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"Because they can?...." Alright soft lad that's weak lol | |||
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"(sits back and awaits the avalanche of abuse) lol" Hopefully not too much of an avalanche ![]() | |||
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"What an odd thing to say. " Not odd just a curious question lol | |||
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"Because they can?.... Alright soft lad that's weak lol" Nobody is obliged to do anything you know. If they want to play mind games then that's their perogative but it could just be that they dont know what they want. | |||
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"Why do women say one thing, mean another thing and then do something completely different ![]() ![]() ![]() Why do men looking for sex with women, start a thread which will achieve more blocks than sex ![]() | |||
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"Why do women say one thing, mean another thing and then do something completely different ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Why can women not just answer the question? | |||
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"What an odd thing to say. " That odd as in ... in a few minutes that will be good and then bit later really good and then further down the line really odd? | |||
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"Has someone said no to you OP? " Yeah couple have said I'm not there type but that's life your not going to match with everyone lol but that's not the reason to the question, I was curious as to what peoples options where lol | |||
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"Why do women say one thing, mean another thing and then do something completely different ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Because there is no one answer. The world has diverse women with different answers. | |||
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"Why do men not listen and say things like this? I say what I mean but people hear what they want: I told a guy “no thanks” very politely yesterday. He took that to mean “send another 6 messages”. Now I’m sure he’s going to whinge that he tried and conversation went dead or he got blocked by another mean woman. Your post is stereotypical nonsense ( I mean that ![]() ![]() Damm lol not all are persistent just seems like you got a bad bunch after you and it's not stereotypical nonsense I was just curious as I was speaking with a friend the other day and he was going on a date with a lady friend. He had to cancel due to family bereavement but didnt wanna tell this girl he met the main reason behind it but she went all pissy on him about cancelling. But some men on here once in there life has been stood up valud reason or not and I was curious as to why it's okay to stand a guy up and when and if he moans about it women still get pissed either way lol | |||
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"Why do women say one thing, mean another thing and then do something completely different ![]() ![]() ![]() Oh love this and am guilty of it too... Because we’re super complex, hyper intelligent beings. That’s why. ![]() | |||
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"Why do women say one thing, mean another thing and then do something completely different ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() that's why I asked to see different opinions. | |||
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"Why do women say one thing, mean another thing and then do something completely different ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() If people block me they block me, I am who I am I wont change who I am to please anyone. I ask these questions to learn. | |||
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"We don't All behave that way!" I agree with you there some dont and the ones that dont fair play they have my respect because there true to there word | |||
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"Why do women say one thing, mean another thing and then do something completely different ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Super complex indeed ![]() | |||
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"Why do men not listen and say things like this? I say what I mean but people hear what they want: I told a guy “no thanks” very politely yesterday. He took that to mean “send another 6 messages”. Now I’m sure he’s going to whinge that he tried and conversation went dead or he got blocked by another mean woman. Your post is stereotypical nonsense ( I mean that ![]() ![]() It is generalised nonsense I’ve never stood anyone up. If I cancel I cancel and give the reason. We as a couple have been stood up before and it did piss me off. Had the guys messaged and said “hey I just can’t” I would have been less pissed off. You’re making general statements as if they apply to all women. This is a silly conversation it would be like me saying why don’t any men pick up their socks when they know they need to? Well some men do pick up their socks. Some women don’t do whatever you’re trying to say is a trait of all women. | |||
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"Why do women say one thing, mean another thing and then do something completely different ![]() ![]() ![]() Why do women say one thing to a man who hears something completely different, thinks they actually mean what he thinks he heard when he wasn't concentrating because he was looking at her breasts then wonders why she does what she actually said in the first place...? ![]() | |||
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"Why do women say one thing, mean another thing and then do something completely different ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Ah problem solved... women's fault for having breasts! Thread closed | |||
