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"I must be a coward... It's a war zone. " It really is not aware zone. | |||
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"No it's not.. stabbings galore.. in Essex and London.. I will not go there any more.. it used to be a nice place.. just misery now" London is a big place, like anywhere, nice areas ... and dodgy areas ... even Worthing is like that | |||
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"No it's not.. stabbings galore.. in Essex and London.. I will not go there any more.. it used to be a nice place.. just misery now" By galore... What's the quantitative data tell you? | |||
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"I must be a coward... It's a war zone. On what do you base that assumption?" Stabbings galore every single night | |||
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"No it's not.. stabbings galore.. in Essex and London.. I will not go there any more.. it used to be a nice place.. just misery now By galore... What's the quantitative data tell you? " You need quantitative data to avoid a knife ? | |||
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"Wuss!" I think I am.. and a frightened one | |||
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"To be fair, you don't read about many normal people being stabbed in London. Mainly ones involved in dodgy dealings or gangs. " Normal people? Please define | |||
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"No it's not.. stabbings galore.. in Essex and London.. I will not go there any more.. it used to be a nice place.. just misery now By galore... What's the quantitative data tell you? You need quantitative data to avoid a knife ?" In order to determine whether knife crime is rising, or whether this is media hysteria with an agenda, looking at data is crucial | |||
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"No it's not.. stabbings galore.. in Essex and London.. I will not go there any more.. it used to be a nice place.. just misery now By galore... What's the quantitative data tell you? You need quantitative data to avoid a knife ? In order to determine whether knife crime is rising, or whether this is media hysteria with an agenda, looking at data is crucial " So it's not rising ? | |||
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"To be fair, you don't read about many normal people being stabbed in London. Mainly ones involved in dodgy dealings or gangs. " This. Very few victims of knife crime are random. | |||
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"No it's not.. stabbings galore.. in Essex and London.. I will not go there any more.. it used to be a nice place.. just misery now By galore... What's the quantitative data tell you? You need quantitative data to avoid a knife ? In order to determine whether knife crime is rising, or whether this is media hysteria with an agenda, looking at data is crucial So it's not rising ?" Over what period and in what context? You're making the claim, please provide evidence. (preferably in the form of crime statistics) | |||
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"I must be a coward... It's a war zone. You've obviously never been in a war zone " Served in Iraq, Afghanistan and Kosovo | |||
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"To be fair, you don't read about many normal people being stabbed in London. Mainly ones involved in dodgy dealings or gangs. Normal people? Please define " Normal people being those not in gangs and going about their normal lives. These attacks are rarely random on Joe public. | |||
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"No it's not.. stabbings galore.. in Essex and London.. I will not go there any more.. it used to be a nice place.. just misery now By galore... What's the quantitative data tell you? You need quantitative data to avoid a knife ? In order to determine whether knife crime is rising, or whether this is media hysteria with an agenda, looking at data is crucial So it's not rising ? Over what period and in what context? You're making the claim, please provide evidence. (preferably in the form of crime statistics) " Google is your friend | |||
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" In order to determine whether knife crime is rising, or whether this is media hysteria with an agenda, looking at data is crucial " It really is. I dont watch the news or read newspapers or watch TV etc .. And I have never heard of anyone I know of being stabbed or heard of it happening in my area. I hope I never do! | |||
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"Like all major cities, avoid the shit areas and you're unlikely to have any trouble. " Exactly right! | |||
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"Like all major cities, avoid the shit areas and you're unlikely to have any trouble. " That was the case ten years ago.. the stabbings are everywhere now | |||
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"No it's not.. stabbings galore.. in Essex and London.. I will not go there any more.. it used to be a nice place.. just misery now By galore... What's the quantitative data tell you? You need quantitative data to avoid a knife ? In order to determine whether knife crime is rising, or whether this is media hysteria with an agenda, looking at data is crucial So it's not rising ? Over what period and in what context? You're making the claim, please provide evidence. (preferably in the form of crime statistics) Google is your friend " Google is full of rubbish sources. You make the claim, you provide the evidence. | |||
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"You started a thread nt so long ago about immigrants, my guess is that there is an agenda here. " Please explain that comment | |||
