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If you went out for a meal with somebody for the first time and they said they were vegan ..........

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By *iddlesticks OP   Man
over a year ago

My nan’s spare room.

You don’t know they are vegan until it comes time to order.

Would you opt for a vegan option.

Personally I’m summasing that if they’ve joined me without mentioning it then they don’t mind what I have, but I feel I might feel inclined to go vegan for the date.

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By *usie pTV/TS
over a year ago

taunton

Hell no I would have my steak, rare lol.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

No. But I'd make a point of not discussing food so we don't inadvertently offend each other.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I pretty certain that a vegan would of mentioned it before your first meal. TBH I’m surprised they don’t mention it in their first email........

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman
over a year ago

On a mooch

No sorry, everyone’s personal choice

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Each to their own. If she didnt like me having the mixed grill i suppose there wouldnt be another date x

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By *den-Valley-coupleCouple
over a year ago

Cumbria


"You don’t know they are vegan until it comes time to order.

Would you opt for a vegan option.

Personally I’m summasing that if they’ve joined me without mentioning it then they don’t mind what I have, but I feel I might feel inclined to go vegan for the date. "

Think you have skip a couple of conversations..

To be fair most vegans would shove it down your throat before you got hi out

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No of course not. I’m not vegan.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No of course not. I’m not vegan. "

This

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By *uciyassMan
over a year ago

Leeds

Hell no. I’d get the biggest lump of meat on the menu and tell the cook to slap it with a match in both sides

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By *UGGYBEAR2015Man
over a year ago

BRIDPORT

Why would you want to do that? So if you’re eating with a vegetarian you have to go veggie or any other food preference of your dinning partner. You can have respect for someone else’s choices without having to adopt them.

Personally I wouldn’t want to continue with the meal if the other person expected me to automatically adopt their dietary choices, imagine the flip side of this, suggesting they join you as a carnivore, they would, quite rightly, be appalled.

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By *imes_berksMan
over a year ago

Bracknell

I would assume they wouldn't mind as I was wearing leather shoes, suede coat and had the new £5 and £10 notes

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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago

There and to the left a bit

I've been in this situation, kind of, where someone I met told me they were vegetarian before we met - I simply asked them if it would bother them if I ate meat, and think I would do the same if confronted with it whilst holding the menu.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I couldn't do vegan however I do try to be respectful to the person's wishes. My bf is a non red meat eater - I'm not allowed to call him a vege although I do it to wind him up. But I do try to be respectful of his food requirements when on a date. Ie I won't have a big lovely rare steak and would choose something like chicken or duck instead (my phone changed duck to dick initially... I always choose dick he has no problem with that )

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By *rAitchMan
over a year ago

Diagonally Parked in a Parallel Universe

I would order a vegan meal for myself, provided they ordered a nice juicy steak for themselves.

After all, why should I be expected to eat what they want, but them be offended if I expected them to eat what I want.

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By *iddlesticks OP   Man
over a year ago

My nan’s spare room.

It’s funny as I would think that I would give it a try, but I’m certainly comfortable around vegetarians and vegans with being an omnivore.

I certainly wouldn’t go for full on rare steak as much as I like it, for the sake of it.

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By *ed-monkeyCouple
over a year ago

Hailsham

If it had got to the meal stage, I'd respect their choice to eat vegan, but I'd expect them to respect the fact that I like to eat meat. I'd they can't have that respect, frankly, if probably walk away and eat alone.

In a similar vane, if we were having people round for dinner, and someone was vegetarian or vegan, I'd try to cater something for them.

However, if invited round for a meal at someone's who is veggie or vegan, would they provide a meat option? I very much doubt it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Veganism isn't something to bow down to. If the other person is vegan it's their choice. Like only eating chicken. To choose similar us making a rod for your own back. If you are a confident meat eater then stay with it.

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

No chance, I'd eat what I fancied eating, if they didn't like it they would be free to leave.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'd respect their choice but would also expect them to respect my choice to eat meat

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By *hrisAndKatieCouple
over a year ago

stevenage

Dated a Vegan who was also a Christian for a couple of months - always felt judged and guilty whenever I ate meat - but that could just be the person

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By *ed-monkeyCouple
over a year ago

Hailsham


"Dated a Vegan who was also a Christian for a couple of months - always felt judged and guilty whenever I ate meat - but that could just be the person "

They were a Christian for a couple of months? Or you dated them for a couple of months?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If they are vegan how would they take your meat and two veg?

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By *manaWoman
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"No of course not. I’m not vegan. "

This

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over a year ago

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By *hrisAndKatieCouple
over a year ago

stevenage


"Dated a Vegan who was also a Christian for a couple of months - always felt judged and guilty whenever I ate meat - but that could just be the person

They were a Christian for a couple of months? Or you dated them for a couple of months?"

Dated them for a couple of months- she was too religious for me - actually made me go to church and claimed to have seen jesus - so yeah maybe the vegan thing was the least odd thing about her in hindsight

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool

If you've got to the point of going out for a meal and they haven't mentioned it then I'd assume they have no issue with what you personally eat. I don't eat meat but 99%of the people I have dated have been meat eaters. The only time it ever bothered me was one who tried to pressure me to eat meat.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If they haven’t already said something then I’m sure they don’t mind.

We only see the preaching vegans on social media and think that they are all like that. More and more vegans are doing it for the supposed health benefits and could not give a shit what your eating haha

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By *ed-monkeyCouple
over a year ago

Hailsham


"Dated a Vegan who was also a Christian for a couple of months - always felt judged and guilty whenever I ate meat - but that could just be the person

They were a Christian for a couple of months? Or you dated them for a couple of months?

Dated them for a couple of months- she was too religious for me - actually made me go to church and claimed to have seen jesus - so yeah maybe the vegan thing was the least odd thing about her in hindsight "

Haha ... have to love that thing called hindsight

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By *ed-monkeyCouple
over a year ago

Hailsham


"If you've got to the point of going out for a meal and they haven't mentioned it then I'd assume they have no issue with what you personally eat. I don't eat meat but 99%of the people I have dated have been meat eaters. The only time it ever bothered me was one who tried to pressure me to eat meat."

Or one who still had a piece of bacon such in their teeth?

Mmm ... bacon

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By *hoenixAdAstraWoman
over a year ago

Hiding in the shadows

I had a social last year.

Great guy, the social was lovely, couple of hours sat in a sunny pub garden, talked about everything under the sun, including our jobs.

One of mine, I'm a chef, so food was mentioned.

We planned to meet again the following week, was taking me out for a meal

Then he tells me he's a vegan!

OK I have nothing against vegans, but being asked not to eat any animal products for 24hrs prior to us next meeting, as he'd be able to taste it on me

No, we never met again

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By *razytimesinloveCouple
over a year ago

SW Scotland

Taxi !

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

I would choose from the menu as normal. I regularly meet a vegan friend, we respect each others life style choices. I don't understand why anyone would eat vegan because they were with a vegan I wouldn't expect them to eat animal products just because I do.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’d order as normal why would you go vegan just to impress someone on a date , they’d either like you for who you are or not

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"I’d order as normal why would you go vegan just to impress someone on a date , they’d either like you for who you are or not "

I think a lot of people feel it would be offensive to the vegan to be with someone who wasn't while they were eating. Just like religious restrictions on food I'm happy to respect that as long as they respect that I don't have the same restrictions

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why do people speak about vegan like it’s a disease?!

