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"Source for that data? Always quite the source " Yes it was on wikipedia if you search for What is the largest religion in the world 2019?. | |||
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"Source for that data? Always quite the source Yes it was on wikipedia if you search for What is the largest religion in the world 2019?." Wiki has never been wrong about anything ever has it?????? Religion is fast becoming ignored and I doubt it will last another hundred years or so | |||
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"Seems the world's population is much like Benny in The Mummy. Reaching for any old trinket in the face of possible extinction. Us non believers happily know that non existence is simply returning to the status quo." Although I do think when faced with the awareness of their own mortality, a lot of non believers would be quick to reconsider their perspectives. | |||
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"Seems the world's population is much like Benny in The Mummy. Reaching for any old trinket in the face of possible extinction. Us non believers happily know that non existence is simply returning to the status quo. Although I do think when faced with the awareness of their own mortality, a lot of non believers would be quick to reconsider their perspectives. " Is that why it appears that most people you see heading to church on a Sunday are more mature looking? | |||
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" It seems that atheists are not as big as it seems " I don't believe that | |||
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"Although I do think when faced with the awareness of their own mortality, a lot of non believers would be quick to reconsider their perspectives. " What a strange thing to say. I'm an atheist and clearly aware of my own mortality why on earth would I think that some childish belief in an invisible magical sky fairy would change things? The ridiculous thing is that believers in one particular god do not believe in the other 3000-5000 gods that exist. So they are basically one god less atheist than me. Religion is complete and utter nonsense. | |||
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"Seems the world's population is much like Benny in The Mummy. Reaching for any old trinket in the face of possible extinction. Us non believers happily know that non existence is simply returning to the status quo. Although I do think when faced with the awareness of their own mortality, a lot of non believers would be quick to reconsider their perspectives. Is that why it appears that most people you see heading to church on a Sunday are more mature looking?" Possibly, but don't quote me on that . There is however evidence that people who experience near death experience or similar crises develop a greater appreciation for religious activity and the meaning to life. Make of that what you will. | |||
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"Although I do think when faced with the awareness of their own mortality, a lot of non believers would be quick to reconsider their perspectives. What a strange thing to say. I'm an atheist and clearly aware of my own mortality why on earth would I think that some childish belief in an invisible magical sky fairy would change things? The ridiculous thing is that believers in one particular god do not believe in the other 3000-5000 gods that exist. So they are basically one god less atheist than me. Religion is complete and utter nonsense." It is called Mortality Salience. You can read up papers and research on Terror management theory. I didn't come up wit it. | |||
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"I was interested to know on what place christianity came on and I was a bit surprised that it is nr1, did you know it? Here is the placings: 1 Christianity 2.4 billion 33% 2 Islam 1.8 billion 24.1% 3 Secular/Nonreligious/Agnostic/Atheist 4 1.2 billion 16% 5 Hinduism 1.15 billion 15% It seems that atheists are not as big as it seems " Why has this come as a shock? A more telling measure would be change in proportion over time. | |||
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"Source for that data? Always quite the source Yes it was on wikipedia if you search for What is the largest religion in the world 2019?. Wiki has never been wrong about anything ever has it?????? Religion is fast becoming ignored and I doubt it will last another hundred years or so " That religion is fast becoming ignored is a western phenomenon. Which is ironic because in the case of Christianity, it was the West that sold it to other parts of the world albeit selfishly as a control mechanism. Here is another easily found source showing that religion is actually growing... https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/04/05/christians-remain-worlds-largest-religious-group-but-they-are-declining-in-europe/ | |||
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"Seems the world's population is much like Benny in The Mummy. Reaching for any old trinket in the face of possible extinction. Us non believers happily know that non existence is simply returning to the status quo. Although I do think when faced with the awareness of their own mortality, a lot of non believers would be quick to reconsider their perspectives. " I disagree with that. Personally as someone who has never believed, and yes I’m christened as that is what you did in the day, I’ve had some points in my life where you’d expect your statement to take me but I’ve never reverted to ‘praying’ to something that I don’t believe in, I just dealt with it in my head, and that won’t change | |||
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" It seems that atheists are not as big as it seems I don't believe that " I am a rather big atheist | |||
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" It seems that atheists are not as big as it seems I don't believe that I am a rather big atheist " I'm a fairly large one too | |||
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"I was interested to know on what place christianity came on and I was a bit surprised that it is nr1, did you know it? Here is the placings: 1 Christianity 2.4 billion 33% 2 Islam 1.8 billion 24.1% 3 Secular/Nonreligious/Agnostic/Atheist 4 1.2 billion 16% 5 Hinduism 1.15 billion 15% It seems that atheists are not as big as it seems " if you ask how many actually believe as much as they're meant to believe, , and grade it that way it may look different. Ie.. if they are breaking their religions rules, it looks like they may be closer to being an Atheist. | |||
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" Although I do think when faced with the awareness of their own mortality, a lot of non believers would be quick to reconsider their perspectives. I disagree with that. Personally as someone who has never believed, and yes I’m christened as that is what you did in the day, I’ve had some points in my life where you’d expect your statement to take me but I’ve never reverted to ‘praying’ to something that I don’t believe in, I just dealt with it in my head, and that won’t change " Your opinion and experience is as valid as any other but it is neither representative nor indicative of what the research indicate on such matters. Again, not my opinion but I really can't be assed to find research papers to prove that and if I did, I doubt others would be interested or see it as anything other than an attempt to make me seem smart | |||
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"I was interested to know on what place christianity came on and I was a bit surprised that it is nr1, did you know it? Here is the placings: 1 Christianity 2.4 billion 33% 2 Islam 1.8 billion 24.1% 3 Secular/Nonreligious/Agnostic/Atheist 4 1.2 billion 16% 5 Hinduism 1.15 billion 15% It seems that atheists are not as big as it seems " Yes and vote leave is more popular than remain Evidencing the fact that a popular concept is not necessarily an intelligent reasoned logical or correct conclusion | |||
