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By *icketysplits OP   Woman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

There's a programme in BBC1 now discussing circumcision, children's rights and whether it should be banned in the UK.

Any thoughts?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What about medical reasons?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Unless there's a clear medical need, ban it, wanna do it for cosmetic reasons as an adult? Go for it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Unless there's a clear medical need, ban it, wanna do it for cosmetic reasons as an adult? Go for it. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Unless there's a clear medical need, ban it, wanna do it for cosmetic reasons as an adult? Go for it. "

Poor wee babies

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

No it shouldnt be banned. Plenty of children have it done for medical reasons that could cause them severe problems later in life

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By *alking HeadMan
over a year ago

Bolton


"Unless there's a clear medical need, ban it, wanna do it for cosmetic reasons as an adult? Go for it. "

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By *VineMan
over a year ago

The right place

I’m watching with interest.

I haven’t given it much thought before.

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By *ntrigued32Couple
over a year ago

Nottingham


"Unless there's a clear medical need, ban it, wanna do it for cosmetic reasons as an adult? Go for it. "

This.

Jo.Xx

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By *icketysplits OP   Woman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"What about medical reasons?"

I don't think they are talking about preventing it for medical reasons.

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By *icketysplits OP   Woman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"I’m watching with interest.

I haven’t given it much thought before. "

It's a thoughtful piece and the damage done to some men is hard to hear. We have banned FGM, why would this be different?

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By *VineMan
over a year ago

The right place


"I’m watching with interest.

I haven’t given it much thought before.

It's a thoughtful piece and the damage done to some men is hard to hear. We have banned FGM, why would this be different?

"

Yes, it’s a really well made documentary.

I think FGM is a lot worse than male circumcision but I don’t think it’s relevant anymore. I think in ancient times in hot countries there may have been an argument that it’s more hygienic but I don’t think that argument holds these days.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I was done as a young child, but mine was due tight foreskin, ive had no issues, except at school changing rooms when most boys werent.

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By *icketysplits OP   Woman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"I’m watching with interest.

I haven’t given it much thought before.

It's a thoughtful piece and the damage done to some men is hard to hear. We have banned FGM, why would this be different?

Yes, it’s a really well made documentary.

I think FGM is a lot worse than male circumcision but I don’t think it’s relevant anymore. I think in ancient times in hot countries there may have been an argument that it’s more hygienic but I don’t think that argument holds these days. "

I assume you mean that circumcision isn't relevant any more. I'm not sure FGM ever was. I agree FGM is a lot worse - I've seen the damage.

It's whether the risk is worth perpetuating this practice on 8 day old baby boys? At the least it needs to be regulated.

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By *icketysplits OP   Woman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"I was done as a young child, but mine was due tight foreskin, ive had no issues, except at school changing rooms when most boys werent."

How did that make you feel?

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By *loswingersCouple
over a year ago

Gloucester

It was an interesting programme.

I was circumcised as an infant, and not for religious reasons, and my parents told me it was because it’s cleaner.

Maybe because I’ve never known any different, but I’m perfectly ok with that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I was done as a young child, but mine was due tight foreskin, ive had no issues, except at school changing rooms when most boys werent.

How did that make you feel?

"

At the time a bit shy as felt different, but as got older realised more were cut, also partners have commented they like the look of it.

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By *VineMan
over a year ago

The right place


"I’m watching with interest.

I haven’t given it much thought before.

It's a thoughtful piece and the damage done to some men is hard to hear. We have banned FGM, why would this be different?

Yes, it’s a really well made documentary.

I think FGM is a lot worse than male circumcision but I don’t think it’s relevant anymore. I think in ancient times in hot countries there may have been an argument that it’s more hygienic but I don’t think that argument holds these days.

I assume you mean that circumcision isn't relevant any more. I'm not sure FGM ever was. I agree FGM is a lot worse - I've seen the damage.

It's whether the risk is worth perpetuating this practice on 8 day old baby boys? At the least it needs to be regulated.

