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By *arlomale OP   Man
over a year ago

darlington

Bury and Bolton really struggling so should the cash rich premier league help bail them out bearing in mind the amount of money that agents take out of the premier league For me I think they should and stop little clubs going out of business yes I know some are badly run and why should other clubs bail them out but the money in the premier should filter down maybe the fa need to do more when owners like the venkys took over at Blackburn and ruined them

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By *crumdiddlyumptiousMan
over a year ago

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"Bury and Bolton really struggling so should the cash rich premier league help bail them out bearing in mind the amount of money that agents take out of the premier league For me I think they should and stop little clubs going out of business yes I know some are badly run and why should other clubs bail them out but the money in the premier should filter down maybe the fa need to do more when owners like the venkys took over at Blackburn and ruined them "

Premiership money should filter down, Maybe into the youth system of lower league clubs but not to bail out clubs who are badly run

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Bury and Bolton really struggling so should the cash rich premier league help bail them out bearing in mind the amount of money that agents take out of the premier league For me I think they should and stop little clubs going out of business yes I know some are badly run and why should other clubs bail them out but the money in the premier should filter down maybe the fa need to do more when owners like the venkys took over at Blackburn and ruined them

Premiership money should filter down, Maybe into the youth system of lower league clubs but not to bail out clubs who are badly run "

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By *anejohnkent6263Couple
over a year ago

canterbury

I can't wait for prem club to go skint ...I support lower league football ...Dover afc...at least they appreciate supporters

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm not sure big clubs need to be spending their money to save strugglers. It's a business after all, and all businesses succeed or fail. Do big and successful corporations filter their money down to what are essentially business rivals?

Is it different just because it's football? And it's expected of the big earners to prop up the strugglers.

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By *arlomale OP   Man
over a year ago

darlington


"I'm not sure big clubs need to be spending their money to save strugglers. It's a business after all, and all businesses succeed or fail. Do big and successful corporations filter their money down to what are essentially business rivals?

Is it different just because it's football? And it's expected of the big earners to prop up the strugglers. "

we bail banks out and other failing businesses so why not football clubs they all have people that depend on the survival of the club

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm not sure big clubs need to be spending their money to save strugglers. It's a business after all, and all businesses succeed or fail. Do big and successful corporations filter their money down to what are essentially business rivals?

Is it different just because it's football? And it's expected of the big earners to prop up the strugglers. "

Only problem with this is the Prem would turn into the German and Spanish leagues were you get one or two large teams buy up every promising looking player just to let them rot, which in turn means they are 100% likely to win the league. It just makes the sport boring to watch as you know the outcome before it begins...

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By *crumdiddlyumptiousMan
over a year ago

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"I can't wait for prem club to go skint ...I support lower league football ...Dover afc...at least they appreciate supporters"

Some clubs are better then others at appreciating fans and what they bring to the club but football clubs are there to make money just like any business

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By *arlomale OP   Man
over a year ago

darlington


"I can't wait for prem club to go skint ...I support lower league football ...Dover afc...at least they appreciate supporters"
look at Man Utd the debt that clubs in due to unscrupulous owners couple more seasons struggling and not getting in the champions league yes they may be the so called biggest club in England I think Liverpool may have a say on that would the glazers pull the plug ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm not sure big clubs need to be spending their money to save strugglers. It's a business after all, and all businesses succeed or fail. Do big and successful corporations filter their money down to what are essentially business rivals?

Is it different just because it's football? And it's expected of the big earners to prop up the strugglers.

Only problem with this is the Prem would turn into the German and Spanish leagues were you get one or two large teams buy up every promising looking player just to let them rot, which in turn means they are 100% likely to win the league. It just makes the sport boring to watch as you know the outcome before it begins... "

So a bit like it's already become? Take Blackburn and Leicester out of he equation and the premier league has been won by only 4 teams. Bit boring then.

