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 From guys with tents to guys(and women) with cardboard boxes as blankets. If it weren't for the overhanging building creating a shelter the poor blighters would have drowned. Its heartbreaking. | |||
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"I have been here in London less than 12 hours and I have never seen as many homeless people in one place as I have scattered about this city From guys with tents to guys(and women) with cardboard boxes as blankets. If it weren't for the overhanging building creating a shelter the poor blighters would have drowned. Its heartbreaking. "most cities have same problem in fact many seaside towns to its getting extremely common  | |||
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"I have been here in London less than 12 hours and I have never seen as many homeless people in one place as I have scattered about this city From guys with tents to guys(and women) with cardboard boxes as blankets. If it weren't for the overhanging building creating a shelter the poor blighters would have drowned. Its heartbreaking. most cities have same problem in fact many seaside towns to its getting extremely common "I thought maybe it was the prices you would have to pay to live here that had made so many homeless, but in fairness that are plenty too in Belfast and I don't doubt you either Gerry. I was just staggered at home many there are | |||
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"I have been here in London less than 12 hours and I have never seen as many homeless people in one place as I have scattered about this city From guys with tents to guys(and women) with cardboard boxes as blankets. If it weren't for the overhanging building creating a shelter the poor blighters would have drowned. Its heartbreaking. most cities have same problem in fact many seaside towns to its getting extremely common
I thought maybe it was the prices you would have to pay to live here that had made so many homeless, but in fairness that are plenty too in Belfast and I don't doubt you either Gerry. I was just staggered at home many there are"London has always had a lot going back to the 70s and 80s | |||
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"London is one of the largest and most prosperous cities in the world. There’s a lot of money to be made playing the part as the beggar. The majority are actually housed and, not living as you deem, remember nothing is ever quite as it’s made to seem. " This is a major misconception. Yes of course you will always have people who "play the system" but it is a fact that homelessness is on the increase across the country and vilifying vulnerable people as "fake" doesn't help. | |||
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"London is one of the largest and most prosperous cities in the world. There’s a lot of money to be made playing the part as the beggar. The majority are actually housed and, not living as you deem, remember nothing is ever quite as it’s made to seem. " They don't seem to be moving man, I'm here since around midnight last night and came to puregym in Picadilly at 4am and when I left there at 6ish they were still there | |||
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"Was in Cardiff yesterday and it was similar, we also have areas around the city where tent villages have sprung up. It's hard to know what's best to do, I don't like to give money but sometimes buy food or drinks or stuff for dogs. Stopped in a park cafe yesterday and they offer a service where you pay them for a hot drink for a homeless person or sell vouchers thought that was a great idea. Its definately become worse lately though. Jo x" Only one of the guys I passed was awake and he was pitched up next to a sainsburys which looked like it was open. I gave him a couple of pound and told him to spend it in the shop and take his time choosing what he wanted so that he could stay in the heat longer. I maybe should have went in for him. | |||
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"I’ve noticed that shop doorways and under bridges are now laying bricks on edge or small spikes so people can’t shelter in the dry when it’s raining " See this I feel is a bit of a struggle for businesses. They maybe find it tough getting patrons through the door if a homeless person is lying on or next to the entrance. It's still a bit shitty of them like. | |||
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"I have been here in London less than 12 hours and I have never seen as many homeless people in one place as I have scattered about this city From guys with tents to guys(and women) with cardboard boxes as blankets. If it weren't for the overhanging building creating a shelter the poor blighters would have drowned. Its heartbreaking. "Agreed I work in London most of the week and its awful, what a strange world we live in definitely help need there | |||
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"London is one of the largest and most prosperous cities in the world. There’s a lot of money to be made playing the part as the beggar. The majority are actually housed and, not living as you deem, remember nothing is ever quite as it’s made to seem. This is a major misconception. Yes of course you will always have people who "play the system" but it is a fact that homelessness is on the increase across the country and vilifying vulnerable people as "fake" doesn't help. " Have you ever known any of these homeless individuals? I have and, have also been homeless myself at 16. There are a myriad of ways to avoid sleeping on the streets, those living on them are there by choice. (they’d rather do so than stay for months in a b&b or seek out a night shelter) I’m aware that you’re going to find something else to try and shoot me down about, nobody likes to be told that everything is fake. We don’t like the fact that our mothers are likely to have partaken in gang bangs neither, doesn’t mean that it’s not true. You still have animal slaughter and the slavery of women in Saudi Arabia to fight for, don’t worry. | |||
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"Was in Cardiff yesterday and it was similar, we also have areas around the city where tent villages have sprung up. It's hard to know what's best to do, I don't like to give money but sometimes buy food or drinks or stuff for dogs. Stopped in a park cafe yesterday and they offer a service where you pay them for a hot drink for a homeless person or sell vouchers thought that was a great idea. Its definately become worse lately though. Jo x Only one of the guys I passed was awake and he was pitched up next to a sainsburys which looked like it was open. I gave him a couple of pound and told him to spend it in the shop and take his time choosing what he wanted so that he could stay in the heat longer. I maybe should have went in for him. " He would have spent that 2 quid on drugs. That's the reality. You should have given him a tenner, then he'd have had enough for drugs, and booze. But food is never a priority. | |||
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"I have been here in London less than 12 hours and I have never seen as many homeless people in one place as I have scattered about this city From guys with tents to guys(and women) with cardboard boxes as blankets. If it weren't for the overhanging building creating a shelter the poor blighters would have drowned. Its heartbreaking.
Agreed I work in London most of the week and its awful, what a strange world we live in definitely help need there "Such a prosperous city, the capital of England, it goes to show you that the working classes and those forced out of work struggle so much, while the rich get tax cuts and the city gets richer looking. Its not a bit fair | |||
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"London is one of the largest and most prosperous cities in the world. There’s a lot of money to be made playing the part as the beggar. The majority are actually housed and, not living as you deem, remember nothing is ever quite as it’s made to seem. This is a major misconception. Yes of course you will always have people who "play the system" but it is a fact that homelessness is on the increase across the country and vilifying vulnerable people as "fake" doesn't help. Have you ever known any of these homeless individuals? I have and, have also been homeless myself at 16. There are a myriad of ways to avoid sleeping on the streets, those living on them are there by choice. (they’d rather do so than stay for months in a b&b or seek out a night shelter) I’m aware that you’re going to find something else to try and shoot me down about, nobody likes to be told that everything is fake. We don’t like the fact that our mothers are likely to have partaken in gang bangs neither, doesn’t mean that it’s not true. You still have animal slaughter and the slavery of women in Saudi Arabia to fight for, don’t worry. " Why the attitude! And you are very wrong. From the age of 18 iv worked in homless hostiles and night shelters. Many, many times we were full and had to turn people away. I now work with disadvantaged familys and I can assure you this is a very real problem and your lack of empathy is shocking! | |||
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"London is one of the largest and most prosperous cities in the world. There’s a lot of money to be made playing the part as the beggar. The majority are actually housed and, not living as you deem, remember nothing is ever quite as it’s made to seem. " That's very interesting. How much money does a beggar make ? When you say the 'majority' are housed , just how many people is that ? Where are they housed ? What is their mental and physical condition ? Where are you getting your stats from ? I don't 'deem' anything about a beggar's living condition. They beg. Their reasons are varied. I seldom give to individuals. I prefer to give to organised bodies that distribute provision. Do you do it ? Make a good living at it ? | |||
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"Theres a voice Keeps on calling me Plenty fake hobos up here tell u that much i know of 3 gangs that beg but live in houses" That song is now in my head LOO. As I said above, most of those I saw last night are still about. I don't doubt that people could make a living out begging too like. | |||
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"Theres a voice Keeps on calling me Plenty fake hobos up here tell u that much i know of 3 gangs that beg but live in houses" Can’t stop singing that song now 
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"I saw more when I was in Berlin at the beginning of the year, some of the U-Bahn stations (away from the tourist areas) were full on shanty towns with hundreds of them down there, it was quite scary to walk through. Rome was the same when I was there last year too." Why would you be scared? They're just people People who have fallen on hard times, made bad life choices, fallen into addiction and found themselves in a hole Talk to them, engage them, laugh with them, show them humanity, allow them to be human The homeless in Berlin are amongst the friendliest, most intelligent and most human people I've ever met - most of them speak better English than the English too  | |||
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"London is one of the largest and most prosperous cities in the world. There’s a lot of money to be made playing the part as the beggar. The majority are actually housed and, not living as you deem, remember nothing is ever quite as it’s made to seem. " While there are frauds out there. The volume that are bedded up for the night every night and the amount that aren't actually begging suggests you are wrong when you talk about "the majority" | |||
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"I saw more when I was in Berlin at the beginning of the year, some of the U-Bahn stations (away from the tourist areas) were full on shanty towns with hundreds of them down there, it was quite scary to walk through. Rome was the same when I was there last year too. Why would you be scared? They're just people People who have fallen on hard times, made bad life choices, fallen into addiction and found themselves in a hole Talk to them, engage them, laugh with them, show them humanity, allow them to be human The homeless in Berlin are amongst the friendliest, most intelligent and most human people I've ever met - most of them speak better English than the English too "Probably scared because addiction drives people to violent crime in order to get cash to feed the addiction. | |||
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"Theres a voice Keeps on calling me Plenty fake hobos up here tell u that much i know of 3 gangs that beg but live in houses That song is now in my head LOO. As I said above, most of those I saw last night are still about. I don't doubt that people could make a living out begging too like. " then those poor buggers il give some change for how did they cope with sunburn poor buggers | |||
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"Theres a voice Keeps on calling me Plenty fake hobos up here tell u that much i know of 3 gangs that beg but live in houses Can’t stop singing that song now
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"London is one of the largest and most prosperous cities in the world. There’s a lot of money to be made playing the part as the beggar. The majority are actually housed and, not living as you deem, remember nothing is ever quite as it’s made to seem. This is a major misconception. Yes of course you will always have people who "play the system" but it is a fact that homelessness is on the increase across the country and vilifying vulnerable people as "fake" doesn't help. Have you ever known any of these homeless individuals? I have and, have also been homeless myself at 16. There are a myriad of ways to avoid sleeping on the streets, those living on them are there by choice. (they’d rather do so than stay for months in a b&b or seek out a night shelter) I’m aware that you’re going to find something else to try and shoot me down about, nobody likes to be told that everything is fake. We don’t like the fact that our mothers are likely to have partaken in gang bangs neither, doesn’t mean that it’s not true. You still have animal slaughter and the slavery of women in Saudi Arabia to fight for, don’t worry. Why the attitude! And you are very wrong. From the age of 18 iv worked in homless hostiles and night shelters. Many, many times we were full and had to turn people away. I now work with disadvantaged familys and I can assure you this is a very real problem and your lack of empathy is shocking! " You do realize that the council are the ones doing the re-housing/sheltering of the homeless. Just because you had turned them away does not mean that they were not then placed elsewhere. There are funds available to have people set up in premier inns until places are available. There are also private let properties given. (especially to families and single parents) The easiest way for one to procure a council home is to go through these avenues. I haven’t a lack of empathy, as I have mentioned, I am aware that these individuals are not in actual fact homeless. Please don’t even get me started on the Roma gangs. To the poster below, depending upon the area, these “homeless” individuals are likely making more in a day than yourself. | |||
