FabSwingers.com forum: Smacking kids is it criminal

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

To clip a little shit round the ear

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No it is not lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"To clip a little shit round the ear"
now a days unfortunately yes it is

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Should it be?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

never did me any harm, andy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's a sign you've lost control

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes it is , and there is never justification for hitting a child .

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Should it be criminal? Maybe not.

Should it be acceptable? Absolutely not.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Should it be?"

Yes.

Absolutely no reason to hit a child.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's fucking disgusting to hit a child and if you do it you're worthless as a human.

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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago

I’m an adult they’re a child, as an adult I should be able to come up with another method of dealing with things.

I have never been struck and I never struck my own children. It would have broken my heart to do so and I would feel like I had failed them.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"I’m an adult they’re a child, as an adult I should be able to come up with another method of dealing with things.

I have never been struck and I never struck my own children. It would have broken my heart to do so and I would feel like I had failed them. "

I agree. Either they're lashing out in anger, or it's cold and calculated. If you were doing it to an adult it'd be horrific either way.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's not illegal, but it is complex. See below.

It is unlawful for a parent or carer to smack their child, except where this amounts to ‘reasonable punishment’. This defence is laid down in section 58 Children Act 2004, but it is not defined in this legislation.

Whether a ‘smack’ amounts to reasonable punishment will depend on the circumstances of each case, taking into consideration factors like the age of the child and the nature of the smack.

There are strict guidelines covering the use of reasonable punishment and it will not be possible to rely on the defence if you use severe physical punishment on your child which amounts to wounding, actual bodily harm, grievous bodily harm or child cruelty.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I’m an adult they’re a child, as an adult I should be able to come up with another method of dealing with things.

I have never been struck and I never struck my own children. It would have broken my heart to do so and I would feel like I had failed them. "

Exactly.

This whole ‘it didn’t do me any harm’ is bullshit. Most people are affected in some way or another. I have no idea why you would even WANT to hit your child, let alone try to justify it. You’re an adult. Act like an adult. There are plenty of ways to affectively discipline your child, that doesn’t involve hitting them or hurting them physically in any way.

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By *hezuMan
over a year ago

London

"It's fucking disgusting to hit a child and if you do it you're worthless as a human.

Ok then thats a bit far

I got beats as a kid and I'm good if anything I love my parents more for raising me tough and disciplined

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By *ay4realstr8TV/TS
over a year ago

hoyland

No it’s not it’s what’s wrong with youth today, I ain’t old but I got a good crack as a 90s kid and I know right from wrong,

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"I’m an adult they’re a child, as an adult I should be able to come up with another method of dealing with things.

I have never been struck and I never struck my own children. It would have broken my heart to do so and I would feel like I had failed them.

Exactly.

If memory serves, large studies show that physical punishment causes harm in children, anyway. Trauma.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

I was physically corrected, shall we say. There are other ways to be firm and fair with children.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No it’s not it’s what’s wrong with youth today, I ain’t old but I got a good crack as a 90s kid and I know right from wrong,

No, it’s not what’s wrong with the youth today whatsoever.

I’m also a 90s kid, (younger than you) and I was never hit, smacked or whatever. I was very well behaved, still am. I have younger siblings - my youngest sister is twelve and she is extremely well behaved, happy etc. And was never smacked.

There’s no need for it at all.

If the only way you know how to discipline your child is by smacking them, you should really reconsider being a parent. There are so many more affective, better ways to handle things.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My dad knocked 10 bells of shit out of me growing up. After telling us all his parents never raised a hand to him.

Parenting by fear never works. I won't be attending his funeral when the day comes.

Horrendous human being.

I've got 2 boys. Never have and never will lay a finger on them.

So many other, much more effective ways of dealing with children.

Physical abuse is not one of them.

Trust me, taking away the Playstation controller seems to work instantly lol

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"No it’s not it’s what’s wrong with youth today, I ain’t old but I got a good crack as a 90s kid and I know right from wrong,

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see i never liked the phrase youth today it seems every generation uses it so it must be just youth and the problem they have now is a need for attention/fame all these snapchat live vids of child crime just so its shared bollox kids only seem worse as vids are available but i dont see this generation of kids any worse than when i was a kid if anything there much more clued up about the big bad world

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My parents used to hit me lightly if I was really bad (and I was

), never really did me any harm. I couldn't even imagine hitting my daughter though, we just have an understanding and respect each other too much. I guess everyone is different.......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's fucking disgusting to hit a child and if you do it you're worthless as a human.

Ok then thats a bit far

I got beats as a kid and I'm good if anything I love my parents more for raising me tough and disciplined"

No, the bit far bit is an adult beating kids, all the people saying "it did me no harm" are like the people who say smoking is okay because their nan has done it for 60 years with no problems.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

It depends on where you are, your relationship with the child and other factors.

If it's not a child in your care then it's assault. If it's a child in your care, it's right to look for a better way that's not potentially abusive. Build, don't break.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No it’s not it’s what’s wrong with youth today, I ain’t old but I got a good crack as a 90s kid and I know right from wrong,

absolutly, cant believe how many snowflakes are in this forum, i wasnt hit everyday, just when i did something really bad, did i do it again, no i didnt, all my peers were also smacked, did they die or hate thier parents, no, did they go and rob mcdonalds no, maybe its time it was more acceptable, i understand the reasons for banning it, but firstly it did work, most over 40 got smacked, like everything used in moderation its a tool that works, abuse however is a different story,problem is that we as a sociaty cand tell the difference, im sure my comments will enrage many, so please keep comments polite

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hitting a child is abuse - if you hit your child you don't deserve the privilege of being a parent .

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By *heekyFlirtyCoupleCouple
over a year ago

Stockport

"To clip a little shit round the ear"

As an adult I wouldn’t like anyone to give me a clip around the ear...... but personally I think the whole worlds gone mad.....

Mrs J

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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago

I can’t imagine what it must be like to be hit by someone you love and who says they love you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My son only ever had a slap once. He laughed and said it didn't hurt, so that wasn't used again.

Different children respond to different things. Our eldest always responded to being told calmly that what he did was wrong and why. Never worked with our youngest, he responded better to a more traditional punishment such as sending him to his room or stopping him going out.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Personally I think the ignoring of children for the internet/phone is far far more damaging to children and their behaviour ... it is a heart breaking side effect of the modern day

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"It's fucking disgusting to hit a child and if you do it you're worthless as a human.

Ok then thats a bit far

I got beats as a kid and I'm good if anything I love my parents more for raising me tough and disciplined

No, the bit far bit is an adult beating kids, all the people saying "it did me no harm" are like the people who say smoking is okay because their nan has done it for 60 years with no problems.

