FabSwingers.com forum: Do you believe in god?

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Why or why not

Mrscxxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Don’t believe in a god, but I do believe in an afterlife from personal experience of seeing and hearing dead people x

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By *SAchickWoman
over a year ago

Hillside desolate

No I dont, I have no logical reason to believe in God any more than any other fictional being.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

I've just checked my lottery numbers....... so NO.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No prayed to god man times for my cocky to grow he’s useless lol

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I believe in god, but not as some all mighty thing in the sky, I am pagan my belief is that is god is Mother Nature and she always answers prayers even if we don’t see it, unfortunately we don’t always get the answer we are looking for

Mrscxxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’m a atheist. I grew up in a completely neutral environment where we were encouraged to come to our own conclusion over matters such as religion. I’ve never been presented with any kind of evidence which may suggest god or any other entity exists. However, i’m open minded if someone wants to convince me otherwise.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I believe in god, but not as some all mighty thing in the sky, I am pagan my belief is that is god is Mother Nature and she always answers prayers even if we don’t see it, unfortunately we don’t always get the answer we are looking for

Mrscxxx "
I know I didn’t

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By *MP3Man
over a year ago

Between Scylla and Charybdis

Yes. He gave rock and roll to you, he put it in the soul of everyone. I believe everything Gene Simmons tells me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No evidence of a god. Or after life. Or supernatural anything. Or aliens. Or unicorns. Or Loch Ness monster.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I’m a atheist. I grew up in a completely neutral environment where we were encouraged to come to our own conclusion over matters such as religion. I’ve never been presented with any kind of evidence which may suggest god or any other entity exists. However, i’m open minded if someone wants to convince me otherwise."

They can’t! Theists have “faith” which is far from the pathway to truth

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Mrscxxx "

Always answers but not answers then?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"No evidence of a god. Or after life. Or supernatural anything. Or aliens. Or unicorns. Or Loch Ness monster. "

See because I’m pagan I believe in the after life I believe there is life after death

Mrscxxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No evidence of a god. Or after life. Or supernatural anything. Or aliens. Or unicorns. Or Loch Ness monster.

See because I’m pagan I believe in the after life I believe there is life after death

Mrscxxx "

Why? No evidence of afterlife whatsoever. More evidence of Bigfoot than after life. Brain dies. Over and out.

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By *partharmonyCouple
over a year ago

Ruislip

I (Luke) used to be a firm believer and committed Christian from my teens to my early thirties when I started to have doubts.

I have spent a number of years looking for evidence for the existence of a god. I have read books and articles and watched debates and videos. My conclusion is that I have never found any evidence (let alone proof) that a god exists. Until I get some I remain unconvinced there is one and live my life as if there is no god.

I sure do get a lot more sex now I'm not beholden to somebody else's view of morality.

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By *SAchickWoman
over a year ago

Hillside desolate

"Yes. He gave rock and roll to you, he put it in the soul of everyone. I believe everything Gene Simmons tells me

Argh, stuck in my head now

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"No evidence of a god. Or after life. Or supernatural anything. Or aliens. Or unicorns. Or Loch Ness monster.

See because I’m pagan I believe in the after life I believe there is life after death

Mrscxxx

Why? No evidence of afterlife whatsoever. More evidence of Bigfoot than after life. Brain dies. Over and out."

It depends on your beliefs I guess I’ve had proof that the after life exists I am able to communicate with spirit so to that is proof enough

Mrscxxx

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"No evidence of a god. Or after life. Or supernatural anything. Or aliens. Or unicorns. Or Loch Ness monster.

See because I’m pagan I believe in the after life I believe there is life after death

Mrscxxx "

Where is the after life ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I (Luke) used to be a firm believer and committed Christian from my teens to my early thirties when I started to have doubts.

I sure do get a lot more sex now I'm not beholden to somebody else's view of morality. "

Most of us were believers. Brainwashed. Then when about 8 or 9 some begin to think....

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By *mmmMaybeCouple
over a year ago

West Wales

A God? Maybe...

Religion? Definitely not. Man made bollox.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

The pagan religion supports the swinging life style no other religion does that

Mrscxxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The pagan religion supports the swinging life style no other religion does that

Mrscxxx "

Think Jesus mum was shagging about to be fair!! Joseph a cuckold.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"No evidence of a god. Or after life. Or supernatural anything. Or aliens. Or unicorns. Or Loch Ness monster.

See because I’m pagan I believe in the after life I believe there is life after death

Mrscxxx

Where is the after life ? "

The after life is all around us all you have to do is open your self up to believe that not every thing has a logical explanation

Like 2 days ago my tumble dryer flew open I watched it happen there is no explanation what so ever for that

Mrscxxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A God? Maybe...

Religion? Definitely not. Man made bollox.

God.=man made bollox. From Jewish one to Thor to Allah etc. All man made to control the minions

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"The pagan religion supports the swinging life style no other religion does that

Mrscxxx

Think Jesus mum was shagging about to be fair!! Joseph a cuckold."

I do not believe In Jesus

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"The pagan religion supports the swinging life style no other religion does that

Mrscxxx

Think Jesus mum was shagging about to be fair!! Joseph a cuckold."

If you read the bible and I have it was god who got her pregnant

Shrugs

Mrscxxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No evidence of a god. Or after life. Or supernatural anything. Or aliens. Or unicorns. Or Loch Ness monster.

See because I’m pagan I believe in the after life I believe there is life after death

Mrscxxx

Where is the after life ?

The after life is all around us all you have to do is open your self up to believe that not every thing has a logical explanation

Like 2 days ago my tumble dryer flew open I watched it happen there is no explanation what so ever for that

Mrscxxx "

All around us? Where? Tumble dryer malfunction equals ghosts? Lol

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By * and M lookingCouple
over a year ago

Worcester

It was just a myth invented to keep the mortals in fear

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"No evidence of a god. Or after life. Or supernatural anything. Or aliens. Or unicorns. Or Loch Ness monster.