"

Yes, sorry, it wasn’t clear. But FGM should be banned. And I think male circumcision isn’t necessary. However, I think, I agree with the point made in the program that it shouldn’t be banned as it will go underground. I think that it’s a change that needs to come culturally.

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By *icketysplits OP   Woman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"It was an interesting programme.

I was circumcised as an infant, and not for religious reasons, and my parents told me it was because it’s cleaner.

Maybe because I’ve never known any different, but I’m perfectly ok with that."

I think that is probably the case for the majority of men. It's those where it goes wrong that might not be happy with the decision their parents made.

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By *icketysplits OP   Woman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"I was done as a young child, but mine was due tight foreskin, ive had no issues, except at school changing rooms when most boys werent.

How did that make you feel?

At the time a bit shy as felt different, but as got older realised more were cut, also partners have commented they like the look of it."

The 'look' issue is the one that I most uncomfortable about.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I was done as a young child, but mine was due tight foreskin, ive had no issues, except at school changing rooms when most boys werent.

How did that make you feel?

At the time a bit shy as felt different, but as got older realised more were cut, also partners have commented they like the look of it.

The 'look' issue is the one that I most uncomfortable about. "

You mean people getting it done because they think it looks better?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

All Muslim and Jewish men are circumcised. Trying to make it illegal in the UK will cause a whole shit heap of trouble.

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By *d59michelleTV/TS
over a year ago

walsall

More shit stirring by the Beeb ?

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By *icketysplits OP   Woman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"I was done as a young child, but mine was due tight foreskin, ive had no issues, except at school changing rooms when most boys werent.

How did that make you feel?

At the time a bit shy as felt different, but as got older realised more were cut, also partners have commented they like the look of it.

The 'look' issue is the one that I most uncomfortable about.

You mean people getting it done because they think it looks better?"

Yes, but also suggesting that natural is not acceptable.

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By *ecretpantyTV/TS
over a year ago

lisburn

What percentage off men are Circumcised in the UK?

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By *icketysplits OP   Woman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"All Muslim and Jewish men are circumcised. Trying to make it illegal in the UK will cause a whole shit heap of trouble."

The programme agrees with you.

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By *icketysplits OP   Woman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"More shit stirring by the Beeb ?

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No. It was a reasoned and sensitive exploration.

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By *icketysplits OP   Woman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"What percentage off men are Circumcised in the UK? "

I don't know. It would be difficult to find out because it's not regulated or recorded.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I was done as a young child, but mine was due tight foreskin, ive had no issues, except at school changing rooms when most boys werent.

How did that make you feel?

At the time a bit shy as felt different, but as got older realised more were cut, also partners have commented they like the look of it.

The 'look' issue is the one that I most uncomfortable about.

You mean people getting it done because they think it looks better?

Yes, but also suggesting that natural is not acceptable.

"

Like i said most boys my age werent and mine was medical, and seeing my helmet size i know why mine was done lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"All Muslim and Jewish men are circumcised. Trying to make it illegal in the UK will cause a whole shit heap of trouble.

The programme agrees with you."

I didn't see it, but this country can't pluck up the courage to ban burkas which are known to cause physical problems, and those aren't even mentioned in the texts. Circumcision comes straight from the mouth of the prophet.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"All Muslim and Jewish men are circumcised. Trying to make it illegal in the UK will cause a whole shit heap of trouble.

The programme agrees with you.

I didn't see it, but this country can't pluck up the courage to ban burkas which are known to cause physical problems, and those aren't even mentioned in the texts. Circumcision comes straight from the mouth of the prophet."

And I've just read that last sentence out loud . I mean the law of Circumcision comes straight from the mouth of the prophet.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No it shouldnt be banned. Plenty of children have it done for medical reasons that could cause them severe problems later in life"

If it's medical it's done under anesthetic. If I'm not mistaken the issue is with performing a circumcisions without which causes immense pain.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"All Muslim and Jewish men are circumcised. Trying to make it illegal in the UK will cause a whole shit heap of trouble."