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smoking is ok

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By *a LunaWoman
over a year ago

South Wales

Instilling fear into a child (which is what hitting does) is never going to be ok.

I had pretty severe leatherings as a child for pretty inconsequential stuff, looking back, and all it did was make me tread on eggshells until the day i was big enough to catch that raised hand and say “No. Enough.”

The shock of me turning and standing up to them physically meant they never hit me again. Which means it wasn’t about discipline, it was about power.

I have a stern look/tone that is enough to make my kids take note.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"No it’s not it’s what’s wrong with youth today, I ain’t old but I got a good crack as a 90s kid and I know right from wrong,

If I'm a snowflake for wanting better for children then I had myself, then I'm proud to be a snowflake.

Society strives to improve. Especially the welfare of the most vulnerable.

I find it fascinating that you cast all your opponents as snowflakes then ask for civility.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No it’s not it’s what’s wrong with youth today, I ain’t old but I got a good crack as a 90s kid and I know right from wrong,

Hitting a child should never be acceptable.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No it’s not it’s what’s wrong with youth today, I ain’t old but I got a good crack as a 90s kid and I know right from wrong,

Yes. A snowflake because we don’t think hitting children is right.

You’re aware people can have opinions that differ from yours and not be a ‘snowflake’ right?

Always seems that whenever someone is more offended, they play the ‘oh what a bunch of snowflakes!’ card, to one up their argument

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

Reasonable chastisement is not punishment to me dished out as hoc. Not sure six of the best worked at school either.

I do think there is a difference between a small snack on the back of the child's hand if the intent is to try and save their life to stop them running into traffic if all other attempts have failed. I think people are confusing reasonable chastisement with systematic beatings

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"My dad knocked 10 bells of shit out of me growing up. After telling us all his parents never raised a hand to him.

Parenting by fear never works. I won't be attending his funeral when the day comes.

Horrendous human being.

I've got 2 boys. Never have and never will lay a finger on them.

So many other, much more effective ways of dealing with children.

Physical abuse is not one of them.

Trust me, taking away the Playstation controller seems to work instantly lol

Playstation and phone confiscation bothers me a little. Why did they have these items in the first place? Have we created addicts who'll do anything and peform like monkey's for a fix? Do WE realise thats what we've done? I think parenting should be based on values, empathy and the child actually understanding their behaviour and what they've done wrong or right, and actually wanting to do better...... just mho.....

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By *ynecplCouple
over a year ago

Newcastle upon Tyne

Not sure because the alternative is a bit of mental cruelty instead. Takes toys away from them, make them sit on a step etc etc. At least a little tap and the word no was clear and definitive.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Not sure because the alternative is a bit of mental cruelty instead. Takes toys away from them, make them sit on a step etc etc. At least a little tap and the word no was clear and definitive."

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Not sure because the alternative is a bit of mental cruelty instead. Takes toys away from them, make them sit on a step etc etc. At least a little tap and the word no was clear and definitive."

I hurt you because I love you, now come and give me a hug...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"My dad knocked 10 bells of shit out of me growing up. After telling us all his parents never raised a hand to him.

Parenting by fear never works. I won't be attending his funeral when the day comes.

Horrendous human being.

I've got 2 boys. Never have and never will lay a finger on them.

So many other, much more effective ways of dealing with children.

Physical abuse is not one of them.

Trust me, taking away the Playstation controller seems to work instantly lol

Having a PlayStation is a treat. In most cases, you behave, you get it. Don’t behave? Don’t get it.

My little cousin (who is 13) just had his Xbox taken away for three weeks. His behaviour at home, and at school has dramatically improved. He was near being excluded - now he’s earning reward cards.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes it is, I never smacked my son worst I did was 2 fingers on the back of his hand (see it and feel it) voice generally did the job though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you’re a manager, do you hit your adult employees for doing wrong?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No it’s not it’s what’s wrong with youth today, I ain’t old but I got a good crack as a 90s kid and I know right from wrong,

Yes. A snowflake because we don’t think hitting children is right.

You’re aware people can have opinions that differ from yours and not be a ‘snowflake’ right?

Always seems that whenever someone is more offended, they play the ‘oh what a bunch of snowflakes!’ card, to one up their argument "

yes sorry i was wrong in my discription, however, at school i was caned, it hurt like fuck, couldnt sit for days, went home to tell my dad, hoping he would do something about it, he banned me from watching tv for a week for my trouble, did i missbehave again, no, did it really harm me, no, did i learn a life lesson that doing wrong was bad, yes, and thats the point

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes it is .

No one should need to resort to violence

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

My parents played in asbestos as children. Never did them any harm!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"My dad knocked 10 bells of shit out of me growing up. After telling us all his parents never raised a hand to him.

Parenting by fear never works. I won't be attending his funeral when the day comes.

Horrendous human being.

I've got 2 boys. Never have and never will lay a finger on them.

So many other, much more effective ways of dealing with children.

Physical abuse is not one of them.

Trust me, taking away the Playstation controller seems to work instantly lol

So what should we do instead?

Ignore advancement in technology and give them wooden toys?

We live in the digital age. We move with the times.

Saying me giving them a Playstation means it's my fault they've misbehaved?

And you've also assumed I've made my kids addicts.

You know zilch about me and my parenting skills.

Come down from your judgy ivory tower and converse like a human being instead of condescending.

Park the psycho babble attempts and converse properly

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"My parents played in asbestos as children. Never did them any harm! "

My mum turned to hard drugs, drink, and ran away constantly when she was 10 as her mum died. Didn’t do her any harm!

(Was sober by 15 btw)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Hitting a child is abuse - if you hit your child you don't deserve the privilege of being a parent ."

^this

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"My dad knocked 10 bells of shit out of me growing up. After telling us all his parents never raised a hand to him.

Parenting by fear never works. I won't be attending his funeral when the day comes.

Horrendous human being.

I've got 2 boys. Never have and never will lay a finger on them.

So many other, much more effective ways of dealing with children.

Physical abuse is not one of them.

Trust me, taking away the Playstation controller seems to work instantly lol

So what should we do instead?

Ignore advancement in technology and give them wooden toys?

We live in the digital age. We move with the times.

Saying me giving them a Playstation means it's my fault they've misbehaved?

And you've also assumed I've made my kids addicts.

You know zilch about me and my parenting skills.

Come down from your judgy ivory tower and converse like a human being instead of condescending.

Park the psycho babble attempts and converse properly "

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

I don't think a little slap on the back of the legs does them any harm, if you can't see the difference between beating a child and giving them a warning tap, it doesn't matter if it's legal or not, you'll beat them anyway.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Not sure because the alternative is a bit of mental cruelty instead. Takes toys away from them, make them sit on a step etc etc. At least a little tap and the word no was clear and definitive.

