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"Does anyone have one as I’m off looking at them today and wondered if you have any good or bad things to say about them" Don't get the std (diesel) 
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"Really I love the Ricardo seats so I’m suprised you said that" Suspension is a bit firm so bumps just fire up through your hips and back. I'm prone to back aches so it doubles the discomfort. | |||
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"I wouldn’t have a Mazda to be honest At the moment I have a Mercedes so don’t even know why I fancy a change Yes I’m told the keyless ones are nickable" All cars a nickable, top of the line bmw’s, Mercs and Audi’s are gone in seconds. Keep your keys in a faraday pouch to prevent it but even some of those don’t work. A lead box is pretty much guaranteed to guard from signal cloners. | |||
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"I'd rather have an A3 S line "Yeah - but there's about an 8k price difference... I'd rather have a Golf R but that starts at @36k ... OP asked about the ST | |||
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"I'd rather have an A3 S line
Yeah - but there's about an 8k price difference...
I'd rather have a Golf R but that starts at @36k ...
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not aurenif it’s the same for a fiesta | |||
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"Does anyone have one as I’m off looking at them today and wondered if you have any good or bad things to say about them" I've bought and sold hundreds. They are a nice little car but in all honesty I'd rather a focus st or Rs. Humour me and try 1 before you decide. You can thank me later  | |||
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"We have a Focus ST estate as it’s an older car Getting parts is like getting hold of rocking horse shite not aurenif it’s the same for a fiesta "What year is it mk 2 03 onwards? | |||
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"Does anyone have one as I’m off looking at them today and wondered if you have any good or bad things to say about them I've bought and sold hundreds. They are a nice little car but in all honesty I'd rather a focus st or Rs. Humour me and try 1 before you decide. You can thank me later "Funny I have both and apart from the engine in the focus I much prefer the fiesta as it feels half the size. | |||
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"I wouldn’t have a Mazda to be honest At the moment I have a Mercedes so don’t even know why I fancy a change Yes I’m told the keyless ones are nickable" Mercedes now are doing what bmws did for year. Living on what ppl perceive as a badge of excellence. Horrible to work on drive like a tracker. I bet they burn a pretty colour. Sorry I honestly dont mean to slag your car off but I think they're dog shit. And that's from a dealer | |||
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"Does anyone have one as I’m off looking at them today and wondered if you have any good or bad things to say about them I've bought and sold hundreds. They are a nice little car but in all honesty I'd rather a focus st or Rs. Humour me and try 1 before you decide. You can thank me later
Funny I have both and apart from the engine in the focus I much prefer the fiesta as it feels half the size. "You not think they feel a bit tiny. Dont get me wrong I do like both but I just like the focus much more. Saying that though I've a tiny cock so need a big car to make up for it  | |||
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"Does anyone have one as I’m off looking at them today and wondered if you have any good or bad things to say about them I've bought and sold hundreds. They are a nice little car but in all honesty I'd rather a focus st or Rs. Humour me and try 1 before you decide. You can thank me later
Funny I have both and apart from the engine in the focus I much prefer the fiesta as it feels half the size.
You not think they feel a bit tiny. Dont get me wrong I do like both but I just like the focus much more. Saying that though I've a tiny cock so need a big car to make up for it "No as my preference is for small cars. For me the focus feels massive rather than the fiesta feels small. I do have a smart car as well that is crap but I also think it’s great for what it is. | |||
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"Well I e had my little merc for 2 years now but fancy a change It’s the new fiestaST3 I’m looking at I’ve had a golf already so not sure if I would want another Xx" As I said nothing wrong with them and a real nice drive. It's just down to preference nothing more. Only thing I'd say is drive them all and then decide. Oh if your being new ish and from a main agent. Do all you pricing up get the screen price down as much as you can. Then walk no matter what deal they offer you. Then the day before the last day of the month and make a low offer compared to the deal you struck. Keep plugging at it till you had over penny off you can. Main agent big dealer that type of place all work for a really shit wage but can make a good wage out of it fro. The commission. So end of the month Johnny salesman want as many cars on his commission list as he possibly can. His boss also works the same way. So they will balls as many cars out as possible. Sorry that means they will sell a car at the price it come in at so no profit. But little Johnny only care about number. The more metel he moves in a month the faster his wage packet | |||
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"We have a Focus ST estate as it’s an older car Getting parts is like getting hold of rocking horse shite not aurenif it’s the same for a fiesta
What year is it mk 2 03 onwards?"It’s 05 I believe on the changeover year! | |||
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"We have a Focus ST estate as it’s an older car Getting parts is like getting hold of rocking horse shite not aurenif it’s the same for a fiesta
What year is it mk 2 03 onwards?
