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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

Did God invent man or did man invent God ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Did God invent man or did man invent God ?"

The latter, definitely

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By *parkle1974Woman
over a year ago

Leeds

Neither because he/she/it doesn't exist.

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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago

Maldon and Peterborough

"Neither because he/she/it doesn't exist."

This

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Is this like the chicken and the egg thing?

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By *ex HolesMan
over a year ago

Up North

You’ll all burn in hell

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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago

Liverpool

"Neither because he/she/it doesn't exist.

This

Not correct.

Physically no, but was still invented by man. It is the concept of a god. The very fact that we are able to discuss it.

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By *adetMan
over a year ago

South of Ipswich

Just look at any of the 'holy' books and it's fairly easy to tell

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If God did invent man then He has put us in a bit of a non descript part of the Universe.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think people take religion too literally. The divine is within each of us and is the the part of you that has a moral compass, compassion and humanity. It’s the best of each of us. Religion merely tries to keep us right by creating rules for us to follow sadly it’s been twisted by greedy power hungry individuals. Only my opinion as always

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By *modDMan
over a year ago

Lichfield

"Neither because he/she/it doesn't exist."

That’s a bit like saying agoraphobia or anxiety doesn’t exist. Just because it doesn’t exist in front of your eyes, it doesn’t mean there’s no such thing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Did God invent man or did man invent God ?"

All of them, yes..

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By *modDMan
over a year ago

Lichfield

"I think people take religion too literally. The divine is within each of us and is the the part of you that has a moral compass, compassion and humanity. It’s the best of each of us. Religion merely tries to keep us right by creating rules for us to follow sadly it’s been twisted by greedy power hungry individuals. Only my opinion as always

Very good post.

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By *parkle1974Woman
over a year ago

Leeds

"Neither because he/she/it doesn't exist.

That’s a bit like saying agoraphobia or anxiety doesn’t exist. Just because it doesn’t exist in front of your eyes, it doesn’t mean there’s no such thing."

It's not saying that at all.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Very good post."

Thanks

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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago

There and to the left a bit

Learned man invented the various Gods primarily as a means to control the masses in days when there was more of an order to society and the peasants were more easily controlled and led

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By *adetMan
over a year ago

South of Ipswich

Very good post."

I don't see that religion has been twisted at all

Go and read any holy book and try not to be horrified at what God commands his people to do

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By *modDMan
over a year ago

Lichfield

"Neither because he/she/it doesn't exist.

That’s a bit like saying agoraphobia or anxiety doesn’t exist. Just because it doesn’t exist in front of your eyes, it doesn’t mean there’s no such thing.

It's not saying that at all."

Oh, all right then.

I spent minutes rehearsing that too.

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By *dsindyTV/TS
over a year ago

East Lancashire

Man invented God......then we began to fuck our heads up with what we created.

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By *modDMan
over a year ago

Lichfield

"Did God invent man or did man invent God ?"

Even in my profession I’ve never met anybody who believes the former.

I look at God as a provider of security and warmth, a kind of electric blanket without the CE markings.

I never question it, I just know it keeps me warm when I’m cold.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What if God was one of us?

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By *dsindyTV/TS
over a year ago

East Lancashire

"Did God invent man or did man invent God ?

Even in my profession I’ve never met anybody who believes the former.

I look at God as a provider of security and warmth, a kind of electric blanket without the CE markings.

I never question it, I just know it keeps me warm when I’m cold.

And that is the definition of faith.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What if God was one of us? "

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By *oxy_minxWoman
over a year ago

Scotland - Aberdeen

I will admit, I am a bit jealous of those that do have a faith to be honest, must be comforting at certain times.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Did God invent man or did man invent God ?

Even in my profession I’ve never met anybody who believes the former.

I look at God as a provider of security and warmth, a kind of electric blanket without the CE markings.

I never question it, I just know it keeps me warm when I’m cold.

And that is the definition of faith. "

It is and even though it’s not for me I respect that and am a little envious of people who have that to take comfort from.

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By *dsindyTV/TS
over a year ago

East Lancashire

"I will admit, I am a bit jealous of those that do have a faith to be honest, must be comforting at certain times. "

Faith is comforting, but (in my opinion) precludes questioning

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I will admit, I am a bit jealous of those that do have a faith to be honest, must be comforting at certain times. "

Spooky. I typed that at the same time as you!

I agree

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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

People of faith and especially Christians do seem to smile a lot which I find unnerving

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What if God was one of us? "

Do you mean just a slob like one of us?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Which one are we talking about here? There has been so many!

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By *modDMan
over a year ago

Lichfield

"I will admit, I am a bit jealous of those that do have a faith to be honest, must be comforting at certain times. "

My wife left me 2 days ago. I’m not a strong person and without God I don’t know what I would have turned to for solace.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Very good post.

I don't see that religion has been twisted at all

Go and read any holy book and try not to be horrified at what God commands his people to do"

A lot of that is surely man’s interpretation too?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What if God was one of us?

Do you mean just a slob like one of us?"

I think he means like a stranger on the bus

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By *dsindyTV/TS
over a year ago

East Lancashire

"What if God was one of us?

Do you mean just a slob like one of us?

I think he means like a stranger on the bus "

Trying to find his way home?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Did God invent man or did man invent God ?

Even in my profession I’ve never met anybody who believes the former.

I look at God as a provider of security and warmth, a kind of electric blanket without the CE markings.

I never question it, I just know it keeps me warm when I’m cold.

And that is the definition of faith. "

Agreed

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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago

There and to the left a bit

"Did God invent man or did man invent God ?

Even in my profession I’ve never met anybody who believes the former.

I look at God as a provider of security and warmth, a kind of electric blanket without the CE markings.

I never question it, I just know it keeps me warm when I’m cold.

Wouldn't he have CofE markings?