See because I’m pagan I believe in the after life I believe there is life after death

Mrscxxx

Where is the after life ?

The after life is all around us all you have to do is open your self up to believe that not every thing has a logical explanation

Like 2 days ago my tumble dryer flew open I watched it happen there is no explanation what so ever for that

Mrscxxx

All around us? Where? Tumble dryer malfunction equals ghosts? Lol "

Well explain how my door flew open coz I can’t

Mrscxxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The pagan religion supports the swinging life style no other religion does that

Mrscxxx

Think Jesus mum was shagging about to be fair!! Joseph a cuckold.

If you read the bible and I have it was god who got her pregnant

Shrugs

Mrscxxx "

So not her husband as I said. God invaded Mary and as god is also Jesus he impregnates his mum!!! Wow!!! Poor Joseph

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No evidence of a god. Or after life. Or supernatural anything. Or aliens. Or unicorns. Or Loch Ness monster.

See because I’m pagan I believe in the after life I believe there is life after death

Mrscxxx

Where is the after life ?

The after life is all around us all you have to do is open your self up to believe that not every thing has a logical explanation

Like 2 days ago my tumble dryer flew open I watched it happen there is no explanation what so ever for that

Mrscxxx

All around us? Where? Tumble dryer malfunction equals ghosts? Lol

Well explain how my door flew open coz I can’t

Mrscxxx "

Can’t explain it equals can’t explain it and to be intellectually honest, don’t know is ok.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No it's just another word to me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The pagan religion supports the swinging life style no other religion does that

Mrscxxx

Think Jesus mum was shagging about to be fair!! Joseph a cuckold.

I do not believe In Jesus "

A Jesus is more likely than a ghost

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No evidence of a god. Or after life. Or supernatural anything. Or aliens. Or unicorns. Or Loch Ness monster.

See because I’m pagan I believe in the after life I believe there is life after death

Mrscxxx

Why? No evidence of afterlife whatsoever. More evidence of Bigfoot than after life. Brain dies. Over and out.

It depends on your beliefs I guess I’ve had proof that the after life exists I am able to communicate with spirit so to that is proof enough

Mrscxxx "

You can communicate with spirits??

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By * and M lookingCouple
over a year ago

Worcester

"No

It was just a myth invented to keep the mortals in fear"

Oh and of course to give the Priest an audience to prey on

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Theres an easy way to tell if your house is haunted.....its not...grow up

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Theres an easy way to tell if your house is haunted.....its not...grow up

Blunt but accurate !!!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"No evidence of a god. Or after life. Or supernatural anything. Or aliens. Or unicorns. Or Loch Ness monster.

See because I’m pagan I believe in the after life I believe there is life after death

Mrscxxx

Why? No evidence of afterlife whatsoever. More evidence of Bigfoot than after life. Brain dies. Over and out.

It depends on your beliefs I guess I’ve had proof that the after life exists I am able to communicate with spirit so to that is proof enough

Mrscxxx

You can communicate with spirits?? "

Yes I can

Mrscxxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes I do

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By *ust RachelTV/TS
over a year ago

Horsham

Being brought up a Catholic, I do believe in god.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Being brought up a Catholic, I do believe in god."

Exactly what brainwashing is

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yes I do"

Why?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No evidence of a god. Or after life. Or supernatural anything. Or aliens. Or unicorns. Or Loch Ness monster.

See because I’m pagan I believe in the after life I believe there is life after death

Mrscxxx

Why? No evidence of afterlife whatsoever. More evidence of Bigfoot than after life. Brain dies. Over and out.

It depends on your beliefs I guess I’ve had proof that the after life exists I am able to communicate with spirit so to that is proof enough

Mrscxxx

You can communicate with spirits??

Yes I can

Mrscxxx "

What do they say?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's a no from me

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By *mmmMaybeCouple
over a year ago

West Wales

"A God? Maybe...

Religion? Definitely not. Man made bollox.

God.=man made bollox. From Jewish one to Thor to Allah etc. All man made to control the minions "

Not really, I like to think if I live my life morally, try not to to wrong or hurt others then if there is a God, I might get to meet them. Morals do not come from religion, they just hijacked them.

Imo it's the man made religions, books, the thall shalt nots, burn the infidel power hungry add ons that cause all the problems.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A God? Maybe...

Religion? Definitely not. Man made bollox.

God.=man made bollox. From Jewish one to Thor to Allah etc. All man made to control the minions

Not really, I like to think if I live my life morally, try not to to wrong or hurt others then if there is a God, I might get to meet them. Morals do not come from religion, they just hijacked them.

Imo it's the man made religions, books, the thall shalt nots, burn the infidel power hungry add ons that cause all the problems.

Humans are inherently moral. Before the bible you think they’d have survived without helping each other. Your point “I’d like to think” sums it up. Be nice, but no god, no way, no how

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nope and never have. I went through a lot of trauma throughout childhood so I can't believe in a god that would allow such things to happen to innocent child and to other innocent children. Also I have no logical reason to believe in it. Just seems like another fairytale to me like the tooth fairy and santa claus.

~Mia

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

No I don't believe in the god we're told about in the new or old testament.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes i have nothing but self belief

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Nope and never have. I went through a lot of trauma throughout childhood so I can't believe in a god that would allow such things to happen to innocent child and to other innocent children. Also I have no logical reason to believe in it. Just seems like another fairytale to me like the tooth fairy and santa claus.

~Mia"

Wait ...what? Santa Claus not real??