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"Why do SOME women say one thing, mean another thing and then do something completely different ![]() ![]() ![]() There.. Fixed it for you | |||
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"Why do women say one thing, mean another thing and then do something completely different" Unless they've clarified it, how do you know they do? | |||
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"Why do women say one thing, mean another thing and then do something completely different ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() That's about it! ![]() | |||
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"Why do women say one thing, mean another thing and then do something completely different ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Ah but don’t you know that Fab is all about personal preference? Poor Eve didn’t have a choice so why waste the effort. See what I mean about hyper intelligent? | |||
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"Why do women say one thing, mean another thing and then do something completely different ![]() ![]() ![]() I think you'll find it's 6 and 2 x 3. I've come to learn and accept that I don't understand men, they don't understand me. I don't think that will ever change. Suck it up buttercup, it's part of life. | |||
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"Why do men not listen and say things like this? I say what I mean but people hear what they want: I told a guy “no thanks” very politely yesterday. He took that to mean “send another 6 messages”. Now I’m sure he’s going to whinge that he tried and conversation went dead or he got blocked by another mean woman. Your post is stereotypical nonsense ( I mean that ![]() ![]() if you read up then you will see I even said not all women do I was asking the women that do | |||
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"Why do men not listen and say things like this? I say what I mean but people hear what they want: I told a guy “no thanks” very politely yesterday. He took that to mean “send another 6 messages”. Now I’m sure he’s going to whinge that he tried and conversation went dead or he got blocked by another mean woman. Your post is stereotypical nonsense ( I mean that ![]() ![]() You said 'why do women', not 'why do some women', which implied all women ![]() | |||
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"Why do women say one thing, mean another thing and then do something completely different ![]() ![]() ![]() Because each of my personalities has a different opinion ![]() | |||
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"Why do women say one thing, mean another thing and then do something completely different ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() It's hard work sometimes ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Why do women say one thing, mean another thing and then do something completely different ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() That's just men being men, red blooded males they are going to admire the woman's body if it's there to admire and vice versa to women we all do it. Especially on this site I've never seen so many naked women in my life how can you not look. This is a typical thing with some women ( not all ) where if you dont show anything it means your not interested anymore or if you do then your perving lol men just cant win. | |||
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"Fook knows. Women baffle me. Swear I shoulda been a bloke. " Men ain't that easy either lol were just as hard work ![]() | |||
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"Why do women say one thing, mean another thing and then do something completely different ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Why single me out of all the replies ? | |||
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"Fook knows. Women baffle me. Swear I shoulda been a bloke. Men ain't that easy either lol were just as hard work ![]() Nah you think you are. | |||
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"Sometimes they might not want to hurt your feelings and try to let you down gently, usually backfires! Or, they may just tell it like it is. But don't generalise OP, it's not all black and white is it! Jo ![]() I never said it was all black and white I was just curious as to why some not all women say and do it | |||
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"Fook knows. Women baffle me. Swear I shoulda been a bloke. Men ain't that easy either lol were just as hard work ![]() So your telling me you've never had a hard time with men ![]() | |||
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"Why do women say one thing, mean another thing and then do something completely different ![]() ![]() ![]() I don't in the slightest, more a fault is I'm too literal ![]() | |||
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"Can you give us an example OP? I’ll ask again. ![]() I guess I’ll never know ![]() | |||
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" That's just men being men, red blooded males they are going to admire the woman's body if it's there to admire and vice versa to women we all do it. Especially on this site I've never seen so many naked women in my life how can you not look. This is a typical thing with some women ( not all ) where if you dont show anything it means your not interested anymore or if you do then your perving lol men just cant win." Omg this post makes my head hurt. They’ve said something about how men don’t listen and you’ve not listed and gone off on a tangent about nudity. Also humans have the same kind of blood male and female. No one is telling you not to look on this website. You’re best just not trying to make points Op. | |||
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"Fook knows. Women baffle me. Swear I shoulda been a bloke. Men ain't that easy either lol were just as hard work ![]() ![]() Nope. Only women | |||
