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"Is being called a white bitch by an unknown coloured gentleman actually racist? " No it’s a term of indearment ! | |||
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"Is being called a white bitch by an unknown coloured gentleman actually racist? No it’s a term of indearment !" No lol | |||
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"Is being called a white bitch by an unknown coloured gentleman actually racist? No it’s a term of indearment !" This. | |||
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"Is being called a white bitch by an unknown coloured gentleman actually racist? " It depends on his intentions. | |||
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"Yes, if it was the other way round it would be no?" That's what I was wondering tbh | |||
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"Is being called a white bitch by an unknown coloured gentleman actually racist? It depends on his intentions. " In what way? | |||
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"Is being called a white bitch by an unknown coloured gentleman actually racist? " no but the bitch bit isn't nice | |||
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"Probably, but then 'coloured' makes it 15 all! " D. | |||
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"Is being called a white bitch by an unknown coloured gentleman actually racist? " It depends... is it true? | |||
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"Probably, but then 'coloured' makes it 15 all! " | |||
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"Is being called a white bitch by an unknown coloured gentleman actually racist? " actually I've reconsidered yes it is | |||
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"Is being called a white bitch by an unknown coloured gentleman actually racist? It depends on his intentions. " Why? How can you interpret the intention? Is she white? Yes, is she a bitch? Probably not don’t know her to call her that so why should he | |||
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"Is being called a white bitch by an unknown coloured gentleman actually racist? " It's all about in what context it was said and were you offended ? If he was doing you doggy style while spanking your bum and pulling your hair it might be acceptable but it's always about how you see it | |||
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"According to current societal language and rules he was abusive and discriminatory. The current evolution of linguistics says that the word racism/racist now can only be applied to acts upon people of colour. This used to be about systematic racism but now covers all racism. By old definitions, yes it is racist to throw out verbal abuse, but in the flux of language and changing definitions, it counts as discriminatory abuse. Whatever it was, it was not nice at all. I’m sorry someone said that to you. " Thanks for that fantastic definition! Perfect and the answer I needed! It all confuses me tbh | |||
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"Is being called a white bitch by an unknown coloured gentleman actually racist? No it’s a term of indearment ! This." Errrm. This was tongue in cheek. Of course it’s not nice and an insult. Block the arsehole. | |||
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"I actually have no idea how to describe anyone ... and totally didn't mean it in any way racist! Would a "black gentleman" be more acceptable? " Yes | |||
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"I actually have no idea how to describe anyone ... and totally didn't mean it in any way racist! Would a "black gentleman" be more acceptable? Yes " Thanks! I'll not be making that mistake again! | |||
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"Is being called a white bitch by an unknown coloured gentleman actually racist? It's all about in what context it was said and were you offended ? If he was doing you doggy style while spanking your bum and pulling your hair it might be acceptable but it's always about how you see it" | |||
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"Is being called a white bitch by an unknown coloured gentleman actually racist? I’d of thought it was racist ps:the term coloured is also classed as racist" you see thats where i struggle as i grew up that was what we were taught was correct then it was pakistani or jamaican its so confusing like whats the difference between coloured and person of colour then then the music guys and movies throwing around the N word to each other and then expecting kids of all races to not mimic it or the accents its a crazy mind field people need to remember the sticks and stones song unless faced with added aggression thats all of us not any one race just chill and learn folks names | |||
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"Is being called a white bitch by an unknown coloured gentleman actually racist? I’d of thought it was racist ps:the term coloured is also classed as racistyou see thats where i struggle as i grew up that was what we were taught was correct then it was pakistani or jamaican its so confusing like whats the difference between coloured and person of colour then then the music guys and movies throwing around the N word to each other and then expecting kids of all races to not mimic it or the accents its a crazy mind field people need to remember the sticks and stones song unless faced with added aggression thats all of us not any one race just chill and learn folks names " I know and I'm easily confused | |||