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By * and M lookingCouple
over a year ago

Worcester

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By * and M lookingCouple
over a year ago

Worcester

~Mia

Wait ...what? Santa Claus not real??"

Damn, you beat us to it

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By *loswingersCouple
over a year ago

Gloucester

Yes I believe in a higher entity.

I also believe Jesus walked the earth and had a message to give us.

I also believe in reincarnation and karma, because for me they answer so many unanswered questions.

I respect that other people may not share my beliefs, and I certainly won’t spend time rubbishing their thoughts. But I know they will do that to mine, and I don’t care

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No I don't believe in the god we're told about in the new or old testament.

Nature, circumstance, coincidence - these are the things I consider to be "god".

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By *-4pleasureCouple
over a year ago

Belfast

Then you’re not an atheist - you’re agnostic.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Then you’re not an atheist - you’re agnostic."

God doesn't believe in atheists or agnostics

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

"No I don't believe in the god we're told about in the new or old testament.

Nature, circumstance, coincidence - these are the things I consider to be "god"."

Yes, me too and "self"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't believe in God personally,

I see it as a story that has been adapted by different generations over time and how many wars have been started by religion.

I'm a huge believer in karma..

Buddhists have the right idea I think personally

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By *ensualbicockMan
over a year ago

liverpool wavertree picton clock

"No I don't believe in the god we're told about in the new or old testament.

Nature, circumstance, coincidence - these are the things I consider to be "god".

Yes, me too and "self" "

Read the Holographic universe by Michael Talbot ...........You'll like it

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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago

There and to the left a bit

I believe in the right of people to believe whatever they want if it gives them strength or faith or whatever - personally I don't believe but then I had a force fed religion upbringing in a fairly hypocritical environment so that was enough for me to make my mind up about my own beliefs

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

"No I don't believe in the god we're told about in the new or old testament.

Nature, circumstance, coincidence - these are the things I consider to be "god".

Yes, me too and "self"

Read the Holographic universe by Michael Talbot ...........You'll like it

OK, I'll give it a go, thank you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No I don't believe in the god we're told about in the new or old testament.

Nature, circumstance, coincidence - these are the things I consider to be "god".

Yes, me too and "self"

Read the Holographic universe by Michael Talbot ...........You'll like it

OK, I'll give it a go, thank you"
course you will

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Whilst not having any beliefs myself I,d love to think there is something out there. I’ve always been a bit jealous of people who have beliefs in whatever , people live longer with something in there lives for one lol

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

"No I don't believe in the god we're told about in the new or old testament.

Nature, circumstance, coincidence - these are the things I consider to be "god".

Yes, me too and "self"

Read the Holographic universe by Michael Talbot ...........You'll like it

OK, I'll give it a go, thank youcourse you will

What makes you think I won't?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Whilst not having any beliefs myself I,d love to think there is something out there. I’ve always been a bit jealous of people who have beliefs in whatever , people live longer with something in there lives for one lol "

Live longer?? How you work that out?

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By *isa2018Couple
over a year ago

East Northamptonshire

"No evidence of a god. Or after life. Or supernatural anything. Or aliens. Or unicorns. Or Loch Ness monster.

See because I’m pagan I believe in the after life I believe there is life after death

Mrscxxx

Why? No evidence of afterlife whatsoever. More evidence of Bigfoot than after life. Brain dies. Over and out."

If you could speak to an unborn child and tell it that after months it will go through a traumatic experience, being expelled from it's current abode, but emerge into a new life that is at least 10 times longer than it has experienced so far (effectively eternal in comparison), would it believe you?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Then you’re not an atheist - you’re agnostic."

Yes he’s atheists. You’re getting wrong

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No ....there's nothing there ...the bible was just a novel

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

~Mia"

Totally agree .. it's like believing in unicorns

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By *ensualtouch15Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch

"Why or why not

Mrscxxx "

Which one , can I know the definition of what I'm being asked

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By *pa and dCouple
over a year ago

Barnet

I'd usually say no, but when I came inside of Ppa this morning, I might have had a few seconds when I was utterly convinced of (his/her) existence

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By *-4pleasureCouple
over a year ago

Belfast

Then you’re not an atheist - you’re agnostic.

Yes he’s atheists. You’re getting wrong "

No you’re wrong - he’s agnostic. He’s open minded to being convinced of the existence of a God. Therefore he isn’t an atheist. He agnostic - someone who doesn’t know if god exists or not.

If you’re interested, and enjoy exercising your mind, yIu may however wish to consider whether he is an agnostic atheist

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No. But I would say I was more agnostic than atheist. I sometimes envy people who do believe and gain comfort from

It. I don’t believe in ghosts, karma, astrology or anything like that. I’m too much of a pragmatist. Not always a good thing though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No. But I would say I was more agnostic than atheist. I sometimes envy people who do believe and gain comfort from

It. I don’t believe in ghosts, karma, astrology or anything like that. I’m too much of a pragmatist. Not always a good thing though. "

Yes always a good thing. People should want to believe as many true things as possible and not have faith but as much certainty as possible

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No because it's a bloody stupid concept.

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By *mmmMaybeCouple
over a year ago

West Wales

"No ....there's nothing there ...the bible was just a novel "

Have you ever considered the irony of your user name then

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"No evidence of a god. Or after life. Or supernatural anything. Or aliens. Or unicorns. Or Loch Ness monster.

See because I’m pagan I believe in the after life I believe there is life after death

Mrscxxx

Where is the after life ?

The after life is all around us all you have to do is open your self up to believe that not every thing has a logical explanation

Like 2 days ago my tumble dryer flew open I watched it happen there is no explanation what so ever for that

Mrscxxx "

If the after life is all around us why can't I see it ?

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By *gnitemybodyWoman
over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor

Nope

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

No. It's extremely unlikely and there appears no reasonable evidence for one.

