FabSwingers.com forum: Veganism

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

So I’ve just had a very unpleasant conversation with a guy I know who is vegan (not on or from

Fab). He basically was talking about how he’s loving this weather because he is hoping that the silage that the farmers are producing all fails. When I questioned him on this he said that these farmers deserved to fall on hard times and possibly go bankrupt (that is the short and pretty nice version of what he actually said). He grew up in a city, has no real idea about how farming works and has never seen the effects that a bad harvest/failed silage can have on farmers and their families.

I understand being passionate about animal welfare, and having compassion but what about compassion for your fellow man?

I respect anyone that chooses to follow a vegan lifestyle, but are these kind of attitudes towards farmers fair?

Oh and just to clarify I’m a country girl through and through and know exactly what some farms (especially the big industrial ones) do to their animals and it is awful, but I also know so many farmers who take incredibly good care of their animals and ensure their welfare.

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By *hezuMan
over a year ago

London

Where does he think he fruit and veg comes from lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Vegans can be belligerent, non-comprising people at times, ask my sister!

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By *hatYorkLadMan
over a year ago

York

I grew up on a farm and was a farmer myself for a few years, people outside of it have absolutely no idea! As you say most farmers take very good care of their animals, but there are bad farms and bad stockpeople too.

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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago

Travelling

Not all but a lot vegans are band wagon riders that are single minded in their persuit to stop animal cruelty. They don't think of consequences or the effect that a sudden stop to livestock farming will cause.

There are a lot of level headed vegans that are logical in their views and the conflict it has with everything else.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I grew up on a farm and was a farmer myself for a few years, people outside of it have absolutely no idea! As you say most farmers take very good care of their animals, but there are bad farms and bad stockpeople too."

It’s often the smaller, less profitable farms that take really good care of their animals, and it’s those farms that will fall on hard times if a season doesn’t go well. I just found his comments completely ignorant and misinformed and it’s riled me up.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Not all but a lot vegans are band wagon riders that are single minded in their persuit to stop animal cruelty. They don't think of consequences or the effect that a sudden stop to livestock farming will cause.

There are a lot of level headed vegans that are logical in their views and the conflict it has with everything else. "

Completely agree, I’ve met a lot of vegans who understand things aren’t going to change overnight and accept that, they just concentrate on the changes they can make for themselves and I think that’s the best that anyone can do, that’s what actually causes the ripple effect with these things.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wonder what he may say if all the growing crops failed....

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By *nderIwonder.Man
over a year ago

2nd City

vegans are terrorists in a way. .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"vegans are terrorists in a way. . "

What utter rubbish. Most are normal, everyday people. But like in many other groups, you have a minority of militants that are ruining it for everyone.

No , I’m not vegan or vegetarian.

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By *nderIwonder.Man
over a year ago

2nd City

"vegans are terrorists in a way. .

What utter rubbish. Most are normal, everyday people. But like in many other groups, you have a minority of militants that are ruining it for everyone.

No , I’m not vegan or vegetarian."

terrorists are "normal" "everyday" people but just very radical.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"vegans are terrorists in a way. .

What utter rubbish. Most are normal, everyday people. But like in many other groups, you have a minority of militants that are ruining it for everyone.

No , I’m not vegan or vegetarian.

terrorists are "normal" "everyday" people but just very radical. "

No, terrorists are not normal. They may have been normal members of society once upon a time but now they have been brainwashed and are ideologically flawed. They have been radicalised and have lost all rights to be allowed to call themselves normal folk.

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By *nderIwonder.Man
over a year ago

2nd City

"vegans are terrorists in a way. .

What utter rubbish. Most are normal, everyday people. But like in many other groups, you have a minority of militants that are ruining it for everyone.

No , I’m not vegan or vegetarian.

terrorists are "normal" "everyday" people but just very radical.

vegans are brainwashed and jumping on a band wagon a lot like terrorism.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"vegans are terrorists in a way. .

What utter rubbish. Most are normal, everyday people. But like in many other groups, you have a minority of militants that are ruining it for everyone.

No , I’m not vegan or vegetarian.

terrorists are "normal" "everyday" people but just very radical.

vegans are brainwashed and jumping on a band wagon a lot like terrorism. "

Yep. Exactly the same.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Look up everyone, vegans, vegetarians, meat eaters, maneaters. Look! A flying pig.

