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Sir Geoffrey Boycott

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

Geoffrey has his knighthood but some objections from groups opposed to domestic violence.. justified or not?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

He is a great yorkshireman a legend of his sport

And as direct speaking a man as you will see

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's long overdue and well deserved.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

I think long overdue for him. I do not think David Beckham is worthy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Geoffrey has his knighthood but some objections from groups opposed to domestic violence.. justified or not?"

Very good question. I was pleased to hear he'd been given the knighthood, but had forgotten that side of his nature. Maybe an unwise choice by Mrs May.

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By *edmark07Man
over a year ago

liverpool

Both him and Ian Botham are receiving honours yet both have a record for domestic violence. Tbh I dont agree with the honours list. Outdated remnant of an empire we should be embarrassed about but surely if your going to have one there are more worthy ppl

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

im so against giving knighthoods to sportsmen at all, they should be reserved for people who have changed the world, what did he ever do apert from hit a ball with a stick, al be it very well, did he invent the cure for cancer?

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By *innie The MinxWoman
over a year ago

Under the Duvet

It gives out the message that DV is ok, if you're good at something else as well as battering your partner...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A persons character and how they conduct themselves should be taken into consideration when giving out knighthoods, not just their achievements in a specific field

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By *edmark07Man
over a year ago

liverpool


"im so against giving knighthoods to sportsmen at all, they should be reserved for people who have changed the world, what did he ever do apert from hit a ball with a stick, al be it very well, did he invent the cure for cancer?"

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By *edmark07Man
over a year ago

liverpool


"It gives out the message that DV is ok, if you're good at something else as well as battering your partner..."

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By *innie The MinxWoman
over a year ago

Under the Duvet


"A persons character and how they conduct themselves should be taken into consideration when giving out knighthoods, not just their achievements in a specific field "

Agree

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

I am not sure that knighthoods should only be for those changing the world. He was a fantastic sportsman and now an exceptional commentator. Served cricket for 70 years or so. Not sure it says that DV is ok either. He was in court and it was dealt with. Are there other prizes for changing the world. Nobel prize ? I am not sure. Domestic Violence is abhorrent by the way.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

Not sure we should be embarrassed about the Empire either.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"A persons character and how they conduct themselves should be taken into consideration when giving out knighthoods, not just their achievements in a specific field "
you think original knights in amour weren't cunts

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"A persons character and how they conduct themselves should be taken into consideration when giving out knighthoods, not just their achievements in a specific field you think original knights in amour weren't cunts"

Say it how you see it

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

I can't be sure but maybe his knighthood was long overdue because of his conviction..

Many said he should of got it earlier

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Absolutely disgusted by this award.

This is a man who was found guilty of domestic abuse. He protested his innocence and appealed - and lost.

Theresa May, who has done a lot if good work with her support for domestic abuse charities has made a huge mistake with the awarding of this honour. It undermines everything she has done in this area and brings the honours system into disrepute.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"A persons character and how they conduct themselves should be taken into consideration when giving out knighthoods, not just their achievements in a specific field you think original knights in amour weren't cunts"

So what? because we gave honours to cunts 700 years ago we should still judge people by those standards?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"A persons character and how they conduct themselves should be taken into consideration when giving out knighthoods, not just their achievements in a specific field you think original knights in amour weren't cunts

So what? because we gave honours to cunts 700 years ago we should still judge people by those standards? "
tradition otherwise why bother

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By *edmark07Man
over a year ago

liverpool


"A persons character and how they conduct themselves should be taken into consideration when giving out knighthoods, not just their achievements in a specific field you think original knights in amour weren't cunts"

I'm pretty sure knights had a code of conduct and honour originally but ffs its 2019 we shouldn't have a royal family or an honours list or hereditary peerage because of your birth.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think the Honours list should be reserved for those 'Ordinary People' who have done amazing things or dedicated their lives to help others etc. Totally against the likes of Boycott and Beckham types bring rewarded!

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By *os19Man
over a year ago

Edmonton

Like some on this thread have said I too feel the honours for Knighthoods , MBE , OBE , CBE is a little outdated.To give it to Geoffrey Boycott who has been found guilty of domestic violence is not clever.As has been pointed out Ian Botham also got a knighthood and has a record of domestic violence he did do a lot of good charity work with his walks from John O’Groats to Lands End so I guess people that decide who get these awards only remember the cricket.I am a snooker fan and John Higgins has a MBE yet was banned from snooker for 6 months for matching fixing yet Ronnie O’Sullivan who has failed a drug test hasn’t got a MBE I can’t work it out.Let the sporting stars go into their respective sports hall of fame is my opinion.

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By *edmark07Man
over a year ago

liverpool


"Like some on this thread have said I too feel the honours for Knighthoods , MBE , OBE , CBE is a little outdated.To give it to Geoffrey Boycott who has been found guilty of domestic violence is not clever.As has been pointed out Ian Botham also got a knighthood and has a record of domestic violence he did do a lot of good charity work with his walks from John O’Groats to Lands End so I guess people that decide who get these awards only remember the cricket.I am a snooker fan and John Higgins has a MBE yet was banned from snooker for 6 months for matching fixing yet Ronnie O’Sullivan who has failed a drug test hasn’t got a MBE I can’t work it out.Let the sporting stars go into their respective sports hall of fame is my opinion."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"A persons character and how they conduct themselves should be taken into consideration when giving out knighthoods, not just their achievements in a specific field you think original knights in amour weren't cunts

I'm pretty sure knights had a code of conduct and honour originally but ffs its 2019 we shouldn't have a royal family or an honours list or hereditary peerage because of your birth. "
they did but who knows what they got upto when the doors closed at home no press coverage in them days

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

So is it about how we treat the perpetrators of DV?

Once convicted should they always be punished? Or is that the courts job?

I dunno.

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By *edmark07Man
over a year ago

liverpool


"So is it about how we treat the perpetrators of DV?

Once convicted should they always be punished? Or is that the courts job?

I dunno. "

Punished no

Honoured no

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By *lanemikeMan
over a year ago

Bolton

Honour Geoffrey, a great Yorkshire man.

Leave out the political correctness. Just not needed. There are some mean spirited people around.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

My take on sportsmen and women is this. There are lots of brain surgeons but not many that can do what Tiger Woods or Serena Williams can do. They deserve the money they earn in my opinion.

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"A persons character and how they conduct themselves should be taken into consideration when giving out knighthoods, not just their achievements in a specific field "

Well said, only caught a bit of it, but he was being interviewed on the radio and was questioned about the DV and he said' that was 25 years ago love'

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Absolutely disgusted by this award.

This is a man who was found guilty of domestic abuse. He protested his innocence and appealed - and lost.

Theresa May, who has done a lot if good work with her support for domestic abuse charities has made a huge mistake with the awarding of this honour. It undermines everything she has done in this area and brings the honours system into disrepute."

Absolutely agree x

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By *innie The MinxWoman
over a year ago

Under the Duvet


"Honour Geoffrey, a great Yorkshire man.

Leave out the political correctness. Just not needed. There are some mean spirited people around. "

Political correctness?

Hardly.

I find it hard to equate "great Yorkshireman" with a conviction for DV.

Violent coward and bully maybe.

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"Honour Geoffrey, a great Yorkshire man.

Leave out the political correctness. Just not needed. There are some mean spirited people around.

Political correctness?

Hardly.

I find it hard to equate "great Yorkshireman" with a conviction for DV.

Violent coward and bully maybe.

"

Yes definitely, horrible man.

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By *lanemikeMan
over a year ago

Bolton


"Honour Geoffrey, a great Yorkshire man.

Leave out the political correctness. Just not needed. There are some mean spirited people around.

Political correctness?

Hardly.

I find it hard to equate "great Yorkshireman" with a conviction for DV.

Violent coward and bully maybe."

