and spends until they can't control the debt, new government comes in and have to curb the spending... it's a perpetual cycle

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

I think they are trying to do their best with ever dwindling resources and lack of support from police leaders and politicians and the public. Politicians are often the ones prioritising their work. I would rather police investigate a burglary than an online comment. It is not just the cutbacks on policing that has hurt them. Other cuts mean that they are expected to be social workers, mental health workers, the fire brigade and do their own job. I think they are overworked, stressed and have seen, like others, their pay and conditions eroded under governments. Do I have faith? Dwindling faith but some faith nevertheless.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not 100%

We got burgled in the middle of the afternoon, basically they just walked up and smashed the front door in, my wife want out at 1:30 I got home about 2:20 and in that time they had completely destroyed our home and of course stolen quite a lot of stuff,

I called the police at 2:30 and they told me not to enter the house, but to wait for them outside good advice you would think, however not when the police didn't actually turn up until after 5:30 over two hours later, I rang them about an hour after the the first call to see what the hold up was? Considering the bastards might still be in the house, and they told me the police officer who would be attending "was finishing some paper work"

I shit you not that's what she said

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By *ilkand2Couple
over a year ago

edinburgh

"Yes, I have a lot of faith in them, since I've worked in the policing sector for 16 years and see how bloody hard they work. "

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

Priorities...something you can report at a station yourself is lower down on the list of them

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

The police and the NHS are in the same boat.

Absolutely first-class when life is threatened - they'll pull out of every stop to protect life and limb.

In a crisis, absolute heroes.

The routine, mundane stuff? They don't have the time or the resources to deal with it all the way they would like.

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

When I was burgled my neighbour had film footage and vehicle details. Spend literally over an hour on the engaged reporting line. They turned up three days later but to be fair they were good as gold after that...

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By *oppolocosTV/TS
over a year ago

inverurie

Resources mean there's just not enough police to investigate all crimes. Last year wife and I witnessed a road accident and had to give statements. Offered to go to local police station, but they said it would be more convenient to come to us. When the two police officers arrived around 7pm and we got chatting found they were the only two officers on duty for the entire area which covers around 100 square miles plus. Legal requirements also mean two officers have to take the statement and we had to give them separately so the only two officers on duty were tied up with us for about an hour. People want more police on duty, but don't want to have the tax raises necessary to pay for them, same with NHS. They're too happy to believe the shit that somehow "efficiency" saving s can provide all those extra resources.

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By *a LunaWoman
over a year ago

South Wales

"So I posted a thread yesterday about a lady stealing momney from my disabled mothers house. I have the thieving bitch on video doing it..yippee I thought, so I rang the police reported and the response I've had..

Police visit to view the video take the thief in for questioning .. nooooo.

Ploice visit to see the video ..nooooo.

I had a phone call asking me..yeah thats right ..me to go to the station to discuss my report.

Errrr.. my response ..

why not come to the house see the video and then you can go and see the thieving bitch who lives next door.

I get the sense they'd like me to invrstigate collect the evidence (i have) and go and take the thief in cuffs to the station having done all of their job while they carry on eating doughnuts.

Thieves must be laughing all the way to the bank.

We deal with this a lot on behalf of our Service Users and the Police are pretty good at coming out and viewing the footage and acting accordingly. In fact if there is no video camera in place they have actually set up cameras for a month and review them (if they suspect the folk will be back, and they usually do).

Does your mum have a Social Worker? Carers? You could mention it to the Social Workers and they might be a bit more pro active in getting the Police to action it. I’d also stop the neighbour having access to the house. Get a CCTV sticker and shoce it in the window of the door or where visible.

Get one of them doorbell cameras and also keep a camera in the room where the money is kept.

Don’t tell the neighbour where the camera is. I wouldn’t even tell your mum, because if she trusts this lady she’ll think you are being over protective and tell her.

I would mention to the neighbour that you’re concerned as money has gone missing and that you have spoken to the Police about. The Police are putting cameras in. She’ll probably cack herself.

Keep all evidence. Take it to the Police for review. Keep logs of money withdrawn and spent.

I would also keep the money kept in the house to an absolute minimum.

Probably all stuff you already do/know, but it won’t hurt.

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool

That's odd. When I had to give a police statement I was given the option of going to a station of having them come to my house. I chose for them to come to my house. I guess it must depend where you live but I'd be surprised if Merseyside police had vastly more resources than others.

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool

"And there in a nutshell is the true cost of austerity and police cuts. They have no resources. Dont blame the police blame the tories and the lib dems for a decade of cuts

Lets not forget Labour.. or you choosing to ignore them..

Conservatives, Labour, have let this country down for decades.. don't just blame one Government

One government spends and spends until they can't control the debt, new government comes in and have to curb the spending... it's a perpetual cycle"

The last Labour government was in purplus for years before the financial crash. Since then we've just been getting into deeper and deeper debt every year.

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool

"And there in a nutshell is the true cost of austerity and police cuts. They have no resources. Dont blame the police blame the tories and the lib dems for a decade of cuts

Lets not forget Labour.. or you choosing to ignore them..

Conservatives, Labour, have let this country down for decades.. don't just blame one Government

One government spends and spends until they can't control the debt, new government comes in and have to curb the spending... it's a perpetual cycle

The last Labour government was in purplus for years before the financial crash. Since then we've just been getting into deeper and deeper debt every year."

*surplus

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By *ed-monkeyCouple
over a year ago

Hailsham

"And there in a nutshell is the true cost of austerity and police cuts. They have no resources. Dont blame the police blame the tories and the lib dems for a decade of cuts

Lets not forget Labour.. or you choosing to ignore them..