I hurt you because I love you, now come and give me a hug... "

Just put mentally between I and hurt and that's much of the alternative used by many ppl with confiscation, grounding, language and shaming. The mind is most precious thing a child possesses, its innocent and plastic and needs protecting even more than the body it's their future potential..... I can't hit my girl or anyone for that matter because I don't believe in hurting ppl, try to think a clever way around it, both physical and mental.....

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I used to get the slipper when i was being a cunt made me stronger

Yes i have hit my kids on occasion especially in my 20s with the oldest boy i was a very controlling parent with him too but with each child iv become softer its ironic tho the one i hit most became a teen tare away until he hit 18 and i told him now you will be treated as a man if you give me shit theres no safety net i will drop you he tested it i did now hes a worker total change the other 2 iv hit less are well behaved the youngest i dont see myself ever hitting but my point is those who are saying it changes bad kids are wrong bad kids are influenced by bad kids the parents have no say at all your not there mate

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By *eliWoman
over a year ago

"I’m an adult they’re a child, as an adult I should be able to come up with another method of dealing with things.

I have never been struck and I never struck my own children. It would have broken my heart to do so and I would feel like I had failed them.

Exactly.

It's fricking piss poor justification for something.

If you can't effectively communicate with your child without resorting to violence, work on that. Be a better person.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"I don't think a little slap on the back of the legs does them any harm, if you can't see the difference between beating a child and giving them a warning tap, it doesn't matter if it's legal or not, you'll beat them anyway."

My understanding is that a child doesn't understand the difference, and being asked to accept, love, even immediately show affection, to someone who's just shown you (even minor) violence is a psychological head fuck. And my understanding is that across a population it does do long term psychological harm.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"To clip a little shit round the ear"

Ears are on a child's head. To clip them around the ear would involve hitting them around the head.It is very wrong to hit a child around the head.

Some are saying that they were smacked as a child.. well when I was 9 a school teacher hit a boy hard around the head in front of the whole class because the boy could not do the maths on the blackboard.

Thank fuck society has moved on x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Or smacking them, giving them a ‘tap’ or whatever and sending them to their room so they can sit and think about why their parent just hurt them. Don’t even know which is worse.

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

People are confusing the reasonable chastisement of a child with physical assault and domestic violence.

What is deemed reasonable is the reasonable person test in law.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/smacking-to-be-outlawed-in-scotland-as-ban-is-backed-1-4796316

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Not sure because the alternative is a bit of mental cruelty instead. Takes toys away from them, make them sit on a step etc etc. At least a little tap and the word no was clear and definitive.

I hurt you because I love you, now come and give me a hug...

Losing privileges and being shamed is a natural consequence for bad behaviour that continues for the rest of your life.

If assault does, the perpetrator is suddenly a criminal when you're no longer little.

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By *adetMan
over a year ago

South of Ipswich

You're actually posting this publicly? You sound almost proud that you had to use violence towards your children

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman
over a year ago

On a mooch

No child should be hit, there are other ways to deal with misbehaving and if started from a very young age work, from a simple appropriately toned “No” when they start exploring as babies to the time out mat as they get older

I’ve smacked my son once on the back of his legs in his life. It was a gut reaction after he got away from my father and ran out into the road with a car coming. A stranger got there before me and scooped him out of the way of an approaching car.

It wasn’t a good feeling and I know my emotions were all over the place. The next day seeing a dead pidgeon in the same part of the road, served better as a re-warning of the danger of roads to him, than my slap to his legs.

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By *arry247Couple
over a year ago

Wakefield

No it is not criminal and it is not abuse.

The problem is some parents hit their children when they have lost control rather than as a considered punishment that is when criminal action may take place.

If more children were disciplined including smacked today there would be no knife crime.

In the 1950's & 60's all boys were encouraged to carry knives but there was no knife crime.

Children were disciplined including at school. In my school the boys were given the belt or strap on the hand and girls had to write out lines.

One teacher gave the boys a choice lines or the belt. Without fail all the boys chose the belt, as though it hurt for a short time lines took up to an hour to write out.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I used to get the slipper when i was being a cunt made me stronger

Wow. Just. Wow.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I used to get the slipper when i was being a cunt made me stronger

Disgusting behaviour, you will never convince me that what you did is acceptable.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No it is not criminal and it is not abuse.

The problem is some parents hit their children when they have lost control rather than as a considered punishment that is when criminal action may take place.

If more children were disciplined including smacked today there would be no knife crime.

In the 1950's & 60's all boys were encouraged to carry knives but there was no knife crime.

Children were disciplined including at school. In my school the boys were given the belt or strap on the hand and girls had to write out lines.

One teacher gave the boys a choice lines or the belt. Without fail all the boys chose the belt, as though it hurt for a short time lines took up to an hour to write out."

‘There would be no knife crime’

I suspect that to not be true. Just a hunch though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"My dad knocked 10 bells of shit out of me growing up. After telling us all his parents never raised a hand to him.

Parenting by fear never works. I won't be attending his funeral when the day comes.

Horrendous human being.

I've got 2 boys. Never have and never will lay a finger on them.

So many other, much more effective ways of dealing with children.

Physical abuse is not one of them.

Trust me, taking away the Playstation controller seems to work instantly lol

So what should we do instead?

Ignore advancement in technology and give them wooden toys?

We live in the digital age. We move with the times.

Saying me giving them a Playstation means it's my fault they've misbehaved?

And you've also assumed I've made my kids addicts.

You know zilch about me and my parenting skills.

Come down from your judgy ivory tower and converse like a human being instead of condescending.

Park the psycho babble attempts and converse properly "

Touchy, and no need to be rude buddy.... .....I said "we", because I have yet to see a child who does not at least have a mild addiction to technology. My own ten year old girls is definitely addicted to her phone! So please don't take things so personally, I was admitting fault myself

(A common problem with parenting is that if you offer an option, ppl take as advice and very personally and get defensive, it should be about learning what you can from every possible source, same with life in general IMO)

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

Almost everyone I know of my age had a smack as a child and most of them are perfectly fine now, I've been lucky with my daughter as she's generally very well behaved, abit hormonal at times but she's a good child.

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By *eliWoman
over a year ago

"People are confusing the reasonable chastisement of a child with physical assault and domestic violence.

What is deemed reasonable is the reasonable person test in law.

Reasonable chastisement? The reasonable person test when applied to this thread would suggest that there isn't such a thing. Smacking has fallen out of favour now and I think it's about time.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We can’t hit adults for pissing us off, we can’t hit animals for pissing us off, it’s illogical to think it’s acceptable to hit a small human who’s still learning. There are times a toddler or very small child may need physical help to control themselves, some people with complex needs need this as well for safety or boundaries but that’s different than striking someone because you dislike their behaviour.

