FabSwingers.com forum: How do YOU define masculinity?

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Or what makes a man, a man?

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

His smell

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh goodness. You’re brave. This should be a fun read

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By *uciyassMan
over a year ago

sheffield

A real mans nor afraid to wear ladies undies when he shits himself after a night out with the lads on the cider

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Being male, mostly

I think it’s hard to say as my likes overlap with general traits. I think smell, their hands, feeling a strong energy. -mrs

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Oh goodness. You’re brave. This should be a fun read

How so? It's a normal question.

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By *ex HolesMan
over a year ago

Up North

Cock length and girth

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By *rwhowhatwherewhyMan
over a year ago

Aylesbury

What makes a man?

https://youtu.be/851BqHMCaeM

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Thighs

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

Which culture are you thinking of ??

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Identifying as male.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

When they make me feel all giggly and girlie!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Someone who will stand up for what they believe in, regardless of the pressure of their peers.

Someone who isn't afraid to be themselves. A person who isn't afraid to show emotion.

Masculinity comes in many forms, but being true to oneself is the greatest measure of a man for me.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Identifying as male. "

Performative masculinity is another thing, and depends on culture and subculture.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Which culture are you thinking of ?? "

I'm asking You, not the Vikings or African tribes.

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity

Slouching on the sofa watching footy with a can of Stella in my vest

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Someone who will stand up for what they believe in, regardless of the pressure of their peers.

Someone who isn't afraid to be themselves. A person who isn't afraid to show emotion.

Masculinity comes in many forms, but being true to oneself is the greatest measure of a man for me.

I attribute those to women too. They don't have to be masculine or butch to show those characteristics.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Oh goodness. You’re brave. This should be a fun read

How so? It's a normal question."

That was my thought, it seems an interesting question about definitions of masculinity.

Tea

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By *W ChapMan
over a year ago

Swindon

"Cock length and girth

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This as long at it's 8"plus and thick as a can.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Which culture are you thinking of ??

I'm asking You, not the Vikings or African tribes."

And you assume i'm white western ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Oh goodness. You’re brave. This should be a fun read

How so? It's a normal question.

That was my thought, it seems an interesting question about definitions of masculinity.

Tea"

Just from similar previous threads. Yes it is an interesting question.

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By *ex HolesMan
over a year ago

Up North

"Cock length and girth

This as long at it's 8"plus and thick as a can. "

Correct, anything smaller you can’t be classed as a man surely?

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Cock length and girth

This as long at it's 8"plus and thick as a can.

Correct, anything smaller you can’t be classed as a man surely?

Thank Allah yours is the size of a giant salami

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Which culture are you thinking of ??

I'm asking You, not the Vikings or African tribes.

And you assume i'm white western ? "

Why would I assume who you are, I'm asking for your definition of masculinity not your ethnic background.

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By *llaboutthewifeCouple
over a year ago

Cardiff

Smile that reaches his eyes

Arms that make me feel safe

And desire, need to feel lots of that

Jo x

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By *hors.HammerMan
over a year ago

Newbridge

Did you just assume my gender

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Identifying as male. "

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By *ex HolesMan
over a year ago

Up North

"Cock length and girth

This as long at it's 8"plus and thick as a can.

Correct, anything smaller you can’t be classed as a man surely?

Thank Allah yours is the size of a giant salami "

It made your eyes water Granny

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Which culture are you thinking of ??

I'm asking You, not the Vikings or African tribes.

And you assume i'm white western ?

Why would I assume who you are, I'm asking for your definition of masculinity not your ethnic background."

It's dependent on the culture of the person that's having their masculinity defined.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Cock length and girth

This as long at it's 8"plus and thick as a can.

Correct, anything smaller you can’t be classed as a man surely?

Thank Allah yours is the size of a giant salami

It made your eyes water Granny

It made my ears weep !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The definition of masculinity is not commenting on the forums, but putting your time to better use. For example giving the lady you love some flowers, or maybe fixing the cv boot on her car. A true man rarely starts threads and that’s why you will never see me on the forums but instead I’m busy fixing a leaking tap or trimming Mavis’s bush next door. Often I am found in my shed, tinkering with my tools. But also I have a very sensitive side, I cried when I watched mamma Mia. Women love all that bollocks.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Someone who will stand up for what they believe in, regardless of the pressure of their peers.