Likely to be a relic from growing human civilizations of the past, where people were given fears to control their behaviour and to help them make do with hardship in this life, whilst leaders got richer, so the poor felt the afterlife was worth suffering for.

Religions were also good tribal strengthening tools, that some would die for

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No evidence of a god. Or after life. Or supernatural anything. Or aliens. Or unicorns. Or Loch Ness monster.

See because I’m pagan I believe in the after life I believe there is life after death

Mrscxxx

Where is the after life ?

The after life is all around us all you have to do is open your self up to believe that not every thing has a logical explanation

Like 2 days ago my tumble dryer flew open I watched it happen there is no explanation what so ever for that

Mrscxxx "

Your tumble dryer door flying open was the afterlife?? See this is where I struggle with all this.

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By *gnitemybodyWoman
over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor

"No evidence of a god. Or after life. Or supernatural anything. Or aliens. Or unicorns. Or Loch Ness monster.

See because I’m pagan I believe in the after life I believe there is life after death

Mrscxxx

Where is the after life ?

The after life is all around us all you have to do is open your self up to believe that not every thing has a logical explanation

Like 2 days ago my tumble dryer flew open I watched it happen there is no explanation what so ever for that

Mrscxxx

Your tumble dryer door flying open was the afterlife?? See this is where I struggle with all this. "

sorry

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Then you’re not an atheist - you’re agnostic.

Yes he’s atheists. You’re getting wrong

No you’re wrong - he’s agnostic. He’s open minded to being convinced of the existence of a God. Therefore he isn’t an atheist. He agnostic - someone who doesn’t know if god exists or not.

If you’re interested, and enjoy exercising your mind, yIu may however wish to consider whether he is an agnostic atheist

I am neither an agnostic nor a ‘he’. I am very much an atheist, however if I was presented with scientific evidence and facts then I, like many others would obviously change my perspective. However, I am extremely confident that no one could ever sway me otherwise, therefore, I am an atheist.

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By *aughtyandhandsomeMan
over a year ago

button moon

Not really. I'm not massively religious at all. What I've had thrown at me all these years I do wonder if there is a actually a god or not.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No evidence of a god. Or after life. Or supernatural anything. Or aliens. Or unicorns. Or Loch Ness monster.

See because I’m pagan I believe in the after life I believe there is life after death

Mrscxxx

Where is the after life ?

The after life is all around us all you have to do is open your self up to believe that not every thing has a logical explanation

Like 2 days ago my tumble dryer flew open I watched it happen there is no explanation what so ever for that

Mrscxxx

Your tumble dryer door flying open was the afterlife?? See this is where I struggle with all this.

sorry"

Yours too??

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By *lanemikeMan
over a year ago

Bolton

YES.........!!! Proud to say I do believe in God.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Not really. I'm not massively religious at all. What I've had thrown at me all these years I do wonder if there is a actually a god or not. "

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over a year ago

"YES.........!!! Proud to say I do believe in God."

Pride in a belief seems a little odd to me, but that's you and I'm me.

There may be a god and there may not be - personally, I don't really care either way. If there is a god, he/she probably doesn't care whether I believe in him/her either.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"YES.........!!! Proud to say I do believe in God."

Why proud ?

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By *gnitemybodyWoman
over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor

"No evidence of a god. Or after life. Or supernatural anything. Or aliens. Or unicorns. Or Loch Ness monster.

See because I’m pagan I believe in the after life I believe there is life after death

Mrscxxx

Where is the after life ?

The after life is all around us all you have to do is open your self up to believe that not every thing has a logical explanation

Like 2 days ago my tumble dryer flew open I watched it happen there is no explanation what so ever for that

Mrscxxx

Your tumble dryer door flying open was the afterlife?? See this is where I struggle with all this.

sorry

Yours too??"

I think if my tumble dryer did that (I don't have one by the way) I wouldn't think the cause was the afterlife,but then I'm a wee cynical bugger. I'd be getting the tumble dryer checked out mind,they have a bad rep at the moment.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No I don’t

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

No. No evidence that persuades me.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"No. No evidence that persuades me. "

What if your tumble drier door opened ? Isn't that enough evidence for you ?

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over a year ago

"No evidence of a god. Or after life. Or supernatural anything. Or aliens. Or unicorns. Or Loch Ness monster.

See because I’m pagan I believe in the after life I believe there is life after death

Mrscxxx

Where is the after life ?

The after life is all around us all you have to do is open your self up to believe that not every thing has a logical explanation

Like 2 days ago my tumble dryer flew open I watched it happen there is no explanation what so ever for that

Mrscxxx

Your tumble dryer door flying open was the afterlife?? See this is where I struggle with all this.

sorry

Yours too??

I’d think it was all the hundreds of socks that get lost in there finally appearing and forcing the door open !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No evidence of a god. Or after life. Or supernatural anything. Or aliens. Or unicorns. Or Loch Ness monster.

See because I’m pagan I believe in the after life I believe there is life after death

Mrscxxx

Why? No evidence of afterlife whatsoever. More evidence of Bigfoot than after life. Brain dies. Over and out.

It depends on your beliefs I guess I’ve had proof that the after life exists I am able to communicate with spirit so to that is proof enough

Mrscxxx "

Maybe you should consider taking up James Randi's open $1,000,000 challenge?

If you can truly communicate with spirits you walk away with all the money.

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Returning to the OP.

Personally I am an atheist, I was raised Catholic but after studying various mainstream religious Faith's, in addition to philosophy, ethics and science, I concluded that there is nothing to suggest a deity exists in the traditional sense. I am open to somebody who is able to change my mind however.

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By *lanemikeMan
over a year ago

Bolton

"YES.........!!! Proud to say I do believe in God.