Conservatives, Labour, have let this country down for decades.. don't just blame one Government

One government spends and spends until they can't control the debt, new government comes in and have to curb the spending... it's a perpetual cycle

The last Labour government was in purplus for years before the financial crash. Since then we've just been getting into deeper and deeper debt every year."

It wasn't a comment on the current cycle, just generally, labour governments have spent, other labour governments have saved, similarly, conservative governments have spent, conservative governments have saved. I haven't been alive long enough to know a liberal government

It is just a cycle that can't really be attributed to one faction

It is however all too easy to blame a frugal government, when the damage was done by a different frivolous one, throughout recent history, and probably further back

Anyway .. apologies for getting slightly political, normal service will be resumed

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By *a Fee VerteWoman
over a year ago

Limbo

OP, I'm very sorry to hear about what happened to your mum. Obviously you're rightly very angry and upset. Nonetheless, as things stand you have the choice of taking things further at the station, in which case there is a chance further action may be taken, or, you do nothing except moan about 'the police' in which case there's no possibility of justice being served.

(The doughnut remark is offensive by the way and ridiculous).

Of course in an ideal world, all manner of crime would receive a prompt and thorough response, at minimum inconvenience to the public but there simply aren't the resources to do that currently. Nor have there been for many years due to the deliberate loss of c. 20,000 officers, as well as many back office support staff roles and the closure of countless stations, which has undoubtedly contributed to increasing crime levels (amongst other factors) and public frustration with the service. I am close to serving police officers and believe me they are just as frustrated as you are at being unable to perform their duties as they'd wish to.... as well as being exhausted, frightened, very severely stressed and furious at the (avoidable) danger a lack of resources regularly puts them in. They are not only struggling to manage what might be described as 'traditional' police tasks, but are also having to 'mop up' all manner of other problems which other public agencies would once have dealt with because, guess what, support for those have also been withdrawn. Consequently, very difficult choices often have to be made about prioritisation and best use of remaining resources.

It's not 'the police' you should be angry at. It's the system (or government) which has created the (in)perfect storm of service cuts *and* social policies that invariably make crime more likely to occur and less likely to be dealt with appropriately, or at all. The best thing anyone who's unhappy about our police service can do is to think long and hard about casting their vote wisely on 12 December for the party they *trust* to keep their word to try to turn things round (as opposed to the party you feel decimated the service). And in the meantime, I do feel that regardless of feeling frustrated with the system, and irrespective of 'why should we have to? ' we (the public) should be doing what we can to assist the police because... you know.... half an hour or so of my time travelling to meet them is almost certainly less valuable than half an hour of theirs spent on 'admin' coming to see me when there's all manner of far more serious crime it could be used for instead.

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over a year ago

I Absolutely DO NOT trust police

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool

"And there in a nutshell is the true cost of austerity and police cuts. They have no resources. Dont blame the police blame the tories and the lib dems for a decade of cuts

Lets not forget Labour.. or you choosing to ignore them..

Conservatives, Labour, have let this country down for decades.. don't just blame one Government

One government spends and spends until they can't control the debt, new government comes in and have to curb the spending... it's a perpetual cycle

The last Labour government was in purplus for years before the financial crash. Since then we've just been getting into deeper and deeper debt every year.

It is just a cycle that can't really be attributed to one faction

It is however all too easy to blame a frugal government, when the damage was done by a different frivolous one, throughout recent history, and probably further back

Anyway .. apologies for getting slightly political, normal service will be resumed

Ahh I see what you mean. Sorry I was confused because of the comment you were responding to as well as probably assuming due to the fact most people seem to blame Labour for us getting into debt. You're quite right that historically we have gone through cycles about every decade of borrowing followed by a period of being in surplus. However we currently haven't had any surplus for 18 years. Probably why the country is so buggered

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By *ed-monkeyCouple
over a year ago

Hailsham

"And there in a nutshell is the true cost of austerity and police cuts. They have no resources. Dont blame the police blame the tories and the lib dems for a decade of cuts

Lets not forget Labour.. or you choosing to ignore them..

Conservatives, Labour, have let this country down for decades.. don't just blame one Government

One government spends and spends until they can't control the debt, new government comes in and have to curb the spending... it's a perpetual cycle

The last Labour government was in purplus for years before the financial crash. Since then we've just been getting into deeper and deeper debt every year.

It is just a cycle that can't really be attributed to one faction

It is however all too easy to blame a frugal government, when the damage was done by a different frivolous one, throughout recent history, and probably further back

Anyway .. apologies for getting slightly political, normal service will be resumed

Kiss... there ... back to normal service

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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago

Travelling

" Its frustrating when perhaps the one interaction with them doesnt go as planned.

But essentially people blame the Police for events which are totally beyond their control.

We dont approve of firm action, then complain they're too soft. We complain they dont do anything, then complain when they do.

Cuts, constant criticism by media and ministers and society as a whole shape the service. They dont get it perfect, but without them things would be a lot worse. We only see the tip of what they do. "

This sums it up.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We had a problem with a neighbour stealing money from my family member with dementia, had evidence but unfortunately due to the dementia it couldn't be proven that it hasn't been given as a gift.

I wasn't happy with the decision and I dont think giving a special constable the job was the best idea, they didn't seem empathetic and probably wanted to go something more exciting.

However, I am very sure karma will come their way

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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago

Travelling

"OP, I'm very sorry to hear about what happened to your mum. Obviously you're rightly very angry and upset. Nonetheless, as things stand you have the choice of taking things further at the station, in which case there is a chance further action may be taken, or, you do nothing except moan about 'the police' in which case there's no possibility of justice being served.

(The doughnut remark is offensive by the way and ridiculous).

Also this!