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"Why do men not listen and say things like this? I say what I mean but people hear what they want: I told a guy “no thanks” very politely yesterday. He took that to mean “send another 6 messages”. Now I’m sure he’s going to whinge that he tried and conversation went dead or he got blocked by another mean woman. Your post is stereotypical nonsense ( I mean that ![]() ![]() This. | |||
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"Why do women say one thing, mean another thing and then do something completely different ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Think he may feel differently to what you said | |||
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"It’s a some people thing. Some men say yes I will be there at 8 and then vanish off of fab forever. Some couples say they want to meet but then they say they can’t. Sometimes I say I would like to meet someone but then find out they think bareback is a good plan and poof my mind changes. I can change my mind mid sex even if I want, even with my husband. Because we can. ![]() The end aye bet this convo still continues | |||
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"Why do women say one thing, mean another thing and then do something completely different ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Singled you out? What? I saw your response and commented on it. It's what happens on forums. Would you prefer i message privately and request your permision first? It's grand though. If you don't want to respond or don't want to comment on the OP's question. That's grand. Don't, but please don't paint a picture of being singled out, it implies you are a victim of something. Which you are not. I'll now stop any further discussion with you at this point. | |||
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"So I heard this really strange whinning noise, it was an incessant droning on and on. At occasional times one could almost decipher a 'sort of language'... not coherent or rational but nonethesless a sound that almost, only almost seemed vaguely intelligible.... no idea what it was... Sorry love what were you saying?" ![]() | |||
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"Why do women say one thing, mean another thing and then do something completely different ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() He asked why I couldn't give a straight answer, most people haven't, yet he singles me out trying to make me look a tw*t. | |||
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"Why do women say one thing, mean another thing and then do something completely different ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() So men don't actually listen then? | |||
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"Why do women say one thing, mean another thing and then do something completely different ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() He did with Lilith though. | |||
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"Fook knows. Women baffle me. Swear I shoulda been a bloke. Men ain't that easy either lol were just as hard work ![]() ![]() That famous saying cant live with and cant live without | |||
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"Why do women say one thing, mean another thing and then do something completely different ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Of course some listen and some dont it's the same with women also it's a weird world we live in | |||
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"Why do women say one thing, mean another thing and then do something completely different ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Some men don’t listen when asked for an example ![]() | |||
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"Why do women say one thing, mean another thing and then do something completely different ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() It is a weird world indeed ![]() | |||
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"Why do women say one thing, mean another thing and then do something completely different ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() True blood ? | |||
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" That's just men being men, red blooded males they are going to admire the woman's body if it's there to admire and vice versa to women we all do it. Especially on this site I've never seen so many naked women in my life how can you not look. This is a typical thing with some women ( not all ) where if you dont show anything it means your not interested anymore or if you do then your perving lol men just cant win. Omg this post makes my head hurt. They’ve said something about how men don’t listen and you’ve not listed and gone off on a tangent about nudity. Also humans have the same kind of blood male and female. No one is telling you not to look on this website. You’re best just not trying to make points Op. " I didnt just go off topic part of the context was about men looking at women's breasts so I answered if it's not for you and your heads hurting then best way to solve that is to enter a new topic room no one has to chat here or even give there opinion but if you do then dont moan about it it's your choice to chat here | |||
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"Why do women say one thing, mean another thing and then do something completely different ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Hi queen sorry I did see your question and there is an example I could use but if I use it then I say something I was asked not to tell anyone. But a poor example I will use is a woman asks you to do something, you do it and it's not 100% right or right in her eyes then it's wrong | |||