Who gives a fig about that? Have to ask, have you met him? I am pleased he has been honoured, not a minute too soon. Need more like him who speak their mind.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What does it really matter if it doesn't affect you personally? I fail to see why so many people are shitting their pants over it all.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What does it really matter if it doesn't affect you personally? I fail to see why so many people are shitting their pants over it all. "

You could say that about anything, most of the news doesn’t effect us personally, but people can still having an opinion and vent if they so desire.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"Honour Geoffrey, a great Yorkshire man.

Leave out the political correctness. Just not needed. There are some mean spirited people around.

Political correctness?

Hardly.

I find it hard to equate "great Yorkshireman" with a conviction for DV.

Violent coward and bully maybe.

Who gives a fig about that? Have to ask, have you met him? I am pleased he has been honoured, not a minute too soon. Need more like him who speak their mind. "

Quite a lot of people give a fig about whether a man has been convicted of punching his partner at least 20 times.

Whether it should be taken in to account when awarding a knighthood is one thing but casually not giving a fig is something else.

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By *lanemikeMan
over a year ago

Bolton


"What does it really matter if it doesn't affect you personally? I fail to see why so many people are shitting their pants over it all.

You could say that about anything, most of the news doesn’t effect us personally, but people can still having an opinion and vent if they so desire."

Agree 100%.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think certain things should be taken in to account when givin honours and yes a conviction for domestic violence particularly when he's unapologetic is one of those things.

I'm saddened but not in the least bit surprised by the people who seem to think kicking the shit out of your partner is the sort of trivalilty that should be easily overlooked.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What does it really matter if it doesn't affect you personally? I fail to see why so many people are shitting their pants over it all.

You could say that about anything, most of the news doesn’t effect us personally, but people can still having an opinion and vent if they so desire."

Sure people can people are entitled to be bitter and angry just go for it however its not big or cleaver and 99% of the time just caused by jealousy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What does it really matter if it doesn't affect you personally? I fail to see why so many people are shitting their pants over it all.

You could say that about anything, most of the news doesn’t effect us personally, but people can still having an opinion and vent if they so desire.

Sure people can people are entitled to be bitter and angry just go for it however its not big or cleaver and 99% of the time just caused by jealousy. "

Bizarre reply, you think all the opinions on this thread are based in jealousy and nothing to do with his previous behaviour ?!

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By *aughtyNipplesWoman
over a year ago

newport, shrops


"Honour Geoffrey, a great Yorkshire man.

Leave out the political correctness. Just not needed. There are some mean spirited people around.

Political correctness?

Hardly.

I find it hard to equate "great Yorkshireman" with a conviction for DV.

Violent coward and bully maybe.

Who gives a fig about that? Have to ask, have you met him? I am pleased he has been honoured, not a minute too soon. Need more like him who speak their mind. "

Yes it's ok to speak his mind... JUST so long as you agree with him or he'll prob bring out his coercive control tactics.

Now I don't know much of this man, but what I do know about is DV perps. I work with them, to rehabilitate them

Again, I can not comment on his journey or the details of his past BUT

What I will say is the MESSAGE this honour is giving society, giving to our current and next generation is down right dangerous...

Misogyny and patriarchal views are bloody damn hard to break down at the best of times, yet the powers above are STILL rewarding DV perps is not helpful.

Yes I note the honour is for sport but if an average Joe is denied a job in a factory because of a criminal record, how the hell can we condone a criminal getting an honour??????

As a strong independent feminist, who reads the police reports and CPS and victim statements I can not and will not condone any abusive behaviour to any individual!

And you 'don't give a fig' about it, well I hope for your sake you don't have a daughter or have to experience anyone close going thru DV or maybe you wouldn't give a fig' about them either, being the female, a second class citizen, clearly....

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By *lanemikeMan
over a year ago

Bolton

The DV you are on about took place over 20 years ago. No need to drag it out when he is very rightly honoured for all he has done for cricket. Not everyone's cup of tea but let us just congratulate him for his honour.

Yes, I do have a daughter.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The DV you are on about took place over 20 years ago. No need to drag it out when he is very rightly honoured for all he has done for cricket. Not everyone's cup of tea but let us just congratulate him for his honour.

Yes, I do have a daughter. "

Congratulations.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Honour Geoffrey, a great Yorkshire man.

Leave out the political correctness. Just not needed. There are some mean spirited people around.

Political correctness?

Hardly.

I find it hard to equate "great Yorkshireman" with a conviction for DV.

Violent coward and bully maybe.

Who gives a fig about that? Have to ask, have you met him? I am pleased he has been honoured, not a minute too soon. Need more like him who speak their mind.

Yes it's ok to speak his mind... JUST so long as you agree with him or he'll prob bring out his coercive control tactics.

Now I don't know much of this man, but what I do know about is DV perps. I work with them, to rehabilitate them

Again, I can not comment on his journey or the details of his past BUT

What I will say is the MESSAGE this honour is giving society, giving to our current and next generation is down right dangerous...

Misogyny and patriarchal views are bloody damn hard to break down at the best of times, yet the powers above are STILL rewarding DV perps is not helpful.

Yes I note the honour is for sport but if an average Joe is denied a job in a factory because of a criminal record, how the hell can we condone a criminal getting an honour??????

As a strong independent feminist, who reads the police reports and CPS and victim statements I can not and will not condone any abusive behaviour to any individual!

And you 'don't give a fig' about it, well I hope for your sake you don't have a daughter or have to experience anyone close going thru DV or maybe you wouldn't give a fig' about them either, being the female, a second class citizen, clearly.... "
no i dont have a daughter but do have a little sister its still my job to destroy any man who causes her harm

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The DV you are on about took place over 20 years ago. No need to drag it out when he is very rightly honoured for all he has done for cricket. Not everyone's cup of tea but let us just congratulate him for his honour.

Yes, I do have a daughter. "

And if I kick the shit out of her, leave her face coveted in bruising, in 20 years time you'll have forgotten?

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By *lanemikeMan
over a year ago

Bolton

What a crass, stupid thing to say.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Anyone who's been through DV will disagree with this honour. Being a great sportsman & commentator doesn't negate shitty behaviour towards other humans.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

All people are flawed. If a potential Knight of the realm had a speeding ticket then are they condoning speeding..after all, speed kills doesn't it..

There would not be honours..

Nobody is squeakey clean.. someone always be offended.. if a daughter was killed by a speeder then would you want a convicted speeder getting a knighthood ?

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By *lanemikeMan
over a year ago

Bolton

Just feel Geoffrey should be allowed to enjoy his honour. I say to him, well done!! Not the sort of chap to take too much notice of the nay sayers. Good on him.

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By *aughtyNipplesWoman
over a year ago

newport, shrops


"The DV you are on about took place over 20 years ago. No need to drag it out when he is very rightly honoured for all he has done for cricket. Not everyone's cup of tea but let us just congratulate him for his honour.

Yes, I do have a daughter. "

Cuts, bruises, broken bones may heal

Nightmares, fears, psychological abuse scars does not.

Then there is the issue of any children present who witness this abuse...they are scared, they blame themselves which is no burden for young children. Along with the danger that they then copy the learned behaviour to get what they want.

The fact you are supportive of this man, shows you *probably* share similar beliefs he may hold about relationships....just saying...

As others have said, if you know or have seen others go thru it, you are less tolerant and accepting to this behaviour.

Regardless 2 months or 20years ago...

A push is a push.

A slap is a slap.

A beating is a beating.

Control is control.

Financial abuse is financial abuse.

Marital rapé is rapé

Etc etc

No excuses...it takes a shitty human to do anything unwanted to another...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What a crass, stupid thing to say....."

But you think we should forgive and forget what boycott did. Yet turn it around and you cause us of being crass.

Is it fair to say that DV is okay if you are a fan of the perpetrator and/or the victim isn't a relative of yours?

Or am I missing something?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"All people are flawed. If a potential Knight of the realm had a speeding ticket then are they condoning speeding..after all, speed kills doesn't it..

There would not be honours..