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By *on_mclaneMan
over a year ago

manchester

Non what so ever, walking my dog few weeks ago 2 college students had the phones snatched and then beat up off 3 lads on bikes, another passer by rung the police and it took them 50 minutes to turn up

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By *iamond coupleCouple
over a year ago

leeds

Do I have faith in police ? NO

Do I trust police ? NO

Do police lie ? YES

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Do I have faith in police ? NO

Do I trust police ? NO

Do police lie ? YES"

That's a rather sweeping generalisation.

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By *good-being-bad OP Man
over a year ago

mis-types and auto corrects leads cock leeds

(The doughnut remark is offensive by the way and ridiculous).

Also this! "

We are all stretched, trust me as a bloke who is a carer for his disabled mother I know about being stretched there really aren't enough hours in my day at times,

1/2 hour. It will take me depending on traffic 45-60 minutes to drive to the station., so the 1/2 hour in effect will be nearer two. This week I have things that need to be completed by tomorrow, my mothers house needs adaptations to enable her discharge from hospital (thats tomorrow) social services are stretched and can't help or have them done in time .. so its down to ...lets think who ..yeah thats me again . If not completed errr yeah disabled ninety year old in a house thats unready.

Locks changing.. oh wait yeah thats me or the thieving bitch might be back. My things to do list is pretty full. Time, lend me a few hours someone please

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over a year ago

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

I can understand if the baddies in life who have been put before courts etc will not say anything nice about the police. In the old days I wonder if the criminals respected the police like the Lag called Fletcher in the documentary Porridge.

If you are a cat burglar and your collar is felt by the plod it should be remembered that the police are working on behalf of the public in that area. All good citizens should support our boys in blue

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By *a Fee VerteWoman
over a year ago

Limbo

It's far too simplistic to deduce that non, or late, attendance by the police equates to a lack of concern, responsibility or care. As explained repeatedly up thread, that's a resource issue and one that's very often beyond the control of individual officers.

Similarly, bemoaning the calibre of officers who *do* attend calls can also be attributed to resources. Invariably more experienced officers will often be deployed to more serious or complicated crimes when short staffed.

As for 'something more exciting' I can assure you that most Specials join up because they want to make a worthwhile contribution to their community and/or society more generally. I'm not sure that excitement is at the forefront of their minds. Though they're not protected from exposure to appalling, gruesome and upsetting scenes on occasion if that's anyone's idea of excitement. Sometimes first on scene, solo, in their own time remember, and unpaid.

Sure, no one's forced to join the police, either as a regular or as a volunteer but I'm very glad there are people who put themselves out there to (in most cases) do the best they can under extremely difficult circumstances.

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By *a Fee VerteWoman
over a year ago

Limbo

(The doughnut remark is offensive by the way and ridiculous).

Also this!

We are all stretched, trust me as a bloke who is a carer for his disabled mother I know about being stretched there really aren't enough hours in my day at times,

Locks changing.. oh wait yeah thats me or the thieving bitch might be back. My things to do list is pretty full. Time, lend me a few hours someone please"

Please don't think I'm not sympathetic to your situation. And as individuals, most officers would be too. Your experience is symptomatic of the whole damn mess this country's in where seamless, interwoven support for vulnerable people like your mum would, in an ideal world, be readily available. So... she'd get the help from Social Services that probably would have been pretty much automatic 15 or 20 years ago and you'd be able to report the crime she's suffered quickly and without fuss in a home visit.

But... you know.... resources. Cuts. Austerity. Etc. And there are unfortunately countless people in genuine need of help from various public services who won't get it because there isn't enough to go round any more. Something has to give and disgracefully it's very often those least able to ask for assistance who suffer most.

I'm sorry you've been let down. Of course as a carer your time is valuable. But the police can't distinguish between the value of your time and that of many others with similar needs. Under current working conditions the only fair thing they can do is ask you to help them if you possibly can so the time they'd have spent travelling can be designated to more serious crime. I do appreciate that your mum's case is serious to you, I hope you know what I mean. It's crap, but the police aren't at fault.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

nope no faith,bike crash few years ago and while at the scene the cop said he will recover the bike for me,I went to hospital and he decided not to recover the bike and not tell me.while in the hospital it was stolen.I had only 3rd part insurance at the time( my fault yes) I chased this up and had to speak to higher officers and was not suprised when they stuck up for their own with a reply of "i know officer so and so personally and he would not have done that" yeah whatever.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"And there in a nutshell is the true cost of austerity and police cuts. They have no resources. Dont blame the police blame the tories and the lib dems for a decade of cuts"

100% agree

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes I do.

I work at the north end of London Bridge. Not so long ago there was a terrorist attack just the other side of the bridge in Borough Market. While the public was running north, the Police, and others, were heading south to deal with the situation. As far as I remember no one was complaining then.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don’t know if faith is the right word..but I always hope sting and the rest the guys can bring it back

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

"And there in a nutshell is the true cost of austerity and police cuts. They have no resources. Dont blame the police blame the tories and the lib dems for a decade of cuts

I fear that if this current Labour get in then the Plod will truly be an agent of the state. They will become the thought police forced to enforce truly shackling laws..

When the clean out there own party then the public will be next... Liberal Faschism at it finest Comrade...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The funding to the police is the problem it’s not the officers themselves

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By *evil_u_knowMan
over a year ago

city

Its the officers themselves. Funding means they might not be able to visit every house, and might try ask as many as possible to visit the police station.

But they can be more empathic about it.

"Good evening sir. In order to progress with your report as quickly as possible would you be able to attend the police station with the footage so that we can progress as quickly as possible. If this is not satisfactory there may be a delay in visiting your house, and if you can let us know times you will be available for an officer to visit"

thats all people want.

I find that the cops know most of these cases go nowhere and cant be bothered with them, and look for the first excuse they can to drop them.