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By *nderIwonder.Man
over a year ago

2nd City

"vegans are terrorists in a way. .

What utter rubbish. Most are normal, everyday people. But like in many other groups, you have a minority of militants that are ruining it for everyone.

No , I’m not vegan or vegetarian.

terrorists are "normal" "everyday" people but just very radical.

vegans are brainwashed and jumping on a band wagon a lot like terrorism.

Yep. Exactly the same."

so terrorism was normal until it got radicalised just like vegetarianism.

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By *ohndunboyneMan
over a year ago

Dunboyne & Dublin

One person's terrorist is another person's freedom fighter.

Just saying. Carnivore here.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just tell him that meat eaters food shits on his food and if we are not supposed to eat farm animals , why are they made of meat ? Lol

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By *xMFM3sumsxxWoman
over a year ago

SouthWest Lancashire

Vegans don't eat animals. Those who don't eat it because they think animals have a right not to be eaten won't care so much that their welfare is looked after before they are slaughtered because the end product is what they are against.

And yes some people are vindictive but if it helps them cope with a distressing reality that goes against what they believe then i don't blame them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Humans have canines to eat meat which only means humans are supposed to eat meat. Horses on the other hand have straight teeth that’s why they only eat grass. I believe humans should eat meat but also balance it out with other fruit and veg. I HATE VEGANS THERE ALL RETARDED!!

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By *erriAnneTV/TS
over a year ago

The shire

Vegans are hypocritical they pretend to care about animals and their habitat but they drink water which is a fishes house.... Utter wankers!!!!

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By *xMFM3sumsxxWoman
over a year ago

SouthWest Lancashire

"Humans have canines to eat meat which only means humans are supposed to eat meat. Horses on the other hand have straight teeth that’s why they only eat grass. I believe humans should eat meat but also balance it out with other fruit and veg. I HATE VEGANS THERE ALL RETARDED!!"

I think you meant *they're*..

Hippos have canines and they don't eat meat. Try again.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Vegans attitude reminds me of the ex smokers, that call and openly call those that smoke.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Whatever views some have, you get those that wish ill fate on others. Rightwing, lefties, vegans, urban elitists.... They have no humanity.

Give me a decent, social family orientated person any day. If they are vegan ok, as long as they don't preach bitter hatred.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I think you meant *they're*..

Hippos have canines and they don't eat meat. Try again.

I don’t think there’s any need to throw low blows like correcting people’s spelling.

Also, hippos are omnivores.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I definitely don’t hate vegans, and it’s definitely out of order to call them all retarded. But appreciate the point that you made.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

THEY'RE

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Veganisim is a 1st world luxury in my humble x

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

THEY'RE "

*sigh*

Any other contribution than that would be great.

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

Vegans can’t be reasoned with from my experience. One epic thread on here once had a lady lecturing us all for being cruel and nasty if you eat meat. Then when it was pointed out one of her pics was her lying posing on a leather bed was the vegan equivalent of the dentist posing on poor Cecil the lion she disappeared sharpish.

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By *uciyassMan
over a year ago

sheffield

And

Vegans don’t have sex. They talk about it but can’t use the D in dick or C in cunt

Fucking cunts take all the fun out of sexi times

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've found that a lot of vegans are so, so they can one-up people. Their arguments are so easy to pick holes in. Yes, some industrialised farms and slaughterhouses mistreat animals, but that's always going to be a case, because human nature varies so much from person to person. Militant vegans take the worst cases and make it seem like they are the norm.

On top of that, they make claims about global warming. Yes, animal farming does contribute, but we need to tackle industrialization and vehicle emissions first.

Basically, they are all for stopping the meat trade to feed their egos, while up to two thousand animal species go extinct every year, due to climate change and deforestation

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By *opsy RogersWoman
over a year ago

London

"Veganisim is a 1st world luxury in my humble x"

Is t it just

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"vegans are terrorists in a way. .

What utter rubbish. Most are normal, everyday people. But like in many other groups, you have a minority of militants that are ruining it for everyone.

