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Trump ,racist? Facist? Hhhhmmm?

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By *ifferent69 OP   Man
over a year ago

BRIGHTON, UK

Firstly i truely believe 99.9 % of people find direct,in your face , obvious racism adhorrent.

Touchy subject ,stop reading if offends.

I,m no academic nor of high iq ...

However i think either deliberately or by mistake .Trump has shone a light on a area of concern thats in "plain sight"but society does not wish to address.

This being the thinly veiled rascism that exists behind cultural,and ethnic bias.

Crudely put , if a white person says something they are jumped and oustraciced immediately. However we are not so quick to call out those with similar views from religous,cultural or community inheritance, due to fear of antogonising this group, who would reverse allegations upon those who do call it out.

Think this Trump inadvertadlily has opened the debate on that " elephant in the room"

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By *arlomaleMan
over a year ago

darlington

He’s the big boss man he can say what he likes tbh nobody really takes him seriously I don’t think even as mad as the yanks are they won’t give him another term

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Firstly i truely believe 99.9 % of people find direct,in your face , obvious racism adhorrent.

Touchy subject ,stop reading if offends.

I,m no academic nor of high iq ...

However i think either deliberately or by mistake .Trump has shone a light on a area of concern thats in "plain sight"but society does not wish to address.

This being the thinly veiled rascism that exists behind cultural,and ethnic bias.

Crudely put , if a white person says something they are jumped and oustraciced immediately. However we are not so quick to call out those with similar views from religous,cultural or community inheritance, due to fear of antogonising this group, who would reverse allegations upon those who do call it out.

Think this Trump inadvertadlily has opened the debate on that " elephant in the room""

It's just not a Thursday night subject, matey. We've had enough by Thursday night. We're going to put a token effort in for half a day tomorrow, then stuff it, switch off, think of nothing but ourselves and our loved ones.

The weekend is all about not getting pissed on by a dog, everything else is a bonus.

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool

I mean he literally assumed a group of women weren't American because they weren't white and then had a crowd chanting "send her back" about one of them but okay.

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East


"However we are not so quick to call out those with similar views from religous,cultural or community inheritance, due to fear of antogonising this group, who would reverse allegations upon those who do call it out.

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Who would you like to call out? What have they done or said?

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

I think you are a Trump admirer, just from your post.

I'm in the group that gets told to 'Go back home' - it's so regular now that this isn't opening up a debate it's enabling people to actively, physically hate and abuse their fellow citizens.

I'm out of this 'debate' now.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"He’s the big boss man he can say what he likes tbh nobody really takes him seriously I don’t think even as mad as the yanks are they won’t give him another term "

The chanting and lack of obvious challenger says otherwise.

This now belongs in the P forum, if it's discussing the politics.

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By *ust ClareTV/TS
over a year ago

Settlewick!

I saw the crowd baying 'send her back' on the news and the Nuremberg rallies came to mind

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's a country where you have cops executing people on camera and walking free, it wouldn't shock me if the changed the constitution and he ran his term to the grave.

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By *retty GoodMan
over a year ago

Cardiff Bay

How dare you mention that name on here.

Fab sin 107

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By *ondonFreakMan
over a year ago

London

Not only does he have the maturity level & turn of phrase of a 9 year old, he's an enabler.. The fact he has thousands at rallys chanting "send them home" & he doesn't say a word against it, tells you everything you need to know about him & his cult followers.

What if one of those crazed zombies in the audience take it upon themselves to assassinate one of the women he referred to? What's he gonna say then?

He`s simply scum & he needs removing ASAP.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

He's not as much of a fool that he likes to make out

His faux pa's are deliberate and intended

He is a dangerous man

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool


"Not only does he have the maturity level & turn of phrase of a 9 year old, he's an enabler.. The fact he has thousands at rallys chanting "send them home" & he doesn't say a word against it, tells you everything you need to know about him & his cult followers.

What if one of those crazed zombies in the audience take it upon themselves to assassinate one of the women he referred to? What's he gonna say then?

He`s simply scum & he needs removing ASAP."

He'd probably just send thoughts and prayers

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By *ondonFreakMan
over a year ago

London


"Not only does he have the maturity level & turn of phrase of a 9 year old, he's an enabler.. The fact he has thousands at rallys chanting "send them home" & he doesn't say a word against it, tells you everything you need to know about him & his cult followers.