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over a year ago

"Its the officers themselves. Funding means they might not be able to visit every house, and might try ask as many as possible to visit the police station.

But they can be more empathic about it.

thats all people want.

I find that the cops know most of these cases go nowhere and cant be bothered with them, and look for the first excuse they can to drop them."

Is that based on research or an individual experience?

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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland

While in the UK recently, I had to report some suspiciously acting youngsters and have experienced policing at its best, including the local support officer.

I have had to call the police on probably half a dozen different occasions over the past 10 years and I could not praise them enough for the work, especially in light of tory austerity. In my view, they are doing the best they can and do not need more stress from the people they are protecting. Same applies to the NHS and Fire Service.

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

I fear that if this current Labour get in then the Plod will truly be an agent of the state. They will become the thought police forced to enforce truly shackling laws..

When the clean out there own party then the public will be next... Liberal Faschism at it finest Comrade...

Winston Churchill in the 1945 general election said exactly the same thing - a victory for Labour would mean the Gestapo policing Britain.

Complete bollocks, and the voters gave his arse a good kicking.

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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland

I fear that if this current Labour get in then the Plod will truly be an agent of the state. They will become the thought police forced to enforce truly shackling laws..

When the clean out there own party then the public will be next... Liberal Faschism at it finest Comrade...

Winston Churchill in the 1945 general election said exactly the same thing - a victory for Labour would mean the Gestapo policing Britain.

Complete bollocks, and the voters gave his arse a good kicking.

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By *ittleAcornMan
over a year ago

visiting the beach

"And there in a nutshell is the true cost of austerity and police cuts. They have no resources. Dont blame the police blame the tories and the lib dems for a decade of cuts

I fear that if this current Labour get in then the Plod will truly be an agent of the state. They will become the thought police forced to enforce truly shackling laws..

When the clean out there own party then the public will be next... Liberal Faschism at it finest Comrade...

Just because you "fear" it, doesn't make it true.

Try to base your comments on fact and you might be taken seriously.

Talking of cleaning out parties, how many Tories had the whip removed recently?

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

They are doing a thankless job where their lives are at risk everyday. I've never had a bad experience with the police, everytime there's been a crime where they were needed immediately they have come. The not so serious crimes are understandably pushed to the bottom of the pile, if there's unlikely to be a prosecution it isn't worth investigating, it's crap but that's how it is. They are underpaid and overworked.

If it's that important to you, you'd stop being petulant and go to the station.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

At the end of the day it's the justice system that needs to change.

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By *evil_u_knowMan
over a year ago

city

"Its the officers themselves. Funding means they might not be able to visit every house, and might try ask as many as possible to visit the police station.

But they can be more empathic about it.

thats all people want.

I find that the cops know most of these cases go nowhere and cant be bothered with them, and look for the first excuse they can to drop them.

Is that based on research or an individual experience? "

I have only one experience with the police personally, someone mugged me and then tried to run me over with a car.

It gave me a very low opinion of people in general more so than the police.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Its the officers themselves. Funding means they might not be able to visit every house, and might try ask as many as possible to visit the police station.

But they can be more empathic about it.

thats all people want.

I find that the cops know most of these cases go nowhere and cant be bothered with them, and look for the first excuse they can to drop them.

Is that based on research or an individual experience?

I have only one experience with the police personally, someone mugged me and then tried to run me over with a car.

It gave me a very low opinion of people in general more so than the police."

And that's pretty crap that you had such a poor service. I guess its difficult to persuade people who've suffered that, that it's not indicative of all those in the role.

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By *rjimMan
over a year ago

nr bristol

Trust the police ?

You must be joking.

No shortage of police investigating so called "hate crime " on line; or radar speed traps.(money making scams)

Have a look on You tube at a guy called Crimebodge.(and others)

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By *aughtycouple1008Couple
over a year ago

west london

Bad experience with police. Very bad....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"While in the UK recently, I had to report some suspiciously acting youngsters and have experienced policing at its best, including the local support officer.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Snitches

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I was broken into recently and the police were brilliant . From the officers who initially came to the house right through to the break in team. They caught the person in action thanks to my neighbours CCTV and even returned some of our items . Everyone I dealt with was friendly, helpful and cared about their work .

I knew in the grand scheme of things they were probably also dealing with that ours wasn't a very high value crime , yet they still worked hard to deal with the case quickly.

Can't fault them at all.

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By *otsossieMan
over a year ago

local, but not too local

They were great when I was in an accident but utterly ineffective at dealing with vandalism and antisocial behaviour despite photo and video evidence and knowing who did it.

So pretty mixed.

They were helpful and sympathetic but seemed unable to convict.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have faith in the Police yes! They have always been amazing with me when I have needed them

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By *aul DeUther-OneMan
over a year ago

Sussex

Your comment about them eating donuts while you do their work is offensive .

I agree with you, you’re expecting everyone to do things for you, life’s not like that.. get off your arse and take the evidence to the local police station!"

Or... write a stern 'anonymous' note to the offender to let them know that they have been witnessed committing a crime on your mother and that they should stay away from her and her home from now on.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Police officer said to me 4 years ago: "We're here to protect you." after I wasn't sure I wanted to have a guy arrested when he threatened to harm me in my workplace.

But I gave it a second thought and I agreed. It took them 3 months but he finally went to court and got a sentence.

Thankfully I haven't seen him since. God only knows if he's learnt his lesson.

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By *al01Man
over a year ago

solihull

I lost alot of faith in police over the years.

About 10 years ago on way back from a 1am finish at work a bunch of twats pulled over and threatened me with an axe. They drove off as cars were commin up the road i walked round the corner and spotted a police car. Went and told em what had happened. The response was " well maybe next time u shudnt go down there.".!!

2 years ago got hot by a guy in an unisured untaxed and non MOT'd car he also had no licence. Xar rear seat was full of drugs and 2 large machettes.

