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"That’s always in the first few questions I ask x " Maybe I need a questionnaire!!! | |||
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"Been there too many times.... I’d prefer people to be just honest about it, but it seems a hard thing for some to do The fact they say, you wouldn’t have talked to me if you knew, is them purposely hiding it and just like a lie Totally.. to me that’s just disrespectful. Not my kinda person.. " | |||
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"Feel for you Straight honesty from the beginning for me ... the truth will out at some point so get it there from the start and let the other person decide for themself" Exactly.. I will never understand why people can’t just be upfront. It’s not hard.. | |||
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"You know when you have one of those facepalm moments... So you’ve been chatting to someone for a while and there’s been multiple references to things in your profile, so you know they’ve read it.. and you clearly state your preferences.. It suddenly clicks that they’re not single and their response is that they knew they wouldn’t get any conversation so they simply omit that bit. It’s not their fault you never asked directly... So my question is this fabbers... is omitting the truth as bad as a lie?!?! Straight delete from me, but what are your thoughts?!? " Definitely as bad. If you are not open and honest it's shady as. They will get found out sooner or later. | |||
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"That’s always in the first few questions I ask x Maybe I need a questionnaire!!! " Yes you do so hurry up and do one.... then pass it on to me too | |||
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"Been there too many times.... I’d prefer people to be just honest about it, but it seems a hard thing for some to do The fact they say, you wouldn’t have talked to me if you knew, is them purposely hiding it and just like a lie Totally.. to me that’s just disrespectful. Not my kinda person.. " For me it’s let me make my own mind up, it doesn’t mean I’ll stop talking to you but the conversation is likely to be more friends. I’m no saint, I’ve been with attached men in my time, but I made that decision having all the facts. All of them have been open from the beginning | |||
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"That’s always in the first few questions I ask x Maybe I need a questionnaire!!! " Haha I’ll lend you mine. Hasn’t failed me yet | |||
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"You know when you have one of those facepalm moments... So you’ve been chatting to someone for a while and there’s been multiple references to things in your profile, so you know they’ve read it.. and you clearly state your preferences.. It suddenly clicks that they’re not single and their response is that they knew they wouldn’t get any conversation so they simply omit that bit. It’s not their fault you never asked directly... So my question is this fabbers... is omitting the truth as bad as a lie?!?! Straight delete from me, but what are your thoughts?!? " I despise when that happens. Instant block with no explanation and maybe preemptively ask in the future, to save yourself the time and effort? x | |||
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"That’s always in the first few questions I ask x Maybe I need a questionnaire!!! Haha I’ll lend you mine. Hasn’t failed me yet " Yes please | |||
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"That’s always in the first few questions I ask x Maybe I need a questionnaire!!! Haha I’ll lend you mine. Hasn’t failed me yet Yes please " It’s like a game of guess who chatting to me . Do you have a beard? Do you have hair? | |||
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"That’s always in the first few questions I ask x Maybe I need a questionnaire!!! " Well put one together for you | |||
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"That’s always in the first few questions I ask x Maybe I need a questionnaire!!! Haha I’ll lend you mine. Hasn’t failed me yet Yes please It’s like a game of guess who chatting to me . Do you have a beard? Do you have hair? " Brilliant | |||
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"Been there too many times.... I’d prefer people to be just honest about it, but it seems a hard thing for some to do The fact they say, you wouldn’t have talked to me if you knew, is them purposely hiding it and just like a lie " I agree with this. If they deliberately didn't mention something that they knew would be an issue, it's a deliberate lie. Some people do meet married people so if it wasn't specifically asked about, I'd see no issue in it not being mentioned. | |||
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"Feel for you Straight honesty from the beginning for me ... the truth will out at some point so get it there from the start and let the other person decide for themself Exactly.. I will never understand why people can’t just be upfront. It’s not hard.. " Because honesty won't get them fucked. | |||
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" The fact they say, you wouldn’t have talked to me if you knew, is them purposely hiding it and just like a lie " Bingo. P | |||
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"You know when you have one of those facepalm moments... So you’ve been chatting to someone for a while and there’s been multiple references to things in your profile, so you know they’ve read it.. and you clearly state your preferences.. It suddenly clicks that they’re not single and their response is that they knew they wouldn’t get any conversation so they simply omit that bit. It’s not their fault you never asked directly... So my question is this fabbers... is omitting the truth as bad as a lie?!?! Straight delete from me, but what are your thoughts?!? " As a politician lol | |||