Why proud ?"

Yes, of course I am.....

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"YES.........!!! Proud to say I do believe in God.

Why proud ?

Yes, of course I am....."

I asked WHY are you proud ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

After watching my mam pass away from breast cancer,my dad from liver cancer,my best friend dying in march from cancer 3 of my friends committing suicide,a friend drowning while out fishing,my sister attempting suicide me attempting suicide I would have to say no.

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By *irkydirkyMan
over a year ago

Liverpool

Live longer?? How you work that out?"

So basically you’re telling everyone how wrong they are if they don’t agree with you?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I believe I should have another drink

Most of my family are gone so not sure there is a lot of faith left.

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By *lanemikeMan
over a year ago

Bolton

"YES.........!!! Proud to say I do believe in God.

Why proud ?

Yes, of course I am.....

I asked WHY are you proud ?"

Yes, I am proud to say I believe in god....

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By *unscot44Man
over a year ago

Stepps (Glasgow)

I believe that there is some kind of existence after "death" and i do believe there is more to life and indeed the universe than meets the eye. I totally understand why people do not believe, and to me this is a personal issue and each to their own as they say.

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By *gnitemybodyWoman
over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor

"After watching my mam pass away from breast cancer,my dad from liver cancer,my best friend dying in march from cancer 3 of my friends committing suicide,a friend drowning while out fishing,my sister attempting suicide me attempting suicide I would have to say no."

Jesus Christ that's bloody awful,you see that's where it all falls down for me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No, here's why....

If we loose a loved one religious types will assure us that it's all part of Gods plan, heaven is the prize that awaits those of us who've lived life by the rules.

This gives comfort to believers who's nearest and dearest have gone before their time.

My Dad was without doubt the kindest and most gentle of men yet he died a long and very painful death.

My son has the kindest of hearts but is currently on a life support fighting for his life.

Auschwitz, Aids, 911.... Is this the master plan of an all loving god? I think not.

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By *gnitemybodyWoman
over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor

"YES.........!!! Proud to say I do believe in God.

Why proud ?

Yes, of course I am.....

I asked WHY are you proud ?

Yes, I am proud to say I believe in god...."

Yes BUT why? Doesn't matter.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"YES.........!!! Proud to say I do believe in God.

Why proud ?

Yes, of course I am.....

I asked WHY are you proud ?

Yes, I am proud to say I believe in god....

Yes BUT why? Doesn't matter."

I don't think we'll ever know why

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By *gnitemybodyWoman
over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor

"No, here's why....

If we loose a loved one religious types will assure us that it's all part of Gods plan, heaven is the prize that awaits those of us who've lived life by the rules.

This gives comfort to believers who's nearest and dearest have gone before their time.

My Dad was without doubt the kindest and most gentle of men yet he died a long and very painful death.

My son has the kindest of hearts but is currently on a life support fighting for his life.

Auschwitz, Aids, 911.... Is this the master plan of an all loving god? I think not. "

Your son is on life support so sorry to hear that.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"No. No evidence that persuades me.

What if your tumble drier door opened ? Isn't that enough evidence for you ?"

That's clearly intelligent design

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over a year ago

"No, here's why....

If we loose a loved one religious types will assure us that it's all part of Gods plan, heaven is the prize that awaits those of us who've lived life by the rules.

This gives comfort to believers who's nearest and dearest have gone before their time.

My Dad was without doubt the kindest and most gentle of men yet he died a long and very painful death.

My son has the kindest of hearts but is currently on a life support fighting for his life.

Auschwitz, Aids, 911.... Is this the master plan of an all loving god? I think not.

Your son is on life support so sorry to hear that."

Who said he was supposed to be all loving? If he does exist, he's a vindictive blood-thirsty arsehole.

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By *lanemikeMan
over a year ago

Bolton

"No, here's why....

If we loose a loved one religious types will assure us that it's all part of Gods plan, heaven is the prize that awaits those of us who've lived life by the rules.

This gives comfort to believers who's nearest and dearest have gone before their time.

My Dad was without doubt the kindest and most gentle of men yet he died a long and very painful death.

My son has the kindest of hearts but is currently on a life support fighting for his life.

Auschwitz, Aids, 911.... Is this the master plan of an all loving god? I think not.

Your son is on life support so sorry to hear that."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No. No evidence that persuades me.

What if your tumble drier door opened ? Isn't that enough evidence for you ?

That's clearly intelligent design

Chuckle

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over a year ago

"I believe that there is some kind of existence after "death" and i do believe there is more to life and indeed the universe than meets the eye. I totally understand why people do not believe, and to me this is a personal issue and each to their own as they say."

Why do you believe that? Makes little sense...we die. End

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I believe I should have another drink

Most of my family are gone so not sure there is a lot of faith left."

Believe in drink is ok as that exists

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Live longer?? How you work that out?

So basically you’re telling everyone how wrong they are if they don’t agree with you?

Who?

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over a year ago

"YES.........!!! Proud to say I do believe in God.

Why proud ?

Yes, of course I am.....

I asked WHY are you proud ?

Yes, I am proud to say I believe in god...."

Doesn’t it go against your religious principles to be on Fab.

Still shouldn’t be a problem as you will never come face to face with God the Harry Potter books are more believable than the Bible

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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago

There and to the left a bit

"No. No evidence that persuades me.

What if your tumble drier door opened ? Isn't that enough evidence for you ?

That's clearly intelligent design

How about if your tumble drier door opened and shut in time with the phrase "there is a God"?

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By *ewrocksWoman
over a year ago

button moon

No. Because if one exists they're fucking cruel so I'd rather stick to science.

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By *lanemikeMan
over a year ago

Bolton

"YES.........!!! Proud to say I do believe in God.