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"London is one of the largest and most prosperous cities in the world. There’s a lot of money to be made playing the part as the beggar. The majority are actually housed and, not living as you deem, remember nothing is ever quite as it’s made to seem. This is a major misconception. Yes of course you will always have people who "play the system" but it is a fact that homelessness is on the increase across the country and vilifying vulnerable people as "fake" doesn't help. Have you ever known any of these homeless individuals? I have and, have also been homeless myself at 16. There are a myriad of ways to avoid sleeping on the streets, those living on them are there by choice. (they’d rather do so than stay for months in a b&b or seek out a night shelter) I’m aware that you’re going to find something else to try and shoot me down about, nobody likes to be told that everything is fake. We don’t like the fact that our mothers are likely to have partaken in gang bangs neither, doesn’t mean that it’s not true. You still have animal slaughter and the slavery of women in Saudi Arabia to fight for, don’t worry. Why the attitude! And you are very wrong. From the age of 18 iv worked in homless hostiles and night shelters. Many, many times we were full and had to turn people away. I now work with disadvantaged familys and I can assure you this is a very real problem and your lack of empathy is shocking! You do realize that the council are the ones doing the re-housing/sheltering of the homeless. Just because you had turned them away does not mean that they were not then placed elsewhere. There are funds available to have people set up in premier inns until places are available. There are also private let properties given. (especially to families and single parents) The easiest way for one to procure a council home is to go through these avenues. I haven’t a lack of empathy, as I have mentioned, I am aware that these individuals are not in actual fact homeless. Please don’t even get me started on the Roma gangs. To the poster below, depending upon the area, these “homeless” individuals are likely making more in a day than yourself. " They were not housed elsewhere as alot of them slept outside the hostel as they felt it was safer. | |||
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"London is one of the largest and most prosperous cities in the world. There’s a lot of money to be made playing the part as the beggar. The majority are actually housed and, not living as you deem, remember nothing is ever quite as it’s made to seem. This is a major misconception. Yes of course you will always have people who "play the system" but it is a fact that homelessness is on the increase across the country and vilifying vulnerable people as "fake" doesn't help. " the truth lies in between ... there is growing housing poverty or disfunction, but we see people bussed into Kingston to beg in the morning and bussed out in the evening, we have over 110,000 visitors a day due to being a shoppers and transport hub and Hampton Court down the road ... it is never what it seems on face value (like some on Fab) | |||
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"London is one of the largest and most prosperous cities in the world. There’s a lot of money to be made playing the part as the beggar. The majority are actually housed and, not living as you deem, remember nothing is ever quite as it’s made to seem. This is a major misconception. Yes of course you will always have people who "play the system" but it is a fact that homelessness is on the increase across the country and vilifying vulnerable people as "fake" doesn't help. the truth lies in between ... there is growing housing poverty or disfunction, but we see people bussed into Kingston to beg in the morning and bussed out in the evening, we have over 110,000 visitors a day due to being a shoppers and transport hub and Hampton Court down the road ... it is never what it seems on face value (like some on Fab) " I don't doubt that this happens but it is definitely not the majority. I really think we like to convince ourselves these people are not really homeless to make ourselves feel better about the situation. I work with vulnerable people and its a massive issue. | |||
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"I saw more when I was in Berlin at the beginning of the year, some of the U-Bahn stations (away from the tourist areas) were full on shanty towns with hundreds of them down there, it was quite scary to walk through. Rome was the same when I was there last year too. Why would you be scared? They're just people People who have fallen on hard times, made bad life choices, fallen into addiction and found themselves in a hole Talk to them, engage them, laugh with them, show them humanity, allow them to be human The homeless in Berlin are amongst the friendliest, most intelligent and most human people I've ever met - most of them speak better English than the English too
Probably scared because addiction drives people to violent crime in order to get cash to feed the addiction. "Honestly Clem, I've spent a lot of the last 10 years in Berlin - I know of the places Yorkie mentioned I've never seen any street crime I'm not denying it exists, it's just I've never seen it You'll get aggressive pissheads or people whacked out of their heads creating a 'scene' anywhere, but by far and large, my experience is that they are down at heel, peace loving hippy types I hope that doesn't come across as a romantic view of homelessness as that is not the intent Maybe it's just me, homeless people don't scare me, homelessness does As Bladey alluded to above, for many, it is a closer reality than they know | |||
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"In my part of London next to the train station there is a big greenery area a lots of the homeless tend to sleep there.Then during the day some are outside the train station drinking alcohol , begging for money , and no disrespect meant but older haggard women offering prostitution.Yes homeless is real in my part of London." Oh my days. My fucking Good God..... Older Haggard Women .......... poor you having to see that. Older Haggard Women offering sex for money. If you have to preface a sentence with no disrespect...... it's disrespectful. | |||
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"I saw more when I was in Berlin at the beginning of the year, some of the U-Bahn stations (away from the tourist areas) were full on shanty towns with hundreds of them down there, it was quite scary to walk through. Rome was the same when I was there last year too. Why would you be scared? They're just people People who have fallen on hard times, made bad life choices, fallen into addiction and found themselves in a hole Talk to them, engage them, laugh with them, show them humanity, allow them to be human The homeless in Berlin are amongst the friendliest, most intelligent and most human people I've ever met - most of them speak better English than the English too "Because of the wails and shrieks coming from under the piles of blankets and cardboard and the drug paraphernalia all over the floor around them, and most of them were not German, they were the angry middle eastern young men who Merkel let in en masse with no plan for them. On one night walking back to my hotel in Alexanderplatz a huge street fight broke out around me between Syrians and Afghans followed sharply by one of the most robust police responses I've ever seen, I didn't really know what was going on when it kicked off but it was in the news the next morning so filled in the gaps. | |||
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"London is one of the largest and most prosperous cities in the world. There’s a lot of money to be made playing the part as the beggar. The majority are actually housed and, not living as you deem, remember nothing is ever quite as it’s made to seem. While there are frauds out there. The volume that are bedded up for the night every night and the amount that aren't actually begging suggests you are wrong when you talk about "the majority"" The majority is equaling to the mass proportion. Those that are sat in incredibly busy and public places are begging, it matters not if they physically ask, they are aware it’ll be given. Those not in shelters are generally the old asylum fodder. Yet, we had done away with those to give them “care in the community”, which, is quite honestly an ineffective waste of public funds in comparison. These individuals are incapable of looking after themselves and, likely violent and have been struck off of being allowed temporary housing/shelter. If euthanasia were allowed, these are the individuals that it would be humane to use it on. This is said out of empathy, they’re the ones that will likely never be able to ever function again in normal society, nor leave the streets and, shall likely die there. It is more humane to allow them to pass in a warm and sterile surrounding than, from an overdose under a bridge, alone. | |||
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"London is one of the largest and most prosperous cities in the world. There’s a lot of money to be made playing the part as the beggar. The majority are actually housed and, not living as you deem, remember nothing is ever quite as it’s made to seem. While there are frauds out there. The volume that are bedded up for the night every night and the amount that aren't actually begging suggests you are wrong when you talk about "the majority" The majority is equaling to the mass proportion. Those that are sat in incredibly busy and public places are begging, it matters not if they physically ask, they are aware it’ll be given. Those not in shelters are generally the old asylum fodder. Yet, we had done away with those to give them “care in the community”, which, is quite honestly an ineffective waste of public funds in comparison. These individuals are incapable of looking after themselves and, likely violent and have been struck off of being allowed temporary housing/shelter. If euthanasia were allowed, these are the individuals that it would be humane to use it on. This is said out of empathy, they’re the ones that will likely never be able to ever function again in normal society, nor leave the streets and, shall likely die there. It is more humane to allow them to pass in a warm and sterile surrounding than, from an overdose under a bridge, alone. " Wow! Your attitude is unbelievable! | |||
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"In my part of London next to the train station there is a big greenery area a lots of the homeless tend to sleep there.Then during the day some are outside the train station drinking alcohol , begging for money , and no disrespect meant but older haggard women offering prostitution.Yes homeless is real in my part of London." You described addiction, not homelessness. These individuals may not have a permanent address, they do have a permanent bed though, as long as they don’t create misery for the other “guests”. | |||
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"London is one of the largest and most prosperous cities in the world. There’s a lot of money to be made playing the part as the beggar. The majority are actually housed and, not living as you deem, remember nothing is ever quite as it’s made to seem. While there are frauds out there. The volume that are bedded up for the night every night and the amount that aren't actually begging suggests you are wrong when you talk about "the majority" The majority is equaling to the mass proportion. Those that are sat in incredibly busy and public places are begging, it matters not if they physically ask, they are aware it’ll be given. Those not in shelters are generally the old asylum fodder. Yet, we had done away with those to give them “care in the community”, which, is quite honestly an ineffective waste of public funds in comparison. These individuals are incapable of looking after themselves and, likely violent and have been struck off of being allowed temporary housing/shelter. If euthanasia were allowed, these are the individuals that it would be humane to use it on. This is said out of empathy, they’re the ones that will likely never be able to ever function again in normal society, nor leave the streets and, shall likely die there. It is more humane to allow them to pass in a warm and sterile surrounding than, from an overdose under a bridge, alone. Wow! Your attitude is unbelievable! " You can’t keep making these unintelligible remarks to my posts. If you feel as such, TELL ME WHY, you can’t make a shock remark without the reasonings for it. | |||
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"London is one of the largest and most prosperous cities in the world. There’s a lot of money to be made playing the part as the beggar. The majority are actually housed and, not living as you deem, remember nothing is ever quite as it’s made to seem. " This is completely false. I work in London in this area and can attest to the fact this is an uneducated assumption. Come on down and I’ll educate you. | |||
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"What's worse is most ppl are unfortunately only a wage packet away from it. " I'm sorry but for such an important issue that needs addressing I think that your statement is not only trivial but a gross exaggeration. The vast majority are no way close to being homeless and in a way that's part of the problem because people can't understand or empathise with the genuine homeless. | |||
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"In my part of London next to the train station there is a big greenery area a lots of the homeless tend to sleep there.Then during the day some are outside the train station drinking alcohol , begging for money , and no disrespect meant but older haggard women offering prostitution.Yes homeless is real in my part of London. You described addiction, not homelessness. These individuals may not have a permanent address, they do have a permanent bed though, as long as they don’t create misery for the other “guests”. " . Apologies maybe it’s addiction but if I am driving home at 2.00 am and can see 5-10 sleeping on the greenery area I would consider that homeless but yes I take your point regarding addiction. | |||
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"London is one of the largest and most prosperous cities in the world. There’s a lot of money to be made playing the part as the beggar. The majority are actually housed and, not living as you deem, remember nothing is ever quite as it’s made to seem. While there are frauds out there. The volume that are bedded up for the night every night and the amount that aren't actually begging suggests you are wrong when you talk about "the majority" The majority is equaling to the mass proportion. Those that are sat in incredibly busy and public places are begging, it matters not if they physically ask, they are aware it’ll be given. Those not in shelters are generally the old asylum fodder. Yet, we had done away with those to give them “care in the community”, which, is quite honestly an ineffective waste of public funds in comparison. These individuals are incapable of looking after themselves and, likely violent and have been struck off of being allowed temporary housing/shelter. If euthanasia were allowed, these are the individuals that it would be humane to use it on. This is said out of empathy, they’re the ones that will likely never be able to ever function again in normal society, nor leave the streets and, shall likely die there. It is more humane to allow them to pass in a warm and sterile surrounding than, from an overdose under a bridge, alone. " Again, miseducated and actually worryingly so. | |||
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"I had to take a deep breath. Didn't want to rant. 20 years ago I was made homeless with 2 young toddlers as my landlord committed major fraud and his property seized. A local vicar and wife took us in. Last year similar when then husband ran off with a woman having secretly not paid the rent. £2500 rent debt, I was an hour from being evicted in the courtroom. So, folk with a nice house, car, decent holidays,imagine it all being pulled from under you. All of it. Be that redundancy, break up illness. Your home. Gone. Yes there are beggars. However there are genuine homeless people who literally do not have a home, a toilet, a bathroom, somewhere to put their feet up, of their own. It could happen to any of you. It happened to them. " Well said, people are so ignorant it is unreal  | |||
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"I saw more when I was in Berlin at the beginning of the year, some of the U-Bahn stations (away from the tourist areas) were full on shanty towns with hundreds of them down there, it was quite scary to walk through. Rome was the same when I was there last year too. Why would you be scared? They're just people People who have fallen on hard times, made bad life choices, fallen into addiction and found themselves in a hole Talk to them, engage them, laugh with them, show them humanity, allow them to be human The homeless in Berlin are amongst the friendliest, most intelligent and most human people I've ever met - most of them speak better English than the English too
Because of the wails and shrieks coming from under the piles of blankets and cardboard and the drug paraphernalia all over the floor around them, and most of them were not German, they were the angry middle eastern young men who Merkel let in en masse with no plan for them.
