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By *asmeen OP   TV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT

Be nice x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Il go with fan

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

you should have made this Fan or Fanny

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Il go with fan "
not sure ....May be fan

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Il go with fan not sure ....May be fan"

Fan

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fan.

Fan fan fan fan fan...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

not a fan

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By *ilth500Man
over a year ago

Merseyside

not a fan

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"not a fan"

Not my type

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And because,given the OP's injunction to "be nice" you'd think people would realise to wait until they saw a profile they liked and could say nice things about. That's rather the point, which I didn't think was THAT subtle but,maybe it was too subtle for some...

The men on this thread are not my type either,but they might be perfectly nice people! So I'll assume that and just not bother commenting on their profiles in the meantime. That way, nobody is made to feel bad...

...there's enough of that crap on this site as it is. Let's do better.

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By *affron40Woman
over a year ago

manchester


"And because,given the OP's injunction to "be nice" you'd think people would realise to wait until they saw a profile they liked and could say nice things about. That's rather the point, which I didn't think was THAT subtle but,maybe it was too subtle for some...

The men on this thread are not my type either,but they might be perfectly nice people! So I'll assume that and just not bother commenting on their profiles in the meantime. That way, nobody is made to feel bad...

...there's enough of that crap on this site as it is. Let's do better."

Fan

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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago

north of Peterborough

Yeah. She's OK. I'm a fan.

Of course I'm a fan.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"And because,given the OP's injunction to "be nice" you'd think people would realise to wait until they saw a profile they liked and could say nice things about. That's rather the point, which I didn't think was THAT subtle but,maybe it was too subtle for some...

The men on this thread are not my type either,but they might be perfectly nice people! So I'll assume that and just not bother commenting on their profiles in the meantime. That way, nobody is made to feel bad...

...there's enough of that crap on this site as it is. Let's do better.

Fan "

Thank you.

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By *asmeen OP   TV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT


"And because,given the OP's injunction to "be nice" you'd think people would realise to wait until they saw a profile they liked and could say nice things about. That's rather the point, which I didn't think was THAT subtle but,maybe it was too subtle for some...

The men on this thread are not my type either,but they might be perfectly nice people! So I'll assume that and just not bother commenting on their profiles in the meantime. That way, nobody is made to feel bad...

...there's enough of that crap on this site as it is. Let's do better."

Oooh Big Fan x

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By *irth.Minge.FireMan
over a year ago

Seen in far off places

Nah, not a fan

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By *unkym34Man
over a year ago

London

Not a fan sorry

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By *ollycouple71Couple
over a year ago

manchester

[Removed by poster at 02/10/19 20:18:50]

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By *owithflow321Man
over a year ago

Molesey

Fan x

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By *asmeen OP   TV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT

Fan x

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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago

north of Peterborough


"Fan x"

Another Fan here

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fan x

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By *irth.Minge.FireMan
over a year ago

Seen in far off places


"Fan x

Another Fan here "

I'm a fan of a chunky Kit Kat

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By *asmeen OP   TV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT


"Fan x

Another Fan here

I'm a fan of a chunky Kit Kat "

Not a Fan at all

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fan

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Fan "

Nit a fan... your cock scares me

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By *uzzy NavelWoman
over a year ago

so near and yet so far....


"Fan

Nit a fan... your cock scares me "

Fan

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By *asmeen OP   TV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT


"Fan

Nit a fan... your cock scares me "
Nit?

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By *rivateparts!Man
over a year ago

Walking down the only road I've ever known!

Fan

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By *nabelle21Woman
over a year ago

B38

woop woop fan x

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By *rivateparts!Man
over a year ago

Walking down the only road I've ever known!