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"Like all major cities, avoid the shit areas and you're unlikely to have any trouble. That was the case ten years ago.. the stabbings are everywhere now" Are they? Or care they centred around certain areas? | |||
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"I lived in London for over 39 years and only recently moved tut North...for this who say its grim up here are liar's. It was the best decision financially, physically and mentally I ever made.... " I was born and bred up North,and wouldn't want to live anywhere else It's not grim at all | |||
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"I lived in London for over 39 years and only recently moved tut North...for this who say its grim up here are liar's. It was the best decision financially, physically and mentally I ever made.... I was born and bred up North,and wouldn't want to live anywhere else It's not grim at all" Although it did help moving and keeping my London wage! Lol | |||
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"Like all major cities, avoid the shit areas and you're unlikely to have any trouble. That was the case ten years ago.. the stabbings are everywhere now Are they? Or care they centred around certain areas?" No longer confined .. indiscriminate now . So was it ok when confined to certain areas ? | |||
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"Like all major cities, avoid the shit areas and you're unlikely to have any trouble. That was the case ten years ago.. the stabbings are everywhere now" Everywhere? Really? Not where I come from. In London. Family still there. No local stabbings. | |||
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"Like all major cities, avoid the shit areas and you're unlikely to have any trouble. That was the case ten years ago.. the stabbings are everywhere now Are they? Or care they centred around certain areas? No longer confined .. indiscriminate now . So was it ok when confined to certain areas ?" Indiscriminate? Again, based on what evidence? | |||
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"I live in a county next to London. I will not visit it. I am afraid to walk those streets.. " coward lol | |||
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"Like all major cities, avoid the shit areas and you're unlikely to have any trouble. That was the case ten years ago.. the stabbings are everywhere now Are they? Or care they centred around certain areas? No longer confined .. indiscriminate now . So was it ok when confined to certain areas ? Indiscriminate? Again, based on what evidence?" I'm guessing that completely random stabbings are extremely rare. Would like to see your evidence please OP. | |||
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"I live in a county next to London. I will not visit it. I am afraid to walk those streets.. coward lol " I am.. | |||
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"You started a thread nt so long ago about immigrants, my guess is that there is an agenda here. Please explain that comment " I think it's self explanatory. THe vast majority of knife crime is gang related, gangs primarily include many from disadvantaged backgrounds whichave obviously include ethnic minorities. You have started a thread with some very provocative statements. Recently you were posting about sending back immigrants and stating that you didn't care if they died which perhaps unfairly I took as anti-immigrant which brings us back to your provocative post about war zones and am issue that primarily effects ethnic minorities. Hope that clears it up. And of course an apology if ice completely got it wrong | |||
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"So stabbings are ok as long as it in certain areas ?" No. We just would be interested to see your evidence of random stabbings? Linked to gang culture is a different issue that would unlikely affect anyone that isn't directly involved. Such as (I assume) yourself. | |||
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"I live in a county next to London. I will not visit it. I am afraid to walk those streets.. coward lol I am.. " I'm a londoner and I'm OK I drink all night and sleep all day | |||
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"So stabbings are ok as long as it in certain areas ? No. We just would be interested to see your evidence of random stabbings? Linked to gang culture is a different issue that would unlikely affect anyone that isn't directly involved. Such as (I assume) yourself. " So it's fine if it's gang related ? | |||
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"Bike Monkey I am calling you out. Please explain your comment " He did. We are calling you out. Provide your evidence. | |||
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"Bike Monkey I am calling you out. Please explain your comment " I think his entire comment was an explanation tbh... | |||
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"So stabbings are ok as long as it in certain areas ?" Has anyone said anything remotely close to that? | |||
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"So stabbings are ok as long as it in certain areas ? No. We just would be interested to see your evidence of random stabbings? Linked to gang culture is a different issue that would unlikely affect anyone that isn't directly involved. Such as (I assume) yourself. " So your assumtion is that is all gang related.. ? | |||