No , I’m not vegan or vegetarian.

terrorists are "normal" "everyday" people but just very radical.

vegans are brainwashed and jumping on a band wagon a lot like terrorism. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"And

Vegans don’t have sex. They talk about it but can’t use the D in dick or C in cunt

Fucking cunts take all the fun out of sexi times"

I can assure you they do, my best friend is one and a nymph and the guy I have sexy time with is a vegan too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yeah, ok then...

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I've found that a lot of vegans are so, so they can one-up people. Their arguments are so easy to pick holes in. Yes, some industrialised farms and slaughterhouses mistreat animals, but that's always going to be a case, because human nature varies so much from person to person. Militant vegans take the worst cases and make it seem like they are the norm.

On top of that, they make claims about global warming. Yes, animal farming does contribute, but we need to tackle industrialization and vehicle emissions first.

Basically, they are all for stopping the meat trade to feed their egos, while up to two thousand animal species go extinct every year, due to climate change and deforestation"

I don’t have any issues with their arguments for being vegan, a lot of the reasons are valid and I respect them for it. However, it was the attitude that farmers (and it was used in a very generalised term) deserve to lose their livelihoods and ‘live miserable existences’ (his exact words). I found this stance completely unacceptable.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"vegans are terrorists in a way. . "

Yes, and no. There are a small selection of animal rights activists that resort to terrorist-like activities. There was that case of where some activists freed three hundred mink from a fur farm, which then went on to decimate the surrounding wildlife

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

But tarring all animal rights activists with the same brush is a bit extreme

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Vegans can’t be reasoned with from my experience. One epic thread on here once had a lady lecturing us all for being cruel and nasty if you eat meat. Then when it was pointed out one of her pics was her lying posing on a leather bed was the vegan equivalent of the dentist posing on poor Cecil the lion she disappeared sharpish.

There does seem to be a lot of hypocrisy, this particular guy takes no notice of the hair care/body/face washes he uses, and when I pointed out that he was buying and using brands that tested on animals he retaliated that he’s still got some learning to do and can’t be expected to change over night...

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By *andKBCouple
over a year ago

Plymouth

Before the hate starts I'm a vegan and proud of it (K).

Going vegan kept me off some very powerful medications with terrible side effects! Through going vegan for health reasons I've become more aware of animals suffering and I really dislike the dairy and egg industry!

I however do not agree with what he said. As much as I want farmers to stop farming animals we still need food. I want them to stop farming animals which I often here they complain about costs and lack of profit and start farming vegetables instead!! They don't have to lose their business or livilhood just change with the times!

Like many restaurants are now to keep up with the growing number of vegans

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By *andKBCouple
over a year ago

Plymouth

"vegans are terrorists in a way. .

What utter rubbish. Most are normal, everyday people. But like in many other groups, you have a minority of militants that are ruining it for everyone.

No , I’m not vegan or vegetarian.

terrorists are "normal" "everyday" people but just very radical.

vegans are brainwashed and jumping on a band wagon a lot like terrorism. "

I'm not brainwashed. Not at all. I've done research, I've educated myself, I've looked at facts.

I wonder how many people here who sit and say vegans are brainwashed complain about plastic use and the damage to our oceans... The biggest way plastic use and damage to our oceans is caused... FISHING!! With plastic nets, seas being depleted to a rate they can't sustain natural regrowth.

But you sit there with your fish and chips moaning about plastic blaming the radical vegans by all means

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By *andKBCouple
over a year ago

Plymouth

See all my body products, shampoo, make up, hair products... Vegan! Even before I was vegan I used to buy cruelty free wherever possible

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Before the hate starts I'm a vegan and proud of it (K).

Like many restaurants are now to keep up with the growing number of vegans "

Unfortunately there is no such thing as completely ethical farming, even with vegetable farms, the amount of wildlife (rabbits, deer, rodents, birds) that are effected (killed or otherwise)is surprisingly high.

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By *andKBCouple
over a year ago

Plymouth

"Before the hate starts I'm a vegan and proud of it (K).

Like many restaurants are now to keep up with the growing number of vegans

Nothing will ever be 100% ethical but vegetable farms are more ethical. It's about doing as much as I can that's how I see it.

Plus the fact dairy puts me in bed in agony for two days now. So for me veganism is important. There's actual research from arthritis UK to suggest a plant based diet can really help some people with arthritis. It's helped me and if I'm doing my bit along the way great.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Before the hate starts I'm a vegan and proud of it (K).