Why proud ?

Yes, of course I am.....

I asked WHY are you proud ?

Yes, I am proud to say I believe in god....

Doesn’t it go against your religious principles to be on Fab.

Still shouldn’t be a problem as you will never come face to face with God the Harry Potter books are more believable than the Bible "

Never read the Harry Potter books. I do read the Bible and try to understand it....

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By *ty31Man
over a year ago

NW London

Yes I am a Christian. It's.jist something I feel inside and a deep belief. My faith is a huge part of who I am and guides me in many of my choices.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I believe in Jesus. God bless. Amen

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By *uckOfTheBayMan
over a year ago

Mold

I believe in myself and that's good enough for me

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By *est Wales WifeCouple
over a year ago

Near Carmarthen

No, quite simply because there is not one bit of evidence for the existence of any of the 5000 or so deities that people believe in.

Which of these gods the deluded tend to believe in of course is almost certainly down to where they were born and which God(s) their parents believe in/ indoctrinated them.

I have no problem with anyone believing what they wish, I just can't really take anyone very seriously who believes in the equivalent of Santa.

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over a year ago

"Yes I am a Christian. It's.jist something I feel inside and a deep belief. My faith is a huge part of who I am and guides me in many of my choices."

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By *lanemikeMan
over a year ago

Bolton

"Yes I am a Christian. It's.jist something I feel inside and a deep belief. My faith is a huge part of who I am and guides me in many of my choices."

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"No. No evidence that persuades me.

What if your tumble drier door opened ? Isn't that enough evidence for you ?

That's clearly intelligent design

How about if your tumble drier door opened and shut in time with the phrase "there is a God"?

Some engineers have too much time on their hands

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No don't believe in any god science has pretty much disproved any existence. I see on a day to day basis what damage religion has caused in my job. As far as I am concerned people can belive what ever religion they want but it should have no effect on the world outside of your own door

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over a year ago

I don't believe in God nor do i adhere to any religious beliefs. I'm quite committed to that, I don't celebrate Christmas or any other festival, I am happy being an aethiest and humanist.

But I have a lot of time for religious people, I never belittle religion, never mock it and unless invited to debate it would never dream of suggesting or dismissing someone's beliefs as wrong.

It makes me sad when aethiests are so quick to take the high ground and try and prove their self professed superiority

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future. (Jeremiah 29:11 NIV) x

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future. (Jeremiah 29:11 NIV) x"

I'm happy you believe that, but unless you believe it, it's just words.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future. (Jeremiah 29:11 NIV) x"

That's great if it applied to everyone.

My father once said to me at a time when my brother was close to dying" be brave be strong for the Lord thy god is with you". We came close to falling out because I asked him where God was when car pulled out of a turning and drove into his motorbike

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Thanks to anyone who commented on my last post

The Bible as I see it is just a collection of stories written 100's or 1000's of years after the stories happened by people who knew little or nothing of their original content.

The Bible as we know it is largely compile by Romans.... Later to be changed by Henry VIII from Catholicism.

it's fact that a guy born in Bethlehem called Jesus said he was the son of god, but then again so did David Ike.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am very sorry for the loss of your brother. My brother died suddenly aged only 35 years old. God bless you x

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future. (Jeremiah 29:11 NIV) x

That's great if it applied to everyone.

Yes. I've suffered horribly in my life, and to try to turn it around into some great plan that an almighty god has to redeem me or others is a bit sick, frankly.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Thanks to anyone who commented on my last post

The Bible as I see it is just a collection of stories written 100's or 1000's of years after the stories happened by people who knew little or nothing of their original content.

The Bible as we know it is largely compile by Romans.... Later to be changed by Henry VIII from Catholicism.

it's fact that a guy born in Bethlehem called Jesus said he was the son of god, but then again so did David Ike..... "

I believe you're referring to King James, not Henry Viii

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"I am very sorry for the loss of your brother. My brother died suddenly aged only 35 years old. God bless you x"

He didn't die thank goodness. That was due to the skill of the surgeons and medical team. He has suffered the after effects for the last 30 years though.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Thanks to anyone who commented on my last post

The Bible as I see it is just a collection of stories written 100's or 1000's of years after the stories happened by people who knew little or nothing of their original content.

The Bible as we know it is largely compile by Romans.... Later to be changed by Henry VIII from Catholicism.

it's fact that a guy born in Bethlehem called Jesus said he was the son of god, but then again so did David Ike.....

I believe you're referring to King James, not Henry Viii"

Henry VIII started the Church of England. King James had the famous English Bible written/ translated.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

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"For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future. (Jeremiah 29:11 NIV) x

That's great if it applied to everyone.

Yes. I've suffered horribly in my life, and to try to turn it around into some great plan that an almighty god has to redeem me or others is a bit sick, frankly. "

I don't see it as sick. My father genuinely believes and trusts in God. He said those words to comfort me and part of me wishes I hadn't snapped back at him but like you I can't believe that suffering is part of a plan.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future. (Jeremiah 29:11 NIV) x

That's great if it applied to everyone.

Yes. I've suffered horribly in my life, and to try to turn it around into some great plan that an almighty god has to redeem me or others is a bit sick, frankly.

I get it. But I more mean, people have told me that my suffering is part of God's plan to make me stronger or educate others. Uh, no. People and situations have sucked and trying to make it into a good thing to ease your conscience and think less about suffering... Is awful.

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over a year ago

Not sure I do believe in god. I do believe there is something, a higher spirit but not necessarily god.

However I don't dismiss people who do believe. Sometimes people need to believe in something, sometimes it is peoples faith in religion that keeps them moving forward in life.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Which god?

Im a evolutionist but as much as i cant prove a no god theory, Godders cant disprove evolution either...