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"Is being called a white bitch by an unknown coloured gentleman actually racist? It depends on his intentions. In what way?" You be described him as an unknown coloured gentleman, and I often wonder where the PC rules have defined the lines of racism. Are the intentions of your words any different to his? He's said white and You be said coloured...similar. And if he's called you bitch without white, would it be considered offensive? A huge grey area. Grey not intentionally being ageist By the way | |||
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"I actually have no idea how to describe anyone ... and totally didn't mean it in any way racist! Would a "black gentleman" be more acceptable? " Why don't you just use his name rather than bring colour into it as It's a lot easier. I don't phone up my mate at his work and ask to speak to the black guy | |||
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"Is being called a white bitch by an unknown coloured gentleman actually racist? I’d of thought it was racist ps:the term coloured is also classed as racistyou see thats where i struggle as i grew up that was what we were taught was correct then it was pakistani or jamaican its so confusing like whats the difference between coloured and person of colour then then the music guys and movies throwing around the N word to each other and then expecting kids of all races to not mimic it or the accents its a crazy mind field people need to remember the sticks and stones song unless faced with added aggression thats all of us not any one race just chill and learn folks names " This. Its a confusing world for example British - brit = non offensive Australian - ausie = non offensive South African- safa= non offensive But Nigerian - ni**a = offensive Pakistani - pa*i = offensive Chinese - chi*k = offensive Yet 'ni**a' is thrown about between rappers/grime artists like wwilly nilly. i suppose its down to how the terms been used historically, | |||
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"Is being called a white bitch by an unknown coloured gentleman actually racist? It depends on his intentions. In what way? You be described him as an unknown coloured gentleman, and I often wonder where the PC rules have defined the lines of racism. Are the intentions of your words any different to his? He's said white and You be said coloured...similar. And if he's called you bitch without white, would it be considered offensive? A huge grey area. Grey not intentionally being ageist By the way " There’s no grey area about it, if it were the other way round there’d be murders It can’t be PC for one and not the other | |||
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"Is being called a white bitch by an unknown coloured gentleman actually racist? It depends on his intentions. In what way? You be described him as an unknown coloured gentleman, and I often wonder where the PC rules have defined the lines of racism. Are the intentions of your words any different to his? He's said white and You be said coloured...similar. And if he's called you bitch without white, would it be considered offensive? A huge grey area. Grey not intentionally being ageist By the way " Oh I didn't know how to describe him but have now learned the correct way! A stranger calling me a bitch is rude but a black gentleman actually called me a white bitch ... I'm not used to being called names tbh but that kind of shocked me! I'm not particularly upset by it just more shocked! It would never occur to me to insult someone let alone include their colour | |||
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"According to current societal language and rules he was abusive and discriminatory. The current evolution of linguistics says that the word racism/racist now can only be applied to acts upon people of colour. This used to be about systematic racism but now covers all racism. By old definitions, yes it is racist to throw out verbal abuse, but in the flux of language and changing definitions, it counts as discriminatory abuse. Whatever it was, it was not nice at all. I’m sorry someone said that to you. Thanks for that fantastic definition! Perfect and the answer I needed! It all confuses me tbh " That's just not true. Anyone can be the victim of racism, not only people of colour. Whether a term is racist or not depends on the context and the interpretation, not soley the words used. See UK Crime and Disorder Act 1998 Section 28. | |||
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"Fucking world has gone mad I blame Cherie Blair " White bitch | |||
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"Fucking world has gone mad I blame Cherie Blair White bitch " | |||
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"If he meant it as an insult then that's horrible. I get messages calling me a sexy bitch, they don't mean that as an insult it's just misguided. Just like using the term coloured. The tone of the rest of the message would determine if there was malice in it. " yes exactly if he said you sexy white bitch as a thoughtless compliment | |||