Sorry couldn't resist

In all seriousness, while I'm an atheist having been force fed religion as a kid and seen it for what it was from a personal perspective - I do "get" the idea of having faith in something as a form of comfort in times of need and as a result don't buy into knocking those that have religion - we all have times when we need something to cling onto for support, some of us turn to friends or family or even forums like this - others turn to an unknown being for guidance

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What if God was one of us?

Do you mean just a slob like one of us?"

He did make us in his image

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By *modDMan
over a year ago

Lichfield

"Did God invent man or did man invent God ?

Even in my profession I’ve never met anybody who believes the former.

I look at God as a provider of security and warmth, a kind of electric blanket without the CE markings.

I never question it, I just know it keeps me warm when I’m cold.

Wouldn't he have CofE markings?

Sorry couldn't resist

Top notch with the CofE

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By *adetMan
over a year ago

South of Ipswich

Very good post.

I don't see that religion has been twisted at all

Go and read any holy book and try not to be horrified at what God commands his people to do

A lot of that is surely man’s interpretation too?"

There's no interpretation needed with direct commandments

The God of the old testament is quite literally horrifying

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Did God invent man or did man invent God ?

Even in my profession I’ve never met anybody who believes the former.

I look at God as a provider of security and warmth, a kind of electric blanket without the CE markings.

I never question it, I just know it keeps me warm when I’m cold.

Wouldn't he have CofE markings?

Sorry couldn't resist

Human beings (or a lot of them) have an innate need for meaning. To know there’s a meaning and purpose to life. For me life itself is an awesome enough principal along with a desire to be a better person. Others need to think there’s a guiding hand perhaps?

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By *dsindyTV/TS
over a year ago

East Lancashire

If faith in God keeps you moving forward, then how can it be bad? Just because I dont believe doesn't mean we cant move forward together in harmony. Peace xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Very good post.

I don't see that religion has been twisted at all

Go and read any holy book and try not to be horrified at what God commands his people to do

A lot of that is surely man’s interpretation too?

There's no interpretation needed with direct commandments

The God of the old testament is quite literally horrifying

That was written down by a man though... I often wonder if there was error in translation, that’s if you go with there being a god (I don’t in the traditional sense)

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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

"Did God invent man or did man invent God ?

Even in my profession I’ve never met anybody who believes the former.

I look at God as a provider of security and warmth, a kind of electric blanket without the CE markings.

I never question it, I just know it keeps me warm when I’m cold.

Wouldn't he have CofE markings?

Sorry couldn't resist

Why do we need to aspire to be better people?

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By *adetMan
over a year ago

South of Ipswich

Very good post.

I don't see that religion has been twisted at all

Go and read any holy book and try not to be horrified at what God commands his people to do

A lot of that is surely man’s interpretation too?

There's no interpretation needed with direct commandments

The God of the old testament is quite literally horrifying

That was written down by a man though... I often wonder if there was error in translation, that’s if you go with there being a god (I don’t in the traditional sense)

That's my point. Man made

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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago

There and to the left a bit

"Did God invent man or did man invent God ?

Even in my profession I’ve never met anybody who believes the former.

I look at God as a provider of security and warmth, a kind of electric blanket without the CE markings.

I never question it, I just know it keeps me warm when I’m cold.

Wouldn't he have CofE markings?

Sorry couldn't resist

Exactly that - we all find our own way of getting through life and if someone individually has faith in something to achieve that then I have absolutely no problem with it.

I do have a problem with organised religion at a much higher level and the way it is used by those in power but that is a totally separate argument.

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By *oxy_minxWoman
over a year ago

Scotland - Aberdeen

"I will admit, I am a bit jealous of those that do have a faith to be honest, must be comforting at certain times.

My wife left me 2 days ago. I’m not a strong person and without God I don’t know what I would have turned to for solace. "

Well, I really do hope you find solace in your time of need

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By *modDMan
over a year ago

Lichfield

People who believe in God just take it on their stride and get on with their lives.

It’s the non-believers who tend to struggle and feel the need to reason with it and justify their own beliefs.

We, the believers, are the true hipsters.

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By *parkle1974Woman
over a year ago

Leeds

"Did God invent man or did man invent God ?

Even in my profession I’ve never met anybody who believes the former.

I look at God as a provider of security and warmth, a kind of electric blanket without the CE markings.

I never question it, I just know it keeps me warm when I’m cold.

That's called a duvet or electric blanket

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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

"People who believe in God just take it on their stride and get on with their lives.

It’s the non-believers who tend to struggle and feel the need to reason with it and justify their own beliefs.

We, the believers, are the true hipsters."

But who invented who ?

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By *modDMan
over a year ago

Lichfield

"People who believe in God just take it on their stride and get on with their lives.

It’s the non-believers who tend to struggle and feel the need to reason with it and justify their own beliefs.

We, the believers, are the true hipsters.

But who invented who ?"

To look on religion as an invention is an over-simplification.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Did God invent man or did man invent God ?

The latter, definitely"

Prove that God didn't create you since you're so sure and knowledgeable about it.

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By *modDMan
over a year ago

Lichfield

"Did God invent man or did man invent God ?

Even in my profession I’ve never met anybody who believes the former.

I look at God as a provider of security and warmth, a kind of electric blanket without the CE markings.

I never question it, I just know it keeps me warm when I’m cold.

That's called a duvet or electric blanket

You don’t like my analogies do you?

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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

"People who believe in God just take it on their stride and get on with their lives.

It’s the non-believers who tend to struggle and feel the need to reason with it and justify their own beliefs.

We, the believers, are the true hipsters.

But who invented who ?

To look on religion as an invention is an over-simplification."

Please explain..

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By *ex HolesMan
over a year ago

Up North

"[Removed by god at 01/11/19 21:35:00]"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Very good post."

Nice one.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What if God was one of us? "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Did God invent man or did man invent God ?

Even in my profession I’ve never met anybody who believes the former.

I look at God as a provider of security and warmth, a kind of electric blanket without the CE markings.

I never question it, I just know it keeps me warm when I’m cold.

Wouldn't he have CofE markings?

Sorry couldn't resist

Why do we need to aspire to be better people?"