Someone who isn't afraid to be themselves. A person who isn't afraid to show emotion.

Masculinity comes in many forms, but being true to oneself is the greatest measure of a man for me.

I attribute those to women too. They don't have to be masculine or butch to show those characteristics."

I described me. I'm secretly a man.

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By *hors.HammerMan
over a year ago

Newbridge

What makes anyone anything? It's perception. Be it in one's self or in the eyes of another. what you may feel makes you a man may not be what another feels makes a man.

Some may see strength as being manly, while others may see compassion and being a protector as being a man.

It's all perception.

A wise man once said.

“It's not who I am underneath, but what I do that defines me.”

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Which culture are you thinking of ??

I'm asking You, not the Vikings or African tribes.

And you assume i'm white western ?

Why would I assume who you are, I'm asking for your definition of masculinity not your ethnic background.

It's dependent on the culture of the person that's having their masculinity defined. "
Really? If only I could have had that in mind when asking the question...

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hes got to be so macho as the song says

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A father to his children

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Which culture are you thinking of ??

I'm asking You, not the Vikings or African tribes.

And you assume i'm white western ?

Why would I assume who you are, I'm asking for your definition of masculinity not your ethnic background.

It's dependent on the culture of the person that's having their masculinity defined. Really? If only I could have had that in mind when asking the question...

If only ....

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"His smell"

What kind of smell, or is it non specific?

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By *edbath 5Man
over a year ago

london

In my book. A man would defend his family for all its worth.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"In my book. A man would defend his family for all its worth. "

What about single men with no family?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

masculinity can be defined by how many raw eggs you can drink

Thought everybody knew that??!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"In my book. A man would defend his family for all its worth. "

Where can we buy your book?

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"masculinity can be defined by how many raw eggs you can drink

Thought everybody knew that??! "

Hen eggs ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"masculinity can be defined by how many raw eggs you can drink

Thought everybody knew that??!

Hen eggs ?"

Ostrich

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"masculinity can be defined by how many raw eggs you can drink

Thought everybody knew that??!

Hen eggs ?

Ostrich

Yeah .. big man ... big eggs.

Think we've cracked it!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Muscles, but it vary across different cultures.

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By *hors.HammerMan
over a year ago

Newbridge

"Muscles, but it vary across different cultures."

So women don't have muscles?

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Muscles, but it vary across different cultures."

Oh no..... the C word.

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By *ultry SuccubusTV/TS
over a year ago

London

When he walks with bowed knees swagger and his hands by the side holding his guns.

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By *ickDastardlyMan
over a year ago

North East

i dont

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Muscles, but it vary across different cultures.

So women don't have muscles?

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Yes they do have that as well.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Muscles, but it vary across different cultures."

What some cultures don’t have muscles ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"masculinity can be defined by how many raw eggs you can drink

Thought everybody knew that??!

Hen eggs ?"

Free range

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"masculinity can be defined by how many raw eggs you can drink

Thought everybody knew that??!

Hen eggs ?

Ostrich

Yeah .. big man ... big eggs.

Think we've cracked it! "

Eggsellent work G-Crumps!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Muscles, but it vary across different cultures.

What some cultures don’t have muscles ?

They have the luuuurve muscle

*insert dic pic*

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By *llaboutthewifeCouple
over a year ago

Cardiff

"The definition of masculinity is not commenting on the forums, but putting your time to better use. For example giving the lady you love some flowers, or maybe fixing the cv boot on her car. A true man rarely starts threads and that’s why you will never see me on the forums but instead I’m busy fixing a leaking tap or trimming Mavis’s bush next door. Often I am found in my shed, tinkering with my tools. But also I have a very sensitive side, I cried when I watched mamma Mia. Women love all that bollocks."

You missed out the puppy bit, you must love and be kind to animals....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

By the size of their penis! Is that not the Fab way?

