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By *reya73 OP   Woman
over a year ago

Whitley Bay

I was thinking just now, I've spent waaaay too much time in my life wishing I had a flat tummy. The men and women I've loved and encountered have not seemed to care at all ... wasted worry! I love my womanly tummy now. I don't care what you think, it's so much better for my sex life that I'm uninhibited.

Which part of your body are you/have you been insecure about and what have you overcome?

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Thighs. It's why I started wearing swing dresses, to hide them.

I took up weight lifting, and had the support of some lovely people, and now see them as strong and shapely.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

At the minute all of me but I'm working on it...

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By *reya73 OP   Woman
over a year ago

Whitley Bay


"Thighs. It's why I started wearing swing dresses, to hide them.

I took up weight lifting, and had the support of some lovely people, and now see them as strong and shapely. "

Mmm strong and shapely ... sometimes just changing the language we use is so important. Nice one x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"At the minute all of me but I'm working on it..."

You have a lovely body be proud of it

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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago

Maldon and Peterborough

I'm the perfect body shape.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"At the minute all of me but I'm working on it...

You have a lovely body be proud of it "

Thank you and I wish it was that easy

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By *reya73 OP   Woman
over a year ago

Whitley Bay


"At the minute all of me but I'm working on it..."

you are gorgeous x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"At the minute all of me but I'm working on it...

You have a lovely body be proud of it

Thank you and I wish it was that easy "

Id love to get my hands on that lovely body and im sure loads of other men agree with me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I hate most of my body but some people seem to like it so I just don’t let it hold me back from doing what I want x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Op, you look great

When I was 18 I was fully grown height wise but weighed about 9.5 stone. I hated being skinny.

Hence why I'm a bit more chunky these days.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am round like a potato, round is a shape

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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago

Maldon and Peterborough


"I am round like a potato, round is a shape"

Everyone loves potatoes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I am round like a potato, round is a shape"

You look splendid

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By *reya73 OP   Woman
over a year ago

Whitley Bay


"I'm the perfect body shape.

"

Yes!

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By *orbidden eastMan
over a year ago

london dodging electric scooters


"Thighs. It's why I started wearing swing dresses, to hide them.

I took up weight lifting, and had the support of some lovely people, and now see them as strong and shapely. "

You look great believe me and the problem with society these days is everybody thinks that everybody is looking at each other but in all honesty if you do look up people to suck Their phones

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By *lueWonderMan
over a year ago

Preston.....ish

I'm in shape,

Just not really the shape I want to be....however I'll get there.

I need to get this flabby dad bod a little more toned!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Thighs. It's why I started wearing swing dresses, to hide them.

I took up weight lifting, and had the support of some lovely people, and now see them as strong and shapely.

You look great believe me and the problem with society these days is everybody thinks that everybody is looking at each other but in all honesty if you do look up people to suck Their phones "

Sad but true !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have a dad bod. Yet still feel that I won't get noticed unless I have a six lack to show off!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I was thinking just now, I've spent waaaay too much time in my life wishing I had a flat tummy. The men and women I've loved and encountered have not seemed to care at all ... wasted worry! I love my womanly tummy now. I don't care what you think, it's so much better for my sex life that I'm uninhibited.

Which part of your body are you/have you been insecure about and what have you overcome? "

you're fine as

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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago

Maldon and Peterborough


"I'm the perfect body shape.

Yes! "

Soooo. You're as nutty as me then.

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By *lueWonderMan
over a year ago

Preston.....ish


"Thighs. It's why I started wearing swing dresses, to hide them.

I took up weight lifting, and had the support of some lovely people, and now see them as strong and shapely. "

Oooh Swing, you looked great from where I was standing when I saw you last

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I was thinking just now, I've spent waaaay too much time in my life wishing I had a flat tummy. The men and women I've loved and encountered have not seemed to care at all ... wasted worry! I love my womanly tummy now. I don't care what you think, it's so much better for my sex life that I'm uninhibited.

Which part of your body are you/have you been insecure about and what have you overcome? "

My cock. I have always wondered if it's big enough.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I was thinking just now, I've spent waaaay too much time in my life wishing I had a flat tummy. The men and women I've loved and encountered have not seemed to care at all ... wasted worry! I love my womanly tummy now. I don't care what you think, it's so much better for my sex life that I'm uninhibited.

Which part of your body are you/have you been insecure about and what have you overcome? "

I wish I had your tummy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have a dad bod. Yet still feel that I won't get noticed unless I have a six lack to show off!

"

even then you wont. Basically be a complete cunt and then you will get noticed

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By *reya73 OP   Woman
over a year ago

Whitley Bay

We are living in a society where we are all (especially women) told how we should/shouldn't be from an early age. It's a lifetimes work to undo those messages

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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago

Maldon and Peterborough


"I have a dad bod. Yet still feel that I won't get noticed unless I have a six lack to show off!

"

Stand next to me. You'll look better.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Thighs. It's why I started wearing swing dresses, to hide them.

I took up weight lifting, and had the support of some lovely people, and now see them as strong and shapely.

You look great believe me and the problem with society these days is everybody thinks that everybody is looking at each other but in all honesty if you do look up people to suck Their phones "

its so fucking annoying ahhhhhgggg

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *B69Woman
over a year ago

Wiltshire

Used to be bigger and still put on clothes of the size I was, it’s tough mentally accepting what you are, big or small, but as I get older I get more confident and accepting of me.