It’s 05 I believe on the changeover year! "So the older version or the newer 1. Only asking because I'm sure I've a crate in my garage of bit and bats I've not used. Cant remember for the life of me what but hey what can I say I'm an old man suddenly | |||
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"Does anyone have one as I’m off looking at them today and wondered if you have any good or bad things to say about them" They're horrible little cars that are poorly made,a pain in the arse to work on and are mostly driven by chavvy little bastards that are on their parents insurance.They go well enough with a bit of tweaking though,and can be a good for a laugh on windy B roads.There are much better options in either the same class or same price range though | |||
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"Does anyone have one as I’m off looking at them today and wondered if you have any good or bad things to say about them They're horrible little cars that are poorly made,a pain in the arse to work on and are mostly driven by chavvy little bastards that are on their parents insurance.They go well enough with a bit of tweaking though,and can be a good for a laugh on windy B roads.There are much better options in either the same class or same price range though " Think your talking about an old 1 or maybe 1 some silly lads had his hands on. Each to there own though no 1 option can ever be gospel | |||
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"We have a Focus ST estate as it’s an older car Getting parts is like getting hold of rocking horse shite not aurenif it’s the same for a fiesta
What year is it mk 2 03 onwards?
It’s 05 I believe on the changeover year!
So the older version or the newer 1. Only asking because I'm sure I've a crate in my garage of bit and bats I've not used. Cant remember for the life of me what but hey what can I say I'm an old man suddenly "I want to say it’s a Mark1 but I am a female with zero clue about cars other than I spent far too long trying to get shocks for the dam think! Imported from Germany in the end | |||
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"We have a Focus ST estate as it’s an older car Getting parts is like getting hold of rocking horse shite not aurenif it’s the same for a fiesta
What year is it mk 2 03 onwards?
It’s 05 I believe on the changeover year!
So the older version or the newer 1. Only asking because I'm sure I've a crate in my garage of bit and bats I've not used. Cant remember for the life of me what but hey what can I say I'm an old man suddenly
I want to say it’s a Mark1 but I am a female with zero clue about cars other than I spent far too long trying to get shocks for the dam think! Imported from Germany in the end "A mark 1 has front indicator built into the front bumper. A mk2 has them built into the head light. They look very similar so lots of ppl make the mistake of thinking there both mk 1s but they're not. A mk 3 is a total remodel. Everything is different on them. I think the dash in them look extraordinary plastic the earlier 1s where much better. You had problems getting shocks for it. That shouldn't have been a problem in the least. Top of my head I can think of 10 different suppliers I'd could get them off and alway in stock. Got me scratching my head that  | |||
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"Does anyone have one as I’m off looking at them today and wondered if you have any good or bad things to say about them They're horrible little cars that are poorly made,a pain in the arse to work on and are mostly driven by chavvy little bastards that are on their parents insurance.They go well enough with a bit of tweaking though,and can be a good for a laugh on windy B roads.There are much better options in either the same class or same price range though Think your talking about an old 1 or maybe 1 some silly lads had his hands on. Each to there own though no 1 option can ever be gospel " I'm a mechanic by trade,seen and worked on plenty of them.There are far superior alternatives in both the same class and price range.Just my opinion though,as you say,no one opinion can ever be gospel | |||
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"Does anyone have one as I’m off looking at them today and wondered if you have any good or bad things to say about them They're horrible little cars that are poorly made,a pain in the arse to work on and are mostly driven by chavvy little bastards that are on their parents insurance.They go well enough with a bit of tweaking though,and can be a good for a laugh on windy B roads.There are much better options in either the same class or same price range though Think your talking about an old 1 or maybe 1 some silly lads had his hands on. Each to there own though no 1 option can ever be gospel I'm a mechanic by trade,seen and worked on plenty of them.There are far superior alternatives in both the same class and price range.Just my opinion though,as you say,no one opinion can ever be gospel" Ok I stand corrected. Shows you shouldn't presume anything sorry. I'm in the game to well I've just retired but for me I think they are cracking little cars. Not necessarily a st but the fiesta. Nice drive cheap to buy maintain tax insure nippy as fuck and hold the rd well. I even love working on them but then I do all fords. Opinions eh like arse holes everyone's got 1 | |||
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"We have a Focus ST estate as it’s an older car Getting parts is like getting hold of rocking horse shite not aurenif it’s the same for a fiesta
What year is it mk 2 03 onwards?
It’s 05 I believe on the changeover year!
So the older version or the newer 1. Only asking because I'm sure I've a crate in my garage of bit and bats I've not used. Cant remember for the life of me what but hey what can I say I'm an old man suddenly
I want to say it’s a Mark1 but I am a female with zero clue about cars other than I spent far too long trying to get shocks for the dam think! Imported from Germany in the end
A mark 1 has front indicator built into the front bumper. A mk2 has them built into the head light. They look very similar so lots of ppl make the mistake of thinking there both mk 1s but they're not. A mk 3 is a total remodel. Everything is different on them. I think the dash in them look extraordinary plastic the earlier 1s where much better. You had problems getting shocks for it. That shouldn't have been a problem in the least. Top of my head I can think of 10 different suppliers I'd could get them off and alway in stock. Got me scratching my head that "Ford haven't used the 'mark' system of differentiation between models since the mid to late 70's - but it seems to be something the car driving public has held on to. My first car was a 79 Capri - what many called a Mk3 (basically a facelifted Mk2 - which came along in 78) Ford simply use the model year. The 'mark' system is also open to a lot of confusion. For example, the originsl Mondeo came along in 93 and was Facelifted in around 96 (I think). A lot of people call this a Mk2, but it's pretty much the same car. The next 'generation' (around 2000 / 2001) is often refered to as the Mk3. There were some cosmetic changes around the middle of it's production run but they were very subtle. | |||
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"We have a Focus ST estate as it’s an older car Getting parts is like getting hold of rocking horse shite not aurenif it’s the same for a fiesta
What year is it mk 2 03 onwards?