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"masculinity can be defined by how many raw eggs you can drink

Thought everybody knew that??!

Hen eggs ?

Free range "

None of that battery crap

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"masculinity can be defined by how many raw eggs you can drink

Thought everybody knew that??!

Hen eggs ?

Free range

None of that battery crap"

They're shocking if you lick them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The characteristics that I associate with masculinity are assertiveness, courage, risk-taking, physical, mental and emotional strength. solution-oriented whereas the characteristics I associate with femininity are compassion, kindness, empathy and love. Neither sets of characteristics are unique to men or women and the mark of being a good man or woman is how well we blend those characteristics given our genetic make up. Emotional Intelligence seems to play a huge part in it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Muscles, but it vary across different cultures.

Oh no..... the C word.

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Yes, the muscle word

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Muscles, but it vary across different cultures.

Oh no..... the C word.

Yes, the muscle word

Muscle doesn’t begin with C, Shag.

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By *ittleAcornMan
over a year ago

visiting the beach

There is probably as many definitions as there are people in the world.

Obviously a large degree of overlap, but each of us will have our own.

I'm also certain that every answer is right. It's dangerous to say this set of characteristics/behaviours are what you need to be masculine.

I've never really fitted the tradition British description. But not worried too much about that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Cock length and girth

monster energy drink can or bigger

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ok, can he lead? Yes.

But can he lead by example? Yes.

Ok, that's a mighty fine start.

Can he listen? Truly listen? Yes.

Excellent

Is he caring, and about more than just himself? Yes.

He sounds like a swell fella.

Do I feel safe when he's around? Yes.

Alriiiighty then, I am listening

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Muscles, but it vary across different cultures.

Oh no..... the C word.

Yes, the muscle word

Muscle doesn’t begin with C, Shag."
I know, but it have a c in there.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Muscles, but it vary across different cultures.

Oh no..... the C word.

Yes, the muscle word

Muh ... Muh ...... Muh for muscle.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

When in doubt, open the book..

masculinity

noun

qualities or attributes regarded as characteristic of men.

"handsome, muscled, and driven, he's a prime example of masculinity"

synonyms: virility, manliness, maleness, vigour, strength, muscularity, ruggedness, toughness, robustness

Now for some reason me being bi, seems to effect others perceptions on how masculine I am to them. Which is odd, also, if I decided to wear a pair of knickers, even just the once.. that'd effect it too.. even though it's just an item of clothing.

Nothing to do with my ruggedness, virility, maleness (it's just clothing), vigour, strength, toughness or robustness. Nor how handsome, muscled or driven I may be. That remains pretty constant regardless of what I do of how I'm dressed.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Muscles, but it vary across different cultures.

Oh no..... the C word.

Yes, the muscle word

Muscle doesn’t begin with C, Shag.I know, but it have a c in there."

You shame me ......

There are lot's of c's in here shag....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bookmarked for later.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Muscles, but it vary across different cultures.

Oh no..... the C word.

Yes, the muscle word

Muscle doesn’t begin with C, Shag.I know, but it have a c in there.

You shame me ......

There are lot's of c's in here shag.... "

It's one of those silent yet deadly Cs......

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"When in doubt, open the book..

masculinity

noun

qualities or attributes regarded as characteristic of men.

"handsome, muscled, and driven, he's a prime example of masculinity"

synonyms: virility, manliness, maleness, vigour, strength, muscularity, ruggedness, toughness, robustness

Conversation in itself. Don't the 'knickers' bring out your femininity or don't you think you have any ?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"There is probably as many definitions as there are people in the world.

Obviously a large degree of overlap, but each of us will have our own.

I'm also certain that every answer is right. It's dangerous to say this set of characteristics/behaviours are what you need to be masculine.

I've never really fitted the tradition British description. But not worried too much about that. "

That is why I put "YOU" in capital letters.

The question isn't about how different culture and subcultures define masculinity, it's about your own opinion.

I'm not here to say whether you're right or wrong, but I may question your answer to get more out of it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"When in doubt, open the book..

masculinity

noun

qualities or attributes regarded as characteristic of men.