Nobody is squeakey clean.. someone always be offended.. if a daughter was killed by a speeder then would you want a convicted speeder getting a knighthood ?"

I think comparing a speeding fine to domestic violence is a pretty weird comparison?

But no if someone has been convicted of death by dangerous driving of course they shouldn't appear on a future honours list

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By *aughtyNipplesWoman
over a year ago

newport, shrops


"What a crass, stupid thing to say....."

Not a stupid thing for the victim. That is just belittling them and their worth.

Of course the fact your not prepared to see another person's point of view makes me suspect you may hold traditional male privilege views.

...women should be seen and not heard?

...I am the man of the house?

...she is my property?

...what I say is final? Or else?

??????????

And before you try to turn the tables, yes I'm not prepared to condone a DV peep excuses. I have already said I don't know the details of his offence. I am not passing judgement on the man but am passing judgement on the category of any man who acts this way....

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By *lex46TV/TS
over a year ago

Near Wells

Geoffrey Boycott has given a lot of people a lot of pleasure and has dedicated his whole life to one sport.

I don't know much about the honours system but I believe he deserves some recognition for that alone. What would the England cricket team give to have someone like him playing for them now?

He always divided opinion when he was playing and is still doing so.

At the time a lot of people were not happy about his conviction and he always denied it. That doesn't mean he's not guilty but it makes you wonder why he keeps denying it.

The most politically correct organisation (The BBC) even gave him his job back years after. I don't condone violence of any description but if the BBC can move forward I'm sure the rest of us can.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

I think he was found guilty in France...

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"What a crass, stupid thing to say.....

Not a stupid thing for the victim. That is just belittling them and their worth.

Of course the fact your not prepared to see another person's point of view makes me suspect you may hold traditional male privilege views.

...women should be seen and not heard?

...I am the man of the house?

...she is my property?

...what I say is final? Or else?

??????????

And before you try to turn the tables, yes I'm not prepared to condone a DV peep excuses. I have already said I don't know the details of his offence. I am not passing judgement on the man but am passing judgement on the category of any man who acts this way...."

You speak a lot of sense, thank you for saying it so eloquently.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

Do males or females convicted of offences ever serve their time..? can they be rehabilitated.. if they are rehabilitated then can they be honoured ?

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"Do males or females convicted of offences ever serve their time..? can they be rehabilitated.. if they are rehabilitated then can they be honoured ?

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No I don't think they should be honoured. Disgraceful.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"Do males or females convicted of offences ever serve their time..? can they be rehabilitated.. if they are rehabilitated then can they be honoured ?

No I don't think they should be honoured. Disgraceful."

Can they be rehabilitated?

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

Labour have asked the new PM to consider withdrawing the honour .. and police allegedly attended a domestic dispute at his house recently..

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By *aughtyNipplesWoman
over a year ago

newport, shrops


"Geoffrey Boycott has given a lot of people a lot of pleasure and has dedicated his whole life to one sport.

I don't know much about the honours system but I believe he deserves some recognition for that alone. What would the England cricket team give to have someone like him playing for them now?

He always divided opinion when he was playing and is still doing so.

At the time a lot of people were not happy about his conviction and he always denied it. That doesn't mean he's not guilty but it makes you wonder why he keeps denying it.

The most politically correct organisation (The BBC) even gave him his job back years after. I don't condone violence of any description but if the BBC can move forward I'm sure the rest of us can. "

Well working with sex offenders, domestic abusers and other offences...if I had a pound for every time they 'doth protest their innocence' then I would no no longer need to work

...most DV'ers are narcissists. They will do and use any tactic to blame, deny, minimise and throw off track anyone who cottons onto their actions.

Of course, I understand why, it's the hardest thing in the world to admit we make mistakes, to admit our flaws and that our morals are not admirable.

Now don't get me even started on the BBC...they have no ethical standards or role model attributes...knowing sex offences happen under their noses....tsk

Arguement denied!

My point isn't that this person hasn't done good in their area of expertise. My argument is this shadow which is cast over him isnt helping society move forward out of the neanderthal ages and if anything is condoning it and undoing years and years of education and advocacy that everyone EVERYONE has equal rights and to be treated with the same respect.

Now on another hand, DV is sooooooooooooooo incredibly hard to convict so if this person was found guilty, there must have been a stack of evidence for it to withstand...

Answer to another poster... rehabilitation will depend on the individual and their journey, do they accept they have done wrong, do they want to make reparation, do they look at the victims perspective, ultimately do they want to move forward?. Given a few bits I've seen in the media (of course they all have an angle on their reports), it seems he is nonchalant about the critisim...so I would suggest he is not rehabilitated and not prepared to accept responsibility....

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over a year ago


"Do males or females convicted of offences ever serve their time..? can they be rehabilitated.. if they are rehabilitated then can they be honoured ?

No I don't think they should be honoured. Disgraceful.

Can they be rehabilitated? "

Of course. Almost all criminals can be.

But being rehabilitated isn't what this is about is it?

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By *lex D.Man
over a year ago

London

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By *a LunaWoman
over a year ago

South Wales

Shouldn’t have been put forward for it frankly.

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By *oan of DArcCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow


"A persons character and how they conduct themselves should be taken into consideration when giving out knighthoods, not just their achievements in a specific field

Well said, only caught a bit of it, but he was being interviewed on the radio and was questioned about the DV and he said' that was 25 years ago love'"

This is my main grievance, not the knighthood but his response to legitimate questions about a conviction for domestic abuse.

Any right minded person abhors domestic abuse, and that's the tack he should have taken whilst protesting his innocence, rather than 'poor me'.

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By *lex46TV/TS
over a year ago

Near Wells


"Geoffrey Boycott has given a lot of people a lot of pleasure and has dedicated his whole life to one sport.

I don't know much about the honours system but I believe he deserves some recognition for that alone. What would the England cricket team give to have someone like him playing for them now?

He always divided opinion when he was playing and is still doing so.

At the time a lot of people were not happy about his conviction and he always denied it. That doesn't mean he's not guilty but it makes you wonder why he keeps denying it.

The most politically correct organisation (The BBC) even gave him his job back years after. I don't condone violence of any description but if the BBC can move forward I'm sure the rest of us can.

Well working with sex offenders, domestic abusers and other offences...if I had a pound for every time they 'doth protest their innocence' then I would no no longer need to work

...most DV'ers are narcissists. They will do and use any tactic to blame, deny, minimise and throw off track anyone who cottons onto their actions.

Of course, I understand why, it's the hardest thing in the world to admit we make mistakes, to admit our flaws and that our morals are not admirable.

Now don't get me even started on the BBC...they have no ethical standards or role model attributes...knowing sex offences happen under their noses....tsk

Arguement denied!

My point isn't that this person hasn't done good in their area of expertise. My argument is this shadow which is cast over him isnt helping society move forward out of the neanderthal ages and if anything is condoning it and undoing years and years of education and advocacy that everyone EVERYONE has equal rights and to be treated with the same respect.

Now on another hand, DV is sooooooooooooooo incredibly hard to convict so if this person was found guilty, there must have been a stack of evidence for it to withstand...

Answer to another poster... rehabilitation will depend on the individual and their journey, do they accept they have done wrong, do they want to make reparation, do they look at the victims perspective, ultimately do they want to move forward?. Given a few bits I've seen in the media (of course they all have an angle on their reports), it seems he is nonchalant about the critisim...so I would suggest he is not rehabilitated and not prepared to accept responsibility...."

Fair enough, I haven't an argument against that, especially about the BBC.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We are sure that there are many Kinghts of the Realm who have committed many offences that we don’t know about.

Is it the fact that you get caught out worse than many who do the same but are never brought to book?

Who knows.

Either way that’s life and he is Sir Geoffrey.

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By *den-Valley-coupleCouple
over a year ago

Cumbria

Nobody with only for criminal record should be allowed to be a knight of the realm of hold any titles...