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"Been there too many times.... I’d prefer people to be just honest about it, but it seems a hard thing for some to do The fact they say, you wouldn’t have talked to me if you knew, is them purposely hiding it and just like a lie " That's deception, misdirection it's not a lie, being selective on the truth, politicians make a career of it. If you asked if they were married and they say no that is a lie | |||
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"When somebody deliberately withholds information, especially over something they know you have an issue over... Effectively lying by omission. They are intentionally misleading you, saying "you didn't ask" is a cheap cop out, to make them feel they can justify their actions. As far as I'm concerned, anyone who resorts to this kind of behaviour, for their own gains, obviously shows zero respect & regard for the other person involved, and makes them the lowest of the low " That's a can of worms, pretty much everyone on these sites are withholding information about them selves. Buy that assertion a every one is telling lies. Sorry it may be an uncomfortable truth but it is still truth | |||
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"Been there too many times.... I’d prefer people to be just honest about it, but it seems a hard thing for some to do The fact they say, you wouldn’t have talked to me if you knew, is them purposely hiding it and just like a lie That's deception, misdirection it's not a lie, being selective on the truth, politicians make a career of it. If you asked if they were married and they say no that is a lie" Hence why I said it’s just like a lie..... Deception in it’s simplest meaning in the dictionary ‘is defined as an untrue falsehood, or is the act of lying to or tricking someone. An example of deception is when you tell someone you are 30 when really you are 40’ | |||
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"When somebody deliberately withholds information, especially over something they know you have an issue over... Effectively lying by omission. They are intentionally misleading you, saying "you didn't ask" is a cheap cop out, to make them feel they can justify their actions. As far as I'm concerned, anyone who resorts to this kind of behaviour, for their own gains, obviously shows zero respect & regard for the other person involved, and makes them the lowest of the low That's a can of worms, pretty much everyone on these sites are withholding information about them selves. Buy that assertion a every one is telling lies. Sorry it may be an uncomfortable truth but it is still truth" | |||
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"Context is all. We all omit the truth it often makes us look better. It always deceives to an extent but sometimes the intend is good, sometimes not." This is where taking the moral high ground is is standing in the edge of our own precepis. All ommissions are lies has just been said. Now omissions rationalised and contextualise to what is acceptable and what isn't and that is purely subjective. To say withholding information is a lie then on that premise makes every one is lier | |||
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"When somebody deliberately withholds information, especially over something they know you have an issue over... Effectively lying by omission. They are intentionally misleading you, saying "you didn't ask" is a cheap cop out, to make them feel they can justify their actions. As far as I'm concerned, anyone who resorts to this kind of behaviour, for their own gains, obviously shows zero respect & regard for the other person involved, and makes them the lowest of the low " This is my stance too.. seems to be that people will make excuses because of the nature of the site, yet I expect the same level of respect I offer and get in every day life. | |||
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"Been there too many times.... I’d prefer people to be just honest about it, but it seems a hard thing for some to do The fact they say, you wouldn’t have talked to me if you knew, is them purposely hiding it and just like a lie Totally.. to me that’s just disrespectful. Not my kinda person.. For me it’s let me make my own mind up, it doesn’t mean I’ll stop talking to you but the conversation is likely to be more friends. I’m no saint, I’ve been with attached men in my time, but I made that decision having all the facts. All of them have been open from the beginning" Yes totally. Choice is paramount. I’m friends with attached people but don’t meet them. That’s my choice.. | |||
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"I think that a lie by omission is just as bad, I know that many rationalise it as "well you didn't ask directly" but frankly, that's just cowardly and deceitful. My ex used to do that, I had to be very careful about the wording of questions to get the answer. Honesty isnt just about answering questions, it's about telling the truth before being asked. " Agreed. I don’t think the fact it’s on this site makes a blind bit of difference. It’s basic courtesy.. smacks of mind games when you have to word a question to get a true answer. Ugly.. | |||
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"Surely most people on here are in a relationship? It's a swinger's site after all, not a singles dating app!?" It originated as a swingers site maybe, it has evolved to include all forms of sexual interests and allowing people to meet based on this. Blows my mind, you would think swinger would be much more welcoming and less judgemental considering the fuss that gets made about "vanilla" people judging them based on what they like. "We don't want to be judged! But you can't sit with us unless you are a swinger" ... Sorry Saff, kind of derailing the thread here. | |||
