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Which is worse... Swinging or cheating?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

What do you think the General Public think is worse.... Swinging or cheating?

Both hit the headlines.

Are they perceived as equally bad?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Cheating is seen as more socially acceptable

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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL

Cheating. Swinging isn't this at all as its supposed to be done with knowledge and full consent. The two things are poles apart OP.

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By *eliWoman
over a year ago

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I think that society as a whole thinks that while cheating is bad, it's something that happens. Swinging is deviant and something only certain types of people do it - if you look at media depictions of the two, cheating is more often glamourised with hot people consuming an all burning lust but swinging is shady and done by pot bellied men with wrinkly wives.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I can only answer for myself, cheating.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think a lot of people believe they’re one and the same.

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By *moothman2000Man
over a year ago

Leicestershire

Cheating is worse.

It's a betrayal of trust.

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman
over a year ago

On a mooch

For me it is cheating, the lies and deception that comes with it. A couple swinging freely, either together or separately, know what the other is up to

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I think a lot of people believe they’re one and the same."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Someone already answered, you can only think what you think yourself and its impossible to know what the general public think so thinking about that is futile....

Cheating is what I think I think...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Cheating is worse.

It's a betrayal of trust."

I agree,

Nikki

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I think that society as a whole thinks that while cheating is bad, it's something that happens. Swinging is deviant and something only certain types of people do it - if you look at media depictions of the two, cheating is more often glamourised with hot people consuming an all burning lust but swinging is shady and done by pot bellied men with wrinkly wives."

They're both pre meditated. Both involve sex in some form. But only one has consent.

Perfect description of deviant swingers right there though.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Someone already answered, you can only think what you think yourself and its impossible to know what the general public think so thinking about that is futile....

Cheating is what I think I think..."

People do know what others think. They see, hear, read, speak, discuss.

Thinking about anything could be futile.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think we're on a par, but in different ways.. or have been for some time.

Cheaters hurt people and everyone has been stung in one way, or the other.

Swingers, they don't understand and many think we're all..

a) Riddled with diseases.

b) Unethical.

c) Immoral.

d) Sluts.

e) Easy.

f) Broken.

g) Selfish.

Which not all of us are, by any streeetch of the imagination.

I still think it'll change, I'm noticing a rise in the people on the site. A rise in new forum members, a rise in people on online dating sites - comfier with the idea of it. More acceptance and curiosity from men and women who hear about it sites like these, for the first time.

Younger generation seems a bit more open minded and in touch.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Someone already answered, you can only think what you think yourself and its impossible to know what the general public think so thinking about that is futile....

Cheating is what I think I think...

People do know what others think. They see, hear, read, speak, discuss.

Thinking about anything could be futile. "

Ppl can only ever think. I have no idea what you're thinking and certainly no knowledge, even if you tell me. You could be misleading me.... ...I think....

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By *umbriaman1962Man
over a year ago

outside of penrith

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By *umbriaman1962Man
over a year ago

outside of penrith

Problem is most vanilla friends dont understand swinging

They dont see how watch person you love been pleasured by someone else as you watching can make your love stronger.

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By *oggoneMan
over a year ago

Derry

What about those that do both?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think what I meant (and slightly off topic) was that if everything was knowledge and fact then there would be little point in debate, questioning or conversation - we would all just know. Thought and creativity is often wasted by assumption and pre-judgement imho.....

Live and let live

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool


"I think that society as a whole thinks that while cheating is bad, it's something that happens. Swinging is deviant and something only certain types of people do it - if you look at media depictions of the two, cheating is more often glamourised with hot people consuming an all burning lust but swinging is shady and done by pot bellied men with wrinkly wives."

Sadly there is a lot of truth in this. I've received a lot or judgement from friends for participating in threesomes or group sex with partners and for being poly despite the fact they have cheated on multiple partners and I've never cheated on anyone.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Cheating

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By *layfullsamMan
over a year ago

Solihull

I think that a lot of people are cheating and using fab to do it.

This gives the impression that swinging is cheating when obviously it isn't so I guess the question is are the cheaters on fab actually swingers or just after sex ?

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By *affron40Woman
over a year ago

manchester

Swinging is something many can’t understand because it involves consent to be with other people.

I don’t know anyone that thinks cheating is ok. Cheating involves lies and deception, regardless of circumstances. That to me will never be ok.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Cheating is far worse. The deceit and the guilt ensure that. I meet with my partners full approval. I met someone outside of the site and thus outside of what we had agreed on and it nearly ruined our relationship

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By *nabelle21Woman
over a year ago

B38


"I think that society as a whole thinks that while cheating is bad, it's something that happens. Swinging is deviant and something only certain types of people do it - if you look at media depictions of the two, cheating is more often glamourised with hot people consuming an all burning lust but swinging is shady and done by pot bellied men with wrinkly wives.