Why should we not?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Very good post.

I don't see that religion has been twisted at all

Go and read any holy book and try not to be horrified at what God commands his people to do

A lot of that is surely man’s interpretation too?

There's no interpretation needed with direct commandments

The God of the old testament is quite literally horrifying

That was written down by a man though... I often wonder if there was error in translation, that’s if you go with there being a god (I don’t in the traditional sense)

That's my point. Man made

Yes I was agreeing lol

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By *modDMan
over a year ago

Lichfield

"People who believe in God just take it on their stride and get on with their lives.

It’s the non-believers who tend to struggle and feel the need to reason with it and justify their own beliefs.

We, the believers, are the true hipsters.

But who invented who ?

To look on religion as an invention is an over-simplification.

Please explain.."

If you read my other posts, you’ll see that I don’t feel the need to

There is no fear in love but perfect love casts out fear.

John 4:18

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By *parkle1974Woman
over a year ago

Leeds

Religion is the root of all evil...or is that alcohol??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Did God invent man or did man invent God ?

Even in my profession I’ve never met anybody who believes the former.

I look at God as a provider of security and warmth, a kind of electric blanket without the CE markings.

I never question it, I just know it keeps me warm when I’m cold.

Wouldn't he have CofE markings?

Sorry couldn't resist

Exactly that - we all find our own way of getting through life and if someone individually has faith in something to achieve that then I have absolutely no problem with it.

I do have a problem with organised religion at a much higher level and the way it is used by those in power but that is a totally separate argument."

Agreed

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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

"Did God invent man or did man invent God ?

Even in my profession I’ve never met anybody who believes the former.

I look at God as a provider of security and warmth, a kind of electric blanket without the CE markings.

I never question it, I just know it keeps me warm when I’m cold.

Wouldn't he have CofE markings?

Sorry couldn't resist

Why do we need to aspire to be better people?

Why should we not?

Well I aspire to be more badass.. in my V8 and driving to Scotland with music blaring...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"People who believe in God just take it on their stride and get on with their lives.

It’s the non-believers who tend to struggle and feel the need to reason with it and justify their own beliefs.

We, the believers, are the true hipsters."

As someone said, I sometimes envy those that have “faith”. Yet look at the abominable things done in the name of various “Gods”. My view is that man ignores, abuses or twists the meaning of god. For example most religions say killing is wrong yet many people do just that. But surely that’s man that wrong and not “God” (bearing in mind I believe he’s a moral compass not an entity)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Very good post.

Nice one. "

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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

"People who believe in God just take it on their stride and get on with their lives.

It’s the non-believers who tend to struggle and feel the need to reason with it and justify their own beliefs.

We, the believers, are the true hipsters.

Can he be both ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Religion is the root of all evil...or is that alcohol??"

The quote is “The love of money is the root of evil” I think

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"People who believe in God just take it on their stride and get on with their lives.

It’s the non-believers who tend to struggle and feel the need to reason with it and justify their own beliefs.

We, the believers, are the true hipsters.

Can he be both ?"

I think people need a language to frame their belief. In that sense... sort of yes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Religion is the root of all evil...or is that alcohol??

The quote is “The love of money is the root of evil” I think

Say it often enough and soon others quote it as truth but no idea where it originated from. Much like the fact of evolution.

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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

I can't disagree with Velouria...

I would lose.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Religion is the root of all evil...or is that alcohol??

The quote is “The love of money is the root of evil” I think

Say it often enough and soon others quote it as truth but no idea where it originated from. Much like the fact of evolution.

Yes and it’s often misquoted as “Money is the root of all evil”. There’s a difference

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By *modDMan
over a year ago

Lichfield

"People who believe in God just take it on their stride and get on with their lives.

It’s the non-believers who tend to struggle and feel the need to reason with it and justify their own beliefs.

We, the believers, are the true hipsters.

I pretty much agree with your conclusion.

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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

"People who believe in God just take it on their stride and get on with their lives.

It’s the non-believers who tend to struggle and feel the need to reason with it and justify their own beliefs.

We, the believers, are the true hipsters.

I pretty much agree with your conclusion.

So you believe there is no god

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I can't disagree with Velouria...

I would lose."

Lol maybe God IS a woman then

Happy to have all views explored though, fascinating topic with a personal interest for me

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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

Well if God in not an entity then how can hold exist.. ?

Is God a non entity ?

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By *modDMan
over a year ago

Lichfield

"I will admit, I am a bit jealous of those that do have a faith to be honest, must be comforting at certain times.

My wife left me 2 days ago. I’m not a strong person and without God I don’t know what I would have turned to for solace.

Well, I really do hope you find solace in your time of need

Oh don’t get me wrong; she’s only gone to Alicante with her family for a week but with God’s strength (and a 20% off voucher for Dominos pizza) I’ll get through.

Thanks anyway

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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago

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"Well if God in not an entity then how can hold exist.. ?

Is God a non entity ?"

Any God is whatever individuals interpret it to be - for some it's an entity, for others a non-existent thing, for others it will be a physical presence.

None of those interpretations are either right or wrong (apart from when they are used for control or personal gain), they're just individual interpretations personal to the person that holds them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well if God in not an entity then how can hold exist.. ?

Is God a non entity ?"

My view for what it’s worth is that humanity has always strived to be better, to evolve. As a species we have grown to have societies that are far from perfect but that at their core try to look after our weak, sick, young and elderly and to improve the quality of life for everyone. You could say all the positives religion tries to teach us. But whether you have many god or one god all races and creeds have that. So is “God” just a name we give to the divine spirit that lives within each one of us? I think so.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well if God in not an entity then how can hold exist.. ?

Is God a non entity ?

Any God is whatever individuals interpret it to be - for some it's an entity, for others a non-existent thing, for others it will be a physical presence.

None of those interpretations are either right or wrong (apart from when they are used for control or personal gain), they're just individual interpretations personal to the person that holds them."

This too

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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

"Well if God in not an entity then how can hold exist.. ?

Is God a non entity ?