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"I was interested to know on what place christianity came on and I was a bit surprised that it is nr1, did you know it? Here is the placings: 1 Christianity 2.4 billion 33% 2 Islam 1.8 billion 24.1% 3 Secular/Nonreligious/Agnostic/Atheist 4 1.2 billion 16% 5 Hinduism 1.15 billion 15% It seems that atheists are not as big as it seems Yes and vote leave is more popular than remain Evidencing the fact that a popular concept is not necessarily an intelligent reasoned logical or correct conclusion" True | |||
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"Jehovah’s Bystander here. We witnessed it but didn’t want to get involved." Do you knock on doors and tell people how indifferent you are? | |||
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"Source for that data? Always quite the source Yes it was on wikipedia if you search for What is the largest religion in the world 2019?." Cool | |||
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"What about Jedi Knights?" According to the last census the force is strong in me | |||
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"Jehovah’s Bystander here. We witnessed it but didn’t want to get involved. Do you knock on doors and tell people how indifferent you are?" We knock on doors.....then run away | |||
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"I was interested to know on what place christianity came on and I was a bit surprised that it is nr1, did you know it? Here is the placings: 1 Christianity 2.4 billion 33% 2 Islam 1.8 billion 24.1% 3 Secular/Nonreligious/Agnostic/Atheist 4 1.2 billion 16% 5 Hinduism 1.15 billion 15% It seems that atheists are not as big as it seems " where did you get your figures from? | |||
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"I was interested to know on what place christianity came on and I was a bit surprised that it is nr1, did you know it? Here is the placings: 1 Christianity 2.4 billion 33% 2 Islam 1.8 billion 24.1% 3 Secular/Nonreligious/Agnostic/Atheist 4 1.2 billion 16% 5 Hinduism 1.15 billion 15% It seems that atheists are not as big as it seems where did you get your figures from? " oh yeah the bible DUH! | |||
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"I was interested to know on what place christianity came on and I was a bit surprised that it is nr1, did you know it? Here is the placings: 1 Christianity 2.4 billion 33% 2 Islam 1.8 billion 24.1% 3 Secular/Nonreligious/Agnostic/Atheist 4 1.2 billion 16% 5 Hinduism 1.15 billion 15% It seems that atheists are not as big as it seems " which one are you shag? | |||
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"God gave us spirit, not of fear but of power and love and self-control. Peace is with us, fear is the bedfellow of others. " Doesn't God inspire fear of our mortal soul? | |||
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"God gave us spirit, not of fear but of power and love and self-control. Peace is with us, fear is the bedfellow of others. Doesn't God inspire fear of our mortal soul? " Don’t fear those that kill the body rather he that destroys the mortal soul? That’s one way of looking at but it can be interpreted how you want. The soul can die long before the body does, even more so in the modern day. Those that quantify happiness by how many likes they get on FB for instance? It could be argued that those people are dead of the soul. Should that be feared? I would say yes. | |||
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"Atheists seem so full of angst about something they have no interest in. I do pity them in some ways but that’s not to say that I would turn one away should they come to me for help." I'm an atheist No angst however anthropology, psychology and how the world works are high on my interest thus world religions are of course of great interest/ concern to me I'd appreciate you not make inaccurate negative generalisations about me thank you | |||
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"God gave us spirit, not of fear but of power and love and self-control. Peace is with us, fear is the bedfellow of others. Doesn't God inspire fear of our mortal soul? Don’t fear those that kill the body rather he that destroys the mortal soul? That’s one way of looking at but it can be interpreted how you want. The soul can die long before the body does, even more so in the modern day. Those that quantify happiness by how many likes they get on FB for instance? It could be argued that those people are dead of the soul. Should that be feared? I would say yes." I'm a human you suggest I have a soul Beyond a metaphor for my appreciation and understanding of nature I claim the soul does not exist Please give data that collaborates your assertion I have one to lose .thank you | |||
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"Atheists seem so full of angst about something they have no interest in. I do pity them in some ways but that’s not to say that I would turn one away should they come to me for help." I don’t think that’s true to be fair. I’m more agnostic/pragmatist. I am happy for people who gain comfort from their faith, sometimes even a little envious. We are what we are. | |||
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"God gave us spirit, not of fear but of power and love and self-control. Peace is with us, fear is the bedfellow of others. Doesn't God inspire fear of our mortal soul? Don’t fear those that kill the body rather he that destroys the mortal soul? That’s one way of looking at but it can be interpreted how you want. The soul can die long before the body does, even more so in the modern day. Those that quantify happiness by how many likes they get on FB for instance? It could be argued that those people are dead of the soul. Should that be feared? I would say yes. I'm a human you suggest I have a soul Beyond a metaphor for my appreciation and understanding of nature I claim the soul does not exist Please give data that collaborates your assertion I have one to lose .thank you" Data is for Adam from accounts. | |||
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"Atheists seem so full of angst about something they have no interest in. I do pity them in some ways but that’s not to say that I would turn one away should they come to me for help. I don’t think that’s true to be fair. I’m more agnostic/pragmatist. I am happy for people who gain comfort from their faith, sometimes even a little envious. We are what we are. " Nicely put. | |||
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"Atheists seem so full of angst about something they have no interest in. I do pity them in some ways but that’s not to say that I would turn one away should they come to me for help. I don’t think that’s true to be fair. I’m more agnostic/pragmatist. I am happy for people who gain comfort from their faith, sometimes even a little envious. We are what we are. " this. I dont think either side should waste energy in proving who's right or wrong;its a choice. Many kind acts are in the name of religion, just as many are carried out by non-believer's. Regardless, it should be born in mind that in other countries, religion is very important. We cant pick and chose which cultural aspects of humanity we respect. You either respect diversity or you dont? | |||
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"Seems the world's population is much like Benny in The Mummy. Reaching for any old trinket in the face of possible extinction. Us non believers happily know that non existence is simply returning to the status quo. Although I do think when faced with the awareness of their own mortality, a lot of non believers would be quick to reconsider their perspectives. Is that why it appears that most people you see heading to church on a Sunday are more mature looking?" I'm not mature and I go to church every sunday | |||