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"So stabbings are ok as long as it in certain areas ? No. We just would be interested to see your evidence of random stabbings? Linked to gang culture is a different issue that would unlikely affect anyone that isn't directly involved. Such as (I assume) yourself. So it's fine if it's gang related ?" Again. I didn't say that. Just don't get why you are concerned for your safety. Is what I think I said quite clearly. | |||
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"So stabbings are ok as long as it in certain areas ? No. We just would be interested to see your evidence of random stabbings? Linked to gang culture is a different issue that would unlikely affect anyone that isn't directly involved. Such as (I assume) yourself. So it's fine if it's gang related ?" No one is saying that | |||
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"I must be a coward... It's a war zone. " I’m from Devon and now live in London. I used to live in Birmingham. Loved both cities, not moving from London anytime soon as have a great life here In the beautiful suburbs. Yes, you are a coward. I’ve been to countries that are closer to a war zone and London is nothing like that. | |||
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"We’re from stoke on Trent. We both absolutely love London, never had any problems actually find it less intimidating than stoke. No one in London seems to realise anyone else exists they’re too busy getting on with their own lives. Incidentally we’re there on the 17/18th of this month if anyone wants a meet? " I'm sure I've heard parts of Stoke described as a war zone in the media. | |||
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"Bike Monkey I am calling you out. Please explain your comment I think his entire comment was an explanation tbh..." yes he explained it well | |||
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"No it's not.. stabbings galore.. in Essex and London.. I will not go there any more.. it used to be a nice place.. just misery now" I’ve never even seen a fight or any crime committed. Back in Devon I saw plenty. | |||
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"Let Bike Monkey speak.. He intimated that I had an agenda about migrants " He spoke above. | |||
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"Bike Monkey I am calling you out. Please explain your comment " Your not very fun and friendly like your profile suggests...that's a fact. | |||
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"To be fair, you don't read about many normal people being stabbed in London. Mainly ones involved in dodgy dealings or gangs. " This is exactly it. | |||
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"We’re from stoke on Trent. We both absolutely love London, never had any problems actually find it less intimidating than stoke. No one in London seems to realise anyone else exists they’re too busy getting on with their own lives. Incidentally we’re there on the 17/18th of this month if anyone wants a meet? " I love your wife's bum, just saying that for a friend | |||
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"Bike Monkey I am calling you out. Please explain your comment Your not very fun and friendly like your profile suggests...that's a fact. " lol | |||
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"If there was a bell i wonder if you'd be the end... scare mongering like this is what makes things 100 times worse.. " No.. stabbings make it worse | |||
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"I must be a coward... It's a war zone. You've obviously never been in a war zone Served in Iraq, Afghanistan and Kosovo" and having been there and experienced it, for you to use the words you’ve used to describe London is just ludicrous ! | |||
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"You started a thread nt so long ago about immigrants, my guess is that there is an agenda here. I feel as safe today in London as I did when I moved there 12 years ago and as safe as I did walking around supposed no go zones when I lived in Brum. Bike Manky said this thread was about immigrants. It's about stabbings" No he said a thread of yours in the forums was about immigrants not this one | |||
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"I must be a coward... It's a war zone. You've obviously never been in a war zone Served in Iraq, Afghanistan and Kosovo and having been there and experienced it, for you to use the words you’ve used to describe London is just ludicrous ! " | |||
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"Reports of American werewolves have been greatly exaggerated in case you're worried about them too." Stay on the path, don't go on the moor | |||
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"No it's not.. stabbings galore.. in Essex and London.. I will not go there any more.. it used to be a nice place.. just misery now I’ve never even seen a fight or any crime committed. Back in Devon I saw plenty. " Union St on a Saturday night, huh! | |||
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"I have sympathy for everyone being stabbed.. It's not a race issue it's a knife issue" It’s usually gang related. Not many random people get attacked. | |||
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"You started a thread nt so long ago about immigrants, my guess is that there is an agenda here. I feel as safe today in London as I did when I moved there 12 years ago and as safe as I did walking around supposed no go zones when I lived in Brum. Bike Manky said this thread was about immigrants. It's about stabbings" I didn't. I suggested that your deliberate provocative comparisons to a war zone and declaring that london wasn't safe to visit possibly had an agenda based on previous comments like. | |||