Also just because you speak from the hip doesn't make you genuine seem a bit of a twat but I have meet the guy may be cool..

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

I am not sure that raking over old ashes does anything to help though. This all happened decades ago and he was sentenced then. At nearly 80 I feel sorry for what should be a lovely moment for a great Yorkshire man being tarnished. I feel sorry for his ex partner and that was decades ago. I wonder if she wants it all dragged up..

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By *lorious hole bs16Man
over a year ago

Bristol

There is something about the arrogant twat that I like...

Not a fan of the honours list, nor was Theresa May when Cameron resigned..

Dont think she thought this one through as she lends her name to a number of DV charities...

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By *lanemikeMan
over a year ago

Bolton


"We are sure that there are many Kinghts of the Realm who have committed many offences that we don’t know about.

Is it the fact that you get caught out worse than many who do the same but are never brought to book?

Who knows.

Either way that’s life and he is Sir Geoffrey."

All part of life, just get on with it. Do not understand why the miserable whingeing people wish to drag stuff out of the past and spoil SIR Geoffrey's honour which he richly deserves. He is a "character" unlike many of these so celebrities who often lack latent and are nonentities.

As a point of fact, was he actually convicted of any crime, or were they merely allegations? I genuinely cannot remember.

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By *lanemikeMan
over a year ago

Bolton


"I am not sure that raking over old ashes does anything to help though. This all happened decades ago and he was sentenced then. At nearly 80 I feel sorry for what should be a lovely moment for a great Yorkshire man being tarnished. I feel sorry for his ex partner and that was decades ago. I wonder if she wants it all dragged up..

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

It was one of Theresa Mays mistakes. He has honour and reputation from his career - that is enough in this instance

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over a year ago


"I am not sure that raking over old ashes does anything to help though. This all happened decades ago and he was sentenced then. At nearly 80 I feel sorry for what should be a lovely moment for a great Yorkshire man being tarnished. I feel sorry for his ex partner and that was decades ago. I wonder if she wants it all dragged up..

"

He could of avoided it be if raked up by not having beaten his partner up. Or by having the foresight to decline the award knowing he'd come under scrutiny. But as he so eloquently demonstrated he doesn't give a toss about those talking about it so I'm not sure why anyone would feel sympathy for this moment being supposedly tarnished.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"We are sure that there are many Kinghts of the Realm who have committed many offences that we don’t know about.

Is it the fact that you get caught out worse than many who do the same but are never brought to book?

Who knows.

Either way that’s life and he is Sir Geoffrey.

All part of life, just get on with it. Do not understand why the miserable whingeing people wish to drag stuff out of the past and spoil SIR Geoffrey's honour which he richly deserves. He is a "character" unlike many of these so celebrities who often lack latent and are nonentities.

As a point of fact, was he actually convicted of any crime, or were they merely allegations? I genuinely cannot remember. "

I read that he was found guilty and was given a three month suspended sentence by a French court

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We are sure that there are many Kinghts of the Realm who have committed many offences that we don’t know about.

Is it the fact that you get caught out worse than many who do the same but are never brought to book?

Who knows.

Either way that’s life and he is Sir Geoffrey.

All part of life, just get on with it. Do not understand why the miserable whingeing people wish to drag stuff out of the past and spoil SIR Geoffrey's honour which he richly deserves. He is a "character" unlike many of these so celebrities who often lack latent and are nonentities.

As a point of fact, was he actually convicted of any crime, or were they merely allegations? I genuinely cannot remember. "

A question. Is kicking the shot out of anyone but in this case specifically your partner ever okay?

And at what point does it become something in the past to be consigned to history.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

Generally after the court case although isn't there sometimes when the police tell a new partner about their past...not sure if that is true though

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By *lanemikeMan
over a year ago

Bolton


"We are sure that there are many Kinghts of the Realm who have committed many offences that we don’t know about.

Is it the fact that you get caught out worse than many who do the same but are never brought to book?

Who knows.

Either way that’s life and he is Sir Geoffrey.

All part of life, just get on with it. Do not understand why the miserable whingeing people wish to drag stuff out of the past and spoil SIR Geoffrey's honour which he richly deserves. He is a "character" unlike many of these so celebrities who often lack latent and are nonentities.

As a point of fact, was he actually convicted of any crime, or were they merely allegations? I genuinely cannot remember.

I read that he was found guilty and was given a three month suspended sentence by a French court"

Three months suspended sentence...!! The Court cannot have viewed it as very serious crime.

Just no need to drag this stuff up. Certainly a "Marmite" character but at 78 he should be allowed to enjoy his honour.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We are sure that there are many Kinghts of the Realm who have committed many offences that we don’t know about.

Is it the fact that you get caught out worse than many who do the same but are never brought to book?

Who knows.

Either way that’s life and he is Sir Geoffrey.

All part of life, just get on with it. Do not understand why the miserable whingeing people wish to drag stuff out of the past and spoil SIR Geoffrey's honour which he richly deserves. He is a "character" unlike many of these so celebrities who often lack latent and are nonentities.

As a point of fact, was he actually convicted of any crime, or were they merely allegations? I genuinely cannot remember.

I read that he was found guilty and was given a three month suspended sentence by a French court

Three months suspended sentence...!! The Court cannot have viewed it as very serious crime.

Just no need to drag this stuff up. Certainly a "Marmite" character but at 78 he should be allowed to enjoy his honour. "

Mauve if he'd had a bit more dignity when asked a valid question people wouldn't be "dragging this stuff up"

Ad for your dismissal of this nit being a very serious offence words fail me.

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By *oney to the beeWoman
over a year ago

Manchester


"We are sure that there are many Kinghts of the Realm who have committed many offences that we don’t know about.

Is it the fact that you get caught out worse than many who do the same but are never brought to book?

Who knows.

Either way that’s life and he is Sir Geoffrey.

All part of life, just get on with it. Do not understand why the miserable whingeing people wish to drag stuff out of the past and spoil SIR Geoffrey's honour which he richly deserves. He is a "character" unlike many of these so celebrities who often lack latent and are nonentities.

As a point of fact, was he actually convicted of any crime, or were they merely allegations? I genuinely cannot remember.

I read that he was found guilty and was given a three month suspended sentence by a French court

Three months suspended sentence...!! The Court cannot have viewed it as very serious crime.

Just no need to drag this stuff up. Certainly a "Marmite" character but at 78 he should be allowed to enjoy his honour. "

So if you only assault someone a little bit its ok then?

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By *lanemikeMan
over a year ago

Bolton

""Ad for your dismissal of this nit being a very serious offence words fail me. ""

I did not dismiss it as not being serious, I express no opinion one way or the other. I said the Court probably did not view it very seriously in view of the sentence meted out.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think given that the prorogation of Parliament basically destroyed the chances of getting the bill to improve support for victims of DV this choice of Knighthood isn’t really surprising.

It’s still one of the most minimised crimes. He was found guilty (twice if you include his appeal) of punching someone in the face 20 times.

If he’d done it in the street a suspended sentence and fine would have been seen as unduly lenient, but because it was against his partner it should be forgotten and ignored when it comes to awards.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And the sentence says more about how domestic violence was dealt with 20+ years ago than the incident. The photos of her face say all about the severity of it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"""Ad for your dismissal of this nit being a very serious offence words fail me. ""

I did not dismiss it as not being serious, I express no opinion one way or the other. I said the Court probably did not view it very seriously in view of the sentence meted out. "

Do you think it was a serious crime?

A simple yes or no should suffice

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By *lanemikeMan
over a year ago

Bolton

""" So if you only assault someone a little bit its ok then? """

Did not say that either. There is a time to move on. We have all done things in the past that we have later regretted, I certainly have. There is a time to forgive an move on. There seem to be a few among the "fab" fraternity who consider they have never done a thing wrong and are willing to take the moral high ground and then proceed to lecture lesser mortals who may have lead less than perfect lives.