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"Us white people can't claim racism" didn't you get the memo | |||
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"Is being called a white bitch by an unknown coloured gentleman actually racist? I’d of thought it was racist ps:the term coloured is also classed as racistyou see thats where i struggle as i grew up that was what we were taught was correct then it was pakistani or jamaican its so confusing like whats the difference between coloured and person of colour then then the music guys and movies throwing around the N word to each other and then expecting kids of all races to not mimic it or the accents its a crazy mind field people need to remember the sticks and stones song unless faced with added aggression thats all of us not any one race just chill and learn folks names This. Its a confusing world for example British - brit = non offensive Australian - ausie = non offensive South African- safa= non offensive But Nigerian - ni**a = offensive Pakistani - pa*i = offensive Chinese - chi*k = offensive Yet 'ni**a' is thrown about between rappers/grime artists like wwilly nilly. i suppose its down to how the terms been used historically, " What drives all of this more often than not is how it's recurved or interpreted. This is the reason terms once acceptable are no longer acceptable. The terms we use now that are seen as non offensive will become offensive and inappropriate to the coming generations. If we were to consider more about the intentions then we would be much more on track to something being offensive. We've slowly become an offense taken society as a way of getting recognised and listened to in a world of obsoletism. | |||
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"Is being called a white bitch by an unknown coloured gentleman actually racist? " Yes! Only question is, are you offended or not? | |||
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"Is being called a white bitch by an unknown coloured gentleman actually racist? Yes! Only question is, are you offended or not?" I think clearly she was mate but didn’t know what to do with it | |||
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"Is being called a white bitch by an unknown coloured gentleman actually racist? Yes! Only question is, are you offended or not? I think clearly she was mate but didn’t know what to do with it " I was just really shocked tbh | |||
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"The current "popular" acceptable term is "person (male/female) of colour". This basically encompasses all non-white people. Championed by the Obama's, it seems to have taken hold. It can be a bit of a minefield though. I have no problem with black guy, black dude etc but I'm part Japanese and part Nigerian so "person of colour" suits best." Championed by Obama lol, says it all then. Black & White aren’t technically colours either. | |||
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"No. Prejudice can only be against a minority, therefore as whites are a majority they cannot bea victim of racism." Sorry but what a load of old bollocks | |||
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"I actually have no idea how to describe anyone ... and totally didn't mean it in any way racist! Would a "black gentleman" be more acceptable? Yes Thanks! I'll not be making that mistake again! " I'm really confused, your OP said he was an unknown coloured gentleman, so why is everyone assuming he's black? P | |||
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"Is being called a white bitch by an unknown coloured gentleman actually racist? It depends on his intentions. " Mmm, don't think that true these days because where I work if someone overhears something like that then "intention" doesn't come in to it. | |||
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"No. Prejudice can only be against a minority, therefore as whites are a majority they cannot bea victim of racism. Sorry but what a load of old bollocks " Not according to my solicitor | |||
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"No. Prejudice can only be against a minority, therefore as whites are a majority they cannot bea victim of racism. Sorry but what a load of old bollocks Not according to my solicitor " so racism towards chinese is ok then more chinese than anyone | |||
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"No. Prejudice can only be against a minority, therefore as whites are a majority they cannot bea victim of racism. Sorry but what a load of old bollocks Not according to my solicitor " sexism cant be a thing either until theres a world wide headcount | |||
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"Its like common sense flew out the window just to accommodate thin skinned easily offended folks" | |||
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"I actually have no idea how to describe anyone ... and totally didn't mean it in any way racist! Would a "black gentleman" be more acceptable? Yes Thanks! I'll not be making that mistake again! I'm really confused, your OP said he was an unknown coloured gentleman, so why is everyone assuming he's black? P" I meant a stranger sorry worded badly! | |||