Took pucs of car driver and all the rest .

Police resonded in writting

"Warrents no further action and let the insurance company deal with it"

When i flipped out and said i will cat h the fucker and deal with myself they said they would arrest me for making threats.!!

No faith at all now. And to think i always wanted to join the police when i was younger

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By *hechapMan
over a year ago

Derry

They dont want to be bothered.

I bet even when you go with the evidence they will come up with some sort of shite that the video wont stand up in court and that you shouldnt have filmed the thieving bastard.

Unless its motoring offences and revenue collection they wont be interested....

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By *aughtycouple1008Couple
over a year ago

west london

They tried to do me for attempted murder wen in fact I was saving a guys life....it went to crown court and within one minute of me in the dock..the judge called the cps and police officer and had a go at them and apologised to me and said you may go....it suffered mentally for six months while the case was going on and I was innocent. I don't like the police anymore

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There's no way I would trust uk police.

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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL

No not really.

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By *hatawasteMan
over a year ago

stafford

Well generally yes I do .they work bloody hard and have to as change their ways of working all the time to try to cover for shortages in staff .

Not an easy job either when you think about it . Truth is if you aren't a criminal you shouldn't fear them and hopefully when you need them there will be enough money invested in them to make sure at least one can come and see you .. up till very recently that was a bit of a lottery !

you could argue if a certain political party had not axed 20,000 of them ..things might have been easier over the last few years as far as sheer numbers were concerned ?

Clearly they have suddenly recognised the error of their ways now though it seems and they want to give them back to us ..

So that's alright then .. probably

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By *hatawasteMan
over a year ago

stafford

"And there in a nutshell is the true cost of austerity and police cuts. They have no resources. Dont blame the police blame the tories and the lib dems for a decade of cuts

Erm no ??

I fear that if this current Labour get in then the Plod will truly be an agent of the state. They will become the thought police forced to enforce truly shackling laws..

When the clean out there own party then the public will be next... Liberal Faschism at it finest Comrade...

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

I truly fear what the police might become if JC gets his way

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

This is classic stereotypeing..

One bad cop does not represent them all..

When someone says to me that they hate all cops.. I say that I hate all vets... That seems to confuse them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I truly fear what the police might become if JC gets his way"

They'll be exactly what they always have been.

Generally used by a section of the public to get what they want when they aren't happy, utilised by the government but mainly just upholding the peace,mopping up the poor wretched souls and being the last resort for many.

Governments dont influence who they are. They are people living in our communities!

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By *lue_dogMan
over a year ago

Littlehampton

"And there in a nutshell is the true cost of austerity and police cuts. They have no resources. Dont blame the police blame the tories and the lib dems for a decade of cuts"

*applause

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

If someone vulnerable is at risk, I believe that they ought to and probably would have attended. I didn't see the original post, just this one.

I generally support and have faith in the police, even if not all of their more senior management. As others point out, those who have voted for the Conservatives have helped to ensure that the regular majority of the population have been paying the price for the substantial £multi-billion financial costs that the Conservatives decided to saddle you with. Will we ever recover from that? I'm doubtful - especially as if we brexit, the majority of the population is likely to continue in austerity-like conditions for many years.

If we'd not had Conservative imposed cuts to the police and other state services, it's more feasible that staff would have been able to spend time at the home where the crime happened.

As it's certainly a constraint to have to visit a station that may not even be that local or convenient any more, I wonder if they'd be able to accept an electronically delivered video, to start their investigation.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

"I truly fear what the police might become if JC gets his way"

Read their manifesto. JC seems to me to be a dedicated, principled man, determined to improve life for the majority of the population, many of whom have had severe financial penalties imposed on them by the governments since 2010.

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

Austerity was caused by the excesses of the past ..

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By *ittleAcornMan
over a year ago

visiting the beach

"Austerity was caused by the excesses of the past ..

No it wasn't.

It was a political decision imposed my a party keen to turn back the clock.

The event that gave them the opportunity was a GLOBAL financial crisis (partly caused by right wing weakening of regulation).

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"And there in a nutshell is the true cost of austerity and police cuts. They have no resources. Dont blame the police blame the tories and the lib dems for a decade of cuts"

Firstly oif course they have 'resources'. Maybe if they didn't blow £ Mns on tryiong to be Politically Correct and wasting thousands of hours on crap like Operation Midland (driven by one Tom Watson) they would have more Officers and money for front line operations.

Now this country hasn't seen 'austerity' since WWII. And I notice you blame the two parties that had to rescue this country's economy in 2010 from the £145 Bn a year deficit they inherited from Labour. So why don't you blame the culprits not those who had the job of fixing the problems? Possibly because you are a Labour voter in a General Election campaign?

And by 'cuts' you really mean (as all those on the Left do) 'no increases' and play the inflation game? there was always money to pay Officers but they refused to control other spending (like buying new BMW cars?)

Post 2009 this country was all but bankrupt with international lenders very 'iffy' about lending us money. We had to get our finances in order and that meant some serious decisions with Defence being particularly badly hit. But needs must.

For the record I am an ex Tory voter, despise the LibDems as currently constituted and despise the antisemitic, Momentum led Marxist Labour Party even more.

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

The toffs will still get rich at the expense of the poor

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

The public just hope there are cops there to help them

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By *arrasicMan
over a year ago

birmingham

"And there in a nutshell is the true cost of austerity and police cuts. They have no resources. Dont blame the police blame the tories and the lib dems for a decade of cuts

For the record I am an ex Tory voter, despise the LibDems as currently constituted and despise the antisemitic, Momentum led Marxist Labour Party even more."