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By *crumdiddlyumptiousMan
over a year ago

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"I can't wait for prem club to go skint ...I support lower league football ...Dover afc...at least they appreciate supporters look at Man Utd the debt that clubs in due to unscrupulous owners couple more seasons struggling and not getting in the champions league yes they may be the so called biggest club in England I think Liverpool may have a say on that would the glazers pull the plug ?"

Man utd have a global fan base which attracts huge sponsors that's where most of the money comes from, Even if the Glazers pull out due to losing money someone else will buy them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

All to often over the last twenty or so years, we are reading about clubs going bankrupt, having embargoes imposed, etc.

The club has a duty to ensure it is run correctly, and can, by and large, remain solvent, through ‘self funding’.

It is a shame, especially when both clubs have been ‘big names’ in their past, to see them struggle.

However....how much of this is down to players, agents, and outlets like BT Sport and Sky?

Football is, for the ‘big name players’, very high paying. Sky and BT, stump up enormous amounts of cash, to ‘buy’ games.

This, in my humble opinion, means that, usually, the biggest, best teams, get all the reward.

Within one hour’s drive, I can get to a dozen teams, at all levels of the game. Maybe there is too much football?

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By *crumdiddlyumptiousMan
over a year ago

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"I'm not sure big clubs need to be spending their money to save strugglers. It's a business after all, and all businesses succeed or fail. Do big and successful corporations filter their money down to what are essentially business rivals?

Is it different just because it's football? And it's expected of the big earners to prop up the strugglers.

Only problem with this is the Prem would turn into the German and Spanish leagues were you get one or two large teams buy up every promising looking player just to let them rot, which in turn means they are 100% likely to win the league. It just makes the sport boring to watch as you know the outcome before it begins...

So a bit like it's already become? Take Blackburn and Leicester out of he equation and the premier league has been won by only 4 teams. Bit boring then. "

In a 133 years there has only been 24 different winners of the top league out of hundreds of teams and only 3 of them have won it more then 10 times

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm not a huge football fan but I always thought that while there's a lot of money on the premiership few of the club's are particularly wealthy and there's a lot if details too? I suspect at that level it's more sustainable

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm not sure big clubs need to be spending their money to save strugglers. It's a business after all, and all businesses succeed or fail. Do big and successful corporations filter their money down to what are essentially business rivals?

Is it different just because it's football? And it's expected of the big earners to prop up the strugglers. we bail banks out and other failing businesses so why not football clubs they all have people that depend on the survival of the club "

Because the majority of owners, do not ‘suck up’ to the politicians, or, may not have any with business interests in them.

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By *arlomale OP   Man
over a year ago

darlington

Are the fa still selling Wembley to the yanks??? Maybe the cash they get will go towards struggling clubs probably not

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Are the fa still selling Wembley to the yanks??? Maybe the cash they get will go towards struggling clubs probably not "

Why help struggling clubs, when you can reward yourself with a huge bonus?

FA....Fucking Arseholes, more like.

Maybe, football should, globally, do what is done in American Football? Enforce a salary cap for players, and govern more closely, the way teams/franchises, conduct business?

After all, the Glazers only bought Man Utd, to use the funds to pay off debts for the Philadelphia Eagles, which they own(ed).

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By *crumdiddlyumptiousMan
over a year ago

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"Are the fa still selling Wembley to the yanks??? Maybe the cash they get will go towards struggling clubs probably not "

I'd rather the money helped out struggling former players and amature teams then struggling clubs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Are the fa still selling Wembley to the yanks??? Maybe the cash they get will go towards struggling clubs probably not "

Not sure if it’s going ahead now ??

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By *arlomale OP   Man
over a year ago

darlington


"Are the fa still selling Wembley to the yanks??? Maybe the cash they get will go towards struggling clubs probably not

Why help struggling clubs, when you can reward yourself with a huge bonus?

FA....Fucking Arseholes, more like.

Maybe, football should, globally, do what is done in American Football? Enforce a salary cap for players, and govern more closely, the way teams/franchises, conduct business?