This is not true. Many Jewish parents now don't have a bris.

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By *partharmonyCouple
over a year ago

Ruislip

Routine infant circumcision should very much be banned. It is a violation of bodily autonomy and is no more acceptable that cutting off a child's ear. I don't care what religious reasoning people come up with. It should not be allowed on somebody who cannot consent. The trouble is I don't think society is ready for that yet so a big cultural shift is needed before that can happen.

It should only be permitted in the case of medical need.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"All Muslim and Jewish men are circumcised. Trying to make it illegal in the UK will cause a whole shit heap of trouble.

This is not true. Many Jewish parents now don't have a bris."

Have you a reliable source for that statement? I've looked and can't find anything. I suppose it depends on their commitment to their faith, like every religion, but I think it's safe to say that the majority of the faithful males of those religions still undergo circumcision.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire


"All Muslim and Jewish men are circumcised. Trying to make it illegal in the UK will cause a whole shit heap of trouble.

This is not true. Many Jewish parents now don't have a bris.

Have you a reliable source for that statement? I've looked and can't find anything. I suppose it depends on their commitment to their faith, like every religion, but I think it's safe to say that the majority of the faithful males of those religions still undergo circumcision."
my partner is jewish and not circumzied in fact a lot of jewish boys born during the war werent

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"All Muslim and Jewish men are circumcised. Trying to make it illegal in the UK will cause a whole shit heap of trouble.

This is not true. Many Jewish parents now don't have a bris.

Have you a reliable source for that statement? I've looked and can't find anything. I suppose it depends on their commitment to their faith, like every religion, but I think it's safe to say that the majority of the faithful males of those religions still undergo circumcision."

Yes I'm Jewish and non practicing. It depends if your Orthodox or not, it's very complicated.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"All Muslim and Jewish men are circumcised. Trying to make it illegal in the UK will cause a whole shit heap of trouble.

This is not true. Many Jewish parents now don't have a bris.

Have you a reliable source for that statement? I've looked and can't find anything. I suppose it depends on their commitment to their faith, like every religion, but I think it's safe to say that the majority of the faithful males of those religions still undergo circumcision.

Yes I'm Jewish and non practicing. It depends if your Orthodox or not, it's very complicated."

I'm also not circumzied

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By *he Happy ManMan
over a year ago

Merseyside


"There's a programme in BBC1 now discussing circumcision, children's rights and whether it should be banned in the UK.

Any thoughts?

"

If you look at it purely from evolution or God perspective men have foreskin for a reason.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you don't think it's necessary you don't seem to have had the problem of a tight foreskin which can be extremely painful.

If parents are told that for medical and hygiene reasons it should be considered they have the moral authority to make a decision for the future benefit of their child, parents are expected to make these decisions based on the facts they have presented to them at the time, and shouldn't have to have the added stress of some moron sat on their high horse spouting what's right and wrong (as if they don't have enough worries with their child growing up as it is)

From personal experience I wish my parents had the sense to make the decision on my behalf when I was a child and the recovery time would have been a lot shorter instead of me discovering quite painfully that there was a problem later in life and having to do something about it myself and have to go through over 6 weeks of recovery time.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"All Muslim and Jewish men are circumcised. Trying to make it illegal in the UK will cause a whole shit heap of trouble.

This is not true. Many Jewish parents now don't have a bris.

Have you a reliable source for that statement? I've looked and can't find anything. I suppose it depends on their commitment to their faith, like every religion, but I think it's safe to say that the majority of the faithful males of those religions still undergo circumcision.

Yes I'm Jewish and non practicing. It depends if your Orthodox or not, it's very complicated."