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"Why do women say one thing, mean another thing and then do something completely different ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() I dont think he intended on doing that and you dont look like a tw*t at all you gave your opinion and he replied with his. Dont be offended with him questioning what you said, it's one of these moments when peoples opinions are different | |||
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"Is it too late for the fire extinguisher to put the OP's flames out? ![]() ![]() ![]() Monkeeeeey to the rescue ![]() | |||
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"Is it too late for the fire extinguisher to put the OP's flames out? ![]() ![]() ![]() Nah I dont need it lol I started it to see how different peoples opinions are and to see how feisty people become I learn alot from these forums as I am studying psychology so it's good to see how it plays out | |||
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"Is it too late for the fire extinguisher to put the OP's flames out? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Who you rescuing ![]() | |||
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"Why do women say one thing, mean another thing and then do something completely different ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Nope Jewish folklore. Lilith was Adam's first wife and they were both created from the earth equally by God but she was exiled from Eden for refusing to submit to Adam and refusing to "lay beneath him" so God had to make him a new wife from one of his ribs. She was often represented by a snake which suggests a different meaning to Eve being tempted by a snake to eat forbidden fruit ![]() | |||
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"Is it too late for the fire extinguisher to put the OP's flames out? ![]() ![]() ![]() It was your expressed opinion that many women said one thing, then did another, based on one experience of a mate. I think the impression of a broad sweeping generalisation got more negative responses ![]() | |||
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"Why do women say one thing, mean another thing and then do something completely different ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() *sighs*, I thought you had watched True Blood too ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Is it too late for the fire extinguisher to put the OP's flames out? ![]() ![]() ![]() You can't use anything you find here in your studies, have you not seen the warning disclaimer? | |||
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"Is it too late for the fire extinguisher to put the OP's flames out? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() positive or negative responses is still good because it's always good to see how people react when either confronted or they disagree with what's said | |||
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"Is it too late for the fire extinguisher to put the OP's flames out? ![]() ![]() ![]() That doesn't include topics in the forums that's information on peoples page in the forums is different | |||
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"Is it too late for the fire extinguisher to put the OP's flames out? ![]() ![]() ![]() He was joking ![]() | |||
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"Why do women say one thing, mean another thing and then do something completely different ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() This. ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Why do women say one thing, mean another thing and then do something completely different ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() He has now got 88 people at last count, adding threads to his post ![]() | |||
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" That's just men being men, red blooded males they are going to admire the woman's body if it's there to admire and vice versa to women we all do it. Especially on this site I've never seen so many naked women in my life how can you not look. This is a typical thing with some women ( not all ) where if you dont show anything it means your not interested anymore or if you do then your perving lol men just cant win. Omg this post makes my head hurt. They’ve said something about how men don’t listen and you’ve not listed and gone off on a tangent about nudity. Also humans have the same kind of blood male and female. No one is telling you not to look on this website. You’re best just not trying to make points Op. I didnt just go off topic part of the context was about men looking at women's breasts so I answered if it's not for you and your heads hurting then best way to solve that is to enter a new topic room no one has to chat here or even give there opinion but if you do then dont moan about it it's your choice to chat here " Oh no, I like it here, I’ve changed my mind again. I’m not really the one moaning, your post is a moan. | |||
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"Is it too late for the fire extinguisher to put the OP's flames out? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() But a well formulated balanced theoretical question would give more balanced views for 'study' surely ? | |||
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"Why do women say one thing, mean another thing and then do something completely different ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() He could have 88 blocks and no shags ![]() | |||
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"Why do women say one thing, mean another thing and then do something completely different ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() in this thread alone I can see who are the dominant one and who just follow it's great to read because you can see who has a strong personality | |||
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"Fab is a terrible place to study psychology. Most people will just wind you up to skew results. Or this wasn’t a social study and that’s an excuse. " Dammit ... don't tell him my master strategy ![]() | |||