It’s 05 I believe on the changeover year!
So the older version or the newer 1. Only asking because I'm sure I've a crate in my garage of bit and bats I've not used. Cant remember for the life of me what but hey what can I say I'm an old man suddenly
I want to say it’s a Mark1 but I am a female with zero clue about cars other than I spent far too long trying to get shocks for the dam think! Imported from Germany in the end
A mark 1 has front indicator built into the front bumper. A mk2 has them built into the head light. They look very similar so lots of ppl make the mistake of thinking there both mk 1s but they're not. A mk 3 is a total remodel. Everything is different on them. I think the dash in them look extraordinary plastic the earlier 1s where much better. You had problems getting shocks for it. That shouldn't have been a problem in the least. Top of my head I can think of 10 different suppliers I'd could get them off and alway in stock. Got me scratching my head that
Ford haven't used the 'mark' system of differentiation between models since the mid to late 70's - but it seems to be something the car driving public has held on to.
My first car was a 79 Capri - what many called a Mk3 (basically a facelifted Mk2 - which came along in 78)
Ford simply use the model year.
The 'mark' system is also open to a lot of confusion.
For example, the originsl Mondeo came along in 93 and was Facelifted in around 96 (I think). A lot of people call this a Mk2, but it's pretty much the same car.
The next 'generation' (around 2000 / 2001) is often refered to as the Mk3. There were some cosmetic changes around the middle of it's production run but they were very subtle."Don't really get your point but never mind. using a mk system to Id a car is only a rough idea for a punter to discriminate different model. Like I've done with the focuses about somebody that knows what they are talking about can explain the difference and with any luck the owner of the car will be able to positively determine what model he's talking about as I'm sure who ever it was I was trying to explain the differences to will no what model they own. From that I'll no if the box of part I've got are any use to him. No idea where he is but if there any good to him and hes not far come get them there in my way but I don't want to bin them. Hopefully I've explained that now the 93 mondeo model on is a pile of crap compared to the face lift i think you call it model from 2001 on. From that model on every model has been a cracking car each incarnation has got better and better. The only problem with the monday as i call them is the size of them. So after the reps have finished with them unless you need a big car there not a big market for them which is a shame because as i said they are a good car i love them especially if I'm doing a long drive. They are an easy drive and comfortable so you can just drive and drive. I think you've got your models mixed up as the mk2 to mk3 are a world apart. It's no face lift its completely different shell rang of engine and taxation class. Insurance class to but can't sware to that.the model body is also a jaguar the jag just has different body skins to it look nothing like the mondeo but lift the bonnet hay presto mondeo. | |||
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"We have a Focus ST estate as it’s an older car Getting parts is like getting hold of rocking horse shite not aurenif it’s the same for a fiesta
What year is it mk 2 03 onwards?
It’s 05 I believe on the changeover year!
So the older version or the newer 1. Only asking because I'm sure I've a crate in my garage of bit and bats I've not used. Cant remember for the life of me what but hey what can I say I'm an old man suddenly
I want to say it’s a Mark1 but I am a female with zero clue about cars other than I spent far too long trying to get shocks for the dam think! Imported from Germany in the end
A mark 1 has front indicator built into the front bumper. A mk2 has them built into the head light. They look very similar so lots of ppl make the mistake of thinking there both mk 1s but they're not. A mk 3 is a total remodel. Everything is different on them. I think the dash in them look extraordinary plastic the earlier 1s where much better. You had problems getting shocks for it. That shouldn't have been a problem in the least. Top of my head I can think of 10 different suppliers I'd could get them off and alway in stock. Got me scratching my head that
Ford haven't used the 'mark' system of differentiation between models since the mid to late 70's - but it seems to be something the car driving public has held on to.
My first car was a 79 Capri - what many called a Mk3 (basically a facelifted Mk2 - which came along in 78)
Ford simply use the model year.
The 'mark' system is also open to a lot of confusion.
For example, the originsl Mondeo came along in 93 and was Facelifted in around 96 (I think). A lot of people call this a Mk2, but it's pretty much the same car.
The next 'generation' (around 2000 / 2001) is often refered to as the Mk3. There were some cosmetic changes around the middle of it's production run but they were very subtle.