Any God is whatever individuals interpret it to be - for some it's an entity, for others a non-existent thing, for others it will be a physical presence.

None of those interpretations are either right or wrong (apart from when they are used for control or personal gain), they're just individual interpretations personal to the person that holds them."

Well I am not sure it can be all three. It kind of suggests that God is an imaginary character

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By *oxy_minxWoman
over a year ago

Scotland - Aberdeen

"I will admit, I am a bit jealous of those that do have a faith to be honest, must be comforting at certain times.

My wife left me 2 days ago. I’m not a strong person and without God I don’t know what I would have turned to for solace.

Well, I really do hope you find solace in your time of need

Oh don’t get me wrong; she’s only gone to Alicante with her family for a week but with God’s strength (and a 20% off voucher for Dominos pizza) I’ll get through.

Thanks anyway

Ha Bloody Ha, will be the last time I try and show some compassion on here! Enjoy your bloody pizza

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By *modDMan
over a year ago

Lichfield

"I will admit, I am a bit jealous of those that do have a faith to be honest, must be comforting at certain times.

My wife left me 2 days ago. I’m not a strong person and without God I don’t know what I would have turned to for solace.

Well, I really do hope you find solace in your time of need

Oh don’t get me wrong; she’s only gone to Alicante with her family for a week but with God’s strength (and a 20% off voucher for Dominos pizza) I’ll get through.

Thanks anyway

Ha Bloody Ha, will be the last time I try and show some compassion on here! Enjoy your bloody pizza

Sorry Foxy. I promise to spend the rest of my life making it up to you.

Well the next 5 days anyway.

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over a year ago

"Well if God in not an entity then how can hold exist.. ?

Is God a non entity ?

Any God is whatever individuals interpret it to be - for some it's an entity, for others a non-existent thing, for others it will be a physical presence.

None of those interpretations are either right or wrong (apart from when they are used for control or personal gain), they're just individual interpretations personal to the person that holds them.

Well I am not sure it can be all three. It kind of suggests that God is an imaginary character "

Trinity figures in many beliefs? Father Son and Holy Ghost, maiden mother and crone, past present and future etc

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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago

There and to the left a bit

"Well if God in not an entity then how can hold exist.. ?

Is God a non entity ?

Any God is whatever individuals interpret it to be - for some it's an entity, for others a non-existent thing, for others it will be a physical presence.

None of those interpretations are either right or wrong (apart from when they are used for control or personal gain), they're just individual interpretations personal to the person that holds them.

Well I am not sure it can be all three. It kind of suggests that God is an imaginary character "

Not at all - they can all be different interpretations of the same entity - putting aside Norse, Greek and Roman Gods for a moment - many of the worlds religions have numerous crossovers between them in terms of prophets etc - so who's to say that it can't all be the same God dressed up differently by those interpretations?

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By *adetMan
over a year ago

South of Ipswich

"Well if God in not an entity then how can hold exist.. ?

Is God a non entity ?

Any God is whatever individuals interpret it to be - for some it's an entity, for others a non-existent thing, for others it will be a physical presence.

None of those interpretations are either right or wrong (apart from when they are used for control or personal gain), they're just individual interpretations personal to the person that holds them.

Well I am not sure it can be all three. It kind of suggests that God is an imaginary character

This just adds weight to the man made argument

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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

I agree GM but do you think he exists? Did we make him or did he make us ?

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over a year ago

"I agree GM but do you think he exists? Did we make him or did he make us ?"

Perhaps it would help others answer if you defined your question better. You’ve framed the question in that context. Implying you think “he” is an “entity” if you see what I mean ??

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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago

There and to the left a bit

"Well if God in not an entity then how can hold exist.. ?

Is God a non entity ?

Any God is whatever individuals interpret it to be - for some it's an entity, for others a non-existent thing, for others it will be a physical presence.

None of those interpretations are either right or wrong (apart from when they are used for control or personal gain), they're just individual interpretations personal to the person that holds them.

Well I am not sure it can be all three. It kind of suggests that God is an imaginary character

This just adds weight to the man made argument

I'm not saying it doesn't - as a non-believer I think all religion is man made as I said further up, but as I also said I can appreciate that for some believing provides a level of comfort and guidance and it was from that perspective my point was derived

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

God is simply a human construct to explain what we couldn’t through science

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By *adetMan
over a year ago

South of Ipswich

"I agree GM but do you think he exists? Did we make him or did he make us ?

Perhaps it would help others answer if you defined your question better. You’ve framed the question in that context. Implying you think “he” is an “entity” if you see what I mean ??

I definitely believe God exists in people's minds but so do lots of things

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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago

There and to the left a bit

"I agree GM but do you think he exists? Did we make him or did he make us ?

Perhaps it would help others answer if you defined your question better. You’ve framed the question in that context. Implying you think “he” is an “entity” if you see what I mean ??

I definitely believe God exists in people's minds but so do lots of things

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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

"Well if God in not an entity then how can hold exist.. ?

Is God a non entity ?

Any God is whatever individuals interpret it to be - for some it's an entity, for others a non-existent thing, for others it will be a physical presence.

None of those interpretations are either right or wrong (apart from when they are used for control or personal gain), they're just individual interpretations personal to the person that holds them.

Well I am not sure it can be all three. It kind of suggests that God is an imaginary character

This just adds weight to the man made argument

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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

"I agree GM but do you think he exists? Did we make him or did he make us ?

Perhaps it would help others answer if you defined your question better. You’ve framed the question in that context. Implying you think “he” is an “entity” if you see what I mean ??

I could have phrased it better. I suppose my question is, does God actually exist or is God an imaginary friend ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well if God in not an entity then how can hold exist.. ?

Is God a non entity ?

Any God is whatever individuals interpret it to be - for some it's an entity, for others a non-existent thing, for others it will be a physical presence.

None of those interpretations are either right or wrong (apart from when they are used for control or personal gain), they're just individual interpretations personal to the person that holds them.

