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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

I saw her speech and she was right but something troubled me about her.. any comments ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Funny you should say that as I felt the same but can't put my finger on why I feel that way.

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By *osmicRobMan
over a year ago

Chorlton cum Hardy

what is it that troubled you?

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By *irthandgirthMan
over a year ago

Camberley occasionally doncaster

The fact she is like a brainwashed puppet? A lot of the things she does are only eco on the surface? Her green trip across the Atlantic was offset by the fact that the crew had to fly to bring it back..

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By *ebjonnsonMan
over a year ago

Maldon

Her age. I worry that she is being used / manipulated.

Someone also suggested she is autistic?

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By *ulfilthmentMan
over a year ago

Just around the corner

The world isn’t ready to be told what to do by children. Even if they’re right.

I think she’s sincere, but is being manipulated by some of her entourage.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It all seemed a bit fake and aggressive. It didn't feel genuine.

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By *evil_u_knowMan
over a year ago

city

It's a "plea to emotion” by a child. All please to emotional are supposed to be instantly dismissed in a debate. You're supposed to instantly lose a debate by using them.

The Simpsons used to make fun of it, the "think of the children” being shouted out as they acted upon emotion to do something crazy.

You probably feel off about the whole thing because on one of the biggest political stages, instead of coldly presenting hard facts,they wheel out a child to plea for our emotions.

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By *ed-monkeyCouple
over a year ago

Hailsham

I do think some things are done as a stunt though, like sailing the Atlantic to address the UN.

Anyone else see the irony that the people who had to bring the boat back had to fly to New York?

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By *radleywigginsMan
over a year ago

northwest

#analsexonly

Saw it on a flyer this weekend and I believe it’s true

Stop whinging on about car journeys and air travel. The only way to save the planet is stop population increase.

Sadly the bleeding heart liberals aren’t prepared to accept that the biggest damage they will ever to do the planet is having a kid.

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity

If she gets Governments to listen and act , then I dont care about her reasons or motives.

Somebody needed to do it , yes the fact she is a child helps, but so what, she is passionate about her beliefs , that's all

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

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"#analsexonly

Saw it on a flyer this weekend and I believe it’s true

Stop whinging on about car journeys and air travel. The only way to save the planet is stop population increase.

Sadly the bleeding heart liberals aren’t prepared to accept that the biggest damage they will ever to do the planet is having a kid."

That is sad !!

But True

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well she has Asperger for a start. Her intentions are well meant, but I wasn’t comfortable watching that speech. She is being pushed blatantly, which is worrying, and fear she will be pushed too far. After researching her parents I’m not at all surprised.

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By *evil_u_knowMan
over a year ago

city


"If she gets Governments to listen and act , then I dont care about her reasons or motives.

Somebody needed to do it , yes the fact she is a child helps, but so what, she is passionate about her beliefs , that's all "

People like you are how the uk ended up in Iraq, just ramp up the fear level, play on emotions, and not a single fav given, and you're at war.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Despite what she is blaming on others, her childhood has been stolen by what she has been doing for the past few years. Actually I find her bloody annoying.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Well she has Asperger for a start. Her intentions are well meant, but I wasn’t comfortable watching that speech. She is being pushed blatantly, which is worrying, and fear she will be pushed too far. After researching her parents I’m not at all surprised. "

Yes that's what I felt, uncomfortable.

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity


"If she gets Governments to listen and act , then I dont care about her reasons or motives.

Somebody needed to do it , yes the fact she is a child helps, but so what, she is passionate about her beliefs , that's all

People like you are how the uk ended up in Iraq, just ramp up the fear level, play on emotions, and not a single fav given, and you're at war."

Huh , wtf ??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The children would be better off turning up for lessons, getting qualifications, becoming engineers and scientists and inventing ways to reverse climate change.

I found it ironic that as she gave her speech, on a big stage, with massive screens and a sound system, with the worlds media focussing in, and everyone watching on their devices... How much carbon was produced powering all that?

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

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"The children would be better off turning up for lessons, getting qualifications, becoming engineers and scientists and inventing ways to reverse climate change.

I found it ironic that as she gave her speech, on a big stage, with massive screens and a sound system, with the worlds media focussing in, and everyone watching on their devices... How much carbon was produced powering all that?"

How else is she supposed to do it, two cups and a piece of string and hope the Donald is on the other end ??

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By *evil_u_knowMan
over a year ago

city


"Huh , wtf ??"

Greenpeace said that they didn't need to prove global warming was happening in order to start acting. It was a move that would be political suicide for other parties.

They ramped up media coverage and started appeals to emotion and people ate it up.

Later bush used the same tactic to go to war with Iraq, said he didn't need proof, that the threat was enough. People ate it up.

People who accept appeals to emotion are the reason the UK ended up in Iraq and Afghanistan. You might think it's needed, and it's cool when it's making you gains in what you want, but it's a fucking awful tactic that leads to people being murdered for nothing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nice to see youngsters on strike from school on a climate march , drinking & having a Mc Donald’s . Just an observation

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

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"Huh , wtf ??

Greenpeace said that they didn't need to prove global warming was happening in order to start acting. It was a move that would be political suicide for other parties.

They ramped up media coverage and started appeals to emotion and people ate it up.

Later bush used the same tactic to go to war with Iraq, said he didn't need proof, that the threat was enough. People ate it up.

People who accept appeals to emotion are the reason the UK ended up in Iraq and Afghanistan. You might think it's needed, and it's cool when it's making you gains in what you want, but it's a fucking awful tactic that leads to people being murdered for nothing.

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But shes not playing on emotions, shes just passionate about what shes doing , and always backs up what she says with hard facts . Theres no time to pussyfoot around the issue any more . And yes I am using a phone to type this I know !!

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By *m389Man
over a year ago

Magherafelt

Nothing will happen despite her best intentions.

People want something done but expect others to do it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm not biting on this thread.... .....much.....

(I do think it's creepy af though, not just that she's being used, but all the ppl around her and the ppl for and against and arguing over a small child who knows pretty much fuck all about life or the planet . Funny how ppl will listen to a child who knows nothing but an expert with a lifetime of experience and qualifications is somehow viewed as crooked, bent or not to be trusted. So adult ppl have to use a child as a megaphone these days. I also find it cringy that they didn't choose a small boy to be the lead figure. Dog whistle psychology at its best but people who want to believe always will. I just think ppl should stop shouting and start listening, talking and learning, on a lot of today's issues.....)

Peace to you all....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have nothing against her personally BUT I absolutely hate the movement that’s behind her and I have zero respect for her opinion.

She’s a puppet being used by someone (no idea who). And I really dislike this phoney hero worship of her.

She’s 16. She doesn’t know anything other than what’s been fed to her. She doesn’t do anything other than moan. There’s nothing productive, proactive or positive about her movement.

It’s a bizarre moment in time.

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By *rwhowhatwherewhyMan
over a year ago

Aylesbury

We are fucked anyway so what's the point of doing anything. We are better off having climate change finish us off so it can heal again.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm not biting on this thread.... .....much.....

(I do think it's creepy af though, not just that she's being used, but all the ppl around her and the ppl for and against and arguing over a small child who knows pretty much fuck all about life or the planet . Funny how ppl will listen to a child who knows nothing but an expert with a lifetime of experience and qualifications is somehow viewed as crooked, bent or not to be trusted. So adult ppl have to use a child as a megaphone these days. I also find it cringy that they didn't choose a small boy to be the lead figure. Dog whistle psychology at its best but people who want to believe always will. I just think ppl should stop shouting and start listening, talking and learning, on a lot of today's issues.....)

Peace to you all.... "

My thoughts too

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The full speech was passionate, inspiring and thought provoking. She is enthusing the current generation of young people to become fully engaged about climate and environment. This will be the next generation going into industry and making changes and these will be the people who might just right now cause their parents (the current mainstay of industry) to rethink their outdated attitudes to the environment. I see the effect first hand as my industry is just on the cusp of a revolution in packaging, not because it will make more money (profits will go down) but because the younger generation will drive it through changes to their shopping habits.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The only way to end this demise is by a mass global population cut anyway. Either nature will find a way to do this or if not we must act ourselves. First things first would be to sterilise every convict globally, then introduce a global one child system for the next 25years. Finally any convicted child killer or child rapist should be shot to death, globally.