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By *ed-monkeyCouple
over a year ago

Hailsham


"Why do people speak about vegan like it’s a disease?! "

Are they?

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"Why do people speak about vegan like it’s a disease?! "

it's become synonymous with extinction rebellion and militancy to an extent. I have to say that my friend has become a bit evangelical about it.

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By *ed-monkeyCouple
over a year ago

Hailsham


"Why do people speak about vegan like it’s a disease?!

it's become synonymous with extinction rebellion and militancy to an extent. I have to say that my friend has become a bit evangelical about it."

That's the only bit I hate about it

Hate it's a strong word actually, dislike, disapprove of

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Why do people speak about vegan like it’s a disease?! "

This!

I personally know plenty of vegans and vegetarians who just quietly go about their business. Anyone can eat what they want, more power to them.

I also know and have encountered lots of people who are obnoxious about the fact that they eat meat, and think it's funny to try to force a vegan or a Muslim to eat bacon. Pro tip: it's fucking not, and I eat bacon almost every day.

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By *eakcoupleCouple
over a year ago

peak district

Depends how much you wanted to fuck them!

Basically, we think 'live and let live' is a good way to live your life. The trouble with vegans is that they're often like fundamentalist preachers, determined to convert everyone. And most don't use deodorants.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"Why do people speak about vegan like it’s a disease?!

it's become synonymous with extinction rebellion and militancy to an extent. I have to say that my friend has become a bit evangelical about it.

That's the only bit I hate about it

Hate it's a strong word actually, dislike, disapprove of"

Yeah. I do think that these people are in the minority though, they just get all the press

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why do people speak about vegan like it’s a disease?!

it's become synonymous with extinction rebellion and militancy to an extent. I have to say that my friend has become a bit evangelical about it."

That made me chuckle

I went vegan for a month last summer as a bet(won €250 for my troubles!). I had the biggest steak at the end of that month. I still drool when I think about it!

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"Why do people speak about vegan like it’s a disease?!

This!

I personally know plenty of vegans and vegetarians who just quietly go about their business. Anyone can eat what they want, more power to them.

I also know and have encountered lots of people who are obnoxious about the fact that they eat meat, and think it's funny to try to force a vegan or a Muslim to eat bacon. Pro tip: it's fucking not, and I eat bacon almost every day. "

Yeah, this too. People are just arses really vegan or carnivore and everything in between

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

I know one obnoxious vegan.

She's a teenager. She's also obnoxious about how unfashionable my eyebrows are/ eyeliner is. She'll get over it.

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By *ez1987Man
over a year ago

Great Harwood, Blackburn

If I found out a date was a vegan I'd totally respect their choices but I'd be ordering my usual off the menu being either chicken or a burger.

Just because we has different views on food lifestyle shouldn't change the views of said meeting.

I have a few vegan and vegi friends and they don't judge me for eating/wearing animal pruducts.

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By *iddlesticks OP   Man
over a year ago

My nan’s spare room.


"I know one obnoxious vegan.

She's a teenager. She's also obnoxious about how unfashionable my eyebrows are/ eyeliner is. She'll get over it. "

Unfashionable eyebrows heinous crime

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I know lots of vegans, vegetarians and even more fad eaters and none of them ever go on about any of their personal choices ... the most likely to talk about it are fad eaters to be honest

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By *rjimMan
over a year ago

nr bristol

My doctor, 25 year old girl, told me that if I didnt stop drinking and eating so much meat..that it would knock 4 years off of my life.

I said those are the 4 years I don't want anyway.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If it were a date for a potential relationship I would not eat vegan food. That would be portraying me as something I am not and it would set the other person's expectations that I would be a vegan in future. True Veganism includes not wearing leather and other stuff

On a date always be yourself

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By *adame 2SwordsWoman
over a year ago

Victoria, London

I agree with suzi, I'm not changing my ways just to be liked

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't eat meat or dairy, I don't expect others to do the same as me. My partner eats meat and dairy and I cook them for him, we're all adults.

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By *gnitemybodyWoman
over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor

Would I buggery I'd order what the heck I wanted to.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This happened to me... when ordering my steak she went militant and said i couldnt have it. I left, would bever ever date one.

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By *hechapMan
over a year ago

Derry

Certantly not.

I would be eating what i want and she can eat or not eat what she wants.

Thats like saying if she is a compulsive eater will i make a pig of myself too.

I dont think this situation will ever happen unless she just decides as she sits down at the table that she is now vegan.

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity

Being a butcher, I highly doubt we would even get to the meal stage

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By *litterbabeWoman
over a year ago

hiding from cock pics.

I am vegitarian and I would not expect somebody to order vegetarian just because I am. I also cook meat but I don't eat it because I don't see it it is my choice what other people eat.

the only time meat has disturbed me is when I was with a fab friend who had cooked sperate dishes for both of us but was crunching chicken bones,

I did find that quite disturbing and did not feel like kissing him afterwards. In fact I decided not to see him again as everytime I Look to him all I could hear was the crunch.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It makes no matter to me but i'd be sure to order the mixed grill just to check out her reaction. If she doesn't bat an eyelid i'll know she's not militant and we can move on from there. Although i'd be inclined to comment on it. How can you not?

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By *rAngleseyMan
over a year ago

Anglesey

It`s a personal choice & I would ask them if they minded if I ordered meat.

Just don`t expect a snog afterwards when you have Half a steak in your teeth.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I know one obnoxious vegan.

She's a teenager. She's also obnoxious about how unfashionable my eyebrows are/ eyeliner is. She'll get over it. "

Is she related to you perchance?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would explain that my allergies prevent me from eating a lot of vegan meals or I’d join them and order what I wanted to eat. If it was important I join them in solidarity they should have said so earlier and we would have discussed it. If they didn’t need to tell me I would assume they accepted that food is a personal choice and I didn’t need conversion. - Mrs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why do people speak about vegan like it’s a disease?!

This!

I personally know plenty of vegans and vegetarians who just quietly go about their business. Anyone can eat what they want, more power to them.

I also know and have encountered lots of people who are obnoxious about the fact that they eat meat, and think it's funny to try to force a vegan or a Muslim to eat bacon. Pro tip: it's fucking not, and I eat bacon almost every day. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Being a butcher, I highly doubt we would even get to the meal stage "

Stranger things have happened!

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By *hechapMan
over a year ago

Derry

One time i got into financial difficulties and i decided to turn vegan.

I just couldnt make ends meat.

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By *octor DeleriumMan
over a year ago

Wellingborough


"You don’t know they are vegan until it comes time to order."

As we approached Dunedin's famous The Reef Steak and Seafood Restaurant it rapidly became clear that I would not, in fact, have to worry about the time of the last bus home.

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity


"Being a butcher, I highly doubt we would even get to the meal stage

Stranger things have happened!"
I highly doubt it

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By *atcherwankerMan
over a year ago

Birmingham

Weird how I don't think I've ever met an actual militant vegan that likes to tell people, but hooooo boy do meat eaters bang on about veganism like they're furiously offended to their very core by what someone else chooses to have for their dinner...

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By *atcherwankerMan
over a year ago

Birmingham

On a less snarky and passive aggressive note (more openly confrontational tbh) though, some of the reactions here are a little alarming. There's a lot of "I'D ORDER A BIG JUICY STEAK WITH LOTS OF BLOOD AND GUTS" type replies.