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By *orthantsblueeyesMan
over a year ago

Northampton

My whole body confidence has soared since joining fab, as has my perception of my face. Personally I blame dating apps for this, but such is life

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have a dad bod. Yet still feel that I won't get noticed unless I have a six lack to show off!

even then you wont. Basically be a complete cunt and then you will get noticed"

Aahhh the old bad lad image "cos I can change him" theory, never knew that spread on here too

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't know if I'll ever like my body but I'm trying really hard to accept it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I am round like a potato, round is a shape

You look splendid "

Oh Taff, Diolch cariad

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

All of it, although it is a work in progress. Trying to get more mass, as I'm far too skinny.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have a dad bod. Yet still feel that I won't get noticed unless I have a six lack to show off!

Stand next to me. You'll look better. "

We could take the world by storm fella!! Rule it all #dadbodsutd

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By *reya73 OP   Woman
over a year ago

Whitley Bay


"I was thinking just now, I've spent waaaay too much time in my life wishing I had a flat tummy. The men and women I've loved and encountered have not seemed to care at all ... wasted worry! I love my womanly tummy now. I don't care what you think, it's so much better for my sex life that I'm uninhibited.

Which part of your body are you/have you been insecure about and what have you overcome?

I wish I had your tummy. "

We shouldn't even be in a position where we feel the need to compare xxxxxxxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don't know if I'll ever like my body but I'm trying really hard to accept it "

Your body looks amazing on your pics

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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago

Maldon and Peterborough


"I don't know if I'll ever like my body but I'm trying really hard to accept it "

Wow. You look amazing

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By *rAitchMan
over a year ago

Diagonally Parked in a Parallel Universe

I'm not insecure about any part of me. It is what it is.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I was thinking just now, I've spent waaaay too much time in my life wishing I had a flat tummy. The men and women I've loved and encountered have not seemed to care at all ... wasted worry! I love my womanly tummy now. I don't care what you think, it's so much better for my sex life that I'm uninhibited.

Which part of your body are you/have you been insecure about and what have you overcome? "

You look absolutely stunning to me Freya!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don't know if I'll ever like my body but I'm trying really hard to accept it

Your body looks amazing on your pics "

angles and breathing in!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Belly belly belly.

If there was a lingerie manufacturer who made underwear that flattered ‘mothers aprons’ they’d make a killing.

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By *reya73 OP   Woman
over a year ago

Whitley Bay


"Used to be bigger and still put on clothes of the size I was, it’s tough mentally accepting what you are, big or small, but as I get older I get more confident and accepting of me."

Congrats .. me too, age helps ironically ay! Here we are living in these bodies, best get on with it and reap the benefits of being just as we are x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don't know if I'll ever like my body but I'm trying really hard to accept it

Your body looks amazing on your pics angles and breathing in!"

Should never feel the need to breath in! There is no such thing a nice body because every one gas a different idea of what nice is

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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago

Maldon and Peterborough


"Belly belly belly.

If there was a lingerie manufacturer who made underwear that flattered ‘mothers aprons’ they’d make a killing. "

I'll come and measure you up for my new invention.

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By *reya73 OP   Woman
over a year ago

Whitley Bay


"I don't know if I'll ever like my body but I'm trying really hard to accept it "

Goddess!

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By *Jones19Man
over a year ago

Evesham, Worcester, Pershore

I have a few hang ups, main hang up when it comes to feeling attractive is my size. I've always been active/athelic but at 6ft+ and weighting nothing, I've always been pretty thin too. Makes me self conscious the moment someone notices it/asks how much I weight... cause apparently its acceptable to ask a thin person but ask anyone with a bit about them its rude...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My feet.

We've been through alot, my feet and I. They have stories to them. But with those stories comes some scars and definite wear. People with foot fetishes and I dont mix.

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By *reya73 OP   Woman
over a year ago

Whitley Bay


"Belly belly belly.

If there was a lingerie manufacturer who made underwear that flattered ‘mothers aprons’ they’d make a killing. "

Or just a culture which appreciates what a woman's body becomes and what it can achieve!?

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By *abrina59TV/TS
over a year ago

moved to cuckold land

The women her have such gorgeous sexy bodies that you should be so proud of.

I'm so jealous

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I was thinking just now, I've spent waaaay too much time in my life wishing I had a flat tummy. The men and women I've loved and encountered have not seemed to care at all ... wasted worry! I love my womanly tummy now. I don't care what you think, it's so much better for my sex life that I'm uninhibited.

Which part of your body are you/have you been insecure about and what have you overcome? "

Wasted worry is right, it's something everyone can by guilty of. Glad you said you love your womanly tummy as you should, you have a gorgeous body and a fantastic shape and I'm sure a lot of women would be envious of

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By *reya73 OP   Woman
over a year ago

Whitley Bay


"I have a few hang ups, main hang up when it comes to feeling attractive is my size. I've always been active/athelic but at 6ft+ and weighting nothing, I've always been pretty thin too. Makes me self conscious the moment someone notices it/asks how much I weight... cause apparently its acceptable to ask a thin person but ask anyone with a bit about them its rude..."

Yup, I hear this often .. shame for being big, shame (And everones property) for being slim

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Belly belly belly.

If there was a lingerie manufacturer who made underwear that flattered ‘mothers aprons’ they’d make a killing.

Or just a culture which appreciates what a woman's body becomes and what it can achieve!? "

Way too much money riding in selling body insecurity to us unfortunately. I’m delighted that my daughters don’t freak about me wondering around naked even though they’re reaching teenagerdom. I hope it gives them a (brutally) realistic picture of what women’s bodies become in the face of media unreality.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some one go on my profile and honestly tell me one good and one bad thing about me?!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

I'm a series of spheres stacked up and out. It's mine and I'm comfortable with it.