Sadly there is a lot of truth in this. I've received a lot or judgement from friends for participating in threesomes or group sex with partners and for being poly despite the fact they have cheated on multiple partners and I've never cheated on anyone. "

That is rough judgement

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What do you think the General Public think is worse.... Swinging or cheating?

Both hit the headlines.

Are they perceived as equally bad?"

Swinging?

Who cares what the general public think,it's your sex life not theirs.

Do you think strangers should discuss their sex life with you??

Cheating on your partner/spouse is just wrong

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By *nabelle21Woman
over a year ago

B38

I don't see how there can be any comparison between swinging, being above board all consenting adults and the lies and deceit of cheating

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By *ynecplCouple
over a year ago

Newcastle upon Tyne

Based on a discussion that happened where I work this week swinging is definitely seen as worse that cheating.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

I think the general public accept cheating and think that people in relationships who are happy about their partners having sex with other people are much, much worse.

It's a fact of our society that we much prefer lies to honesty.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In opinion cheating is worse

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool


"What do you think the General Public think is worse.... Swinging or cheating?

Both hit the headlines.

Are they perceived as equally bad?

Swinging?

Who cares what the general public think,it's your sex life not theirs.

Do you think strangers should discuss their sex life with you??

Cheating on your partner/spouse is just wrong

"

Because the "views of the general public" is a way of saying commonly and widely held views and unless you plan on never interacting with any family or friends, you tend to encounter them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Cheatings seen as worse from what I've seen/heard, however swingers are seemingly seen as middle aged/older weirdos in seedy places in weird outfits... which isn't too far from the truth really lol

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool


"Cheatings seen as worse from what I've seen/heard, however swingers are seemingly seen as middle aged/older weirdos in seedy places in weird outfits... which isn't too far from the truth really lol"

Look I wore that Mr. Blobby costume to a club one time!! I wish people would let it go

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By *wist my nipplesCouple
over a year ago

North East Scotland, mostly


"What do you think the General Public think is worse.... Swinging or cheating?

Both hit the headlines.

Are they perceived as equally bad?"

I think swinging is mostly misunderstood as it's presented as seedy and a bit grubby by the media. Most people wouldn't understand why a couple like us would be swingers - there's a perception that there must be something lacking in our relationship, which couldn't be further from the truth!

Cheating is something which many more people can identify with.

Mrs TMN x

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"Cheatings seen as worse from what I've seen/heard, however swingers are seemingly seen as middle aged/older weirdos in seedy places in weird outfits... which isn't too far from the truth really lol"

Oi my outfits aren't weird they're just a bit unusual, that's all. Anyway silver lame catsuits are coming back in fashion

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By *irkydirkyMan
over a year ago

Stevenage


"What do you think the General Public think is worse.... Swinging or cheating?

Both hit the headlines.

Are they perceived as equally bad?"

When did swinging become bad?

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By *oubleA123Couple
over a year ago

berwick


"Problem is most vanilla friends dont understand swinging

They dont see how watch person you love been pleasured by someone else as you watching can make your love stronger."

Thus is the way it is for us too.

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By *apiomanMan
over a year ago

Shipley

Public perception... Lots of generalisations, and different generations will see things differently. I think when if swinging is called “poly” it’s ok (yes there are differences but the public don’t generally see those subtleties). I think there is a certain amount of curiosity about swinging. And people who are judgemental about swinging are also judging on cheating, but some who find swinging ok find cheating unacceptable.

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool


"Public perception... Lots of generalisations, and different generations will see things differently. I think when if swinging is called “poly” it’s ok (yes there are differences but the public don’t generally see those subtleties). I think there is a certain amount of curiosity about swinging. And people who are judgemental about swinging are also judging on cheating, but some who find swinging ok find cheating unacceptable. "

I disagree. Some people tend to be mildly uncomfortable about the idea of having casual sex with people other than your partner with your partners knowledge. Poly however seems to collapse their entire world view of relationships.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think that society as a whole thinks that while cheating is bad, it's something that happens. Swinging is deviant and something only certain types of people do it - if you look at media depictions of the two, cheating is more often glamourised with hot people consuming an all burning lust but swinging is shady and done by pot bellied men with wrinkly wives.