In the relatively innocuous situation the OP has laid out, when you're on a date, you're having dinner with somebody you are keen on and are hoping to have sex with... In this situation you'd go out of your way, you'd make a point, of ordering what you perceive to be the most offensive thing you can find. You'd intentionally strive to upset this person.... just because of what they like to eat? Seriously, people?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Weird how I don't think I've ever met an actual militant vegan that likes to tell people, but hooooo boy do meat eaters bang on about veganism like they're furiously offended to their very core by what someone else chooses to have for their dinner..."

If you've found that to be true i think you'll find it's a case of reaction not action. In my experience that's been entirely the other way around.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"On a less snarky and passive aggressive note (more openly confrontational tbh) though, some of the reactions here are a little alarming. There's a lot of "I'D ORDER A BIG JUICY STEAK WITH LOTS OF BLOOD AND GUTS" type replies.

In the relatively innocuous situation the OP has laid out, when you're on a date, you're having dinner with somebody you are keen on and are hoping to have sex with... In this situation you'd go out of your way, you'd make a point, of ordering what you perceive to be the most offensive thing you can find. You'd intentionally strive to upset this person.... just because of what they like to eat? Seriously, people?"

If ordering a big juicy steak is likely to upset your date then it's clear she's not the one for you. It's a good filter.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Really funny watching this thread, hubby is vegan because it’s the easiest way to diet and the amount of rude comments he gets from people is pathetic, of course he hasn’t rammed it down other people throats that he is Vegan, of course he doesn’t care what others eat. From his experience most meat eaters are just rude, ignorant and plain nasty about it, the amount of egocentric comments on here just shows how intolerant, rude and uneducated people are in general x

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By *ed-monkeyCouple
over a year ago

Hailsham


"Really funny watching this thread, hubby is vegan because it’s the easiest way to diet and the amount of rude comments he gets from people is pathetic, of course he hasn’t rammed it down other people throats that he is Vegan, of course he doesn’t care what others eat. From his experience most meat eaters are just rude, ignorant and plain nasty about it, the amount of egocentric comments on here just shows how intolerant, rude and uneducated people are in general x"

Unfortunately, as with any group, it's the outspoken negatives ones that give the rest a bad name ... people have a tendency to remember the negatives more and then the tar flies

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool


"Why do people speak about vegan like it’s a disease?!

This!

I personally know plenty of vegans and vegetarians who just quietly go about their business. Anyone can eat what they want, more power to them.

I also know and have encountered lots of people who are obnoxious about the fact that they eat meat, and think it's funny to try to force a vegan or a Muslim to eat bacon. Pro tip: it's fucking not, and I eat bacon almost every day. "

This! I've had people try to trick me before. Not cool.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No of course not. I’m not vegan. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In my town they like to host seminars on why it's wrong to eat meat. I actually went to one once just to see what it was all about. Having worked in both the primary and secondary industries i can uneqivocally say it was entirely based on misinformation and fantasy.

If meat eaters are rude and obnoxious towards vegans i see it only as a backlash. Personally i have never been so because i don't care what the choose to eat, i just think they're misguided.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I met a vegan from here, didn’t even think about it....sat opposite her an filled my face with a giant beef burger.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No I'd order the meatiest meat they had with gravy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No. I’d eat what I want, equally as they’re entitled to.

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

Yeah cos I’m veggie so half way there already

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wouldn't be a problem and I would be flexible on the date. If that meant having a vegan dish I would. Future dates and getting into a relationship would need thought as depends on how relaxed both people are in respecting each other's choices.

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By *ylvie 888Woman
over a year ago

Cleethorpes

I would let them choose what they wish and respect their choices. And if they were offended by my potential meaty choice... then that's down to them... but I guess when discussing going out for a meal... preferences would be mentioned.

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By *hipley CplCouple
over a year ago

shipley

Didn’t no Phil was vegan until we had our first meal out! I sill had a carvery and he had some bean thing. I do tend to go more vegetarian though now, however if I want steak I’ll have it! He’s never tried to convert me and has never criticised what I’ve eaten!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

VEGAN!!!!......And at that precise moment he put the knife and fork down and walked out......

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By *atcherwankerMan
over a year ago

Birmingham


"On a less snarky and passive aggressive note (more openly confrontational tbh) though, some of the reactions here are a little alarming. There's a lot of "I'D ORDER A BIG JUICY STEAK WITH LOTS OF BLOOD AND GUTS" type replies.

In the relatively innocuous situation the OP has laid out, when you're on a date, you're having dinner with somebody you are keen on and are hoping to have sex with... In this situation you'd go out of your way, you'd make a point, of ordering what you perceive to be the most offensive thing you can find. You'd intentionally strive to upset this person.... just because of what they like to eat? Seriously, people?

If ordering a big juicy steak is likely to upset your date then it's clear she's not the one for you. It's a good filter. "

No, that's exactly the point I'm making. He/she probably couldn't give two hoots what you order, but if you're ordering that SPECIFICALLY to try and cause offence, if your goal in ordering something along those lines is to cause outrage and upset rather than just because you fancy a steak (and there are a lot of replies here stating they'd do just that) then you really need to give your head a wobble. That is utterly demented behaviour.

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over a year ago


"On a less snarky and passive aggressive note (more openly confrontational tbh) though, some of the reactions here are a little alarming. There's a lot of "I'D ORDER A BIG JUICY STEAK WITH LOTS OF BLOOD AND GUTS" type replies.

In the relatively innocuous situation the OP has laid out, when you're on a date, you're having dinner with somebody you are keen on and are hoping to have sex with... In this situation you'd go out of your way, you'd make a point, of ordering what you perceive to be the most offensive thing you can find. You'd intentionally strive to upset this person.... just because of what they like to eat? Seriously, people?

If ordering a big juicy steak is likely to upset your date then it's clear she's not the one for you. It's a good filter.

No, that's exactly the point I'm making. He/she probably couldn't give two hoots what you order, but if you're ordering that SPECIFICALLY to try and cause offence, if your goal in ordering something along those lines is to cause outrage and upset rather than just because you fancy a steak (and there are a lot of replies here stating they'd do just that) then you really need to give your head a wobble. That is utterly demented behaviour."

I can’t see a decent person ordering something to cause offence to someone they’ve gone out their way to meet.

Still, a meat eater should be able to eat what they like equally as a vegan should.

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over a year ago


"You don’t know they are vegan until it comes time to order.

Would you opt for a vegan option.

Personally I’m summasing that if they’ve joined me without mentioning it then they don’t mind what I have, but I feel I might feel inclined to go vegan for the date. "

To be blunt we very rarely go out on the first meet for a meal because you may be stuck with trying to make polite conversation when you just want to leave, that goes for both parties.

We would go for a social drink first. If we go for a meal on the next meet then will have been discussed up front so every one knows the score

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By *ylvie 888Woman
over a year ago

Cleethorpes


"I would assume they wouldn't mind as I was wearing leather shoes, suede coat and had the new £5 and £10 notes "

What do you mean new £5 and £10 notes?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’d eat whatever I want , including them

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By *ackenzie-LeighWoman
over a year ago

Shropshire

Wow! Why would anyone do anything like "order a big bloody steak" for the sole purpose of antagonising? What's wrong with just respecting someone's lifestyle?