On one night walking back to my hotel in Alexanderplatz a huge street fight broke out around me between Syrians and Afghans followed sharply by one of the most robust police responses I've ever seen, I didn't really know what was going on when it kicked off but it was in the news the next morning so filled in the gaps."Erm ... yeah, you got it in one word, Alexanderplatz Berlin at its worst imho, although areas of Kreuzberg come a close second (but, of course, only the bits that haven't been gentrified - yet) The sounds and drug debris wouldn't scare me Street brawls would | |||
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"London is one of the largest and most prosperous cities in the world. There’s a lot of money to be made playing the part as the beggar. The majority are actually housed and, not living as you deem, remember nothing is ever quite as it’s made to seem. This is a major misconception. Yes of course you will always have people who "play the system" but it is a fact that homelessness is on the increase across the country and vilifying vulnerable people as "fake" doesn't help. " I couldn’t agree more with Lorna ..... there are very very few people sleeping rough to beg and make money ..... such an incredible thought to even dream up ..... ridiculously overpriced housing and the scourge that is drugs is to blame in my opinion .... I was in Birmingham recently and it seemed just like Cork Dublin and other cities , London is a step above and a sad indictment O’D the society we live in ..... nobody wants to help these poor folk except the very few Good Samaritans amongst us .... | |||
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"London is one of the largest and most prosperous cities in the world. There’s a lot of money to be made playing the part as the beggar. The majority are actually housed and, not living as you deem, remember nothing is ever quite as it’s made to seem. While there are frauds out there. The volume that are bedded up for the night every night and the amount that aren't actually begging suggests you are wrong when you talk about "the majority" The majority is equaling to the mass proportion. Those that are sat in incredibly busy and public places are begging, it matters not if they physically ask, they are aware it’ll be given. Those not in shelters are generally the old asylum fodder. Yet, we had done away with those to give them “care in the community”, which, is quite honestly an ineffective waste of public funds in comparison. These individuals are incapable of looking after themselves and, likely violent and have been struck off of being allowed temporary housing/shelter. If euthanasia were allowed, these are the individuals that it would be humane to use it on. This is said out of empathy, they’re the ones that will likely never be able to ever function again in normal society, nor leave the streets and, shall likely die there. It is more humane to allow them to pass in a warm and sterile surrounding than, from an overdose under a bridge, alone. Again, miseducated and actually worryingly so. " What is? You’re simply denying all of my points as being wrong, without any reasoning or examples of why. In relation to your other post - Your post is just as uneducated, read “majority” also, housed does not mean permanent address, it means sheltered from the elements. I lived In Glasgow for many years, I’m rather aware of homelessness and addiction. | |||
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"Was in Cardiff yesterday and it was similar, we also have areas around the city where tent villages have sprung up. It's hard to know what's best to do, I don't like to give money but sometimes buy food or drinks or stuff for dogs. Stopped in a park cafe yesterday and they offer a service where you pay them for a hot drink for a homeless person or sell vouchers thought that was a great idea. Its definately become worse lately though. Jo x" Which cafe is this? Great idea x | |||
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"London is one of the largest and most prosperous cities in the world. There’s a lot of money to be made playing the part as the beggar. The majority are actually housed and, not living as you deem, remember nothing is ever quite as it’s made to seem. While there are frauds out there. The volume that are bedded up for the night every night and the amount that aren't actually begging suggests you are wrong when you talk about "the majority" The majority is equaling to the mass proportion. Those that are sat in incredibly busy and public places are begging, it matters not if they physically ask, they are aware it’ll be given. Those not in shelters are generally the old asylum fodder. Yet, we had done away with those to give them “care in the community”, which, is quite honestly an ineffective waste of public funds in comparison. These individuals are incapable of looking after themselves and, likely violent and have been struck off of being allowed temporary housing/shelter. If euthanasia were allowed, these are the individuals that it would be humane to use it on. This is said out of empathy, they’re the ones that will likely never be able to ever function again in normal society, nor leave the streets and, shall likely die there. It is more humane to allow them to pass in a warm and sterile surrounding than, from an overdose under a bridge, alone. Wow! Your attitude is unbelievable! You can’t keep making these unintelligible remarks to my posts. If you feel as such, TELL ME WHY, you can’t make a shock remark without the reasonings for it. " I have several times. And yes I can because your attitude speaks for its self. | |||
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"I had to take a deep breath. Didn't want to rant. 20 years ago I was made homeless with 2 young toddlers as my landlord committed major fraud and his property seized. A local vicar and wife took us in. Last year similar when then husband ran off with a woman having secretly not paid the rent. £2500 rent debt, I was an hour from being evicted in the courtroom. So, folk with a nice house, car, decent holidays,imagine it all being pulled from under you. All of it. Be that redundancy, break up illness. Your home. Gone. Yes there are beggars. However there are genuine homeless people who literally do not have a home, a toilet, a bathroom, somewhere to put their feet up, of their own. It could happen to any of you. It happened to them. " Respect and hugs | |||
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"London is one of the largest and most prosperous cities in the world. There’s a lot of money to be made playing the part as the beggar. The majority are actually housed and, not living as you deem, remember nothing is ever quite as it’s made to seem. While there are frauds out there. The volume that are bedded up for the night every night and the amount that aren't actually begging suggests you are wrong when you talk about "the majority" The majority is equaling to the mass proportion. Those that are sat in incredibly busy and public places are begging, it matters not if they physically ask, they are aware it’ll be given. Those not in shelters are generally the old asylum fodder. Yet, we had done away with those to give them “care in the community”, which, is quite honestly an ineffective waste of public funds in comparison. These individuals are incapable of looking after themselves and, likely violent and have been struck off of being allowed temporary housing/shelter. If euthanasia were allowed, these are the individuals that it would be humane to use it on. This is said out of empathy, they’re the ones that will likely never be able to ever function again in normal society, nor leave the streets and, shall likely die there. It is more humane to allow them to pass in a warm and sterile surrounding than, from an overdose under a bridge, alone. Wow! Your attitude is unbelievable! You can’t keep making these unintelligible remarks to my posts. If you feel as such, TELL ME WHY, you can’t make a shock remark without the reasonings for it. I have several times. And yes I can because your attitude speaks for its self. " You’ve literally given no reasonings. You merely pander to “you’re wrong” “attitude stinks” etc etc. You’re misplacing the term “attitude” also, I’m merely giving an educated answer to the original question. You’re the one showing attitude as, it doesn’t pander to your view. You mentioned above that you work with the homeless community, yet then mentioned a lot sleep outside the hostels as they found it “safer”. You do realize those that genuinely do sleep on the streets, do so as, the hostels are a melting pot of all that places fear in ones loins. They are in no way safer. | |||
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"London is one of the largest and most prosperous cities in the world. There’s a lot of money to be made playing the part as the beggar. The majority are actually housed and, not living as you deem, remember nothing is ever quite as it’s made to seem. While there are frauds out there. The volume that are bedded up for the night every night and the amount that aren't actually begging suggests you are wrong when you talk about "the majority" The majority is equaling to the mass proportion. Those that are sat in incredibly busy and public places are begging, it matters not if they physically ask, they are aware it’ll be given. Those not in shelters are generally the old asylum fodder. Yet, we had done away with those to give them “care in the community”, which, is quite honestly an ineffective waste of public funds in comparison. These individuals are incapable of looking after themselves and, likely violent and have been struck off of being allowed temporary housing/shelter. If euthanasia were allowed, these are the individuals that it would be humane to use it on. This is said out of empathy, they’re the ones that will likely never be able to ever function again in normal society, nor leave the streets and, shall likely die there. It is more humane to allow them to pass in a warm and sterile surrounding than, from an overdose under a bridge, alone. Again, miseducated and actually worryingly so. What is? You’re simply denying all of my points as being wrong, without any reasoning or examples of why. In relation to your other post - Your post is just as uneducated, read “majority” also, housed does not mean permanent address, it means sheltered from the elements. I lived In Glasgow for many years, I’m rather aware of homelessness and addiction. " I’m using the FEANTSA definition. You would be too if you really understood homelessness. In my experience (as much as you can post without sources, so can I to counter btw that’s a discussion, I don’t have to convince you but anyway), working in this field in London the majority begging are doing so because they don’t qualify for welfare benefits (no recourse to public funds) and are trying to survive, or sometimes trying to get a fix, or are coerced into begging through gangs (modern slavery) after trafficking - in as many years doing this I’m yet to meet someone who is making big bucks from begging - that is hyped up nonsense. There are currently three open night shelters with waiting lists, this week luckily some councils opened SWEP (severe weather hostels due to heat but they’re closed now). Your assumption that anyone or most rough sleeping would qualify for care in the community is amusing, wryly so, and not true - the majority don’t and are EU no recourse trying to seek work. Also, to suggest anyone who does qualify as section 117 (care in the community) is likely violent and will never be able to function in the world again is ridiculous and demonstrates little understanding of disability or mental health. Yes you may know about your own empirical experiences of addiction and homelessness but to extrapolate that to all situations and to an area you don’t live in, is arrogant and miseducated. To suggest you demonstrate empathy by suggesting euthanasia for people you’ve not even met; well... | |||
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"Was in Cardiff yesterday and it was similar, we also have areas around the city where tent villages have sprung up. It's hard to know what's best to do, I don't like to give money but sometimes buy food or drinks or stuff for dogs. Stopped in a park cafe yesterday and they offer a service where you pay them for a hot drink for a homeless person or sell vouchers thought that was a great idea. Its definately become worse lately though. Jo x Which cafe is this? Great idea x" Absolutely great idea | |||