Like many restaurants are now to keep up with the growing number of vegans

Nothing will ever be 100% ethical but vegetable farms are more ethical. It's about doing as much as I can that's how I see it.

Not criticising you at all, and completely understand and respect your reasoning behind it. Just trying to highlight that neither side will ever be perfect so it should be case of doing your bit and educating people on your reasons why without tearing those that don’t adhere to your way of life (not referring to you personally, just people in general). I found this discussion with this guy very hard to get my head around, most vegans I meet are very peaceful and equally minded, wishing someone a lifetime of misery doesn’t usually come under the same umbrella.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The huge difference between vegetarian and vegan diets is humans can live healthily and locally as a vegetarian but vegan diets require vit B12 fortified foods (or injections) and lots of their foods have to be imported thus less environmentally friendly.

I have no probs with either as was vegetarian for years and have at times in my life known more vegans than non-vegans!

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By *lymDrewMan
over a year ago

plymouth

We don't have the digestive system of a carnivore though... All carnivores digestive systems are short, allowing the meat to be processed quickly and expelled before the meat starts to rot inside the system. Humans have a very long digestive tract to absorb the nutrients of harder to digest food stuffs than meat... It's got nothing to do with a few teeth...

There are two species that go against this rule, one is humans the other is Panda bears, Pandas should eat meat and have a short intestinal tract, which means they have to spend a lot of time eating bamboo shoots to get the energy to survive... Human occupation of their native land has made this very difficult for them to do this in the wild hence why they are bordering on extinction.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It amazes me how many people claim to be vegan yet have leather products, animal tested cosmetics etc.

Animals are used for human gain in more ways than one.

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By *opsy RogersWoman
over a year ago

London

Good grief what a load of rubbish! Meat does not rot inside a digestive system. You should look at basic anatomy and physiology.

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By *irkydirkyMan
over a year ago

Stevenage

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Cant tolerate vegans... Fine.. be vegan but dont push your beliefs onto everyone... most cant do this.

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By *andKBCouple
over a year ago

Plymouth

"Before the hate starts I'm a vegan and proud of it (K).

Like many restaurants are now to keep up with the growing number of vegans

Nothing will ever be 100% ethical but vegetable farms are more ethical. It's about doing as much as I can that's how I see it.

Unfortunately reading this post I can see why vegans can react the way they do!! Being referred to as idiots, terrorists, etc. Often the meat eaters are doing the attacking. Like the meat eater who went to a vegan festival and killed and ate a squirrel... Why?!

You should see some of the attacks I've seen from meat eaters then vegans retaliate and get the blame.

I have to say as a vegan I find a lot of vegans annoying and try to it vegan each other!! But equally meat eaters who attack me for no reason are annoying too!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

You should see some of the attacks I've seen from meat eaters then vegans retaliate and get the blame.

I have to say as a vegan I find a lot of vegans annoying and try to it vegan each other!! But equally meat eaters who attack me for no reason are annoying too! "

The difference between vegans and non-vegans (I’ve found anyway)is that you will rarely get a non-vegan who tells a vegan what they should or shouldn’t do/eat. However, vegans will go above and beyond to tell the opposition why everything they do is wrong. So you can understand why there is a certain amount of hostility on both sides.

This thread hasn’t quite gone the way I thought it would, like I said. I was shocked by this persons attitude towards farmers, and how narrow minded his view was.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Good grief what a load of rubbish! Meat does not rot inside a digestive system. You should look at basic anatomy and physiology. "

We're actually omnivores and are designed to eat both!

Meat just takes longer to digest then vegetables with fruit being the quickest!

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By *andKBCouple
over a year ago

Plymouth

You should see some of the attacks I've seen from meat eaters then vegans retaliate and get the blame.

I have to say as a vegan I find a lot of vegans annoying and try to it vegan each other!! But equally meat eaters who attack me for no reason are annoying too!

This thread hasn’t quite gone the way I thought it would, like I said. I was shocked by this persons attitude towards farmers, and how narrow minded his view was."

I have to say I haven't had the same experience! I've had someone at work try to put animal gravy on my food, add cheese to food she knows I'm going to eat (like to a salad when there's none spare left for me to make more).