Sadly there is a lot of truth in this. I've received a lot or judgement from friends for participating in threesomes or group sex with partners and for being poly despite the fact they have cheated on multiple partners and I've never cheated on anyone. "

A lot of swingers have a view on cheating, maybe they were the injured party and have it reflected in their opinion. But had many conversations, society as a whole think that swinging is a deviance, immoral and unchristian. This was reflected in a recent political opinion that brexit would cause an increase in dogging and immoral behaviour. Law doesn't recognise cheating either

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What do you think the General Public think is worse.... Swinging or cheating?

Both hit the headlines.

Are they perceived as equally bad?

Swinging?

Who cares what the general public think,it's your sex life not theirs.

Do you think strangers should discuss their sex life with you??

Cheating on your partner/spouse is just wrong

Because the "views of the general public" is a way of saying commonly and widely held views and unless you plan on never interacting with any family or friends, you tend to encounter them."

Just because others have views that differ from your own,doesn't make them right.

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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago

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I feel that the general public believe that swinging is worse. However there is nothing scientific in my opinion, I’m merely thinking back to conversations I’ve overheard over time

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By *andy_tomMan
over a year ago

wolverhampton

I can only answer for myself cheating, more fun and spicy, if done discreetly,

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool


"What do you think the General Public think is worse.... Swinging or cheating?

Both hit the headlines.

Are they perceived as equally bad?

Swinging?

Who cares what the general public think,it's your sex life not theirs.

Do you think strangers should discuss their sex life with you??

Cheating on your partner/spouse is just wrong

Because the "views of the general public" is a way of saying commonly and widely held views and unless you plan on never interacting with any family or friends, you tend to encounter them.

Just because others have views that differ from your own,doesn't make them right."

Views don't have to be right or wrong to effect you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Problem is most vanilla friends dont understand swinging

They dont see how watch person you love been pleasured by someone else as you watching can make your love stronger."

It can make it stronger. It can also destroy it.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Based on a discussion that happened where I work this week swinging is definitely seen as worse that cheating."

What did they say?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"What do you think the General Public think is worse.... Swinging or cheating?

Both hit the headlines.

Are they perceived as equally bad?

I think swinging is mostly misunderstood as it's presented as seedy and a bit grubby by the media. Most people wouldn't understand why a couple like us would be swingers - there's a perception that there must be something lacking in our relationship, which couldn't be further from the truth!

Cheating is something which many more people can identify with.

Mrs TMN x"

It does seem a common misconception that people swing because their partner is a crap shag. They've never experienced reclaim sex..!

I agree that cheating is something many can identify with. And shagging around.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Public perception... Lots of generalisations, and different generations will see things differently. I think when if swinging is called “poly” it’s ok (yes there are differences but the public don’t generally see those subtleties). I think there is a certain amount of curiosity about swinging. And people who are judgemental about swinging are also judging on cheating, but some who find swinging ok find cheating unacceptable. "

That's a really good point, never considered that, thank you.

Could be the same people who think both swinging and cheating are bad.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Definitely cheating. That said the majority of people don’t understand swinging.... and history shows anything that is misunderstood must be bad ????

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By *rNaughtyNickMan
over a year ago

Birmingham

Cheating

All those lies betrayal hurting the other partner the emotional headache etc...

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By *hrista BellendWoman
over a year ago

surrounded by twinkly lights

Definitely cheating as you have made a commitment to another person in whatever form and you have broken it.

Swinging has so many different levels and general public can be afraid of things they do not understand.

Also I am a poly and none of my friends understand my relationships let alone strangers.

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By *andy_tomMan
over a year ago

wolverhampton

Swing with a cheat that way you get the best of both ,

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Definitely cheating as you have made a commitment to another person in whatever form and you have broken it.

Swinging has so many different levels and general public can be afraid of things they do not understand.

Also I am a poly and none of my friends understand my relationships let alone strangers."

How much do you tell your friends about it?

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By *irkydirkyMan
over a year ago

Stevenage


"Definitely cheating as you have made a commitment to another person in whatever form and you have broken it.

Swinging has so many different levels and general public can be afraid of things they do not understand.

Also I am a poly and none of my friends understand my relationships let alone strangers."

Poly is basically swinging..

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By *r MoriartyMan
over a year ago

The Land that time forgot (Norfolk)

Definitely swinging, I had much more fun cheating.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think Cheating in Swinging is worse

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By *hrista BellendWoman
over a year ago

surrounded by twinkly lights


"Definitely cheating as you have made a commitment to another person in whatever form and you have broken it.

Swinging has so many different levels and general public can be afraid of things they do not understand.

Also I am a poly and none of my friends understand my relationships let alone strangers.

How much do you tell your friends about it?"

I explained the term and my reasoning behind it to them, they are all monogamous and rejected it.