If faith makes the believe, if not ya fucked either way.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future. (Jeremiah 29:11 NIV) x

That's great if it applied to everyone.

Yes. I've suffered horribly in my life, and to try to turn it around into some great plan that an almighty god has to redeem me or others is a bit sick, frankly.

Yes, I agree. It's that awful phrase "god only sends trials to those strong enough to cope". It simply isn't true but it makes it easier for other people to hand out ineffective platitudes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future. (Jeremiah 29:11 NIV) x

That's great if it applied to everyone.

Yes. I've suffered horribly in my life, and to try to turn it around into some great plan that an almighty god has to redeem me or others is a bit sick, frankly.

Yes, I agree. It's that awful phrase "god only sends trials to those strong enough to cope". It simply isn't true but it makes it easier for other people to hand out ineffective platitudes "

We all have our own beliefs and I think very privately regarding my faith

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Which god?

Im a evolutionist but as much as i cant prove a no god theory, Godders cant disprove evolution either...

If faith makes the believe, if not ya fucked either way."

Slightly disagree....there is proof of evolution, lots of it. Zero proof of a god

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over a year ago

"Not sure I do believe in god. I do believe there is something, a higher spirit but not necessarily god.

However I don't dismiss people who do believe. Sometimes people need to believe in something, sometimes it is peoples faith in religion that keeps them moving forward in life.

If they need that, they need to stop!

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future. (Jeremiah 29:11 NIV) x

That's great if it applied to everyone.

Yes. I've suffered horribly in my life, and to try to turn it around into some great plan that an almighty god has to redeem me or others is a bit sick, frankly.

Yes, I agree. It's that awful phrase "god only sends trials to those strong enough to cope". It simply isn't true but it makes it easier for other people to hand out ineffective platitudes

We all have our own beliefs and I think very privately regarding my faith "

I would never tell anyone they were wrong to have faith. When I'm going through a tough time I want practical help and support though.

My parents are devout, practicing Christians and I can see how their faith helps them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. Matthew 11:28

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. Matthew 11:28"

I'm afraid it's still just words to me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. Matthew 11:28"

A book with no author who was written to appease Jews.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

However the best selling book in the world

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"However the best selling book in the world

So...?

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

Hebrews 13:4

“Let marriage be held in honor among all, and let the marriage bed be undefiled, for God will judge the sexually immoral and adulterous.”

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over a year ago

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That's me doomed

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

You're welcome to believe what you like, more power to you. But using the Bible as evidence of the Bible isn't going to wash, and all sorts of things are popular without them being valuable or true.

You crack on with what feels right for you. But if you want to convince anyone... You're going to need to work on actual evidence.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"However the best selling book in the world

Selling or bought? Different if a church buys millions to hand out. I had one or two at school. Did I choose to buy? Nope,

Bibles given to slaves count?

Missionaries passing them around?

Catholic Church buying to put in schools? C of e? And then which version as not all “Christians” agree so....I do challenge the best selling as most bought by choice.....you know anyone who’s been to actually buy one???

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Religion and the creation of God was created as a means to control people, and brainwash people of dam nation fire and brimstone this was the start of the biggest cult in the world, and it spiraled into different fractions of religion all developed from the book that was created by, and a group of men who were sexisr, were rasist and a bunch of bigots.. Everyone uses the Bible to their own means and interpetate in different ways to justify their actions.

It's hard to belive in a religion when the so called religious leaders commit abuse and give out harsh punishments including death surely if the Bible is to believed then this was not God's plan so for me it's a big fat No!!

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over a year ago

No.

I believe that it’s a lovely myth, if it gives people purpose, strength or community, I’m all for that. I believe people’s faith is one of the biggest reasons for war, hatred and cruelty in the world.

I grew up with religion being the reason for everything and my children have grown up believing being a good person is right because we care about people not because there’s a rewards and point system for an afterlife.

There’s no logic to a god. No logic to believing someone who can control our lives and destiny chooses to allow the horrors of this world we live in. - Mrs

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"However the best selling book in the world

Selling or bought? Different if a church buys millions to hand out. I had one or two at school. Did I choose to buy? Nope,

Bibles given to slaves count?

Missionaries passing them around?

Yes, my dad.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Doing nothing was as honourable as any available course of action. Think of Hamlet, think of Job, think of Jesus before Pilate.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Doing nothing was as honourable as any available course of action. Think of Hamlet, think of Job, think of Jesus before Pilate."

Who says I do nothing?

I actively work to make my community better. I volunteer, donate to charity, am kind and helpful where I can be. I'm just not doing it within a religious framework.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No, here's why....

If we loose a loved one religious types will assure us that it's all part of Gods plan, heaven is the prize that awaits those of us who've lived life by the rules.

This gives comfort to believers who's nearest and dearest have gone before their time.

My Dad was without doubt the kindest and most gentle of men yet he died a long and very painful death.

My son has the kindest of hearts but is currently on a life support fighting for his life.

Auschwitz, Aids, 911.... Is this the master plan of an all loving god? I think not. "

I am so sorry to read this about your son. I agree with your comment entirely. I don’t have comforting words or things to say that will appease me feeling discomfort over my lack of words, just hope that there’s a twist of fate that improves things and that you are ok. - Mrs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

God is an alien......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

When Pilate saw that he was getting nowhere, but that instead an uproar was starting, he took water and washed his hands in front of the crowd. "I am innocent of this man's blood," he said. "It is your responsibility!"

Matthew 27:24 New International Version

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Oh good grief.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"When Pilate saw that he was getting nowhere, but that instead an uproar was starting, he took water and washed his hands in front of the crowd. "I am innocent of this man's blood," he said. "It is your responsibility!"

Matthew 27:24 New International Version"

What point are you making here?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Matthew 27:24 New International Version"

When Harry Potter put sorting hat on, hat said .....”