"handsome, muscled, and driven, he's a prime example of masculinity"

synonyms: virility, manliness, maleness, vigour, strength, muscularity, ruggedness, toughness, robustness

Conversation in itself. Don't the 'knickers' bring out your femininity or don't you think you have any ?"

That would be roleplaying in my case. Acting. I'm all man. Even as Cixi.. I was still myself.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Bookmarked for later."

You'll be sorry. It'll be 175 disconnected comments.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Eating cereal (bowl, milk) on a train in a onesie and sunglasses

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Eating cereal (bowl, milk) on a train in a onesie and sunglasses "

not giving a fuck

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By *hetalkingstoveMan
over a year ago

London

I think ascribing qualities to each gender is pointless and limiting. Hopefully we move beyond such ideas in time.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Muscles, but it vary across different cultures.

Oh no..... the C word.

Yes, the muscle word

Muscle doesn’t begin with C, Shag.I know, but it have a c in there.

You shame me ......

There are lot's of c's in here shag....

It's one of those silent yet deadly Cs......

P"
Yes it is and there is just one c

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Ok, can he lead? Yes.

But can he lead by example? Yes.

Ok, that's a mighty fine start.

Can he listen? Truly listen? Yes.

Excellent

(Is he caring, and about more than just himself? Yes.)

He sounds like a swell fella.

Do I feel safe when he's around? Yes.

Alriiiighty then, I am listening

The bracket one is a tricky one, because humans are ultimately selfish. Everything you do, including helping others is a selfish act.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

Conversation in itself. Don't the 'knickers' bring out your femininity or don't you think you have any ?"

That would be roleplaying in my case. Acting. I'm all man. Even as Cixi.. I was still myself.

Not necessarily. It could be that certain characteristics you have come to the fore.

I'm more masculine than feminine ( using societal concepts and descriptors ) most times. Sometimes i'm totally passive. Neither are role play.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Bookmarked for later.

You'll be sorry. It'll be 175 disconnected comments. "

Experience speaks

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"I think ascribing qualities to each gender is pointless and limiting. Hopefully we move beyond such ideas in time. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think ascribing qualities to each gender is pointless and limiting. Hopefully we move beyond such ideas in time.

Are you suggesting we all become gender fluid/gender neutral

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

Men drink builders tea. Women prefer Earl Grey

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I think ascribing qualities to each gender is pointless and limiting. Hopefully we move beyond such ideas in time. "

If there are certain qualities you look for in a specific gender there is absolutely nothing wrong with that, as long as you cause no harm to others.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Muscles, but it vary across different cultures."

I was once talking to someone about the abuse I get here that lifting makes you masculine. I jokingly said I could put on lipstick before my deadlift.

He said, tell them to make their lifting masculine, if they can, and let me worry about making my lifting feminine (if I care).

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

Thinking about it ...... If I put a blokes skiddies on ..... I don't feel blokey but more female......... Hmmmmmmmm

I need to chat to Watson.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Men drink builders tea. Women prefer Earl Grey "

Well if ever I needed proof of my gender...... there it is.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think ascribing qualities to each gender is pointless and limiting. Hopefully we move beyond such ideas in time. "

I agree ascribing qualities to a gender is limiting, however I think understanding the biological processes that produce the characteristics of masculinity and femininity can help us to understand them and through emotional intelligence be able to blend them more effectively to develop as human beings.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Men drink builders tea. Women prefer Earl Grey

Well if ever I needed proof of my gender...... there it is. "

Oh shit I'm a man!

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"I think ascribing qualities to each gender is pointless and limiting. Hopefully we move beyond such ideas in time.

Biology, nature, nurture... but allowing people to be who they want to be.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Men drink builders tea. Women prefer Earl Grey

Well if ever I needed proof of my gender...... there it is.

Oh shit I'm a man!

Knew it !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think ascribing qualities to each gender is pointless and limiting. Hopefully we move beyond such ideas in time.

Biology, nature, nurture... but allowing people to be who they want to be. "

Indeed we should be able to use our free will to become what we wish to become and be who we want to be .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Conversation in itself. Don't the 'knickers' bring out your femininity or don't you think you have any ?"