Fair enough, maybe it's more a UK Jewish thing? I've been to many a Bris back home. The food's always so good

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By *asilForty77Man
over a year ago

a hundred and sixty of us living in a small shoebox in the middle of the road

Argh the old Pierre Cardin roll neck or Leatherhead debate

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If you don't think it's necessary you don't seem to have had the problem of a tight foreskin which can be extremely painful.

If parents are told that for medical and hygiene reasons it should be considered they have the moral authority to make a decision for the future benefit of their child, parents are expected to make these decisions based on the facts they have presented to them at the time, and shouldn't have to have the added stress of some moron sat on their high horse spouting what's right and wrong (as if they don't have enough worries with their child growing up as it is)

From personal experience I wish my parents had the sense to make the decision on my behalf when I was a child and the recovery time would have been a lot shorter instead of me discovering quite painfully that there was a problem later in life and having to do something about it myself and have to go through over 6 weeks of recovery time."

Exactly why im glad mine did.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"All Muslim and Jewish men are circumcised. Trying to make it illegal in the UK will cause a whole shit heap of trouble.

This is not true. Many Jewish parents now don't have a bris.

Have you a reliable source for that statement? I've looked and can't find anything. I suppose it depends on their commitment to their faith, like every religion, but I think it's safe to say that the majority of the faithful males of those religions still undergo circumcision.

Yes I'm Jewish and non practicing. It depends if your Orthodox or not, it's very complicated.

Fair enough, maybe it's more a UK Jewish thing? I've been to many a Bris back home. The food's always so good

"

Not really.

I haven't seen this program but I'd imagine it's more about genital mutilation.

They should ban sucking the baby's dick afterwards.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

In fact when i was at school quite a lot of boys had been circumzied(dont know if it was an age thing) but they used to call themselves roundheads or cavaliers

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If it's for religious reasons, I'm dead against it. I'm totally opposed to parents inflicting their religious beliefs onto their children fullstop.

Picking someone's Faith for them before they can even talk? Brainwashing of the highest order.

To go a step further and mutilate your childs genitals, in order that they become a 'Proper person of Faith'.

I don't care if the Religions who practice genital mutilation get a bit stroppy when we tell them to stop cutting bits off their children. It's fucked up and shouldn't happen for anything other than medical reasons.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If it's for religious reasons, I'm dead against it. I'm totally opposed to parents inflicting their religious beliefs onto their children fullstop.

Picking someone's Faith for them before they can even talk? Brainwashing of the highest order.

To go a step further and mutilate your childs genitals, in order that they become a 'Proper person of Faith'.

I don't care if the Religions who practice genital mutilation get a bit stroppy when we tell them to stop cutting bits off their children. It's fucked up and shouldn't happen for anything other than medical reasons.

"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If it's for religious reasons, I'm dead against it. I'm totally opposed to parents inflicting their religious beliefs onto their children fullstop.

Picking someone's Faith for them before they can even talk? Brainwashing of the highest order.

To go a step further and mutilate your childs genitals, in order that they become a 'Proper person of Faith'.

I don't care if the Religions who practice get a bit stroppy when we tell them to stop cutting bits off their children. It's fucked up and shouldn't happen for anything other than medical reasons.

"

I totally agree and female genital mutilation gets a lot of attention and calling for it to outlawed and rightly so but it has be the same for boys.

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By *eal_curves_is_backWoman
over a year ago

London


"All Muslim and Jewish men are circumcised. Trying to make it illegal in the UK will cause a whole shit heap of trouble.

This is not true. Many Jewish parents now don't have a bris.

Have you a reliable source for that statement? I've looked and can't find anything. I suppose it depends on their commitment to their faith, like every religion, but I think it's safe to say that the majority of the faithful males of those religions still undergo circumcision.

Yes I'm Jewish and non practicing. It depends if your Orthodox or not, it's very complicated.

Fair enough, maybe it's more a UK Jewish thing? I've been to many a Bris back home. The food's always so good

Not really.

I haven't seen this program but I'd imagine it's more about genital mutilation.