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"Seems the world's population is much like Benny in The Mummy. Reaching for any old trinket in the face of possible extinction. Us non believers happily know that non existence is simply returning to the status quo. Although I do think when faced with the awareness of their own mortality, a lot of non believers would be quick to reconsider their perspectives. " Naaa Religion when it's all said and done is for the weak and Afraid , spend your whole life afraid of death and cling on to the belief that there something out there better for you in the end,, Then waste your life trying AND failing to live by rules set down my men who for the most part were hateful and lived 2000+ years ago, or worse still follow rules set down by a king who wanted to ride another wife,, As I said for the weak and afraid, | |||
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"Seems the world's population is much like Benny in The Mummy. Reaching for any old trinket in the face of possible extinction. Us non believers happily know that non existence is simply returning to the status quo. Although I do think when faced with the awareness of their own mortality, a lot of non believers would be quick to reconsider their perspectives. Naaa Religion when it's all said and done is for the weak and Afraid , spend your whole life afraid of death and cling on to the belief that there something out there better for you in the end,, Then waste your life trying AND failing to live by rules set down my men who for the most part were hateful and lived 2000+ years ago, or worse still follow rules set down by a king who wanted to ride another wife,, As I said for the weak and afraid, " That’s a ridiculous statement. So every religious person is weak and afraid? I’m probably more afraid of death because I’m not a believer! | |||
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"I was interested to know on what place christianity came on and I was a bit surprised that it is nr1, did you know it? Here is the placings: 1 Christianity 2.4 billion 33% 2 Islam 1.8 billion 24.1% 3 Secular/Nonreligious/Agnostic/Atheist 4 1.2 billion 16% 5 Hinduism 1.15 billion 15% It seems that atheists are not as big as it seems which one are you shag? " I am nr1 and you? | |||
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" Naaa Religion when it's all said and done is for the weak and Afraid , spend your whole life afraid of death and cling on to the belief that there something out there better for you in the end,, Then waste your life trying AND failing to live by rules set down my men who for the most part were hateful and lived 2000+ years ago, or worse still follow rules set down by a king who wanted to ride another wife,, As I said for the weak and afraid, " Ridiculous statement... because someone had a religious belief they are weak and afraid if anything they pull strength from believing in something What anyone believes or their religion, no one should be belittled for their choices.... be respectful to others | |||
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"I was interested to know on what place christianity came on and I was a bit surprised that it is nr1, did you know it? Here is the placings: 1 Christianity 2.4 billion 33% 2 Islam 1.8 billion 24.1% 3 Secular/Nonreligious/Agnostic/Atheist 4 1.2 billion 16% 5 Hinduism 1.15 billion 15% It seems that atheists are not as big as it seems which one are you shag? I am nr1 and you? " Jesus is our king. | |||
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"Atheists seem so full of angst about something they have no interest in. I do pity them in some ways but that’s not to say that I would turn one away should they come to me for help." No, we just know enough about it to counter ludicrous claims, ethical inconsistencies, moral outrages and attempts to legislate based on religion. | |||
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"I don't think there's any need to insult people for their beliefs. (I'm an atheist BTW) " Exactly suggesting that I need pity because I state I'm atheist is an unnecessary insult | |||
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"God gave us spirit, not of fear but of power and love and self-control. Peace is with us, fear is the bedfellow of others. Doesn't God inspire fear of our mortal soul? Don’t fear those that kill the body rather he that destroys the mortal soul? That’s one way of looking at but it can be interpreted how you want. The soul can die long before the body does, even more so in the modern day. Those that quantify happiness by how many likes they get on FB for instance? It could be argued that those people are dead of the soul. Should that be feared? I would say yes. I'm a human you suggest I have a soul Beyond a metaphor for my appreciation and understanding of nature I claim the soul does not exist Please give data that collaborates your assertion I have one to lose .thank you Data is for Adam from accounts." Is it indeed and apparently you suggest I need pity | |||
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"I don't think there's any need to insult people for their beliefs. (I'm an atheist BTW) Exactly suggesting that I need pity because I state I'm atheist is an unnecessary insult" Or that religious people are weak. I followed my path, I came to my conclusions, I assume others, have done likewise and more power to them. | |||
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"God gave us spirit, not of fear but of power and love and self-control. Peace is with us, fear is the bedfellow of others. Doesn't God inspire fear of our mortal soul? Don’t fear those that kill the body rather he that destroys the mortal soul? That’s one way of looking at but it can be interpreted how you want. The soul can die long before the body does, even more so in the modern day. Those that quantify happiness by how many likes they get on FB for instance? It could be argued that those people are dead of the soul. Should that be feared? I would say yes." Are they dead or should they be forgiven and led into the light | |||
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"God gave us spirit, not of fear but of power and love and self-control. Peace is with us, fear is the bedfellow of others. Doesn't God inspire fear of our mortal soul? Don’t fear those that kill the body rather he that destroys the mortal soul? That’s one way of looking at but it can be interpreted how you want. The soul can die long before the body does, even more so in the modern day. Those that quantify happiness by how many likes they get on FB for instance? It could be argued that those people are dead of the soul. Should that be feared? I would say yes. I'm a human you suggest I have a soul Beyond a metaphor for my appreciation and understanding of nature I claim the soul does not exist Please give data that collaborates your assertion I have one to lose .thank you Data is for Adam from accounts." And baseless outlandish claims are for UKIP what is your point Mine is you have made claims about me with nothing tangible to validate your assertion x | |||
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"I was interested to know on what place christianity came on and I was a bit surprised that it is nr1, did you know it? Here is the placings: 1 Christianity 2.4 billion 33% 2 Islam 1.8 billion 24.1% 3 Secular/Nonreligious/Agnostic/Atheist 4 1.2 billion 16% 5 Hinduism 1.15 billion 15% It seems that atheists are not as big as it seems which one are you shag? I am nr1 and you? Jesus is our king." No myth is my king thank you | |||
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"Seems the world's population is much like Benny in The Mummy. Reaching for any old trinket in the face of possible extinction. Us non believers happily know that non existence is simply returning to the status quo. Although I do think when faced with the awareness of their own mortality, a lot of non believers would be quick to reconsider their perspectives. Naaa Religion when it's all said and done is for the weak and Afraid , spend your whole life afraid of death and cling on to the belief that there something out there better for you in the end,, Then waste your life trying AND failing to live by rules set down my men who for the most part were hateful and lived 2000+ years ago, or worse still follow rules set down by a king who wanted to ride another wife,, As I said for the weak and afraid, " Sir please do not insult those of belief the subject is vastly more complex than an insult which can easily be countered | |||