That would be roleplaying in my case. Acting. I'm all man. Even as Cixi.. I was still myself.

Not necessarily. It could be that certain characteristics you have come to the fore.

I'm more masculine than feminine ( using societal concepts and descriptors ) most times. Sometimes i'm totally passive. Neither are role play. "

For me it is roleplay and curiosity. Though I agree with what you're saying for others.

Which is why I lean towards the dictionary definition than what the majority think should be societal norms.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

It used to make me cross/curious/bewildered when people ( adults , teachers, peers ) told me to act like a girl.

I'm a strong woman. I'm straight. Blokes appeal to me.

Took me many years to realise many things not least that I am not from an inferior gender and that being me is pretty fucking amazing and a condescending-assumptive twat is just that - regardless of gender identity.

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over a year ago

"Muscles, but it vary across different cultures.

I was once talking to someone about the abuse I get here that lifting makes you masculine. I jokingly said I could put on lipstick before my deadlift.

He said, tell them to make their lifting masculine, if they can, and let me worry about making my lifting feminine (if I care). "

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By *ensualbicockMan
over a year ago

liverpool wavertree picton clock

"Or what makes a man, a man?"

His ability to miss the toilet and pee on the seat

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Conversation in itself. Don't the 'knickers' bring out your femininity or don't you think you have any ?"

That would be roleplaying in my case. Acting. I'm all man. Even as Cixi.. I was still myself.

Not necessarily. It could be that certain characteristics you have come to the fore.

I'm more masculine than feminine ( using societal concepts and descriptors ) most times. Sometimes i'm totally passive. Neither are role play.

For me it is roleplay and curiosity. Though I agree with what you're saying for others.

Which is why I lean towards the dictionary definition than what the majority think should be societal norms.

I think the dictionary definition is a product of culture too.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Or what makes a man, a man?

His ability to miss the toilet and pee on the seat"

That's a manchild in training. Fully baked men get it on the mat and down the outside of the pan.

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By *ensualbicockMan
over a year ago

liverpool wavertree picton clock

"Or what makes a man, a man?

His ability to miss the toilet and pee on the seat

That's a manchild in training. Fully baked men get it on the mat and down the outside of the pan."

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"It used to make me cross/curious/bewildered when people ( adults , teachers, peers ) told me to act like a girl.

I'm a strong woman. I'm straight. Blokes appeal to me.

Yup. I'm a woman and I'm feminine whether I perform societal expectations or not.

Ditto for men.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Masculinity is defined by how many tools he has in his shed and how many half finished projects he has on the go at any given time

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By * and R cple4Couple
over a year ago

swansea

"Someone who will stand up for what they believe in, regardless of the pressure of their peers.

Someone who isn't afraid to be themselves. A person who isn't afraid to show emotion.

Masculinity comes in many forms, but being true to oneself is the greatest measure of a man for me.

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over a year ago

"It used to make me cross/curious/bewildered when people ( adults , teachers, peers ) told me to act like a girl.

I'm a strong woman. I'm straight. Blokes appeal to me.

It's always infuriated me that genders are boxed into what acceptable and what isn't.

I remember a Padre telling me in the army that the only reason women weren't allowed on the frontline.. is because the Great British Public didn't like seeing women come home in body bags.

Which tells you what we think of our men.

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over a year ago

"It used to make me cross/curious/bewildered when people ( adults , teachers, peers ) told me to act like a girl.

I'm a strong woman. I'm straight. Blokes appeal to me.

I heard similar shit as a boy growing up, especially in a school with a motto aimed at it. Shifting the societal norms is challenge for all of us.

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By *herryblossom_BJWoman
over a year ago

Oxfordshire/Hampshire

A real man can take rejection and be mature as polite about it. As he knows not everyone is for everyone

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By *wist my nipplesCouple
over a year ago

North East Scotland, mostly

Someone who is comfortable in their own skin and doesn't feel they have to fit into society's definition of masculinity.

Same goes for a woman!

I guess I have just answered the question "What makes a person a person?"