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"London is one of the largest and most prosperous cities in the world. There’s a lot of money to be made playing the part as the beggar. The majority are actually housed and, not living as you deem, remember nothing is ever quite as it’s made to seem. While there are frauds out there. The volume that are bedded up for the night every night and the amount that aren't actually begging suggests you are wrong when you talk about "the majority" The majority is equaling to the mass proportion. Those that are sat in incredibly busy and public places are begging, it matters not if they physically ask, they are aware it’ll be given. Those not in shelters are generally the old asylum fodder. Yet, we had done away with those to give them “care in the community”, which, is quite honestly an ineffective waste of public funds in comparison. These individuals are incapable of looking after themselves and, likely violent and have been struck off of being allowed temporary housing/shelter. If euthanasia were allowed, these are the individuals that it would be humane to use it on. This is said out of empathy, they’re the ones that will likely never be able to ever function again in normal society, nor leave the streets and, shall likely die there. It is more humane to allow them to pass in a warm and sterile surrounding than, from an overdose under a bridge, alone. Again, miseducated and actually worryingly so. What is? You’re simply denying all of my points as being wrong, without any reasoning or examples of why. In relation to your other post - Your post is just as uneducated, read “majority” also, housed does not mean permanent address, it means sheltered from the elements. I lived In Glasgow for many years, I’m rather aware of homelessness and addiction. I’m using the FEANTSA definition. You would be too if you really understood homelessness. In my experience (as much as you can post without sources, so can I to counter btw that’s a discussion, I don’t have to convince you but anyway), working in this field in London the majority begging are doing so because they don’t qualify for welfare benefits (no recourse to public funds) and are trying to survive, or sometimes trying to get a fix, or are coerced into begging through gangs (modern slavery) after trafficking - in as many years doing this I’m yet to meet someone who is making big bucks from begging - that is hyped up nonsense. There are currently three open night shelters with waiting lists, this week luckily some councils opened SWEP (severe weather hostels due to heat but they’re closed now). Your assumption that anyone or most rough sleeping would qualify for care in the community is amusing, wryly so, and not true - the majority don’t and are EU no recourse trying to seek work. Also, to suggest anyone who does qualify as section 117 (care in the community) is likely violent and will never be able to function in the world again is ridiculous and demonstrates little understanding of disability or mental health. Yes you may know about your own empirical experiences of addiction and homelessness but to extrapolate that to all situations and to an area you don’t live in, is arrogant and miseducated. To suggest you demonstrate empathy by suggesting euthanasia for people you’ve not even met; well..." Touché and respect In a nutshell and the truth I have worked with the homeless here in Ireland and there are zero there by choice and those who are post homeless will tell you some horror stories of their times living rough and how they now appreciate a second chance I’m bowing out now as this is such a sad subject to begin Saturday ...... | |||
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"London is one of the largest and most prosperous cities in the world. There’s a lot of money to be made playing the part as the beggar. The majority are actually housed and, not living as you deem, remember nothing is ever quite as it’s made to seem. This is a major misconception. Yes of course you will always have people who "play the system" but it is a fact that homelessness is on the increase across the country and vilifying vulnerable people as "fake" doesn't help. In Leicester most beggars/homeless do actually have homes but they beg/appear homeless to fund their drug/drink habbit. There was a report saying this this week on local radio. Ahhh..must be true fact then if reported in the media. "Homeless people everywhere but it’s like dick Whittington the streets are paved with gold. I’m sure the big capitals have the biggest percentage if homeless people x it’s a shame though | |||
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"What's worse is most ppl are unfortunately only a wage packet away from it. I'm sorry but for such an important issue that needs addressing I think that your statement is not only trivial but a gross exaggeration. The vast majority are no way close to being homeless and in a way that's part of the problem because people can't understand or empathise with the genuine homeless. If you read reports on the matter you’d realise that it’s not a gross exaggeration. For such an important issue can you cite where you’re getting your data from and what you’ve read? What is a genuine homeless person? Using the FEANTSA ETHOS definition there’s broad diversity in whonis homeless and why. " The real world, not one single person I know or work with is "one wage packet" away from being homeless. | |||
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"What's worse is most ppl are unfortunately only a wage packet away from it. I'm sorry but for such an important issue that needs addressing I think that your statement is not only trivial but a gross exaggeration. The vast majority are no way close to being homeless and in a way that's part of the problem because people can't understand or empathise with the genuine homeless. If you read reports on the matter you’d realise that it’s not a gross exaggeration. For such an important issue can you cite where you’re getting your data from and what you’ve read? What is a genuine homeless person? Using the FEANTSA ETHOS definition there’s broad diversity in whonis homeless and why. The real world, not one single person I know or work with is "one wage packet" away from being homeless." Come to London | |||
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"What's worse is most ppl are unfortunately only a wage packet away from it. I'm sorry but for such an important issue that needs addressing I think that your statement is not only trivial but a gross exaggeration. The vast majority are no way close to being homeless and in a way that's part of the problem because people can't understand or empathise with the genuine homeless. If you read reports on the matter you’d realise that it’s not a gross exaggeration. For such an important issue can you cite where you’re getting your data from and what you’ve read? What is a genuine homeless person? Using the FEANTSA ETHOS definition there’s broad diversity in whonis homeless and why. The real world, not one single person I know or work with is "one wage packet" away from being homeless. Come to London "Also, your comment is about who you know - that’s a good data pool | |||
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"London is one of the largest and most prosperous cities in the world. There’s a lot of money to be made playing the part as the beggar. The majority are actually housed and, not living as you deem, remember nothing is ever quite as it’s made to seem. ...... where is you data coming from? Have you worked closely with housing charities? And I ageee hopefully you’re not at heartlessly arrogant as you seem and just young" Did someone really say that? It’s impossible to buy a house in London unless you are wealthy. So it’s the opposite, normal people can’t live there. It’s like blaming people who work in a bank for the recession | |||
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"What's worse is most ppl are unfortunately only a wage packet away from it. I'm sorry but for such an important issue that needs addressing I think that your statement is not only trivial but a gross exaggeration. The vast majority are no way close to being homeless and in a way that's part of the problem because people can't understand or empathise with the genuine homeless. If you read reports on the matter you’d realise that it’s not a gross exaggeration. For such an important issue can you cite where you’re getting your data from and what you’ve read? What is a genuine homeless person? Using the FEANTSA ETHOS definition there’s broad diversity in whonis homeless and why. The real world, not one single person I know or work with is "one wage packet" away from being homeless. Come to London "You're joking, it's full of Londoners!  | |||
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"London is one of the largest and most prosperous cities in the world. There’s a lot of money to be made playing the part as the beggar. The majority are actually housed and, not living as you deem, remember nothing is ever quite as it’s made to seem. While there are frauds out there. The volume that are bedded up for the night every night and the amount that aren't actually begging suggests you are wrong when you talk about "the majority" The majority is equaling to the mass proportion. Those that are sat in incredibly busy and public places are begging, it matters not if they physically ask, they are aware it’ll be given. Those not in shelters are generally the old asylum fodder. Yet, we had done away with those to give them “care in the community”, which, is quite honestly an ineffective waste of public funds in comparison. These individuals are incapable of looking after themselves and, likely violent and have been struck off of being allowed temporary housing/shelter. If euthanasia were allowed, these are the individuals that it would be humane to use it on. This is said out of empathy, they’re the ones that will likely never be able to ever function again in normal society, nor leave the streets and, shall likely die there. It is more humane to allow them to pass in a warm and sterile surrounding than, from an overdose under a bridge, alone. " In many ways I feel sorry for you. If your opinions are genuine then it shows a startling lack of genuine understanding and empathy. If not then your constant need to make people 'bite' and argue with you is rather sad. Either way, I hope you enjoy your attitude. Tea | |||
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First I’ve ever heard anyone saying that, I’ve got 15k to pay of a house worth over 100k. Homeless people have nowhere to sleep "So if a homeless guy has £1, he is in the green. If i gave you a quid, you'd still be £14999 in the red. | |||
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"London is one of the largest and most prosperous cities in the world. There’s a lot of money to be made playing the part as the beggar. The majority are actually housed and, not living as you deem, remember nothing is ever quite as it’s made to seem. While there are frauds out there. The volume that are bedded up for the night every night and the amount that aren't actually begging suggests you are wrong when you talk about "the majority" The majority is equaling to the mass proportion. Those that are sat in incredibly busy and public places are begging, it matters not if they physically ask, they are aware it’ll be given. Those not in shelters are generally the old asylum fodder. Yet, we had done away with those to give them “care in the community”, which, is quite honestly an ineffective waste of public funds in comparison. These individuals are incapable of looking after themselves and, likely violent and have been struck off of being allowed temporary housing/shelter. If euthanasia were allowed, these are the individuals that it would be humane to use it on. This is said out of empathy, they’re the ones that will likely never be able to ever function again in normal society, nor leave the streets and, shall likely die there. It is more humane to allow them to pass in a warm and sterile surrounding than, from an overdose under a bridge, alone. In many ways I feel sorry for you. If your opinions are genuine then it shows a startling lack of genuine understanding and empathy. If not then your constant need to make people 'bite' and argue with you is rather sad. Either way, I hope you enjoy your attitude. Tea " He is not alone, a lot of people think everything is equal and we all make our own way in life, total disregard for human beings who have had no luck. | |||
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First I’ve ever heard anyone saying that, I’ve got 15k to pay of a house worth over 100k. Homeless people have nowhere to sleep
So if a homeless guy has £1, he is in the green. If i gave you a quid, you'd still be £14999 in the red."I’m 85k in the green I have a home worth 100k are you serious? And it’s in the black | |||
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"Remember folks, if you're paying a mortgage, they've probably got more money than you have.