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"Data is for every aspect of our lives. How safe is/are our food, water, buildings? How do we allocate services? How many schools do we need? Etc forever. If you want to dispense with that personally in some areas of your life, good for you. I don't. " | |||
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" Naaa Religion when it's all said and done is for the weak and Afraid , spend your whole life afraid of death and cling on to the belief that there something out there better for you in the end,, Then waste your life trying AND failing to live by rules set down my men who for the most part were hateful and lived 2000+ years ago, or worse still follow rules set down by a king who wanted to ride another wife,, As I said for the weak and afraid, Ridiculous statement... because someone had a religious belief they are weak and afraid if anything they pull strength from believing in something What anyone believes or their religion, no one should be belittled for their choices.... be respectful to others " This, I agree with wholeheartedly. We should show respect for other people's choices and not belittle them for their belief or disbelief... | |||
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" Naaa Religion when it's all said and done is for the weak and Afraid , spend your whole life afraid of death and cling on to the belief that there something out there better for you in the end,, Then waste your life trying AND failing to live by rules set down my men who for the most part were hateful and lived 2000+ years ago, or worse still follow rules set down by a king who wanted to ride another wife,, As I said for the weak and afraid, Ridiculous statement... because someone had a religious belief they are weak and afraid if anything they pull strength from believing in something What anyone believes or their religion, no one should be belittled for their choices.... be respectful to others This, I agree with wholeheartedly. We should show respect for other people's choices and not belittle them for their belief or disbelief... " Would you consider being told you are an immoral sinner a form of belittling ? Do you consider being called a murderer for having an abortion after r pe belittling ? Does a person who considers you worthy of a punishment for sleeping with the same sex deserve your silence or respect I will also reiterate No thoughts deserve personal insults However negative thought processes that are openly verbalize are full open to have articulate counterpoints reciprocated | |||
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" Would you consider being told you are an immoral sinner a form of belittling ? Do you consider being called a murderer for having an abortion after r pe belittling ? Does a person who considers you worthy of a punishment for sleeping with the same sex deserve your silence or respect I will also reiterate No thoughts deserve personal insults However negative thought processes that are openly verbalize are full open to have articulate counterpoints reciprocated " You seem to be asking as if I am a representative of religious people for advocating mutual respect -). I have also seen religious people called names and ridiculed, and even physically harassed for their beliefs, sometimes by atheists and sometimes by people of other religious dispositions. Meaningful and intelligent debates/conversations can be held without people resorting to slurs or ridicule, is what I say. ! | |||
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" Naaa Religion when it's all said and done is for the weak and Afraid , spend your whole life afraid of death and cling on to the belief that there something out there better for you in the end,, Then waste your life trying AND failing to live by rules set down my men who for the most part were hateful and lived 2000+ years ago, or worse still follow rules set down by a king who wanted to ride another wife,, As I said for the weak and afraid, Ridiculous statement... because someone had a religious belief they are weak and afraid if anything they pull strength from believing in something What anyone believes or their religion, no one should be belittled for their choices.... be respectful to others This, I agree with wholeheartedly. We should show respect for other people's choices and not belittle them for their belief or disbelief... Would you consider being told you are an immoral sinner a form of belittling ? Do you consider being called a murderer for having an abortion after r pe belittling ? Does a person who considers you worthy of a punishment for sleeping with the same sex deserve your silence or respect I will also reiterate No thoughts deserve personal insults However negative thought processes that are openly verbalize are full open to have articulate counterpoints reciprocated " Normally an old dear cuts my hair but unfortunately we laid her to rest a short time ago so I had to visit a trendy unisex place that’s opened up in the village. The chap who cut my hair was gay and I have to profess to not being very comfortable with it, especially when he ‘accidentally’ touched my ear 5 times. While I wouldn’t turn a gay person away if they asked for help, it’s not something I’m very good at handling. I leave that sort of thing to the young & trendy among us. | |||
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"I don't think there's any need to insult people for their beliefs. (I'm an atheist BTW) " Well said. Shame more people are not this tolerant. Dave recently had to leave a social after someone sang a song slating Christians and praising Pagans. It's so frustrating when people have a go at Christians, but wouldn't dare slate other religions (not that any religion should be slated, merely accepted) | |||
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"I don't think there's any need to insult people for their beliefs. (I'm an atheist BTW) Well said. Shame more people are not this tolerant. Dave recently had to leave a social after someone sang a song slating Christians and praising Pagans. It's so frustrating when people have a go at Christians, but wouldn't dare slate other religions (not that any religion should be slated, merely accepted)" I could have a go at other religions if it makes you feel better ? | |||
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"I don't think there's any need to insult people for their beliefs. (I'm an atheist BTW) Well said. Shame more people are not this tolerant. Dave recently had to leave a social after someone sang a song slating Christians and praising Pagans. It's so frustrating when people have a go at Christians, but wouldn't dare slate other religions (not that any religion should be slated, merely accepted) I could have a go at other religions if it makes you feel better ? " We'd rather people accepted others religious beliefs without having a go. We'd also rather football fans dud likewise, but due to human nature, neither will ever happen. (out of interest, Dave is Christian, but Caroline has Pagan leanings) | |||
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"I don't think there's any need to insult people for their beliefs. (I'm an atheist BTW) Well said. Shame more people are not this tolerant. Dave recently had to leave a social after someone sang a song slating Christians and praising Pagans. It's so frustrating when people have a go at Christians, but wouldn't dare slate other religions (not that any religion should be slated, merely accepted)" I'd have to disagree. I don't have to accept or respect any beliefs (indeed, that way leads to trouble ). I have to acknowledge beliefs but retain the right to say that something is bad when it is demonstrably bad. | |||