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"When somebody deliberately withholds information, especially over something they know you have an issue over... Effectively lying by omission. They are intentionally misleading you, saying "you didn't ask" is a cheap cop out, to make them feel they can justify their actions. As far as I'm concerned, anyone who resorts to this kind of behaviour, for their own gains, obviously shows zero respect & regard for the other person involved, and makes them the lowest of the low That's a can of worms, pretty much everyone on these sites are withholding information about them selves. Buy that assertion a every one is telling lies. Sorry it may be an uncomfortable truth but it is still truth" I was replying in context to the OP Of course we withhold information. I'm not going to tell every Tom Dick & Harry my entire life But the point here was somebody deliberately witheld the fact they were married, knowing the OP wouldn't meet someone who was | |||
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"You know when you have one of those facepalm moments... So you’ve been chatting to someone for a while and there’s been multiple references to things in your profile, so you know they’ve read it.. and you clearly state your preferences.. It suddenly clicks that they’re not single and their response is that they knew they wouldn’t get any conversation so they simply omit that bit. It’s not their fault you never asked directly... So my question is this fabbers... is omitting the truth as bad as a lie?!?! Straight delete from me, but what are your thoughts?!? " what you dont know doesn’t hurt you as long as you never find out | |||
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"You know when you have one of those facepalm moments... So you’ve been chatting to someone for a while and there’s been multiple references to things in your profile, so you know they’ve read it.. and you clearly state your preferences.. It suddenly clicks that they’re not single and their response is that they knew they wouldn’t get any conversation so they simply omit that bit. It’s not their fault you never asked directly... So my question is this fabbers... is omitting the truth as bad as a lie?!?! Straight delete from me, but what are your thoughts?!? " Absolutely...just as bad...a lie or an ommision it's all done for their benefit not yours... | |||
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"Surely most people on here are in a relationship? It's a swinger's site after all, not a singles dating app!? It originated as a swingers site maybe, it has evolved to include all forms of sexual interests and allowing people to meet based on this. Blows my mind, you would think swinger would be much more welcoming and less judgemental considering the fuss that gets made about "vanilla" people judging them based on what they like. "We don't want to be judged! But you can't sit with us unless you are a swinger" ... Sorry Saff, kind of derailing the thread here. " Derail away.. my point here is that people can be whatever they like.. as long as they don’t intentionally mislead another. | |||
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"Surely most people on here are in a relationship? It's a swinger's site after all, not a singles dating app!? It originated as a swingers site maybe, it has evolved to include all forms of sexual interests and allowing people to meet based on this. Blows my mind, you would think swinger would be much more welcoming and less judgemental considering the fuss that gets made about "vanilla" people judging them based on what they like. "We don't want to be judged! But you can't sit with us unless you are a swinger" ... Sorry Saff, kind of derailing the thread here. " If someone comes to a casual sex site, like fab, and expects to meet honest guys looking for a friendship etc, then more fool them. | |||
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"Surely most people on here are in a relationship? It's a swinger's site after all, not a singles dating app!? It originated as a swingers site maybe, it has evolved to include all forms of sexual interests and allowing people to meet based on this. Blows my mind, you would think swinger would be much more welcoming and less judgemental considering the fuss that gets made about "vanilla" people judging them based on what they like. "We don't want to be judged! But you can't sit with us unless you are a swinger" ... Sorry Saff, kind of derailing the thread here. If someone comes to a casual sex site, like fab, and expects to meet honest guys looking for a friendship etc, then more fool them." Why? Does the nature of the site make it acceptable to deceive? | |||
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"You know when you have one of those facepalm moments... So you’ve been chatting to someone for a while and there’s been multiple references to things in your profile, so you know they’ve read it.. and you clearly state your preferences.. It suddenly clicks that they’re not single and their response is that they knew they wouldn’t get any conversation so they simply omit that bit. It’s not their fault you never asked directly... So my question is this fabbers... is omitting the truth as bad as a lie?!?! Straight delete from me, but what are your thoughts?!? what you dont know doesn’t hurt you as long as you never find out " That is such an ugly thing to state.... | |||