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By *rwhowhatwherewhyMan
over a year ago

Aylesbury


"The only way to end this demise is by a mass global population cut anyway. Either nature will find a way to do this or if not we must act ourselves. First things first would be to sterilise every convict globally, then introduce a global one child system for the next 25years. Finally any convicted child killer or child rapist should be shot to death, globally. "

Does that include rich persons white collar crime? Why does a child hold more weight than anybody else? What if it later came out that they were innocent of all charges?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

She’s a pawn. I can’t abide the politicos and glitterati who are giving her a stage. What does a teenager know about life. Why she is being taken seriously is beyond me !

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

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"The only way to end this demise is by a mass global population cut anyway. Either nature will find a way to do this or if not we must act ourselves. First things first would be to sterilise every convict globally, then introduce a global one child system for the next 25years. Finally any convicted child killer or child rapist should be shot to death, globally. "

Rather Drastic

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity


"She’s a pawn. I can’t abide the politicos and glitterati who are giving her a stage. What does a teenager know about life. Why she is being taken seriously is beyond me !"
So what would your answer be ?? Just asking ??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The only way to end this demise is by a mass global population cut anyway. Either nature will find a way to do this or if not we must act ourselves. First things first would be to sterilise every convict globally, then introduce a global one child system for the next 25years. Finally any convicted child killer or child rapist should be shot to death, globally.

Does that include rich persons white collar crime? Why does a child hold more weight than anybody else? What if it later came out that they were innocent of all charges?"

okay let me rephrase, if you’ve been found guilty of a crime, no matter how petty, then yes you will be sterilised on admission to a prison. It’s eco friendly and a deterrent. I also believe anyone found purposely throwing litter should be imprisoned for 30 days in a work camp. Especially young men trying to impress girls at McDonald’s car parks.

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

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"The only way to end this demise is by a mass global population cut anyway. Either nature will find a way to do this or if not we must act ourselves. First things first would be to sterilise every convict globally, then introduce a global one child system for the next 25years. Finally any convicted child killer or child rapist should be shot to death, globally.

Does that include rich persons white collar crime? Why does a child hold more weight than anybody else? What if it later came out that they were innocent of all charges? okay let me rephrase, if you’ve been found guilty of a crime, no matter how petty, then yes you will be sterilised on admission to a prison. It’s eco friendly and a deterrent. I also believe anyone found purposely throwing litter should be imprisoned for 30 days in a work camp. Especially young men trying to impress girls at McDonald’s car parks. "

Brilliant

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East


"I saw her speech and she was right but something troubled me about her.. any comments ?"

In a world where leaders act like children and children act like leaders, there is a lot to be troubled about.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

shes being used as a political stunt, a tool on the propaganda treadmill.

I support her message, but hate seeing children used in such a way.

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool


"The only way to end this demise is by a mass global population cut anyway. Either nature will find a way to do this or if not we must act ourselves. First things first would be to sterilise every convict globally, then introduce a global one child system for the next 25years. Finally any convicted child killer or child rapist should be shot to death, globally. "

Honestly the birth rate is already drastically lower in my generation as we either don't want children or can't afford them but all we ever get is hate over it in the media.

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By *rwhowhatwherewhyMan
over a year ago

Aylesbury


"The only way to end this demise is by a mass global population cut anyway. Either nature will find a way to do this or if not we must act ourselves. First things first would be to sterilise every convict globally, then introduce a global one child system for the next 25years. Finally any convicted child killer or child rapist should be shot to death, globally.

Honestly the birth rate is already drastically lower in my generation as we either don't want children or can't afford them but all we ever get is hate over it in the media."

In the west maybe, but not the world as a whole.

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By *evil_u_knowMan
over a year ago

city


"The full speech was passionate, inspiring and thought provoking. She is enthusing the current generation of young people to become fully engaged about climate and environment. This will be the next generation going into industry and making changes and these will be the people who might just right now cause their parents (the current mainstay of industry) to rethink their outdated attitudes to the environment. I see the effect first hand as my industry is just on the cusp of a revolution in packaging, not because it will make more money (profits will go down) but because the younger generation will drive it through changes to their shopping habits. "

How is that going to help climate change?

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By *rwhowhatwherewhyMan
over a year ago

Aylesbury

Ditching capitalism might go some way into dealing with it. Perpetual growth cant be good for the environment can it?

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity


"The full speech was passionate, inspiring and thought provoking. She is enthusing the current generation of young people to become fully engaged about climate and environment. This will be the next generation going into industry and making changes and these will be the people who might just right now cause their parents (the current mainstay of industry) to rethink their outdated attitudes to the environment. I see the effect first hand as my industry is just on the cusp of a revolution in packaging, not because it will make more money (profits will go down) but because the younger generation will drive it through changes to their shopping habits.

How is that going to help climate change?"

In itself , not a lot , but I think he means the general message is getting through and some companies are taking heed and changing their ways.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Don't believe the hype....same as who is actually behind this extinction rebellion,looks good on the surface,feel sorry for the girl,she's definatly being used

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The full speech was passionate, inspiring and thought provoking. She is enthusing the current generation of young people to become fully engaged about climate and environment. This will be the next generation going into industry and making changes and these will be the people who might just right now cause their parents (the current mainstay of industry) to rethink their outdated attitudes to the environment. I see the effect first hand as my industry is just on the cusp of a revolution in packaging, not because it will make more money (profits will go down) but because the younger generation will drive it through changes to their shopping habits.

How is that going to help climate change? In itself , not a lot , but I think he means the general message is getting through and some companies are taking heed and changing their ways. "

Yes that is what I meant. Do I think anybody sitting the room in front of her in the UN will make any changes directly - tiny changes maybe but nothing more. Her audience wasn't the UN but the wider world. Do I think the current enthused younger generation will change things through their spending power and the effect of them entering industry over the next 10 years, yes massively. Do I think they will change government policy through their voting power in the next 5 years, yes I do. But it is just my opinion.

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

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"The full speech was passionate, inspiring and thought provoking. She is enthusing the current generation of young people to become fully engaged about climate and environment. This will be the next generation going into industry and making changes and these will be the people who might just right now cause their parents (the current mainstay of industry) to rethink their outdated attitudes to the environment. I see the effect first hand as my industry is just on the cusp of a revolution in packaging, not because it will make more money (profits will go down) but because the younger generation will drive it through changes to their shopping habits.

How is that going to help climate change? In itself , not a lot , but I think he means the general message is getting through and some companies are taking heed and changing their ways.

Yes that is what I meant. Do I think anybody sitting the room in front of her in the UN will make any changes directly - tiny changes maybe but nothing more. Her audience wasn't the UN but the wider world. Do I think the current enthused younger generation will change things through their spending power and the effect of them entering industry over the next 10 years, yes massively. Do I think they will change government policy through their voting power in the next 5 years, yes I do. But it is just my opinion."

I agree

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can you see what I mean though...????? Even with most of your forum replies, most of you just shout at each other with a rigid opinion. You're fixed and inflexible, you'd rather die right (in your mind) than live and love in compromise..... It's dead sad tbh

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

1. She has convinced kids all over the world to do their bit by throwing away their smart phones, give up their annual holidays abroad, not buying unnecessary new clothes and walking to school rather than have their parents drive them everywhere.

2. The solutions that she, and the other children have come up with are nothing short of miraculous.

3. Neither 1. or 2. above are remotely true.

Personally, I think she's being mentally abused by her parents and those around her. Some sort of child services really should investigate this, but none will probably have the courage.

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By *anThomasMan
over a year ago

Manchester/Salford

She made an emotional plea to leaders that they follow the science, which is quite different to your saying her argument was based on emotion.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"She made an emotional plea to leaders that they follow the science, which is quite different to your saying her argument was based on emotion."

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

She used emotive words and actions to get her point across. It's a technique used to great effect by Churchill.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If people want to know how to save the planet and change the world they’re best off listening to scientists... more specifically, physicists. People like Michio Kaku have already proposed hundreds of ways that we can create clean energy and a sustainable lifestyle - and he hasn’t even done it because he cares about climate change. He doesn’t give a fuck about that - these scientists just realise there’s more efficient ways of doing things.