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over a year ago

"A real man can take rejection and be mature as polite about it. As he knows not everyone is for everyone "

That goes for women too. It’s about emotional intelligence.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"A real man can take rejection and be mature as polite about it. As he knows not everyone is for everyone "

I'd say that's more to do with nurture than nature.

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By *anillaboyMan
over a year ago

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over a year ago

"Someone who is comfortable in their own skin and doesn't feel they have to fit into society's definition of masculinity.

Same goes for a woman!

I guess I have just answered the question "What makes a person a person?"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Accepting responsibility for your actions .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If he has a man bun or not?

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"It used to make me cross/curious/bewildered when people ( adults , teachers, peers ) told me to act like a girl.

I'm a strong woman. I'm straight. Blokes appeal to me.

I heard similar shit as a boy growing up, especially in a school with a motto aimed at it. Shifting the societal norms is challenge for all of us."

Yes.

If you want to be a "traditional" man, have at it! Just leave guys who don't alone to do what makes them happy.

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By *MP3Man
over a year ago

Between Scylla and Charybdis

"Or what makes a man, a man?

His ability to miss the toilet and pee on the seat"

And leaving the toilet seat up once he's finished.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Or what makes a man, a man?

His ability to miss the toilet and pee on the seat

And leaving the toilet seat up once he's finished. "

Why shouldn't you ? You found it down didn't you ?

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"A real man can take rejection and be mature as polite about it. As he knows not everyone is for everyone "

I think that's a real adult.

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By *ultry SuccubusTV/TS
over a year ago

London

"Or what makes a man, a man?

His ability to miss the toilet and pee on the seat

And leaving the toilet seat up once he's finished. "

flushed or unflushed?

I'm learning here.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Someone who is comfortable in their own skin and doesn't feel they have to fit into society's definition of masculinity.

Same goes for a woman!

I guess I have just answered the question "What makes a person a person?"

that's why I used the dictionary before answering mine

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Or what makes a man, a man?

His ability to miss the toilet and pee on the seat

And leaving the toilet seat up once he's finished.

flushed or unflushed?

I'm learning here."

Unflushed brings certain death!

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By *wist my nipplesCouple
over a year ago

North East Scotland, mostly

"Someone who is comfortable in their own skin and doesn't feel they have to fit into society's definition of masculinity.

Same goes for a woman!

I guess I have just answered the question "What makes a person a person?"

that's why I used the dictionary before answering mine

Touche.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

My grandmother died young of something entirely unpreventable, which took her quickly and brutally.

I remember vividly sitting next to my grandfather at her funeral. He was crying and trying desperately hard to hide it, including rebuffing me when I tried to comfort him.

He worked his whole life in physically demanding jobs with punishing hours to provide for and give the best for his family. He was a devoted husband and father (and grandfather). He honoured my grandmother and the promises he'd made to her father to protect her and give her a good life.

I later found out (I wasn't very old) that he didn't want to be seen as less of a man by letting anyone see him cry. Including his family. Despite all the other traditional masculinity I outlined above.

We owe our men and boys better.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nature makes a man. It just doesn't always get it right.

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By *MP3Man
over a year ago

Between Scylla and Charybdis

"Or what makes a man, a man?

His ability to miss the toilet and pee on the seat

And leaving the toilet seat up once he's finished.

Why shouldn't you ? You found it down didn't you ? "

One should always leave it as one finds it, unless it's up, in which case it should be put down.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not being a sniffly little shit who complains about hurt feelings. Pathetic little fannies that seem to be about all of a sudden

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By *wist my nipplesCouple
over a year ago

North East Scotland, mostly

"My grandmother died young of something entirely unpreventable, which took her quickly and brutally.

I remember vividly sitting next to my grandfather at her funeral. He was crying and trying desperately hard to hide it, including rebuffing me when I tried to comfort him.

We owe our men and boys better. "

My grandad was a train driver. A tough, physical job which left him partially deaf. I always remember him crying at family occasions - it was so touching. Now I look back, I am so glad he felt able to share that emotion.