What if one of those crazed zombies in the audience take it upon themselves to assassinate one of the women he referred to? What's he gonna say then?

He`s simply scum & he needs removing ASAP.

He'd probably just send thoughts and prayers "

He`d probably say there were good people on both sides..

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By *m3232Man
over a year ago

maidenhead

I recon we need to see the whole story to why he said go back home.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"He's not as much of a fool that he likes to make out

His faux pa's are deliberate and intended

He is a dangerous man "

I avoid the news. The whole thing sickens me.

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By *V-AliceTV/TS
over a year ago

Ayr


"I saw the crowd baying 'send her back' on the news and the Nuremberg rallies came to mind "

Yep. This. He's been told to row back from it, obviously - and he's made his feeble effort to disown it.

If he truly disapproved of his base chanting 'send her back', he had ample opportunity to tell them to stop - and, instead, as always, he lapped their approval up.

He's fascist. They're fascist. He and they are too stupid to realise how fascist they are.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's a country where you have cops executing people on camera and walking free, it wouldn't shock me if the changed the constitution and he ran his term to the grave."

Really?! Cops executing people and walking free?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's a country where you have cops executing people on camera and walking free, it wouldn't shock me if the changed the constitution and he ran his term to the grave.

Really?! Cops executing people and walking free? "

Shooting of Daniel Shaver, I don't recommend watching the body cam footage.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *oncupiscence73Woman
over a year ago

South

Racist, misogynist, homo phobic, sex criminal .... nah he’s ‘just made unadvisable comments’

It shocks me still that anyone thinks he belongs anywhere other than prison tbh.... one day .. one day

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By *ondonFreakMan
over a year ago

London


"It's a country where you have cops executing people on camera and walking free, it wouldn't shock me if the changed the constitution and he ran his term to the grave.

Really?! Cops executing people and walking free? "

Theres been countless examples of that, especially in the last 5 years.

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By *oncupiscence73Woman
over a year ago

South

*inadvisable

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By *arlomaleMan
over a year ago

darlington


"Racist, misogynist, homo phobic, sex criminal .... nah he’s ‘just made unadvisable comments’

It shocks me still that anyone thinks he belongs anywhere other than prison tbh.... one day .. one day "
I thing good old George dub ya and his puppy tony Blair deserves to go to prison before trump

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By *icentiousCouple
over a year ago

Up on them there hills

Never met him, so couldn’t give you an option.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's a country where you have cops executing people on camera and walking free, it wouldn't shock me if the changed the constitution and he ran his term to the grave.

Really?! Cops executing people and walking free?

Theres been countless examples of that, especially in the last 5 years."

Not really, if you dig deeper than the headlines.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's a country where you have cops executing people on camera and walking free, it wouldn't shock me if the changed the constitution and he ran his term to the grave.

Really?! Cops executing people and walking free?

Shooting of Daniel Shaver, I don't recommend watching the body cam footage. "

Aqquited by a jury it seems.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's a country where you have cops executing people on camera and walking free, it wouldn't shock me if the changed the constitution and he ran his term to the grave.

Really?! Cops executing people and walking free?

Theres been countless examples of that, especially in the last 5 years.

Not really, if you dig deeper than the headlines. "
Headlines are one thing video evidence is another.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's a country where you have cops executing people on camera and walking free, it wouldn't shock me if the changed the constitution and he ran his term to the grave.

Really?! Cops executing people and walking free?

Shooting of Daniel Shaver, I don't recommend watching the body cam footage.

Aqquited by a jury it seems. "

That's how the 'justice' system 'works'

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By *arlomaleMan
over a year ago

darlington


"It's a country where you have cops executing people on camera and walking free, it wouldn't shock me if the changed the constitution and he ran his term to the grave.

Really?! Cops executing people and walking free?

Shooting of Daniel Shaver, I don't recommend watching the body cam footage.

Aqquited by a jury it seems. "
what happened to the cops that shot that Brazilian on the tube didn’t they walk free ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's a country where you have cops executing people on camera and walking free, it wouldn't shock me if the changed the constitution and he ran his term to the grave.

Really?! Cops executing people and walking free?

Theres been countless examples of that, especially in the last 5 years.

Not really, if you dig deeper than the headlines. Headlines are one thing video evidence is another."

As is trial by jury.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's a country where you have cops executing people on camera and walking free, it wouldn't shock me if the changed the constitution and he ran his term to the grave.

Really?! Cops executing people and walking free?