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"I actually have no idea how to describe anyone ... and totally didn't mean it in any way racist! Would a "black gentleman" be more acceptable? Yes Thanks! I'll not be making that mistake again! I'm really confused, your OP said he was an unknown coloured gentleman, so why is everyone assuming he's black? P I meant a stranger sorry worded badly! " Ahhh now I get it! P | |||
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"The current "popular" acceptable term is "person (male/female) of colour". This basically encompasses all non-white people. Championed by the Obama's, it seems to have taken hold. It can be a bit of a minefield though. I have no problem with black guy, black dude etc but I'm part Japanese and part Nigerian so "person of colour" suits best. Championed by Obama lol, says it all then. Black & White aren’t technically colours either." So do you think it's up to white people to determine how my ethnicity is described? Like them or not, the Obama's did a lot of good for people of colour in the US and around the world. It's not perfect yet, but every little helps. | |||
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"No. Prejudice can only be against a minority, therefore as whites are a majority they cannot bea victim of racism. Sorry but what a load of old bollocks " Lol indeed! | |||
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"The current "popular" acceptable term is "person (male/female) of colour". This basically encompasses all non-white people. Championed by the Obama's, it seems to have taken hold. It can be a bit of a minefield though. I have no problem with black guy, black dude etc but I'm part Japanese and part Nigerian so "person of colour" suits best. Championed by Obama lol, says it all then. Black & White aren’t technically colours either. So do you think it's up to white people to determine how my ethnicity is described? Like them or not, the Obama's did a lot of good for people of colour in the US and around the world. It's not perfect yet, but every little helps. " Where did we say it’s ok for white people to determine what you keep referring to as ‘colour’? Think before putting finger to keyboard. Not like your luminous orange with purple and pink stars is it ffs. | |||
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"No. Prejudice can only be against a minority, therefore as whites are a majority they cannot bea victim of racism." What!? | |||
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"The current "popular" acceptable term is "person (male/female) of colour". This basically encompasses all non-white people. Championed by the Obama's, it seems to have taken hold. It can be a bit of a minefield though. I have no problem with black guy, black dude etc but I'm part Japanese and part Nigerian so "person of colour" suits best. Championed by Obama lol, says it all then. Black & White aren’t technically colours either. So do you think it's up to white people to determine how my ethnicity is described? Like them or not, the Obama's did a lot of good for people of colour in the US and around the world. It's not perfect yet, but every little helps. Where did we say it’s ok for white people to determine what you keep referring to as ‘colour’? Think before putting finger to keyboard. Not like your luminous orange with purple and pink stars is it ffs." I didn't say it was ok, I was asking you that question. | |||
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"I actually have no idea how to describe anyone ... and totally didn't mean it in any way racist! Would a "black gentleman" be more acceptable? Why don't you just use his name rather than bring colour into it as It's a lot easier. I don't phone up my mate at his work and ask to speak to the black guy " | |||
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"The current "popular" acceptable term is "person (male/female) of colour". This basically encompasses all non-white people. Championed by the Obama's, it seems to have taken hold. It can be a bit of a minefield though. I have no problem with black guy, black dude etc but I'm part Japanese and part Nigerian so "person of colour" suits best. Championed by Obama lol, says it all then. Black & White aren’t technically colours either. So do you think it's up to white people to determine how my ethnicity is described? Like them or not, the Obama's did a lot of good for people of colour in the US and around the world. It's not perfect yet, but every little helps. Where did we say it’s ok for white people to determine what you keep referring to as ‘colour’? Think before putting finger to keyboard. Not like your luminous orange with purple and pink stars is it ffs. I didn't say it was ok, I was asking you that question." Would it help if we brought out the speak and spell? | |||
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"No. Prejudice can only be against a minority, therefore as whites are a majority they cannot bea victim of racism. What!?" ×2 | |||
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"No. Prejudice can only be against a minority, therefore as whites are a majority they cannot bea victim of racism." Oh My God! | |||
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"No. Prejudice can only be against a minority, therefore as whites are a majority they cannot bea victim of racism." I had to scroll back just to see who wrote that | |||
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"No. Prejudice can only be against a minority, therefore as whites are a majority they cannot bea victim of racism. I had to scroll back just to see who wrote that " Pmsl | |||