I've had people make some really stupid remarks!! My mum isn't vegan at all a few weeks back we had to go to the hospital last minute. We both came out starving. The nearest place was pizza hut. My mum was quite happy to share a vegan pizza with me. My dad however would've spent an hour shouting at me calling me fussy!!

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By *opsy RogersWoman
over a year ago

London

Good grief what a load of rubbish! Meat does not rot inside a digestive system. You should look at basic anatomy and physiology.

We're actually omnivores and are designed to eat both!

Meat just takes longer to digest then vegetables with fruit being the quickest! "

Fruit is metabolised by the liver, most of it is turned into triglycerides, the stuff you don’t want.

Most of everything else we eat has a high percentage of ‘stuff’ that can’t be used so is turned into waste.

Animal protein is nearly all used and waste is little, hence not much produced as waste. The full spectrum of everything humans need to survive and thrive are found in animal proteins as long as it’s not confined to the consumption of lean muscle meat alone.

Vegans have to supplement with bio unavailable B12 in high doses.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You should see some of the attacks I've seen from meat eaters then vegans retaliate and get the blame.

I have to say as a vegan I find a lot of vegans annoying and try to it vegan each other!! But equally meat eaters who attack me for no reason are annoying too!

This thread hasn’t quite gone the way I thought it would, like I said. I was shocked by this persons attitude towards farmers, and how narrow minded his view was."

That simply isnt true

Ive been vegetarian for many years

I dont push it onto anyone. In fact, alot of people dont know.

Those that do know, are often very keen to give me THEIR opinions, though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Vegans choose their lifestyle right or wrong it’s up to them however when they start trying to force their decision onto others that’s always wrong.

They can be very smug and believe they are hero’s saving the planet grow up we have eaten meat since time began. You eat your lentils I will carry on enjoying my meat just leave me alone and I will leave you alone

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

I entertained a vegan this week and my courgette carrot and potato curry was surprisingly palatable. It was the first time I had specifically cooked a vegan meal but won’t be the last.

The Vegan Icecream was a little iffy though.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

You should see some of the attacks I've seen from meat eaters then vegans retaliate and get the blame.

I have to say as a vegan I find a lot of vegans annoying and try to it vegan each other!! But equally meat eaters who attack me for no reason are annoying too!

This thread hasn’t quite gone the way I thought it would, like I said. I was shocked by this persons attitude towards farmers, and how narrow minded his view was.

That simply isnt true

Ive been vegetarian for many years

I dont push it onto anyone. In fact, alot of people dont know.

Those that do know, are often very keen to give me THEIR opinions, though."

Maybe it isn’t true for you, but I’ve never questioned anyone on why they follow a certain type of lifestyle, and if I have it’s been simply out of curiosity and I’m keen to understand their motives/beliefs. If you had read my previous posts I think you’ll find that most of what I’ve said has been very subjective and I haven’t generalised at all, it’s simply my experiences. Please don’t say something isn’t true or false, because this is all subjective.

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By *stellaWoman
over a year ago

London

Why make this about all vegans when actually your issue is with one, and his stance on farming..?

Seems interesting.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’ve never had any beef with vegans.

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By *stellaWoman
over a year ago

London

"I’ve never had any beef with vegans."

You always d’liver, Tame.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Why make this about all vegans when actually your issue is with one, and his stance on farming..?

Seems interesting."

Veganism was his reasoning behind this stance, and as I’ve said on many posts here, it was all about that. However, most people have ignored that and just given their opinion on vegans in general. Unfortunately threads can’t be controlled.

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By *stellaWoman
over a year ago

London

"Why make this about all vegans when actually your issue is with one, and his stance on farming..?

Seems interesting.

They can be curated.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I’ve never had any beef with vegans."

Veganism is a huge missed steak.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Why make this about all vegans when actually your issue is with one, and his stance on farming..?

Seems interesting.

They can be curated."

Not when people ignore what you’re saying in favour of what they want to say even if it’s not really relevant...

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By *arbellsWoman
over a year ago

Cambridge

I'm a pescatarian but would never push my views on to other people. There is a huge difference between trying to educate/show why you have made that choice personally and being an utter twat about it. X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I entertained a vegan this week and my courgette carrot and potato curry was surprisingly palatable. It was the first time I had specifically cooked a vegan meal but won’t be the last.