They should ban sucking the baby's dick afterwards. "

It is already banned and it is not sucking the duck - it is sucking blood off through a tube. People were prosecuted for it a while ago.

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By *eal_curves_is_backWoman
over a year ago

London


"All Muslim and Jewish men are circumcised. Trying to make it illegal in the UK will cause a whole shit heap of trouble.

This is not true. Many Jewish parents now don't have a bris.

Have you a reliable source for that statement? I've looked and can't find anything. I suppose it depends on their commitment to their faith, like every religion, but I think it's safe to say that the majority of the faithful males of those religions still undergo circumcision.

Yes I'm Jewish and non practicing. It depends if your Orthodox or not, it's very complicated.

Fair enough, maybe it's more a UK Jewish thing? I've been to many a Bris back home. The food's always so good

"

Hehe. Not just kosher but also tastes good?

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By *eal_curves_is_backWoman
over a year ago

London


"All Muslim and Jewish men are circumcised. Trying to make it illegal in the UK will cause a whole shit heap of trouble.

This is not true. Many Jewish parents now don't have a bris.

Have you a reliable source for that statement? I've looked and can't find anything. I suppose it depends on their commitment to their faith, like every religion, but I think it's safe to say that the majority of the faithful males of those religions still undergo circumcision."

Some purely secular families and some Reform/Liberal/Progressive ones. Well, my son had it and is fine, thank you very much. Those calling for a ban have very good historical company (not).

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By *eal_curves_is_backWoman
over a year ago

London


"All Muslim and Jewish men are circumcised. Trying to make it illegal in the UK will cause a whole shit heap of trouble."

Also a lot of African men.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

All I got was a colouring book in exchange for my foreskin, wasn't even any felts

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Medical reasons - crack on.

Anything other than medical reasons, you're mutilating your baby.

Fuck, I'm pretty sure it's illegal to dock dogs tails or clip dogs ears unless carried out by a certified vet and for very specific reasons. Should be the same with babies. Well, by a doctor, with proper pain relief and medical care, not a vet of course.

And no, I don't agree with piercing childrens ears until they're old enough to decide for themselves.

P

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By *eal_curves_is_backWoman
over a year ago

London


"Medical reasons - crack on.

Anything other than medical reasons, you're mutilating your baby.

Fuck, I'm pretty sure it's illegal to dock dogs tails or clip dogs ears unless carried out by a certified vet and for very specific reasons. Should be the same with babies. Well, by a doctor, with proper pain relief and medical care, not a vet of course.

And no, I don't agree with piercing childrens ears until they're old enough to decide for themselves.

P"

It is done by qualified medical professionals in this country. Ours was a GP.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Medical reasons - crack on.

Anything other than medical reasons, you're mutilating your baby.

Fuck, I'm pretty sure it's illegal to dock dogs tails or clip dogs ears unless carried out by a certified vet and for very specific reasons. Should be the same with babies. Well, by a doctor, with proper pain relief and medical care, not a vet of course.

And no, I don't agree with piercing childrens ears until they're old enough to decide for themselves.

P

It is done by qualified medical professionals in this country. Ours was a GP."

As it should be. Doesn't change my opinion in the least that I feel it should only be done for medical purposes though.

P

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't believe it should be allowed to be circumcised for aesthetic or religious reasons.

I do think valid medical reasons should be an exemption to the rule.

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By *isaB45Woman
over a year ago

Fabville


"I’m watching with interest.

I haven’t given it much thought before.

It's a thoughtful piece and the damage done to some men is hard to hear. We have banned FGM, why would this be different?

Yes, it’s a really well made documentary.

I think FGM is a lot worse than male circumcision but I don’t think it’s relevant anymore. I think in ancient times in hot countries there may have been an argument that it’s more hygienic but I don’t think that argument holds these days.

I assume you mean that circumcision isn't relevant any more. I'm not sure FGM ever was. I agree FGM is a lot worse - I've seen the damage.