After all, the Glazers only bought Man Utd, to use the funds to pay off debts for the Philadelphia Eagles, which they own(ed)."

your not a fan of the fa either I seem to remember the united fans where in uproar when the glazers took over some even refused to go to home games and instead went to a non league club on a Saturday (can’t remember who ) but yes if the glazers did pull out united would be in trouble regardless of sponsorships and being the biggest club in England

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By *arlomale OP   Man
over a year ago

darlington


"Are the fa still selling Wembley to the yanks??? Maybe the cash they get will go towards struggling clubs probably not

I'd rather the money helped out struggling former players and amature teams then struggling clubs"

100% on ex players shocking that some have to sell medals and stuff to make ends meet

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By *crumdiddlyumptiousMan
over a year ago

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"Are the fa still selling Wembley to the yanks??? Maybe the cash they get will go towards struggling clubs probably not

Why help struggling clubs, when you can reward yourself with a huge bonus?

FA....Fucking Arseholes, more like.

Maybe, football should, globally, do what is done in American Football? Enforce a salary cap for players, and govern more closely, the way teams/franchises, conduct business?

After all, the Glazers only bought Man Utd, to use the funds to pay off debts for the Philadelphia Eagles, which they own(ed). your not a fan of the fa either I seem to remember the united fans where in uproar when the glazers took over some even refused to go to home games and instead went to a non league club on a Saturday (can’t remember who ) but yes if the glazers did pull out united would be in trouble regardless of sponsorships and being the biggest club in England "

Why ? Someone else would buy them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Are the fa still selling Wembley to the yanks??? Maybe the cash they get will go towards struggling clubs probably not

Why help struggling clubs, when you can reward yourself with a huge bonus?

FA....Fucking Arseholes, more like.

Maybe, football should, globally, do what is done in American Football? Enforce a salary cap for players, and govern more closely, the way teams/franchises, conduct business?

After all, the Glazers only bought Man Utd, to use the funds to pay off debts for the Philadelphia Eagles, which they own(ed). your not a fan of the fa either I seem to remember the united fans where in uproar when the glazers took over some even refused to go to home games and instead went to a non league club on a Saturday (can’t remember who ) but yes if the glazers did pull out united would be in trouble regardless of sponsorships and being the biggest club in England "

The FA have their uses....not sure what, but, hey...

I think the Manure (yes, intended) fans went to FC Manchester, and Salford City. I am pretty sure, that a few former Utd players are directors at one, or even both, clubs.

Some of the problem is ticket prices. Yes, it costs millions per year to run some clubs, and, someone has to pay. I also think that, to some extent, fans have not helped themselves, by continuing the support of clubs, who raise ticket prices, have multiple strips, thus meaning people buy all thirty three different versions, and paying the wages players/agents command.

Hey ho...such is life.

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By * and M lookingCouple
over a year ago

Worcester

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By * and M lookingCouple
over a year ago

Worcester

Would love Sky to go bump and put an end to it all

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By *tingly ByronMan
over a year ago

In a town Fab forgot


"I can't wait for prem club to go skint ...I support lower league football ...Dover afc...at least they appreciate supporters"

Apparently Chelsea were hours away from calling the receivers before Abramovitch turned up.

He changed the whole way transfers were conducted.

Most were done on a sliding scale of payments, so a multi million pound transfer was spread out over several seasons.

He simply wrote a cheque for the full amount.

A hell of a lot of that money filtered down to lower clubs, it saved quite a few from going out of business.

There's a couple of pages in a Harry Harris book about Abramovitch that's follows the money trail and how it benefited other clubs in the lower leagues.

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By *dward_TeagueMan
over a year ago

wolverhampton

Part of the issue is that too much money is spent on overseas players so the money isn’t reinvested in the football league.

Years ago Liverpool took a punt on Ian Rush who was playing for Chester City and look at how he ended up. My own team took a punt on David Platt from Crewe. That’s two examples of money from the top division being reinvested into the lower leagues. That rarely happens today because PL sides look to buy the finished article. Maybe football league sides have priced themselves out of the market in asking too much when a cash rich PL club comes calling for one of their players.

Sadly I think a club or two will go under before anything is done to change the situation.

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