I don’t know how criminal it should be, but it’s not acceptable at all.

Mrs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We can’t hit adults for pissing us off, we can’t hit animals for pissing us off, it’s illogical to think it’s acceptable to hit a small human who’s still learning. There are times a toddler or very small child may need physical help to control themselves, some people with complex needs need this as well for safety or boundaries but that’s different than striking someone because you dislike their behaviour.

I don’t know how criminal it should be, but it’s not acceptable at all.

Mrs "

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By *AYENCouple
over a year ago

Lincolnshire

Haha, good question, but a question impossible to answer without a context.

Your own 7 year old child or the 6'2", 17 year old child that's just thrown a firework at your pregnant wife?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don’t know how criminal it should be, but it’s not acceptable at all.

Mrs "

This right here ^^^^^^

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Not sure because the alternative is a bit of mental cruelty instead. Takes toys away from them, make them sit on a step etc etc. At least a little tap and the word no was clear and definitive.

I hurt you because I love you, now come and give me a hug...

Losing privileges and being shamed is a natural consequence for bad behaviour that continues for the rest of your life.

If assault does, the perpetrator is suddenly a criminal when you're no longer little. "

Only learning from your mistakes and reforming prevents this. It's a mindset and a level of respect a person needs to learn, ans there are many ways to learn I'm sure you'll agree. It's why we don't hang ppl or send them to Auatralia these days..... sadly there's no teaching some folk and that's a lesson I learned later in life.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Also I had more than the average amount of smacks as a child when it was acceptable to do so and it did impact me as an adult. The biggest way was not knowing how to parent as my examples were utterly useless at coping with normal ( albeit frustrating) child behaviours. As an adult I believed I was too much work, always difficult, emotional and just bad. I’m ok now it’s just my history but it’s still difficult to parent when things get frustrating as I have to use logic and skills I wasn’t taught to manage. We learn to parent from our parents.

-Mrs.

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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago

Manchester (he/him)

In my opinion there is never any reason for physical violence, on any other human, let alone on your child!

As others have said; it's an example that you've lost control and you're teaching your kids what love looks like. So you're teaching your kids that love means hitting is justified. Is that OK? No I didn't think so.

There are other ways of dealing with bad behaviour, ways that use respect and boundaries.

My daughter has grown up into a wonderful kind and strong woman, my son a kind generous and loving boy and my others are the same. They don't bicker or argue, I've taught them how to resolve differences and to respect.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Haha, good question, but a question impossible to answer without a context.

Your own 7 year old child or the 6'2", 17 year old child that's just thrown a firework at your pregnant wife?"

I think a 17 year old is not fully a child any longer even if still impulsive and erratic and that’s very complex. That indicates a teen who needs serious help if they show that sort of dangerous behaviour to others. I would choose natural consequences for that and report that myself or would seek mental health help for a teen behaving that way before they do more harm to others.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I used to get the slipper when i was being a cunt made me stronger

Disgusting behaviour, you will never convince me that what you did is acceptable."
im not trying to convince you

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By *utley71Man
over a year ago

Stockport

"No it’s not it’s what’s wrong with youth today, I ain’t old but I got a good crack as a 90s kid and I know right from wrong,

Hitting a child should never be acceptable. "

Hitting ANYONE should never be acceptable...

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I used to get the slipper when i was being a cunt made me stronger

Wow. Just. Wow."
stop looking at my penis its not for you

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"No it’s not it’s what’s wrong with youth today, I ain’t old but I got a good crack as a 90s kid and I know right from wrong,

Hitting a child should never be acceptable.

Hitting ANYONE should never be acceptable... "
say that when someones burgling your house or hitting you

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By *ollycouple71Couple
over a year ago

manchester

"I used to get the slipper when i was being a cunt made me stronger

Wow. Just. Wow.stop looking at my penis its not for you"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No it’s not it’s what’s wrong with youth today, I ain’t old but I got a good crack as a 90s kid and I know right from wrong,

Hitting a child should never be acceptable.

Hitting ANYONE should never be acceptable... say that when someones burgling your house or hitting you"

I'd still say that in ALL circumstances tbf

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No it’s not it’s what’s wrong with youth today, I ain’t old but I got a good crack as a 90s kid and I know right from wrong,

"
totslly agree with you on this one.

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By *hubaysiWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

"It's fucking disgusting to hit a child and if you do it you're worthless as a human.

So my parents were worthless humans? Thanks for that!

I was hit, in fact I was severely beaten but it taught me respect for others. It hasn’t harmed me! Some parents these days are scared of disciplining their kids.

My personal view is to take away something from a child they like or cancel a longed for trip, they will remember the implications of their behaviour more than receiving violence.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I used to get the slipper when i was being a cunt made me stronger

Wow. Just. Wow.stop looking at my penis its not for you"

Delusions of grandeur are strong in this one

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I used to get the slipper when i was being a cunt made me stronger

Disgusting behaviour, you will never convince me that what you did is acceptable.im not trying to convince you

Maybe not but trying to justify your actions isn't on.

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By *hatYorkLadMan
over a year ago

York

A girl I work with keeps telling me about her best friends teenage daughter who she is also a legal guardian for, who refuses to go to school despite the fact her mother has been threatened with prison over her continued absence, has smashed the house up in a rage when they turned Netflix and the internet off as punishment and steals money from her family to buy fags. They tried to find out why she wouldn't go to school and she said she was being bullied, however when they went into school to find out it turned out she was the one doing the bullying and was making life hell for the other kids. My dad would have given me a whack if I'd carried on like that! I'm not saying kids should be beaten up but they should know there is a line and consequences if they cross it.

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By *lbinoGorillaMan
over a year ago

Redditch

Interesting read

I'm someone who's halfway between the two camps in this - I'd say mild physical chastisement when all else has failed would be acceptable. But I don't have any children and so it's academic

However, I think the real problems with today's youth behaviour are a result of society's removing the threat of punishment pretty much altogether. Certainly in schools there's nothing the teachers and heads can really do, and the kids know this.

And don't forget that most kids are, in a group at least, bastard coated bastards with a bastard filling. Remember Lord Of The Flies?

And before anyone says that last paragraph is bollocks, why do so many tearaway who go into the Army, where they're shouted at and physically stretched and punished if necessary, suddenly have a complete turnaround in behaviour and respond so well to this environment?