First I’ve ever heard anyone saying that, I’ve got 15k to pay of a house worth over 100k. Homeless people have nowhere to sleep
So if a homeless guy has £1, he is in the green. If i gave you a quid, you'd still be £14999 in the red.
I’m 85k in the green I have a home worth 100k are you serious? And it’s in the black "Lucky you. Not many are so fortunate. Have you considered helping out the rest of us? Seriously though. Tell your mortgage company that you're not going to pay them the last 15k, and see if they let you stay in "your" house. | |||
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"Remember folks, if you're paying a mortgage, they've probably got more money than you have.
First I’ve ever heard anyone saying that, I’ve got 15k to pay of a house worth over 100k. Homeless people have nowhere to
So if a homeless guy has £1, he is in the green. If i gave you a quid, you'd still be £14999 in the red.
I’m 85k in the green I have a home worth 100k are you serious? And it’s in the black
Lucky you. Not many are so fortunate. Have you considered helping out the rest of us?
Seriously though. Tell your mortgage company that you're not going to pay them the last 15k, and see if they let you stay in "your" house. "Sorry if I sounded cheeky but a home is an investment, so if you pay a mortgage you get something in return. You compared paying a mortgage to bring homeless. Just didn’t get the point but it’s ok, let’s move on buddy | |||
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"London is one of the largest and most prosperous cities in the world. There’s a lot of money to be made playing the part as the beggar. The majority are actually housed and, not living as you deem, remember nothing is ever quite as it’s made to seem. While there are frauds out there. The volume that are bedded up for the night every night and the amount that aren't actually begging suggests you are wrong when you talk about "the majority" The majority is equaling to the mass proportion. Those that are sat in incredibly busy and public places are begging, it matters not if they physically ask, they are aware it’ll be given. Those not in shelters are generally the old asylum fodder. Yet, we had done away with those to give them “care in the community”, which, is quite honestly an ineffective waste of public funds in comparison. These individuals are incapable of looking after themselves and, likely violent and have been struck off of being allowed temporary housing/shelter. If euthanasia were allowed, these are the individuals that it would be humane to use it on. This is said out of empathy, they’re the ones that will likely never be able to ever function again in normal society, nor leave the streets and, shall likely die there. It is more humane to allow them to pass in a warm and sterile surrounding than, from an overdose under a bridge, alone. In many ways I feel sorry for you. If your opinions are genuine then it shows a startling lack of genuine understanding and empathy. If not then your constant need to make people 'bite' and argue with you is rather sad. Either way, I hope you enjoy your attitude. Tea He is not alone, a lot of people think everything is equal and we all make our own way in life, total disregard for human beings who have had no luck. " So being successful in life is luck? | |||
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"London is one of the largest and most prosperous cities in the world. There’s a lot of money to be made playing the part as the beggar. The majority are actually housed and, not living as you deem, remember nothing is ever quite as it’s made to seem. While there are frauds out there. The volume that are bedded up for the night every night and the amount that aren't actually begging suggests you are wrong when you talk about "the majority" The majority is equaling to the mass proportion. Those that are sat in incredibly busy and public places are begging, it matters not if they physically ask, they are aware it’ll be given. Those not in shelters are generally the old asylum fodder. Yet, we had done away with those to give them “care in the community”, which, is quite honestly an ineffective waste of public funds in comparison. These individuals are incapable of looking after themselves and, likely violent and have been struck off of being allowed temporary housing/shelter. If euthanasia were allowed, these are the individuals that it would be humane to use it on. This is said out of empathy, they’re the ones that will likely never be able to ever function again in normal society, nor leave the streets and, shall likely die there. It is more humane to allow them to pass in a warm and sterile surrounding than, from an overdose under a bridge, alone. In many ways I feel sorry for you. If your opinions are genuine then it shows a startling lack of genuine understanding and empathy. If not then your constant need to make people 'bite' and argue with you is rather sad. Either way, I hope you enjoy your attitude. Tea He is not alone, a lot of people think everything is equal and we all make our own way in life, total disregard for human beings who have had no luck. So being successful in life is luck? " Of course not I’m not a communist, I’ve worked had and achieved things but I’ve had a good upbringing and luckily I was born here. Obviously some people ruin there opportunities but I look at the good and willing to help the less fortunate | |||
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"London is one of the largest and most prosperous cities in the world. There’s a lot of money to be made playing the part as the beggar. The majority are actually housed and, not living as you deem, remember nothing is ever quite as it’s made to seem. While there are frauds out there. The volume that are bedded up for the night every night and the amount that aren't actually begging suggests you are wrong when you talk about "the majority" The majority is equaling to the mass proportion. Those that are sat in incredibly busy and public places are begging, it matters not if they physically ask, they are aware it’ll be given. Those not in shelters are generally the old asylum fodder. Yet, we had done away with those to give them “care in the community”, which, is quite honestly an ineffective waste of public funds in comparison. These individuals are incapable of looking after themselves and, likely violent and have been struck off of being allowed temporary housing/shelter. If euthanasia were allowed, these are the individuals that it would be humane to use it on. This is said out of empathy, they’re the ones that will likely never be able to ever function again in normal society, nor leave the streets and, shall likely die there. It is more humane to allow them to pass in a warm and sterile surrounding than, from an overdose under a bridge, alone. In many ways I feel sorry for you. If your opinions are genuine then it shows a startling lack of genuine understanding and empathy. If not then your constant need to make people 'bite' and argue with you is rather sad. Either way, I hope you enjoy your attitude. Tea He is not alone, a lot of people think everything is equal and we all make our own way in life, total disregard for human beings who have had no luck. So being successful in life is luck? Of course not I’m not a communist, I’ve worked had and achieved things but I’ve had a good upbringing and luckily I was born here. Obviously some people ruin there opportunities but I look at the good and willing to help the less fortunate " | |||
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"London is one of the largest and most prosperous cities in the world. There’s a lot of money to be made playing the part as the beggar. The majority are actually housed and, not living as you deem, remember nothing is ever quite as it’s made to seem. While there are frauds out there. The volume that are bedded up for the night every night and the amount that aren't actually begging suggests you are wrong when you talk about "the majority" The majority is equaling to the mass proportion. Those that are sat in incredibly busy and public places are begging, it matters not if they physically ask, they are aware it’ll be given. Those not in shelters are generally the old asylum fodder. Yet, we had done away with those to give them “care in the community”, which, is quite honestly an ineffective waste of public funds in comparison. These individuals are incapable of looking after themselves and, likely violent and have been struck off of being allowed temporary housing/shelter. If euthanasia were allowed, these are the individuals that it would be humane to use it on. This is said out of empathy, they’re the ones that will likely never be able to ever function again in normal society, nor leave the streets and, shall likely die there. It is more humane to allow them to pass in a warm and sterile surrounding than, from an overdose under a bridge, alone. In many ways I feel sorry for you. If your opinions are genuine then it shows a startling lack of genuine understanding and empathy. If not then your constant need to make people 'bite' and argue with you is rather sad. Either way, I hope you enjoy your attitude. Tea He is not alone, a lot of people think everything is equal and we all make our own way in life, total disregard for human beings who have had no luck. So being successful in life is luck? Of course not I’m not a communist, I’ve worked had and achieved things but I’ve had a good upbringing and luckily I was born here. Obviously some people ruin there opportunities but I look at the good and willing to help the less fortunate "That thumb means you agree then lol | |||
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"London is one of the largest and most prosperous cities in the world. There’s a lot of money to be made playing the part as the beggar. The majority are actually housed and, not living as you deem, remember nothing is ever quite as it’s made to seem. While there are frauds out there. The volume that are bedded up for the night every night and the amount that aren't actually begging suggests you are wrong when you talk about "the majority" The majority is equaling to the mass proportion. Those that are sat in incredibly busy and public places are begging, it matters not if they physically ask, they are aware it’ll be given. Those not in shelters are generally the old asylum fodder. Yet, we had done away with those to give them “care in the community”, which, is quite honestly an ineffective waste of public funds in comparison. These individuals are incapable of looking after themselves and, likely violent and have been struck off of being allowed temporary housing/shelter. If euthanasia were allowed, these are the individuals that it would be humane to use it on. This is said out of empathy, they’re the ones that will likely never be able to ever function again in normal society, nor leave the streets and, shall likely die there. It is more humane to allow them to pass in a warm and sterile surrounding than, from an overdose under a bridge, alone. In many ways I feel sorry for you. If your opinions are genuine then it shows a startling lack of genuine understanding and empathy. If not then your constant need to make people 'bite' and argue with you is rather sad. Either way, I hope you enjoy your attitude. Tea He is not alone, a lot of people think everything is equal and we all make our own way in life, total disregard for human beings who have had no luck. So being successful in life is luck? " That’s over simplifying and contorting what was being said. | |||
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"London is one of the largest and most prosperous cities in the world. There’s a lot of money to be made playing the part as the beggar. The majority are actually housed and, not living as you deem, remember nothing is ever quite as it’s made to seem. While there are frauds out there. The volume that are bedded up for the night every night and the amount that aren't actually begging suggests you are wrong when you talk about "the majority" The majority is equaling to the mass proportion. Those that are sat in incredibly busy and public places are begging, it matters not if they physically ask, they are aware it’ll be given. Those not in shelters are generally the old asylum fodder. Yet, we had done away with those to give them “care in the community”, which, is quite honestly an ineffective waste of public funds in comparison. These individuals are incapable of looking after themselves and, likely violent and have been struck off of being allowed temporary housing/shelter. If euthanasia were allowed, these are the individuals that it would be humane to use it on. This is said out of empathy, they’re the ones that will likely never be able to ever function again in normal society, nor leave the streets and, shall likely die there. It is more humane to allow them to pass in a warm and sterile surrounding than, from an overdose under a bridge, alone. In many ways I feel sorry for you. If your opinions are genuine then it shows a startling lack of genuine understanding and empathy. If not then your constant need to make people 'bite' and argue with you is rather sad. Either way, I hope you enjoy your attitude. Tea He is not alone, a lot of people think everything is equal and we all make our own way in life, total disregard for human beings who have had no luck. So being successful in life is luck? That’s over simplifying and contorting what was being said. " I don’t agree. I dislike the word luck. | |||
