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"I’m not attracted to bad boys, I don’t appreciate selfishness and I don’t think good guys come last so I can’t really help I’m afraid " | |||
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"I’m not attracted to bad boys, I don’t appreciate selfishness and I don’t think good guys come last so I can’t really help I’m afraid " | |||
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"Ugh this thread again ‘Nice guys’ don’t come last I also find that those men who label themselves a nice guy, tend not to be. " Exactly what I was going to say. Guys that complain about nice guys coming last are usually the worst, and the "bad boys" that they complain about are much nicer. | |||
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"Always curious why ladies are so attracted to bad boys,selfish boys, where nice guys come last. Is it a subconscious primal response? Where these qualities are indication that they have more spirit and fight? Where not matter how toxic the pairing relationship that they will still provide for what is important to them .This in shape of off spring and themself no matter what and they will have little regard to how they do it . Equally sex being very emotional and with a element of aggression and assertiveness . Its "easier" to fuck when angry or frustrated ie with that bad bad boys behaviour. Therefore even to the female may hate that guy they just can,t help themselves..and is just a thrill.and exciting each timex. Almost like a outlet ...a temporary holiday for the the mind from the toxic norm . Something they instinctively know they know they would not get with the " mundane " boring lovey dovey emotionless nice day. Though being such a nice guy it would that much harder to leave move on from should a better opportunity come along . Could go on ,but I think I,ve bored you enough... " Inaccurate premise. Also just because you've come last doesn't mean you're a good guy. Could just be a slow wanker. | |||
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"Self proclaimed ‘nice guys’ are usually anything but and not all actual nice guys are boring" Oh no. Some nice guys are incredible and I don't buy into any of this crap. But some guys who claim to be nice just have a facade of manners, and not a lot else, including hobbies, passions, things we can have in common... | |||
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"Always curious why ladies are so attracted to bad boys,selfish boys, where nice guys come last. Is it a subconscious primal response? Where these qualities are indication that they have more spirit and fight? Where not matter how toxic the pairing relationship that they will still provide for what is important to them .This in shape of off spring and themself no matter what and they will have little regard to how they do it . Equally sex being very emotional and with a element of aggression and assertiveness . Its "easier" to fuck when angry or frustrated ie with that bad bad boys behaviour. Therefore even to the female may hate that guy they just can,t help themselves..and is just a thrill.and exciting each timex. Almost like a outlet ...a temporary holiday for the the mind from the toxic norm . Something they instinctively know they know they would not get with the " mundane " boring lovey dovey emotionless nice day. Though being such a nice guy it would that much harder to leave move on from should a better opportunity come along . Could go on ,but I think I,ve bored you enough... " Speaking from experience as a bad boy turned good, in my experience I have been more successful with women after I dropped the bad boy stuff. Another plus side is I spend much less time in prison lol | |||
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"Always curious why ladies are so attracted to bad boys,selfish boys, where nice guys come last. Is it a subconscious primal response? Where these qualities are indication that they have more spirit and fight? Where not matter how toxic the pairing relationship that they will still provide for what is important to them .This in shape of off spring and themself no matter what and they will have little regard to how they do it . Equally sex being very emotional and with a element of aggression and assertiveness . Its "easier" to fuck when angry or frustrated ie with that bad bad boys behaviour. Therefore even to the female may hate that guy they just can,t help themselves..and is just a thrill.and exciting each timex. Almost like a outlet ...a temporary holiday for the the mind from the toxic norm . Something they instinctively know they know they would not get with the " mundane " boring lovey dovey emotionless nice day. Though being such a nice guy it would that much harder to leave move on from should a better opportunity come along . Could go on ,but I think I,ve bored you enough... Speaking from experience as a bad boy turned good, in my experience I have been more successful with women after I dropped the bad boy stuff. Another plus side is I spend much less time in prison lol" win, win | |||