Well seid glad someone remembers this its amazing the short memorie peaple have about labour before 2010 the mess and dept thay left.some peaple have only got a 6 month memorie

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By *hatawasteMan
over a year ago

stafford

I agree ..having worked alongside the police for some time now I will tell you what a Senior police officer said to me one day

So anyone /OP happy to say they dislike/ don't trust the police ..listen up !

' everyone has complete trust in the police at the exact moment that they need them to do something for them !'

Be nice to eachother out there!

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By *adame 2SwordsWoman
over a year ago

Victoria, London

Been really good to me and have been responsive and supportive to me afterwards.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hi all,

Why do people say negative things about the police?

When they are in trouble who do the call first? Definitely not the Ghostbusters.

Police work very hard and have my support and respect. Would be a good idea to actually go to the police station as policing cuts have gotten them understaffed and very challenging to cover everyone’s needs and problems.

Have some respect dude. They work extremely hard. If you think you can do better then why don’t you join them and let’s see you do better.

Your case isn’t a major incident and can wait compared to other cases.

Crime has risen and police could do with the public support. When police are trying to arrest a criminal people take videos and post them online as police brutality. Criminals aren’t ashamed of what they do and won’t hesitate to cause harm to others. Why do people get worked up about police trying to restrain a suspect because they are resisting arrest.

There are so many different cases.

Stop resisting and take it all to court. Police are humans too.

Start by praising them for their bravery and hard work trying to keep us safe.

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By *wingamajigsCouple
over a year ago

Folkestone

"And there in a nutshell is the true cost of austerity and police cuts. They have no resources. Dont blame the police blame the tories and the lib dems for a decade of cuts"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Question, does your video include the conversation where the neighbor was asked to pick up some groceries, using the petty cash in the house to pay for them?

Not saying that is exactly what happened, but it could be. You really dont have any evidence of any crime that is usable. The most the police can do is start an enquiry, which will cost hundreds or thousands of £, for what?

Talk to your mother find out if there was a crime or an arrangement, if there was then secure the premises with new locks and dont give the neighbor access. Also if cash is in the house secure it properly and don't expect the police to cover your stupidity.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just email it to them, I do believe the police back in the UK are much more high tech than over here. Lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes I do and it would be horrific without them! If all you're complaining about is having to go to the police station yourself then I really don't see it? All the time the typing and moaning on this thread you could have gone there and back surely? I am sorry what has happened to your mum, it must have been awful for her but lots of good advice on here for you to do yourself to protect her more in the future ...

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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL

I don't understand your issue about going to the police station with the video to discuss the situation. Forgive me if I'm missing something? If you want it resolved or investigated, what's the problem?

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By *he SurveyorMan
over a year ago

Bury

Grow your own dope, plant a police person.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"And there in a nutshell is the true cost of austerity and police cuts. They have no resources. Dont blame the police blame the tories and the lib dems for a decade of cuts"

Do love these political a comments. We had austerity because if the previous labour government . If the Conservative government hadn't imposed it would have been imposed on us by the EU as they did with Spain Greece and Italy - Yeah the people they want to stay with. With a new labour government austerity will be back. No fan of concervatives and have been a been a victim of crime and treated badly by the police, but I'm don't blame the Conservatives. Police have have become lazy and don't want to be bothered with trivialities these days

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Question, does your video include the conversation where the neighbor was asked to pick up some groceries, using the petty cash in the house to pay for them?

Good points

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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL

"Question, does your video include the conversation where the neighbor was asked to pick up some groceries, using the petty cash in the house to pay for them?

Good points "

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

I remember when an MP on a pushbike had a run in with a cop at the Downing Street gates. Plebgate. After that the Government had the police in their sights. Thats my conspiracy theory.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have absolute faith in the police who deal with far more than just crime these days, they are unofficial social and mental health workers too.

Officers don’t deliberately show up to investigate they have a long list of other priorities

What you should direct your anger to in the lack of police and other resources and also the courts for handing out ridiculous sentences

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I have absolute faith in the police who deal with far more than just crime these days, they are unofficial social and mental health workers too.

Officers don’t deliberately show up to investigate they have a long list of other priorities

What you should direct your anger to in the lack of police and other resources and also the courts for handing out ridiculous sentences

Watched a program the other day on police corruption and how they are abusing their position and taking advantage of vulnerable people. It was a big eye opener, didn't put the police in a good light. Also the irony heads of the anti corrupted department police were found to corrupt

Yes I agree with it is due to the CPS, prison overcrouding, do-gooders and low life lawyers that have given criminals more rights and protection under the law than victims. Made it sooo difficult to prosecute that police don't bother now - just an incident number and over to the insurance company. Easier to do people for speeding lol

Nothing to do with austerity that is just political misinformation.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The Police are a reflection of the society they serve. Where do you think they are recruited from?

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By *ittleAcornMan
over a year ago

visiting the beach

"I have absolute faith in the police who deal with far more than just crime these days, they are unofficial social and mental health workers too.

Officers don’t deliberately show up to investigate they have a long list of other priorities

What you should direct your anger to in the lack of police and other resources and also the courts for handing out ridiculous sentences

Nothing to do with austerity that is just political misinformation. "

So having 20,000 less police officers makes no difference in your opinion.

So why is Boris now promising to replace them (i.e. fix what his party broke)?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I have absolute faith in the police who deal with far more than just crime these days, they are unofficial social and mental health workers too.

Officers don’t deliberately show up to investigate they have a long list of other priorities

What you should direct your anger to in the lack of police and other resources and also the courts for handing out ridiculous sentences

Nothing to do with austerity that is just political misinformation.

So having 20,000 less police officers makes no difference in your opinion.

So why is Boris now promising to replace them (i.e. fix what his party broke)? "

You say his party... all have done there best to do this. Fed up people blamig everything on the recent government.. completely blinkered opinion...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I have absolute faith in the police who deal with far more than just crime these days, they are unofficial social and mental health workers too.