My relationship with my body image is better now than when I was a young size 8 and called "Fatso" by family, told I would never be able to keep a man if I gained any weight and truly believed I was fat and unattractive.

It's only been a 3 years since I looked at the pictures of me from back then. About that time, someone on here commented that they wished they were as fat as when they first worried about being fat.

Some things we can't change about our bodies but we can all change our attitude towards our bodies. I'm challenging myself by having more revealing pictures and one that shows those stacked spheres.

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By *reya73 OP   Woman
over a year ago

Whitley Bay


"I was thinking just now, I've spent waaaay too much time in my life wishing I had a flat tummy. The men and women I've loved and encountered have not seemed to care at all ... wasted worry! I love my womanly tummy now. I don't care what you think, it's so much better for my sex life that I'm uninhibited.

Which part of your body are you/have you been insecure about and what have you overcome?

Wasted worry is right, it's something everyone can by guilty of. Glad you said you love your womanly tummy as you should, you have a gorgeous body and a fantastic shape and I'm sure a lot of women would be envious of

"

Thank you x .. I didn't post for compliments, though I'm grateful, Its an issue dear to my heart. I just want people to feel comfy in their skin

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I was thinking just now, I've spent waaaay too much time in my life wishing I had a flat tummy. The men and women I've loved and encountered have not seemed to care at all ... wasted worry! I love my womanly tummy now. I don't care what you think, it's so much better for my sex life that I'm uninhibited.

Which part of your body are you/have you been insecure about and what have you overcome?

You look gorgeous!

Wasted worry is right, it's something everyone can by guilty of. Glad you said you love your womanly tummy as you should, you have a gorgeous body and a fantastic shape and I'm sure a lot of women would be envious of

Thank you x .. I didn't post for compliments, though I'm grateful, Its an issue dear to my heart. I just want people to feel comfy in their skin"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Your body is amazing OP!

I've never been confident in my skin even when I weighed 6 and half stone

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By *pider-WomanWoman
over a year ago

Exeter, Bristol, Plymouth, Truro

At times when I was younger most of it for one reason or another.

But these days I'm proud and wear my body with confidence. But it's taken a lot of work both physically and mentally it hasn't just happened. I'm fitter and more toned than I ever was in my 20,s or 30,s it's a state of mind as well. Im growing old disgracefully full stop.

You look great Op

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By *B69Woman
over a year ago

Wiltshire


"Used to be bigger and still put on clothes of the size I was, it’s tough mentally accepting what you are, big or small, but as I get older I get more confident and accepting of me.

Congrats .. me too, age helps ironically ay! Here we are living in these bodies, best get on with it and reap the benefits of being just as we are x"

Yes confidence outweighs all negativity.

Xx

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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago

Maldon and Peterborough

Hey. Look at me.

I'm 9 stone overweight.

Does it bother me enough to stress about it???

NOPE.

just living the dream.

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By *orthantsblueeyesMan
over a year ago

Northampton


"Hey. Look at me.

I'm 9 stone overweight.

Does it bother me enough to stress about it???

NOPE.

just living the dream. "

You're an awesome guy

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By *mberWoman
over a year ago

Preston

My bum.

A lad at school used to call me big bum (in fact a few did) I've been paranoid about it for almost 30 years. Then a bloke I liked said 'it's big, but it's really not a bad thing, I like it' and it changed my outlook.

Other people had said in the past 'it's not big' but I knew they were lying so that didn't help. But realising that it is and that it's OK was a revelation!

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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago

Maldon and Peterborough

Just more of me to love. Lol

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By *B69Woman
over a year ago

Wiltshire


"Just more of me to love. Lol"

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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago

Maldon and Peterborough


"Just more of me to love. Lol

"

Oh Hellloooo. Xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm the perfect body shape.

"

You are perfectly you!

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"Hey. Look at me.

I'm 9 stone overweight.

Does it bother me enough to stress about it???

NOPE.

just living the dream. "

Confidence wins every time.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Beauty comes in all shapes and sizes

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By *reya73 OP   Woman
over a year ago

Whitley Bay


"At times when I was younger most of it for one reason or another.

But these days I'm proud and wear my body with confidence. But it's taken a lot of work both physically and mentally it hasn't just happened. I'm fitter and more toned than I ever was in my 20,s or 30,s it's a state of mind as well. Im growing old disgracefully full stop.

You look great Op

"

Thank you, as do you xx xx xx xx yes! Growing old disgracefully, I am disgracefully inspired .. following close behind! Shame we had to work so hard ay .. but in the same breath .. the work we choose to do makes us.

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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago

Maldon and Peterborough


"Hey. Look at me.

I'm 9 stone overweight.

Does it bother me enough to stress about it???

NOPE.

just living the dream.

Confidence wins every time.

"

Big hugs lovely lady. Xx

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

I'd like to be slimmer but I don't feel bad about myself, and if someone doesn't like it, they will get a booty slam from by rather large posterior!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I was thinking just now, I've spent waaaay too much time in my life wishing I had a flat tummy. The men and women I've loved and encountered have not seemed to care at all ... wasted worry! I love my womanly tummy now. I don't care what you think, it's so much better for my sex life that I'm uninhibited.

Which part of your body are you/have you been insecure about and what have you overcome?