Greta hasn’t suggested anything other than “it’s not my job to provide solutions” (that’s a direct quote btw)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ditching capitalism might go some way into dealing with it. Perpetual growth cant be good for the environment can it?"

Anyone who thinks you can have endless growth in a finite environment is either a madman or an economist - David Attenborough.

Ditching free market economics yeah. In its basic form capitalism is fine. Alongside social democratic government policies.

Climate change is happening all around you. The kids inherit the planet off us and they're rightly worried about what state it'll be in when they do. Fair play to them.

I don't care who is behind extinction rebellion when the kids I see at the front of it are fired up for an extremely important cause.

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity


"She made an emotional plea to leaders that they follow the science, which is quite different to your saying her argument was based on emotion.

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What's wrong with that statement??

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity


"Ditching capitalism might go some way into dealing with it. Perpetual growth cant be good for the environment can it?

Anyone who thinks you can have endless growth in a finite environment is either a madman or an economist - David Attenborough.

Ditching free market economics yeah. In its basic form capitalism is fine. Alongside social democratic government policies.

Climate change is happening all around you. The kids inherit the planet off us and they're rightly worried about what state it'll be in when they do. Fair play to them.

I don't care who is behind extinction rebellion when the kids I see at the front of it are fired up for an extremely important cause. "

Exactly . Spot on

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By *hechapMan
over a year ago

Derry

Climate change is all bullshit.

Its the biggest scam on the planet.

WAKEN UP!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"She used emotive words and actions to get her point across. It's a technique used to great effect by Churchill. "

HER point?

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By *oney to the beeWoman
over a year ago

Manchester

It was a great bit of carefully carefully worded manipulation presented by the most non threatening vulnerable looking person. I wonder who the puppet master was.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"She made an emotional plea to leaders that they follow the science, which is quite different to your saying her argument was based on emotion.

What's wrong with that statement??"

I don't think I could teach you buddy, so I won't

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity


"Climate change is all bullshit.

Its the biggest scam on the planet.

WAKEN UP!!"

Could you explain why ??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

She is an amazing child

Give her some credit

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity


"She made an emotional plea to leaders that they follow the science, which is quite different to your saying her argument was based on emotion.

What's wrong with that statement??

I don't think I could teach you buddy, so I won't "

In other words , you dont know

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It was a great bit of carefully carefully worded manipulation presented by the most non threatening vulnerable looking person. I wonder who the puppet master was. "

If a fat, ugly 35 Yr old climate change scientist had presented it...... @...@...@...@...

Says more about the audience than the speaker

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity


"She is an amazing child

Give her some credit "

Finally , well said

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Climate change is all bullshit.

Its the biggest scam on the planet.

WAKEN UP!!"

What's your qualification to make such a dumb remark ?

I'm guessing with that spelling you are not a scientist or using any sort of intelligence.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"She made an emotional plea to leaders that they follow the science, which is quite different to your saying her argument was based on emotion.

What's wrong with that statement??

I don't think I could teach you buddy, so I won't In other words , you dont know "

Yeah, you're correct, I've given you full power of righteousness now, and if the planet isn't fixed soon, I'll blame you..... ......ill get my 10 Yr old daughter out on TV to tell the world about you.....

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity


"She made an emotional plea to leaders that they follow the science, which is quite different to your saying her argument was based on emotion.

What's wrong with that statement??

I don't think I could teach you buddy, so I won't In other words , you dont know

Yeah, you're correct, I've given you full power of righteousness now, and if the planet isn't fixed soon, I'll blame you..... ......ill get my 10 Yr old daughter out on TV to tell the world about you..... "

That statement says it all really, oh well , enjoy your day

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

She’s making massive, unrealistic ultimatum style statements like carbon emissions must be reduced by 80% by 2030 rather than the 40% set in the Paris agreement while I highly doubt she has any clue of how that can be done.

She’s been diagnosed with Asperger’s syndrome, her mother is/was an international opera singer and her father is an actor.

The obvious conclusion to draw is that she is no doubt a fairly intelligent kid who is being used as a puppet to front this mass extinction crap and she is being manipulated by people hiding behind the scenes while her public appearances are choreographed and she is coached by her parents.

She was also diagnosed with selective mutism and I can’t help but think she could do with being slightly more mute!

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By *hetalkingstoveMan
over a year ago

London

To answer a few of the commonly repeated criticisms:

"She's just being brainwashed/used!" - She's written several times about her journey into activism, and how no one has pushed her or paid her, and that in the beginning her parents were dead set against her getting involved.

Those who are advancing this argument have zero evidence for it, and are being extremely patronising in assuming a 16 year old isn't capable of having their own opinions and drive.

"she uses planes/has a carbon footprint!"

It's impossible for someone to campaign on a global level without doing this. The whole point of her recent activity is to point the finger at government and business. That's where changes need to come from. It's great for individuals to reduce their footprint, but unless there's action on a macro scale it'll be meaningless.

"she seems a bit weird!"

Don't know what to tell you here - get some empathy? Realise not everyone in the world is the same?

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over a year ago


"I'm not biting on this thread.... .....much.....

(I do think it's creepy af though, not just that she's being used, but all the ppl around her and the ppl for and against and arguing over a small child who knows pretty much fuck all about life or the planet . Funny how ppl will listen to a child who knows nothing but an expert with a lifetime of experience and qualifications is somehow viewed as crooked, bent or not to be trusted. So adult ppl have to use a child as a megaphone these days. I also find it cringy that they didn't choose a small boy to be the lead figure. Dog whistle psychology at its best but people who want to believe always will. I just think ppl should stop shouting and start listening, talking and learning, on a lot of today's issues.....)

Peace to you all.... "

This

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity


"She’s making massive, unrealistic ultimatum style statements like carbon emissions must be reduced by 80% by 2030 rather than the 40% set in the Paris agreement while I highly doubt she has any clue of how that can be done.

She’s been diagnosed with Asperger’s syndrome, her mother is/was an international opera singer and her father is an actor.

The obvious conclusion to draw is that she is no doubt a fairly intelligent kid who is being used as a puppet to front this mass extinction crap and she is being manipulated by people hiding behind the scenes while her public appearances are choreographed and she is coached by her parents.

She was also diagnosed with selective mutism and I can’t help but think she could do with being slightly more mute!"

What a sick thing to say

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity


"To answer a few of the commonly repeated criticisms:

"She's just being brainwashed/used!" - She's written several times about her journey into activism, and how no one has pushed her or paid her, and that in the beginning her parents were dead set against her getting involved.

Those who are advancing this argument have zero evidence for it, and are being extremely patronising in assuming a 16 year old isn't capable of having their own opinions and drive.

"she uses planes/has a carbon footprint!"

It's impossible for someone to campaign on a global level without doing this. The whole point of her recent activity is to point the finger at government and business. That's where changes need to come from. It's great for individuals to reduce their footprint, but unless there's action on a macro scale it'll be meaningless.

"she seems a bit weird!"

Don't know what to tell you here - get some empathy? Realise not everyone in the world is the same? "

Well said Sir

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I liked it and it is also a good change to see the younger ones engaging in politics and to be on the world stage as you are so used to see the usual politicians

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

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I honestly cannot believe some of the nasty comments being said about her ffs !!

She us merely attempting to raise global awareness about the biggest issue facing ALL of us ever!!

She us not being coerced or manufactured in any way .

She actually started this on her own , a lone school striker in her native country, and others joined her cause .

Good luck to her , shes a wonderful person for humanity

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By *hechapMan
over a year ago

Derry


"Climate change is all bullshit.

Its the biggest scam on the planet.

WAKEN UP!!

Could you explain why ??"

Its a tax scam. The planet and climate has been changing since time began.

It is fuk all to do with your carbon foot print or exhaust emmissions etc etc.

We are been deluded into believing all this crap.

Its a means to tax us and force us all to pay up.

Do a search for 2 scientists from Ireland called Connolly who have researched this subject and NO ONE has ever questioned their findings or proved them to be wrong.

The media and governments just silence them because the geni is out of the bottle and they know it. Its just a matter of time until people realise they have been lied to and conned!!

Its a money making racket and lots of people are making their living from it.

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity


"Climate change is all bullshit.

Its the biggest scam on the planet.

WAKEN UP!!

Could you explain why ??

Its a tax scam. The planet and climate has been changing since time began.