Theres been countless examples of that, especially in the last 5 years.

Not really, if you dig deeper than the headlines. Headlines are one thing video evidence is another.

As is trial by jury. "

I'm not quite sure what are you trying to convey?

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool


"I recon we need to see the whole story to why he said go back home. "

They are home

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I recon we need to see the whole story to why he said go back home.

They are home"

This, 3 of them are literally u.s. born citizens

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's a country where you have cops executing people on camera and walking free, it wouldn't shock me if the changed the constitution and he ran his term to the grave."

Yes I remember that a policeman of Somali origin shot some women to death. Was about a year ago if I remember correctly. I think she was a tourist that was attempting to report a crime.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's a country where you have cops executing people on camera and walking free, it wouldn't shock me if the changed the constitution and he ran his term to the grave."

I have a horrible feeling if he gets a second term one of his kids will run to carry on the dynasty.

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By *ondonFreakMan
over a year ago

London


"It's a country where you have cops executing people on camera and walking free, it wouldn't shock me if the changed the constitution and he ran his term to the grave.

Yes I remember that a policeman of Somali origin shot some women to death. Was about a year ago if I remember correctly. I think she was a tourist that was attempting to report a crime."

Mohamed Noor? He was convicted & imprisoned..

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"I recon we need to see the whole story to why he said go back home. "

Or look at this being yet another deflection tactic by him, this time as a close friend of his is up for being a paedophile..

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By *obbytupperMan
over a year ago

Menston near Ilkley


"I recon we need to see the whole story to why he said go back home.

Or look at this being yet another deflection tactic by him, this time as a close friend of his is up for being a paedophile..

"

You hit the nail directly on the head! Perhaps we might find out why one day?

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By *hetalkingstoveMan
over a year ago

London


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Crudely put , if a white person says something they are jumped and oustraciced immediately. However we are not so quick to call out those with similar views from religous,cultural or community inheritance, due to fear of antogonising this group, who would reverse allegations upon those who do call it out.

"

Do you have an example? That is, of someone getting away with Trump type views because people are afraid to antagonise a group they belong to?

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By *ondonFreakMan
over a year ago

London

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By *ondonFreakMan
over a year ago

London

There may be a degree of deflection, with the paedophile scandal, & coincidentally this "go back home" statement happened on the same day as the ICE raids started..

It is irrelevant what was said beforehand though, as has been pointed out, 3 of the 4 women referred to are American born, & all are American citizens, they were targeted specifically for racist reasons, & that's the whole point.

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By *m3232Man
over a year ago

maidenhead


"I recon we need to see the whole story to why he said go back home.

They are home"

May be they where preaching about there families birth home and how it is or problems it has. Two sides to every story or fake news as he likes to call it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I recon we need to see the whole story to why he said go back home.

They are home

May be they where preaching about there families birth home and how it is or problems it has. Two sides to every story or fake news as he likes to call it. "

Preaching about their families birth home? I wager 90%+ of the U.S. are immigrant descendants.

There is no other side to a story when the person himself has literally send the message. It wasn't no news outlet it was trump himself.

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By *crumdiddlyumptiousMan
over a year ago

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"There may be a degree of deflection, with the paedophile scandal, & coincidentally this "go back home" statement happened on the same day as the ICE raids started..

It is irrelevant what was said beforehand though, as has been pointed out, 3 of the 4 women referred to are American born, & all are American citizens, they were targeted specifically for racist reasons, & that's the whole point."

I agree that his comments was racist and he was probably playing up to a lot of his voters, He could of said leave if you don't like it here instead of go home and it wouldn't of been a issue,

But if the people who are challenging him was 4 white Men I'm sure he would of found another way of insulting them as well

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By *m3232Man
over a year ago

maidenhead


"I recon we need to see the whole story to why he said go back home.

They are home

May be they where preaching about there families birth home and how it is or problems it has. Two sides to every story or fake news as he likes to call it.

Preaching about their families birth home? I wager 90%+ of the U.S. are immigrant descendants.

There is no other side to a story when the person himself has literally send the message. It wasn't no news outlet it was trump himself."

And he may have been replying to comments they have made pre.

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool


"I recon we need to see the whole story to why he said go back home.