Don't really get your point but never mind. using a mk system to Id a car is only a rough idea for a punter to discriminate different model. Like I've done with the focuses about somebody that knows what they are talking about can explain the difference and with any luck the owner of the car will be able to positively determine what model he's talking about as I'm sure who ever it was I was trying to explain the differences to will no what model they own. From that I'll no if the box of part I've got are any use to him. No idea where he is but if there any good to him and hes not far come get them there in my way but I don't want to bin them. Hopefully I've explained that now the 93 mondeo model on is a pile of crap compared to the face lift i think you call it model from 2001 on. From that model on every model has been a cracking car each incarnation has got better and better. The only problem with the monday as i call them is the size of them. So after the reps have finished with them unless you need a big car there not a big market for them which is a shame because as i said they are a good car i love them especially if I'm doing a long drive. They are an easy drive and comfortable so you can just drive and drive. I think you've got your models mixed up as the mk2 to mk3 are a world apart. It's no face lift its completely different shell rang of engine and taxation class. Insurance class to but can't sware to that.the model body is also a jaguar the jag just has different body skins to it look nothing like the mondeo but lift the bonnet hay presto mondeo. "My dad worked for Ford for 39 years and I'm familiar with the Mondeo's history - I currently have a 2010 Estate. You've kinda illustrated my point though as you've assumed that I've got mk2 & mk3 confused. Yes, I am fully aware that the 'mk2' was a facelift of the 'mk1' and the 'mk3' was a completely new car (though it retained the floorpan / platform of the previous model - also shared with the Jaguar X-type). Mine is generally referred to as a 'mk4' There was a mention earlier on the thread about a difference between 'mk1' & 'mk2' Focus which suggested that they were virtually identical but for some minor changes in respect of indicators moving from bumper to headlight, whereas my understanding is that the 'mk2' was a complete redesign - which is why I picked up on it. Not really trying to criticise anyone or say that anyone is wrong - just for information purposes for anyone who might be thinking of buying parts for their car from a Ford dealer as they won't know what you're talking about if you go in saying your xar us a 'mark' whatever | |||
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"We have a Focus ST estate as it’s an older car Getting parts is like getting hold of rocking horse shite not aurenif it’s the same for a fiesta
What year is it mk 2 03 onwards?
It’s 05 I believe on the changeover year!
So the older version or the newer 1. Only asking because I'm sure I've a crate in my garage of bit and bats I've not used. Cant remember for the life of me what but hey what can I say I'm an old man suddenly
I want to say it’s a Mark1 but I am a female with zero clue about cars other than I spent far too long trying to get shocks for the dam think! Imported from Germany in the end
A mark 1 has front indicator built into the front bumper. A mk2 has them built into the head light. They look very similar so lots of ppl make the mistake of thinking there both mk 1s but they're not. A mk 3 is a total remodel. Everything is different on them. I think the dash in them look extraordinary plastic the earlier 1s where much better. You had problems getting shocks for it. That shouldn't have been a problem in the least. Top of my head I can think of 10 different suppliers I'd could get them off and alway in stock. Got me scratching my head that
Ford haven't used the 'mark' system of differentiation between models since the mid to late 70's - but it seems to be something the car driving public has held on to.
My first car was a 79 Capri - what many called a Mk3 (basically a facelifted Mk2 - which came along in 78)
Ford simply use the model year.
The 'mark' system is also open to a lot of confusion.
For example, the originsl Mondeo came along in 93 and was Facelifted in around 96 (I think). A lot of people call this a Mk2, but it's pretty much the same car.
The next 'generation' (around 2000 / 2001) is often refered to as the Mk3. There were some cosmetic changes around the middle of it's production run but they were very subtle.
Don't really get your point but never mind. using a mk system to Id a car is only a rough idea for a punter to discriminate different model. Like I've done with the focuses about somebody that knows what they are talking about can explain the difference and with any luck the owner of the car will be able to positively determine what model he's talking about as I'm sure who ever it was I was trying to explain the differences to will no what model they own. From that I'll no if the box of part I've got are any use to him. No idea where he is but if there any good to him and hes not far come get them there in my way but I don't want to bin them. Hopefully I've explained that now the 93 mondeo model on is a pile of crap compared to the face lift i think you call it model from 2001 on. From that model on every model has been a cracking car each incarnation has got better and better. The only problem with the monday as i call them is the size of them. So after the reps have finished with them unless you need a big car there not a big market for them which is a shame because as i said they are a good car i love them especially if I'm doing a long drive. They are an easy drive and comfortable so you can just drive and drive. I think you've got your models mixed up as the mk2 to mk3 are a world apart. It's no face lift its completely different shell rang of engine and taxation class. Insurance class to but can't sware to that.the model body is also a jaguar the jag just has different body skins to it look nothing like the mondeo but lift the bonnet hay presto mondeo.
My dad worked for Ford for 39 years and I'm familiar with the Mondeo's history - I currently have a 2010 Estate.
You've kinda illustrated my point though as you've assumed that I've got mk2 & mk3 confused.