Wasted worry is right, it's something everyone can by guilty of. Glad you said you love your womanly tummy as you should, you have a gorgeous body and a fantastic shape and I'm sure a lot of women would be envious of

Thank you x .. I didn't post for compliments, though I'm grateful, Its an issue dear to my heart. I just want people to feel comfy in their skin"

I didn't think you was but you are right it is an issue for some and getting over it is probably quite liberating, I've a broken nose I used get a little paranoid over it but doesn't bother me anymore and that's something I could have had fix quite easy but it makes me who I am.... and I'm OK with that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have quite deep rooted body imagine issues (not looking for sympathy or fishing for compliments!) and it's really refreshing to see other people having the same struggle, I . have nothing but admiration for someone who truly loves themselves

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By *luebell888Woman
over a year ago

Glasgowish

I have become more body confident since joining Fab. Before i was my own worse critic and had very little positive to say about myself. Sometimes i feel too thin but find it difficult to put weight on due to poor appetite and working nights in an active job.

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By *rs mischiefWoman
over a year ago

Manchester


"At the minute all of me but I'm working on it..."

Me too... ps your beautiful xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am one of the many men who prefer bigger bodys to slim ones

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By *luebell888Woman
over a year ago

Glasgowish


"I am one of the many men who prefer bigger bodys to slim ones"

And its comments like this that make me feel worse.

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By *reya73 OP   Woman
over a year ago

Whitley Bay


"Your body is amazing OP!

I've never been confident in my skin even when I weighed 6 and half stone

"

Jeez, you are stunning .. I hope one day you get a glimpse of that feeling ..'Im just great, exactly as I am' xxx

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley


"I am one of the many men who prefer bigger bodys to slim ones

And its comments like this that make me feel worse."

Plenty of men prefer slimmer women, you have an awesome body

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I am one of the many men who prefer bigger bodys to slim ones

And its comments like this that make me feel worse."

Im sorry. But why is that?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I know I'm fat and ugly. I'm trying to fix one of them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This thread is full of hotties

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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago

Maldon and Peterborough


"This thread is full of hotties"

Awww thanks

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley


"This thread is full of hotties"

Thanks!

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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago

Maldon and Peterborough


"This thread is full of hotties

Thanks! "

High 5

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By *luebell888Woman
over a year ago

Glasgowish


"I am one of the many men who prefer bigger bodys to slim ones

And its comments like this that make me feel worse.

Im sorry. But why is that?"

If you had read my previous comment then it would be obvious.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This thread is full of hotties

Thanks!

High 5"

on the side

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By *reya73 OP   Woman
over a year ago

Whitley Bay


"I have quite deep rooted body imagine issues (not looking for sympathy or fishing for compliments!) and it's really refreshing to see other people having the same struggle, I . have nothing but admiration for someone who truly loves themselves "

We are never alone in our suffering! Its part of the human condition. As soon as I realised that I began to feel lighter. Wish you the same x

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By *ainyDaySunshineMan
over a year ago

Ayrshire

Wish I could lose sum of the winter podge but that's what makes you who you are

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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago

Maldon and Peterborough


"I am one of the many men who prefer bigger bodys to slim ones

And its comments like this that make me feel worse.

Im sorry. But why is that?

If you had read my previous comment then it would be obvious."

Bluebell - you do look amazing. Honest - I say that with no ulterior motive. X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The op has nice teeth

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"I know I'm fat and ugly. I'm trying to fix one of them. "

You are neither, but I can't change your beliefs about yourself.

I hope you find your confidence and self worth. I know it's hard with depression.

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By *reya73 OP   Woman
over a year ago

Whitley Bay


"I have become more body confident since joining Fab. Before i was my own worse critic and had very little positive to say about myself. Sometimes i feel too thin but find it difficult to put weight on due to poor appetite and working nights in an active job."

It works all ways, too big, too slim, too short, too long, too small, too fat, too thin ... grrrrrs xxxxxxxxxxxxxx xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hey - everyone.

CONFIDENCE is more sexy than any body issues you got, and it shows up faster than any muffin top, bad feet, weird mole, etc etc etc etc. Love yourselves and whatever you got and just say fuck it, I'm sexy.

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley


"This thread is full of hotties

Thanks!

High 5 on the side"

Down low........ Too slow!

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By *reya73 OP   Woman
over a year ago

Whitley Bay


"The op has nice teeth "

Thank goodness someone them noticed at last!

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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago

Maldon and Peterborough


"This thread is full of hotties

Thanks!

High 5 on the side

Down low........ Too slow! "

That ok I slapped your arse instead.

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By *reya73 OP   Woman
over a year ago

Whitley Bay


"Hey - everyone.

CONFIDENCE is more sexy than any body issues you got, and it shows up faster than any muffin top, bad feet, weird mole, etc etc etc etc. Love yourselves and whatever you got and just say fuck it, I'm sexy. "

Yarse! Even confidence with havin the issues help towards the 'fuck it' x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This thread is full of hotties

Thanks!

High 5 on the side

Down low........ Too slow! "

you should said down lown then let him say too slow

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The op has nice teeth

Thank goodness someone them noticed at last! "

can I lick them

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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago

Maldon and Peterborough


"This thread is full of hotties

Thanks!

High 5 on the side

Down low........ Too slow! you should said down lown then let him say too slow "

She gets carried away.

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By *ySweetLadyWoman
over a year ago

London

I had always been a bit on the chubby side but not too much and with a nice womanly, curvy shape but I always felt insecure.

About 20 years ago I met someone who made me feel I was a bit too big and it was then that I started to doubt myself so much that I started trying all sorts of diets and exercise routines this person suggested.