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By *mmmMaybeCouple
over a year ago

West Wales


"Definitely cheating as you have made a commitment to another person in whatever form and you have broken it.

Swinging has so many different levels and general public can be afraid of things they do not understand.

Also I am a poly and none of my friends understand my relationships let alone strangers.

Poly is basically swinging.. "

Not really. It's more fwb with more attachments.

S

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By *100Man
over a year ago

Essex

Cheating is so bad and deceitful you will lose another's trust forever but swinging can make many memories and make a relationship stronger

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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago

Travelling


"Definitely cheating as you have made a commitment to another person in whatever form and you have broken it.

Swinging has so many different levels and general public can be afraid of things they do not understand.

Also I am a poly and none of my friends understand my relationships let alone strangers.

Poly is basically swinging..

Not really. It's more fwb with more attachments.

S

"

And even that is an understatement of what poly actually is, if I'm not mistaken.

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By *STWO65Couple
over a year ago

MIDLANDS


"Cheating. Swinging isn't this at all as its supposed to be done with knowledge and full consent. The two things are poles apart OP. "

We agree totally.

And may we please add something please.

These cheaters who label themselves as swingers on here.

They are not swingers, they are cheats.

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By *irkydirkyMan
over a year ago

Stevenage


"Definitely cheating as you have made a commitment to another person in whatever form and you have broken it.

Swinging has so many different levels and general public can be afraid of things they do not understand.

Also I am a poly and none of my friends understand my relationships let alone strangers.

Poly is basically swinging..

Not really. It's more fwb with more attachments.

S

"

And still basically the same thing..

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By *omesticated_VixenWoman
over a year ago

sw London

Cheating is far worse you are betraying the person you are supposed to love. Living with lies

Swinging is totally different on so many levels but it is with each other’s knowledge and a joint thing

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By *ensual 2Couple
over a year ago

Blackpool

Cheating is awful at every level....swinging is as we all know is honest fun for like minded people ....folk in the vanilla world can never understand this "life" ....but they are always curious to know what goes on lol....x

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By *ab_SparklesWoman
over a year ago

sparkle Surprised

Cheating

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think we can all agree that cheating is worse. Swinging is not bad at all because it is open and consensual.

However, society, in general, sees swinging as a sexual deviance. As such it is seen as socially worse because cheating is ”something that just happens”.

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By *mmmMaybeCouple
over a year ago

West Wales


"Definitely cheating as you have made a commitment to another person in whatever form and you have broken it.

Swinging has so many different levels and general public can be afraid of things they do not understand.

Also I am a poly and none of my friends understand my relationships let alone strangers.

Poly is basically swinging..

Not really. It's more fwb with more attachments.

S

And even that is an understatement of what poly actually is, if I'm not mistaken. "

Indeed, We are only just entering the world ourselves but wouldn't say we were poly, not even close, Just more there than here so to speak. Our new friend is though.

S

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There are a lot of opinions on cheating but how many are actually on here as a result of cheating? Now there is a contentious issue.

The some of the people vehemently opposed to smoking are ex smokers

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By *naquest321Man
over a year ago

Carlisle


"I think that society as a whole thinks that while cheating is bad, it's something that happens. Swinging is deviant and something only certain types of people do it - if you look at media depictions of the two, cheating is more often glamourised with hot people consuming an all burning lust but swinging is shady and done by pot bellied men with wrinkly wives."

Only have to look at the soaps, plenty of cheating going on there but not much swinging which goes to show it’s perceived as more acceptable to cheat.

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By *mmmMaybeCouple
over a year ago

West Wales

Cheating is more accepted in society imo. swinging has yet to throw off it's "keys in the pot" image just the same as naturism hasn't really got past "Carry On" snigger snigger status.

S

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

Which would you rather tell your children?

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By *STWO65Couple
over a year ago

MIDLANDS


"Which would you rather tell your children?"

Nothing to do with it.

Children shouldn't be told either.

But if so, which involves honesty, and which one doesn't??

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury


"Which would you rather tell your children?

Nothing to do with it.

Children shouldn't be told either.

But if so, which involves honesty, and which one doesn't??"

So a couple gets divorced because mummy's run off with the milkman, but you don't tell the children? Incredible.

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By *adame 2SwordsWoman
over a year ago

Victoria, London

this

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Cheating is more accepted in society imo. swinging has yet to throw off it's "keys in the pot" image just the same as naturism hasn't really got past "Carry On" snigger snigger status.

S"

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I think we can all agree that cheating is worse. Swinging is not bad at all because it is open and consensual.