Yes, I am fully aware that the 'mk2' was a facelift of the 'mk1' and the 'mk3' was a completely new car (though it retained the floorpan / platform of the previous model - also shared with the Jaguar X-type).
Mine is generally referred to as a 'mk4'
There was a mention earlier on the thread about a difference between 'mk1' & 'mk2' Focus which suggested that they were virtually identical but for some minor changes in respect of indicators moving from bumper to headlight, whereas my understanding is that the 'mk2' was a complete redesign - which is why I picked up on it.
Not really trying to criticise anyone or say that anyone is wrong - just for information purposes for anyone who might be thinking of buying parts for their car from a Ford dealer as they won't know what you're talking about if you go in saying your xar us a 'mark' whatever"I wasn't trying to act a twat niether your right it is a nightmare but I have to or did have to rather I should say I've given everything up now don't work at all. Go threw it hourly. The only thing anyone like me can do to identify a model is class ever change no matter how small a new mk. The problem lay when like we do interpret it different. Example is the focus to hand. A mk1 indicator in bumper. Mk2 indicators in headlight. Mk3 changed of everything different car. Imagen this phone rings I need to servise my car how much will you charge. Ok what car is it. Oh yes errr a green 1. Sorry I need more details than that. Oh ok it's got 4 doors oh and my iPhone works through the stereo it's really good you know in look really nice. No that's no help. Are you near the car. Oh yes. Ok well look on the boot it should have some badges on it. What do they say.... it drive you round the twist. How can anyone spend thousands and have no idea what they've spent all that money on.. you have to laugh | |||
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"I was only asking about a fiesta ST I’m looking at a new one......not an old one So a lot of these replies have nothing to do with the question I asked in the first place Thanx to all the people who gave advice" Welcome to the world of petrol heads not to mention wondering threads. If it helps any I enjoyed the thread  | |||
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"Well I e had my little merc for 2 years now but fancy a change It’s the new fiestaST3 I’m looking at I’ve had a golf already so not sure if I would want another Xx As I said nothing wrong with them and a real nice drive. It's just down to preference nothing more. Only thing I'd say is drive them all and then decide. Oh if your being new ish and from a main agent. Do all you pricing up get the screen price down as much as you can. Then walk no matter what deal they offer you. Then the day before the last day of the month and make a low offer compared to the deal you struck. Keep plugging at it till you had over penny off you can. Main agent big dealer that type of place all work for a really shit wage but can make a good wage out of it fro. The commission. So end of the month Johnny salesman want as many cars on his commission list as he possibly can. His boss also works the same way. So they will balls as many cars out as possible. Sorry that means they will sell a car at the price it come in at so no profit. But little Johnny only care about number. The more metel he moves in a month the faster his wage packet "This is bollocks! Why does everyone give this advice and still seem to think it is true?! If you rock up and try to do a deal on the last day of the month it's unlikely to get you anywhere because - 1. Salesmen, Sales Managers and main dealers only get paid on what is sold and DELIVERED in the month. If you try to do a deal on the last day of the month, unless your ideal car is sat there waiting to go, there's no time to complete the deal, get it paid for and delivered. 2. Johnny will be too busy ensuring the cars that he has already sold are paid for and delivered to deal with anyone else coming in on the last day of the month. 3. why would Jonny sell a car for no profit? Who makes money that way? From a guy who has been there, done it, and generally got pissed off with people offering £5000 for a car marked up at £7995 at 3.45pm on the last day of the month. | |||
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"Well I e had my little merc for 2 years now but fancy a change It’s the new fiestaST3 I’m looking at I’ve had a golf already so not sure if I would want another Xx As I said nothing wrong with them and a real nice drive. It's just down to preference nothing more. Only thing I'd say is drive them all and then decide. Oh if your being new ish and from a main agent. Do all you pricing up get the screen price down as much as you can. Then walk no matter what deal they offer you. Then the day before the last day of the month and make a low offer compared to the deal you struck. Keep plugging at it till you had over penny off you can. Main agent big dealer that type of place all work for a really shit wage but can make a good wage out of it fro. The commission. So end of the month Johnny salesman want as many cars on his commission list as he possibly can. His boss also works the same way. So they will balls as many cars out as possible. Sorry that means they will sell a car at the price it come in at so no profit. But little Johnny only care about number. The more metel he moves in a month the faster his wage packet
This is bollocks! Why does everyone give this advice and still seem to think it is true?! If you rock up and try to do a deal on the last day of the month it's unlikely to get you anywhere because -
1. Salesmen, Sales Managers and main dealers only get paid on what is sold and DELIVERED in the month.
If you try to do a deal on the last day of the month, unless your ideal car is sat there waiting to go, there's no time to complete the deal, get it paid for and delivered.
2. Johnny will be too busy ensuring the cars that he has already sold are paid for and delivered to deal with anyone else coming in on the last day of the month.
3. why would Jonny sell a car for no profit? Who makes money that way?