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"London is one of the largest and most prosperous cities in the world. There’s a lot of money to be made playing the part as the beggar. The majority are actually housed and, not living as you deem, remember nothing is ever quite as it’s made to seem. While there are frauds out there. The volume that are bedded up for the night every night and the amount that aren't actually begging suggests you are wrong when you talk about "the majority" The majority is equaling to the mass proportion. Those that are sat in incredibly busy and public places are begging, it matters not if they physically ask, they are aware it’ll be given. Those not in shelters are generally the old asylum fodder. Yet, we had done away with those to give them “care in the community”, which, is quite honestly an ineffective waste of public funds in comparison. These individuals are incapable of looking after themselves and, likely violent and have been struck off of being allowed temporary housing/shelter. If euthanasia were allowed, these are the individuals that it would be humane to use it on. This is said out of empathy, they’re the ones that will likely never be able to ever function again in normal society, nor leave the streets and, shall likely die there. It is more humane to allow them to pass in a warm and sterile surrounding than, from an overdose under a bridge, alone. In many ways I feel sorry for you. If your opinions are genuine then it shows a startling lack of genuine understanding and empathy. If not then your constant need to make people 'bite' and argue with you is rather sad. Either way, I hope you enjoy your attitude. Tea He is not alone, a lot of people think everything is equal and we all make our own way in life, total disregard for human beings who have had no luck. So being successful in life is luck? That’s over simplifying and contorting what was being said. I don’t agree. I dislike the word luck. " Ah well, privilege can work in context, things outside of your direct control etc. It’s lucky we have a diverse vocabulary. I agree it can be misconstrued using luck, but it’s not wholly wrong either, in context. | |||
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"London is one of the largest and most prosperous cities in the world. There’s a lot of money to be made playing the part as the beggar. The majority are actually housed and, not living as you deem, remember nothing is ever quite as it’s made to seem. While there are frauds out there. The volume that are bedded up for the night every night and the amount that aren't actually begging suggests you are wrong when you talk about "the majority" The majority is equaling to the mass proportion. Those that are sat in incredibly busy and public places are begging, it matters not if they physically ask, they are aware it’ll be given. Those not in shelters are generally the old asylum fodder. Yet, we had done away with those to give them “care in the community”, which, is quite honestly an ineffective waste of public funds in comparison. These individuals are incapable of looking after themselves and, likely violent and have been struck off of being allowed temporary housing/shelter. If euthanasia were allowed, these are the individuals that it would be humane to use it on. This is said out of empathy, they’re the ones that will likely never be able to ever function again in normal society, nor leave the streets and, shall likely die there. It is more humane to allow them to pass in a warm and sterile surrounding than, from an overdose under a bridge, alone. In many ways I feel sorry for you. If your opinions are genuine then it shows a startling lack of genuine understanding and empathy. If not then your constant need to make people 'bite' and argue with you is rather sad. Either way, I hope you enjoy your attitude. Tea He is not alone, a lot of people think everything is equal and we all make our own way in life, total disregard for human beings who have had no luck. So being successful in life is luck? That’s over simplifying and contorting what was being said. I don’t agree. I dislike the word luck. " That’s fine but I’m luckier than a lot of people on this planet because I was given a good start, I’m also luckier because of how I am and how I think so it’s very subjective | |||
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"London is one of the largest and most prosperous cities in the world. There’s a lot of money to be made playing the part as the beggar. The majority are actually housed and, not living as you deem, remember nothing is ever quite as it’s made to seem. While there are frauds out there. The volume that are bedded up for the night every night and the amount that aren't actually begging suggests you are wrong when you talk about "the majority" The majority is equaling to the mass proportion. Those that are sat in incredibly busy and public places are begging, it matters not if they physically ask, they are aware it’ll be given. Those not in shelters are generally the old asylum fodder. Yet, we had done away with those to give them “care in the community”, which, is quite honestly an ineffective waste of public funds in comparison. These individuals are incapable of looking after themselves and, likely violent and have been struck off of being allowed temporary housing/shelter. If euthanasia were allowed, these are the individuals that it would be humane to use it on. This is said out of empathy, they’re the ones that will likely never be able to ever function again in normal society, nor leave the streets and, shall likely die there. It is more humane to allow them to pass in a warm and sterile surrounding than, from an overdose under a bridge, alone. In many ways I feel sorry for you. If your opinions are genuine then it shows a startling lack of genuine understanding and empathy. If not then your constant need to make people 'bite' and argue with you is rather sad. Either way, I hope you enjoy your attitude. Tea He is not alone, a lot of people think everything is equal and we all make our own way in life, total disregard for human beings who have had no luck. So being successful in life is luck? That’s over simplifying and contorting what was being said. I don’t agree. I dislike the word luck. That’s fine but I’m luckier than a lot of people on this planet because I was given a good start, I’m also luckier because of how I am and how I think so it’s very subjective " It is | |||
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"In the context of homelessness it’s rarely down to a lack of effort. To think it is, is to grossly misunderstand the issue. I’d love to get into politics but the problem is people see it as labour / conservative etc, that’s not important we should all try and make the world better. It’s not easy but it would be easier if people looked at the big picture " The issue with politics is the necessity to achieve within an arbitrary timeframe that doesn’t align with the timeframe required to reap sustainable benefit. | |||
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"London is one of the largest and most prosperous cities in the world. There’s a lot of money to be made playing the part as the beggar. The majority are actually housed and, not living as you deem, remember nothing is ever quite as it’s made to seem. While there are frauds out there. The volume that are bedded up for the night every night and the amount that aren't actually begging suggests you are wrong when you talk about "the majority" The majority is equaling to the mass proportion. Those that are sat in incredibly busy and public places are begging, it matters not if they physically ask, they are aware it’ll be given. Those not in shelters are generally the old asylum fodder. Yet, we had done away with those to give them “care in the community”, which, is quite honestly an ineffective waste of public funds in comparison. These individuals are incapable of looking after themselves and, likely violent and have been struck off of being allowed temporary housing/shelter. If euthanasia were allowed, these are the individuals that it would be humane to use it on. This is said out of empathy, they’re the ones that will likely never be able to ever function again in normal society, nor leave the streets and, shall likely die there. It is more humane to allow them to pass in a warm and sterile surrounding than, from an overdose under a bridge, alone. In many ways I feel sorry for you. If your opinions are genuine then it shows a startling lack of genuine understanding and empathy. If not then your constant need to make people 'bite' and argue with you is rather sad. Either way, I hope you enjoy your attitude. Tea He is not alone, a lot of people think everything is equal and we all make our own way in life, total disregard for human beings who have had no luck. So being successful in life is luck? That’s over simplifying and contorting what was being said. I don’t agree. I dislike the word luck. Ah well, privilege can work in context, things outside of your direct control etc. It’s lucky we have a diverse vocabulary. I agree it can be misconstrued using luck, but it’s not wholly wrong either, in context. " We think very similarly, it doesn’t make us right we’re very lucky that we can have an opinion some people don’t | |||
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"In the context of homelessness it’s rarely down to a lack of effort. To think it is, is to grossly misunderstand the issue. I’d love to get into politics but the problem is people see it as labour / conservative etc, that’s not important we should all try and make the world better. It’s not easy but it would be easier if people looked at the big picture The issue with politics is the necessity to achieve within an arbitrary timeframe that doesn’t align with the timeframe required to reap sustainable benefit. " Yes, I agree with this | |||
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"London is one of the largest and most prosperous cities in the world. There’s a lot of money to be made playing the part as the beggar. The majority are actually housed and, not living as you deem, remember nothing is ever quite as it’s made to seem. While there are frauds out there. The volume that are bedded up for the night every night and the amount that aren't actually begging suggests you are wrong when you talk about "the majority" The majority is equaling to the mass proportion. Those that are sat in incredibly busy and public places are begging, it matters not if they physically ask, they are aware it’ll be given. Those not in shelters are generally the old asylum fodder. Yet, we had done away with those to give them “care in the community”, which, is quite honestly an ineffective waste of public funds in comparison. These individuals are incapable of looking after themselves and, likely violent and have been struck off of being allowed temporary housing/shelter. If euthanasia were allowed, these are the individuals that it would be humane to use it on. This is said out of empathy, they’re the ones that will likely never be able to ever function again in normal society, nor leave the streets and, shall likely die there. It is more humane to allow them to pass in a warm and sterile surrounding than, from an overdose under a bridge, alone. In many ways I feel sorry for you. If your opinions are genuine then it shows a startling lack of genuine understanding and empathy. If not then your constant need to make people 'bite' and argue with you is rather sad. Either way, I hope you enjoy your attitude. Tea He is not alone, a lot of people think everything is equal and we all make our own way in life, total disregard for human beings who have had no luck. So being successful in life is luck? That’s over simplifying and contorting what was being said. I don’t agree. I dislike the word luck. Ah well, privilege can work in context, things outside of your direct control etc. It’s lucky we have a diverse vocabulary. I agree it can be misconstrued using luck, but it’s not wholly wrong either, in context. We think very similarly, it doesn’t make us right we’re very lucky that we can have an opinion some people don’t " Everyone can have an opinion, not everyone can afford one though. I’m always right  | |||
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"In the context of homelessness it’s rarely down to a lack of effort. To think it is, is to grossly misunderstand the issue." I think (not to be rude or dismissive of people) that some people 'choose' to believe certain things about the random nature of life as its more comforting to think certain things. If everyone thought that life is simply a random set of events over which we have (largely) no control then either nothing would get done or there would be riots, either way, society would crumble. Sometimes it's easier to believe the convenient and beautiful lie than the hard truth. Tea | |||
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"London is one of the largest and most prosperous cities in the world. There’s a lot of money to be made playing the part as the beggar. The majority are actually housed and, not living as you deem, remember nothing is ever quite as it’s made to seem. While there are frauds out there. The volume that are bedded up for the night every night and the amount that aren't actually begging suggests you are wrong when you talk about "the majority" The majority is equaling to the mass proportion. Those that are sat in incredibly busy and public places are begging, it matters not if they physically ask, they are aware it’ll be given. Those not in shelters are generally the old asylum fodder. Yet, we had done away with those to give them “care in the community”, which, is quite honestly an ineffective waste of public funds in comparison. These individuals are incapable of looking after themselves and, likely violent and have been struck off of being allowed temporary housing/shelter. If euthanasia were allowed, these are the individuals that it would be humane to use it on. This is said out of empathy, they’re the ones that will likely never be able to ever function again in normal society, nor leave the streets and, shall likely die there. It is more humane to allow them to pass in a warm and sterile surrounding than, from an overdose under a bridge, alone. In many ways I feel sorry for you. If your opinions are genuine then it shows a startling lack of genuine understanding and empathy. If not then your constant need to make people 'bite' and argue with you is rather sad. Either way, I hope you enjoy your attitude. Tea He is not alone, a lot of people think everything is equal and we all make our own way in life, total disregard for human beings who have had no luck. So being successful in life is luck? That’s over simplifying and contorting what was being said. I don’t agree. I dislike the word luck. Ah well, privilege can work in context, things outside of your direct control etc. It’s lucky we have a diverse vocabulary. I agree it can be misconstrued using luck, but it’s not wholly wrong either, in context. We think very similarly, it doesn’t make us right we’re very lucky that we can have an opinion some people don’t Everyone can have an opinion, not everyone can afford one though. I’m always right "Lol well there would be no point in saying something if you didn’t think it was right | |||