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By *ed-monkeyCouple
over a year ago

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"I would assume they wouldn't mind as I was wearing leather shoes, suede coat and had the new £5 and £10 notes

What do you mean new £5 and £10 notes? "

They're made using tallow

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would respect their decision to eat vegan but would expect them to do the same when I order meat from the menu.

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By *uliette500Woman
over a year ago

Hull

I would order something I liked. If they had a problem with that it is their issue not mine.

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By *he Queen of TartsWoman
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over a year ago

My Own Little World

No.

It is their choice what they eat, just as it is mine if I choose to eat an animal.

I also wouldn't ask why then don't eat meat, in my experience half the time it leads to a 'meat is murder' discussion and awkwardness.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Would said person eat meat out of courtesy on the date!?

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By *ungscotsman26Man
over a year ago

Glasgow

Nope I'd order what I wanted. Would be very surprised if it never came up in an early convo though normally these choices get mentioned pretty quickly

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By *andKBCouple
over a year ago

Plymouth

Vegan here (K) order what you want it won't bother me. My choice to be vegan not yours. C isn't vegan and we eat in non vegan places. Nor are any of my family vegan. My mum ordered a vegan option once purely so we could share pizza as it was cheaper to share and she didn't mind. But usually when I go out I don't expect people to eat vegan!!

I'd probably have mentioned it beforehand for booking purposes.

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool


"Nope I'd order what I wanted. Would be very surprised if it never came up in an early convo though normally these choices get mentioned pretty quickly "

I tend to only mention it if it comes up like they're going to be cooking for me or they suggest going to a steak house . If we were going out for dinner and agreed somewhere I knew I'd have options it's they might only discover I don't eat meat when we order.

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By *pider-WomanWoman
over a year ago

Exeter, Bristol, Plymouth, Truro

Nope I wouldn't. I love meat far to much

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You don’t know they are vegan until it comes time to order.

Would you opt for a vegan option?"

About as much as they would order the fillet steak knowing I'm not vegan.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I did the whole vegan thing for a year with a year out of respect for a ex, I have never been so hungry in my life... First thing I did when we ended was eat a nice big steak.

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool


"I did the whole vegan thing for a year with a year out of respect for a ex, I have never been so hungry in my life... First thing I did when we ended was eat a nice big steak."

Its funny you say that. I haven't eaten meat properly since I was 11. The few times I've tried it again it felt so heavy on my stomach I felt nauseous after eating very little. So I can see why someone used to eating it may feel hungry at first.

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By *ennilee888TV/TS
over a year ago

bournemouth/London


"Hell no I would have my steak, rare lol."

Love a rare steak, the redness of the meat and the blood juices just oozing out as you cut into it, delicious.

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By *atcherwankerMan
over a year ago

Birmingham


"On a less snarky and passive aggressive note (more openly confrontational tbh) though, some of the reactions here are a little alarming. There's a lot of "I'D ORDER A BIG JUICY STEAK WITH LOTS OF BLOOD AND GUTS" type replies.

In the relatively innocuous situation the OP has laid out, when you're on a date, you're having dinner with somebody you are keen on and are hoping to have sex with... In this situation you'd go out of your way, you'd make a point, of ordering what you perceive to be the most offensive thing you can find. You'd intentionally strive to upset this person.... just because of what they like to eat? Seriously, people?

If ordering a big juicy steak is likely to upset your date then it's clear she's not the one for you. It's a good filter.

No, that's exactly the point I'm making. He/she probably couldn't give two hoots what you order, but if you're ordering that SPECIFICALLY to try and cause offence, if your goal in ordering something along those lines is to cause outrage and upset rather than just because you fancy a steak (and there are a lot of replies here stating they'd do just that) then you really need to give your head a wobble. That is utterly demented behaviour.

I can’t see a decent person ordering something to cause offence to someone they’ve gone out their way to meet.

Still, a meat eater should be able to eat what they like equally as a vegan should. "

Well no, I agree on both counts, but there's an alarming number of replies on here stating they'd do exactly that. I just don't understand why on earth anyone would be so angry about what somebody else chooses to eat that they'd react so aggressively.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I doubt they'd be fussed about what I ordered.

Just like I'm not fussed what they ordered.....

However...

If they try to take food off my plate......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"On a less snarky and passive aggressive note (more openly confrontational tbh) though, some of the reactions here are a little alarming. There's a lot of "I'D ORDER A BIG JUICY STEAK WITH LOTS OF BLOOD AND GUTS" type replies.

In the relatively innocuous situation the OP has laid out, when you're on a date, you're having dinner with somebody you are keen on and are hoping to have sex with... In this situation you'd go out of your way, you'd make a point, of ordering what you perceive to be the most offensive thing you can find. You'd intentionally strive to upset this person.... just because of what they like to eat? Seriously, people?

If ordering a big juicy steak is likely to upset your date then it's clear she's not the one for you. It's a good filter.

No, that's exactly the point I'm making. He/she probably couldn't give two hoots what you order, but if you're ordering that SPECIFICALLY to try and cause offence, if your goal in ordering something along those lines is to cause outrage and upset rather than just because you fancy a steak (and there are a lot of replies here stating they'd do just that) then you really need to give your head a wobble. That is utterly demented behaviour.

I can’t see a decent person ordering something to cause offence to someone they’ve gone out their way to meet.

Still, a meat eater should be able to eat what they like equally as a vegan should.

Well no, I agree on both counts, but there's an alarming number of replies on here stating they'd do exactly that. I just don't understand why on earth anyone would be so angry about what somebody else chooses to eat that they'd react so aggressively."

I agree.

Far too many times I’ve had vegan mutual friends try to force their views on others when we are out for dinner.

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

Whilst I am an unapologetic carnivore who won’t give up meat. I might be tempted to have a bash at something they recommend if it sounds nice.

Recently because of the cholesterol been trying out healthier options anyway.

I certainly wouldn’t start chomping on bloody flesh with relish in front of someone I was trying to date.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No eat what you like unless you are sharing food then you kind of have too

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You don’t know they are vegan until it comes time to order.

Would you opt for a vegan option.

Personally I’m summasing that if they’ve joined me without mentioning it then they don’t mind what I have, but I feel I might feel inclined to go vegan for the date. "

Yes I would unless I didn't want anything to come of it. If vegetarian then it would be different, but I know a lot of vegans and they mostly can be touchy about it.

Think about it, it's something which puts many of them off, so if you were to eat flesh in front of them is a bit like doing the Hakka to the opponents.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'd inform them I wasn't and would they mind if I ate what I wanted. If there were any stipulations I'd probably end the dinner there and then if it were the social/date kind of situation. Any other situation and I'd not bother asking in first place.

If they said, go ahead, eat what you want, I'd consider ordering something without meat in it, but it'd depend entirely on what I was hungry for at the end of the day.

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By *isa003Woman
over a year ago

Mayo Galway Leitrim

I'd order as normal, if they have a problem its theirs not mine. I'll order my chicken wings and steak and eat it without feeling guilty. My body my choice. Your free to leave I was paying my own bill anyway.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some tosh on here there really is. If it was a fit woman all the blokes would choose a meatless option if they thought they had the chance to dip their wick. Hilarious reading though.

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By *zQTWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere

A few years back I went on a date with a vegetarian and I felt that I needed to be mindful and order something with no meat in it. I regretted it and didn’t eat my food and he ended up eating it for me.