20 years later and I am at my biggest, definitely not feeling sexy at all and regretting having listened to that person back then (especially as this person nowadays does not even pay attention to me).

I wish I had just been happy with myself as I was as I now realise there was absolutely nothing wrong with me back then.

So to all those with a few insecurities, love yourselves the way you are.

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By *urls and DressesWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere near here

I’m extremely insecure of my tummy, I hate it. My hair I’ve overcome though, it’s very curly and it used to upset me, I hated it. Now I embrace it and own it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We'll let her off this time

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By *reya73 OP   Woman
over a year ago

Whitley Bay


"The op has nice teeth

Thank goodness someone them noticed at last! can I lick them "

Erm, well, maybe not on the first date !?!

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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago

Maldon and Peterborough


"The op has nice teeth

Thank goodness someone them noticed at last! can I lick them

Erm, well, maybe not on the first date !?!"

That took a double take.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I go through phases where I loathe certain bits of me and other times I really couldn't give too much of a shit. Of course I want to look good, the best version of me but that's not always the case. I've looked better than I do now but I'm not that bothered really. It's not gonna knock my confidence at the minute because I'm in a happy place.

When things aren't going too well in other aspects of my life or I have areas of stress, especially those beyond my control, that's when the insecurities appear. Knock on effect.

P

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm the perfect body shape.

"

You said it x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I wasn't body Confident even after a year and half of giving birth to our baby. I was browsing through Facebook one day and came across a competition for a boudoir photo shoot, all I had to do was tell them why I wanted it ect...

A month later I had the phone call to say I won, you only have to look at my pics to admire the result, no photo shop or nothing just all me, what a confidence boost x

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By *orbidden eastMan
over a year ago

london dodging electric scooters

I think a lot of people should understand that people are more interested in staring at their phones then looking at people and by the looks of it many of you ladies on here ( yes I have been Perving) look great and you do not even realise that most of you ladies are sharing very intimate pictures of yourselves.so if that’s not called confidence I don’t know what it is. And I know it’s simpler than it says sounds.

If you don’t believe me just take a minute the next time you’re outside and see what everybody is doing and you will see for yourself

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I had always been a bit on the chubby side but not too much and with a nice womanly, curvy shape but I always felt insecure.

About 20 years ago I met someone who made me feel I was a bit too big and it was then that I started to doubt myself so much that I started trying all sorts of diets and exercise routines this person suggested.

20 years later and I am at my biggest, definitely not feeling sexy at all and regretting having listened to that person back then (especially as this person nowadays does not even pay attention to me).

I wish I had just been happy with myself as I was as I now realise there was absolutely nothing wrong with me back then.

So to all those with a few insecurities, love yourselves the way you are. "

I’m glad you eventually found not only there’s nothing wrong with you back then or now, but that you have a wonderful body that turns on many of us...

Such a shame sometimes insecurities settle in by the wrong people and takes years of effort to overcome.

I had my own fair share of insecurities with my testicles until eventually I realised no one really cared, and became a lot more confident sexually and in life general

Hope you too

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By *oxy BBWWoman
over a year ago

Home Counties

All of me. Having lost 24st my skin is no longer firm. Can’t afford plastics to remove excess skin. A tummy tuck gone wrong. Nasty comments

I’m extremely self conscious - thank goodness my partner loves me for who I am

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm the same as the lady above, insecure about me in general

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By *unshine05Man
over a year ago

Sherborne

"I stopped caring about my body image when I realised the reason women wouldn't sleep with me was my personality"

Frankie Boyle

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hair... Or the lack of lol. I've been waiting for Ross Kemp to make a return to Eastenders so I can once again be in demand haha.

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By *attb179Man
over a year ago

London

Funny because for me having body hair all over generates real disgusts here in the UK. Generally not a physical attribute British women like at all. I've come to own it and not worry as I've learnt it's considered perfectly normal everywhere else in the world!

Also used to be quite worried about my cock size but after doing hiit and losing weight I gained about an inch in length and apparently its quite nice lol.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I was thinking just now, I've spent waaaay too much time in my life wishing I had a flat tummy. The men and women I've loved and encountered have not seemed to care at all ... wasted worry! I love my womanly tummy now. I don't care what you think, it's so much better for my sex life that I'm uninhibited.

Which part of your body are you/have you been insecure about and what have you overcome? "

men seriously don't care about stretch marks, curvy parts, jiggly parts thigh gaps and everything else social media says you should or shouldn't have, ladies if you're naked or semi naked in front of a man he will never leave because he doesn't like something about you. Confidence is key, own your body

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I was thinking just now, I've spent waaaay too much time in my life wishing I had a flat tummy. The men and women I've loved and encountered have not seemed to care at all ... wasted worry! I love my womanly tummy now. I don't care what you think, it's so much better for my sex life that I'm uninhibited.

Which part of your body are you/have you been insecure about and what have you overcome? "

ahhh the ravages of time dont waste it it flies by, you can only work with what youve got i smile and make the most of it, having said that my body isnt in bad shape

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The op has nice teeth

Thank goodness someone them noticed at last! can I lick them

Erm, well, maybe not on the first date !?!"

I can wait till

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By *cloversCouple
over a year ago

Hull

Hate my stomach . . . . Not over fond of much really.

I used to be a size 10, 24 waist - always huge boobs - loved being slim but life, kids & some health conditions have all contributed to the large me

It's hard to be so different to what you used to be. He says he loves all of me regardless and I certainly have had my eyes opened by the amount of people on here like larger ladies.