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"Always curious why ladies are so attracted to bad boys,selfish boys, where nice guys come last. Is it a subconscious primal response? Where these qualities are indication that they have more spirit and fight? Where not matter how toxic the pairing relationship that they will still provide for what is important to them .This in shape of off spring and themself no matter what and they will have little regard to how they do it . Equally sex being very emotional and with a element of aggression and assertiveness . Its "easier" to fuck when angry or frustrated ie with that bad bad boys behaviour. Therefore even to the female may hate that guy they just can,t help themselves..and is just a thrill.and exciting each timex. Almost like a outlet ...a temporary holiday for the the mind from the toxic norm . Something they instinctively know they know they would not get with the " mundane " boring lovey dovey emotionless nice day. Though being such a nice guy it would that much harder to leave move on from should a better opportunity come along . Could go on ,but I think I,ve bored you enough... " That's quite a sweeping generalisation you've made there OP! Some women will be attracted to "bad boys", some will be attracted to "nice guys", and the whole spectrum in between... Cos different people are attracted to different things. If you mean "somebody told me I'm too nice so that must be why I'm not getting any" that's a whole different thing, no? Mrs TMN x | |||
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"I think when men start thinking they know what women want without actually asking the individual (and vice versa) is when they get it wrong. " I wish I could convey my response properly. When church finished as a child, we'd sing "amen" a number of times, slowly, to close the service as the minister went to the rear of the church to greet people leaving. That's the amount of amen I feel about this. | |||
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"I think when men start thinking they know what women want without actually asking the individual (and vice versa) is when they get it wrong. " Absolutely agree. We are not all the same. | |||
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"“Nice guys” don’t need to say they’re nice guys, firstly. Those who do that usually aren’t nice. Truly nice guys don’t finish last either. I can’t speak for any other woman but I certainly don’t go for “bad boys”, I go for men in attracted to who have nice personalities. Maybe the issue isn’t the women?" Maybe the issue is the ‘nice’ men | |||
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"“Nice guys” don’t need to say they’re nice guys, firstly. Those who do that usually aren’t nice. Truly nice guys don’t finish last either. I can’t speak for any other woman but I certainly don’t go for “bad boys”, I go for men in attracted to who have nice personalities. Maybe the issue isn’t the women? Maybe the issue is the ‘nice’ men " Yup! | |||
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"From my experience most women want men to be "men". When I say "men" I mean someone confident and self assured, who has goals to strive for and a sense of direction in their life. Someone who knows what they want and doesn't play mind games. Someone who's kind, respectful but will have that naughty streak and the right dose of mischief to keep things exciting, interesting and unexpected." Exactly this | |||
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"From my experience most women want men to be "men". When I say "men" I mean someone confident and self assured, who has goals to strive for and a sense of direction in their life. Someone who knows what they want and doesn't play mind games. Someone who's kind, respectful but will have that naughty streak and the right dose of mischief to keep things exciting, interesting and unexpected." Couldn't have put it better - the notion of "bad boys/nice guys" is frankly a ridiculous one - people are attracted to all sorts of things and types so the OP is a sweeping generalisation at best. If you're true to yourself, honest, considerate and respectful that is *all* that should matter. Too many focus on what they *think* others want rather than the way they act themselves | |||
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"“Nice guys” don’t need to say they’re nice guys, firstly. Those who do that usually aren’t nice. Truly nice guys don’t finish last either. I can’t speak for any other woman but I certainly don’t go for “bad boys”, I go for men in attracted to who have nice personalities. Maybe the issue isn’t the women? Maybe the issue is the ‘nice’ men " It's not the women's fault? Say it ain't so! | |||