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"You know when you have one of those facepalm moments... So you’ve been chatting to someone for a while and there’s been multiple references to things in your profile, so you know they’ve read it.. and you clearly state your preferences.. It suddenly clicks that they’re not single and their response is that they knew they wouldn’t get any conversation so they simply omit that bit. It’s not their fault you never asked directly... So my question is this fabbers... is omitting the truth as bad as a lie?!?! Straight delete from me, but what are your thoughts?!? what you dont know doesn’t hurt you as long as you never find out " Eurghh. Not for me. | |||
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"You know when you have one of those facepalm moments... So you’ve been chatting to someone for a while and there’s been multiple references to things in your profile, so you know they’ve read it.. and you clearly state your preferences.. It suddenly clicks that they’re not single and their response is that they knew they wouldn’t get any conversation so they simply omit that bit. It’s not their fault you never asked directly... So my question is this fabbers... is omitting the truth as bad as a lie?!?! Straight delete from me, but what are your thoughts?!? what you dont know doesn’t hurt you as long as you never find out That is such an ugly thing to state...." | |||
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"Surely most people on here are in a relationship? It's a swinger's site after all, not a singles dating app!? It originated as a swingers site maybe, it has evolved to include all forms of sexual interests and allowing people to meet based on this. Blows my mind, you would think swinger would be much more welcoming and less judgemental considering the fuss that gets made about "vanilla" people judging them based on what they like. "We don't want to be judged! But you can't sit with us unless you are a swinger" ... Sorry Saff, kind of derailing the thread here. If someone comes to a casual sex site, like fab, and expects to meet honest guys looking for a friendship etc, then more fool them. Why? Does the nature of the site make it acceptable to deceive? " What sort of "single" person is going to be attracted to a casual sex site? Why are you so naive? | |||
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"Surely most people on here are in a relationship? It's a swinger's site after all, not a singles dating app!? It originated as a swingers site maybe, it has evolved to include all forms of sexual interests and allowing people to meet based on this. Blows my mind, you would think swinger would be much more welcoming and less judgemental considering the fuss that gets made about "vanilla" people judging them based on what they like. "We don't want to be judged! But you can't sit with us unless you are a swinger" ... Sorry Saff, kind of derailing the thread here. If someone comes to a casual sex site, like fab, and expects to meet honest guys looking for a friendship etc, then more fool them. Why? Does the nature of the site make it acceptable to deceive? What sort of "single" person is going to be attracted to a casual sex site? Why are you so naive?" I’ve met plenty of lovely single people so you’re clearly misguided. | |||
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"Surely most people on here are in a relationship? It's a swinger's site after all, not a singles dating app!? It originated as a swingers site maybe, it has evolved to include all forms of sexual interests and allowing people to meet based on this. Blows my mind, you would think swinger would be much more welcoming and less judgemental considering the fuss that gets made about "vanilla" people judging them based on what they like. "We don't want to be judged! But you can't sit with us unless you are a swinger" ... Sorry Saff, kind of derailing the thread here. If someone comes to a casual sex site, like fab, and expects to meet honest guys looking for a friendship etc, then more fool them. Why? Does the nature of the site make it acceptable to deceive? " No but it makes it more likely | |||
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"Surely most people on here are in a relationship? It's a swinger's site after all, not a singles dating app!? It originated as a swingers site maybe, it has evolved to include all forms of sexual interests and allowing people to meet based on this. Blows my mind, you would think swinger would be much more welcoming and less judgemental considering the fuss that gets made about "vanilla" people judging them based on what they like. "We don't want to be judged! But you can't sit with us unless you are a swinger" ... Sorry Saff, kind of derailing the thread here. If someone comes to a casual sex site, like fab, and expects to meet honest guys looking for a friendship etc, then more fool them. Why? Does the nature of the site make it acceptable to deceive? What sort of "single" person is going to be attracted to a casual sex site? Why are you so naive?" Me! And the single guys I've met. | |||
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"Surely most people on here are in a relationship? It's a swinger's site after all, not a singles dating app!? It originated as a swingers site maybe, it has evolved to include all forms of sexual interests and allowing people to meet based on this. Blows my mind, you would think swinger would be much more welcoming and less judgemental considering the fuss that gets made about "vanilla" people judging them based on what they like. "We don't want to be judged! But you can't sit with us unless you are a swinger" ... Sorry Saff, kind of derailing the thread here. If someone comes to a casual sex site, like fab, and expects to meet honest guys looking for a friendship etc, then more fool them. Why? Does the nature of the site make it acceptable to deceive? What sort of "single" person is going to be attracted to a casual sex site? Why are you so naive? Me! And the single guys I've met. " Congratulations! | |||