Officers don’t deliberately show up to investigate they have a long list of other priorities

What you should direct your anger to in the lack of police and other resources and also the courts for handing out ridiculous sentences

Nothing to do with austerity that is just political misinformation.

So having 20,000 less police officers makes no difference in your opinion.

So why is Boris now promising to replace them (i.e. fix what his party broke)?

You say his party... all have done there best to do this. Fed up people blamig everything on the recent government.. completely blinkered opinion... "

Every government, regardless of party, has tried to reform the Police Service and reduce costs, which means numbers as @ 80% ofthe costs are staff salaries. Government has a love/hate relationship with the Police because they need them but they resent the power wielded by Chief Officers. This is why they have gradually politicised senior police management and brought in PCCs.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"And there in a nutshell is the true cost of austerity and police cuts. They have no resources. Dont blame the police blame the tories and the lib dems for a decade of cuts"

This 100%!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A lot of politics talked about in this thread, but do you really want to pay £1000's probable a lot of £1000's in tax because the OP spent money on a camera rather than a lock, and filmed what may or may not have been theft of £20?

Police are doing a good job of filtering this nuicience reporting by asking him to come and make a statement.

Doesn't matter what resources there are, it would still be the right course of action to deter silly petty disputes from becoming criminal investigations.

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By *orthern StarsCouple
over a year ago

Durham

Not much faith in the police and even less faith in the justice system.

Criminals get to walk free.

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By *hatawasteMan
over a year ago

stafford

"And there in a nutshell is the true cost of austerity and police cuts. They have no resources. Dont blame the police blame the tories and the lib dems for a decade of cuts

As someone who works with them daily I can tell you that's completely not true!

Fact is there is not enough staff to deal with the ' trivialities' and that is making things very very difficult . People need to think long and hard about what they want from a peacekeeping force ..pen pushing ? Counselling kids whose parents can't be bothered / adults who can't behave responsibly .. or actually go out and catch proper criminals ?

If it's the latter ? Then the only way that works with the current system is if the general public lend a hand .. otherwise with 20,000 less police than we used to have . It simply will not work .

I see it everyday unfortunately

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

I think communities will start self policing if this carries on. I am not against vigilante groups who work within the law..

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

Came home on the bus last night after consuming a bottle of red wine in the pub with my fella.

It's a three-minute walk from the bus stop to me door.

A police car pulled up.

A charming young officer at the wheel enquired as to my wellbeing.

Well, after we'd got over the legal bit - I'm just off the bus because it's better than taking the car when you've consumed as much wine as me - he gives me a police escort at walking speed all the way to my door.

Lovely chap.

Got me thinking.

I saw the uniform at first and my instants were primed to respond to the uniform. By the end of the conversation, I saw the person.

Well done Avon and Somerset coppers.

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

* instincts, not instants

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The police are not employed to protect civilian interests only corporate ones. Where have all the local bobbies gone ? Do they even exist anymore ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Came home on the bus last night after consuming a bottle of red wine in the pub with my fella.

It's a three-minute walk from the bus stop to me door.

A police car pulled up.

A charming young officer at the wheel enquired as to my wellbeing.

Lovely chap.

Got me thinking.

I saw the uniform at first and my instants were primed to respond to the uniform. By the end of the conversation, I saw the person.

Well done Avon and Somerset coppers.

Thing is, when people say "I hate the Police", they're pretty much stating they hate the public.

Theres no Police egg they hatch from. They come from your community where theres good and bad.

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

Thing is, when people say "I hate the Police", they're pretty much stating they hate the public.

Theres no Police egg they hatch from. They come from your community where theres good and bad."

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

Well to be fair it takes a certain type of person to join up and most that I have met are social misfits.. but to fair I have only met a few

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich

Police visit to view the video take the thief in for questioning .. nooooo.

Ploice visit to see the video ..nooooo.

I had a phone call asking me..yeah thats right ..me to go to the station to discuss my report.

Errrr.. my response ..

why not come to the house see the video and then you can go and see the thieving bitch who lives next door.

I get the sense they'd like me to invrstigate collect the evidence (i have) and go and take the thief in cuffs to the station having done all of their job while they carry on eating doughnuts.

Thieves must be laughing all the way to the bank.

Just upset someone of Facebook. They will be round in minutes.

Mob handed!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have no faith in the police very aggressive were I live so have no time for them but I bet if you went next door they'd turn up in force feel your pain

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

When they fining to others, yes.

When they fining me I believe that they are against me !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Police visit to view the video take the thief in for questioning .. nooooo.

Ploice visit to see the video ..nooooo.

I had a phone call asking me..yeah thats right ..me to go to the station to discuss my report.

Errrr.. my response ..

why not come to the house see the video and then you can go and see the thieving bitch who lives next door.

I get the sense they'd like me to invrstigate collect the evidence (i have) and go and take the thief in cuffs to the station having done all of their job while they carry on eating doughnuts.

Thieves must be laughing all the way to the bank.

What happened to the neighbour?

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

Most people who fear of slag off the police are usually crooks in my opinion

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

None at all after i did a thread about the dog bite a relative had after we got cctv and witnesses still that wasnt enough 1st they sent a pcso who filled report wrong saying a bite that requires surgery is minor and lost the cctv mem stick

Then warden came said dog was to live not enough evidence even tho u can see the attack clear

Then after kicking off police re intetviwed anf only gave a 3 month community order to owner fucking joke they are id sooner go back to rye for en eye laws fuck these pussy cops useless

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Report this to social services also op. Take the evidence to the station and make your mothers home secure. I’d also tell every member of the community about this weather it’s frowned upon or not. The elderly need protection from people like this.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The police are cunts generally.