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"No it's not.. stabbings galore.. in Essex and London.. I will not go there any more.. it used to be a nice place.. just misery now I’ve never even seen a fight or any crime committed. Back in Devon I saw plenty. Union St on a Saturday night, huh!" Yep, exactly. Plymouth I saw loads, London and Birmingham none. | |||
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"No it's not.. stabbings galore.. in Essex and London.. I will not go there any more.. it used to be a nice place.. just misery now I’ve never even seen a fight or any crime committed. Back in Devon I saw plenty. Union St on a Saturday night, huh! Yep, exactly. Plymouth I saw loads, London and Birmingham none. " Yep, same | |||
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"I have sympathy for everyone being stabbed.. It's not a race issue it's a knife issue It’s usually gang related. Not many random people get attacked. " We all keep saying exactly that but he doesn't seem to listen and wants to single Bike Monkey out ... just odd | |||
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"I must be a coward... It's a war zone. You've obviously never been in a war zone Served in Iraq, Afghanistan and Kosovo and having been there and experienced it, for you to use the words you’ve used to describe London is just ludicrous ! " Precisely! I quite like walking round London Not thinking that every single window has a sniper in it. | |||
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"You started a thread nt so long ago about immigrants, my guess is that there is an agenda here. I feel as safe today in London as I did when I moved there 12 years ago and as safe as I did walking around supposed no go zones when I lived in Brum. Bike Manky said this thread was about immigrants. It's about stabbings I didn't. I suggested that your deliberate provocative comparisons to a war zone and declaring that london wasn't safe to visit possibly had an agenda based on previous comments like. " And you are mistaken my friend.. | |||
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"Reports of American werewolves have been greatly exaggerated in case you're worried about them too. Stay on the path, don't go on the moor" I reckon he left the path so he could shower with Jenny Agutter. | |||
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"So if it gang related it's ok? Where is your compassion" Who said it was ok? I have just never seen any crime in London. I’m 48 and never even been in a police station or called the police for anything. I fly all over the world too to some dodgy places. | |||
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" You are more likely to die crossing the road. " This Far more people die on london's roads than get murdered | |||
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"I’ve lived in London for 36 years, 32 of those full time. I’ve never ever felt unsafe here Unfortunately the youth of today think it’s cool to carry knives but it is not stabbings every day that describe and the majority of those that happen are normally person in person known to each other. You are more likely to die crossing the road. " it's just the media hyping the negative as usual and people jumping on the bandwagon of the negativity the media create everyday........ I say ban newspapers and news broadcasts they're trying to depress people and it's working | |||
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"I’ve lived in London for 36 years, 32 of those full time. I’ve never ever felt unsafe here Unfortunately the youth of today think it’s cool to carry knives but it is not stabbings every day that describe and the majority of those that happen are normally person in person known to each other. You are more likely to die crossing the road. The way I cross a road and rush around, I’m surprised it’s not happened to me yet. " | |||
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"Is the ratio changing ?" What ratio? What numbers/stats are you looking at, OP? | |||
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"Is the ratio changing ?" of men to women here? No | |||
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"I’ve lived in London for 36 years, 32 of those full time. I’ve never ever felt unsafe here Unfortunately the youth of today think it’s cool to carry knives but it is not stabbings every day that describe and the majority of those that happen are normally person in person known to each other. You are more likely to die crossing the road. it's just the media hyping the negative as usual and people jumping on the bandwagon of the negativity the media create everyday........ I say ban newspapers and news broadcasts they're trying to depress people and it's working " They are reporting facts . Two were stabbed to death last night in London | |||
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"Is the ratio changing ? What ratio? What numbers/stats are you looking at, OP?" he's looking at your eyes and so am I | |||
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"I’ve lived in London for 36 years, 32 of those full time. I’ve never ever felt unsafe here Unfortunately the youth of today think it’s cool to carry knives but it is not stabbings every day that describe and the majority of those that happen are normally person in person known to each other. This is not a problem just isolated to London it is happening in most of the cities. Is it more prevalent now than say 30 years ago, who knows it is just as likely that the crime figures are now more widely available and of course the press jump on anything and everything to sell news, bot always correctly reported and definitely leads to scare mongering You are more likely to die crossing the road. " Stabbings not a problem then ? | |||