It is fuk all to do with your carbon foot print or exhaust emmissions etc etc.

We are been deluded into believing all this crap.

Its a means to tax us and force us all to pay up.

Do a search for 2 scientists from Ireland called Connolly who have researched this subject and NO ONE has ever questioned their findings or proved them to be wrong.

The media and governments just silence them because the geni is out of the bottle and they know it. Its just a matter of time until people realise they have been lied to and conned!!

Its a money making racket and lots of people are making their living from it."

So David Attenborough is a lying bastard then ??

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By *elvet RopeMan
over a year ago

by the big field

If she thinks I’m giving up my holidays in the sun, she can fuck right off back on her ecoboat

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Climate change is all bullshit.

Its the biggest scam on the planet.

WAKEN UP!!

Could you explain why ??

Its a tax scam. The planet and climate has been changing since time began.

It is fuk all to do with your carbon foot print or exhaust emmissions etc etc.

We are been deluded into believing all this crap.

Its a means to tax us and force us all to pay up.

Do a search for 2 scientists from Ireland called Connolly who have researched this subject and NO ONE has ever questioned their findings or proved them to be wrong.

The media and governments just silence them because the geni is out of the bottle and they know it. Its just a matter of time until people realise they have been lied to and conned!!

Its a money making racket and lots of people are making their living from it. So David Attenborough is a lying bastard then ??"

I wouldn't call him a bastard, he seems like a lovely old man and I love his nature programs, but he does have an agenda, we all do! Nothing happens without motivation and motivation is rarely pure in my experience.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If she thinks I’m giving up my holidays in the sun, she can fuck right off back on her ecoboat "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

She does my f*** nut in. Anytime I see her on the telly it goes straight off.

I feel sorry for her - I bet her life is reaaaal difficult. Hold up - lemme just sail across the channel now to go on holiday.

She isn’t a realist.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Well she has Asperger for a start. Her intentions are well meant, but I wasn’t comfortable watching that speech. She is being pushed blatantly, which is worrying, and fear she will be pushed too far. After researching her parents I’m not at all surprised.

Yes that's what I felt, uncomfortable. "

Yes I felt it was all very false and scripted and slightly aggressive for a child.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Well she has Asperger for a start. Her intentions are well meant, but I wasn’t comfortable watching that speech. She is being pushed blatantly, which is worrying, and fear she will be pushed too far. After researching her parents I’m not at all surprised.

Yes that's what I felt, uncomfortable.

Yes I felt it was all very false and scripted and slightly aggressive for a child. "

That's what Ash said.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Well she has Asperger for a start. Her intentions are well meant, but I wasn’t comfortable watching that speech. She is being pushed blatantly, which is worrying, and fear she will be pushed too far. After researching her parents I’m not at all surprised.

Yes that's what I felt, uncomfortable.

Yes I felt it was all very false and scripted and slightly aggressive for a child.

That's what Ash said. "

If she was mine I’d be saying you don’t speak to adults like that! Lol

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By *hechapMan
over a year ago

Derry


"Climate change is all bullshit.

Its the biggest scam on the planet.

WAKEN UP!!

Could you explain why ??

Its a tax scam. The planet and climate has been changing since time began.

It is fuk all to do with your carbon foot print or exhaust emmissions etc etc.

We are been deluded into believing all this crap.

Its a means to tax us and force us all to pay up.

Do a search for 2 scientists from Ireland called Connolly who have researched this subject and NO ONE has ever questioned their findings or proved them to be wrong.

The media and governments just silence them because the geni is out of the bottle and they know it. Its just a matter of time until people realise they have been lied to and conned!!

Its a money making racket and lots of people are making their living from it. So David Attenborough is a lying bastard then ??"

I know nothing about him but if he is saying that climate change is all to do with green house gases and exhaust emmissions etc etc then yes he is a lieing bastard just like many others.

Some of them know its all lies but play along as there is money to be made but many other people believe the lies and think its true because they saw it on the BBC....

All those changes in the planet would still be happening if we were travelling by donkey and cart and living in caves....

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity


"Climate change is all bullshit.

Its the biggest scam on the planet.

WAKEN UP!!

Could you explain why ??

Its a tax scam. The planet and climate has been changing since time began.

It is fuk all to do with your carbon foot print or exhaust emmissions etc etc.

We are been deluded into believing all this crap.

Its a means to tax us and force us all to pay up.

Do a search for 2 scientists from Ireland called Connolly who have researched this subject and NO ONE has ever questioned their findings or proved them to be wrong.

The media and governments just silence them because the geni is out of the bottle and they know it. Its just a matter of time until people realise they have been lied to and conned!!

Its a money making racket and lots of people are making their living from it. So David Attenborough is a lying bastard then ??

I know nothing about him but if he is saying that climate change is all to do with green house gases and exhaust emmissions etc etc then yes he is a lieing bastard just like many others.

Some of them know its all lies but play along as there is money to be made but many other people believe the lies and think its true because they saw it on the BBC....

All those changes in the planet would still be happening if we were travelling by donkey and cart and living in caves....

"

Really!! Ok

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By *hechapMan
over a year ago

Derry


"Climate change is all bullshit.

Its the biggest scam on the planet.

WAKEN UP!!

Could you explain why ??

Its a tax scam. The planet and climate has been changing since time began.

It is fuk all to do with your carbon foot print or exhaust emmissions etc etc.

We are been deluded into believing all this crap.

Its a means to tax us and force us all to pay up.

Do a search for 2 scientists from Ireland called Connolly who have researched this subject and NO ONE has ever questioned their findings or proved them to be wrong.

The media and governments just silence them because the geni is out of the bottle and they know it. Its just a matter of time until people realise they have been lied to and conned!!

Its a money making racket and lots of people are making their living from it. So David Attenborough is a lying bastard then ??

I know nothing about him but if he is saying that climate change is all to do with green house gases and exhaust emmissions etc etc then yes he is a lieing bastard just like many others.

Some of them know its all lies but play along as there is money to be made but many other people believe the lies and think its true because they saw it on the BBC....

All those changes in the planet would still be happening if we were travelling by donkey and cart and living in caves....

Really!! Ok "

At least now you are aware and your eyes are slightly opened.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I consider myself an environmentalist. Greta annoys me. I believe she is being used by more unscrupulous people behind the scenes.

Climate change and global warming are a mine field. The biggest thing any one can do right now to reduce carbon emissions, is to stop eating any animal products. The agricultural industry around the world is responsible for for co2 emissions than anything else currently on the planet. However, not even the green organisations touch this. WWF and Greenpeace don't even want to talk about it. Agriculture(as in the meat and dairy industry) is not the only contributer obviously but it is the number one contributer. As a race, we need to change our lifestyles. Big business has too much influence, power and money to take on. The information available is purposely so varied and debated, that action will be deathly slow. The best thing any of us can do, is to change your habits. We gurn at the govts to do things but by doing this, we push responsibility to someone else. We are all hypocrites but for a few who live the natural simple life. So, you want to do something? Stop eating meat, dairy, fish. Stop driving your car. Stop relying on apiances to do the work for you. If consumers speak with their feet and wallets. Business will adjust accordingly to chase the money. I still drive, I'm complicit too. I have hiwever changed to a the food plant based diet and B12 supplement. It's not enough though.

Anyway, good luck folks.

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity


"Climate change is all bullshit.

Its the biggest scam on the planet.

WAKEN UP!!

Could you explain why ??

Its a tax scam. The planet and climate has been changing since time began.

It is fuk all to do with your carbon foot print or exhaust emmissions etc etc.

We are been deluded into believing all this crap.

Its a means to tax us and force us all to pay up.

Do a search for 2 scientists from Ireland called Connolly who have researched this subject and NO ONE has ever questioned their findings or proved them to be wrong.

The media and governments just silence them because the geni is out of the bottle and they know it. Its just a matter of time until people realise they have been lied to and conned!!

Its a money making racket and lots of people are making their living from it. So David Attenborough is a lying bastard then ??

I know nothing about him but if he is saying that climate change is all to do with green house gases and exhaust emmissions etc etc then yes he is a lieing bastard just like many others.

Some of them know its all lies but play along as there is money to be made but many other people believe the lies and think its true because they saw it on the BBC....

All those changes in the planet would still be happening if we were travelling by donkey and cart and living in caves....