"woop woop fan x"

Big fan

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By *elshmuzzyMan
over a year ago

Luton

Fan

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By *ollycouple71Couple
over a year ago

manchester

Not

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Not "

Fan xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Not

Fan xx"

Fan x

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By *irth.Minge.FireMan
over a year ago

Seen in far off places


"Not

Fan xx

Fan x "

A fan

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By *ovingeachotherCouple
over a year ago

Devizes

fan x

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By *unkym34Man
over a year ago

London


"Not

Fan xx

Fan x

A fan "
not a fan

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By *asmeen OP   TV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT


"Not

Fan xx

Fan x

A fan not a fan "

Not

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Not

Fan xx

Fan x

A fan not a fan

Not"

A fan - love your posts

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By *asmeen OP   TV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT


"Not

Fan xx

Fan x

A fan not a fan

Not

A fan - love your posts "

Fan xxxx

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By *unkym34Man
over a year ago

London


"Not

Fan xx

Fan x

A fan not a fan

Not

A fan - love your posts "
fan

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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago

north of Peterborough


"Not

Fan xx

Fan x

A fan not a fan

Not

A fan - love your posts "

Always a fan of this sexy couple.

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By *asmeen OP   TV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT


"Not

Fan xx

Fan x

A fan not a fan

Not

A fan - love your posts

Always a fan of this sexy couple. "

Yeah Fan x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fan definitely

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Def a fan xx

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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago

north of Peterborough


"Def a fan xx"

Got to be fan of a fellow manc.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

[Removed by poster at 02/10/19 21:12:06]

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hmmm fan

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By *eliciousladyWoman
over a year ago

Sometimes U.K


"Hmmm fan"

Sorry, not a fan

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By *unkym34Man
over a year ago

London


"Hmmm fan

Sorry, not a fan "
fan

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fan. Why not.

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By *asmeen OP   TV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT


"Hmmm fan"

Fan nice tie x

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By *r laidbackMan
over a year ago

London & New Brighton

[Removed by poster at 02/10/19 21:18:18]

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By *orraine999Woman
over a year ago

Somewhere

I don't know you but, you look nice.

Fan

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By *aven RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool


"I don't know you but, you look nice.

Fan"

Big fan, mwaaah x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fan xx

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By *rivateparts!Man
over a year ago

Walking down the only road I've ever known!


"I don't know you but, you look nice.

Fan

Big fan, mwaaah x"

Very much so a fan x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don't know you but, you look nice.

Fan

Big fan, mwaaah x

Very much so a fan x"

Fab

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By *orraine999Woman
over a year ago

Somewhere


"I don't know you but, you look nice.

Fan

Big fan, mwaaah x"

Mwah...

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By *r laidbackMan
over a year ago

London & New Brighton

Why does it always change person and when you see who it is your thinking , whatttt have it done, not you, that was meant for him lol

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By *tella HeelsTV/TS
over a year ago

west here ford shire

Fab fan

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fan x

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By *oldyoudown41Man
over a year ago

Oxfordshire

We’re all fans here

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman
over a year ago

On a mooch


"We’re all fans here "

Fan

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We’re all fans here

Fan "

Fan

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By *ollycouple71Couple
over a year ago

manchester

Not

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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago

north of Peterborough


"Not "

More mancs. Another Fan.

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By *tella HeelsTV/TS
over a year ago

west here ford shire

Fab ny

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By *elshmuzzyMan
over a year ago

Luton

Fan

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By *ollycouple71Couple
over a year ago

manchester


"Not

More mancs. Another Fan. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Buxom Blonde...gotta be a fan

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Buxom Blonde...gotta be a fan"

No public cock pics so a fan!

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By *all_Bearded_And_IrishMan
over a year ago

Essex

Definitely a fan

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fan

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By *parkle1974Woman
over a year ago

Leeds

Fan

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By *izzymonkeyMan
over a year ago

Hiding In A Bush

Fan....they offer me cake...

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By *ilth500Man
over a year ago

Merseyside

[Removed by poster at 02/10/19 22:39:34]

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By *ucky88oMan
over a year ago

london


"Fan"

Not sure as im blocked lol

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By *parkle1974Woman
over a year ago

Leeds


"Fan....they offer me cake... "

Shhh that's supposed to be a secret

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fan

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Fan "

Sorry.. not

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Fan

Sorry.. not"

Don’t be sorry, the feeling is mutual haha...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Too young for me sorry so it's a not

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By *ookie46Woman
over a year ago

Deepest darkest Peru

Fan

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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago

north of Peterborough


"Fan "

Fan. All day long xxxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Fan

Fan. All day long xxxx"

Fan of the resident goofy nice guy with the self deprecating sense of humour.