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"Hello? Can you hear me? or is your singling out of another poster more important than your thread topic?" Hello! Can you hear me..? Is that a song title? | |||
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"I’ve lived in London for 36 years, 32 of those full time. I’ve never ever felt unsafe here Unfortunately the youth of today think it’s cool to carry knives but it is not stabbings every day that describe and the majority of those that happen are normally person in person known to each other. You are more likely to die crossing the road. it's just the media hyping the negative as usual and people jumping on the bandwagon of the negativity the media create everyday........ I say ban newspapers and news broadcasts they're trying to depress people and it's working They are reporting facts . Two were stabbed to death last night in London" yes but always depressing negative facts, people have been getting stabbed all over the world and all over our country ever since the invention of the knife, London is a city of culture but when I say that I mean the cultures of many countries of the world with the exception of ours | |||
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"I'm out I'm disgusted by certain attitudes & I won't pander to their pathetic behaviour " Snowflake | |||
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"I’ve lived in London for 36 years, 32 of those full time. I’ve never ever felt unsafe here Unfortunately the youth of today think it’s cool to carry knives but it is not stabbings every day that describe and the majority of those that happen are normally person in person known to each other. You are more likely to die crossing the road. it's just the media hyping the negative as usual and people jumping on the bandwagon of the negativity the media create everyday........ I say ban newspapers and news broadcasts they're trying to depress people and it's working They are reporting facts . Two were stabbed to death last night in Londonyes but always depressing negative facts, people have been getting stabbed all over the world and all over our country ever since the invention of the knife, London is a city of culture but when I say that I mean the cultures of many countries of the world with the exception of ours " City is also a city of knife crime | |||
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"Hello? Can you hear me? or is your singling out of another poster more important than your thread topic? Hello! Can you hear me..? Is that a song title? " As I thought. No sustenance and no actual arguement.. waste. Of breath. | |||
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"I merely said I won't visit there " I’m sure London can cope with that. Phew. | |||
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"I’ve lived in London for 36 years, 32 of those full time. I’ve never ever felt unsafe here Unfortunately the youth of today think it’s cool to carry knives but it is not stabbings every day that describe and the majority of those that happen are normally person in person known to each other. You are more likely to die crossing the road. it's just the media hyping the negative as usual and people jumping on the bandwagon of the negativity the media create everyday........ I say ban newspapers and news broadcasts they're trying to depress people and it's working They are reporting facts . Two were stabbed to death last night in Londonyes but always depressing negative facts, people have been getting stabbed all over the world and all over our country ever since the invention of the knife, London is a city of culture but when I say that I mean the cultures of many countries of the world with the exception of ours City is also a city of knife crime" as I said since the invention of the knife knife crime has existed it's not isolated to London that's the media steering your thoughts to believe that London is different to other cities where the same degree of violence exists | |||
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"I merely said I won't visit there " Excellent. London is declared a safe zone | |||
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"I’ve lived in London for 36 years, 32 of those full time. I’ve never ever felt unsafe here Unfortunately the youth of today think it’s cool to carry knives but it is not stabbings every day that describe and the majority of those that happen are normally person in person known to each other. This is not a problem just isolated to London it is happening in most of the cities. Is it more prevalent now than say 30 years ago, who knows it is just as likely that the crime figures are now more widely available and of course the press jump on anything and everything to sell news, bot always correctly reported and definitely leads to scare mongering You are more likely to die crossing the road. Stabbings not a problem then ? " Nobody has said that. The comments are in the context of you describing London as a war zone and that it is unsafe to visit. No one is saying the deaths are okay just trying to give perspective. | |||
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"I merely said I won't visit there Excellent. London is declared a safe zone " Don't worry everyone, the biggest weapon is staying home... | |||
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"I must be a coward... It's a war zone. " I've been in a war zone or two. Where ever you're talking about in the UK, it's really not a war zone. | |||
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"I am scared to visit. Too much knife crime but as some said, it's ok if it's gang related Wtf" No ... that's how you misinterpreted comments made Do you get many goats crossing your bridge? | |||