It used to be that adults were in charge and kids did as they were told. Now it feels like it's the other way round

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I used to get the slipper when i was being a cunt made me stronger

Disgusting behaviour, you will never convince me that what you did is acceptable.im not trying to convince you

Maybe not but trying to justify your actions isn't on. "
not doing that either im actually agreeing that hitting him as a child was pointless changed nothing he was going to do what he wanted to do either way as his ultimate goal was impressing his boys not me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A girl I work with keeps telling me about her best friends teenage daughter who she is also a legal guardian for, who refuses to go to school despite the fact her mother has been threatened with prison over her continued absence, has smashed the house up in a rage when they turned Netflix and the internet off as punishment and steals money from her family to buy fags. They tried to find out why she wouldn't go to school and she said she was being bullied, however when they went into school to find out it turned out she was the one doing the bullying and was making life hell for the other kids. My dad would have given me a whack if I'd carried on like that! I'm not saying kids should be beaten up but they should know there is a line and consequences if they cross it."

But why do the consequences need to be physical violence?

As an adult if I do wrong the consequences will affect my life, I'd lose my job or my car or my freedom. Surely that's the lesson that needs to be learned at an early age?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

All this people who smack their kids are the worst kind of human stuff is just stupid and wrong. My dad smacked me as a kid and he is the best human I know, always will be. He taught me how to be who I am today and all kinds other things that would take me all day to list on here and I can't thank him enough for that. He also taught me that rules are set for a reason and not to break them, which as a teen very likely guided me away from a completely different life, so again I thank him.

Beatings are wrong, but I don't think smacks are (hand or bum). Any form of punishment can trigger a child as they are all different, so you have to find what works for them.

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By *ommenhimCouple
over a year ago

wigan

"I used to get the slipper when i was being a cunt made me stronger

What happens to you now instead of the slipper ?

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By *wist my nipplesCouple
over a year ago

North East Scotland, mostly

The precise scenario you mention OP is illegal in Scotland.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Id also like to add shouting, isolation, negative inforcement using material things and other forms of punishment can do just as much damaged as a smack.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

Reading this and some of your past posts op seems to me your a bit to keen in dishing out the violence. Not someone i would want to be around. When i was growing up it was the complete norm to get smacked everyone got smacked its how it was. When i had my son i didnt smack him apart from once when i lost control. I wasnt great on giving out discipline and my son even says i was too soft on him but hes turned out just fine. I dont know if hitting your kids is against the law but a woman here had her kid taken of her as she was reported for hitting her kid in public

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By *r FirecrackerMan
over a year ago

London

It should be illegal everywhere! It’s a sign of losing control and therefore resorting to violence, not a lesson any child should be taught.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Kids don’t need to be smacked for punishment. These days it’s far worse for them if you turn off the WiFi as a punishment. They won’t miss behave then.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I was never smacked and was never a little shit. Never gotten into trouble or even had a detention at school. My mum disciplined us but in different ways.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I used to get the slipper when i was being a cunt made me stronger

Disgusting behaviour, you will never convince me that what you did is acceptable.im not trying to convince you

Maybe not but trying to justify your actions isn't on. not doing that either im actually agreeing that hitting him as a child was pointless changed nothing he was going to do what he wanted to do either way as his ultimate goal was impressing his boys not me"

That didn't stop you from hitting your other 2 children. Your kids your conscience.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I used to get the slipper when i was being a cunt made me stronger

What happens to you now instead of the slipper ? "
i didnt use slipper my dad did

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By *hatYorkLadMan
over a year ago

York

But why do the consequences need to be physical violence?

As an adult if I do wrong the consequences will affect my life, I'd lose my job or my car or my freedom. Surely that's the lesson that needs to be learned at an early age?

As I said, she smashed the family home up when they took Netflix and the internet off her as a punishment. This girl has never had a smack and probably never will, but they have tried literally everything else to get her to change her ways to no effect and she isn't even bothered if her own mum gets sent to prison for her truancy. She just sounds vile to me, life on the dole awaits. How do you deal with someone like that?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I definitely am against a little smack here and there. If it’s not ok to do it to a partner then it’s never ok on a child.

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By *hatYorkLadMan
over a year ago

York

"Id also like to add shouting, isolation, negative inforcement using material things and other forms of punishment can do just as much damaged as a smack. "

So just let them do what they like without consequence basically?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

But why do the consequences need to be physical violence?

As an adult if I do wrong the consequences will affect my life, I'd lose my job or my car or my freedom. Surely that's the lesson that needs to be learned at an early age?

I think there are things far deeper wrong here. Nothing to do with lack of smacking or would be solved by that.

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

Until the law changes in England and Wales then parents can use reasonable chastisement. It does not mean that it is compulsory to use it so those who do not use it can sit on their moral high high ground. That is the law.

It will change soon in Scotland and the Looney Tune left will ensure that it is banned in England soon after.

How this will be enforced then God only knows ..

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By *utley71Man
over a year ago

Stockport

"No it’s not it’s what’s wrong with youth today, I ain’t old but I got a good crack as a 90s kid and I know right from wrong,

Hitting a child should never be acceptable.

Hitting ANYONE should never be acceptable... say that when someones burgling your house or hitting you"

You can restraint some one without hitting them. I have been and I did restraint without hitting...

More respect is needed, then no one gets burgled or needs to be hitting any one...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No it’s not it’s what’s wrong with youth today, I ain’t old but I got a good crack as a 90s kid and I know right from wrong,

Hitting a child should never be acceptable.

Hitting ANYONE should never be acceptable... say that when someones burgling your house or hitting you

You can restraint some one without hitting them. I have been and I did restraint without hitting...

More respect is needed, then no one gets burgled or needs to be hitting any one..."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well it didn't do me or my siblings any harm and a smack was always a last resort,people are to quick to judge these days,we all as adults should know the difference between a slap/smack or a good hiding

In my Dad's youth they would get a clip around the head off the local Bobby and no one shouted abuse ,so no I don't think it should be a criminal offence

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

If you assault an adult, you commit a crime.

Why is assaulting a child excusable, but assaulting an adult is not?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

But why do the consequences need to be physical violence?

As an adult if I do wrong the consequences will affect my life, I'd lose my job or my car or my freedom. Surely that's the lesson that needs to be learned at an early age?

I think there are things far deeper wrong here. Nothing to do with lack of smacking or would be solved by that. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Id also like to add shouting, isolation, negative inforcement using material things and other forms of punishment can do just as much damaged as a smack.

So just let them do what they like without consequence basically?"

I didn't say I'm against punishment, my longer post above the the one you quoted says most of what I have to say on this topic on here.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's fucking disgusting to hit a child and if you do it you're worthless as a human.