He would have been 100 today. X

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over a year ago

"My grandmother died young of something entirely unpreventable, which took her quickly and brutally.

I remember vividly sitting next to my grandfather at her funeral. He was crying and trying desperately hard to hide it, including rebuffing me when I tried to comfort him.

We owe our men and boys better. "

that's what I'd define as toxic masculinity.. the idea that it's not ok for a man to cry in that situation.. to be so stoic in the face of such grief.. you cant expect that from anyone. It's not fair.

It's a reflection of society, but not one I think is intended. I think many of us watch films and the like.. take it all in subconsciously.

Men and women of my generation arent too bad at talking about our own issues and our sharing it has helped the generation that's come after and fuelled a massive growth in the awareness of mental health.

That talking, crying, being emotional.. is what's needed to get through periods of trauma, grief, tragedy and stress. To check up on our friends and stop ridiculing people for being different. Less Bully, more Tribal Family.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Or what makes a man, a man?

His ability to miss the toilet and pee on the seat

And leaving the toilet seat up once he's finished.

Why shouldn't you ? You found it down didn't you ?

One should always leave it as one finds it, unless it's up, in which case it should be put down."

I don't have a loo seat.

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over a year ago

"My grandmother died young of something entirely unpreventable, which took her quickly and brutally.

I remember vividly sitting next to my grandfather at her funeral. He was crying and trying desperately hard to hide it, including rebuffing me when I tried to comfort him.

We owe our men and boys better.

It's a reflection of society, but not one I think is intended. I think many of us watch films and the like.. take it all in subconsciously.

I agree GK

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over a year ago

"Not being a sniffly little shit who complains about hurt feelings. Pathetic little fannies that seem to be about all of a sudden "

Wow. Here's hoping you don't have any sons who may want to open up to you with problems.

I find closed mindedness, unapproachableness, and the inability to understand men can get hurt, well, to use your word... pathetic.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

" that's what I'd define as toxic masculinity.. the idea that it's not ok for a man to cry in that situation.. to be so stoic in the face of such grief.. you cant expect that from anyone. It's not fair.

It's a reflection of society, but not one I think is intended. I think many of us watch films and the like.. take it all in subconsciously.

I agree it's toxic, although for his generation it was just expected. (he was a loving, gentle soul, I will say)

But that's why I think that these definitions are problematic. They force people to be other than who they are.

Like, don't be a dick if you can help it, but why can't a man cry, bake, play with makeup, or a woman (say) lift weights? So what?

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Not being a sniffly little shit who complains about hurt feelings. Pathetic little fannies that seem to be about all of a sudden "

I think that's a toxic attitude.

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over a year ago

"Not being a sniffly little shit who complains about hurt feelings. Pathetic little fannies that seem to be about all of a sudden

Wow. Here's hoping you don't have any sons who may want to open up to you with problems.

I find closed mindedness, unapproachableness, and the inability to understand men can get hurt, well, to use your word... pathetic.

P"
Well said P

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

I object to the word fanny to denote weakness.

Fannies are built from steel

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over a year ago

It's a reflection of society, but not one I think is intended. I think many of us watch films and the like.. take it all in subconsciously.

I agree it's toxic, although for his generation it was just expected. (he was a loving, gentle soul, I will say)

But that's why I think that these definitions are problematic. They force people to be other than who they are.

Like, don't be a dick if you can help it, but why can't a man cry, bake, play with makeup, or a woman (say) lift weights? So what? "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Not being a sniffly little shit who complains about hurt feelings. Pathetic little fannies that seem to be about all of a sudden "

Wow!

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over a year ago

It's a reflection of society, but not one I think is intended. I think many of us watch films and the like.. take it all in subconsciously.

I agree it's toxic, although for his generation it was just expected. (he was a loving, gentle soul, I will say)

But that's why I think that these definitions are problematic. They force people to be other than who they are.

Like, don't be a dick if you can help it, but why can't a man cry, bake, play with makeup, or a woman (say) lift weights? So what? "

Agreed again

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By *MP3Man
over a year ago

Between Scylla and Charybdis

"Or what makes a man, a man?