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Thanks to anyone who commented on my last post

The Bible as I see it is just a collection of stories written 100's or 1000's of years after the stories happened by people who knew little or nothing of their original content.

The Bible as we know it is largely compile by Romans.... Later to be changed by Henry VIII from Catholicism.

it's fact that a guy born in Bethlehem called Jesus said he was the son of god, but then again so did David Ike.....

I believe you're referring to King James, not Henry Viii"

King James yes but the Church of England was formed by Henry VIII due to the pope not giving his blessing to yet another divorce. My point is this....

Both Old Testament and New were written on the back of "word of mouth" fables at least 100's of years later. How can this accurately be relayed on as truth....

Darwin's evolutionary theory is correct,

We never came from Adam.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Matthew 27:24 New International Version

What point are you making here? "

I suspect this is the school of evangelism where if they say enough magic words we'll see the light.

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over a year ago

Matthew 27:24 New International Version

What point are you making here? "

There’s a book? But written many years after the supposed Jesus and with no reference from historians of the time noting it????

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over a year ago

Matthew 27:24 New International Version"

When Harry Potter put sorting hat on, hat said .....”

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By *iddlesticksMan
over a year ago

My nan’s spare room.

Do I believe in God?

God no, or God yes

Oh God I’m confused.

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By *est Wales WifeCouple
over a year ago

Near Carmarthen

Seems that it must be quite an issue for anyone here who believe in the Christian god.

Leviticus 20:10 If a man commits adultery with another man's wife--with the wife of his neighbour--both the adulterer and the adulteress are to be put to death

Leviticus 20:12 If a man has sexual relations with his daughter-in-law, both of them are to be put to death. What they have done is a perversion; their blood will be on their own heads.

Leviticus 20:13 If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads

Leviticus 20:18 If a man has sexual relations with a woman during her monthly period, he has exposed the source of her flow, and she has also uncovered it. Both of them are to be cut off from their people.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Seems that it must be quite an issue for anyone here who believe in the Christian god.

Leviticus 20:10 If a man commits adultery with another man's wife--with the wife of his neighbour--both the adulterer and the adulteress are to be put to death

Leviticus 20:12 If a man has sexual relations with his daughter-in-law, both of them are to be put to death. What they have done is a perversion; their blood will be on their own heads.

Leviticus 20:13 If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads

Cognitive dissonance is a hell of a trip.

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over a year ago

"Seems that it must be quite an issue for anyone here who believe in the Christian god.

Leviticus 20:10 If a man commits adultery with another man's wife--with the wife of his neighbour--both the adulterer and the adulteress are to be put to death

Leviticus 20:12 If a man has sexual relations with his daughter-in-law, both of them are to be put to death. What they have done is a perversion; their blood will be on their own heads.

Leviticus 20:13 If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads

Cognitive dissonance is a hell of a trip. "

Lol. Good point!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Matthew 27:24 New International Version

What point are you making here? "

‘I wash my hands of the matter’ is a biblical expression, which in the mouth of Pilate reminds us that whatever is going on in our tumultuous world, God is always in control. He ‘accomplishes all things according to the counsel of his will’ (Ephesians 1:11).

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No ....there's nothing there ...the bible was just a novel

Have you ever considered the irony of your user name then

Not one bit .. I took it from a statue in Gateshead off the A1

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over a year ago

"Seems that it must be quite an issue for anyone here who believe in the Christian god.

Leviticus 20:10 If a man commits adultery with another man's wife--with the wife of his neighbour--both the adulterer and the adulteress are to be put to death

Leviticus 20:12 If a man has sexual relations with his daughter-in-law, both of them are to be put to death. What they have done is a perversion; their blood will be on their own heads.

Leviticus 20:13 If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads

Leviticus is not where Christians tend to look! Or floods drowning babies...or slavery..or murder...or Human sacrifice ....impregnating virgins....

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over a year ago

I don't really believe in God as a human form, with the concept of Jesus being a man that's genuinely walks on water and turns water into wine. But I believe there's a super power. I'd say it's a super energy that serves a strong purpose that gives life or ends it. The energy that keeps ever expanding (the outer universe) and will probably never die.

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over a year ago

"Seems that it must be quite an issue for anyone here who believe in the Christian god.

Leviticus 20:10 If a man commits adultery with another man's wife--with the wife of his neighbour--both the adulterer and the adulteress are to be put to death

Leviticus 20:12 If a man has sexual relations with his daughter-in-law, both of them are to be put to death. What they have done is a perversion; their blood will be on their own heads.

Leviticus 20:13 If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads

Leviticus is not where Christians tend to look! Or floods drowning babies...or slavery..or murder...or Human sacrifice ....impregnating virgins...."

Christians study the bible deeply and read all aspects of the Word

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There was a fantastic interview with Stephen Fry he was asked if when he dies he turns up at the pearly Gates what would he do. He told the priest he would not want to go into heaven. Well worth a watch it’s on you tube

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Someone start a new thread if they can explain this....

Without using the usual "god gave us all free will to do as we please" line explain how a loving God depicted in religious text allows the circumstances surrounding these names we sadly know too well.

Jamie Bulger, Anne Frank, Edward Evans, Lesley Anne Downey and the rest of the moors children, the list goes on. Suffer little children come on to me aye?

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over a year ago

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over a year ago

I have an open mind. I don't know as a definite whether a higher power exists or not.

But if he/she did then I honestly don't think such a being would give a flying fuck over whether someone referred to them as "Allah" "God" or "Jehovah", whether they thought Queen Liz or the Pope made a better head of church or whether someone decided that they'd quite like to slip someone else a length despite the absence of a slip of paper declaring them part of a union forever?

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