Well I am not sure it can be all three. It kind of suggests that God is an imaginary character

Or could there be one God and many didn't like this god so they started to make up their own using bits they liked and left out bits they didn't and so many god's evolved. And man has got so confused he's forgotten the origin it more probable, ignoring the origin. Just another possible interpretation.

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over a year ago

"I agree GM but do you think he exists? Did we make him or did he make us ?

Perhaps it would help others answer if you defined your question better. You’ve framed the question in that context. Implying you think “he” is an “entity” if you see what I mean ??

I could have phrased it better. I suppose my question is, does God actually exist or is God an imaginary friend ?

I think that's hard to determine. Much like you telling me of a beautiful lady you met. You go into great detail about her. I've not met her nor had any personal experience. Do I believe she exists or is a figment of your imagination. It may depend of if I trust you or find you a threat or her a threat as to how I believe.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well if God in not an entity then how can hold exist.. ?

Is God a non entity ?

Any God is whatever individuals interpret it to be - for some it's an entity, for others a non-existent thing, for others it will be a physical presence.

None of those interpretations are either right or wrong (apart from when they are used for control or personal gain), they're just individual interpretations personal to the person that holds them.

Well I am not sure it can be all three. It kind of suggests that God is an imaginary character

Or maybe God appears to man in the guise that fits each ones culture. So the many gods are in fact a one multi tasking god (I’m back with the woman theory again lol)

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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

Velouria. You are driving me nuts in a good way..

God I wish I had never started this thread...

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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago

There and to the left a bit

"I agree GM but do you think he exists? Did we make him or did he make us ?

Perhaps it would help others answer if you defined your question better. You’ve framed the question in that context. Implying you think “he” is an “entity” if you see what I mean ??

I could have phrased it better. I suppose my question is, does God actually exist or is God an imaginary friend ?

God is whatever the individual interprets it to be - for me it's a non-existent entity that was the construct of the powerful to control the masses that resulted in a number of morality tales (much akin to Aesops Fables) that were collected to provide religious teachings

For someone else God may well be an omnipotent being that guides their life and provides solace and belief etc

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Velouria. You are driving me nuts in a good way..

God I wish I had never started this thread...

My work here is done lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I agree GM but do you think he exists? Did we make him or did he make us ?

Perhaps it would help others answer if you defined your question better. You’ve framed the question in that context. Implying you think “he” is an “entity” if you see what I mean ??

I could have phrased it better. I suppose my question is, does God actually exist or is God an imaginary friend ?

For someone else God may well be an omnipotent being that guides their life and provides solace and belief etc"

And yes this

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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

"I agree GM but do you think he exists? Did we make him or did he make us ?

Perhaps it would help others answer if you defined your question better. You’ve framed the question in that context. Implying you think “he” is an “entity” if you see what I mean ??

I could have phrased it better. I suppose my question is, does God actually exist or is God an imaginary friend ?

For someone else God may well be an omnipotent being that guides their life and provides solace and belief etc"

Thank you GM and goodnight. It is late and I am weary...

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By *eedsSpoonMan
over a year ago

Leeds

"Neither because he/she/it doesn't exist."

At the risk of being contrary. I think I this means humans invented god.

Which I agree with wholeheartedly.

God doesnt exist, completely fabrication. God might as well be a character from a Harry Potter or Dr Suess book.

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By *ollydoesWoman
over a year ago

Shangri-La

"Well if God in not an entity then how can hold exist.. ?

Is God a non entity ?

Any God is whatever individuals interpret it to be - for some it's an entity, for others a non-existent thing, for others it will be a physical presence.

None of those interpretations are either right or wrong (apart from when they are used for control or personal gain), they're just individual interpretations personal to the person that holds them."

Brilliantly put

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By *orthantsblueeyesMan
over a year ago

Northampton

I don't believe, so the latter

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By *ollydoesWoman
over a year ago

Shangri-La

"Well if God in not an entity then how can hold exist.. ?

Is God a non entity ?

Any God is whatever individuals interpret it to be - for some it's an entity, for others a non-existent thing, for others it will be a physical presence.

None of those interpretations are either right or wrong (apart from when they are used for control or personal gain), they're just individual interpretations personal to the person that holds them.

Well I am not sure it can be all three. It kind of suggests that God is an imaginary character

Or maybe God appears to man in the guise that fits each ones culture. So the many gods are in fact a one multi tasking god (I’m back with the woman theory again lol)

Always been my thought. Like listening to the same song, just dancing it differently.

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By *VineMan
over a year ago

The right place

Surely both are possible

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By *inn_the_humanMan
over a year ago

Edinburgh

I'm pretty sure God is Morgan Freeman, in which case Mr and Mrs freeman invented God.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well if God in not an entity then how can hold exist.. ?

Is God a non entity ?

Any God is whatever individuals interpret it to be - for some it's an entity, for others a non-existent thing, for others it will be a physical presence.

None of those interpretations are either right or wrong (apart from when they are used for control or personal gain), they're just individual interpretations personal to the person that holds them.

Well I am not sure it can be all three. It kind of suggests that God is an imaginary character

Or maybe God appears to man in the guise that fits each ones culture. So the many gods are in fact a one multi tasking god (I’m back with the woman theory again lol)

Always been my thought. Like listening to the same song, just dancing it differently. "

I like that analogy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm pretty sure God is Morgan Freeman, in which case Mr and Mrs freeman invented God. "

But who invented THEM

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By *adetMan
over a year ago

South of Ipswich

"I'm pretty sure God is Morgan Freeman, in which case Mr and Mrs freeman invented God.

But who invented THEM

Known as the infinite regress

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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago

There and to the left a bit

"Neither because he/she/it doesn't exist.

At the risk of being contrary. I think I this means humans invented god.

Which I agree with wholeheartedly.

God doesnt exist, completely fabrication. God might as well be a character from a Harry Potter or Dr Suess book.

In my mind there is no doubt that any God is a complete fabrication as you suggest but that doesn't have to mean a God can't provide guidance and strength to individuals that need it either.