His ability to miss the toilet and pee on the seat

And leaving the toilet seat up once he's finished.

Why shouldn't you ? You found it down didn't you ?

One should always leave it as one finds it, unless it's up, in which case it should be put down.

I don't have a loo seat. "

No etiquette exists for that particular situation

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Not being a sniffly little shit who complains about hurt feelings. Pathetic little fannies that seem to be about all of a sudden

I think that's a toxic attitude. "

And people question why suicide is the biggest killer in men of a certain age.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Not being a sniffly little shit who complains about hurt feelings. Pathetic little fannies that seem to be about all of a sudden

I think that's a toxic attitude.

And people question why suicide is the biggest killer in men of a certain age.

Indeed. In this instance, we need to stop oppressing men.

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By *MP3Man
over a year ago

Between Scylla and Charybdis

"Not being a sniffly little shit who complains about hurt feelings. Pathetic little fannies that seem to be about all of a sudden. "

Shocking.

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over a year ago

"Or what makes a man, a man?

His ability to miss the toilet and pee on the seat

And leaving the toilet seat up once he's finished.

Why shouldn't you ? You found it down didn't you ?

One should always leave it as one finds it, unless it's up, in which case it should be put down.

I don't have a loo seat.

No etiquette exists for that particular situation

hover

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By *onbons_xxMan
over a year ago

Bolton

"Not being a sniffly little shit who complains about hurt feelings. Pathetic little fannies that seem to be about all of a sudden

I think that's a toxic attitude.

And people question why suicide is the biggest killer in men of a certain age.

Agree

If it needs to be let out then I’m all for it if that helps the person. I’ve bawled at sad times, shouted during angry moments and cried with laughter at happier moments. The sadness part is key though, some sort of outlet is needed and shouldn’t be seen as weakness.

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By *kyeman12000Man
over a year ago

falkirk

I cried at my fathers funeral my mothers &my wife’s does that make me less of a man ? I don’t think so

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"In my book. A man would defend his family for all its worth. "
so would a mother tho

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By *moMan
over a year ago

Salford

A cock.. Simple as that!

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By *lex D.Man
over a year ago

London

"Or what makes a man, a man?"

Not controlling. Being in control.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Leaves the toilet seat up

Won't ask for directions

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By *edbath 5Man
over a year ago

london

"In my book. A man would defend his family for all its worth.

What about single men with no family?"

Looks after his mum

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Get your sky remote out boys

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By *wist my nipplesCouple
over a year ago

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By *wist my nipplesCouple
over a year ago

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"Not being a sniffly little shit who complains about hurt feelings. Pathetic little fannies that seem to be about all of a sudden "

That’s the spirit! Repress those feelings boys and men, that works out well historically. Just out of interest, which of you two holds this opinion? Mr.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think ascribing qualities to each gender is pointless and limiting. Hopefully we move beyond such ideas in time.

Are you suggesting we all become gender fluid/gender neutral"

Identity crisis?

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Or what makes a man, a man?

His ability to miss the toilet and pee on the seat

And leaving the toilet seat up once he's finished.

Why shouldn't you ? You found it down didn't you ?

One should always leave it as one finds it, unless it's up, in which case it should be put down.

I don't have a loo seat.

No etiquette exists for that particular situation

I know. It's great. Very hygienic. Saw it first in a hotel and thought ....... im having one of those......

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By *2000ManMan
over a year ago

Worthing

If out in a group, not feeling the need to put any of the others down is a good start to being a man!

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By *ultry SuccubusTV/TS
over a year ago

London

"Or what makes a man, a man?

Not controlling. Being in control. "

Wow..i am so turned on by that !!!!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"In my book. A man would defend his family for all its worth.

What about single men with no family?

Looks after his mum"

Interesting you say just his mom and not dad.

What about if he's an orphan with no siblings?

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By *ty31Man
over a year ago

NW London

Strength, knowledge and wisdom. Ability to cope with life's problems and to stand up for what's right and what they believe in. Willingness to go above and beyond to overcome life's difficulties. Not to be a bully towards others or seek to impose their will on those weaker.

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