After the whole ordeal, I decided never again would I do that and I would eat what I want to eat. If it was an issue for the other person, then they wouldn’t date me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I can't, unless they make vegan food taste and be as nutritious as meat, I'm staying a meat eater.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nope. Vegans only do it for attention, they think it makes them interesting.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Nope. Vegans only do it for attention, they think it makes them interesting. "

No difference to most of the replies on here to...

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By *rontier PsychiatristMan
over a year ago

Coventry

No, surely one of the most important parts of finding some is they accept you for you as you do them. So likewise their dietary choice would be fine with me but I'll eat what I enjoy too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Some tosh on here there really is. If it was a fit woman all the blokes would choose a meatless option if they thought they had the chance to dip their wick. Hilarious reading though. "

I really wouldn't. I hate veggies.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm amazed at how high up the list people put their interests over say friendship. It's only a meal and really a first world issue as it's not your only one, but then that how society has shifted.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Weird how I don't think I've ever met an actual militant vegan that likes to tell people, but hooooo boy do meat eaters bang on about veganism like they're furiously offended to their very core by what someone else chooses to have for their dinner..."

I’ve met a couple but the vast majority are just making their own choices. What people eat is a personal decision. Their beliefs are theirs and no less valid than mine. The hate over what others eat is a bit aggressive sometimes from both sides.

It wouldn’t be hard to just have a chat but still do your own thing, what they’re eating shouldn’t be this offensive to people. Fairly sure trying to enrage them wouldn’t get people laid lol - Mrs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Some tosh on here there really is. If it was a fit woman all the blokes would choose a meatless option if they thought they had the chance to dip their wick. Hilarious reading though.

I really wouldn't. I hate veggies."

Veggie-tables.. not veggie-tarians.. I dont mind them so long as they're not preachy about it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Some tosh on here there really is. If it was a fit woman all the blokes would choose a meatless option if they thought they had the chance to dip their wick. Hilarious reading though.

I really wouldn't. I hate veggies.

Veggie-tables.. not veggie-tarians.. I dont mind them so long as they're not preachy about it. "

You don't like fries? Or crisps?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why do people speak about vegan like it’s a disease?!

This!

I personally know plenty of vegans and vegetarians who just quietly go about their business. Anyone can eat what they want, more power to them.

I also know and have encountered lots of people who are obnoxious about the fact that they eat meat, and think it's funny to try to force a vegan or a Muslim to eat bacon. Pro tip: it's fucking not, and I eat bacon almost every day.

This! I've had people try to trick me before. Not cool."
that is so utterly fucked up. When you’re not used to eating something it makes you quite ill not to mention the utter lack of respect it shows for your choices.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'd inform them I wasn't and would they mind if I ate what I wanted. If there were any stipulations I'd probably end the dinner there and then if it were the social/date kind of situation. Any other situation and I'd not bother asking in first place.

If they said, go ahead, eat what you want, I'd consider ordering something without meat in it, but it'd depend entirely on what I was hungry for at the end of the day.

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Why would you ask if they mind?

Would you expect them to ask you if you mind what they ordered?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Go veggie for the meal, get a kebab on the way home.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Some tosh on here there really is. If it was a fit woman all the blokes would choose a meatless option if they thought they had the chance to dip their wick. Hilarious reading though.

I really wouldn't. I hate veggies.

Veggie-tables.. not veggie-tarians.. I dont mind them so long as they're not preachy about it.

You don't like fries? Or crisps? "

ok.. you got me.. po-tay-toes I'll eat.. along with green beans, asparagus, baked beans? Tomatoes (fruit?), and a few other scraps of greenery.. but if I can avoid it, I will

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It all depends. I am a carnivore but have also been to some nice vegetarian restaurants through my own curiosity and choice.

I wouldn't want to be made to feel I had to order veggie/vegan though so it would all depend on how forthright they were about their diet as to whether I would bother at all.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Them being vegan wouldn't make me choose vegan option. If they are vegan I'm not offend then they shouldn't be because I'm not! I'm flexitarian and just choose what I fancy at the time.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No. They're the vegan, not me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Most likely make me want to order a rare steak

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Really funny watching this thread, hubby is vegan because it’s the easiest way to diet and the amount of rude comments he gets from people is pathetic, of course he hasn’t rammed it down other people throats that he is Vegan, of course he doesn’t care what others eat. From his experience most meat eaters are just rude, ignorant and plain nasty about it, the amount of egocentric comments on here just shows how intolerant, rude and uneducated people are in general x"

I was just thinking this. I know a few vegans. Some never mention it- everyone else does. They can't have a meal in peace without people harping on about how it's wrong to be vegan.

Although some other friends, their every other sentence is about how vegan they are.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Them being vegan wouldn't affect my meal choice. If they aren't bothered enough to mention it before the date then I assume they're ok with that.

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool


"Some tosh on here there really is. If it was a fit woman all the blokes would choose a meatless option if they thought they had the chance to dip their wick. Hilarious reading though.

I really wouldn't. I hate veggies."

Hate you too

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool


"Some tosh on here there really is. If it was a fit woman all the blokes would choose a meatless option if they thought they had the chance to dip their wick. Hilarious reading though.

I really wouldn't. I hate veggies.

Veggie-tables.. not veggie-tarians.. I dont mind them so long as they're not preachy about it.

You don't like fries? Or crisps? "

Potatoes are carbs not vegetables

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

It depends on if i wanted to fuck them or not.

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool


"It depends on if i wanted to fuck them or not. "

Admittance to my vagina does not have dietary conditions

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Some tosh on here there really is. If it was a fit woman all the blokes would choose a meatless option if they thought they had the chance to dip their wick. Hilarious reading though.

I really wouldn't. I hate veggies.

Hate you too "

lol.. it grows in the ground.. it's not sweet, it's not meaty, ergo tis a veggie.. but one I love to eat.. like you Oh god that's terrible! Kill me now, insane single men are rubbing off on me.. oh no.. that's not what I want either... arrrrgghh

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sorry but this post fails! There is NO WAY you would have been able to arrange anything with a vegan, without them telling you they are. And delivering the standard lecture. I wouldn't meet a vegan. Too judgemental and ill informed for me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sorry but this post fails! There is NO WAY you would have been able to arrange anything with a vegan, without them telling you they are. And delivering the standard lecture. I wouldn't meet a vegan. Too judgemental and ill informed for me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The selfish "f*ck you" attitude from some posters is eye opening

If somebody asked me if was OK if I didn't have a meat dish during the date because they are a vegan then I would be fine with that. Doesn't stop me eating meat at other times. Shows some respect for the person you are sharing a date with.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Some tosh on here there really is. If it was a fit woman all the blokes would choose a meatless option if they thought they had the chance to dip their wick. Hilarious reading though. "

What a terrible opinion of all blokes you have... you must of met some real keepers

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The selfish "f*ck you" attitude from some posters is eye opening

If somebody asked me if was OK if I didn't have a meat dish during the date because they are a vegan then I would be fine with that. Doesn't stop me eating meat at other times. Shows some respect for the person you are sharing a date with. "

They’re not respecting your decision to eat what you want, yet you’re respecting theirs.

It’s a double standard.

You wouldn’t expect a vegan to eat meat just because you do, so a vegan shouldn’t expect a meat eater to do so for them.

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By *Man1263Man
over a year ago

Stockport


"The selfish "f*ck you" attitude from some posters is eye opening

If somebody asked me if was OK if I didn't have a meat dish during the date because they are a vegan then I would be fine with that. Doesn't stop me eating meat at other times. Shows some respect for the person you are sharing a date with.