From a guy who has been there, done it, and generally got pissed off with people offering £5000 for a car marked up at £7995 at 3.45pm on the last day of the month. "Did I say the last day. If your going to chat shit get your facts right mate. Do you feel better now because you don't look it. You got to love this place | |||
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"I was only asking about a fiesta ST I’m looking at a new one......not an old one So a lot of these replies have nothing to do with the question I asked in the first place Thanx to all the people who gave advice" Get the Titanium Ecoboost 125 - same performance as the ST, but instead of spending money on tarty body kits, you get actual useful extras - I forget which it was, automatic windscreen wipers and lights or cruise control or aircon...something, I compared the two and you got more function for your money with the Titanium. Cracking little car, very nippy, corners on rails, unbeatable interior design for me, and great lumbar support in the seats. Oh and a little engine roar too lol! I looked at the data and it has as much torque as my classic Golf Gti and more bhp I think. | |||
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"Well I e had my little merc for 2 years now but fancy a change It’s the new fiestaST3 I’m looking at I’ve had a golf already so not sure if I would want another Xx As I said nothing wrong with them and a real nice drive. It's just down to preference nothing more. Only thing I'd say is drive them all and then decide. Oh if your being new ish and from a main agent. Do all you pricing up get the screen price down as much as you can. Then walk no matter what deal they offer you. Then the day before the last day of the month and make a low offer compared to the deal you struck. Keep plugging at it till you had over penny off you can. Main agent big dealer that type of place all work for a really shit wage but can make a good wage out of it fro. The commission. So end of the month Johnny salesman want as many cars on his commission list as he possibly can. His boss also works the same way. So they will balls as many cars out as possible. Sorry that means they will sell a car at the price it come in at so no profit. But little Johnny only care about number. The more metel he moves in a month the faster his wage packet
This is bollocks! Why does everyone give this advice and still seem to think it is true?! If you rock up and try to do a deal on the last day of the month it's unlikely to get you anywhere because -
1. Salesmen, Sales Managers and main dealers only get paid on what is sold and DELIVERED in the month.
If you try to do a deal on the last day of the month, unless your ideal car is sat there waiting to go, there's no time to complete the deal, get it paid for and delivered.
2. Johnny will be too busy ensuring the cars that he has already sold are paid for and delivered to deal with anyone else coming in on the last day of the month.
3. why would Jonny sell a car for no profit? Who makes money that way?
From a guy who has been there, done it, and generally got pissed off with people offering £5000 for a car marked up at £7995 at 3.45pm on the last day of the month.
Did I say the last day. If your going to chat shit get your facts right mate. Do you feel better now because you don't look it. You got to love this place "Last day, day before last day, same principle applies. If I'm talking shit it's only because I followed your lead. | |||
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"Just get a Maserati there the best "I guess you've never worked on one lol | |||
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I guess you've never worked on one lol "No I’m no mechanic lol | |||
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"Just get a Maserati there the best
I guess you've never worked on one lol
No I’m no mechanic lol"I've heard that they're expensive for road tax | |||
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"Well I e had my little merc for 2 years now but fancy a change It’s the new fiestaST3 I’m looking at I’ve had a golf already so not sure if I would want another Xx As I said nothing wrong with them and a real nice drive. It's just down to preference nothing more. Only thing I'd say is drive them all and then decide. Oh if your being new ish and from a main agent. Do all you pricing up get the screen price down as much as you can. Then walk no matter what deal they offer you. Then the day before the last day of the month and make a low offer compared to the deal you struck. Keep plugging at it till you had over penny off you can. Main agent big dealer that type of place all work for a really shit wage but can make a good wage out of it fro. The commission. So end of the month Johnny salesman want as many cars on his commission list as he possibly can. His boss also works the same way. So they will balls as many cars out as possible. Sorry that means they will sell a car at the price it come in at so no profit. But little Johnny only care about number. The more metel he moves in a month the faster his wage packet
This is bollocks! Why does everyone give this advice and still seem to think it is true?! If you rock up and try to do a deal on the last day of the month it's unlikely to get you anywhere because -
1. Salesmen, Sales Managers and main dealers only get paid on what is sold and DELIVERED in the month.
If you try to do a deal on the last day of the month, unless your ideal car is sat there waiting to go, there's no time to complete the deal, get it paid for and delivered.
2. Johnny will be too busy ensuring the cars that he has already sold are paid for and delivered to deal with anyone else coming in on the last day of the month.
3. why would Jonny sell a car for no profit? Who makes money that way?
From a guy who has been there, done it, and generally got pissed off with people offering £5000 for a car marked up at £7995 at 3.45pm on the last day of the month.
Did I say the last day. If your going to chat shit get your facts right mate. Do you feel better now because you don't look it. You got to love this place
Last day, day before last day, same principle applies.