Ok then thats a bit far

I got beats as a kid and I'm good if anything I love my parents more for raising me tough and disciplined"

I totally agree with you ,I got many a smack as a kid and I loved my parents to

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

"Well it didn't do me or my siblings any harm and a smack was always a last resort,people are to quick to judge these days,we all as adults should know the difference between a slap/smack or a good hiding

In my Dad's youth they would get a clip around the head off the local Bobby and no one shouted abuse ,so no I don't think it should be a criminal offence"

This

on balance

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If you assault an adult, you commit a crime.

Why is assaulting a child excusable, but assaulting an adult is not?

That’s my argument. I see people smack their kids when I’m at work on a plane and nobody says anything but if the guy were to smack his wife then there would be uproar. It’s just wrong.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I used to get the slipper when i was being a cunt made me stronger

Disgusting behaviour, you will never convince me that what you did is acceptable.im not trying to convince you

That didn't stop you from hitting your other 2 children. Your kids your conscience. "
my youngest iv never hit the middle one not in 2 years cos hes a good boy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I used to get the slipper when i was being a cunt made me stronger

Disgusting behaviour, you will never convince me that what you did is acceptable.im not trying to convince you

That didn't stop you from hitting your other 2 children. Your kids your conscience. my youngest iv never hit the middle one not in 2 years cos hes a good boy"

Ah thats ok then (Not! )

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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago

Manchester (he/him)

"I'm hitting you for your own good"

"I'm hitting you because I love you"

Doesn't that sound ridiculous?

At what other point in life is that acceptable? If I decided to hit a member of staff for dangerous practise, is that OK?

Those of you saying 'I was hit and it didn't do me any harm', actually it did, you remember it, it was traumatic and memorable for you, it changed your behaviour and memory indelibly. That's harm.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I used to get the slipper when i was being a cunt made me stronger

Disgusting behaviour, you will never convince me that what you did is acceptable.im not trying to convince you

That didn't stop you from hitting your other 2 children. Your kids your conscience. my youngest iv never hit the middle one not in 2 years cos hes a good boy

Ah thats ok then (Not! )

i like bill and ted too

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

""I'm hitting you for your own good"

"I'm hitting you because I love you"

Doesn't that sound ridiculous?

At what other point in life is that acceptable? If I decided to hit a member of staff for dangerous practise, is that OK?

Those of you saying 'I was hit and it didn't do me any harm', actually it did, you remember it, it was traumatic and memorable for you, it changed your behaviour and memory indelibly. That's harm. "
if it changed the behaviour isnt that a good thing?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I used to get the slipper when i was being a cunt made me stronger

Disgusting behaviour, you will never convince me that what you did is acceptable.im not trying to convince you

That didn't stop you from hitting your other 2 children. Your kids your conscience. my youngest iv never hit the middle one not in 2 years cos hes a good boy

Ah thats ok then (Not! )

i like bill and ted too"

Unfortunately you can't argue with stupid.

And there's no cure for being a cunt

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I used to get the slipper when i was being a cunt made me stronger

Disgusting behaviour, you will never convince me that what you did is acceptable.im not trying to convince you

That didn't stop you from hitting your other 2 children. Your kids your conscience. my youngest iv never hit the middle one not in 2 years cos hes a good boy

Ah thats ok then (Not! )

i like bill and ted too"

That's right, turn a serious discussion into a joke .

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By *hatYorkLadMan
over a year ago

York

" If I decided to hit a member of staff for dangerous practise, is that OK?

You've never been in the army and seen what happens if someone has a negligent discharge on a live fire range then...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I used to get the slipper when i was being a cunt made me stronger

Disgusting behaviour, you will never convince me that what you did is acceptable.im not trying to convince you

That didn't stop you from hitting your other 2 children. Your kids your conscience. my youngest iv never hit the middle one not in 2 years cos hes a good boy

Ah thats ok then (Not! )

i like bill and ted too

Unfortunately you can't argue with stupid.

And there's no cure for being a cunt"

This ^^^

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

""I'm hitting you for your own good"

"I'm hitting you because I love you"

Doesn't that sound ridiculous?

At what other point in life is that acceptable? If I decided to hit a member of staff for dangerous practise, is that OK?

Those of you saying 'I was hit and it didn't do me any harm', actually it did, you remember it, it was traumatic and memorable for you, it changed your behaviour and memory indelibly. That's harm. "

That's education

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

""I'm hitting you for your own good"

"I'm hitting you because I love you"

Doesn't that sound ridiculous?

At what other point in life is that acceptable? If I decided to hit a member of staff for dangerous practise, is that OK?

Those of you saying 'I was hit and it didn't do me any harm', actually it did, you remember it, it was traumatic and memorable for you, it changed your behaviour and memory indelibly. That's harm. "

Absolutely spot on.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"All this people who smack their kids are the worst kind of human stuff is just stupid and wrong. My dad smacked me as a kid and he is the best human I know, always will be. He taught me how to be who I am today and all kinds other things that would take me all day to list on here and I can't thank him enough for that. He also taught me that rules are set for a reason and not to break them, which as a teen very likely guided me away from a completely different life, so again I thank him.

Beatings are wrong, but I don't think smacks are (hand or bum). Any form of punishment can trigger a child as they are all different, so you have to find what works for them. "
very true and wise words. I was smacked as a kid. My dad had very old fashioned views and therefore taught them to me..manners..respect for others and belongings and most important respect your elders..something which a lot of kids these days dont seem to have. Hopefully ive taught the same values to my kids and they will tuen out decent human beings.

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

If a kid on a plane kept kicking my seat I would expect the parent to stop them

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I used to get the slipper when i was being a cunt made me stronger

Disgusting behaviour, you will never convince me that what you did is acceptable.im not trying to convince you

That didn't stop you from hitting your other 2 children. Your kids your conscience. my youngest iv never hit the middle one not in 2 years cos hes a good boy

Ah thats ok then (Not! )

i like bill and ted too

That's right, turn a serious discussion into a joke ."
sarcasm began with you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If a kid on a plane kept kicking my seat I would expect the parent to stop them "

Not by smacking them though. From my experience, it’s the big kids (adults) that push peoples seats when reclined. How do we stop that? Resort to smacking?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I used to get the slipper when i was being a cunt made me stronger

Disgusting behaviour, you will never convince me that what you did is acceptable.im not trying to convince you

That didn't stop you from hitting your other 2 children. Your kids your conscience. my youngest iv never hit the middle one not in 2 years cos hes a good boy

Ah thats ok then (Not! )

i like bill and ted too

Unfortunately you can't argue with stupid.

And there's no cure for being a cunt"
i was gonna respond but its not worth my time judge away your honour

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

You can reason with most adults, you cannot reason with very small children. You definitely cannot reason with an air hostess..

I would not smack a child on a plane

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You can reason with most adults, you cannot reason with very small children. You definitely cannot reason with an air hostess..