Really!! Ok

At least now you are aware and your eyes are slightly opened.

"

Yes , indeed , I needed educating innit

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Climate change is all bullshit.

Its the biggest scam on the planet.

WAKEN UP!!

Could you explain why ??

Its a tax scam. The planet and climate has been changing since time began.

It is fuk all to do with your carbon foot print or exhaust emmissions etc etc.

We are been deluded into believing all this crap.

Its a means to tax us and force us all to pay up.

Do a search for 2 scientists from Ireland called Connolly who have researched this subject and NO ONE has ever questioned their findings or proved them to be wrong.

The media and governments just silence them because the geni is out of the bottle and they know it. Its just a matter of time until people realise they have been lied to and conned!!

Its a money making racket and lots of people are making their living from it. So David Attenborough is a lying bastard then ??

I know nothing about him but if he is saying that climate change is all to do with green house gases and exhaust emmissions etc etc then yes he is a lieing bastard just like many others.

Some of them know its all lies but play along as there is money to be made but many other people believe the lies and think its true because they saw it on the BBC....

All those changes in the planet would still be happening if we were travelling by donkey and cart and living in caves....

Really!! Ok

At least now you are aware and your eyes are slightly opened.

Yes , indeed , I needed educating innit "

Innit is MINE, hands off...!

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By *ulfilthmentMan
over a year ago

Just around the corner


"People like you are how the uk ended up in Iraq, just ramp up the fear level, play on emotions, and not a single fav given, and you're at war."

You’ve lost me. We ended up in Iraq because Tony Blair thought it would play well with the Americans. None of us had a say in the matter.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I consider myself an environmentalist. Greta annoys me. I believe she is being used by more unscrupulous people behind the scenes.

Climate change and global warming are a mine field. The biggest thing any one can do right now to reduce carbon emissions, is to stop eating any animal products. The agricultural industry around the world is responsible for for co2 emissions than anything else currently on the planet. However, not even the green organisations touch this. WWF and Greenpeace don't even want to talk about it. Agriculture(as in the meat and dairy industry) is not the only contributer obviously but it is the number one contributer. As a race, we need to change our lifestyles. Big business has too much influence, power and money to take on. The information available is purposely so varied and debated, that action will be deathly slow. The best thing any of us can do, is to change your habits. We gurn at the govts to do things but by doing this, we push responsibility to someone else. We are all hypocrites but for a few who live the natural simple life. So, you want to do something? Stop eating meat, dairy, fish. Stop driving your car. Stop relying on apiances to do the work for you. If consumers speak with their feet and wallets. Business will adjust accordingly to chase the money. I still drive, I'm complicit too. I have hiwever changed to a the food plant based diet and B12 supplement. It's not enough though.

Anyway, good luck folks. "

No we are humans we evolved because we eat animals and we need to do so to function. The thing we can do is stop having so many kids.

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By *inky_CarpenterMan
over a year ago

Portsmouth

As a society we aren't used to unfiltered emotions. And facts being presented without spin or sugar coating. Her Aspergers means she is able to focus herself 100% on what she believes is right, she is looking at a mountain of data pointing to a single conclusion and then she sees the world governments completly ignoring the issue. She is righteously indignant and seriously pissed off, and lacks the social conditioning to hide it.

The look of utter, hatred, disgust and anger when she saw trump was beautiful!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I consider myself an environmentalist. Greta annoys me. I believe she is being used by more unscrupulous people behind the scenes.

Climate change and global warming are a mine field. The biggest thing any one can do right now to reduce carbon emissions, is to stop eating any animal products. The agricultural industry around the world is responsible for for co2 emissions than anything else currently on the planet. However, not even the green organisations touch this. WWF and Greenpeace don't even want to talk about it. Agriculture(as in the meat and dairy industry) is not the only contributer obviously but it is the number one contributer. As a race, we need to change our lifestyles. Big business has too much influence, power and money to take on. The information available is purposely so varied and debated, that action will be deathly slow. The best thing any of us can do, is to change your habits. We gurn at the govts to do things but by doing this, we push responsibility to someone else. We are all hypocrites but for a few who live the natural simple life. So, you want to do something? Stop eating meat, dairy, fish. Stop driving your car. Stop relying on apiances to do the work for you. If consumers speak with their feet and wallets. Business will adjust accordingly to chase the money. I still drive, I'm complicit too. I have hiwever changed to a the food plant based diet and B12 supplement. It's not enough though.

Anyway, good luck folks.

No we are humans we evolved because we eat animals and we need to do so to function. The thing we can do is stop having so many kids."

"A man can live and be healthy without killing animals for food; therefore, if he eats meat, he participates in taking aninal life merely for the sake of his appetite. And to do so is immoral" - Leo Tolstoy

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By *iddlesticksMan
over a year ago

My nan’s spare room.

I admire her stance and agree in what she is fighting for but there’s a massive but.......

I have no truck with her shouting and pontificating at world leaders and the UN. She gets away with it because at one time she was a cute girl with pig tails talking about grown up things.

Would it be acceptable for me to scowl and effectively slag off people on the world stage just because I hold a different view, no it wouldn’t and I wouldn’t get the platform to do it.

I would be impressed if she could give a solution to the issue rather than telling everybody else to find the solutions, that’s where the real heros and heroines are, I can tell people the world is in shit street just as well as she can.

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By *W ChapMan
over a year ago

Swindon


"She does my f*** nut in. Anytime I see her on the telly it goes straight off.

I feel sorry for her - I bet her life is reaaaal difficult. Hold up - lemme just sail across the channel now to go on holiday.

She isn’t a realist. "

^this

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By *m389Man
over a year ago

Magherafelt

It’s a difficult issue, even something like having less children will have drastic consequences on society. In time you have less people in working age contributing to taxes and a high number of retired who need healthcare and benefits. The state may not have enough taxation income to support the elderly.

We certainly can implement things but we need to be ready and willing to deal with knock on effects.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

She looked very aggressive and even scary at the way she was looking at people...either she is like this normally or someone is winding her up like a toy and then lets go

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I admire her stance and agree in what she is fighting for but there’s a massive but.......

I have no truck with her shouting and pontificating at world leaders and the UN. She gets away with it because at one time she was a cute girl with pig tails talking about grown up things.

Would it be acceptable for me to scowl and effectively slag off people on the world stage just because I hold a different view, no it wouldn’t and I wouldn’t get the platform to do it.

I would be impressed if she could give a solution to the issue rather than telling everybody else to find the solutions, that’s where the real heros and heroines are, I can tell people the world is in shit street just as well as she can. "

She's adopting the behaviour of her left wing activist puppeteers. Shout shout shout...

What's do you suggest we do?

Eh...shout shout shout...racist, fascist etc etc..

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over a year ago


"She looked very aggressive and even scary at the way she was looking at people...either she is like this normally or someone is winding her up like a toy and then lets go"

yeah, she has a we plastic ring and string hanging out the back if her. One if the puppeteers grab it, run around the block, then release...pinging her onto stage to splurge her rants at the poluplation. Then when it's finished, she slumps over. They fold her up, pop her back in her box until the next speaking event!

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo


"She looked very aggressive and even scary at the way she was looking at people...either she is like this normally or someone is winding her up like a toy and then lets go

yeah, she has a we plastic ring and string hanging out the back if her. One if the puppeteers grab it, run around the block, then release...pinging her onto stage to splurge her rants at the poluplation. Then when it's finished, she slumps over. They fold her up, pop her back in her box until the next speaking event! "

okkk then, are you a relative by any chance?

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By *evil_u_knowMan
over a year ago

city


"People like you are how the uk ended up in Iraq, just ramp up the fear level, play on emotions, and not a single fav given, and you're at war.

You’ve lost me. We ended up in Iraq because Tony Blair thought it would play well with the Americans. None of us had a say in the matter."

You did have a say, you could have ground the country to a halt, but you accepted it.

Look at America during world war 2, back when people ignored appeals to emotion. It took them ages to enter even though they knew it was an awful situation for people in europe. They waited for cold hard facts and figures.

These days Trump will fire missiles at a country over a child in a youtube video.

The UK got involved in Iraq because the people of the UK accept these below standard appeals all the time, its why they are leaving the EU, no facts, no figures, just emotions.