If I'm talking shit it's only because I followed your lead."Yes ok and my dads bigger than your dad. You sound like a silly school boy pal hope them wet dreams aren't getting to bad on a site like this. Fantastic name by the way. Yep definitely a victor mildrew | |||
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"Well I e had my little merc for 2 years now but fancy a change It’s the new fiestaST3 I’m looking at I’ve had a golf already so not sure if I would want another Xx As I said nothing wrong with them and a real nice drive. It's just down to preference nothing more. Only thing I'd say is drive them all and then decide. Oh if your being new ish and from a main agent. Do all you pricing up get the screen price down as much as you can. Then walk no matter what deal they offer you. Then the day before the last day of the month and make a low offer compared to the deal you struck. Keep plugging at it till you had over penny off you can. Main agent big dealer that type of place all work for a really shit wage but can make a good wage out of it fro. The commission. So end of the month Johnny salesman want as many cars on his commission list as he possibly can. His boss also works the same way. So they will balls as many cars out as possible. Sorry that means they will sell a car at the price it come in at so no profit. But little Johnny only care about number. The more metel he moves in a month the faster his wage packet
This is bollocks! Why does everyone give this advice and still seem to think it is true?! If you rock up and try to do a deal on the last day of the month it's unlikely to get you anywhere because -
1. Salesmen, Sales Managers and main dealers only get paid on what is sold and DELIVERED in the month.
If you try to do a deal on the last day of the month, unless your ideal car is sat there waiting to go, there's no time to complete the deal, get it paid for and delivered.
2. Johnny will be too busy ensuring the cars that he has already sold are paid for and delivered to deal with anyone else coming in on the last day of the month.
3. why would Jonny sell a car for no profit? Who makes money that way?
From a guy who has been there, done it, and generally got pissed off with people offering £5000 for a car marked up at £7995 at 3.45pm on the last day of the month.
Did I say the last day. If your going to chat shit get your facts right mate. Do you feel better now because you don't look it. You got to love this place
Last day, day before last day, same principle applies.
If I'm talking shit it's only because I followed your lead.
Yes ok and my dads bigger than your dad. You sound like a silly school boy pal hope them wet dreams aren't getting to bad on a site like this. Fantastic name by the way. Yep definitely a victor mildrew "Whatever. You sound like a typical motor trade wanker, have you got the brown pointy shoes, bright blue suit and dinner plate sized watch as well? And I'm not your pal. | |||
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"Does anyone have one as I’m off looking at them today and wondered if you have any good or bad things to say about them" Just sack the ST and get a ZX10R. Although I do believe the ST's come with a years worth of Mcflurry's .
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"There's a 1.0 ecoboost fiesta with 125bhp. Low on emissions no added insurance premium but still be nippy if you wanted." I have one of these and love it! | |||
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"Had a very interesting conversation with Ford regarding there cars, one of many over the past 8 months. Bought a Mustang and lots of problems. And a to quote the dealer 'Its a mass-produced Ford so deal with it'. Certainly put us off buying another one." That’s wrong. Complain about the dealer. Owner fords since I started driving and all have been very good. | |||
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"Had a very interesting conversation with Ford regarding there cars, one of many over the past 8 months. Bought a Mustang and lots of problems. And a to quote the dealer 'Its a mass-produced Ford so deal with it'. Certainly put us off buying another one. That’s wrong. Complain about the dealer. Owner fords since I started driving and all have been very good. " Been dealing with 4 different branches and Ford head office line is 'its with in tolerance and not their problem the paint is bad'. Its going in for a third respray next week. Bought 2 Kuga's and both have been perfect. Mustang is built in America. | |||
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"There's a 1.0 ecoboost fiesta with 125bhp. Low on emissions no added insurance premium but still be nippy if you wanted. that ecoboost destroys itself both on 1.0 and the 2.0 theres plenty of bad info on net already about them" I'm no mechanic but looking on the same forums for 2mins the problems are like any other manufacturer recall (which they have been). It is to do with coolant and overheating. * Replace the coolant reservoir and cap * Replace the coolant. * Install additional electric coolant pump * Vacuum bleed coolant system and reprogramme the PCM | |||
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"Well I e had my little merc for 2 years now but fancy a change It’s the new fiestaST3 I’m looking at I’ve had a golf already so not sure if I would want another Xx As I said nothing wrong with them and a real nice drive. It's just down to preference nothing more. Only thing I'd say is drive them all and then decide. Oh if your being new ish and from a main agent. Do all you pricing up get the screen price down as much as you can. Then walk no matter what deal they offer you. Then the day before the last day of the month and make a low offer compared to the deal you struck. Keep plugging at it till you had over penny off you can. Main agent big dealer that type of place all work for a really shit wage but can make a good wage out of it fro. The commission. So end of the month Johnny salesman want as many cars on his commission list as he possibly can. His boss also works the same way. So they will balls as many cars out as possible. Sorry that means they will sell a car at the price it come in at so no profit. But little Johnny only care about number. The more metel he moves in a month the faster his wage packet
This is bollocks! Why does everyone give this advice and still seem to think it is true?! If you rock up and try to do a deal on the last day of the month it's unlikely to get you anywhere because -
1. Salesmen, Sales Managers and main dealers only get paid on what is sold and DELIVERED in the month.
If you try to do a deal on the last day of the month, unless your ideal car is sat there waiting to go, there's no time to complete the deal, get it paid for and delivered.