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"Some, not all, are professional beggars and they have homes to go to after a days graft. Many have been filmed getting out of decent cars and then parking their arses in the street for the day and then driving off again. It’s on the increase everywhere. The advice is, give your money to a homeless charity rather than directly to the guy in the street. " | |||
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"London is one of the largest and most prosperous cities in the world. There’s a lot of money to be made playing the part as the beggar. The majority are actually housed and, not living as you deem, remember nothing is ever quite as it’s made to seem. While there are frauds out there. The volume that are bedded up for the night every night and the amount that aren't actually begging suggests you are wrong when you talk about "the majority" The majority is equaling to the mass proportion. Those that are sat in incredibly busy and public places are begging, it matters not if they physically ask, they are aware it’ll be given. Those not in shelters are generally the old asylum fodder. Yet, we had done away with those to give them “care in the community”, which, is quite honestly an ineffective waste of public funds in comparison. These individuals are incapable of looking after themselves and, likely violent and have been struck off of being allowed temporary housing/shelter. If euthanasia were allowed, these are the individuals that it would be humane to use it on. This is said out of empathy, they’re the ones that will likely never be able to ever function again in normal society, nor leave the streets and, shall likely die there. It is more humane to allow them to pass in a warm and sterile surrounding than, from an overdose under a bridge, alone. In many ways I feel sorry for you. If your opinions are genuine then it shows a startling lack of genuine understanding and empathy. If not then your constant need to make people 'bite' and argue with you is rather sad. Either way, I hope you enjoy your attitude. Tea He is not alone, a lot of people think everything is equal and we all make our own way in life, total disregard for human beings who have had no luck. So being successful in life is luck? That’s over simplifying and contorting what was being said. I don’t agree. I dislike the word luck. Ah well, privilege can work in context, things outside of your direct control etc. It’s lucky we have a diverse vocabulary. I agree it can be misconstrued using luck, but it’s not wholly wrong either, in context. We think very similarly, it doesn’t make us right we’re very lucky that we can have an opinion some people don’t Everyone can have an opinion, not everyone can afford one though. I’m always right
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"London is one of the largest and most prosperous cities in the world. There’s a lot of money to be made playing the part as the beggar. The majority are actually housed and, not living as you deem, remember nothing is ever quite as it’s made to seem. While there are frauds out there. The volume that are bedded up for the night every night and the amount that aren't actually begging suggests you are wrong when you talk about "the majority" The majority is equaling to the mass proportion. Those that are sat in incredibly busy and public places are begging, it matters not if they physically ask, they are aware it’ll be given. Those not in shelters are generally the old asylum fodder. Yet, we had done away with those to give them “care in the community”, which, is quite honestly an ineffective waste of public funds in comparison. These individuals are incapable of looking after themselves and, likely violent and have been struck off of being allowed temporary housing/shelter. If euthanasia were allowed, these are the individuals that it would be humane to use it on. This is said out of empathy, they’re the ones that will likely never be able to ever function again in normal society, nor leave the streets and, shall likely die there. It is more humane to allow them to pass in a warm and sterile surrounding than, from an overdose under a bridge, alone. In many ways I feel sorry for you. If your opinions are genuine then it shows a startling lack of genuine understanding and empathy. If not then your constant need to make people 'bite' and argue with you is rather sad. Either way, I hope you enjoy your attitude. Tea He is not alone, a lot of people think everything is equal and we all make our own way in life, total disregard for human beings who have had no luck. So being successful in life is luck? That’s over simplifying and contorting what was being said. I don’t agree. I dislike the word luck. Ah well, privilege can work in context, things outside of your direct control etc. It’s lucky we have a diverse vocabulary. I agree it can be misconstrued using luck, but it’s not wholly wrong either, in context. We think very similarly, it doesn’t make us right we’re very lucky that we can have an opinion some people don’t Everyone can have an opinion, not everyone can afford one though. I’m always right
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"In the context of homelessness it’s rarely down to a lack of effort. To think it is, is to grossly misunderstand the issue. I think (not to be rude or dismissive of people) that some people 'choose' to believe certain things about the random nature of life as its more comforting to think certain things. If everyone thought that life is simply a random set of events over which we have (largely) no control then either nothing would get done or there would be riots, either way, society would crumble. Sometimes it's easier to believe the convenient and beautiful lie than the hard truth. Tea" That’s absolutely true. Frameworks did some research about phrasing of the issue and comparing the call to action when discussed as a futile chance happening versus a systematic and policy problem and it was stark. It perpetuates the problem to assume there’s nothing that can be done. Even best practice in treating alcoholism is now focused on intervention rather than letting someone hit rock bottom on their own* - homelessness can be ended. (*The Blue Light project is Alcohol Concern's national initiative to develop alternative approaches and care pathways for treatment resistant drinkers who place a burden on public services. The project aims to challenge the belief that nothing can be done with resistant drinkers who 'do not want to change'.) | |||
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"In the context of homelessness it’s rarely down to a lack of effort. To think it is, is to grossly misunderstand the issue. I think (not to be rude or dismissive of people) that some people 'choose' to believe certain things about the random nature of life as its more comforting to think certain things. If everyone thought that life is simply a random set of events over which we have (largely) no control then either nothing would get done or there would be riots, either way, society would crumble. Sometimes it's easier to believe the convenient and beautiful lie than the hard truth. Tea" I’m not saying it’s just random events or just luck. I’m sharp and clever always have been but not everyone is born like that. So why would I not try and do what I can to make the most of who I am and help people who don’t have the nature or spark I do. Some people are clever but disregard everyone else why? No one is better than anyone else | |||
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"In the context of homelessness it’s rarely down to a lack of effort. To think it is, is to grossly misunderstand the issue. I think (not to be rude or dismissive of people) that some people 'choose' to believe certain things about the random nature of life as its more comforting to think certain things. If everyone thought that life is simply a random set of events over which we have (largely) no control then either nothing would get done or there would be riots, either way, society would crumble. Sometimes it's easier to believe the convenient and beautiful lie than the hard truth. Tea I’m not saying it’s just random events or just luck. I’m sharp and clever always have been but not everyone is born like that. So why would I not try and do what I can to make the most of who I am and help people who don’t have the nature or spark I do. Some people are clever but disregard everyone else why? No one is better than anyone else " You missed that this wasn’t aimed at you if you do do things! | |||
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"In the context of homelessness it’s rarely down to a lack of effort. To think it is, is to grossly misunderstand the issue. I think (not to be rude or dismissive of people) that some people 'choose' to believe certain things about the random nature of life as its more comforting to think certain things. If everyone thought that life is simply a random set of events over which we have (largely) no control then either nothing would get done or there would be riots, either way, society would crumble. Sometimes it's easier to believe the convenient and beautiful lie than the hard truth. Tea I’m not saying it’s just random events or just luck. I’m sharp and clever always have been but not everyone is born like that. So why would I not try and do what I can to make the most of who I am and help people who don’t have the nature or spark I do. Some people are clever but disregard everyone else why? No one is better than anyone else You missed that this wasn’t aimed at you if you do do things! "I’m just enjoying the wee chat x | |||
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"What's worse is most ppl are unfortunately only a wage packet away from it. " This!! | |||
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"What's worse is most ppl are unfortunately only a wage packet away from it. I'm sorry but for such an important issue that needs addressing I think that your statement is not only trivial but a gross exaggeration. The vast majority are no way close to being homeless and in a way that's part of the problem because people can't understand or empathise with the genuine homeless. If you read reports on the matter you’d realise that it’s not a gross exaggeration. For such an important issue can you cite where you’re getting your data from and what you’ve read? What is a genuine homeless person? Using the FEANTSA ETHOS definition there’s broad diversity in whonis homeless and why. The real world, not one single person I know or work with is "one wage packet" away from being homeless." Maybe that says more about the narrow demographic of people you know rather than being a reflection of the real world | |||
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"If fuckwits in this country stopped voting fucking tory, a whole lot more would be done about it." It’s not about who people vote for it’s about having someone who can make a difference. Jeremy Corbin it’s ridiculous. David millibars should be running the country a decent guy with charisma. He’s very well thought of in the world | |||
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"If fuckwits in this country stopped voting fucking tory, a whole lot more would be done about it." Intelligent input. I like it
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"If fuckwits in this country stopped voting fucking tory, a whole lot more would be done about it. Intelligent input. I like it
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"If fuckwits in this country stopped voting fucking tory, a whole lot more would be done about it. Intelligent input. I like it
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Nora, let it go "Ok. I’ll just sit here in amongst my fuckwittery | |||
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"If fuckwits in this country stopped voting fucking tory, a whole lot more would be done about it. Intelligent input. I like it
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Nora, let it go
Ok. I’ll just sit here in amongst my fuckwittery " you make me laugh | |||
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"If fuckwits in this country stopped voting fucking tory, a whole lot more would be done about it. Intelligent input. I like it
Maybe add “in my opinion” on the end of that one. "In my opinion. Yes it was a very short sentence, but nobody in the history of Internetting ever changed another persons mind on political stance. I have a much deeper view on numerous elements of the political landscape but airing them on a forum on a sex site isn't going to prove anything or change anything. I'm not here to argue. This Government has a lot to answer for. Brexit is a stitch-up, austerity it a lie, empathy is a four letter word. | |||
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"If fuckwits in this country stopped voting fucking tory, a whole lot more would be done about it. Intelligent input. I like it
Maybe add “in my opinion” on the end of that one.