Emotions got you into iraq, emotions got you out of the EU, emotions will lead to the break up of the union, because emotions are not supposed to be used when deciding stuff.

This girl is Maud from the simpsons, running around screaming "THINK OF THE CHILDREN", her getting air time is patethic. Put on a scientist, put on the facts, put on anything but her.

its better the leader of your country work with facts than appeasing a child pulling at emotional strings.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"I consider myself an environmentalist. Greta annoys me. I believe she is being used by more unscrupulous people behind the scenes.

Climate change and global warming are a mine field. The biggest thing any one can do right now to reduce carbon emissions, is to stop eating any animal products. The agricultural industry around the world is responsible for for co2 emissions than anything else currently on the planet. However, not even the green organisations touch this. WWF and Greenpeace don't even want to talk about it. Agriculture(as in the meat and dairy industry) is not the only contributer obviously but it is the number one contributer. As a race, we need to change our lifestyles. Big business has too much influence, power and money to take on. The information available is purposely so varied and debated, that action will be deathly slow. The best thing any of us can do, is to change your habits. We gurn at the govts to do things but by doing this, we push responsibility to someone else. We are all hypocrites but for a few who live the natural simple life. So, you want to do something? Stop eating meat, dairy, fish. Stop driving your car. Stop relying on apiances to do the work for you. If consumers speak with their feet and wallets. Business will adjust accordingly to chase the money. I still drive, I'm complicit too. I have hiwever changed to a the food plant based diet and B12 supplement. It's not enough though.

Anyway, good luck folks. "

Why fish ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The whole debate is forced and full of fake facts using a brain washed child is just cruel. yes the world needs to change the way it does things but will it reverse climate change? No. will it stop climate change? No. Will it earn big company's lots of money under the pretence of being green? Of course it will that's the real reason its in the news. The planets climate will always change it has done since the beginning of time there is nothing that can be do e about it all we can do is live the best life we can, change things to make ourselves have a more healthy life and not be brainwashed and fooled by things dressed as things they are not

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That speech made me cringe

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

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"She looked very aggressive and even scary at the way she was looking at people...either she is like this normally or someone is winding her up like a toy and then lets go

yeah, she has a we plastic ring and string hanging out the back if her. One if the puppeteers grab it, run around the block, then release...pinging her onto stage to splurge her rants at the poluplation. Then when it's finished, she slumps over. They fold her up, pop her back in her box until the next speaking event!

okkk then, are you a relative by any chance?

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Sorry my post was in response to yours that I thought sounded aggressive, that was assuming on my part, you could have just been joining in on what I said

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over a year ago


"She looked very aggressive and even scary at the way she was looking at people...either she is like this normally or someone is winding her up like a toy and then lets go

yeah, she has a we plastic ring and string hanging out the back if her. One if the puppeteers grab it, run around the block, then release...pinging her onto stage to splurge her rants at the poluplation. Then when it's finished, she slumps over. They fold her up, pop her back in her box until the next speaking event!

okkk then, are you a relative by any chance?

Sorry my post was in response to yours that I thought sounded aggressive, that was assuming on my part, you could have just been joining in on what I said "

No apologies necessary. When i read it, i thought eh?? Lol but then came across this. I was just joining in on what you said.

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By *arlomaleMan
over a year ago

darlington

I had to turn her off I found her quite annoying and I’m thinking she’s just a puppet for someone else her speech seemed a bit scripted but she’s doing no harm I suppose she will reach a different audience (younger) but me personally she got on my nerves a bit whiny

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Did anyone get a meet out of this thread?

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By *inotGringoMan
over a year ago

Lancashire


"#analsexonly

Saw it on a flyer this weekend and I believe it’s true

Stop whinging on about car journeys and air travel. The only way to save the planet is stop population increase.

Sadly the bleeding heart liberals aren’t prepared to accept that the biggest damage they will ever to do the planet is having a kid."

I somewhat agree, but regardless this made my day.

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By *hechapMan
over a year ago

Derry


"Did anyone get a meet out of this thread? "

I refused a meet because it was too far to walk and i didnt want to be driving and causing all these problems.

I also needed a shower but i didnt want to be wasting water...

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By *hilloutMan
over a year ago

All over the place! Northwesr, , Southwest


"I saw her speech and she was right but something troubled me about her.. any comments ?"

She was right about what? The world ending and her future being stolen from her? She represents a very dangerous form of extremism that stifles rational debate and is causing hysteria in younger, more susceptible minds. She's a pawn and a poster girl fir a very dangerous and nefarious agenda.

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over a year ago


"I saw her speech and she was right but something troubled me about her.. any comments ?

She was right about what? The world ending and her future being stolen from her? She represents a very dangerous form of extremism that stifles rational debate and is causing hysteria in younger, more susceptible minds. She's a pawn and a poster girl fir a very dangerous and nefarious agenda."

I think she's definitely a puppet. She doesn't realise but she is.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

For those of you asking "why is a child saying this stuff?", It's really simple, scientists have been warning us since the 90's, we never listened to them, things have rapidly gone worse and hot to the point where teenagers and kids are having to protest.

We're at a point in time where common people think scientists are "elites" trying to control us, at a point where anti-vaxxers have helped in the return of diseases like polio, etc. Everyone is so anti-science these days it's like we're going back to the dark ages because of people's stupidity and/or greed.

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over a year ago


"For those of you asking "why is a child saying this stuff?", It's really simple, scientists have been warning us since the 90's, we never listened to them, things have rapidly gone worse and hot to the point where teenagers and kids are having to protest.

We're at a point in time where common people think scientists are "elites" trying to control us, at a point where anti-vaxxers have helped in the return of diseases like polio, etc. Everyone is so anti-science these days it's like we're going back to the dark ages because of people's stupidity and/or greed."

Glad you put that in two paragraphs....

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

I like and respect her, including her determination at what is obviously a really tough pursuit that she's on. I don't expect her to be near perfect - she's so young and inexperienced but will learn. I can take her at face value and appreciate her efforts to improve the lives of billions, as well as other life on earth. Her Autism is potentially a tough call, whilst under so much scrutiny.

Who here wouldn't have found it tough at such a tender period in life? I expect high standards from elected officials but don't believe it to be appropriate for a volunteering school student, to that degree.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central


"The whole debate is forced and full of fake facts using a brain washed child is just cruel. yes the world needs to change the way it does things but will it reverse climate change? No. will it stop climate change? No. Will it earn big company's lots of money under the pretence of being green? Of course it will that's the real reason its in the news. The planets climate will always change it has done since the beginning of time there is nothing that can be do e about it all we can do is live the best life we can, change things to make ourselves have a more healthy life and not be brainwashed and fooled by things dressed as things they are not "

Natural climate change will continue but the current climate heating, since the start of the industrial revolution is predominantly caused by humans - the 2 types are totally distinct.

The science shows that there is a very short window to limit the level of current global heating, to within less extreme and catastrophic boundaries. There's potentially 10 or 11 years left for this. Each day wasted makes that goal harder or impossible to achieve. Failing at this imperils millions of people, the survival of some nations, other lifeforms and people you may know or family.

It's an emergency to limit the amount of the damage that is being caused and is the intelligent thing to do.

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over a year ago


"The whole debate is forced and full of fake facts using a brain washed child is just cruel. yes the world needs to change the way it does things but will it reverse climate change? No. will it stop climate change? No. Will it earn big company's lots of money under the pretence of being green? Of course it will that's the real reason its in the news. The planets climate will always change it has done since the beginning of time there is nothing that can be do e about it all we can do is live the best life we can, change things to make ourselves have a more healthy life and not be brainwashed and fooled by things dressed as things they are not

Natural climate change will continue but the current climate heating, since the start of the industrial revolution is predominantly caused by humans - the 2 types are totally distinct.

The science shows that there is a very short window to limit the level of current global heating, to within less extreme and catastrophic boundaries. There's potentially 10 or 11 years left for this. Each day wasted makes that goal harder or impossible to achieve. Failing at this imperils millions of people, the survival of some nations, other lifeforms and people you may know or family.

It's an emergency to limit the amount of the damage that is being caused and is the intelligent thing to do. "

And exactly why I said we need to change the way we do things sadly change will never happen whe company's have money to make from the propergander from the pretence of it

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

She looked more than troubled

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By *ky19Man
over a year ago

Plymouth OYO Hotel

This is all your fault!