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"No. Prejudice can only be against a minority, therefore as whites are a majority they cannot bea victim of racism. Sorry but what a load of old bollocks " Technically right but as youost eloquently state completely wrong too. | |||
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"No. Prejudice can only be against a minority, therefore as whites are a majority they cannot bea victim of racism. Sorry but what a load of old bollocks Not according to my solicitor so racism towards chinese is ok then more chinese than anyone" If you're in China apparently it is | |||
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"Is being called a white bitch by an unknown coloured gentleman actually racist? " How do you perceive it, whether something is racist, sexist abusive is down to how it is interpreted by the recipient or those who hear it if it is verbal. | |||
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"Louis Wirth defined a minority group as "a group of people who, because of their physical or cultural characteristics, are singled out from the others in the society in which they live for differential and unequal treatment, and who therefore regard themselves as objects of collective discrimination". Racism is the belief in the superiority of one race over another. It may also include prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against other people because they are of a different race or ethnicity, or the belief that members of different races or ethnicities should be treated differently. Discrimination means treating a person unfairly because of who they are or because they possess certain characteristics. If you have been treated differently from other people only because of who you are or because you possess certain characteristics, you may have been discriminated against. Racism is based on a couple of things—historical, systemic oppression and power, Morgan explained. And as far as history goes, white people have never been persecuted for the colour of their skin—so there's no point comparing their experiences to those of black, brown, and Indigenous folks. "It's slavery, colonialism, theft all kinds of violations on systemic proportions... versus feelings being hurt." There's a difference, he noted, when white people who are in a position of power espouse a hatred of minorities than when it's done the other way around. But Morgan said even if all people of colour straight up said they hate white people, it wouldn't affect a white person's ability to get a job, an education, or increase the odds that they'd get carded or charged for a crime. "If all white people had that view [of black people], that would have a very dramatic life impact on the material reality of all those people." yeah c&p from several sources while i am playing an online game. " Still racist.... | |||
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"Is being called a white bitch by an unknown coloured gentleman actually racist? " I think too many people scream racist at any given time this includes black and white folks. I wouldn't say it was racist rather rude—except if you two are into those type of play than play on. To me, racist need a bigger context. | |||
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"Some people on here are crazy, white people can't be victims of racism, who comes up with this nonsense? " There are levels especially to any minority in a group or society. | |||
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"Some people on here are crazy, white people can't be victims of racism, who comes up with this nonsense? There are levels especially to any minority in a group or society." Agreed but to say it is impossible for a white person to be a victim of racism is ridiculous. | |||
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"Just say You Bitch! No need colour. Easier." I thought that tbh just a straight forward insult from a rude person no need for anyone's colour to be brought into it! | |||
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"Lot of stupidity on this thread. Highlights being.. Nigger/Nigga.. being used in same context as Brit and Chink. Really? That makes no sense whatsoever, "Cracker" Would make a better comparison. Ask any educated person and they'll tell you nobody should throw around the N word, whatever skin colour they have. Black Rapper, or not. Another ridiculous comment being racism can't be applicable when committed against white people! I've been a victim of racism, I'm white. Been in fights because Arabs and Africans took exception to me British. Made to wait longer for appointments in hospitals, civil centres and shops.. In Europe, Africa, South America and Asia. People are racist all over the world. Some show differing levels of racism. The moment you treat someone differently based on ethnicity ALONE.. Positively or negatively.. you are displaying racist tendencies. If said in jest? If it's roleplay? Acting? Then it's not racist.. Provided people can recognise the difference.. So best not to, unless you're sure of your audience. I said my piece yesterday. So I'm not going into detail onto this one. Preference is who you prefer, Racist is exclusion based on ethnicity. If you want to argue about it with me on this thread, you're shit out of luck. Read yesterday's "Black or White ONLY" Thread, before responding. " It pays to learn other languages and keep quiet about it.. play dumb. People say some pretty nasty shit when they don't think you can understand them. | |||