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By *aven RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool

Fan x

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By *assing Fancies xCouple
over a year ago

Sherwood Forest


"Fan x"
fan

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Fan x fan "

Definite fan

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By *orraine999Woman
over a year ago

Somewhere

You look nice. Fan

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You look nice. Fan"
fan

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You look nice. Fan"
im a fan Lorraine x

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By *orraine999Woman
over a year ago

Somewhere

Fan....Hello Jack

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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago

north of Peterborough


"Fan....Hello Jack"

Fannnnn. Mmmm

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By *orksbiguyMan
over a year ago

Bradford

not a fan sorry

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Strange cock. Sorry not a fan

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By *asmeen OP   TV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT

Fan

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Fan"

Fan

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By *orksbiguyMan
over a year ago

Bradford

fan

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Strange cock. Sorry not a fan"

What he said.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Strange cock. Sorry not a fan

What he said....."

Fan

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By *asmeen OP   TV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT

Fan

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By * Star FilthMan
over a year ago

staplehurst


"Strange cock. Sorry not a fan

What he said.....

Fan"

Fan

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Strange cock. Sorry not a fan

What he said.....

Fan"

Always a fan of batcock

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Fan

Fan "

Def fan. Lovely pictures.

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By *asmeen OP   TV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT


"Strange cock. Sorry not a fan

What he said.....

Fan

Always a fan of batcock "
batcock?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Strange cock. Sorry not a fan

What he said.....

Fan

Always a fan of batcock batcock?"

Check their picks! Xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Strange cock. Sorry not a fan

What he said.....

Fan

Always a fan of batcock batcock?

Check their picks! Xx"

Fan

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Strange cock. Sorry not a fan

What he said.....

Fan

Always a fan of batcock batcock?"

Oh and FAN!

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By *asmeen OP   TV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT


"Strange cock. Sorry not a fan

What he said.....

Fan

Always a fan of batcock batcock?

Oh and FAN! "

Big Fan

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not ... sorry!

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"Strange cock. Sorry not a fan

What he said.....

Fan

Always a fan of batcock batcock?

Oh and FAN!

Big Fan "

Oh fan

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By *asmeen OP   TV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT


"Strange cock. Sorry not a fan

What he said.....

Fan

Always a fan of batcock batcock?

Oh and FAN!

Big Fan

Oh fan"

Fan x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fan

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By *irlintheRedRed dressWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow

Not

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"Not"

Can't see

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fan

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By *owithflow321Man
over a year ago

Molesey


"Fan"

FAN

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fan

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"Fan"

Fan

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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago

north of Peterborough


"Fan

Fan "

Fan of both above

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By *all_Bearded_And_IrishMan
over a year ago

Essex

[Removed by poster at 03/10/19 00:16:10]

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not a fan

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not a fan but that’s based on age difference xx

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By *itty9899Man
over a year ago

Craggy Island


"Not a fan but that’s based on age difference xx "

Where's my autograph book.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fan

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"Fan

Fan

Fan of both above "

Fan of you too

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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago

north of Peterborough

[Removed by poster at 03/10/19 00:20:35]

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By *arl17Man
over a year ago

Central Portugal

Fan

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By *isaAndNicoleTransTV/TS
over a year ago

Southport / Ellesmere Port

Fan

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Fan"
nice couple fan

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Not a fan but that’s based on age difference xx

Where's my autograph book.

"

??

I’m confused haha

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By *all_Bearded_And_IrishMan
over a year ago

Essex

Fan of sexy chica

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Fan of sexy chica "

I’m a fan of you too x

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By *ucky88oMan
over a year ago

london


"Fan of sexy chica

I’m a fan of you too x"

A fan and would love to get to know better x

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By *itty9899Man
over a year ago

Craggy Island


"Not a fan but that’s based on age difference xx

Where's my autograph book.

??

I’m confused haha "

I'm a fan

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"Not a fan but that’s based on age difference xx

Where's my autograph book.

??