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"When it comes to bullshit, big-time, major league bullshit, you have to stand in awe of the all-time champion of false promises and exaggerated claims, religion. No contest. No contest. Religion. Religion easily has the greatest bullshit story ever told. Think about it. Religion has actually convinced people that there’s an invisible man living in the sky who watches everything you do, every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do. And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and ch*k* and scream and cry forever and ever ’til the end of time! But He loves you. He loves you, and He needs money! He always needs money! He’s all-powerful, all-perfect, all-knowing, and all-wise, somehow just can’t handle money! Religion takes in billions of dollars, they pay no taxes, and they always need a little more. Now, you talk about a good bullshit story. Holy Shit! But I want you to know something, this is sincere, I want you to know, when it comes to believing in God, I really tried. I really, really tried. I tried to believe that there is a God, who created each of us in His own image and likeness, loves us very much, and keeps a close eye on things. I really tried to believe that, but I gotta tell you, the longer you live, the more you look around, the more you realize, something is fucked up. Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed. Results like these do not belong on the résumé of a Supreme Being. This is the kind of shit you’d expect from an office temp with a bad attitude. And just between you and me, in any decently-run universe, this guy would’ve been out on his all-powerful ass a long time ago." George Carlin. | |||
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"When it comes to bullshit, big-time, major league bullshit, you have to stand in awe of the all-time champion of false promises and exaggerated claims, religion. No contest. No contest. Religion. Religion easily has the greatest bullshit story ever told. Think about it. Religion has actually convinced people that there’s an invisible man living in the sky who watches everything you do, every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do. And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and ch*k* and scream and cry forever and ever ’til the end of time! But He loves you. He loves you, and He needs money! He always needs money! He’s all-powerful, all-perfect, all-knowing, and all-wise, somehow just can’t handle money! Religion takes in billions of dollars, they pay no taxes, and they always need a little more. Now, you talk about a good bullshit story. Holy Shit! But I want you to know something, this is sincere, I want you to know, when it comes to believing in God, I really tried. I really, really tried. I tried to believe that there is a God, who created each of us in His own image and likeness, loves us very much, and keeps a close eye on things. I really tried to believe that, but I gotta tell you, the longer you live, the more you look around, the more you realize, something is fucked up. Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed. Results like these do not belong on the résumé of a Supreme Being. This is the kind of shit you’d expect from an office temp with a bad attitude. And just between you and me, in any decently-run universe, this guy would’ve been out on his all-powerful ass a long time ago." I guess you like religion ? | |||
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"Source for that data? Always quite the source Yes it was on wikipedia if you search for What is the largest religion in the world 2019?. Wiki has never been wrong about anything ever has it?????? Religion is fast becoming ignored and I doubt it will last another hundred years or so " Only in western nations where the birth rate has plummeted, and atheists have the lowest birth rates. The trend is actually the opposite. There is an emerging population boom in highly religious areas of the world, such as Christians in Africa and Latin America and Muslims in the middle East and Africa. Combined with declining birth rates amongst atheists in Western nations and current migration patterns from these highly religious societies to atheist ones, atheism is on a demographic decline and society will become more religious from about 2050 onwards. Much like DNA, Culture is also subject to Darwinian pressures. Those which survive and prosper are those with the highest birthrates. I think we can see that across the board, the least religious a nation is and the more progressive it is socially, the lower the birthrates. These societies have existed in the past, and they imploded. That's why there is no great atheist civilisation. Atheism has repeatedly proven itself to be a civilisational dead end. A cultural suicide of sorts. The major world religions have survived violent suppression for millenia, and are still around and expanding. Only atheism has not yet proven itself. It probably will increase over the next decade or so, before collapsing in on itself due to the inevitable consequences of demographics. | |||
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"Source for that data? Always quite the source Yes it was on wikipedia if you search for What is the largest religion in the world 2019?. Wiki has never been wrong about anything ever has it?????? Religion is fast becoming ignored and I doubt it will last another hundred years or so Only in western nations where the birth rate has plummeted, and atheists have the lowest birth rates. The trend is actually the opposite. There is an emerging population boom in highly religious areas of the world, such as Christians in Africa and Latin America and Muslims in the middle East and Africa. Combined with declining birth rates amongst atheists in Western nations and current migration patterns from these highly religious societies to atheist ones, atheism is on a demographic decline and society will become more religious from about 2050 onwards. Much like DNA, Culture is also subject to Darwinian pressures. Those which survive and prosper are those with the highest birthrates. I think we can see that across the board, the least religious a nation is and the more progressive it is socially, the lower the birthrates. These societies have existed in the past, and they imploded. That's why there is no great atheist civilisation. Atheism has repeatedly proven itself to be a civilisational dead end. A cultural suicide of sorts. The major world religions have survived violent suppression for millenia, and are still around and expanding. Only atheism has not yet proven itself. It probably will increase over the next decade or so, before collapsing in on itself due to the inevitable consequences of demographics. " I guess us atheists are smart enough to have realised there are probably too many people on the planet The religious will catch up with us soon enough. They always do eventually | |||
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"Source for that data? Always quite the source Yes it was on wikipedia if you search for What is the largest religion in the world 2019?. Wiki has never been wrong about anything ever has it?????? Religion is fast becoming ignored and I doubt it will last another hundred years or so Only in western nations where the birth rate has plummeted, and atheists have the lowest birth rates. The trend is actually the opposite. There is an emerging population boom in highly religious areas of the world, such as Christians in Africa and Latin America and Muslims in the middle East and Africa. Combined with declining birth rates amongst atheists in Western nations and current migration patterns from these highly religious societies to atheist ones, atheism is on a demographic decline and society will become more religious from about 2050 onwards. Much like DNA, Culture is also subject to Darwinian pressures. Those which survive and prosper are those with the highest birthrates. I think we can see that across the board, the least religious a nation is and the more progressive it is socially, the lower the birthrates. These societies have existed in the past, and they imploded. That's why there is no great atheist civilisation. Atheism has repeatedly proven itself to be a civilisational dead end. A cultural suicide of sorts. The major world religions have survived violent suppression for millenia, and are still around and expanding. Only atheism has not yet proven itself. It probably will increase over the next decade or so, before collapsing in on itself due to the inevitable consequences of demographics. I guess us atheists are smart enough to have realised there are probably too many people on the planet The religious will catch up with us soon enough. They always do eventually " As mentioned. Collision course for extinction. Darwinianism in action. | |||