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"Surely most people on here are in a relationship? It's a swinger's site after all, not a singles dating app!? It originated as a swingers site maybe, it has evolved to include all forms of sexual interests and allowing people to meet based on this. Blows my mind, you would think swinger would be much more welcoming and less judgemental considering the fuss that gets made about "vanilla" people judging them based on what they like. "We don't want to be judged! But you can't sit with us unless you are a swinger" ... Sorry Saff, kind of derailing the thread here. If someone comes to a casual sex site, like fab, and expects to meet honest guys looking for a friendship etc, then more fool them. Why? Does the nature of the site make it acceptable to deceive? No but it makes it more likely" | |||
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"Surely most people on here are in a relationship? It's a swinger's site after all, not a singles dating app!? It originated as a swingers site maybe, it has evolved to include all forms of sexual interests and allowing people to meet based on this. Blows my mind, you would think swinger would be much more welcoming and less judgemental considering the fuss that gets made about "vanilla" people judging them based on what they like. "We don't want to be judged! But you can't sit with us unless you are a swinger" ... Sorry Saff, kind of derailing the thread here. If someone comes to a casual sex site, like fab, and expects to meet honest guys looking for a friendship etc, then more fool them. Why? Does the nature of the site make it acceptable to deceive? No but it makes it more likely" Totally.. but I think it’s a cowardly way to behave when people are open about so much else. Choice is still paramount. | |||
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"People will always lie and deceive and cheat" They do. It isn't nice, it isn't how we hope life will be but it's reality | |||
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"People will always lie and deceive and cheat" Totally.. but it shows a lack of respect for others. Not something I want to be part of.. | |||
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"People will always lie and deceive and cheat Totally.. but it shows a lack of respect for others. Not something I want to be part of.. " Yes it does that's why I agree in honesty not everyone does though. | |||
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"Surely most people on here are in a relationship? It's a swinger's site after all, not a singles dating app!? It originated as a swingers site maybe, it has evolved to include all forms of sexual interests and allowing people to meet based on this. Blows my mind, you would think swinger would be much more welcoming and less judgemental considering the fuss that gets made about "vanilla" people judging them based on what they like. "We don't want to be judged! But you can't sit with us unless you are a swinger" ... Sorry Saff, kind of derailing the thread here. If someone comes to a casual sex site, like fab, and expects to meet honest guys looking for a friendship etc, then more fool them. Why? Does the nature of the site make it acceptable to deceive? No but it makes it more likely Totally.. but I think it’s a cowardly way to behave when people are open about so much else. Choice is still paramount." I agree, I wish we could all rely on honesty (actually I don't, I don't want to know I look awful in my new dress)but we can't. I'm only open about the things I want to be on here. | |||
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"You know when you have one of those facepalm moments... So you’ve been chatting to someone for a while and there’s been multiple references to things in your profile, so you know they’ve read it.. and you clearly state your preferences.. It suddenly clicks that they’re not single and their response is that they knew they wouldn’t get any conversation so they simply omit that bit. It’s not their fault you never asked directly... So my question is this fabbers... is omitting the truth as bad as a lie?!?! Straight delete from me, but what are your thoughts?!? what you dont know doesn’t hurt you as long as you never find out That is such an ugly thing to state...." it serves me well in all things not just people but restaurants and kitchens, in this lifestyle surely its better not to know what others are getting up to, I'd rather not know, veris and status updates cause trouble and people who cheat are since swinging started the basis of this lifestyle, when you go to a club and youre playing and a handsome guy comes along with an erection and you invite him to join in do you ask his marital status i think not, so in that case what you dont know gives you orgasms | |||
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"Surely most people on here are in a relationship? It's a swinger's site after all, not a singles dating app!? It originated as a swingers site maybe, it has evolved to include all forms of sexual interests and allowing people to meet based on this. Blows my mind, you would think swinger would be much more welcoming and less judgemental considering the fuss that gets made about "vanilla" people judging them based on what they like. "We don't want to be judged! But you can't sit with us unless you are a swinger" ... Sorry Saff, kind of derailing the thread here. If someone comes to a casual sex site, like fab, and expects to meet honest guys looking for a friendship etc, then more fool them. Why? Does the nature of the site make it acceptable to deceive? What sort of "single" person is going to be attracted to a casual sex site? Why are you so naive?" Single people can be swingers, why do people think it is only reserved for those in couples. As to why are ‘single’ people on a casual sex site, it’s simple not everyone is looking for a relationship even though it can develop with like minded individuals sometimes. This is no different than any of the other ‘dating’ apps, where many attached people also roam, I just choose not to be on them as I’m not looking to date and being on them would be a deception to those planning on meeting me. | |||