I’m confused haha

I'm a fan "

Fan

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By *itty9899Man
over a year ago

Craggy Island


"Not a fan but that’s based on age difference xx

Where's my autograph book.

??

I’m confused haha

I'm a fan

Fan "

Good to know I have at least one.

Fan of yours too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Not a fan but that’s based on age difference xx

Where's my autograph book.

??

I’m confused haha

I'm a fan "

Ohh I get it now... ignore me, it’s late and my brain has gone to mush!

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By *inchpandaMan
over a year ago

Hong Kong

Fan

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By *orraine999Woman
over a year ago

Somewhere


"Not ... sorry!"

Fan

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"Not a fan but that’s based on age difference xx

Where's my autograph book.

??

I’m confused haha

I'm a fan

Fan

Good to know I have at least one.

Fan of yours too."

I'm sure you have more

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"Not ... sorry!

Fan "

Fan

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By *itty9899Man
over a year ago

Craggy Island


"Not a fan but that’s based on age difference xx

Where's my autograph book.

??

I’m confused haha

I'm a fan

Fan

Good to know I have at least one.

Fan of yours too.

I'm sure you have more

"

Thanks

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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago

north of Peterborough


"Not ... sorry!

Fan "

Who couldn't be a fan of yours?

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By *itty9899Man
over a year ago

Craggy Island


"Not a fan but that’s based on age difference xx

Where's my autograph book.

??

I’m confused haha

I'm a fan

Ohh I get it now... ignore me, it’s late and my brain has gone to mush! "

That quite alright, besides I could never ignore you, your GORGEOUS!

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"Not a fan but that’s based on age difference xx

Where's my autograph book.

??

I’m confused haha

I'm a fan

Fan

Good to know I have at least one.

Fan of yours too.

I'm sure you have more

Thanks "

You're welcome

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By *ovingeachotherCouple
over a year ago

Devizes

fan x

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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago

north of Peterborough


"fan x"

Xx fan xx

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"fan x"

Fan

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fan

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By *all_Bearded_And_IrishMan
over a year ago

Essex

Fan of Samiss x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Seems a bit mean, tbh

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By *ungStud4U83Man
over a year ago

n/a


"Seems a bit mean, tbh"
I would say fan but gonna have to say no as every picture is of your dick..sorry mate

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Not a fan but that’s based on age difference xx "

Fan xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nope need women haha

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Nope need women haha"

No profile pic so potential serial killer. Nope from me

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By *ear and pudCouple
over a year ago

Peterborough


"Nope need women haha"

Not a fan

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Nope need women haha

Not a fan"

Massive fan, but purely based on the red French knickers

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By *athan7392Man
over a year ago

Bristol

Not a fan. Straight

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By *orraine999Woman
over a year ago

Somewhere

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Big fan

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By *orraine999Woman
over a year ago

Somewhere

Not a fan....Sorry, too young.

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By *athan7392Man
over a year ago

Bristol


"[Removed by poster at 03/10/19 02:31:53]"

Fan

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By *ungStud4U83Man
over a year ago

n/a


"Not a fan....Sorry, too young."

Always been a huge fan

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Not a fan....Sorry, too young.

Always been a huge fan"

Not a fan. Black shirt and red tie. Jeepers

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By *urls and DressesWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere near here

Fan, that beard

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fan

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By *rkrisssMan
over a year ago

Berkshire

Not fan, Liverpool beat us in the champions league final!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fan us guys need all the suport we can get lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Fan, that beard "

Fan. Of everything about you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Hmmm fan

Fan nice tie x"

Fan nice legs

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By *bsolutebeginnersCouple
over a year ago

Planet Ork

Not particularly a fan.

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By *nabelle21Woman
over a year ago

B38


"Not particularly a fan."

I haven't seen much of you...I am a fan in the making

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By *rivateparts!Man
over a year ago

Walking down the only road I've ever known!


"Not particularly a fan.

I haven't seen much of you...I am a fan in the making "

You know

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By *unkym34Man
over a year ago

London


"Not particularly a fan.

I haven't seen much of you...I am a fan in the making

You know "
not a fan sorry

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