I would not smack a child on a plane

As someone who has worked with small children for years, I can tell you now, you certainly can reason with them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You can reason with most adults, you cannot reason with very small children. You definitely cannot reason with an air hostess..

I would not smack a child on a plane

As someone who has worked with small children for years, I can tell you now, you certainly can reason with them. "

People with love and patience can.

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

"You can reason with most adults, you cannot reason with very small children. You definitely cannot reason with an air hostess..

I would not smack a child on a plane

As someone who has worked with small children for years, I can tell you now, you certainly can reason with them. "

Probably easier to reason with a small child than some forumites

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You can reason with most adults, you cannot reason with very small children. You definitely cannot reason with an air hostess..

I would not smack a child on a plane

From my experience on planes, it’s adults that are the hardest to reason with. Good job we are taught how to restrain.

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

"You can reason with most adults, you cannot reason with very small children. You definitely cannot reason with an air hostess..

I would not smack a child on a plane

As someone who has worked with small children for years, I can tell you now, you certainly can reason with them. "

Probably easier to reason with a small child than some forumites

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By *elaxedcplCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

I decided to give e our little one a spank (more a playful tap) on the bottom, his reply was, "again!" With a big smile

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Beatings are wrong, but I don't think smacks are (hand or bum). Any form of punishment can trigger a child as they are all different, so you have to find what works for them. "

. Exactly. I was smacked too, smacked not beaten! There’s a big difference which a lot can’t seem to fathom. Saying my parents are despicable human beings haha. They’re the best parents in the world. Can’t remember smacking mine. Think the eldest got smacked legs once if I remember rightly. My two are the most grounded, polite girls I know. So stone me in the market square for smacking her legs. Ffs

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By *hatYorkLadMan
over a year ago

York

"If a kid on a plane kept kicking my seat I would expect the parent to stop them

Not by smacking them though. From my experience, it’s the big kids (adults) that push peoples seats when reclined. How do we stop that? Resort to smacking? "

This is what I don't get though (I don't have or want kids so it will never be an issue for me), if the parent tells the child to stop it and the child just carries on, where do they go from there? I've observed it many times where the parent will threaten the child with no more sweets or taking their ipad off them etc, and the child just gets angry and starts doing what they were doing even more or lashing out. That would have been the point my dad would have given me a clip round the ear and I'd have stopped pushing his buttons, but that isn't an option now so what else can they do? Most of the time now they just let them carry on for a quiet life and then get arsey when a stranger calls them out for their child poor behaviour.

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...

Sweden made smacking kids illegal in the 1970's.

While only anecdotal, from our view it really hasn't done them any favours.

The house next door to us in Spain is Swedish owned and is regularly rented out to other Swedes.

Without exception when rented by a family with kids it is a nightmare.

Kids as young as 7/8/9 screaming at their parents. Not once or twice, but every day.

One family with two young girls who rented it long term were by far the worst. Every weekday morning from around 7am it would start when the kids decided that they didn't want to go to school. A full hour of screaming and shouting at their parents.

Only yesterday while I was doing a job in the garden I could hear another family walking up the road with a young boy yelling abuse at his parents. As they passed our house I recognised the father. Yep you guessed it. Swedish.

No wonder they gave us Greta.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Beatings are wrong, but I don't think smacks are (hand or bum). Any form of punishment can trigger a child as they are all different, so you have to find what works for them.

So proof that smacking is not really needed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"To clip a little shit round the ear"

Clip round the ear NO! A parent giving a smack on the bottom Yes.

I come from a generation who were given the strap on the hand if misbehaving in school and a smack on the bum when dad came home when he read the letter as to why I got the belt. It did stop a lot of bad behaviour but with a lot of talk of head injuries in sport a clip round the ear I am against as the clip could be harder than intended.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Dog cage is much better

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"To clip a little shit round the ear

Clip round the ear NO! A parent giving a smack on the bottom Yes.

Exactly it was different then. I remember my daughter saying to her dad. OMG dad they hit you at school? Didn’t you tell grandad? He said no I bloody well didn’t. She said why? He said coz I’d have got it again!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If a kid on a plane kept kicking my seat I would expect the parent to stop them

Not by smacking them though. From my experience, it’s the big kids (adults) that push peoples seats when reclined. How do we stop that? Resort to smacking?

People do it as it’s a quick fix or they lose patience. My mum read up on a few psychology books when she was a parent in her mid 30s after having me young. She learned other ways to discipline but they take time and patience. Lots don’t have that I guess.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bill being put forward today in Scottish parliament. As from tommorow it will be a criminal offence to smack a child in Scotland

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

"Dog cage is much better

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when your losing why do you always try and turn everything into a joke

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By *layfullsamMan
over a year ago

Solihull

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's a sign you've lost control "

As much as I feel like chinning folk (adults) I don't because it's completely inappropriate. Even more so with a small human.

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT

"Dog cage is much better

when your losing why do you always try and turn everything into a joke"

She's onto you Blake.

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

This

If I win the euro lottery I will pay for adverts on London buses (Yes London) to read..

Reasonable Chastisement of a child is Legal - Get Over It

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By *innerdateMan
over a year ago

Leigh

It’s the politically correct going bonkers, very young children cannot be reasoned with they don’t understand so a short sharp smack is a good method of showing the:they are wrong, we are not talking a beating or bludgeoning some one, I know many may not agree but training a child what is right and wrong is like training a puppy, and once the child or puppy knows what is right and wrong they don’t need the smack as the thought of it is enough to keep them right or good. Also just like a dog, a child is happier if they have boundaries and a routine.

Children have been smacked since caveman times and the children of Hester year have grown up better than the arrogant, cheeky brats of today, many of whom end up on drugs and a life of crime today.

The people passing these laws are plain stupid

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This

If I win the euro lottery I will pay for adverts on London buses (Yes London) to read..

Reasonable Chastisement of a child is Legal - Get Over It "

Bloody hell that might mean you might have to go to that scary London place though!?? Are you sure!!

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By *SAchickWoman
over a year ago

Hillside desolate

"Bill being put forward today in Scottish parliament. As from tommorow it will be a criminal offence to smack a child in Scotland "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It’s the politically correct going bonkers, very young children cannot be reasoned with they don’t understand so a short sharp smack is a good method of showing the:they are wrong, we are not talking a beating or bludgeoning some one, I know many may not agree but training a child what is right and wrong is like training a puppy, and once the child or puppy knows what is right and wrong they don’t need the smack as the thought of it is enough to keep them right or good. Also just like a dog, a child is happier if they have boundaries and a routine.

Children have been smacked since caveman times and the children of Hester year have grown up better than the arrogant, cheeky brats of today, many of whom end up on drugs and a life of crime today.