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"Source for that data? Always quite the source Yes it was on wikipedia if you search for What is the largest religion in the world 2019?. Wiki has never been wrong about anything ever has it?????? Religion is fast becoming ignored and I doubt it will last another hundred years or so Only in western nations where the birth rate has plummeted, and atheists have the lowest birth rates. The trend is actually the opposite. There is an emerging population boom in highly religious areas of the world, such as Christians in Africa and Latin America and Muslims in the middle East and Africa. Combined with declining birth rates amongst atheists in Western nations and current migration patterns from these highly religious societies to atheist ones, atheism is on a demographic decline and society will become more religious from about 2050 onwards. Much like DNA, Culture is also subject to Darwinian pressures. Those which survive and prosper are those with the highest birthrates. I think we can see that across the board, the least religious a nation is and the more progressive it is socially, the lower the birthrates. These societies have existed in the past, and they imploded. That's why there is no great atheist civilisation. Atheism has repeatedly proven itself to be a civilisational dead end. A cultural suicide of sorts. The major world religions have survived violent suppression for millenia, and are still around and expanding. Only atheism has not yet proven itself. It probably will increase over the next decade or so, before collapsing in on itself due to the inevitable consequences of demographics. I guess us atheists are smart enough to have realised there are probably too many people on the planet The religious will catch up with us soon enough. They always do eventually As mentioned. Collision course for extinction. Darwinianism in action. " I don't think having less children equals extinction | |||
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"I find that some atheist defend their cause so religiously that it is questionable. " I'm far more worried about how the religious defend their cause. We all know how that ends | |||
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" I guess us atheists are smart enough to have realised there are probably too many people on the planet The religious will catch up with us soon enough. They always do eventually As mentioned. Collision course for extinction. Darwinianism in action. I don't think having less children equals extinction " Really? And what do you think the inevitable outcome of having less than 1.45 children per woman is long term, when replacement fertility is 2.1 or more? Fertility rate of 1.5 means that each generation is 25% less than the previous generation. Extrapolate that long term. | |||
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"I find that some atheist defend their cause so religiously that it is questionable. I'm far more worried about how the religious defend their cause. We all know how that ends " Yes because Hitler was religious right ? | |||
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"I find that some atheist defend their cause so religiously that it is questionable. I'm far more worried about how the religious defend their cause. We all know how that ends " How so lol i am religous | |||
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"I'd say there are more people registered as believers.. From things such as Christenings and the like. Whether or not those children who had no choice in the matter grow up to believe in God/s is another thing entirely. I'd take those stats with a pinch of salt Shag. I know a lot of people who say they're Christian/Muslim on paper, but in reality, they're anything but. " Religious by association. Family tradition. What is expected of them etc. Indeed. | |||
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"I'd say there are more people registered as believers.. From things such as Christenings and the like. Whether or not those children who had no choice in the matter grow up to believe in God/s is another thing entirely. I'd take those stats with a pinch of salt Shag. I know a lot of people who say they're Christian/Muslim on paper, but in reality, they're anything but. Religious by association. Family tradition. What is expected of them etc. Indeed. " We can go further than religion though... What society is expecting of us ? What family, peer pressure... | |||
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"I find that some atheist defend their cause so religiously that it is questionable. I'm far more worried about how the religious defend their cause. We all know how that ends " Well we all saw how Communism and Naziism ended. Same way as the French Revolution. Fantastic spectacles of atheist horror, tyranny and oppression. | |||
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"I find that some atheist defend their cause so religiously that it is questionable. I'm far more worried about how the religious defend their cause. We all know how that ends Well we all saw how Communism and Naziism ended. Same way as the French Revolution. Fantastic spectacles of atheist horror, tyranny and oppression. " Forgot to mention massacres and genocide. | |||
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"Seems the world's population is much like Benny in The Mummy. Reaching for any old trinket in the face of possible extinction. Us non believers happily know that non existence is simply returning to the status quo. Although I do think when faced with the awareness of their own mortality, a lot of non believers would be quick to reconsider their perspectives. Is that why it appears that most people you see heading to church on a Sunday are more mature looking?" Old people spent a lot of time in church and read the bible a lot because.... they're cramming for their finals | |||
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"Seems the world's population is much like Benny in The Mummy. Reaching for any old trinket in the face of possible extinction. Us non believers happily know that non existence is simply returning to the status quo. Although I do think when faced with the awareness of their own mortality, a lot of non believers would be quick to reconsider their perspectives. Is that why it appears that most people you see heading to church on a Sunday are more mature looking? Old people spent a lot of time in church and read the bible a lot because.... they're cramming for their finals " | |||
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"I find that some atheist defend their cause so religiously that it is questionable. I'm far more worried about how the religious defend their cause. We all know how that ends Well we all saw how Communism and Naziism ended. Same way as the French Revolution. Fantastic spectacles of atheist horror, tyranny and oppression. Forgot to mention massacres and genocide. " You mean aside from the fact that on every belt buckle of the nazi uniform was inscribed 'In God We Trust' | |||