It's whether the risk is worth perpetuating this practice on 8 day old baby boys? At the least it needs to be regulated.

Yes, sorry, it wasn’t clear. But FGM should be banned. And I think male circumcision isn’t necessary. However, I think, I agree with the point made in the program that it shouldn’t be banned as it will go underground. I think that it’s a change that needs to come culturally. "

FGM is illegal in the UK.

Why should Male Genital Mutilation (other than medically indicated circumstances) be any different?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If it's for religious reasons, I'm dead against it. I'm totally opposed to parents inflicting their religious beliefs onto their children fullstop.

Picking someone's Faith for them before they can even talk? Brainwashing of the highest order.

To go a step further and mutilate your childs genitals, in order that they become a 'Proper person of Faith'.

I don't care if the Religions who practice genital mutilation get a bit stroppy when we tell them to stop cutting bits off their children. It's fucked up and shouldn't happen for anything other than medical reasons.

"

Yes- everything is perfectly ok because religion....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If someone's nose had to be removed for medical reasons, then by all means feel free.

Can you go and legally have your nose removed due to preference? Or because a silly out of date religion demands it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am cut and my dick does not work anymore

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over a year ago

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By *unsexual MemelordWoman
over a year ago

Midlothian


"Unless there's a clear medical need, ban it, wanna do it for cosmetic reasons as an adult? Go for it. "

It's unnecessary genital mutilation of a person with zero capability to consent, and it can cause issues in later life (unwanted desensitisation, too much skin removed causing pain when erect, the occasional fuck up which destroys the whole penis, etc.) Shouldn't be legal, unless the baby medically requires it, or a consenting adult makes their own choice to do it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If it's for religious reasons, I'm dead against it. I'm totally opposed to parents inflicting their religious beliefs onto their children fullstop.

Picking someone's Faith for them before they can even talk? Brainwashing of the highest order.

To go a step further and mutilate your childs genitals, in order that they become a 'Proper person of Faith'.

I don't care if the Religions who practice genital mutilation get a bit stroppy when we tell them to stop cutting bits off their children. It's fucked up and shouldn't happen for anything other than medical reasons.

"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Unless there's a clear medical need, ban it, wanna do it for cosmetic reasons as an adult? Go for it.

It's unnecessary genital mutilation of a person with zero capability to consent, and it can cause issues in later life (unwanted desensitisation, too much skin removed causing pain when erect, the occasional fuck up which destroys the whole penis, etc.) Shouldn't be legal, unless the baby medically requires it, or a consenting adult makes their own choice to do it.

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Let's say if it is done for medical reason but the surgeon fucks it up anyway...the problems you mentioned above would be okay then even if the baby did not consent ?

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By *unsexual MemelordWoman
over a year ago

Midlothian


"Unless there's a clear medical need, ban it, wanna do it for cosmetic reasons as an adult? Go for it.

It's unnecessary genital mutilation of a person with zero capability to consent, and it can cause issues in later life (unwanted desensitisation, too much skin removed causing pain when erect, the occasional fuck up which destroys the whole penis, etc.) Shouldn't be legal, unless the baby medically requires it, or a consenting adult makes their own choice to do it.

Let's say if it is done for medical reason but the surgeon fucks it up anyway...the problems you mentioned above would be okay then even if the baby did not consent ? "

Did I say they would be? Of course not, for goodness' sake. The point is that a medical need for circumcision is much less common than simply by choice, so any mistakes by a doctor are in turn far less likely to occur; plus, a doctor doing it for a legitimate medical reason in hospital gives the patient anaesthetic. That's not usually the case otherwise.

In my opinion, it's messed up that a healthy baby can legally have their foreskin knifed off for no good cause without proper pain relief, and it's just as messed up that anyone thinks such a thing is acceptable.

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over a year ago


"Unless there's a clear medical need, ban it, wanna do it for cosmetic reasons as an adult? Go for it.