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"No it's not.. stabbings galore.. in Essex and London.. I will not go there any more.. it used to be a nice place.. just misery now By galore... What's the quantitative data tell you? You need quantitative data to avoid a knife ? In order to determine whether knife crime is rising, or whether this is media hysteria with an agenda, looking at data is crucial So it's not rising ? Over what period and in what context? You're making the claim, please provide evidence. (preferably in the form of crime statistics) Google is your friend " Knife crime is up EVERYWHERE... get yourself a obscene amount of industrial strength cotton wool and wrap yourself in it no matter where you go.. | |||
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"I am scared to visit. Too much knife crime but as some said, it's ok if it's gang related Wtf" Literally not one person has said that. | |||
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"I am scared to visit. Too much knife crime but as some said, it's ok if it's gang related Wtf" We said, it’s usually in areas you wouldn’t just stumble into and turf related etc. It’s not just going to happen stumbling down Kensington high street. | |||
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"I must be a coward... It's a war zone. I've been in a war zone or two. Where ever you're talking about in the UK, it's really not a war zone." The difference was that when I served I could defend myself | |||
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"They're pointing out that if you aren't involved in that kind of life you're highly likely to be unaffected by it. Didn't realise it needed to be spelled out to you that plainly I guess." | |||
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"I am scared to visit. Too much knife crime but as some said, it's ok if it's gang related Wtf We said, it’s usually in areas you wouldn’t just stumble into and turf related etc. It’s not just going to happen stumbling down Kensington high street. " Kensington tube.. stabbing Trafalgar Square .. stabbing It's happening | |||
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"Ffs. What a troll. " Indeed ... being a capricorn I better not go trip trip trapping over his bridge | |||
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"I’m out because again just your previous thread you are being rude and not actually listening to anything any one is saying and just sniping back with no substance. There really is no point talking or trying to discuss anything with you, keep your blinkers on and believe what you to want to believe " I need blinkers to keep my eyes focused on your breasts | |||
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"Ffs. What a troll. " So nobody gets stabbed in London ? | |||
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"I am scared to visit. Too much knife crime but as some said, it's ok if it's gang related Wtf We said, it’s usually in areas you wouldn’t just stumble into and turf related etc. It’s not just going to happen stumbling down Kensington high street. Kensington tube.. stabbing Trafalgar Square .. stabbing It's happening" Are you ignoring the fact that knife crime is up EVERYWHERE in the UK or just prefer to stick to whatever agenda you have going on? | |||
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"Evidence of random stabbings please to show we should be concerned for our safety. " Ok said I am concerned for mine x | |||
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"I am scared to visit. Too much knife crime but as some said, it's ok if it's gang related Wtf We said, it’s usually in areas you wouldn’t just stumble into and turf related etc. It’s not just going to happen stumbling down Kensington high street. Kensington tube.. stabbing Trafalgar Square .. stabbing It's happening Are you ignoring the fact that knife crime is up EVERYWHERE in the UK or just prefer to stick to whatever agenda you have going on? " Agenda? Please expand | |||
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"I am scared to visit. Too much knife crime but as some said, it's ok if it's gang related Wtf We said, it’s usually in areas you wouldn’t just stumble into and turf related etc. It’s not just going to happen stumbling down Kensington high street. Kensington tube.. stabbing Trafalgar Square .. stabbing It's happening" Things can happen anywhere but realistically, it doesn’t happen in many places that are not frequented by gangs. Mentally unstable people can pop up anywhere but gangs stay in there own neighbourhoods usually. | |||
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"I live in a county next to London. I will not visit it. I am afraid to walk those streets.. " If we didn’t have to go there for work then why on earth would anyone venture into the cesspit. Best thing they could do is flatten it. | |||
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"I’m out because again just your previous thread you are being rude and not actually listening to anything any one is saying and just sniping back with no substance. There really is no point talking or trying to discuss anything with you, keep your blinkers on and believe what you to want to believe " Snowflake bordering on snowstorm | |||
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"I’m out because again just your previous thread you are being rude and not actually listening to anything any one is saying and just sniping back with no substance. There really is no point talking or trying to discuss anything with you, keep your blinkers on and believe what you to want to believe " I need blinkers and a trip down the Thames to Greenwich | |||
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