The people passing these laws are plain stupid"

All children can be reasoned with

I’ve worked with children aged six weeks to eighteen years old.

The six week old babies? Of course they can’t be reasoned with. But what on earth would they be doing to deserve being disciplined?

Children from about a year old? Yep. Can be reasoned with. Can be taught right from wrong. A firm ‘no’ goes a long way with very young children.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This

If I win the euro lottery I will pay for adverts on London buses (Yes London) to read..

Reasonable Chastisement of a child is Legal - Get Over It

Bloody hell that might mean you might have to go to that scary London place though!?? Are you sure!!

God London will be even more of a war zone

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Children have been smacked since caveman times and the children of Hester year have grown up better than the arrogant, cheeky brats of today, many of whom end up on drugs and a life of crime today.

The people passing these laws are plain stupid"

I was reasoned with by voice control. I knew when my mum meant business. No need for a smack at all.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Dog cage is much better

when your losing why do you always try and turn everything into a joke"
im not competing

or arguing in any way i do as i do iv only shared an experience not and explained my opinion has changed

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman
over a year ago

On a mooch

"Exactly it was different then. I remember my daughter saying to her dad. OMG dad they hit you at school? Didn’t you tell grandad? He said no I bloody well didn’t. She said why? He said coz I’d have got it again! "

This made me laugh and oh so true. I had a similar conversation with my lad about my childhood

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Children have been smacked since caveman times and the children of Hester year have grown up better than the arrogant, cheeky brats of today, many of whom end up on drugs and a life of crime today.

The people passing these laws are plain stupid

All children can be reasoned with

I’ve worked with children aged six weeks to eighteen years old.

The six week old babies? Of course they can’t be reasoned with. But what on earth would they be doing to deserve being disciplined?

Children from about a year old? Yep. Can be reasoned with. Can be taught right from wrong. A firm ‘no’ goes a long way with very young children. "

Agreed. This is how me and my siblings were disciplined.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If a kid on a plane kept kicking my seat I would expect the parent to stop them

Not by smacking them though. From my experience, it’s the big kids (adults) that push peoples seats when reclined. How do we stop that? Resort to smacking?

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

Wait for the cases of children reporting their parents to the police..

Then the hand wringers will be out in force

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"To clip a little shit round the ear"

Often it is the little shit's parents that need a clip round the ear.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"To clip a little shit round the ear

Often it is the little shit's parents that need a clip round the ear."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If a kid on a plane kept kicking my seat I would expect the parent to stop them

Not by smacking them though. From my experience, it’s the big kids (adults) that push peoples seats when reclined. How do we stop that? Resort to smacking?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Wait for the cases of children reporting their parents to the police..

Then the hand wringers will be out in force"

Amount of times I said right I’m ringing Esther as a kid

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Smack a child and you lose an emotional connection with the child. That's my experience that I had with my parents.

I never found a connection with them ever again or my siblings.

Hence Life ...

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

"Smack a child and you lose an emotional connection with the child. That's my experience that I had with my parents.

I never found a connection with them ever again or my siblings.

Hence Life ... "

But what came first.

Chicken or the egg?

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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago

Manchester (he/him)

""I'm hitting you for your own good"

"I'm hitting you because I love you"

Doesn't that sound ridiculous?

At what other point in life is that acceptable? If I decided to hit a member of staff for dangerous practise, is that OK?

Those of you saying 'I was hit and it didn't do me any harm', actually it did, you remember it, it was traumatic and memorable for you, it changed your behaviour and memory indelibly. That's harm. if it changed the behaviour isnt that a good thing?"

How do you know that it's changed their behaviour for the better, what you've really taught them is that parents hit and to fear them, I don't want my children to fear me.

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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago

Manchester (he/him)

""I'm hitting you for your own good"

"I'm hitting you because I love you"

Doesn't that sound ridiculous?

At what other point in life is that acceptable? If I decided to hit a member of staff for dangerous practise, is that OK?

Those of you saying 'I was hit and it didn't do me any harm', actually it did, you remember it, it was traumatic and memorable for you, it changed your behaviour and memory indelibly. That's harm.

That's education"

I'd rather not go to your school then.

All you've taught them is fear.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

""I'm hitting you for your own good"

"I'm hitting you because I love you"

Doesn't that sound ridiculous?

At what other point in life is that acceptable? If I decided to hit a member of staff for dangerous practise, is that OK?

Those of you saying 'I was hit and it didn't do me any harm', actually it did, you remember it, it was traumatic and memorable for you, it changed your behaviour and memory indelibly. That's harm.

That's education

I'd rather not go to your school then.

All you've taught them is fear. "

Don’t forget the fear of London.

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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago

Manchester (he/him)

""I'm hitting you for your own good"

"I'm hitting you because I love you"

Doesn't that sound ridiculous?

At what other point in life is that acceptable? If I decided to hit a member of staff for dangerous practise, is that OK?

Those of you saying 'I was hit and it didn't do me any harm', actually it did, you remember it, it was traumatic and memorable for you, it changed your behaviour and memory indelibly. That's harm.

That's education

I'd rather not go to your school then.

All you've taught them is fear.

Don’t forget the fear of London.

Will I get smacked if I go to London? I know some people who will be booking a seat right now if that's the case

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

That fear is never forgotten..

Or forgiven..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Smack a child and you lose an emotional connection with the child. That's my experience that I had with my parents.

I never found a connection with them ever again or my siblings.

Hence Life ...

But what came first.

Chicken or the egg?"

Not relevant. Don't hit kids. Simple.

Kids need good parental guidance.

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By *layfullsamMan
over a year ago

Solihull

"Sweden made smacking kids illegal in the 1970's.

While only anecdotal, from our view it really hasn't done them any favours.

The house next door to us in Spain is Swedish owned and is regularly rented out to other Swedes.

Without exception when rented by a family with kids it is a nightmare.

Kids as young as 7/8/9 screaming at their parents. Not once or twice, but every day.

No wonder they gave us Greta.

About 40-50 country's have a similar law now about corporal punishment including Spain where you live and Germany.

I think you're really really unlucky to have this with Swedish kids as I love Sweden and visit regularly and I don't think I've ever seen the kind of child tantrums and strops that you see in the uk at supermarkets, shops etc regularly

Occasionally at the airport late at night where I guess tiredness is involved.

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By *s_bettyboopWoman
over a year ago

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Children have been smacked since caveman times and the children of Hester year have grown up better than the arrogant, cheeky brats of today, many of whom end up on drugs and a life of crime today.

The people passing these laws are plain stupid

I was reasoned with by voice control. I knew when my mum meant business. No need for a smack at all. "

My mom or dad only had to give me the look

and I knew.

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