However, society, in general, sees swinging as a sexual deviance. As such it is seen as socially worse because cheating is ”something that just happens”."

Swinging is premeditated. Cheating is always just an accident.

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By *ink Panther.Woman
over a year ago

Preston


"What do you think the General Public think is worse.... Swinging or cheating?

Both hit the headlines.

Are they perceived as equally bad?"

What about swingers that cheat?

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By *SAchickWoman
over a year ago

Hillside desolate


"What do you think the General Public think is worse.... Swinging or cheating?

Both hit the headlines.

Are they perceived as equally bad?

What about swingers that cheat?"

That's pitchfork and flaming torches territory

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By *ink Panther.Woman
over a year ago

Preston


"What do you think the General Public think is worse.... Swinging or cheating?

Both hit the headlines.

Are they perceived as equally bad?

What about swingers that cheat?

That's pitchfork and flaming torches territory"

Boooo I prefer a good flounce especially on a Saturday night

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"What do you think the General Public think is worse.... Swinging or cheating?

Both hit the headlines.

Are they perceived as equally bad?

What about swingers that cheat?

That's pitchfork and flaming torches territory

Boooo I prefer a good flounce especially on a Saturday night "

A flounce like Elton John?

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By *ink Panther.Woman
over a year ago

Preston


"What do you think the General Public think is worse.... Swinging or cheating?

Both hit the headlines.

Are they perceived as equally bad?

What about swingers that cheat?

That's pitchfork and flaming torches territory

Boooo I prefer a good flounce especially on a Saturday night

A flounce like Elton John?"

As in a clique of c****

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What do you think the General Public think is worse.... Swinging or cheating?

Both hit the headlines.

Are they perceived as equally bad?"
they are both part of life and we are the people

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think that a lot of people are cheating and using fab to do it "

This is all too true! I'm here as a single woman to explore things. I've lost count of the men I've been messaged by who confess they are either married or have a girlfriend that doesn't know they are in here cheating!

Swinging like bdsm is completely misunderstood by people who have zero idea of what either lifestyle entails. It is all about consent

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By *hampagne_Supernova_91Man
over a year ago

Manchester

Cheating is worse in my opinion, being in a commitment with someone you trust and finding out they have been betraying you is rough.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think what I meant (and slightly off topic) was that if everything was knowledge and fact then there would be little point in debate, questioning or conversation - we would all just know. Thought and creativity is often wasted by assumption and pre-judgement imho.....

Live and let live "

What nippy said....

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By *asy markMan
over a year ago

rawtenstall

It’s all good

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Cheating by far ,it has so mamy painful dimensions to it and the ripple effect is devastating

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Poly is basically swinging.. "

Got to face-palm again!

Polyamoury is NOT like swinging at all!

Polyamourous couples have romantic relationships with their primary partner and often have one or more other partners. They are in separate relationships and rarely if ever get involved sexually with each other. They will all know each other but lead separate relationships

Swinging is about sexual pleasure poly is romantic relationships

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By *imited 3EditionCouple
over a year ago

Live in Scotland Play in England


"I think that society as a whole thinks that while cheating is bad, it's something that happens. Swinging is deviant and something only certain types of people do it - if you look at media depictions of the two, cheating is more often glamourised with hot people consuming an all burning lust but swinging is shady and done by pot bellied men with wrinkly wives."

getting a few wrinkles me so will fit the stereotype

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By *o_eye_deerMan
over a year ago

The South Near That London


"I think we can all agree that cheating is worse. Swinging is not bad at all because it is open and consensual.

However, society, in general, sees swinging as a sexual deviance. As such it is seen as socially worse because cheating is ”something that just happens”.

Swinging is premeditated. Cheating is always just an accident. "

Ah, the old “honestly I tripped & landed cock first, and I am just so grateful, this woman I’ve never seen before, selflessly broke my fall with her mouth/pussy/arse”

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By *irkydirkyMan
over a year ago

Stevenage


"Definitely cheating as you have made a commitment to another person in whatever form and you have broken it.

Swinging has so many different levels and general public can be afraid of things they do not understand.

Also I am a poly and none of my friends understand my relationships let alone strangers.

Poly is basically swinging..

Not really. It's more fwb with more attachments.

S

And even that is an understatement of what poly actually is, if I'm not mistaken.

Indeed, We are only just entering the world ourselves but wouldn't say we were poly, not even close, Just more there than here so to speak. Our new friend is though.

S"

So you’re gone from sleeping with someone you’re attracted to, to sleeping with someone you’re attracted to..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Cheating for sure. Swinging is a mutual consent to have sex with other people without the betrayal.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Cheating

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