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"I find that some atheist defend their cause so religiously that it is questionable. I'm far more worried about how the religious defend their cause. We all know how that ends Well we all saw how Communism and Naziism ended. Same way as the French Revolution. Fantastic spectacles of atheist horror, tyranny and oppression. Forgot to mention massacres and genocide. You mean aside from the fact that on every belt buckle of the nazi uniform was inscribed 'In God We Trust' " No, I mean more the fact that it was official policy to suppress religion as Nazis were National Socialists. The "in God we trust buckles" were only found on a small minority of buckles, and were related to the nationalist Prussian military mottos in the 1800s from the days of Bismark - they were carrying on military nationalist tradition. There is insurmountable evidence that the socialist Nazi dictatorship tried to suppress and destroy christianity, from open persecution of the Catholic church, to sending thousands of priests to be executed in prison camps, and official policy to gradually dechristianise Germany over time as religion posed a threat to the authority of the state, just like communist Russia and China did and the French Revolutionaries before them. It wasn't just Jews who were killed in concentration camps, though they were the ones most targeted. | |||
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"I find that some atheist defend their cause so religiously that it is questionable. I'm far more worried about how the religious defend their cause. We all know how that ends Well we all saw how Communism and Naziism ended. Same way as the French Revolution. Fantastic spectacles of atheist horror, tyranny and oppression. Forgot to mention massacres and genocide. You mean aside from the fact that on every belt buckle of the nazi uniform was inscribed 'In God We Trust' No, I mean more the fact that it was official policy to suppress religion as Nazis were National Socialists. The "in God we trust buckles" were only found on a small minority of buckles, and were related to the nationalist Prussian military mottos in the 1800s from the days of Bismark - they were carrying on military nationalist tradition. There is insurmountable evidence that the socialist Nazi dictatorship tried to suppress and destroy christianity, from open persecution of the Catholic church, to sending thousands of priests to be executed in prison camps, and official policy to gradually dechristianise Germany over time as religion posed a threat to the authority of the state, just like communist Russia and China did and the French Revolutionaries before them. It wasn't just Jews who were killed in concentration camps, though they were the ones most targeted. " Hitler was a Catholic. The first concordat he made was with the Catholic church and they celebrated his birthday for years I implore you to check out the Christopher Hitchens debates on Youtube | |||
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"I was interested to know on what place christianity came on and I was a bit surprised that it is nr1, did you know it? Here is the placings: 1 Christianity 2.4 billion 33% 2 Islam 1.8 billion 24.1% 3 Secular/Nonreligious/Agnostic/Atheist 4 1.2 billion 16% 5 Hinduism 1.15 billion 15% It seems that atheists are not as big as it seems " Third will do for now... | |||
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"Source for that data? Always quite the source Yes it was on wikipedia if you search for What is the largest religion in the world 2019?." Figures are for 2012 tho. It says that in the article. | |||
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"I find that some atheist defend their cause so religiously that it is questionable. I'm far more worried about how the religious defend their cause. We all know how that ends Well we all saw how Communism and Naziism ended. Same way as the French Revolution. Fantastic spectacles of atheist horror, tyranny and oppression. Forgot to mention massacres and genocide. You mean aside from the fact that on every belt buckle of the nazi uniform was inscribed 'In God We Trust' No, I mean more the fact that it was official policy to suppress religion as Nazis were National Socialists. The "in God we trust buckles" were only found on a small minority of buckles, and were related to the nationalist Prussian military mottos in the 1800s from the days of Bismark - they were carrying on military nationalist tradition. There is insurmountable evidence that the socialist Nazi dictatorship tried to suppress and destroy christianity, from open persecution of the Catholic church, to sending thousands of priests to be executed in prison camps, and official policy to gradually dechristianise Germany over time as religion posed a threat to the authority of the state, just like communist Russia and China did and the French Revolutionaries before them. It wasn't just Jews who were killed in concentration camps, though they were the ones most targeted. Hitler was a Catholic. The first concordat he made was with the Catholic church and they celebrated his birthday for years I implore you to check out the Christopher Hitchens debates on Youtube " He was baptised Catholic as a child, but as an adult he was antichristian, holding science and the state as supreme. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler | |||
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"I'd say there are more people registered as believers.. From things such as Christenings and the like. Whether or not those children who had no choice in the matter grow up to believe in God/s is another thing entirely. I'd take those stats with a pinch of salt Shag. I know a lot of people who say they're Christian/Muslim on paper, but in reality, they're anything but. " Agreed. I know people who answer Christian on paperwork and things but they aren't practicing Christians or anything, just they've been to church once upon a time or sometimes people just associate with the religion because they've grown up around it. I'm glad that my parents decided not to have me christened or anything as they wanted me to be free to choose a religion when I was older if I wished to. I've had people say to be that I may find it difficult to get married in a church as a result and they seem a little taken aback when I ask why I would want to get married in a church. I don't want to get married at all though but that's a different story. | |||
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"I was interested to know on what place christianity came on and I was a bit surprised that it is nr1, did you know it? Here is the placings: 1 Christianity 2.4 billion 33% 2 Islam 1.8 billion 24.1% 3 Secular/Nonreligious/Agnostic/Atheist 4 1.2 billion 16% 5 Hinduism 1.15 billion 15% It seems that atheists are not as big as it seems Third will do for now..." Totally happy with 3rd place | |||
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"Atheists seem so full of angst about something they have no interest in. I do pity them in some ways but that’s not to say that I would turn one away should they come to me for help." I'm not full of angst, and I'm an Atheist . I love to watch mr Hitchens and friends debunking religion. | |||
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"Out the lot I think Hinduism is more spot on with their stance on life, death, nature and the universe " And the caste system? | |||
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"I'd be fairly willing to bet that only one of that list is a number that's growing quickly.... " Christianity in Africa? Budhism in China? | |||
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"I'd be fairly willing to bet that only one of that list is a number that's growing quickly.... Christianity in Africa? Budhism in China? " Yip to both, but I'd wager not at the same rate as deaths in those religions worldwide. I'm not fussed either way but census data in countries that are developed/developing consistently shows those describing themselves as "non religious" as a growing number. As the areas/continents/countries you've mentioned get more and more developed the numbers will drop - alboet it'll take some time. It's not really a religious thing, more a globalisation thing. To be fair the whole thing is pretty fascinating in terms of trends and movements. | |||