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"The current "popular" acceptable term is "person (male/female) of colour". This basically encompasses all non-white people. Championed by the Obama's, it seems to have taken hold. It can be a bit of a minefield though. I have no problem with black guy, black dude etc but I'm part Japanese and part Nigerian so "person of colour" suits best. Championed by Obama lol, says it all then. Black & White aren’t technically colours either. So do you think it's up to white people to determine how my ethnicity is described? Like them or not, the Obama's did a lot of good for people of colour in the US and around the world. It's not perfect yet, but every little helps. Where did we say it’s ok for white people to determine what you keep referring to as ‘colour’? Think before putting finger to keyboard. Not like your luminous orange with purple and pink stars is it ffs. I didn't say it was ok, I was asking you that question. Would it help if we brought out the speak and spell?" There's no call to be rude, English isn't my first or even second language, I was just trying to understand your point of view. | |||
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"I see a lot of black men refer to white women as white bitches check out the veris of certain members and they say things like this dirty white bitch took my big black cock blah blah blah tbh I don’t think it is racist the original post just shows how he views women he probably says that to black women would he say that to her in the street ? Probably not but as it’s on fab it’s ok to call some one a bitch if he said that to her in a pub I think he might get a slap around the chops " I never said it was on fab! | |||
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"I see a lot of black men refer to white women as white bitches check out the veris of certain members and they say things like this dirty white bitch took my big black cock blah blah blah tbh I don’t think it is racist the original post just shows how he views women he probably says that to black women would he say that to her in the street ? Probably not but as it’s on fab it’s ok to call some one a bitch if he said that to her in a pub I think he might get a slap around the chops I never said it was on fab! " what difference does that make ? I was just pointing out how some view others | |||
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"it's not ok.. anywhere, unless its roleplay.. in which case, it's best to make it clear it's just roleplay. I am quite happy to roleplay things I don't do, or feel in real life... I view women as total equals in every respect. I view all people as equals. Yet I'll happily be Domineering, degrading and disgusting to a woman during sex. Provided I know she knows it's just roleplay, provided I like her, provided she likes me, provided I know she thinks of herself as an equal, provided I know she knows it's just roleplay. Would I post that kind of stuff in a veri? On my profile? In the Forum? No. I dont want the grief, dont need to explain myself, its private between her and I. Acting out a taboo doesn't make you racist. It makes you human. In fucked up societies that don't put tibal human happiness first.. there is no wonder we have fucked up taboos we like to act out and act on. Chasing that taboo and ONLY that taboo, simply because its taboo. May suggest some underlying.. issues. Be it sexuality, race, gender, body type, profession, whatever.. Play, explore, learn, grow.." Yes role play is different and I have done racial domination and degradation role play with men of many races (unsurprisingly, mainly with Turks as I'm Greek ) but of course in real life its different | |||
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"Is being called a white bitch by an unknown coloured gentleman actually racist? " It is racist ,whether a minority or not . If Deb found it offensive and racially driven | |||
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"If I called someone a black bitch, I'm sure I'd be labelled a racist by many on here. When it's a black man or woman saying it about a white person then it doesn't seem to have the same affect. Hmm i wonder why " What's your thoughts on that then, is what he said to the op racist to you? Pretty clear cut to me. Mr | |||
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"What an absolute car crash of a thread! It's the worst grasp of the understandanding of racism I've ever seen on a forum, and that includes 4Chan. Astounded!! " Well said. Surely a community of free spirited , open minded, grown up liberated swingers are better than this? | |||
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"If I called someone a black bitch, I'm sure I'd be labelled a racist by many on here. When it's a black man or woman saying it about a white person then it doesn't seem to have the same affect. Hmm i wonder why What's your thoughts on that then, is what he said to the op racist to you? Pretty clear cut to me. Mr" In a way yes it is racist. I have to say its racist, because if it was the other way around.. People would scream out racist. | |||
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