The Vegan Icecream was a little iffy though. "

I did the same last week, first time I’ve cooked a vegan meal. I like a challenge plus he’s worth it.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

He's a twat first VEGAN second.

Lack of meat never made anyone a cunt.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

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By *ed PetalCouple
over a year ago

Kent

This guy is the kind of vegan that gives vegans a bad name! I am a mostly vegan & most of my friends who are vegan, hate to be associated with these kind of people.

Like someone said up thread: this guys is a twat first & foremost, vegan second!

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By *andKBCouple
over a year ago

Plymouth

C Here. Use the correct version, ergo: They're.

Calling people that phrase when basic English is beyond your limited brainpower is so dumb you've given me a headache on your behalf.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

Gimme a V ...... gimme an E...... gimme a G ......

Shit...... I ate cheese this morning ..

No wonder it's raining.

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By *evil_u_knowMan
over a year ago

city

A terrorist is person/group who uses illegal violence to push a political point of view.

Radical vegans could qualify.

However terrorists can be defined differently at different times, depending on which countries support their view.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"This guy is the kind of vegan that gives vegans a bad name! I am a mostly vegan & most of my friends who are vegan, hate to be associated with these kind of people.

Like someone said up thread: this guys is a twat first & foremost, vegan second!"

Agreed, perhaps I put too much emphasis on him being vegan, rather than just a horrible person.

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By *he Happy ManMan
over a year ago

Merseyside

"So I’ve just had a very unpleasant conversation with a guy I know who is vegan (not on or from

I understand being passionate about animal welfare, and having compassion but what about compassion for your fellow man?

I respect anyone that chooses to follow a vegan lifestyle, but are these kind of attitudes towards farmers fair?

Vegans are often very self righteous.

Why did the vegan cross the road?

So they could also tell everybody on that side of the road they are a vegan.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

I want my fucking medal NOW!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fuck em more steak for me

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By *xMFM3sumsxxWoman
over a year ago

SouthWest Lancashire

I think you meant *they're*..

Hippos have canines and they don't eat meat. Try again.

I don’t think there’s any need to throw low blows like correcting people’s spelling.

Also, hippos are omnivores."

I do when they use the word retarded as a slur.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So boring isn't it huns

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By *appyhumper123Man
over a year ago

hull

Vaganism, a load of shite, i'll eat what I want to eat not what some gob shite tells me what they think I should eat, parasites

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So I’ve just had a very unpleasant conversation with a guy I know who is vegan (not on or from

I understand being passionate about animal welfare, and having compassion but what about compassion for your fellow man?

I respect anyone that chooses to follow a vegan lifestyle, but are these kind of attitudes towards farmers fair?

£50 says he’s got a leather couch, leather car seats, some nice leather shoes, belts.

Does he think about the damage to the environment and animals (that aren’t on farms) when his smart phone is made in many different countries around the world then shipped polluting the seas, the air etc etc.

Instead of being up their own arses maybe they should educate on how each person can make subtle changes making a big difference rather than ramming “you’re an animal murderer” down your throat

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over a year ago

"Vaganism, a load of shite, i'll eat what I want to eat not what some gob shite tells me what they think I should eat, parasites"
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Who’s telling you what to eat? My vegan friends eat what they want and don’t dictate to me what I eat. Parasites is a strong word to describe animal loving people.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’m vegetarian, I never go off on tangents nor push my preferences/beliefs onto others. It seems that the carnivores are doing as they usually do on this thread though, which is to bash all that they disbelieve in. It’s almost akin to the reasons for them hiding their faces on here. (Vanilla - swingers)

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By *indkink82Man
over a year ago

Caistor

In that case I am a disabled vegan lol non capable terrorist pmsl

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I’m vegetarian, I never go off on tangents nor push my preferences/beliefs onto others. It seems that the carnivores are doing as they usually do on this thread though, which is to bash all that they disbelieve in. It’s almost akin to the reasons for them hiding their faces on here. (Vanilla - swingers)"

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By *appyhumper123Man
over a year ago

hull

"Vaganism, a load of shite, i'll eat what I want to eat not what some gob shite tells me what they think I should eat, parasitesm

Who’s telling you what to eat? My vegan friends eat what they want and don’t dictate to me what I eat. Parasites is a strong word to describe animal loving people. "
when you get stopped in the street cos you're eating a burger or some other kind of meat and they call you a murderer then yes their having a go I don't stop them in the street and have a go cos their eating a vagan burger