"" Let him who is without sin caste the first stone.... ""

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

Great batsman he knew how to knock a ball about.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"""" So if you only assault someone a little bit its ok then? """

Did not say that either. There is a time to move on. We have all done things in the past that we have later regretted, I certainly have. There is a time to forgive an move on. There seem to be a few among the "fab" fraternity who consider they have never done a thing wrong and are willing to take the moral high ground and then proceed to lecture lesser mortals who may have lead less than perfect lives.

"" Let him who is without sin caste the first stone.... "" "

In fairness I've never punched my partner in the face 20 times, appealed the decision and 20 odd years on still be unrepentant about it, so truth be told i think I have the highground over boycott on this one

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

....he got the "runs" in the end. Pmsl!

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By *arlomaleMan
over a year ago

darlington

Without checking facts so I may be wrong but didn’t Robert mugabe get a knighthood?? (Off to check google)

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By *arlomaleMan
over a year ago

darlington


"Without checking facts so I may be wrong but didn’t Robert mugabe get a knighthood?? (Off to check google)"
taken off him in 2008

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

Has Philip green still got his?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Has Philip green still got his?"

Yep. Despite the fact he’s the first person to have MPs propose to remove it. After he paid money into the pension scheme it seems they decided to let him keep it.

He’s also not banned from being a company director either despite everything.

The bankers had theirs removed though, Fred Goodwin and James Crosby.

Seems if you have a few hundred mill to pay back a bit of what you raided you get to keep it

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"Do males or females convicted of offences ever serve their time..? can they be rehabilitated.. if they are rehabilitated then can they be honoured ?

No I don't think they should be honoured. Disgraceful.

Can they be rehabilitated? "

That would depend on the individual.

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"A persons character and how they conduct themselves should be taken into consideration when giving out knighthoods, not just their achievements in a specific field

Well said, only caught a bit of it, but he was being interviewed on the radio and was questioned about the DV and he said' that was 25 years ago love'

This is my main grievance, not the knighthood but his response to legitimate questions about a conviction for domestic abuse.

Any right minded person abhors domestic abuse, and that's the tack he should have taken whilst protesting his innocence, rather than 'poor me'."

Yes he should have shown some remorse, he seemed almost proud of what he done.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I couldn't give a rat's arse about his character, his batting, his battering or anybody's opinions on some old dude they've never met but... His interview on radio 4 deserved an award, funniest thing I've heard for ages and that daft old bat didn't know what to say.

Hilarious

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"I am not sure that raking over old ashes does anything to help though. This all happened decades ago and he was sentenced then. At nearly 80 I feel sorry for what should be a lovely moment for a great Yorkshire man being tarnished. I feel sorry for his ex partner and that was decades ago. I wonder if she wants it all dragged up..

"

Maybe not but I doubt she has forgotten it. I can't understand why a 'great Yorkshire man' would batter his partner

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By *ENGUYMan
over a year ago

Hull


"A persons character and how they conduct themselves should be taken into consideration when giving out knighthoods, not just their achievements in a specific field

Well said, only caught a bit of it, but he was being interviewed on the radio and was questioned about the DV and he said' that was 25 years ago love'

This is my main grievance, not the knighthood but his response to legitimate questions about a conviction for domestic abuse.

Any right minded person abhors domestic abuse, and that's the tack he should have taken whilst protesting his innocence, rather than 'poor me'.

Yes he should have shown some remorse, he seemed almost proud of what he done."

I think his reaction on a BBC Radio news programme yesterday morning showed his true character, ie, how he viewed the negativity over his award.

It showed fully just what he's like. It wasn't pretty to hear what he said.

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By *erfumedpornovampireWoman
over a year ago

Swindon


"A persons character and how they conduct themselves should be taken into consideration when giving out knighthoods, not just their achievements in a specific field you think original knights in amour weren't cunts"

You might want to calm down Ser Bronn

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"A persons character and how they conduct themselves should be taken into consideration when giving out knighthoods, not just their achievements in a specific field

Well said, only caught a bit of it, but he was being interviewed on the radio and was questioned about the DV and he said' that was 25 years ago love'

This is my main grievance, not the knighthood but his response to legitimate questions about a conviction for domestic abuse.

Any right minded person abhors domestic abuse, and that's the tack he should have taken whilst protesting his innocence, rather than 'poor me'.

Yes he should have shown some remorse, he seemed almost proud of what he done.

I think his reaction on a BBC Radio news programme yesterday morning showed his true character, ie, how he viewed the negativity over his award.

It showed fully just what he's like. It wasn't pretty to hear what he said."

Yes Iain, he's a complete coward only cowards beat up women, horrible individual.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Honour Geoffrey, a great Yorkshire man.

Leave out the political correctness. Just not needed. There are some mean spirited people around. "

Geoff's a cunt.

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By *aughtyNipplesWoman
over a year ago

newport, shrops


"Honour Geoffrey, a great Yorkshire man.

Leave out the political correctness. Just not needed. There are some mean spirited people around.

Geoff's a cunt."

Second that!

#boycottBoycott

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"Honour Geoffrey, a great Yorkshire man.

Leave out the political correctness. Just not needed. There are some mean spirited people around.

Geoff's a cunt."

Yes Jim, those were the words I was looking for, but was too much of a lady to say them

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By *ENGUYMan
over a year ago

Hull


"I couldn't give a rat's arse about his character, his batting, his battering or anybody's opinions on some old dude they've never met but... His interview on radio 4 deserved an award, funniest thing I've heard for ages and that daft old bat didn't know what to say.

Hilarious "

So, in other words, his interview within which he showed little or no remorse for his past Domestic Violence actions, was in your view, "hilarious"!

What if it had been a female member of your family who was a victim of Boycott's actions? Would you still think good of him?

You should be ashamed of yourself.

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By *ENGUYMan
over a year ago

Hull


"Honour Geoffrey, a great Yorkshire man.

Leave out the political correctness. Just not needed. There are some mean spirited people around.

Geoff's a cunt.

Yes Jim, those were the words I was looking for, but was too much of a lady to say them

"

Subtle, but very true Jim.

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"I couldn't give a rat's arse about his character, his batting, his battering or anybody's opinions on some old dude they've never met but... His interview on radio 4 deserved an award, funniest thing I've heard for ages and that daft old bat didn't know what to say.

Hilarious

So, in other words, his interview within which he showed little or no remorse for his past Domestic Violence actions, was in your view, "hilarious"!

What if it had been a female member of your family who was a victim of Boycott's actions? Would you still think good of him?

You should be ashamed of yourself. "
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Just the fact that they support him would suggest they think it is ok to beat up women, disgusting..

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By *ENGUYMan
over a year ago

Hull


"I couldn't give a rat's arse about his character, his batting, his battering or anybody's opinions on some old dude they've never met but... His interview on radio 4 deserved an award, funniest thing I've heard for ages and that daft old bat didn't know what to say.

Hilarious

So, in other words, his interview within which he showed little or no remorse for his past Domestic Violence actions, was in your view, "hilarious"!

What if it had been a female member of your family who was a victim of Boycott's actions? Would you still think good of him?

You should be ashamed of yourself. ,

Just the fact that they support him would suggest they think it is ok to beat up women, disgusting.."

In my opinion, shared by others I've spoken to over the years, any man who has to revert to striking a woman, regardless of the reason etc, ISN'T A MAN!

They're a BULLY. There is no justification whatsoever. SIMPLE!

Anyone who supports these mindless cretins doesn't deserve any credit either!

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"I couldn't give a rat's arse about his character, his batting, his battering or anybody's opinions on some old dude they've never met but... His interview on radio 4 deserved an award, funniest thing I've heard for ages and that daft old bat didn't know what to say.

Hilarious

So, in other words, his interview within which he showed little or no remorse for his past Domestic Violence actions, was in your view, "hilarious"!

What if it had been a female member of your family who was a victim of Boycott's actions? Would you still think good of him?