They’re not respecting your decision to eat what you want, yet you’re respecting theirs.

It’s a double standard.

You wouldn’t expect a vegan to eat meat just because you do, so a vegan shouldn’t expect a meat eater to do so for them. "

This

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would order meat and see if they were open to trying some.

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up


"Weird how I don't think I've ever met an actual militant vegan that likes to tell people, but hooooo boy do meat eaters bang on about veganism like they're furiously offended to their very core by what someone else chooses to have for their dinner..."
your lucky then. Ive met a few... i however don't mind what anyone else does.. be it eating.. relgion..sexual preferences. As long as i respect their views and they in turn respect mine.

In answer to the op... I'd order what i fancied and as i find gamon or steak with jacket and salad to be my go to meal.. that's what it would be

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Some tosh on here there really is. If it was a fit woman all the blokes would choose a meatless option if they thought they had the chance to dip their wick. Hilarious reading though. "

i wouldnt

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

If a vegitarian can eat their lettuce and vegetables uncooked then why can't a meat eater have their steak rare ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The selfish "f*ck you" attitude from some posters is eye opening

If somebody asked me if was OK if I didn't have a meat dish during the date because they are a vegan then I would be fine with that. Doesn't stop me eating meat at other times. Shows some respect for the person you are sharing a date with. "

My issue wouldn't be because they are vegan it's that they didn't tell you until you're ordering as per the OP. I wouldn't change my order to suit them if they didn't feel it necessary to tell me before the date. Respect works both ways.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The selfish "f*ck you" attitude from some posters is eye opening

If somebody asked me if was OK if I didn't have a meat dish during the date because they are a vegan then I would be fine with that. Doesn't stop me eating meat at other times. Shows some respect for the person you are sharing a date with.

My issue wouldn't be because they are vegan it's that they didn't tell you until you're ordering as per the OP. I wouldn't change my order to suit them if they didn't feel it necessary to tell me before the date. Respect works both ways. "

[You don’t know they hate the smell of cauliflower cheese until it comes time to order (as you go to order cauliflower cheese).

Would you opt for a non cauliflower cheese option?]

I have rephrased the OP's question. Does it make a difference to your answer?

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"The selfish "f*ck you" attitude from some posters is eye opening

If somebody asked me if was OK if I didn't have a meat dish during the date because they are a vegan then I would be fine with that. Doesn't stop me eating meat at other times. Shows some respect for the person you are sharing a date with.

My issue wouldn't be because they are vegan it's that they didn't tell you until you're ordering as per the OP. I wouldn't change my order to suit them if they didn't feel it necessary to tell me before the date. Respect works both ways.

[You don’t know they hate the smell of cauliflower cheese until it comes time to order (as you go to order cauliflower cheese).

Would you opt for a non cauliflower cheese option?]

I have rephrased the OP's question. Does it make a difference to your answer?"

No. If someone has severe issues over anything then why wouldn't they say upfront? If I had a proper dislike of something and it could enter into a date and upset me, I'd say.

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By *iamondCougarWoman
over a year ago

Norfuck! / Lincolnshire

Funny how many vegans drink wine and don’t realise it probably isn’t vegan until you point it out!

I’d perhaps go with a veggie option but vegan just isn’t for me at all

( please do not amend my post for your own amusement - thank you!)

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"The selfish "f*ck you" attitude from some posters is eye opening

If somebody asked me if was OK if I didn't have a meat dish during the date because they are a vegan then I would be fine with that. Doesn't stop me eating meat at other times. Shows some respect for the person you are sharing a date with.

My issue wouldn't be because they are vegan it's that they didn't tell you until you're ordering as per the OP. I wouldn't change my order to suit them if they didn't feel it necessary to tell me before the date. Respect works both ways.

[You don’t know they hate the smell of cauliflower cheese until it comes time to order (as you go to order cauliflower cheese).

Would you opt for a non cauliflower cheese option?]

I have rephrased the OP's question. Does it make a difference to your answer?

No. If someone has severe issues over anything then why wouldn't they say upfront? If I had a proper dislike of something and it could enter into a date and upset me, I'd say."

I agree much better if discussed up front but if it hadn't been would you not take their viewpoint into account when at the table?

What if it was a nut allergy ... would you still order a dish with nuts?

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By *aughtydrawerCouple
over a year ago

Leeds

I've got a lot of respect for vegans and vegetarians. I'm not one, but I rarely eat meat and I've cut down a lot on dairy.

I think it's slightly misunderstood by some people - it's an ethical choice, not just a dietary choice. Factory farming is horrible. Animals are often kept in poor conditions. The dairy industry is really traumatic. Theres also a huge ecological argument to cut down on meat.

We'd give people the freedom to support their ethical choices in others areas of life and I've never understood the issue some people have with vegans.

I know its slightly hypocritical of me to still eat meat/dairy but it's a good cause and I'm glad it's growing in popularity

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"The selfish "f*ck you" attitude from some posters is eye opening

If somebody asked me if was OK if I didn't have a meat dish during the date because they are a vegan then I would be fine with that. Doesn't stop me eating meat at other times. Shows some respect for the person you are sharing a date with.

My issue wouldn't be because they are vegan it's that they didn't tell you until you're ordering as per the OP. I wouldn't change my order to suit them if they didn't feel it necessary to tell me before the date. Respect works both ways.

[You don’t know they hate the smell of cauliflower cheese until it comes time to order (as you go to order cauliflower cheese).

Would you opt for a non cauliflower cheese option?]

I have rephrased the OP's question. Does it make a difference to your answer?

No. If someone has severe issues over anything then why wouldn't they say upfront? If I had a proper dislike of something and it could enter into a date and upset me, I'd say.

I agree much better if discussed up front but if it hadn't been would you not take their viewpoint into account when at the table?

What if it was a nut allergy ... would you still order a dish with nuts? "

Comparing a serious allergy to a dietary/ethical choice is ridiculous.

People don’t choose to have nut allergies. People choose to be vegan. People choose to eat meat.

A vegan should respect another person dietary choice, just as that person should respect a vegans choice.

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over a year ago


"You don’t know they are vegan until it comes time to order.

Would you opt for a vegan option.

Personally I’m summasing that if they’ve joined me without mentioning it then they don’t mind what I have, but I feel I might feel inclined to go vegan for the date. "

I wouldn't even entertain the notion of going vegan.If others want to,that's their choice and I respect that,but my choice is to eat animals because they taste lovely when they're cooked right and a vegan should respect that choice

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By *nabelle21Woman
over a year ago

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If you went out for a meal with somebody for the first time and they said they were vegan ........I'd say no worries I don't expect you to eat meat out of courtesy

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By *illyjohnyCouple
over a year ago

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I john wouldn't eat cock So why would I expect Jill to eat pussy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If they don’t preach to me I won’t preach to them. Technically the steak I’m eating is from a cow that was taking food out of their mouths so they should thank me.

I’m not confrontational, it’s a personal choice. Like religion. You have your beliefs and I have mine.

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"You don’t know they are vegan until it comes time to order.

Would you opt for a vegan option.