It's unnecessary genital mutilation of a person with zero capability to consent, and it can cause issues in later life (unwanted desensitisation, too much skin removed causing pain when erect, the occasional fuck up which destroys the whole penis, etc.) Shouldn't be legal, unless the baby medically requires it, or a consenting adult makes their own choice to do it.

Let's say if it is done for medical reason but the surgeon fucks it up anyway...the problems you mentioned above would be okay then even if the baby did not consent ?

Did I say they would be? Of course not, for goodness' sake. The point is that a medical need for circumcision is much less common than simply by choice, so any mistakes by a doctor are in turn far less likely to occur; plus, a doctor doing it for a legitimate medical reason in hospital gives the patient anaesthetic. That's not usually the case otherwise.

In my opinion, it's messed up that a healthy baby can legally have their foreskin knifed off for no good cause without proper pain relief, and it's just as messed up that anyone thinks such a thing is acceptable. "

They do give proper pain relief. I don't know if you ever assisted to one but they do. They gave me proper pain relief and I didn't feel anything and it was done in a proper clinic with proper medical staff.

And of course it is absolutely not acceptable to inflict that to a baby without pain relief, for medical or religious reasons.

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By *hatYorkLadMan
over a year ago

York


"I was done as a young child, but mine was due tight foreskin, ive had no issues, except at school changing rooms when most boys werent."

Same, I was around 10 and it earned me the embarassing nickname "babybel" at secondary school for a while not ashamed of it as an adult though!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Medical reasons - crack on.

Anything other than medical reasons, you're mutilating your baby.

Fuck, I'm pretty sure it's illegal to dock dogs tails or clip dogs ears unless carried out by a certified vet and for very specific reasons. Should be the same with babies. Well, by a doctor, with proper pain relief and medical care, not a vet of course.

And no, I don't agree with piercing childrens ears until they're old enough to decide for themselves.

P"

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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago

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"Unless there's a clear medical need, ban it, wanna do it for cosmetic reasons as an adult? Go for it. "

I agree

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By *olton_bossMan
over a year ago

London

I was in pain when I was a kid because it was too tight or something. I don’t actually remember though as I was really young. Maybe I should actually clarify with my parents but that’s not the kinda talk I like to have with em!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Unless there's a clear medical need, ban it, wanna do it for cosmetic reasons as an adult? Go for it.

It's unnecessary genital mutilation of a person with zero capability to consent, and it can cause issues in later life (unwanted desensitisation, too much skin removed causing pain when erect, the occasional fuck up which destroys the whole penis, etc.) Shouldn't be legal, unless the baby medically requires it, or a consenting adult makes their own choice to do it.

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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago

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My son was circumcised when he was 4. I desperately didn’t want it to happen because he was a toddler and who wants their toddler to have an operation?

It’s several years ago now and it was in a NHS hospital but at that time didn’t didn’t give pain relief until after the operation. I don’t think I would like to go through that with pain relief.

I was also told that where years ago they would tell health visitors and nurses to advise us to pull the foreskin back to wash, it was now advised not to which has ultimately led to a rise in circumcision for medical reasons.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My son was circumcised when he was 4. I desperately didn’t want it to happen because he was a toddler and who wants their toddler to have an operation?

It’s several years ago now and it was in a NHS hospital but at that time didn’t didn’t give pain relief until after the operation. I don’t think I would like to go through that with pain relief.

I was also told that where years ago they would tell health visitors and nurses to advise us to pull the foreskin back to wash, it was now advised not to which has ultimately led to a rise in circumcision for medical reasons. "

As a child, I had a tight forsekin

My Mum was told to put me in a warm bath and pull my foreskin back repeatedly

If that didn't solve it, circumcision would be needed

Thankfully, it worked

As an adult, I am 'intact' and it all works as it should

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's barbaric and should be banned unless for medical reasons. I love my foreskin!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If there is a clear medical need for it, then fine. The routine circumcision of infants for religious or societal reasons is genital mutilation and should be banned.

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