I'm trying to like myself more

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I hate my body but men still want to meet me and i have a great time so not all bad

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By *ntrigued32Couple
over a year ago

Nottingham

My stomach is my biggest weakness.

I'm working on not letting it bother me.

Jo.Xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We are living in a society where we are all (especially women) told how we should/shouldn't be from an early age. It's a lifetimes work to undo those messages "

It's not always as simplistic as that, even people with the "ideal" bodies can hate them! It's more about never feeling good enough in anyway and our body is the easiest thing to manifest this on. Modern life with it's constant food, fad diet and fitness etc bombardment just emphasises all of it unfortunately

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Tummy too and boobs probably ...happier with my belly now though but it's not as though having a flatter belly solves life's problems. We waste too much time sweating the small stuff.

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By *eliWoman
over a year ago

.

It used to be my entire mass. I hated having big boobs, a big arse and thick thighs, not forgetting my tummy. I wanted to be slim and desirable.

Now through a combination of things I'm starting to love it and feel sexy. I'm strong, getting healthier and I feel womanly; I like seeing myself naked and all the curves.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I can only hope.one day i will be at peace with myself..I have bad self loathing of my body

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By *KAholeandgloryCouple
over a year ago

exeter

My beautiful wife has always had issues with her stomach. And the same as the op everyone tells her it fine. I love the way she looks

Take a look for yourself and let me know

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By *ocratesrocksMan
over a year ago

school of long licks


"My beautiful wife has always had issues with her stomach. And the same as the op everyone tells her it fine. I love the way she looks

Take a look for yourself and let me know "

She is sensational, gorgeous body

I have always been about a stone overweight, never been able to shift it, given up trying now lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Everything except my stomach for most of my life. Always been very slim - at high school when girls were developing breasts and a nice shape etc, I was “flat chested” and “anorexic” according to a couple of cruel bullies (I didn’t have an eating disorder, just a small appetite and a struggle to put weight on combined with being a late developer). I blossomed in my late teens/20s (becoming a mum at 21 helped me develop shape and curves too), and through my 20s until now I suppose I’ve grown more to love my slim frame but the comments of the bullies are never far from my mind at times. Even now at times I feel very self conscious in a bikini on a beach. Other times, I feel great, just depends. Past couple years I’ve added weight training to my gym routine and this helped me to feel not only stronger but also to have more shape and definition in my arms and thighs (as opposed to just being skinny) which has also helped my body image. I also struggle to put weight on - people think this is a “blessing” and “not a real problem” but those people don’t understand my experiences. So I think it just goes to show how you can be a size 8/10 and still feel crap at times about your body a times.

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By *KAholeandgloryCouple
over a year ago

exeter


"My beautiful wife has always had issues with her stomach. And the same as the op everyone tells her it fine. I love the way she looks

Take a look for yourself and let me know

She is sensational, gorgeous body

I have always been about a stone overweight, never been able to shift it, given up trying now lol"

People need to love the body their in simples

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By *llaboutthewifeCouple
over a year ago

Cardiff

Would love to have a waist.

I'm a bit straight up and down, and chunkier than I'd truly like to be. But that said, pretty happy with life in general atm

Jo x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Op, you look great

When I was 18 I was fully grown height wise but weighed about 9.5 stone. I hated being skinny.

Hence why I'm a bit more chunky these days."

I can relate! I don’t think my thighs are ever going to look like yours but I’m working on it

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By *emorefridaCouple
over a year ago

La la land

Used to hate every inch of me in all honesty. I still don't love all my body, but I've come to appreciate and accept it a lot more than I used to.

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By *kiptongueMan
over a year ago

Barnoldswick

I put weight on when I broke my back 14 years ago, struggling to loose it but still swimming 30 lengths every day and cycling.

Can't run due to the back so also do long distance walking challenges instead.

Doesn't stop me doing anything else

Just means I'm never happy with my body

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By *affron40Woman
over a year ago

manchester

There’s always been bits I’ve been self conscious about.. Ive wished my boobs were smaller.. my tummy was flatter.. when I hit my forties it absolutely hit me that this body has served me pretty well in life. I never once questioned myself when I was married and it was only when I became single that I overthought everything and created anxiety that really didn’t matter. Since recovering from surgery and meds withdrawal I’m so grateful to still be here that I’ve finally embraced what I have. It’s not perfect by a long way but it’s me and I’m happy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So as the male half talking,I think there is so much pressure on the ladies to look a certain way and be in constant search of that perfect body image you see on TV. it's society that puts pressure on girls from a very young age and it's a awful sign of the times. Way more emphasis is put on a six pack or thigh gap,then if you are a nice person or can hold a conversation. For me I look for woman that make me laugh and click with me intellectually and I honestly believe most good men are the same.its media and advertising that tells woman they look bad in a certain way to sell you more stuff and make you feel less attractive.but trust me every single woman is stunning,if they are basic things like funny, intelligent, approachable and sweet

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I used to be incredibly self conscious and loved blending in the background. There was so much I disliked about my body. This is where fab and being online has done me a great service really and maybe being older has also contributed to it, but I’m comfortable now. Sure there are jiggly bits that I would want to change but I really like my body and others seem to appreciate it too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My face.....I wasn t blessed but can t change it and never would best way is no mirrors in the house

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hate my mum tum with a vengeance

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So as the male half talking,I think there is so much pressure on the ladies to look a certain way and be in constant search of that perfect body image you see on TV. it's society that puts pressure on girls from a very young age and it's a awful sign of the times. Way more emphasis is put on a six pack or thigh gap,then if you are a nice person or can hold a conversation. For me I look for woman that make me laugh and click with me intellectually and I honestly believe most good men are the same.its media and advertising that tells woman they look bad in a certain way to sell you more stuff and make you feel less attractive.but trust me every single woman is stunning,if they are basic things like funny, intelligent, approachable and sweet "

I agree. The media can be so damaging to a woman’s self esteem. But also peer groups and comments made about how you “should” look when you are developing into a young woman can stay with a woman for life.