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"Surely most people on here are in a relationship? It's a swinger's site after all, not a singles dating app!? It originated as a swingers site maybe, it has evolved to include all forms of sexual interests and allowing people to meet based on this. Blows my mind, you would think swinger would be much more welcoming and less judgemental considering the fuss that gets made about "vanilla" people judging them based on what they like. "We don't want to be judged! But you can't sit with us unless you are a swinger" ... Sorry Saff, kind of derailing the thread here. If someone comes to a casual sex site, like fab, and expects to meet honest guys looking for a friendship etc, then more fool them. Why? Does the nature of the site make it acceptable to deceive? What sort of "single" person is going to be attracted to a casual sex site? Why are you so naive? Single people can be swingers, why do people think it is only reserved for those in couples. As to why are ‘single’ people on a casual sex site, it’s simple not everyone is looking for a relationship even though it can develop with like minded individuals sometimes. This is no different than any of the other ‘dating’ apps, where many attached people also roam, I just choose not to be on them as I’m not looking to date and being on them would be a deception to those planning on meeting me. " i agree | |||
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"People will always lie and deceive and cheat Totally.. but it shows a lack of respect for others. Not something I want to be part of.. Yes it does that's why I agree in honesty not everyone does though." Sadly not. A huge downfall with online friendship though. It allows people to create an image they want others to see. | |||
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"People will always lie and deceive and cheat Totally.. but it shows a lack of respect for others. Not something I want to be part of.. Yes it does that's why I agree in honesty not everyone does though. Sadly not. A huge downfall with online friendship though. It allows people to create an image they want others to see. " Also time consuming | |||
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"People will always lie and deceive and cheat Totally.. but it shows a lack of respect for others. Not something I want to be part of.. Yes it does that's why I agree in honesty not everyone does though. Sadly not. A huge downfall with online friendship though. It allows people to create an image they want others to see. " I agree but I also think the flip side of that is that you can control how much of yourself you reveal. | |||
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"You know when you have one of those facepalm moments... So you’ve been chatting to someone for a while and there’s been multiple references to things in your profile, so you know they’ve read it.. and you clearly state your preferences.. It suddenly clicks that they’re not single and their response is that they knew they wouldn’t get any conversation so they simply omit that bit. It’s not their fault you never asked directly... So my question is this fabbers... is omitting the truth as bad as a lie?!?! Straight delete from me, but what are your thoughts?!? what you dont know doesn’t hurt you as long as you never find out That is such an ugly thing to state....it serves me well in all things not just people but restaurants and kitchens, in this lifestyle surely its better not to know what others are getting up to, I'd rather not know, veris and status updates cause trouble and people who cheat are since swinging started the basis of this lifestyle, when you go to a club and youre playing and a handsome guy comes along with an erection and you invite him to join in do you ask his marital status i think not, so in that case what you dont know gives you orgasms " Wrong...huge erection or not... i absolutely do ask if they are married and if they are decent enough to admit it we don't play..i always look for a wedding ring or the indent of a removed ring...i do not want to be in the middle of anyone's deceit...we do state this on our profile... | |||
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"Surely most people on here are in a relationship? It's a swinger's site after all, not a singles dating app!?" Swingers fuck people. What kind of couple would be on here but not meeting for 3 years? It's not a wank app. | |||
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"Surely most people on here are in a relationship? It's a swinger's site after all, not a singles dating app!? Swingers fuck people. What kind of couple would be on here but not meeting for 3 years? It's not a wank app. " What's that got to do with anything? | |||