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"I have literally never been into "bad" guys in terms of assholes. I'm also not into "nice" guys. I'm into interesting, articulate, passionate, empathetic, generous men who have interesting hobbies or interests and I can have a stimulating conversation with. If nice is your defining feature I think you're falling a bit short. Nice is the bare minimum. What a lot of men seem to mean when they say bad guys in actually guys who seem tough. Bikers, boxers, men who seem assertive in public, etc. Alone with a woman they are often (not always but often) big teddy bears though. The real bad guys are abusive, controlling assholes and nobody likes them. Under the surface they are petulant, entitled, insecure children. They often draw you in with hell of a lot of faked niceness though." | |||
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"Bad boys are usually good at pleasing a woman sexually. Sadly that’s pretty much all they are good at, but that’s because they know it’s all they need. Along with a charming exterior. Good guys can be great, but often very boring in bed and not much fun or excitement. Add to that a lot of women crave constant reassurance of their attractiveness and it’s not that hard to see why they prefer a bad boy. Of course they probably don’t realise how bad he is until it’s too late. " This, sadly they can see a vulnerable female and pounce.,, | |||
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"I have literally never been into "bad" guys in terms of assholes. I'm also not into "nice" guys. I'm into interesting, articulate, passionate, empathetic, generous men who have interesting hobbies or interests and I can have a stimulating conversation with. If nice is your defining feature I think you're falling a bit short. Nice is the bare minimum. What a lot of men seem to mean when they say bad guys in actually guys who seem tough. Bikers, boxers, men who seem assertive in public, etc. Alone with a woman they are often (not always but often) big teddy bears though. The real bad guys are abusive, controlling assholes and nobody likes them. Under the surface they are petulant, entitled, insecure children. They often draw you in with hell of a lot of faked niceness though." The Narcassist | |||
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"I have literally never been into "bad" guys in terms of assholes. I'm also not into "nice" guys. I'm into interesting, articulate, passionate, empathetic, generous men who have interesting hobbies or interests and I can have a stimulating conversation with. If nice is your defining feature I think you're falling a bit short. Nice is the bare minimum. What a lot of men seem to mean when they say bad guys in actually guys who seem tough. Bikers, boxers, men who seem assertive in public, etc. Alone with a woman they are often (not always but often) big teddy bears though. The real bad guys are abusive, controlling assholes and nobody likes them. Under the surface they are petulant, entitled, insecure children. They often draw you in with hell of a lot of faked niceness though." This rings very true! Mrs TMN x | |||
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"Bad boys are usually good at pleasing a woman sexually. Sadly that’s pretty much all they are good at, but that’s because they know it’s all they need. Along with a charming exterior. Good guys can be great, but often very boring in bed and not much fun or excitement. Add to that a lot of women crave constant reassurance of their attractiveness and it’s not that hard to see why they prefer a bad boy. Of course they probably don’t realise how bad he is until it’s too late. Her majesty is right though, guys that tell you they are a good guy and moan about women preferring bad boys are usually the worst!! " | |||
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"Had experience of this outside of fab. Was in a relationship for a year that she ended because I was "too nice". She went with a Guy who I've know for years who's a d*unk and takes drugs because (her words) she "wanted that excitement" of a bad boy. May sound shallow of me but happy to say I was proved right telling her it was a mistake, she felt she could change him (which kinda negates the wanting a bad boy thing). Wasn't happy how it ended for her though as he turned violent one night stoned and pissed. She was lucky and got out without being hurt, but did leave me thinking why someone would willingly put themselves in harms way? " | |||
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"Ugh this thread again ‘Nice guys’ don’t come last I also find that those men who label themselves a nice guy, tend not to be. Exactly what I was going to say. Guys that complain about nice guys coming last are usually the worst, and the "bad boys" that they complain about are much nicer." really ?? Bit harsh... | |||
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"Ugh this thread again ‘Nice guys’ don’t come last I also find that those men who label themselves a nice guy, tend not to be. Exactly what I was going to say. Guys that complain about nice guys coming last are usually the worst, and the "bad boys" that they complain about are much nicer. really ?? Bit harsh..." I don’t think it was harsh. She’s absolutely right. | |||
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"Ugh this thread again ‘Nice guys’ don’t come last " Ya... ok.... | |||
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