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By *adMerWoman
over a year ago

Sandwich

So basically short, tall, slim, fat, young or old there’s definitely parts of our bodies we would all like to change.

The trick is not to let worrying about how you look stop you from enjoying your life. Easier said than done sadly.

It used to amaze me how women that looked pretty much perfect physical specimens to me could be more hung up on their appearance than fat old me. It’s really a shame that we can’t all be more accepting of ourselves.

It’s why I love this place though because mostly everyone here is lovely and supportive

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So basically short, tall, slim, fat, young or old there’s definitely parts of our bodies we would all like to change.

The trick is not to let worrying about how you look stop you from enjoying your life. Easier said than done sadly.

It used to amaze me how women that looked pretty much perfect physical specimens to me could be more hung up on their appearance than fat old me. It’s really a shame that we can’t all be more accepting of ourselves.

It’s why I love this place though because mostly everyone here is lovely and supportive"

The reason people with apparent perfect physiques can be just as if not more hung up on it is because of individual life experiences and psychological vulnerabilities. No one knows what people have been through and it’s very rarely as simple as “she’s a size 8 therefore she must love her body”. No. Bullying during teen years is powerful - it stays with people. Into my 30s now I’ve learned to embrace and even at times, dare I say it, love the body I’m in. But my god has it been a journey. I agree - we should all love ourselves regardless and the support on here is lovely too

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I put weight on when I broke my back 14 years ago, struggling to loose it but still swimming 30 lengths every day and cycling.

Can't run due to the back so also do long distance walking challenges instead.

Doesn't stop me doing anything else

Just means I'm never happy with my body"

That's impressive and inspiring.

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By *reya73 OP   Woman
over a year ago

Whitley Bay


"We are living in a society where we are all (especially women) told how we should/shouldn't be from an early age. It's a lifetimes work to undo those messages

It's not always as simplistic as that, even people with the "ideal" bodies can hate them! It's more about never feeling good enough in anyway and our body is the easiest thing to manifest this on. Modern life with it's constant food, fad diet and fitness etc bombardment just emphasises all of it unfortunately "

Yes, this is what I mean .. the messages that we are not enough or our personal experiences coupled with the consumer world saying we need x y z to become more healthy, more beautiful, smaller, bigger, fit in etc. We are never just enough because someone always wants to sell something. Our whole culture is based on keeping us needing something more than we have or than we are x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’m unhappy with all of me, years of constant degradation has damaged my perception of myself, picking that apart is a constant battle. Some days I do think I look good x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My dad bod. I love baking with my littlest so we always have sweet treats to enjoy. But I've stop eating sweets and I am exercising again

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By *esse1972Man
over a year ago

Rugeley

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By *esse1972Man
over a year ago

Rugeley


"I’m unhappy with all of me, years of constant degradation has damaged my perception of myself, picking that apart is a constant battle. Some days I do think I look good x "

You look great xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My pig nose but I realized the ladies still fancy me so got over it

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By *reya73 OP   Woman
over a year ago

Whitley Bay

So interesting and humbling to read everyone's stories and thoughts.

Some traumatic sexual experiences deeply effected my self worth, a mother who constantly voiced that her body was disgusting - it was modelled to me that tummy fat or loose skin from having babies is just plain revolting.

Our consumer,image, status Culture insidiously saying that we are not enough so it can sell us more stuff.

No wonder! For me it comes down to self worth. I'm proud of what my body as achieved and overcome even though I could still criticise loads of bits of me.

I'm in awe of all the shapes and sizes here on fab and how brave we all are putting ourselves out there regardless of our hang ups and what we are overcoming in life. X

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By *reya73 OP   Woman
over a year ago

Whitley Bay


"I’m unhappy with all of me, years of constant degradation has damaged my perception of myself, picking that apart is a constant battle. Some days I do think I look good x "

Ouch xxx xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The next generation is going to be so much more worse off. Instagram and the the other social media platforms is going to create some horrible self image problems

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By *reya73 OP   Woman
over a year ago

Whitley Bay


"The next generation is going to be so much more worse off. Instagram and the the other social media platforms is going to create some horrible self image problems"

Yes, it is already. Saddening and worrying. Although schools and some media groups are acknowledging this and creating mental health movements to combat. I'm very careful to be body positive with my children..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The next generation is going to be so much more worse off. Instagram and the the other social media platforms is going to create some horrible self image problems

Yes, it is already. Saddening and worrying. Although schools and some media groups are acknowledging this and creating mental health movements to combat. I'm very careful to be body positive with my children.. "

Same, unfortunately we have 2 girls. Our 10 year old is constantly questioning how she looks, not our influence unfortunately. It's all of her school friends who already have phones and a few have social media accounts

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By *arkhorse66Man
over a year ago

bristol


"Used to be bigger and still put on clothes of the size I was, it’s tough mentally accepting what you are, big or small, but as I get older I get more confident and accepting of me."