In my opinion.
Yes it was a very short sentence, but nobody in the history of Internetting ever changed another persons mind on political stance. I have a much deeper view on numerous elements of the political landscape but airing them on a forum on a sex site isn't going to prove anything or change anything.
I'm not here to argue. This Government has a lot to answer for. Brexit is a stitch-up, austerity it a lie, empathy is a four letter word."I hate arguing and love when people have opinions, the world would be a boring place if every one agreed. | |||
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"If fuckwits in this country stopped voting fucking tory, a whole lot more would be done about it. Intelligent input. I like it
Maybe add “in my opinion” on the end of that one.
In my opinion.
Yes it was a very short sentence, but nobody in the history of Internetting ever changed another persons mind on political stance. I have a much deeper view on numerous elements of the political landscape but airing them on a forum on a sex site isn't going to prove anything or change anything.
I'm not here to argue. This Government has a lot to answer for. Brexit is a stitch-up, austerity it a lie, empathy is a four letter word."Absolutely. Which is why I no longer air my views here in great detail. Brexit is a stitch up, I agree. I’m a remainer. I’m never here to argue. We all have our views. Although if you’re not here to argue perhaps it may be an idea to refrain from calling the people who don’t share your views “fuckwits”. Just a thought | |||
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"If fuckwits in this country stopped voting fucking tory, a whole lot more would be done about it. Intelligent input. I like it
Maybe add “in my opinion” on the end of that one.
In my opinion.
Yes it was a very short sentence, but nobody in the history of Internetting ever changed another persons mind on political stance. I have a much deeper view on numerous elements of the political landscape but airing them on a forum on a sex site isn't going to prove anything or change anything.
I'm not here to argue. This Government has a lot to answer for. Brexit is a stitch-up, austerity it a lie, empathy is a four letter word.
Absolutely. Which is why I no longer air my views here in great detail. Brexit is a stitch up, I agree. I’m a remainer. I’m never here to argue. We all have our views. Although if you’re not here to argue perhaps it may be an idea to refrain from calling the people who don’t share your views “fuckwits”. Just a thought "You're right. I couldn't help it, it just slipped out. I can't fathom why anyone with any care for their fellow human beings would vote tory. Maybe that's a gentler version of the "fuckwit" post. x | |||
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"If fuckwits in this country stopped voting fucking tory, a whole lot more would be done about it. Intelligent input. I like it
Maybe add “in my opinion” on the end of that one.
In my opinion.
Yes it was a very short sentence, but nobody in the history of Internetting ever changed another persons mind on political stance. I have a much deeper view on numerous elements of the political landscape but airing them on a forum on a sex site isn't going to prove anything or change anything.
I'm not here to argue. This Government has a lot to answer for. Brexit is a stitch-up, austerity it a lie, empathy is a four letter word.
Absolutely. Which is why I no longer air my views here in great detail. Brexit is a stitch up, I agree. I’m a remainer. I’m never here to argue. We all have our views. Although if you’re not here to argue perhaps it may be an idea to refrain from calling the people who don’t share your views “fuckwits”. Just a thought "You ruined a good point at the end Nora what am I going to do with you haha | |||
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"If fuckwits in this country stopped voting fucking tory, a whole lot more would be done about it. Intelligent input. I like it
Maybe add “in my opinion” on the end of that one.
In my opinion.
Yes it was a very short sentence, but nobody in the history of Internetting ever changed another persons mind on political stance. I have a much deeper view on numerous elements of the political landscape but airing them on a forum on a sex site isn't going to prove anything or change anything.
I'm not here to argue. This Government has a lot to answer for. Brexit is a stitch-up, austerity it a lie, empathy is a four letter word.
Absolutely. Which is why I no longer air my views here in great detail. Brexit is a stitch up, I agree. I’m a remainer. I’m never here to argue. We all have our views. Although if you’re not here to argue perhaps it may be an idea to refrain from calling the people who don’t share your views “fuckwits”. Just a thought
You're right. I couldn't help it, it just slipped out.
I can't fathom why anyone with any care for their fellow human beings would vote tory. Maybe that's a gentler version of the "fuckwit" post. x"Yes that tends to be a common thing with people who lean to the left unfortunately. They often can’t fathom or understand views and opinions of people who don’t share theirs. I, however, can understand and respect the views of others whether I agree with them or not. | |||
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"If fuckwits in this country stopped voting fucking tory, a whole lot more would be done about it. Intelligent input. I like it
Maybe add “in my opinion” on the end of that one.
In my opinion.
Yes it was a very short sentence, but nobody in the history of Internetting ever changed another persons mind on political stance. I have a much deeper view on numerous elements of the political landscape but airing them on a forum on a sex site isn't going to prove anything or change anything.
I'm not here to argue. This Government has a lot to answer for. Brexit is a stitch-up, austerity it a lie, empathy is a four letter word.
Absolutely. Which is why I no longer air my views here in great detail. Brexit is a stitch up, I agree. I’m a remainer. I’m never here to argue. We all have our views. Although if you’re not here to argue perhaps it may be an idea to refrain from calling the people who don’t share your views “fuckwits”. Just a thought
You're right. I couldn't help it, it just slipped out.
I can't fathom why anyone with any care for their fellow human beings would vote tory. Maybe that's a gentler version of the "fuckwit" post. x"Either can I but who am I to say that I’m right and they are wrong, that’s the problem in the world because people believe passionately about something they shout others views down, they obviously believe in what they say x | |||
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"London is one of the largest and most prosperous cities in the world. There’s a lot of money to be made playing the part as the beggar. The majority are actually housed and, not living as you deem, remember nothing is ever quite as it’s made to seem. " . that is a good point, I see sleeping homeless at 3 to 5 am not the same people sitting in the city centres asking for Change later | |||
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"If fuckwits in this country stopped voting fucking tory, a whole lot more would be done about it. Intelligent input. I like it
Maybe add “in my opinion” on the end of that one.
In my opinion.
Yes it was a very short sentence, but nobody in the history of Internetting ever changed another persons mind on political stance. I have a much deeper view on numerous elements of the political landscape but airing them on a forum on a sex site isn't going to prove anything or change anything.
I'm not here to argue. This Government has a lot to answer for. Brexit is a stitch-up, austerity it a lie, empathy is a four letter word.
Absolutely. Which is why I no longer air my views here in great detail. Brexit is a stitch up, I agree. I’m a remainer. I’m never here to argue. We all have our views. Although if you’re not here to argue perhaps it may be an idea to refrain from calling the people who don’t share your views “fuckwits”. Just a thought
You're right. I couldn't help it, it just slipped out.
I can't fathom why anyone with any care for their fellow human beings would vote tory. Maybe that's a gentler version of the "fuckwit" post. x
Yes that tends to be a common thing with people who lean to the left unfortunately. They often can’t fathom or understand views and opinions of people who don’t share theirs. I, however, can understand and respect the views of others whether I agree with them or not. "It’s a common trait in humanity I’m left of you but im not judging anyone | |||
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"If fuckwits in this country stopped voting fucking tory, a whole lot more would be done about it. Intelligent input. I like it
Maybe add “in my opinion” on the end of that one.
In my opinion.
Yes it was a very short sentence, but nobody in the history of Internetting ever changed another persons mind on political stance. I have a much deeper view on numerous elements of the political landscape but airing them on a forum on a sex site isn't going to prove anything or change anything.
I'm not here to argue. This Government has a lot to answer for. Brexit is a stitch-up, austerity it a lie, empathy is a four letter word.
Absolutely. Which is why I no longer air my views here in great detail. Brexit is a stitch up, I agree. I’m a remainer. I’m never here to argue. We all have our views. Although if you’re not here to argue perhaps it may be an idea to refrain from calling the people who don’t share your views “fuckwits”. Just a thought
You're right. I couldn't help it, it just slipped out.
I can't fathom why anyone with any care for their fellow human beings would vote tory. Maybe that's a gentler version of the "fuckwit" post. x
Yes that tends to be a common thing with people who lean to the left unfortunately. They often can’t fathom or understand views and opinions of people who don’t share theirs. I, however, can understand and respect the views of others whether I agree with them or not.
It’s a common trait in humanity I’m left of you but im not judging anyone "Me neither and I have never shouted anyone down or got personal. When people do that I’m out. I’m not a child in a playground. | |||
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"Voting tory always seems like a very selfish vote in my view. You're right though, us lefties will never understand right leaning views." I don’t see myself as a leftie, I don’t look at the world like that. I see it like this, if I can help people I will. I don’t look at the people who take the piss out of society as taking my money because that’s a negative way of living. | |||
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"If fuckwits in this country stopped voting fucking tory, a whole lot more would be done about it. Intelligent input. I like it
Maybe add “in my opinion” on the end of that one.
In my opinion.
Yes it was a very short sentence, but nobody in the history of Internetting ever changed another persons mind on political stance. I have a much deeper view on numerous elements of the political landscape but airing them on a forum on a sex site isn't going to prove anything or change anything.
I'm not here to argue. This Government has a lot to answer for. Brexit is a stitch-up, austerity it a lie, empathy is a four letter word.
Absolutely. Which is why I no longer air my views here in great detail. Brexit is a stitch up, I agree. I’m a remainer. I’m never here to argue. We all have our views. Although if you’re not here to argue perhaps it may be an idea to refrain from calling the people who don’t share your views “fuckwits”. Just a thought
You're right. I couldn't help it, it just slipped out.
I can't fathom why anyone with any care for their fellow human beings would vote tory. Maybe that's a gentler version of the "fuckwit" post. x
Yes that tends to be a common thing with people who lean to the left unfortunately. They often can’t fathom or understand views and opinions of people who don’t share theirs. I, however, can understand and respect the views of others whether I agree with them or not. "In fairness it's a trait found on both sides of the argument. I know I'm guilty of if. But we tend not to see it in those we agree with | |||
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"Voting tory always seems like a very selfish vote in my view. You're right though, us lefties will never understand right leaning views." Exactly which is why most of these debates are pointless in my opinion. On that note I shall leave you to it as I don’t want to get any deeper. I’m in a happy mood | |||
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"The problem is it pains while it pains us to see it, we want other people to solve it." Lol exactly it’s so complex and complicated because you can’t please everyone. Recently people feel afraid so they want a father figure to keep them safe from terrorists but bravado doesn’t solve anything. There is no right answer, so fuck being a politician lol | |||
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