Personally I’m summasing that if they’ve joined me without mentioning it then they don’t mind what I have, but I feel I might feel inclined to go vegan for the date. "

I would possibly regret wearing my leather trousers, suede jacket, and setting the date in a steak house, but they probably should have mentioned it earlier

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"The selfish "f*ck you" attitude from some posters is eye opening

If somebody asked me if was OK if I didn't have a meat dish during the date because they are a vegan then I would be fine with that. Doesn't stop me eating meat at other times. Shows some respect for the person you are sharing a date with.

My issue wouldn't be because they are vegan it's that they didn't tell you until you're ordering as per the OP. I wouldn't change my order to suit them if they didn't feel it necessary to tell me before the date. Respect works both ways.

[You don’t know they hate the smell of cauliflower cheese until it comes time to order (as you go to order cauliflower cheese).

Would you opt for a non cauliflower cheese option?]

I have rephrased the OP's question. Does it make a difference to your answer?

No. If someone has severe issues over anything then why wouldn't they say upfront? If I had a proper dislike of something and it could enter into a date and upset me, I'd say.

I agree much better if discussed up front but if it hadn't been would you not take their viewpoint into account when at the table?

What if it was a nut allergy ... would you still order a dish with nuts?

Comparing a serious allergy to a dietary/ethical choice is ridiculous.

People don’t choose to have nut allergies. People choose to be vegan. People choose to eat meat.

A vegan should respect another person dietary choice, just as that person should respect a vegans choice. "

It is not ridiculous. You respect the nut allergy person being uncomfortable (even though it is you having the dish not them) but you don't respect the vegan feeling uncomfortable watching you eat a meat dish. Your attitude is "I can do what I want" instead of having the sensitivity to realise your choice is making another person uncomfortable. Being sensitive to another person's feelings is important in my opinion but rather lacking in some people it seems.

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over a year ago

I wouldn't date a vegan.

I enjoy eating meat and I don't want to be made to feel guilty about it.

All of the vegans I know fungus it impossible not to bang on about it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Find it * not fungus

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By *ulfilthmentMan
over a year ago

Just around the corner

I like to think they’d have told me BEFORE we went on a date so that I wouldn’t insult them by taking them somewhere meaty.

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over a year ago


"Find it * not fungus "

Quite appropriate

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"The selfish "f*ck you" attitude from some posters is eye opening

If somebody asked me if was OK if I didn't have a meat dish during the date because they are a vegan then I would be fine with that. Doesn't stop me eating meat at other times. Shows some respect for the person you are sharing a date with.

My issue wouldn't be because they are vegan it's that they didn't tell you until you're ordering as per the OP. I wouldn't change my order to suit them if they didn't feel it necessary to tell me before the date. Respect works both ways.

[You don’t know they hate the smell of cauliflower cheese until it comes time to order (as you go to order cauliflower cheese).

Would you opt for a non cauliflower cheese option?]

I have rephrased the OP's question. Does it make a difference to your answer?

No. If someone has severe issues over anything then why wouldn't they say upfront? If I had a proper dislike of something and it could enter into a date and upset me, I'd say.

I agree much better if discussed up front but if it hadn't been would you not take their viewpoint into account when at the table?

What if it was a nut allergy ... would you still order a dish with nuts?

Comparing a serious allergy to a dietary/ethical choice is ridiculous.

People don’t choose to have nut allergies. People choose to be vegan. People choose to eat meat.

A vegan should respect another person dietary choice, just as that person should respect a vegans choice.

It is not ridiculous. You respect the nut allergy person being uncomfortable (even though it is you having the dish not them) but you don't respect the vegan feeling uncomfortable watching you eat a meat dish. Your attitude is "I can do what I want" instead of having the sensitivity to realise your choice is making another person uncomfortable. Being sensitive to another person's feelings is important in my opinion but rather lacking in some people it seems."

Yes it is ridiculous.

An allergy is a medical condition, eating nuts could potentially kill someone allergic to them.

You can’t compare that to veganism, at all. On a plane, if someone has a nut allergy especially airborne they have to inform the airline so there are no nuts because of how serious that allergy can be, you would not see them doing that for someone’s ethical choice on being vegan. So not comparable.

The irony in you saying people should be “sensitive” to others feelings yet in this situation the “vegan” isn’t respecting a meat eaters choice to eat meat.

As I said before, that’s a double standard and you seem to not see that.

Any vegan who had that much of a problem with a meat eater eating meat in-front of them would meet a fellow vegan.

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over a year ago


"You don’t know they are vegan until it comes time to order.

Would you opt for a vegan option.

Personally I’m summasing that if they’ve joined me without mentioning it then they don’t mind what I have, but I feel I might feel inclined to go vegan for the date. "

No, it’s their choice. Would they feel obliged to eat meat because you’re not a vegan?

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By *ulfilthmentMan
over a year ago

Just around the corner


"No, it’s their choice. Would they feel obliged to eat meat because you’re not a vegan? "

I’m an omnivore so it wouldn’t offend me in any way.

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over a year ago


"The selfish "f*ck you" attitude from some posters is eye opening

If somebody asked me if was OK if I didn't have a meat dish during the date because they are a vegan then I would be fine with that. Doesn't stop me eating meat at other times. Shows some respect for the person you are sharing a date with.

My issue wouldn't be because they are vegan it's that they didn't tell you until you're ordering as per the OP. I wouldn't change my order to suit them if they didn't feel it necessary to tell me before the date. Respect works both ways.

[You don’t know they hate the smell of cauliflower cheese until it comes time to order (as you go to order cauliflower cheese).

Would you opt for a non cauliflower cheese option?]

I have rephrased the OP's question. Does it make a difference to your answer?

No. If someone has severe issues over anything then why wouldn't they say upfront? If I had a proper dislike of something and it could enter into a date and upset me, I'd say.

I agree much better if discussed up front but if it hadn't been would you not take their viewpoint into account when at the table?

What if it was a nut allergy ... would you still order a dish with nuts?

Comparing a serious allergy to a dietary/ethical choice is ridiculous.

People don’t choose to have nut allergies. People choose to be vegan. People choose to eat meat.

A vegan should respect another person dietary choice, just as that person should respect a vegans choice.

It is not ridiculous. You respect the nut allergy person being uncomfortable (even though it is you having the dish not them) but you don't respect the vegan feeling uncomfortable watching you eat a meat dish. Your attitude is "I can do what I want" instead of having the sensitivity to realise your choice is making another person uncomfortable. Being sensitive to another person's feelings is important in my opinion but rather lacking in some people it seems.

Yes it is ridiculous.

An allergy is a medical condition, eating nuts could potentially kill someone allergic to them.

You can’t compare that to veganism, at all. On a plane, if someone has a nut allergy especially airborne they have to inform the airline so there are no nuts because of how serious that allergy can be, you would not see them doing that for someone’s ethical choice on being vegan. So not comparable.

The irony in you saying people should be “sensitive” to others feelings yet in this situation the “vegan” isn’t respecting a meat eaters choice to eat meat.

As I said before, that’s a double standard and you seem to not see that.

Any vegan who had that much of a problem with a meat eater eating meat in-front of them would meet a fellow vegan.

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I understand nut allergies perfectly well thank you from direct day to day experience.

We seem to be from opposite ends of the spectrum. I would take the other person's feelings into account and if they asked me not to eat meat during the date I would respect that request. It is really not a big deal to do that and I would not go on about my rights to eat what i want. It seems you have a different opinion to myself so we will just have to disagree.

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"The selfish "f*ck you" attitude from some posters is eye opening

If somebody asked me if was OK if I didn't have a meat dish during the date because they are a vegan then I would be fine with that. Doesn't stop me eating meat at other times. Shows some respect for the person you are sharing a date with.