You look fantastic

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By *reya73 OP   Woman
over a year ago

Whitley Bay


"All of me. Having lost 24st my skin is no longer firm. Can’t afford plastics to remove excess skin. A tummy tuck gone wrong. Nasty comments

I’m extremely self conscious - thank goodness my partner loves me for who I am "

24 stone .. You're incredible! X

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over a year ago


"The next generation is going to be so much more worse off. Instagram and the the other social media platforms is going to create some horrible self image problems

Yes, it is already. Saddening and worrying. Although schools and some media groups are acknowledging this and creating mental health movements to combat. I'm very careful to be body positive with my children..

Same, unfortunately we have 2 girls. Our 10 year old is constantly questioning how she looks, not our influence unfortunately. It's all of her school friends who already have phones and a few have social media accounts "

This, I have daughters who are thankfully both very sporty so they are focused on that and not how they look... well until a cute boy comes along. then it’s all duck faces and pouting

Me; I’ve always struggled with how I see my body. All my own insecurities from never feeling ‘good enough’. I need to be careful as I know it can and has found it’s way into other parts of my life so it’s a vicious circle

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By *he Mac LassWoman
over a year ago

Hefty Hideaway

Despite my hefty frame I have lots of body confidence. 20 years ago I'd have told you I liked my hair and struggled to appreciate anything else. Now at 37, I love my body. It isn't to everyone's taste granted but I'm more than happy to be inside it. Welcome to the pleasure dome

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My hair line.

I hated it for years and dreading shaving my head.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Despite my hefty frame I have lots of body confidence. 20 years ago I'd have told you I liked my hair and struggled to appreciate anything else. Now at 37, I love my body. It isn't to everyone's taste granted but I'm more than happy to be inside it. Welcome to the pleasure dome

"

This !!!

I’m with you sister

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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago

Maldon and Peterborough


"Despite my hefty frame I have lots of body confidence. 20 years ago I'd have told you I liked my hair and struggled to appreciate anything else. Now at 37, I love my body. It isn't to everyone's taste granted but I'm more than happy to be inside it. Welcome to the pleasure dome

"

If you're smiling on the inside it shows on the outside.

Btw. You look gorgeous. Xx

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By *carlettxWoman
over a year ago

Essex


"Op, you look great

When I was 18 I was fully grown height wise but weighed about 9.5 stone. I hated being skinny.

Hence why I'm a bit more chunky these days."

So more of a Chunkymonkey these days ? Join the club lol

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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago

Maldon and Peterborough


"Op, you look great

When I was 18 I was fully grown height wise but weighed about 9.5 stone. I hated being skinny.

Hence why I'm a bit more chunky these days.

So more of a Chunkymonkey these days ? Join the club lol "

You can behave as well.

All of you ladies on this thread are amazing.

I'd love to spend an evening with any of you. Even just socially.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My thighs, they are rather large due to doing sport but i still have a bit of fat on the inner sides that rub - I dont want the chubby rub anymore!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm definitely with you on the tummy issue.... For me a flat tummy would be that physically I have reached my full potential. Its beginning to dawn on me that ain't happening.

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By *adame 2SwordsWoman
over a year ago

Victoria, London

Well done, really pleased you're ok with yourself. Takes a lot to start enjoying your body. TBH no one cares, and love the body you have.

Years I tried to cover up my cleavage, where as now I'm out there and enjoying myself.

Life is too short to worry about other's opinions.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Big boobs,big bum and a cz scar which has made my lower tummy mishapen hence why i tend to wear corsets...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have been insecure about my body for most of my life - a fair few obvious scars, being a bit cuddly and having a rather hairy chest.

Now I am kind of embracing my body, enjoying working out and getting fitter - not too look good but to feel better. I think it is something that comes with age, an acceptance and appreciation of our own bodies.

It is such a pity that mainstream media pushes this “body perfect” image on us all the time, especially for youngster these days. There are over 7 billion people in the world and we are all different, we are all attractive to people out there just as we are all unattractive to others.

I am happier with my body now than when I was fitter and better looking in my late teens early twenties.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Everyone likes something different in everyone else.

Sure,there are things or parts of our bodies we’d like to be a certain way,but people see past these “flaws”.

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By *oldyoudown41Man
over a year ago

caledonian


"I was thinking just now, I've spent waaaay too much time in my life wishing I had a flat tummy. The men and women I've loved and encountered have not seemed to care at all ... wasted worry! I love my womanly tummy now. I don't care what you think, it's so much better for my sex life that I'm uninhibited.

Which part of your body are you/have you been insecure about and what have you overcome? "

Very sexy indeed.. well said

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We are living in a society where we are all (especially women) told how we should/shouldn't be from an early age. It's a lifetimes work to undo those messages "

That's exactly what's brought me round to accepting mine. So my little girl sees that from as young as possible. I realised I had my priorities wrong for years worrying who would or wouldn't fancy me, when I should have been appreciating what I had and setting a good, body confident example. I'm less fussed now over who does or doesn't find me attractive and find that actually a lot of guys are interested more in the confidence anyway.

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By *emorefridaCouple
over a year ago

La la land


"We are living in a society where we are all (especially women) told how we should/shouldn't be from an early age. It's a lifetimes work to undo those messages

That's exactly what's brought me round to accepting mine. So my little girl sees that from as young as possible. I realised I had my priorities wrong for years worrying who would or wouldn't fancy me, when I should have been appreciating what I had and setting a good, body confident example. I'm less fussed now over who does or doesn't find me attractive and find that actually a lot of guys are interested more in the confidence anyway."

Exactly the same with me, want them to understand and see what a normal body looks like, not what they see in the media. So this means me not hiding my mum tum, and wearing a swimming costume and go swimming with them.

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman
over a year ago

On a mooch

Teach them that natural is best and to look beyond the surface.

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