You should be ashamed of yourself. ,

Just the fact that they support him would suggest they think it is ok to beat up women, disgusting..

In my opinion, shared by others I've spoken to over the years, any man who has to revert to striking a woman, regardless of the reason etc, ISN'T A MAN!

They're a BULLY. There is no justification whatsoever. SIMPLE!

Anyone who supports these mindless cretins doesn't deserve any credit either!"

Hear hear Iain, maybe those who support him should experience being beaten up and then see if they still want to give him a knighthood

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Apparently he kept getting the runs right up to the end of his career.

The smell must have been unbearable.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Justified ......Andrew Strauss Knighthood that isn’t is slipping under the radar ! Having spent a week in Birmingham Manchester and Leeds viewing the ashes he was all about the World Cup and nothing else.

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By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff


"Justified ......Andrew Strauss Knighthood that isn’t is slipping under the radar ! Having spent a week in Birmingham Manchester and Leeds viewing the ashes he was all about the World Cup and nothing else. "

You left off the bit about his charity he set up in memory of his wife. They had a 'pink' day at one of the days of the previous test. Raised a couple hundred thousand pounds by all accounts.

I can't stand boycott and I love the game, at times. Do sent bother me who wins what as it's so under valued anyway.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As someone who has been lucky enough to have an honor bestowed on me it's one of the most amazing things you can imagine. However with the number that are given people are bound to have opinions on the validity of the ones personal credentials to receive it. I am sure that he has done some good to deserve it.

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By *oan of DArcCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow


"""" So if you only assault someone a little bit its ok then? """

Did not say that either. There is a time to move on. We have all done things in the past that we have later regretted, I certainly have. There is a time to forgive an move on. There seem to be a few among the "fab" fraternity who consider they have never done a thing wrong and are willing to take the moral high ground and then proceed to lecture lesser mortals who may have lead less than perfect lives.

"" Let him who is without sin caste the first stone.... "" "

However none of us have been awarded a knighthood (as far as I know).

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"A persons character and how they conduct themselves should be taken into consideration when giving out knighthoods, not just their achievements in a specific field you think original knights in amour weren't cunts

You might want to calm down Ser Bronn "

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By *lanemikeMan
over a year ago

Bolton


"""" So if you only assault someone a little bit its ok then? """

Did not say that either. There is a time to move on. We have all done things in the past that we have later regretted, I certainly have. There is a time to forgive an move on. There seem to be a few among the "fab" fraternity who consider they have never done a thing wrong and are willing to take the moral high ground and then proceed to lecture lesser mortals who may have lead less than perfect lives.

"" Let him who is without sin caste the first stone.... ""

In fairness I've never punched my partner in the face 20 times, appealed the decision and 20 odd years on still be unrepentant about it, so truth be told i think I have the highground over boycott on this one "

I am sure that is true but I am sure you have committed other sins or indiscretions. As a human none of us is perfect. It is very easy to lecture folk and point out their shortcomings.

My point is SIR Geoffrey should have been allowed to enjoy his honour without the morally righteous dragging up his past. It just was not necessary. He deserved the honour & I wish him well.

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By *ensualMan
over a year ago

Sutton

I will never forgive him for his part in the rebel tour to South Africa, when there was a sporting ban on playing in South Africa. Personally for his support of the racist regime and his abuse of his partner in my view he is not a good human being, and people should not be blinded by his sporting ability.

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"I will never forgive him for his part in the rebel tour to South Africa, when there was a sporting ban on playing in South Africa. Personally for his support of the racist regime and his abuse of his partner in my view he is not a good human being, and people should not be blinded by his sporting ability.

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By *arrapsMan
over a year ago

port talbot

Boycott is the biggest tight fisted, chauvinist, self centred yorkshireman on this planet

Apart from hitting a ball with a piece of willow some 40 years ago , what has he done since then.

Undeserved knighthood... doctors and nurses are more deserving

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Big Geoffrey you da mayn

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By *picknspanMan
over a year ago

North West Leeds

Knighthoods and honours these days are worthless and pointless

So many unworthy people been given the acolades to the detriment of those who should get them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My dad used to try and beat me up as a kid.

Used to hate him for years with a vengeance, but later in life we reconciled and were truly close.

I forgave him.

Each to their own I suppose.

But abhor domestic violence and am no way condoning what Boycott did.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I blame stella

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By *m3232Man
over a year ago

maidenhead

Did he ever admit to it later on or do any charity work to help those who suffered.

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By *oney to the beeWoman
over a year ago

Manchester


"""" So if you only assault someone a little bit its ok then? """

Did not say that either. There is a time to move on. We have all done things in the past that we have later regretted, I certainly have. There is a time to forgive an move on. There seem to be a few among the "fab" fraternity who consider they have never done a thing wrong and are willing to take the moral high ground and then proceed to lecture lesser mortals who may have lead less than perfect lives.

"" Let him who is without sin caste the first stone.... "" "

Says a lot about you it really does if you don't condemn it.

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By *tew008Man
over a year ago

edinburgh


"My dad used to try and beat me up as a kid.

Used to hate him for years with a vengeance, but later in life we reconciled and were truly close.

I forgave him.

Each to their own I suppose.

But abhor domestic violence and am no way condoning what Boycott did."

I had the same and it ended with me beating up dad. We got over everything and are ok now. He was wrong but it’s not unforgivable, need to show some type of remorse, reparations.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

I condemn DV but not sure that means that SGB should not have and enjoy his knighthood..

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By *lanemikeMan
over a year ago

Bolton


"""" So if you only assault someone a little bit its ok then? """

Did not say that either. There is a time to move on. We have all done things in the past that we have later regretted, I certainly have. There is a time to forgive an move on. There seem to be a few among the "fab" fraternity who consider they have never done a thing wrong and are willing to take the moral high ground and then proceed to lecture lesser mortals who may have lead less than perfect lives.

"" Let him who is without sin caste the first stone.... ""

Says a lot about you it really does if you don't condemn it. "

.......and who says I do not condemn it ??? Presumptuous on your part if I may say so.

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By *aughtyNipplesWoman
over a year ago

newport, shrops


"""" So if you only assault someone a little bit its ok then? """

Did not say that either. There is a time to move on. We have all done things in the past that we have later regretted, I certainly have. There is a time to forgive an move on. There seem to be a few among the "fab" fraternity who consider they have never done a thing wrong and are willing to take the moral high ground and then proceed to lecture lesser mortals who may have lead less than perfect lives.

"" Let him who is without sin caste the first stone.... ""

Says a lot about you it really does if you don't condemn it.

.......and who says I do not condemn it ??? Presumptuous on your part if I may say so. "

I do believe your posts were giving the vibe that you show little value in the victims of DV (maybe because they are 'just insignificant, little women'?) and I recall that you feel things should be 'forgotten and moved on'.

Your words are from someone with none or little empathy and clearly never been in the position of being hurt, harmed or abused by another.

...if you have or had been, your posts would have a very different tone and content.

Maybe re-read your posts because to me, I see your posts getting people's backs up and I'm sooooo glad to see society don't all hold views like you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"""" So if you only assault someone a little bit its ok then? """

Did not say that either. There is a time to move on. We have all done things in the past that we have later regretted, I certainly have. There is a time to forgive an move on. There seem to be a few among the "fab" fraternity who consider they have never done a thing wrong and are willing to take the moral high ground and then proceed to lecture lesser mortals who may have lead less than perfect lives.

"" Let him who is without sin caste the first stone.... ""

Says a lot about you it really does if you don't condemn it.

.......and who says I do not condemn it ??? Presumptuous on your part if I may say so.

I do believe your posts were giving the vibe that you show little value in the victims of DV (maybe because they are 'just insignificant, little women'?) and I recall that you feel things should be 'forgotten and moved on'."

Couldn't agree more it just looks as though his sporting achievements count the fact he severely battered and was convicted of assault on a partner doesn't matter.