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"You know when you have one of those facepalm moments... So you’ve been chatting to someone for a while and there’s been multiple references to things in your profile, so you know they’ve read it.. and you clearly state your preferences.. It suddenly clicks that they’re not single and their response is that they knew they wouldn’t get any conversation so they simply omit that bit. It’s not their fault you never asked directly... So my question is this fabbers... is omitting the truth as bad as a lie?!?! Straight delete from me, but what are your thoughts?!? what you dont know doesn’t hurt you as long as you never find out That is such an ugly thing to state....it serves me well in all things not just people but restaurants and kitchens, in this lifestyle surely its better not to know what others are getting up to, I'd rather not know, veris and status updates cause trouble and people who cheat are since swinging started the basis of this lifestyle, when you go to a club and youre playing and a handsome guy comes along with an erection and you invite him to join in do you ask his marital status i think not, so in that case what you dont know gives you orgasms Wrong...huge erection or not... i absolutely do ask if they are married and if they are decent enough to admit it we don't play..i always look for a wedding ring or the indent of a removed ring...i do not want to be in the middle of anyone's deceit...we do state this on our profile..." wrong in your case but not everyones clubs cater for every scenario and when most people are in the moment conversation isnt prominent | |||
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"Surely most people on here are in a relationship? It's a swinger's site after all, not a singles dating app!? Swingers fuck people. What kind of couple would be on here but not meeting for 3 years? It's not a wank app. What's that got to do with anything?" What does your comment have to do with anything? | |||
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"Surely most people on here are in a relationship? It's a swinger's site after all, not a singles dating app!? It originated as a swingers site maybe, it has evolved to include all forms of sexual interests and allowing people to meet based on this. Blows my mind, you would think swinger would be much more welcoming and less judgemental considering the fuss that gets made about "vanilla" people judging them based on what they like. "We don't want to be judged! But you can't sit with us unless you are a swinger" ... Sorry Saff, kind of derailing the thread here. If someone comes to a casual sex site, like fab, and expects to meet honest guys looking for a friendship etc, then more fool them. Why? Does the nature of the site make it acceptable to deceive? What sort of "single" person is going to be attracted to a casual sex site? Why are you so naive?" I am single and on Fab. What are you saying about me and my right to be here? | |||
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"This is no different than any of the other ‘dating’ apps, where many attached people also roam, I just choose not to be on them as I’m not looking to date and being on them would be a deception to those planning on meeting me. " I got stung by this on a conventional dating site. I thought my non monogamous status was clear, but it wasn’t, which ended up causing a load of hurt after a few weeks of messages and a couple of really lovely dates. Not an issue with Fab, (I hope!). | |||
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"There is a growing line of thought that if someone lies to get sex, then the sex was not consented to and you should be able to get them charged. I agree with this line of thought. If you agree to have sex with Paul the 24 year old vegan who works in a health shop, you did not agree to sleep with Paul the 29 year old butcher. In the UK they have made it clear, telling lies to get sex is not a crime, but I think it should become one." How would they police it? Sex contracts maybe. | |||
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"There is a growing line of thought that if someone lies to get sex, then the sex was not consented to and you should be able to get them charged. I agree with this line of thought. If you agree to have sex with Paul the 24 year old vegan who works in a health shop, you did not agree to sleep with Paul the 29 year old butcher. In the UK they have made it clear, telling lies to get sex is not a crime, but I think it should become one. How would they police it? Sex contracts maybe." At least consent would be covered | |||
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"Been there too many times.... I’d prefer people to be just honest about it, but it seems a hard thing for some to do The fact they say, you wouldn’t have talked to me if you knew, is them purposely hiding it and just like a lie " . Totally. You can list it your profile if need be. I wouldn't recommend that though | |||
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"It runs deeper than omission. They saunter around the forum spouting their hypocrisy. Leading anyone reading to believe they’re any number of things, single, not cheating, don’t meet married folk etc etc. What they seem to forget is the six degrees of separation doesn’t exist on the forum. Eventually everyone knows they’re a hypocrite and omission would be pointless. Being on the forum could help prevent even striking up conversation with them in the first place. Unfortunately outside the forum it’s more difficult to combat omission and they’re more likely to get away with it. " You have a good point there Pink | |||
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"It runs deeper than omission. They saunter around the forum spouting their hypocrisy. Leading anyone reading to believe they’re any number of things, single, not cheating, don’t meet married folk etc etc. What they seem to forget is the six degrees of separation doesn’t exist on the forum. Eventually everyone knows they’re a hypocrite and omission would be pointless. Being on the forum could help prevent even striking up conversation with them in the first place. Unfortunately outside the forum it’s more difficult to combat omission and they’re more likely to get away with it. " Do you mean it's ok for women, but not men? | |||