My issue wouldn't be because they are vegan it's that they didn't tell you until you're ordering as per the OP. I wouldn't change my order to suit them if they didn't feel it necessary to tell me before the date. Respect works both ways.

[You don’t know they hate the smell of cauliflower cheese until it comes time to order (as you go to order cauliflower cheese).

Would you opt for a non cauliflower cheese option?]

I have rephrased the OP's question. Does it make a difference to your answer?

No. If someone has severe issues over anything then why wouldn't they say upfront? If I had a proper dislike of something and it could enter into a date and upset me, I'd say.

I agree much better if discussed up front but if it hadn't been would you not take their viewpoint into account when at the table?

What if it was a nut allergy ... would you still order a dish with nuts?

Comparing a serious allergy to a dietary/ethical choice is ridiculous.

People don’t choose to have nut allergies. People choose to be vegan. People choose to eat meat.

A vegan should respect another person dietary choice, just as that person should respect a vegans choice.

It is not ridiculous. You respect the nut allergy person being uncomfortable (even though it is you having the dish not them) but you don't respect the vegan feeling uncomfortable watching you eat a meat dish. Your attitude is "I can do what I want" instead of having the sensitivity to realise your choice is making another person uncomfortable. Being sensitive to another person's feelings is important in my opinion but rather lacking in some people it seems.

Yes it is ridiculous.

An allergy is a medical condition, eating nuts could potentially kill someone allergic to them.

You can’t compare that to veganism, at all. On a plane, if someone has a nut allergy especially airborne they have to inform the airline so there are no nuts because of how serious that allergy can be, you would not see them doing that for someone’s ethical choice on being vegan. So not comparable.

The irony in you saying people should be “sensitive” to others feelings yet in this situation the “vegan” isn’t respecting a meat eaters choice to eat meat.

As I said before, that’s a double standard and you seem to not see that.

Any vegan who had that much of a problem with a meat eater eating meat in-front of them would meet a fellow vegan.

I understand nut allergies perfectly well thank you from direct day to day experience.

We seem to be from opposite ends of the spectrum. I would take the other person's feelings into account and if they asked me not to eat meat during the date I would respect that request. It is really not a big deal to do that and I would not go on about my rights to eat what i want. It seems you have a different opinion to myself so we will just have to disagree. "

Well if you understood nut allergies you’d know how it’s not comparable to choosing veganism.

I have family members with nut allergies, they don’t choose to be allergic, it’s potentially life threatening. Choosing not to eat meat is not.

As I said before, it’s all well and good you respecting a vegans choice not to eat meat, but that vegan isn’t respecting your choice to eat meat. So the respect you speak of is pretty much one sided.

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"The selfish "f*ck you" attitude from some posters is eye opening

If somebody asked me if was OK if I didn't have a meat dish during the date because they are a vegan then I would be fine with that. Doesn't stop me eating meat at other times. Shows some respect for the person you are sharing a date with.

My issue wouldn't be because they are vegan it's that they didn't tell you until you're ordering as per the OP. I wouldn't change my order to suit them if they didn't feel it necessary to tell me before the date. Respect works both ways.

[You don’t know they hate the smell of cauliflower cheese until it comes time to order (as you go to order cauliflower cheese).

Would you opt for a non cauliflower cheese option?]

I have rephrased the OP's question. Does it make a difference to your answer?

No. If someone has severe issues over anything then why wouldn't they say upfront? If I had a proper dislike of something and it could enter into a date and upset me, I'd say.

I agree much better if discussed up front but if it hadn't been would you not take their viewpoint into account when at the table?

What if it was a nut allergy ... would you still order a dish with nuts?

Comparing a serious allergy to a dietary/ethical choice is ridiculous.

People don’t choose to have nut allergies. People choose to be vegan. People choose to eat meat.

A vegan should respect another person dietary choice, just as that person should respect a vegans choice.

It is not ridiculous. You respect the nut allergy person being uncomfortable (even though it is you having the dish not them) but you don't respect the vegan feeling uncomfortable watching you eat a meat dish. Your attitude is "I can do what I want" instead of having the sensitivity to realise your choice is making another person uncomfortable. Being sensitive to another person's feelings is important in my opinion but rather lacking in some people it seems.

Yes it is ridiculous.

An allergy is a medical condition, eating nuts could potentially kill someone allergic to them.

You can’t compare that to veganism, at all. On a plane, if someone has a nut allergy especially airborne they have to inform the airline so there are no nuts because of how serious that allergy can be, you would not see them doing that for someone’s ethical choice on being vegan. So not comparable.

The irony in you saying people should be “sensitive” to others feelings yet in this situation the “vegan” isn’t respecting a meat eaters choice to eat meat.

As I said before, that’s a double standard and you seem to not see that.

Any vegan who had that much of a problem with a meat eater eating meat in-front of them would meet a fellow vegan.

I understand nut allergies perfectly well thank you from direct day to day experience.

We seem to be from opposite ends of the spectrum. I would take the other person's feelings into account and if they asked me not to eat meat during the date I would respect that request. It is really not a big deal to do that and I would not go on about my rights to eat what i want. It seems you have a different opinion to myself so we will just have to disagree.

Well if you understood nut allergies you’d know how it’s not comparable to choosing veganism.

I have family members with nut allergies, they don’t choose to be allergic, it’s potentially life threatening. Choosing not to eat meat is not.

As I said before, it’s all well and good you respecting a vegans choice not to eat meat, but that vegan isn’t respecting your choice to eat meat. So the respect you speak of is pretty much one sided. "

My child has a lifelong nut allergy and I have lived with it for the last 20 years so yes I do understand nut allergies intimately.

To give respect you don't have to demand respect which is I think the point from my posts you are missing.

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"My child has a lifelong nut allergy and I have lived with it for the last 20 years so yes I do understand nut allergies intimately.

To give respect you don't have to demand respect which is I think the point from my posts you are missing."

If that’s the case you should understand how the two aren’t comparable then.

Demanding respect wasn’t mentioned, so there is no point missed, but it’s pretty pointless giving respect to someone who equally doesn’t respect you. I wouldn’t meet someone who doesn’t respect my decisions when there’s lots out there who would. But then again, not everyone has the same amount of “choice” here.

Each to their own though. Plenty of meat eaters I can meet and enjoy my love of meat with.

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It is not to do with choice and yes you are demanding others respect your choice. That is fine only that I would be more sensitive to the person I am sharing a date with that you would.

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

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By *rwhowhatwherewhyMan
over a year ago

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I'd just carry on as normal, so long as they don't try to impose their choice on me.

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"It is not to do with choice and yes you are demanding others respect your choice. That is fine only that I would be more sensitive to the person I am sharing a date with that you would"

It is everything to do with choice.

Vegans choose to be vegans for various reasons.

I don’t “demand” respect so please don’t tell me what I do and don’t do, since you don’t know me. What I would like is the respect I have for someone to be reciprocated as any other normal person would, apart from you it seems.

But you’re obviously happy to meet people and respect their choices whilst not getting the same respect back, that’s up to you!

You are free to be more “sensitive” by not eating meat in-front of a vegan, it’s pointless though when that vegan clearly isn’t “sensitive” to your choice. The irony of that. As I said, plenty of meat eaters I can enjoy my love of meat with instead. Win win!

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