Thanks god we have a block button here.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

To be fair...the pictures were not nice.. two black eyes and nose.. pretty aweful..

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"To be fair...the pictures were not nice.. two black eyes and nose.. pretty aweful..

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Disgraceful, poor lady.

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By *ilkenWoman
over a year ago

Manchester


"To be fair...the pictures were not nice.. two black eyes and nose.. pretty aweful..

"

Its ok to do that according to some though just as long as they entertained them on the sports field.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Girls girls girls calm down nobody can actually believe its ok to do that to a lass they cant do

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"Girls girls girls calm down nobody can actually believe its ok to do that to a lass they cant do"

I think there are some who choose to overlook it though

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Girls girls girls calm down nobody can actually believe its ok to do that to a lass they cant do

I think there are some who choose to overlook it though "

End of the day may picked her fave cricketer and 2 guys who failed there job one a brexit negotiator for the deal she got rejected and 1 who told her to have the last general election its all who ya know

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"Girls girls girls calm down nobody can actually believe its ok to do that to a lass they cant do

I think there are some who choose to overlook it though

End of the day may picked her fave cricketer and 2 guys who failed there job one a brexit negotiator for the deal she got rejected and 1 who told her to have the last general election its all who ya know"

Spose so...

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford

I don't believe in knighthoods for sports people or musicians, unless they have done work for charity or something similar, it just makes a mockery of the whole system.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"""" So if you only assault someone a little bit its ok then? """

Did not say that either. There is a time to move on. We have all done things in the past that we have later regretted, I certainly have. There is a time to forgive an move on. There seem to be a few among the "fab" fraternity who consider they have never done a thing wrong and are willing to take the moral high ground and then proceed to lecture lesser mortals who may have lead less than perfect lives.

"" Let him who is without sin caste the first stone.... ""

Says a lot about you it really does if you don't condemn it.

.......and who says I do not condemn it ??? Presumptuous on your part if I may say so. "

I've asked the question outright at least once and you've ignored it. You've not condemned it in a single post on this thread. Even when I posed the hypothetical question what if it was your daughter you still didn't condemn it just the asking if the question

There's a reason people are being presumptive... So I'll ask again do you think it is acceptable to hit a woman? And if it's not what is the criteria/timescale for forgiveness

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

There is an awards committee.. I wonder if SGB was blocked years ago because of the court case and now sufficient time has passed.. He could of been knighted 30 years ago ..

You only get 16-18 for murder..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"""" So if you only assault someone a little bit its ok then? """

Did not say that either. There is a time to move on. We have all done things in the past that we have later regretted, I certainly have. There is a time to forgive an move on. There seem to be a few among the "fab" fraternity who consider they have never done a thing wrong and are willing to take the moral high ground and then proceed to lecture lesser mortals who may have lead less than perfect lives.

"" Let him who is without sin caste the first stone.... ""

Says a lot about you it really does if you don't condemn it.

.......and who says I do not condemn it ??? Presumptuous on your part if I may say so.

I've asked the question outright at least once and you've ignored it. You've not condemned it in a single post on this thread. Even when I posed the hypothetical question what if it was your daughter you still didn't condemn it just the asking if the question

There's a reason people are being presumptive... So I'll ask again do you think it is acceptable to hit a woman? And if it's not what is the criteria/timescale for forgiveness "

Just out of interest, do you believe hitting a woman is a worse crime than hitting a man?

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"There is an awards committee.. I wonder if SGB was blocked years ago because of the court case and now sufficient time has passed.. He could of been knighted 30 years ago ..

You only get 16-18 for murder.. "

I would imagine it was the way he spoke on the radio, maybe if he had been more remorseful about his violent behaviour, some people may have a different view, not me, may I add.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

I was seriously assaulted by two separate girls on two separate occasions..

I have forgiven..

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

One I deserved..

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

That really makes me think.. why do I accept that I deserved it.. ?

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By *ob rodMan
over a year ago

lancaster

There were some questions about the original case

Apparently she tried to extort money from him

And appeal was all in French that he didn’t understand

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I listen to his commentary all the time. Maybe I'm too young, but I don't get the legendary status.

He's rude to the female commentators, I heard Isa audibly groan during the last test.

Aggers takes the piss out of him royally and I've always thought he wasn't a well loved member of the TMS team.

Maybe I'm wrong. Don't wish to offend anyone. Especially the good people of Yorkshire. But he's no Freddie Flintoff that's for sure.

Now there's a bloke I'd love to share a few pints with...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"""" So if you only assault someone a little bit its ok then? """

Did not say that either. There is a time to move on. We have all done things in the past that we have later regretted, I certainly have. There is a time to forgive an move on. There seem to be a few among the "fab" fraternity who consider they have never done a thing wrong and are willing to take the moral high ground and then proceed to lecture lesser mortals who may have lead less than perfect lives.

"" Let him who is without sin caste the first stone.... ""

Says a lot about you it really does if you don't condemn it.

.......and who says I do not condemn it ??? Presumptuous on your part if I may say so.

I've asked the question outright at least once and you've ignored it. You've not condemned it in a single post on this thread. Even when I posed the hypothetical question what if it was your daughter you still didn't condemn it just the asking if the question

There's a reason people are being presumptive... So I'll ask again do you think it is acceptable to hit a woman? And if it's not what is the criteria/timescale for forgiveness

Just out of interest, do you believe hitting a woman is a worse crime than hitting a man?"

I abhor violence. I'm not a fan of grading one sort of violence as worse than another. Domestic violence is rarely if ever just physical, there are the emotional and psychological aspects that make it a truly heinious crime and those people (because it's not just men) responsible are vermin. Complete and utter scum.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"""" So if you only assault someone a little bit its ok then? """

Did not say that either. There is a time to move on. We have all done things in the past that we have later regretted, I certainly have. There is a time to forgive an move on. There seem to be a few among the "fab" fraternity who consider they have never done a thing wrong and are willing to take the moral high ground and then proceed to lecture lesser mortals who may have lead less than perfect lives.

"" Let him who is without sin caste the first stone.... ""

Says a lot about you it really does if you don't condemn it.

.......and who says I do not condemn it ??? Presumptuous on your part if I may say so.

I've asked the question outright at least once and you've ignored it. You've not condemned it in a single post on this thread. Even when I posed the hypothetical question what if it was your daughter you still didn't condemn it just the asking if the question

There's a reason people are being presumptive... So I'll ask again do you think it is acceptable to hit a woman? And if it's not what is the criteria/timescale for forgiveness

Just out of interest, do you believe hitting a woman is a worse crime than hitting a man?

I abhor violence. I'm not a fan of grading one sort of violence as worse than another. Domestic violence is rarely if ever just physical, there are the emotional and psychological aspects that make it a truly heinious crime and those people (because it's not just men) responsible are vermin. Complete and utter scum.

"

Does it make you really angry ?

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By *aughtyNipplesWoman
over a year ago

newport, shrops


"""" So if you only assault someone a little bit its ok then? """

Did not say that either. There is a time to move on. We have all done things in the past that we have later regretted, I certainly have. There is a time to forgive an move on. There seem to be a few among the "fab" fraternity who consider they have never done a thing wrong and are willing to take the moral high ground and then proceed to lecture lesser mortals who may have lead less than perfect lives.

"" Let him who is without sin caste the first stone.... ""

Says a lot about you it really does if you don't condemn it.

.......and who says I do not condemn it ??? Presumptuous on your part if I may say so.

I've asked the question outright at least once and you've ignored it. You've not condemned it in a single post on this thread. Even when I posed the hypothetical question what if it was your daughter you still didn't condemn it just the asking if the question

There's a reason people are being presumptive... So I'll ask again do you think it is acceptable to hit a woman? And if it's not what is the criteria/timescale for forgiveness

Just out of interest, do you believe hitting a woman is a worse crime than hitting a man?