I have also often wondered what God will be celebrated in 2000 years time too - it could well be someone that we see today as a celebrity or even a weirdo like David Icke whose ramblings we all dismiss now but if some of what he says come to pass could be interpreted very differently in future.

So to use your analogy it's entirely possible that Harry Potter will come to be seen as a God and Ron, Hermione et al his disciples

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By *inn_the_humanMan
over a year ago

Edinburgh

"I'm pretty sure God is Morgan Freeman, in which case Mr and Mrs freeman invented God.

But who invented THEM

I dunno.... Buddha???

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By *SAchickWoman
over a year ago

Hillside desolate

"I'm pretty sure God is Morgan Freeman, in which case Mr and Mrs freeman invented God.

But who invented THEM

I dunno.... Buddha??? "

*shrugs* coastguard?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I guess it all depends on what the individual thinks god is, whether it's a white haired dude floating on a cloud, an elephant look-a-likey or a cloaked guy chucking a hammer around. I personally believe that the word "god" is just a term for various aspects of nature. Nature created the Heavens and Earth etc sounds a lot more sensible than any of the above doing it.

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By *ollydoesWoman
over a year ago

Shangri-La

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over a year ago

"I'm pretty sure God is Morgan Freeman, in which case Mr and Mrs freeman invented God.

But who invented THEM

Known as the infinite regress

That’s the infinite “no idea” response lol

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By *ollydoesWoman
over a year ago

Shangri-La

"Well if God in not an entity then how can hold exist.. ?

Is God a non entity ?

Any God is whatever individuals interpret it to be - for some it's an entity, for others a non-existent thing, for others it will be a physical presence.

None of those interpretations are either right or wrong (apart from when they are used for control or personal gain), they're just individual interpretations personal to the person that holds them.

Well I am not sure it can be all three. It kind of suggests that God is an imaginary character

Or maybe God appears to man in the guise that fits each ones culture. So the many gods are in fact a one multi tasking god (I’m back with the woman theory again lol)

Always been my thought. Like listening to the same song, just dancing it differently.

I like that analogy

Glad you got it.

" It aint what you do its the way that you do it" lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm pretty sure God is Morgan Freeman, in which case Mr and Mrs freeman invented God.

But who invented THEM

I dunno.... Buddha??? "

Hey I asked you first but... maybe

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I guess it all depends on what the individual thinks god is, whether it's a white haired dude floating on a cloud, an elephant look-a-likey or a cloaked guy chucking a hammer around. I personally believe that the word "god" is just a term for various aspects of nature. Nature created the Heavens and Earth etc sounds a lot more sensible than any of the above doing it."

Yep

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well if God in not an entity then how can hold exist.. ?

Is God a non entity ?

Any God is whatever individuals interpret it to be - for some it's an entity, for others a non-existent thing, for others it will be a physical presence.

None of those interpretations are either right or wrong (apart from when they are used for control or personal gain), they're just individual interpretations personal to the person that holds them.

Well I am not sure it can be all three. It kind of suggests that God is an imaginary character

Or maybe God appears to man in the guise that fits each ones culture. So the many gods are in fact a one multi tasking god (I’m back with the woman theory again lol)

Always been my thought. Like listening to the same song, just dancing it differently.

I like that analogy

Glad you got it.

" It aint what you do its the way that you do it" lol "

Great song too lol

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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

Man created God.. imo

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

Humans have had thousands of Gods, so I'm fairly sure it's something within people that drives that creativity

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

According to Hawking’s model, Big gangBang Theory, time started at that point. So; no time for any god to exist before hand. Even Adam & Eve (and to keep our alphabet mates happy) Adam & Steve, had belly buttons. Besides, those books haven’t had a revamp for a while. My bloody iPhone has an update every five minutes lately ffs.

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By *ollydoesWoman
over a year ago

Shangri-La

"According to Hawking’s model, Big gangBang Theory, time started at that point. So; no time for any god to exist before hand. Even Adam & Eve (and to keep our alphabet mates happy) Adam & Steve, had belly buttons. Besides, those books haven’t had a revamp for a while. My bloody iPhone has an update every five minutes lately ffs."

If you were to ask a devout person tho..god has always excisted. They call him the creater as he created the earth. The 7 days of creation...on the first day he created light. The book of genesis. "In the beginning God created the heaven and earth " to them god was never created he has always been there and he made the earth and all in it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Absolutely; and totally respect that. After all, none of us can prove that what we choose to follow is the truth. It’d be pretty boring if we could. We just like Prof Hawking’s model. Makes sense to us. That’s all.

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By *ollydoesWoman
over a year ago

Shangri-La

I was just throwing it out there. I survived 13 years at a convent school taught by nuns. ( luckily really lovely ones, although still had the cane a got that a few times...think thats where my kinks started

) most peoole in my class where haply with what they were told and excepted it. I was the one asking questions all the time about all this jazz. All my family are church on Sunday peoole. Im almost jealous of their faith and the comfort it can bring them. I just have too many questions. But i guess that is what faith is..believing it without questioning. When i pointed out the world was alot smaller to people back then..they didnt know the other side of the world excisted. So if there had been torrential rain and one place flooded..they could well think their world had flooded? So when they speak of Noah's ark...usualy thrown out class at around that point...lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Very interesting. Nuns conjure up certain images. Don’t watch the Conjuring either. It’s grim. Even poor Copernicus was told to shut the fuck up for suggesting we went round the sun as opposed to the other way round! Poor bastard was pretty much grounded for life for believing in that too (and proving it to an extent). Ironic that the Pope in charge at the time had his roof collapse in on him a short time later. A scientific bit of Ju Ju popping in to say hello there I wonder.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Did God invent man or did man invent God ?"
or is man god

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Man invented God as a was to bring fear in to people, to bend them to their will and use religion as an excuse to wage war!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What if God was one of us? "

Like a stranger on the bus?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Man invented God as a was to bring fear in to people, to bend them to their will and use religion as an excuse to wage war!"