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"Atheists seem so full of angst about something they have no interest in. I do pity them in some ways but that’s not to say that I would turn one away should they come to me for help." We are full of angst about our mortality - that our life ends with nothing after. This angst seems pretty logical to me. Christopher Hitchens said that religions began multitheistic - gods of the sun, the rain, the earth... gods or everything. We then had the development of the monotheistic religions - Judaism, Christianity and Islam. And with each step religion gets nearer the truth... 0 | |||
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"I'm not strictly atheist, I've been known to talk like a pirate once a year. " in the same spirit, I'm registered as a Presleytarian minister in the states, which means I can marry people, but should be dressed as Elvis to do so. That's kinda like faith, right? | |||
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"I'm not strictly atheist, I've been known to talk like a pirate once a year. in the same spirit, I'm registered as a Presleytarian minister in the states, which means I can marry people, but should be dressed as Elvis to do so. That's kinda like faith, right? " Maybe....do you shoot the telly ever? I once had a thing for frisbeetarianism but there was too much dogma for me. | |||
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"Atheists seem so full of angst about something they have no interest in. I do pity them in some ways but that’s not to say that I would turn one away should they come to me for help. I'm not full of angst, and I'm an Atheist . I love to watch mr Hitchens and friends debunking religion. " For where jealousy and selfish ambition exist, there will be disorder James 3:16 | |||
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"Atheists seem so full of angst about something they have no interest in. I do pity them in some ways but that’s not to say that I would turn one away should they come to me for help. I'm not full of angst, and I'm an Atheist . I love to watch mr Hitchens and friends debunking religion. For where jealousy and selfish ambition exist, there will be disorder James 3:16" Don't trust anybody Austin 3:16 | |||
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"Seems the world's population is much like Benny in The Mummy. Reaching for any old trinket in the face of possible extinction. Us non believers happily know that non existence is simply returning to the status quo. Although I do think when faced with the awareness of their own mortality, a lot of non believers would be quick to reconsider their perspectives. Naaa Religion when it's all said and done is for the weak and Afraid , spend your whole life afraid of death and cling on to the belief that there something out there better for you in the end,, Then waste your life trying AND failing to live by rules set down my men who for the most part were hateful and lived 2000+ years ago, or worse still follow rules set down by a king who wanted to ride another wife,, As I said for the weak and afraid, " I can assure you I'm not weak or afraid. And im not afraid of death either | |||
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"I find that some atheist defend their cause so religiously that it is questionable. I'm far more worried about how the religious defend their cause. We all know how that ends Well we all saw how Communism and Naziism ended. Same way as the French Revolution. Fantastic spectacles of atheist horror, tyranny and oppression. " You seem to be conflating political ideologies with a lack of belief in gods. | |||
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"I find that some atheist defend their cause so religiously that it is questionable. I'm far more worried about how the religious defend their cause. We all know how that ends Well we all saw how Communism and Naziism ended. Same way as the French Revolution. Fantastic spectacles of atheist horror, tyranny and oppression. You seem to be conflating political ideologies with a lack of belief in gods." Thank you for saying what I couldn't be bothered to | |||
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"Although I do think when faced with the awareness of their own mortality, a lot of non believers would be quick to reconsider their perspectives. What a strange thing to say. I'm an atheist and clearly aware of my own mortality why on earth would I think that some childish belief in an invisible magical sky fairy would change things? The ridiculous thing is that believers in one particular god do not believe in the other 3000-5000 gods that exist. So they are basically one god less atheist than me. Religion is complete and utter nonsense." Sounds like something Ricky Gervais would say. | |||
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"I find that some atheist defend their cause so religiously that it is questionable. I'm far more worried about how the religious defend their cause. We all know how that ends Well we all saw how Communism and Naziism ended. Same way as the French Revolution. Fantastic spectacles of atheist horror, tyranny and oppression. You seem to be conflating political ideologies with a lack of belief in gods." Not conflating anything. It was a response to a snarky comment trying to establish an association between religions leading to bad outcomes. My point is that an association can be made both ways. | |||
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" Naaa Religion when it's all said and done is for the weak and Afraid , spend your whole life afraid of death and cling on to the belief that there something out there better for you in the end,, Then waste your life trying AND failing to live by rules set down my men who for the most part were hateful and lived 2000+ years ago, or worse still follow rules set down by a king who wanted to ride another wife,, As I said for the weak and afraid, Ridiculous statement... because someone had a religious belief they are weak and afraid if anything they pull strength from believing in something What anyone believes or their religion, no one should be belittled for their choices.... be respectful to others This, I agree with wholeheartedly. We should show respect for other people's choices and not belittle them for their belief or disbelief... Would you consider being told you are an immoral sinner a form of belittling ? Do you consider being called a murderer for having an abortion after r pe belittling ? Does a person who considers you worthy of a punishment for sleeping with the same sex deserve your silence or respect I will also reiterate No thoughts deserve personal insults However negative thought processes that are openly verbalize are full open to have articulate counterpoints reciprocated " " Would you consider being told you are an immoral sinner a form of belittling ? " No as I know my sins and no one can judge them but me " Do you consider being called a murderer for having an abortion after r pe belittling ? " No, it’s a personal choice that we have the right to make " Does a person who considers you worthy of a punishment for sleeping with the same sex deserve your silence or respect? " Neither. All of us are created equal and we choose who we want to be with, it is no one’s business | |||
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"Atheists seem so full of angst about something they have no interest in. I do pity them in some ways but that’s not to say that I would turn one away should they come to me for help. I'm not full of angst, and I'm an Atheist . I love to watch mr Hitchens and friends debunking religion. For where jealousy and selfish ambition exist, there will be disorder James 3:16" Let's just love and embrace one another. No matter where your religious denomination is placed on Top of the Pops this week. Jim 2:56 | |||
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