I abhor violence. I'm not a fan of grading one sort of violence as worse than another. Domestic violence is rarely if ever just physical, there are the emotional and psychological aspects that make it a truly heinious crime and those people (because it's not just men) responsible are vermin. Complete and utter scum.

Does it make you really angry ?"

Anger is a regular and normal emotion. Can be healthy to feel it.

However it is how we react and behaviour under that stress and situation....

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By *aughtyNipplesWoman
over a year ago

newport, shrops


"That really makes me think.. why do I accept that I deserved it.. ? "

Nobody deserves it..it's a breach of human rights.

I'm pretty sure, unless its regulated and in a boxing ring that nobody WANTS to be assured.

I'm sorry that you also had to endure that behaviour, whilst some can forgive, the forgetting is harder and a simple trigger from something in everyday life drags back painful memories, even years and years later, but if we all had the beliefs of planeman then we should forget and move on...

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By *aughtyNipplesWoman
over a year ago

newport, shrops

Assaulted not assured! Sorry!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"""" So if you only assault someone a little bit its ok then? """

Did not say that either. There is a time to move on. We have all done things in the past that we have later regretted, I certainly have. There is a time to forgive an move on. There seem to be a few among the "fab" fraternity who consider they have never done a thing wrong and are willing to take the moral high ground and then proceed to lecture lesser mortals who may have lead less than perfect lives.

"" Let him who is without sin caste the first stone.... ""

Says a lot about you it really does if you don't condemn it.

.......and who says I do not condemn it ??? Presumptuous on your part if I may say so.

I've asked the question outright at least once and you've ignored it. You've not condemned it in a single post on this thread. Even when I posed the hypothetical question what if it was your daughter you still didn't condemn it just the asking if the question

There's a reason people are being presumptive... So I'll ask again do you think it is acceptable to hit a woman? And if it's not what is the criteria/timescale for forgiveness

Just out of interest, do you believe hitting a woman is a worse crime than hitting a man?

I abhor violence. I'm not a fan of grading one sort of violence as worse than another. Domestic violence is rarely if ever just physical, there are the emotional and psychological aspects that make it a truly heinious crime and those people (because it's not just men) responsible are vermin. Complete and utter scum.

Does it make you really angry ?"

Not really? It makes me sad for the victims and I feel nothing but contempt for the perpetrators.

Why do you ask?

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

I sat on my sofa and she had a mug of hot tea. She got me hard that I felt momentarily dazed.. I could feel burning.. it scalded me..

I never blamed her ..

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

I remember looking at her .. the mug handle never broke and she held it..

I really thought I deserved it for years

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

If she had an award I would not object..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

He should not get it

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

I think they blocked it for 30 years but he should now get it. He has served his penalty

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By *lanemikeMan
over a year ago

Bolton


"""" So if you only assault someone a little bit its ok then? """

Did not say that either. There is a time to move on. We have all done things in the past that we have later regretted, I certainly have. There is a time to forgive an move on. There seem to be a few among the "fab" fraternity who consider they have never done a thing wrong and are willing to take the moral high ground and then proceed to lecture lesser mortals who may have lead less than perfect lives.

"" Let him who is without sin caste the first stone.... ""

Says a lot about you it really does if you don't condemn it.

.......and who says I do not condemn it ??? Presumptuous on your part if I may say so.

I've asked the question outright at least once and you've ignored it. You've not condemned it in a single post on this thread. Even when I posed the hypothetical question what if it was your daughter you still didn't condemn it just the asking if the question

There's a reason people are being presumptive... So I'll ask again do you think it is acceptable to hit a woman? And if it's not what is the criteria/timescale for forgiveness "

I repeat """ .......and who says I do not condemn it ??? Presumptuous on your part if I may say so. " """ Suggest you read what I have written and not try to second guess what is on my mind.

""" So I'll ask again do you think it is acceptable to hit a woman? """

I will leave you to answer your own question.

SIR Geoffrey Boycott is a controversial character but no reason to deny him an honour or allow him to enjoy being the recipient.

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By *lanemikeMan
over a year ago

Bolton


"""" So if you only assault someone a little bit its ok then? """

Did not say that either. There is a time to move on. We have all done things in the past that we have later regretted, I certainly have. There is a time to forgive an move on. There seem to be a few among the "fab" fraternity who consider they have never done a thing wrong and are willing to take the moral high ground and then proceed to lecture lesser mortals who may have lead less than perfect lives.

"" Let him who is without sin caste the first stone.... ""

Says a lot about you it really does if you don't condemn it.

.......and who says I do not condemn it ??? Presumptuous on your part if I may say so.

I do believe your posts were giving the vibe that you show little value in the victims of DV (maybe because they are 'just insignificant, little women'?) and I recall that you feel things should be 'forgotten and moved on'.

Couldn't agree more it just looks as though his sporting achievements count the fact he severely battered and was convicted of assault on a partner doesn't matter.

Thanks god we have a block button here. "

I wonder if Sir Geoffrey even knows you have blocked him......???!!!

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

There is a committee that looks at the honours and advises on conduct ..

Have they made a mistake ?

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"There is a committee that looks at the honours and advises on conduct ..

Have they made a mistake ? "

Yes..

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

I suppose he could throw his medal at his wife if his pie and chips weren’t ready on time. Better than a bat, I guess. I don’t think perpetrators of domestic violence should be honoured.

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"I suppose he could throw his medal at his wife if his pie and chips weren’t ready on time. Better than a bat, I guess. I don’t think perpetrators of domestic violence should be honoured. "

Quite right, it doesn't matter how long ago it was.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There were some questions about the original case

Apparently she tried to extort money from him

And appeal was all in French that he didn’t understand

"

The original case was tested in the appeal court and he lost again.

It’s a pity he wasn’t a highly paid sportsman, and BBC employee, who could afford good lawyers...

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

Theresa May must have known something we don't. She would not give an honour lightly

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"Theresa May must have known something we don't. She would not give an honour lightly "

Maybe she didn't bother to read the court case....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"""" So if you only assault someone a little bit its ok then? """

Did not say that either. There is a time to move on. We have all done things in the past that we have later regretted, I certainly have. There is a time to forgive an move on. There seem to be a few among the "fab" fraternity who consider they have never done a thing wrong and are willing to take the moral high ground and then proceed to lecture lesser mortals who may have lead less than perfect lives.

"" Let him who is without sin caste the first stone.... ""

Says a lot about you it really does if you don't condemn it.

.......and who says I do not condemn it ??? Presumptuous on your part if I may say so.

I do believe your posts were giving the vibe that you show little value in the victims of DV (maybe because they are 'just insignificant, little women'?) and I recall that you feel things should be 'forgotten and moved on'.

Couldn't agree more it just looks as though his sporting achievements count the fact he severely battered and was convicted of assault on a partner doesn't matter.

Thanks god we have a block button here.

I wonder if Sir Geoffrey even knows you have blocked him......???!!! "
he couldn't give a toss!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Theresa May must have known something we don't. She would not give an honour lightly "

Yes I mean it's not like she's been accused of cronyism for many of the names on the list is it

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"Theresa May must have known something we don't. She would not give an honour lightly

Yes I mean it's not like she's been accused of cronyism for many of the names on the list is it "

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury


"Theresa May must have known something we don't. She would not give an honour lightly "

The same woman that tripped and dropped all those documents and evidence against Sir leon Brittan into a shredder?

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over a year ago

Boycott, Botham and anyone who thinks beating a woman is OK are utter tossers and deserve nothing!

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"Theresa May must have known something we don't. She would not give an honour lightly

The same woman that tripped and dropped all those documents and evidence against Sir leon Brittan into a shredder?"
Love

Haha

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"Theresa May must have known something we don't. She would not give an honour lightly

The same woman that tripped and dropped all those documents and evidence against Sir leon Brittan into a shredder?Love

Haha "

It's those leopard print shoes, they're always tripping people up.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury


"Geoffrey has his knighthood but some objections from groups opposed to domestic violence.. justified or not?"

Yeah. He's fine really.

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