What becomes of us unmalleable types then? Do we get scooped up by the bus that’s off to Lucifer’s house party?

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By *udewhennudeMan
over a year ago

newport

Who knows whether god exist but there is good reason scientifically to say there was a creationist e=mc sq proves that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I feel man invented God's and I feel wicked saying this, because I was raised Catholic.

Since reading things online and watching videos on YouTube it's got me thinking differently about my beliefs.

However when I have free time and I walk into an empty church, I have a feeling of peace and content.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What if God was one of us?

Like a stranger on the bus? "

Hmm. If he was just a slob like one of us as well, trying to make his way home....personally I’d be wanting a sneaky peek at his credentials.

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By *oeofsussexMan
over a year ago

Eastbourne

Oh grief! What a question on a porn site! I just don’t feel ready to share my theology PhD with you all! Not least because I’m leaving it until my next life!

If you really want to investigate the question read all the theology/philosophy you can. Hegel, Schlegel and Kant may be good starting points. Don’t get too bogged down in Nietsche - I did - read every word he wrote - in translation - and it made me a very depressive atheist for a year or two. Rather than reading a lot of Pullman and the other berk who writes a lot and dismisses God out of hand as a load of tosh, (very lazy philosophy) read some hard (probably Catholic) theology that puts the opposite view. I suggest Catholic, because, although I’m not, Catholic theology has benefited from an unbroken line of centuries upon centuries of very serious and deeply reflective theology from many highly intelligent and knowledgeable thinkers who are not necessarily always men, nor are they necessarily out of touch with the common person.

Read about St Benedict, Abelard and Heloise (a pivotal moment in the making of modern catholicism) and St. Thomas a Kempis. Also read Dietrich Bonhoeffer. These will challenge any atheistic bias in your mind, even if they don’t win you over!

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over a year ago

"I feel man invented God's and I feel wicked saying this, because I was raised Catholic.

Since reading things online and watching videos on YouTube it's got me thinking differently about my beliefs.

However when I have free time and I walk into an empty church, I have a feeling of peace and content. "

Love churches and cathedrals. It’s all about the amazing architecture though, and always feel like a fraud for enjoying it, for what many would call the wrong reasons. They’re beautiful buildings and invoke an almost jaw dropping silence when one walks in. But for us, that’s out of respect for the stone masons and perhaps for those fellow spectators that have their own beliefs.

What happened to all the kick arse stone masons anyway?

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By *lyhigh66Man
over a year ago

london

We evolved

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By *udewhennudeMan
over a year ago

newport

"I feel man invented God's and I feel wicked saying this, because I was raised Catholic.

Since reading things online and watching videos on YouTube it's got me thinking differently about my beliefs.

However when I have free time and I walk into an empty church, I have a feeling of peace and content.

What happened to all the kick arse stone masons anyway? "

They’re in Paris rebuilding Notre Dame

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A knowledgeable thinker? Seriously not being deliberately obtuse and pedantic, but how does that work exactly? As in who qualifies them as ‘knowledgable’ when they’re ‘thinkers’? Is it someone who’s thought for longer than they have and generally being accepted as the de facto standard, and by virtue of doing that have somehow managed to have that right automatically bestowed upon them? Or have I fucked it completely?

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By *ollydoesWoman
over a year ago

Shangri-La

"Oh grief! What a question on a porn site! I just don’t feel ready to share my theology PhD with you all! Not least because I’m leaving it until my next life!

Its not a porn site

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I feel man invented God's and I feel wicked saying this, because I was raised Catholic.

Since reading things online and watching videos on YouTube it's got me thinking differently about my beliefs.

However when I have free time and I walk into an empty church, I have a feeling of peace and content.

What happened to all the kick arse stone masons anyway?

They’re in Paris rebuilding Notre Dame"

Yep; let me know when they’ve finished and if they deferred to any algorithm pipped from a 3D printer to a stone cutting machine to help them. The rebuilt bit can only ever be a Pastiche. Right thing to do though and I hope it’s such a work of art that to the untrained eye, it’d be as though such a tragedy had never occurred.

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over a year ago

God didn’t create man or create the heaven and earth in seven days! God doesn’t exist! But I do believe there was a man called Jesus who lived in Nazareth and who did preach and inspired people to be good and honest and fair and be caring and loving. But he was a human being flesh and blood like you and me.

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over a year ago

"God didn’t create man or create the heaven and earth in seven days! God doesn’t exist! But I do believe there was a man called Jesus who lived in Nazareth and who did preach and inspired people to be good and honest and fair and be caring and loving. But he was a human being flesh and blood like you and me. "

Belinda Carlisle said Heaven was a Place on Earth.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If people quote things for long enough then they start believing them. Statements without any evidence or rational other than just stating something. Yes many non thinkers will soon follow that train of though because it gives reason and credibility that others think the same way.

Does this make it true? Not any more than if I were to say I've a massive cock. Unless I allow someone else actually to see it there is no evidence to prove it is or isn't other than my say so. That is what many seem to be staying here at times, trying to convince themselves without evidence.

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By *SAchickWoman
over a year ago

Hillside desolate

Belinda Carlisle said Heaven was a Place on Earth. "

Case closed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You left something vital out... IMO.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So, just who’s this Jesus chap then? He’s often referred to as the Lord Jesus Christ. We’re told to accept Mary’s his mum. That leaves his dad. Who’s that then? I thought the Lord was God. Very confusing. Is he a prophet or God? That’s one area where the Muslims seem to be very clear.

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By *adetMan
over a year ago

South of Ipswich

"So, just who’s this Jesus chap then? He’s often referred to as the Lord Jesus Christ. We’re told to accept Mary’s his mum. That leaves his dad. Who’s that then? I thought the Lord was God. Very confusing. Is he a prophet or God? That’s one area where the Muslims seem to be very clear."