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"Why do women say one thing, mean another thing and then do something completely different ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() I probably have more than 88 blocks the more I speak lol but oh well | |||
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"Why do women say one thing, mean another thing and then do something completely different ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() I doubt it, I am only teasing ![]() | |||
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"Why do women say one thing, mean another thing and then do something completely different ![]() ![]() ![]() Clearly you just need to keep up ![]() | |||
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"Fab is a terrible place to study psychology. Most people will just wind you up to skew results. Or this wasn’t a social study and that’s an excuse. Dammit ... don't tell him my master strategy ![]() Sorry for revealing secrets oh master of the wind up. I think I also mistakenly revealed my strong personality... or perhaps appeared to be a moaner but it takes a good guy to make me moan ![]() | |||
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"Fab is a terrible place to study psychology. Most people will just wind you up to skew results. Or this wasn’t a social study and that’s an excuse. Dammit ... don't tell him my master strategy ![]() ![]() Monkey notes this down in his research notes | |||
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"Is it too late for the fire extinguisher to put the OP's flames out? ![]() ![]() ![]() Atleast you're not studying law ![]() | |||
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"Why do men not listen and say things like this? I say what I mean but people hear what they want: I told a guy “no thanks” very politely yesterday. He took that to mean “send another 6 messages”. Now I’m sure he’s going to whinge that he tried and conversation went dead or he got blocked by another mean woman. Your post is stereotypical nonsense ( I mean that ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Why do women say one thing, mean another thing and then do something completely different ![]() ![]() ![]() Because they say something like "that's ok" mean "it's not ok but it's not worth the drama or hassle if I speak up" then they realise that actually they're worth more than being taken for a cunt so do the opposite. P | |||
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"Why do women say one thing, mean another thing and then do something completely different ![]() ![]() ![]() Oh god yeah. We're taught from an early age that saying what we mean gets us hassle, so we smooth the situation over and escape. If other people would take us at our word and not bitch when we justifiably have issues with them, maybe being straightforward would be easier. | |||
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"Why do women say one thing, mean another thing and then do something completely different ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() I know lol but it's true tho I'm not going to suit everyone and vice versa | |||
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"I'm a very literal person, which also has it's problems lol but find the men more often than not interpret what I'm saying to what they want to hear, then are surprised by the outcome!! So personally can't help you OP " Thanks suki | |||
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"Why do women say one thing, mean another thing and then do something completely different ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Lol eye rolling now | |||
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"Why do women say one thing, mean another thing and then do something completely different ![]() ![]() ![]() A good example. Also women frequently change their minds dependant on whims, their moods at the time or a whole host of other factors so it's very hard often for men to keep track of what a woman will want at a given time or realise what they want right at this instant may differ wildly from what they want in 20 minutes time? Whereas men often associate frequently changing your mind and changing it back again as being perceived by their peers as indecisive or weak so will sometimes go too far the other way and stick resolutely to their guns despite having doubts to avoid this. B | |||
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"Why do women say one thing, mean another thing and then do something completely different ![]() ![]() ![]() Maybe the whims are that she’s realised she shouldn’t have said yes or she suddenly realised he did say something that made he uncomfortable or he suddenly seemed pushier now she said she would meet.. it’s not just a whim, it’s usually down to thinking things over and making their mind up. But I know many women who are the way you’ve attributed to men. Women don’t all wishy washy change their minds for no reason, irs usually because we are taught to say yes and just please others and then we think about it or discuss with a friend to figure out why we feel uncomfortable | |||
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"Why do women say one thing, mean another thing and then do something completely different ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() You’re just winding people up now not even trying to do research. Study the effects of why and how women are taught to say yes and why they do it. It’s down to societal expectations and women trying to break free of them. Not down to them trying to confuse the brains of men lol | |||
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"Why do women say one thing, mean another thing and then do something completely different ![]() ![]() ![]() Quite possibly, but in this case these aren't the whims I speak of which do exist, but actually the 'other factors' such as a big change in their lives, stuff affecting plans, them receiving more info on what was previously an outline only etc etc. Incidentally this is applicable to anything obviously, not just about whether they would want to meet someone from Fab! B | |||