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Vaganism, a load of shite, i'll eat what I want to eat not what some gob shite tells me what they think I should eat, parasitesm

Who’s telling you what to eat? My vegan friends eat what they want and don’t dictate to me what I eat. Parasites is a strong word to describe animal loving people. when you get stopped in the street cos you're eating a burger or some other kind of meat and they call you a murderer then yes their having a go I don't stop them in the street and have a go cos their eating a vagan burger "

Most vegans would not do that. That’s just rare and just like those idiots that ate a squirrel recently at an anti vegan protest. Don’t judge everyone in the same way.

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over a year ago

I'm not really a fan of farmers, not the ones I've met. They all seem to be loaded, eccentric and do very little work. Tenant Farmers on the other hand. The opposite, passionate, hardworking and doing it for love, not money.

Humanity is booming. Alternatives need exploring, I've no problem with people preaching. Nobody likes a fundamentalist though.

I'm a Darwinist. I've got some sharp teeth and I've got some flat teeth. My mind has the freedom to choose, my body needs time to adapt, my wallet speaks for itself.

Top Predator on the planet won't stay top for long if it doesn't exercise the intelligence that got it to top dog spot in the first place.

Survival of the fittest. Not the strongest.

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By *appyhumper123Man
over a year ago

hull

"Vaganism, a load of shite, i'll eat what I want to eat not what some gob shite tells me what they think I should eat, parasitesm

Most vegans would not do that. That’s just rare and just like those idiots that ate a squirrel recently at an anti vegan protest. Don’t judge everyone in the same way. "
beg to differ but there you go

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Vaganism, a load of shite, i'll eat what I want to eat not what some gob shite tells me what they think I should eat, parasitesm

Most vegans would not do that. That’s just rare and just like those idiots that ate a squirrel recently at an anti vegan protest. Don’t judge everyone in the same way. beg to differ but there you go"

Do you actually know many vegans? I’m pretty close to a few and i respect their choices and discipline. I wish I could do it but I’m weak and know I would cave. One day maybe, one day.

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By *appyhumper123Man
over a year ago

hull

"Vaganism, a load of shite, i'll eat what I want to eat not what some gob shite tells me what they think I should eat, parasitesm

Do you actually know many vegans? I’m pretty close to a few and i respect their choices and discipline. I wish I could do it but I’m weak and know I would cave. One day maybe, one day. "
yes, my daughter and a few at work but they don't shove it down your throat they have their choice I have mine it just the idiots who think they their views are more important than anybody elses

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Just because carnivores seem to make up most of the responses to this thread doesn’t mean we’re all bashing. I haven’t once bashed anyone’s choice for being a vegan or a vegetarian, I respect their choice. What I don’t respect is people who will literally wish a miserable life on someone else because of their occupation, an occupation that has most likely been handed down through generations. And they use veganism as an excuse or reason to spread this horrible kind of hate. That’s what this thread is about.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Vaganism, a load of shite, i'll eat what I want to eat not what some gob shite tells me what they think I should eat, parasitesm

Do you actually know many vegans? I’m pretty close to a few and i respect their choices and discipline. I wish I could do it but I’m weak and know I would cave. One day maybe, one day. yes, my daughter and a few at work but they don't shove it down your throat they have their choice I have mine it just the idiots who think they their views are more important than anybody elses"

You seem quite passionate to get your view across also.

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By *appyhumper123Man
over a year ago

hull

"Vaganism, a load of shite, i'll eat what I want to eat not what some gob shite tells me what they think I should eat, parasitesm

You seem quite passionate to get your view across also. "
soz I just don't like people telling me what I can and cant do I had it at a cash machine once a bible basher asked me if I believed in god, I told him I was an athist and he would let it go I just don't need people shoving their believes down my throat, bit random that lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I was referring to those that irl instantly shun and give their own and, quite frankly - un-wanted opinion on dietary matters, as soon as the word vegan/vegetarian is mentioned.

It was of course, in reference to the majority of ignorant bile being spewed in response to your op though. (Not you personally) I understand and agree entirely with the point in which you made. There are extremists in all walks of life, we can just sigh and walk away.

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