Children like these will suffer, unless YOU get a SMART Meter!!

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity


"For those of you asking "why is a child saying this stuff?", It's really simple, scientists have been warning us since the 90's, we never listened to them, things have rapidly gone worse and hot to the point where teenagers and kids are having to protest.

We're at a point in time where common people think scientists are "elites" trying to control us, at a point where anti-vaxxers have helped in the return of diseases like polio, etc. Everyone is so anti-science these days it's like we're going back to the dark ages because of people's stupidity and/or greed."

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

Over 99.9% of species that have ever existed on this planet are extinct. We are no different. We will follow them. We are not destroying the planet but we are destroying the environment in which humans can exist. The planet will continue without us. The biggest threat imo is overpopulation and the laws of unintended consequences that we hear every day especially around feeding more and more people putting ever more strain on our resources. The answer ? I don't have one. Humans are doomed...

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over a year ago


"Over 99.9% of species that have ever existed on this planet are extinct. We are no different. We will follow them. We are not destroying the planet but we are destroying the environment in which humans can exist. The planet will continue without us. The biggest threat imo is overpopulation and the laws of unintended consequences that we hear every day especially around feeding more and more people putting ever more strain on our resources. The answer ? I don't have one. Humans are doomed... "

I like this

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I always think to myself when ppl go on about protecting the great wild British countryside, "what, you mean that man made farm with pesticide covered fields and cows shitting out methane where there was once an impenetrable woodland....?"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Love that people are accusing 16 year old Greta Thunberg of being obviously manipulated because she is so young , but Shamina Begum should be treated as an adult for her actions at 15 because she definitely knew what she was doing .

The right have never been the brightest bunch .

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over a year ago


"Love that people are accusing 16 year old Greta Thunberg of being obviously manipulated because she is so young , but Shamina Begum should be treated as an adult for her actions at 15 because she definitely knew what she was doing .

The right have never been the brightest bunch ."

So you don't believe that two completely different people, supporting two completely different ideals can have two completely different motivations? That's very narrow-minded thinking.

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over a year ago


"Love that people are accusing 16 year old Greta Thunberg of being obviously manipulated because she is so young , but Shamina Begum should be treated as an adult for her actions at 15 because she definitely knew what she was doing .

The right have never been the brightest bunch .

So you don't believe that two completely different people, supporting two completely different ideals can have two completely different motivations? That's very narrow-minded thinking."

I think he's saying that if you believe Greta is just a child that's being manipulated then perhaps other 15/16 year old girls could perhaps be being manipulated as well.... Worth thinking about eh...

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

I bet film companies are already drooling over film rights

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

We are all manipulated every day. Manipulated and conditioned by Governments, laws, the press,

Not sure I would compare these two cases too closely though.

I do get your point. I can find honour and integrity in Greta's views and actions but not in Begums..

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By *andy cock queenTV/TS
over a year ago

Aldershot.....Hants

Joan of Ark was the same..gobbed off about stuff, got attention, same as this chick now....only difference being...people had more common sense 700 years ago...

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By *riskynriskyCouple
over a year ago

Essex.


"Love that people are accusing 16 year old Greta Thunberg of being obviously manipulated because she is so young , but Shamina Begum should be treated as an adult for her actions at 15 because she definitely knew what she was doing .

The right have never been the brightest bunch ."

I would say she is being manipulated, if you have read the magazine article written by her mother.

She spends most of her time mute outside of family members, she often starved herself.

Proper parents would shield a child that vulnerable not fill her head with extreme ideas.

Yes everyone with any sense wants a cleaner planet but we know that the world isn't going to end in the next year or so.

The left say that Begum is a child and didn't know what she was getting into at 15, yet think that 16 year olds should have the vote.

So I would say the left are the ones that can't make their minds up.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

I don't agree with her when she states that climate change has robbed her of her childhood. I think she needs to look closer to home for whoever's taken that.

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over a year ago


"Joan of Ark was the same..gobbed off about stuff, got attention, same as this chick now....only difference being...people had more common sense 700 years ago..."

Are you actually advocating burning her at the stake? I reckon that's a bit harsh myself...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And another thing, the climate couldn't care less whether you're a heartless tory or a loony leftie. Might be an idea to join forces for once. Which I'm fairly certain is what Greta has been saying all along.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury


"Joan of Ark was the same..gobbed off about stuff, got attention, same as this chick now....only difference being...people had more common sense 700 years ago...

Are you actually advocating burning her at the stake? I reckon that's a bit harsh myself... "

Think of the CO2..

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By *osie xWoman
over a year ago

wolverhampton

16 year olds cleaning the earth and putting climate change right??

I can't get my 16yo to clean their room and turn off lights so good luck with that

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

I felt very uneasy about how she comes across and the things she says.

She hasn't done anything i'm aware of that is greater than governments , science bodies and more organised groups.

Without the media coverage..... fuck all would be known about her.

She is being used.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"And another thing, the climate couldn't care less whether you're a heartless tory or a loony leftie. Might be an idea to join forces for once. Which I'm fairly certain is what Greta has been saying all along. "

And many generations before her.

It's like fucking Jamie Oliver and school dinners all over again.

There were sons of God before Jesus too.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"I don't agree with her when she states that climate change has robbed her of her childhood. I think she needs to look closer to home for whoever's taken that. "

She's had her childhood. Most of it. Maybe she should focus more on the generation after her and not berating fellow beings.

I've never responded to the stick method.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I thought she had downs or some other learning disability.

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich


"16 year olds cleaning the earth and putting climate change right??

I can't get my 16yo to clean their room and turn off lights so good luck with that"

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By * and M lookingCouple
over a year ago

Worcester


"Her age. I worry that she is being used / manipulated.

Someone also suggested she is autistic? "

She has Asbergers, but is still an obnoxious little s**t

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"She’s making massive, unrealistic ultimatum style statements like carbon emissions must be reduced by 80% by 2030 rather than the 40% set in the Paris agreement while I highly doubt she has any clue of how that can be done.

She’s been diagnosed with Asperger’s syndrome, her mother is/was an international opera singer and her father is an actor.

The obvious conclusion to draw is that she is no doubt a fairly intelligent kid who is being used as a puppet to front this mass extinction crap and she is being manipulated by people hiding behind the scenes while her public appearances are choreographed and she is coached by her parents.

She was also diagnosed with selective mutism and I can’t help but think she could do with being slightly more mute! What a sick thing to say "

I make absolutely no apologies for your snowflake “I’m offended” alarm going off

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity


"She’s making massive, unrealistic ultimatum style statements like carbon emissions must be reduced by 80% by 2030 rather than the 40% set in the Paris agreement while I highly doubt she has any clue of how that can be done.

She’s been diagnosed with Asperger’s syndrome, her mother is/was an international opera singer and her father is an actor.

The obvious conclusion to draw is that she is no doubt a fairly intelligent kid who is being used as a puppet to front this mass extinction crap and she is being manipulated by people hiding behind the scenes while her public appearances are choreographed and she is coached by her parents.

She was also diagnosed with selective mutism and I can’t help but think she could do with being slightly more mute! What a sick thing to say

I make absolutely no apologies for your snowflake “I’m offended” alarm going off "

If I'm offended by you taking the piss out of someone's disability, then call me a Snowflake . I wont say what I really think else I'd be on the naughty step.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This thread has been a real eye opener

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

I read yesterday that some scientists say a tipping point has been reached and 70% of the permafrost will melt causing ever more methane to be released. We are goosed folks

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Seems a lot of middle aged white men on here getting all uppity.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

All part of an agenda, big Green businesses who stand to profit by billions in cash push the buttons.

I heard some of her speech on the radio, like most of this stuff I hear, all conjecture, scientists have proven that the world was hotter in Tudor times than it is today, yet are unable to explain why, other than to offer the opinion that global warming is cyclic.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

She reminds me of the legendary 12th century children's crusade (may just have been a legend). Well meant but ended badly for the kids.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"She’s making massive, unrealistic ultimatum style statements like carbon emissions must be reduced by 80% by 2030 rather than the 40% set in the Paris agreement while I highly doubt she has any clue of how that can be done.

She’s been diagnosed with Asperger’s syndrome, her mother is/was an international opera singer and her father is an actor.