2. Johnny will be too busy ensuring the cars that he has already sold are paid for and delivered to deal with anyone else coming in on the last day of the month.
3. why would Jonny sell a car for no profit? Who makes money that way?
From a guy who has been there, done it, and generally got pissed off with people offering £5000 for a car marked up at £7995 at 3.45pm on the last day of the month.
Did I say the last day. If your going to chat shit get your facts right mate. Do you feel better now because you don't look it. You got to love this place
Last day, day before last day, same principle applies.
If I'm talking shit it's only because I followed your lead.
Yes ok and my dads bigger than your dad. You sound like a silly school boy pal hope them wet dreams aren't getting to bad on a site like this. Fantastic name by the way. Yep definitely a victor mildrew
Whatever.
You sound like a typical motor trade wanker, have you got the brown pointy shoes, bright blue suit and dinner plate sized watch as well?
And I'm not your pal. "Haha so funny and I'm afraid I've not got any of that as I've traded them all in for a life of white sands and sun. So this typical motor trade wanker has made a very nice life for himself and has now retired. But hey with your shining intelligence I'm sure you'll be able to do the same. Later pal | |||
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"Does anyone have one as I’m off looking at them today and wondered if you have any good or bad things to say about them" I’m selling a jaguar xe rsport black pack edition at a amazing price probably what your going to pay for your st or not far off | |||
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"Does anyone have one as I’m off looking at them today and wondered if you have any good or bad things to say about them" Have a look at a mini cooper s more car for the money. | |||
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"There's a 1.0 ecoboost fiesta with 125bhp. Low on emissions no added insurance premium but still be nippy if you wanted." Comes with free overheating and dual mass flywheeel issues! | |||
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"Well I e had my little merc for 2 years now but fancy a change It’s the new fiestaST3 I’m looking at I’ve had a golf already so not sure if I would want another Xx As I said nothing wrong with them and a real nice drive. It's just down to preference nothing more. Only thing I'd say is drive them all and then decide. Oh if your being new ish and from a main agent. Do all you pricing up get the screen price down as much as you can. Then walk no matter what deal they offer you. Then the day before the last day of the month and make a low offer compared to the deal you struck. Keep plugging at it till you had over penny off you can. Main agent big dealer that type of place all work for a really shit wage but can make a good wage out of it fro. The commission. So end of the month Johnny salesman want as many cars on his commission list as he possibly can. His boss also works the same way. So they will balls as many cars out as possible. Sorry that means they will sell a car at the price it come in at so no profit. But little Johnny only care about number. The more metel he moves in a month the faster his wage packet
This is bollocks! Why does everyone give this advice and still seem to think it is true?! If you rock up and try to do a deal on the last day of the month it's unlikely to get you anywhere because -
1. Salesmen, Sales Managers and main dealers only get paid on what is sold and DELIVERED in the month.
If you try to do a deal on the last day of the month, unless your ideal car is sat there waiting to go, there's no time to complete the deal, get it paid for and delivered.
2. Johnny will be too busy ensuring the cars that he has already sold are paid for and delivered to deal with anyone else coming in on the last day of the month.
3. why would Jonny sell a car for no profit? Who makes money that way?
From a guy who has been there, done it, and generally got pissed off with people offering £5000 for a car marked up at £7995 at 3.45pm on the last day of the month.
Did I say the last day. If your going to chat shit get your facts right mate. Do you feel better now because you don't look it. You got to love this place
Last day, day before last day, same principle applies.
If I'm talking shit it's only because I followed your lead.
Yes ok and my dads bigger than your dad. You sound like a silly school boy pal hope them wet dreams aren't getting to bad on a site like this. Fantastic name by the way. Yep definitely a victor mildrew
Whatever.
You sound like a typical motor trade wanker, have you got the brown pointy shoes, bright blue suit and dinner plate sized watch as well?
And I'm not your pal.
Haha so funny and I'm afraid I've not got any of that as I've traded them all in for a life of white sands and sun. So this typical motor trade wanker has made a very nice life for himself and has now retired. But hey with your shining intelligence I'm sure you'll be able to do the same. Later pal "In my experience, and I'm no expert, a salesman in the dealerships I've had something to do with will only sell a car at cost price(plus 100 pounds as they still have to make some kind of profit) if the car has been a trade in. Those cars bought in to be dollied up and sold have an expected market value next to the cars age, condition and miles done. If theres a 1000 pound profit to be made for the dealer on a car then the showroom manager will not let a car go for cost price at the end of a month just to get the car off his stock list when the car could sell the next month for the expected value. Unless maybe the car has been on the forecourt for beards and nobody has shown any interest, then they might let it go for less just to get rid of it. Again, no expert here, I might well be talking tripe as usual | |||
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