He's none of the above. He may have existed as one of many 'messiahs' around at the time

Other than that the entire story is pretty much a fabrication

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By *RayMan
over a year ago

essex

So all you none believers should give up taking religious bank holidays then

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By *adetMan
over a year ago

South of Ipswich

"So all you none believers should give up taking religious bank holidays then

Religion and God - two very different things

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why is it the non believers seem to have a lot more to say about something they don't believe exists? Curious.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Why is it the non believers seem to have a lot more to say about something they don't believe exists? Curious."

Potential proof is finite, potential disproof is infinite.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Why is it the non believers seem to have a lot more to say about something they don't believe exists? Curious."

They’re questions for you believers. Feel free to provide an answer if you like. Besides, some of us are believers, just in an alternative model. Nothing wrong with sharing ideas.

Who’s Jesus to you then? Lord God or not?

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

"Who knows whether god exist but there is good reason scientifically to say there was a creationist e=mc sq proves that."

That's not proof.

But the scientific method. Is as good approach as any, to investigate and evaluate. I see it as most unlikely that any of our religions or Godsarise from anything but ourselves

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A knowledgeable thinker? Seriously not being deliberately obtuse and pedantic, but how does that work exactly? As in who qualifies them as ‘knowledgable’ when they’re ‘thinkers’? Is it someone who’s thought for longer than they have and generally being accepted as the de facto standard, and by virtue of doing that have somehow managed to have that right automatically bestowed upon them? Or have I fucked it completely?"
you know what thought did don’t you?

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By * and M lookingCouple
over a year ago

Worcester

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Religion has a place in my job role. I am atheist , always have been. I respect no religion, but I do try very hard to respect what religion means to people I care for and know.

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By * and M lookingCouple
over a year ago

Worcester

Well maybe whoever it was who wrote it had a profile on here as their grammar was atrocious too

Oh sorry if I offendeth thou.

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By *adetMan
over a year ago

South of Ipswich

"Religion has a place in my job role. I am atheist , always have been. I respect no religion, but I do try very hard to respect what religion means to people I care for and know."

You can still respect people without respecting their beliefs

If somebody told me they believed that fairies lived in their garden i couldn't possibly respect their belief

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By *r AmbassadorMan
over a year ago

Dublin

Religion all religion promises the same thing, happiness after we pass from this world, if you follow said religions rules and pay your fare in one way or the other.

This is fact we can all agree.

So based on this Fact,,,,,

Religion is for the weak and scared, simple as.

Living your whole life afraid of death so you so fall back on ancient stories, in the hope of peace of mind.

That's a bit like people here using 10 year old profile pics and claiming to be in their 40,s

Lol.

But what ever gets you through your day,,

It's all good.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My mum and dad created me thanks

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By *r AmbassadorMan
over a year ago

Dublin

God of fire created me.

For gingers are Beautiful, kissed by Fire

Lol

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By *partharmonyCouple
over a year ago

Ruislip

I think it's most likely humans invented the idea of God. They were looking for explanations for how the world came about and why it is the way it is. They lacked the methodology and tools to investigate it in the way we do now so they made up stories.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Humans created god for fear mongering

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By *lirtyFellaMan
over a year ago

a permanent state of arousal

There's a TED talk by a former christian missionary who tries to convert an indigenous tribe to christianity. They don't understand the concept of God tho, and end up converting him to atheism.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think it's most likely humans invented the idea of God. They were looking for explanations for how the world came about and why it is the way it is. They lacked the methodology and tools to investigate it in the way we do now so they made up stories."

In what way are out tools better? Have they actually got us any closer the answer? Are we still as unsure today as they were? I've yet to hear convincing evidence to the contrary. Genuinely interested in proof that there is no God/Creator/Being.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Genuinely interested in proof there is a god too. Oh, and whether Jesus is just plain old Jesus or whether he’s the Lord God too. Oh hang on...are those the same thing? Hmmm.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Genuinely interested in proof there is a god too. Oh, and whether Jesus is just plain old Jesus or whether he’s the Lord God too. Oh hang on...are those the same thing? Hmmm."

Your comment earlier raises an important question. You say, "who is he to you". The implication there is go is not real but just who or what we make him to be for ourselves. So just an idea or imagination. Neither of these lend themselves to belief, but rather illusion.

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich

If god is real he's the worst sort of arsehole.

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By *r AmbassadorMan
over a year ago

Dublin

"If god is real he's the worst sort of arsehole.

After Trump and Nigel and the Borris ohh and The Mogg ye mean lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have proof that there is no god, but you shouldn't question me and just have faith in me that I tell the truth.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have proof that there is no god, but you shouldn't question me and just have faith in me that I tell the truth."

That's the generally the argument most modern thinkers use. It's definitely far more advanced than our ancestors. A threatened response to the big question as if there is one then it causes all sorts of fuck ups for people's world views.

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By *partharmonyCouple
over a year ago

Ruislip

Do you not think that the tools science has available are not better than 1,000 years ago? We have tools for measuring with great accuracy, microscopes, detectors, computers etc. These are fairly recent creations.

Asking for evidence that a god exists is not sensible. The burden of proof lies with the person making the claim. You should ask for evidence from those who claim there is a god. In thousands of years, the best arguments theists have come up with have been very flimsy. There is no serious evidence for a god existing that I have ever come across, and have spent years looking. If there is no evidence I see no reason to take the hypothesis seriously.

That lack of evidence brings me to the conclusion I stated above.

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By *ensualtouch15Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch

My opinion based upon reams of data would be humans invented all God concepts

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That lack of evidence brings me to the conclusion I stated above. "

To play devils advocate here, some of the most recent scientific discoveries on dark matter etc are saying that there could be things that can't be proven by science. Human beings are not just blood and bone they have spiritual needs too. This does not necessarily mean a God like in the bible etc but nonetheless many need to know there is a point to life. This "meaning" could be loosely described as God and religion etc would then only be one way of describing it to others. Fables if you like, which pagan and ancient civilizations used to both frighten people into being better and also just illustrate morality.

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By *nferno sausageMan
over a year ago

Aberdeenshire

That lack of evidence brings me to the conclusion I stated above.

The end.

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