The obvious conclusion to draw is that she is no doubt a fairly intelligent kid who is being used as a puppet to front this mass extinction crap and she is being manipulated by people hiding behind the scenes while her public appearances are choreographed and she is coached by her parents.

She was also diagnosed with selective mutism and I can’t help but think she could do with being slightly more mute! What a sick thing to say

I make absolutely no apologies for your snowflake “I’m offended” alarm going off If I'm offended by you taking the piss out of someone's disability, then call me a Snowflake . I wont say what I really think else I'd be on the naughty step."

Oh go for it! You named yourself sweary mcswearface...

Or is that sweaty mcsweatface?

The plot thickens...

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By *hechapMan
over a year ago

Derry


"All part of an agenda, big Green businesses who stand to profit by billions in cash push the buttons.

I heard some of her speech on the radio, like most of this stuff I hear, all conjecture, scientists have proven that the world was hotter in Tudor times than it is today, yet are unable to explain why, other than to offer the opinion that global warming is cyclic."

There would be alot less hype and scare mongering about it if there was no money to be made from it.

I bet those who profit from it didnt think the people were so gulliable and easy fooled.

It takes the meaning "been naive" to a whole new level.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

https://youtu.be/8455KEDitpU

Fascinating...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

She's a pain in the arse

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The Earth has cooled down and heated up over the billions of years it has existed.. I really don't think we have contributed to much to the natural effects of the atmosphere.

Climate change seems to be ontrend, I'm just looking forward to all the taxes on breathing that our coming our way.

Soon it will just be us plebs that can't fly or use transportation because of "climate change" but as long as the affluent people amongst us pay their carbon footprint donation all is fine

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And this bollocks about kids missing school to protest is just the latest fad! Much the same as Pokemon cards and all that guff!

Jail the damn parents I say! If I told my parents I was going to skip school to wave signs with some twaddle about polar bears or ice caps written on them I’d get a slap and sent on my way to school!

The climate may be changing, naturally or otherwise, however it’s no excuse to dodge education! It’s not like climate change is melting the school buildings

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By *agneto.Man
over a year ago

Bham

I find her very irritating. And that scowl staring at Trump. Irritating.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm sorry but she is a puppet. Yes the planet is changing and we need to do something about it but this generation isn't helping and we aren't either. All of us are going out buying cheap stuff that doesn't last with so much packaging on the dam stuff. All wanting the latest gadget or fashion item to stay cool. Every school getting all these new computers linking everything to the internet, all going for electric cars, we as consumers need to say no enough is enough now we want this fruit and vegetables no matter what shape they are, stop this bio-mas shit because someone thinks it's sustainable energy it's all rubbish and a lot of people believe it. How is an electric car good for the environment? People need to look how they get the lithium for these batteries it bloody destroys the land they get it from. But let's all just carry on and think it's not my fault. We are all to blame

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By *apiomanMan
over a year ago

Shipley


"I do think some things are done as a stunt though, like sailing the Atlantic to address the UN.

Anyone else see the irony that the people who had to bring the boat back had to fly to New York?"

If you are saying that flying needs to stop, getting on a plane doesn’t do much credibility for your argument.

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By *apiomanMan
over a year ago

Shipley


"If she gets Governments to listen and act , then I dont care about her reasons or motives.

Somebody needed to do it , yes the fact she is a child helps, but so what, she is passionate about her beliefs , that's all "

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By *loswingersCouple
over a year ago

Gloucester


"https://youtu.be/8455KEDitpU

Fascinating..."

More than fascinating, this is the truth of the matter.

How gullible are we?

Let’s use a schoolgirl with a serious case of Aspergers to influence the world.

You couldn’t make this shit up!

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By *hechapMan
over a year ago

Derry


"https://youtu.be/8455KEDitpU

Fascinating...

More than fascinating, this is the truth of the matter.

How gullible are we?

Let’s use a schoolgirl with a serious case of Aspergers to influence the world.

You couldn’t make this shit up!"

You could make it up but you need to be part of the scam to get people to believe it.

How the fuk do they keep a straight face when they sphew out all this shite knowing its lies and a complete farce?

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

It's the emperor's new clothes all over again.

But it's all about control. The west can't compete with oil production from the middle east, so let's take the economic power away from OPEC, and have economies reliant on nuclear, solar and wind.

Has China, India, or Russia stopped building coal fired power stations? No. Are their scientists stupid? No.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Funny how there isn't any backlash from people towards famous sexy actor Jason Momoa when he gave a speech about taking climate change seriously in a plea to the UN.

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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago

Bristol


"Nice to see youngsters on strike from school on a climate march , drinking & having a Mc Donald’s . Just an observation "

Yes, curse those hypocritical kids and their so called ‘thirst’, eating food because they are ‘hungry’!

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

Greta has been campaigning for climate change for years. There’s a photo of her on her own with a placard age 14 outside the Swedish (or somewhere) government. I thinks it’s inspirational what she has achieved. It’s her future.

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By *hechapMan
over a year ago

Derry


"I do think some things are done as a stunt though, like sailing the Atlantic to address the UN.

Anyone else see the irony that the people who had to bring the boat back had to fly to New York?

If you are saying that flying needs to stop, getting on a plane doesn’t do much credibility for your argument. "

Dont do as i do.

Do as i say!

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By *evil_u_knowMan
over a year ago

city


"I thinks it’s inspirational what she has achieved. It’s her future. "

Without doubt, political parties are always looking for virtue signalling people who can stir emotional reaction to join their ranks.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not sure about climate change but had a video sent taking piss out of the youth of today saying first people to get air con in class use of electric devices was very funny

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Anyone who wasn't born yesterday,has heard of imminent planet destruction,lots of money to be made in 'climate'study,now we have the likes of one.org,350.org using children to get across there multi million/billionaire funded message,basically it's continuing the wealth transfer of '08,wealth transfer,with a messenger above criticism

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

She’s a puppet. I’m so tired of her deflecting criticism with the “I’m a child” “I have Aspergers” line. Same with the adults that use that defence too.

In reality she’s not telling a bike anything new - and in fact all she’s doing is reinforcing doom and gloom and this apocalyptic vision of the future.

We need positive people to lead the charge. Not false anger and meaningless statements like “you stole my childhood”. Sure that sounds great but what does that actually mean? Who are the “you” that she’s talking about and why was anything stolen?

It’s just a finger pointing game with no real aim or solution

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By *icolerobbieCouple
over a year ago

walsall

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10022396/greta-thunberg-meltdown-wont-help-world/

I really hate the sun newspaper, but this article by Jeremy Clarkson is pretty much spot on.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10022396/greta-thunberg-meltdown-wont-help-world/

I really hate the sun newspaper, but this article by Jeremy Clarkson is pretty much spot on. "

You have to love ole Jeremy.... his piece is concise and precise .... He shouldn't have been so patronising at the end of the piece ...but then ..... he is the arrogant git that is J.C. Long may he speak sense.

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By *icolerobbieCouple
over a year ago

walsall


"https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10022396/greta-thunberg-meltdown-wont-help-world/

I really hate the sun newspaper, but this article by Jeremy Clarkson is pretty much spot on.

You have to love ole Jeremy.... his piece is concise and precise .... He shouldn't have been so patronising at the end of the piece ...but then ..... he is the arrogant git that is J.C. Long may he speak sense. "

Well I rarely agree with him, but in this instance it’s hard not to.

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By *est Wales WifeCouple
over a year ago

Near Carmarthen

Greta Thunberg is being strategically exploited by the World Bank, the UN, and the non-profit industrial complex that serves the ruling classes. They are using her to advance their own self-interests and objectives – that are in direct opposition to everything this young woman articulates.

Google for "The Manufacturing of Greta Thunberg – for Consent: The Political Economy of the Non-Profit Industrial Complex"

If you really want to find out more.

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By *actilemale4uMan
over a year ago

London

A puppet... .... Just hope for her sake she copes when the fame fades. Another case of over pushing parents I suspect

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

Let the end of this thread not be like the end of the world due to climate change.

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

Actually, of course, it won’t be the end of the world, climate change could change things so drastically it could mean the end of humans but good ol’ Erff will carry on.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"She used emotive words and actions to get her point across. It's a technique used to great effect by Churchill. "

And Hitler

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