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"Sorry guys but if your going to be offended then dont join in with the topic it's as simple as that. you dont have to be here in this room but if you are then please stop moaning about it if you dont like what others say because you have chose to participate in it so you have to deal with what you read " I'm afraid it's a public forum, and if you're going to be offensive, you're going to have to deal with people being offended. | |||
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"Why do women say one thing, mean another thing and then do something completely different ![]() ![]() ![]() There’s a ‘some’ missing from that sentence and change ‘women’ to ‘people’. FTFY | |||
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"Sorry guys but if your going to be offended then dont join in with the topic it's as simple as that. you dont have to be here in this room but if you are then please stop moaning about it if you dont like what others say because you have chose to participate in it so you have to deal with what you read I'm afraid it's a public forum, and if you're going to be offensive, you're going to have to deal with people being offended. " Yeah I know its public and yes it may offend some but like I said they dont have to be in this forum there is plenty more rooms | |||
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"Sorry guys but if your going to be offended then dont join in with the topic it's as simple as that. you dont have to be here in this room but if you are then please stop moaning about it if you dont like what others say because you have chose to participate in it so you have to deal with what you read I'm afraid it's a public forum, and if you're going to be offensive, you're going to have to deal with people being offended. Yeah I know its public and yes it may offend some but like I said they dont have to be in this forum there is plenty more rooms " Do you think someone is holding these poor people at knifepoint and forcing them to comment here? ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Sorry guys but if your going to be offended then dont join in with the topic it's as simple as that. you dont have to be here in this room but if you are then please stop moaning about it if you dont like what others say because you have chose to participate in it so you have to deal with what you read I'm afraid it's a public forum, and if you're going to be offensive, you're going to have to deal with people being offended. Yeah I know its public and yes it may offend some but like I said they dont have to be in this forum there is plenty more rooms Do you think someone is holding these poor people at knifepoint and forcing them to comment here? ![]() ![]() ![]() Sorry I was busy taking people's freedom ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Sorry guys but if your going to be offended then dont join in with the topic it's as simple as that. you dont have to be here in this room but if you are then please stop moaning about it if you dont like what others say because you have chose to participate in it so you have to deal with what you read I'm afraid it's a public forum, and if you're going to be offensive, you're going to have to deal with people being offended. Yeah I know its public and yes it may offend some but like I said they dont have to be in this forum there is plenty more rooms Do you think someone is holding these poor people at knifepoint and forcing them to comment here? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() So it's you!? You're holding them at gunpoint and forcing them to comment then saying they don't need to comment if they're offended? That's some sadistic shit OP! | |||
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"Sorry guys but if your going to be offended then dont join in with the topic it's as simple as that. you dont have to be here in this room but if you are then please stop moaning about it if you dont like what others say because you have chose to participate in it so you have to deal with what you read I'm afraid it's a public forum, and if you're going to be offensive, you're going to have to deal with people being offended. Yeah I know its public and yes it may offend some but like I said they dont have to be in this forum there is plenty more rooms Do you think someone is holding these poor people at knifepoint and forcing them to comment here? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Lmfao ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Why do women say one thing, mean another thing and then do something completely different ![]() ![]() ![]() . Of course ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Sorry guys but if your going to be offended then dont join in with the topic it's as simple as that. you dont have to be here in this room but if you are then please stop moaning about it if you dont like what others say because you have chose to participate in it so you have to deal with what you read I'm afraid it's a public forum, and if you're going to be offensive, you're going to have to deal with people being offended. Yeah I know its public and yes it may offend some but like I said they dont have to be in this forum there is plenty more rooms Do you think someone is holding these poor people at knifepoint and forcing them to comment here? ![]() ![]() ![]() Save meeeeeeee | |||
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"Why do women say one thing, mean another thing and then do something completely different ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() So your example is, you do something wrong and it's the woman's fault that you didn't do it right? ![]() | |||
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