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By *itty9899Man
over a year ago

Craggy Island

They couldn't solve cluedo, with out doing a press conference and being told it the dodgy uncle.

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By *oodoodMan
over a year ago

Suffolk / Essex borders

Nah Sting and Copeland hate each other too much

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The police are cunts generally."

About the same proportion of cunts in the police as in the general population.

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By *rotic-TouchTV/TS
over a year ago

doncaster

The police do a great job within the resources they have at they disposal , I have lots of faith police officers , damned if they do and damned if they don't !!

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By *hickennchipsWoman
over a year ago

up above the streets and houses

Yes I do, I was married to a policeman and saw how hard he worked, the injuries he sustained and helped to comfort the distress and anxiety he suffered

Blame the system, not the people...

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By *ENGUYMan
over a year ago

Hull

Within my employment choices over the past 20 years, I've supported all Emergency Services, especially the Police

In my current job, Police officers know they can pop in overnight for a cuppa, or use our toilet facilities.

It's a two way thing, as they bring me up to date with local criminal activity (eg, shoplifters or people to watch out for) but if we have issues, they're very quick to help us out!

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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge

all of you slagging the police off just remember when you are running away from danger they are the ones running towards it to protect you and yours . just look at the video ofvthe brave police officer on manchester victoria tackling the knife man last year

we have just about the best Police force in the world it may not be perfect but they do a damn good job for little apreciation every day

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By *hatYorkLadMan
over a year ago

York

They've got a tough job and having friends in the police I know what they're up against, dealing with the worst scum in society day in day out plus all the pisshead trouble makers on a weekend or being first on scene at horrific accidents or murders and having to tell their families that person is dead, it really takes its toll on them.

That said I got a severe beating from a gang of youths for no reason on Christmas eve 7 or 8 years ago and all I got was a crime number and heard no more about it, despite it being in the middle of a main street with cameras everywhere!

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By *tudiousPipWoman
over a year ago

W Yorks

It's not just police cuts that affects police efficiency. It's all the little cuts too that means the seams of our society are fraying.

A few weeks ago there were 14 police officers in our local A&E. 7 pairs. They were accompanying assault victims, collecting evidence; suspects who had injured themselves trying to escape; folk involved in road accidents, to take statements. A panopoly of things.

But A&E was rammed. Resus was full of seriously sick people, all the bays were full - and there were no hospital beds to move them to. In a short staffed, underfunded A&E priority is not given to those patients whose treatment will free up 2 police officers - it's given to the sickest. So underfunding the NHS reduces officers on the street.

I'd imagine the same applies to officers who get stuck on a call while they wait for social services to attend. Or a myriad of other services that have also been cut to the bone.

For want of a nail, a shoe was lost, for want of a shoe etc

That's where we are now. For the sake of nails we are losing the war. And it's not the fault of the police.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"None at all after i did a thread about the dog bite a relative had after we got cctv and witnesses still that wasnt enough 1st they sent a pcso who filled report wrong saying a bite that requires surgery is minor and lost the cctv mem stick

Then warden came said dog was to live not enough evidence even tho u can see the attack clear

Then after kicking off police re intetviwed anf only gave a 3 month community order to owner fucking joke they are id sooner go back to rye for en eye laws fuck these pussy cops useless"

Dog wardens are council employees, not part of the police. And the courts pass sentence, not the police. At least try to get some facts right.

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over a year ago

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over a year ago

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I have faith in the police but they seem to turn a blind eye to some things.

Not far from where I live there is a house which is stinking with w**d growing inside it. You can smell it a mile away but the police do nothing.

They were quick enough to stop me by it and do me for a bald tyre though.

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I have faith in the police but they seem to turn a blind eye to some things.

Not far from where I live there is a house which is stinking with w**d growing inside it. You can smell it a mile away but the police do nothing.

They were quick enough to stop me by it and do me for a bald tyre though.

Cannabis does t kill anyone....unsafe tires do

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over a year ago

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I have faith in the police but they seem to turn a blind eye to some things.

Not far from where I live there is a house which is stinking with w**d growing inside it. You can smell it a mile away but the police do nothing.

They were quick enough to stop me by it and do me for a bald tyre though.

Cannabis does t kill anyone....unsafe tires do"

So it's legal is it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have some faith in them,but when the Cheshire police can send cars to escort the Cheshire hounds to go fox HUNTING,which is illegal?maybe their hardworking time could be better spent....stopping criminal activity?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't trust plod at all. There instuationaly racist.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Police visit to view the video take the thief in for questioning .. nooooo.

Ploice visit to see the video ..nooooo.

I had a phone call asking me..yeah thats right ..me to go to the station to discuss my report.

Errrr.. my response ..

why not come to the house see the video and then you can go and see the thieving bitch who lives next door.

I get the sense they'd like me to invrstigate collect the evidence (i have) and go and take the thief in cuffs to the station having done all of their job while they carry on eating doughnuts.

Thieves must be laughing all the way to the bank.

So you think it is too much trouble to get yourself down to the local police station so that they an try to help you?? How arrogant!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hi all,

What we don’t realise is that in every industry there are good and bad people.

Police forces also have them too. Police officers aren’t different breeds of humans and don’t come from another foreign planet.

They are as human as we are. When we break the law and get punished for it, we hate the police. When someone else commits a crime or offence against us then who do we call? Definitely not the ghostbusters.

So you see my point. Someone of you guys say you got stopped for something silly. Well stop breaking the law. If you see or notice something out of place then perhaps raise it.

I’ve always tried to abide by the law but like many, we all commit petty crime.

I’ve done so many times and I’m only human.

I like the Police and salute them for what they do for us. They work very hard and come to our aid when we need them. Thanks guys

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