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"Feel for you Straight honesty from the beginning for me ... the truth will out at some point so get it there from the start and let the other person decide for themself" I agree with the above | |||
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"You know when you have one of those facepalm moments... So you’ve been chatting to someone for a while and there’s been multiple references to things in your profile, so you know they’ve read it.. and you clearly state your preferences.. It suddenly clicks that they’re not single and their response is that they knew they wouldn’t get any conversation so they simply omit that bit. It’s not their fault you never asked directly... So my question is this fabbers... is omitting the truth as bad as a lie?!?! Straight delete from me, but what are your thoughts?!? " I get this alot, I point blank tell them that I clearly ask for single men only and I'm not interested in messing about with married/taken men. Yes, I do think it's bad. | |||
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"It runs deeper than omission. They saunter around the forum spouting their hypocrisy. Leading anyone reading to believe they’re any number of things, single, not cheating, don’t meet married folk etc etc. What they seem to forget is the six degrees of separation doesn’t exist on the forum. Eventually everyone knows they’re a hypocrite and omission would be pointless. Being on the forum could help prevent even striking up conversation with them in the first place. Unfortunately outside the forum it’s more difficult to combat omission and they’re more likely to get away with it. Do you mean it's ok for women, but not men?" Where did I say that? My comments are unisex, I can give you numerous examples of both males and females. As for it being ok for men or women to omit/lie and/or be hypocritical, who am I to judge. I just think it’s pointless | |||
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"I just accept that doing this kind of thing people will lie to me about what ever it might be to get what they want and if they really don't want me to know I probably won't find out, so I don't let it bother me and crack on anyway. " I should really tell you I'm married with 2 kids | |||
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"I just accept that doing this kind of thing people will lie to me about what ever it might be to get what they want and if they really don't want me to know I probably won't find out, so I don't let it bother me and crack on anyway. I should really tell you I'm married with 2 kids " | |||
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"You know when you have one of those facepalm moments... So you’ve been chatting to someone for a while and there’s been multiple references to things in your profile, so you know they’ve read it.. and you clearly state your preferences.. It suddenly clicks that they’re not single and their response is that they knew they wouldn’t get any conversation so they simply omit that bit. It’s not their fault you never asked directly... So my question is this fabbers... is omitting the truth as bad as a lie?!?! Straight delete from me, but what are your thoughts?!? " Is omitting the truth as bad as a lie?!?! For me is miniscule, not everyone is here to establish relationship, what others are doing consciously they are responsiblile of outcome. I could see you mentioned PREFERENCE multiple times on your profile, is it safe to say, peoples are ommiting truth is their preferences or cheat partners? May be they feel fun/thrill/spark. Morality is art means drawing line someplace... Oscar wilde | |||
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"You know when you have one of those facepalm moments... So you’ve been chatting to someone for a while and there’s been multiple references to things in your profile, so you know they’ve read it.. and you clearly state your preferences.. It suddenly clicks that they’re not single and their response is that they knew they wouldn’t get any conversation so they simply omit that bit. It’s not their fault you never asked directly... So my question is this fabbers... is omitting the truth as bad as a lie?!?! Straight delete from me, but what are your thoughts?!? Is omitting the truth as bad as a lie?!?! For me is miniscule, not everyone is here to establish relationship, what others are doing consciously they are responsiblile of outcome. I could see you mentioned PREFERENCE multiple times on your profile, is it safe to say, peoples are ommiting truth is their preferences or cheat partners? May be they feel fun/thrill/spark. Morality is art means drawing line someplace... Oscar wilde" i agree lets free our minds of restrictions and abide by adventure and lust | |||
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"It runs deeper than omission. They saunter around the forum spouting their hypocrisy. Leading anyone reading to believe they’re any number of things, single, not cheating, don’t meet married folk etc etc. What they seem to forget is the six degrees of separation doesn’t exist on the forum. Eventually everyone knows they’re a hypocrite and omission would be pointless. Being on the forum could help prevent even striking up conversation with them in the first place. Unfortunately outside the forum it’s more difficult to combat omission and they’re more likely to get away with it. Do you mean it's ok for women, but not men? Where did I say that? My comments are unisex, I can give you numerous examples of both males and females. As for it being ok for men or women to omit/lie and/or be hypocritical, who am I to judge. I just think it’s pointless " | |||
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