They are home

May be they where preaching about there families birth home and how it is or problems it has. Two sides to every story or fake news as he likes to call it. "

Well yano, I think Holland can be a pretty cool place but I'd still be pretty upset if I was told the UK wasn't my home and made to feel unwelcome in the country I was born in just for having Dutch grandparents and actually liking the country.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's a country where you have cops executing people on camera and walking free, it wouldn't shock me if the changed the constitution and he ran his term to the grave.

Really?! Cops executing people and walking free?

Shooting of Daniel Shaver, I don't recommend watching the body cam footage. "

He didn't execute him. He overeacted, panicked and fucked up, brought on by his shit drills.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's a country where you have cops executing people on camera and walking free, it wouldn't shock me if the changed the constitution and he ran his term to the grave.

Really?! Cops executing people and walking free?

Shooting of Daniel Shaver, I don't recommend watching the body cam footage.

Aqquited by a jury it seems. what happened to the cops that shot that Brazilian on the tube didn’t they walk free ?"

They did what they were trained to do. Operation Kratos was a shoot to kill tactic. They were just given the wrong target because of poor surveillance intell and a shit decision from the commander who is now the Commissioner of the Met!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's a country where you have cops executing people on camera and walking free, it wouldn't shock me if the changed the constitution and he ran his term to the grave.

Really?! Cops executing people and walking free?

Shooting of Daniel Shaver, I don't recommend watching the body cam footage.

He didn't execute him. He overeacted, panicked and fucked up, brought on by his shit drills."

There was 5 police officers there all armed and armored. He panicked pointing a gun at a crying man crawling on the floor? You must be fucking delusional to believe that.

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By *terobs6869Man
over a year ago

Llandudno

If the lady from Somalia was a white man born in Britain he wouldn't tell him to go back where he came from. He said it because they are women from ethnic minorities. Fact. End of debate.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"I think you are a Trump admirer, just from your post.

I'm in the group that gets told to 'Go back home' - it's so regular now that this isn't opening up a debate it's enabling people to actively, physically hate and abuse their fellow citizens.

I'm out of this 'debate' now.

"

i think most people of colour at some point have had "go home/go back to....." pointed at them at some point

i just find it funny when white people try to defend him by saying, he didn't tell them where to go specifically...

"back" or "home" was too general apparently....

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By *partharmonyCouple
over a year ago

Ruislip

Trump is using racism to stir up his base. He tweeted a nonsense tweet about four women, three of which were born and raised in the US. The one that wasn't was the one he targeted at the rally. He stood back and allowed the audience to chant that she should be sent back. He is using racism as a political device. It's disgusting.

The stupid thing is Trump himself is only second-generation American. All the time he whinged through Obama's presidency I didn't see him take the option of going back to where his grandparents' came from.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"It's a country where you have cops executing people on camera and walking free, it wouldn't shock me if the changed the constitution and he ran his term to the grave.

Really?! Cops executing people and walking free?

Shooting of Daniel Shaver, I don't recommend watching the body cam footage. "

i could mention different names...

for example "eric garner"...

crime... selling loose cigarettes... didn't resist in any way... taken down by 5 cops, kept in an illegal hold across his neck... said "i can't breathe" 13 times

and we know all this because someone shot it on a mobile phone...

5th anniversary yesterday... decided not to charge any of the cops.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Racist?...Don't know.

Facist?...Don't know.

Spunk Trumpet?..Yes 100%

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think trump is a idiot but he's also played his game to the tee. The ultimate troll fisherman in a suit that throws his hooks and everybody bites. He has built a image of himself where he can say the risque things that most want to say but can't. It's trump the daft idiot but yet it's still heard and he gets away with it for those reasons. Some see it as a clown but trust me it's all calculated and he says what he wants. Trys to do what he wants and he gets away with it as it's the clown trump card x

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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge

lets not forget our very own PM had vans touring the poorer parts of london with the exact same message when she was home secratery

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's a country where you have cops executing people on camera and walking free, it wouldn't shock me if the changed the constitution and he ran his term to the grave.

Really?! Cops executing people and walking free?

Shooting of Daniel Shaver, I don't recommend watching the body cam footage.

He didn't execute him. He overeacted, panicked and fucked up, brought on by his shit drills.

There was 5 police officers there all armed and armored. He panicked pointing a gun at a crying man crawling on the floor? You must be fucking delusional to believe that."

I agree that he was in the wrong and should have been found guilty for his recklessness. To say he executed him means he always intended to kill him regardless of whether the man complied or not. How can you possibly know what was in his mind? He shot when the man appeared to reach for his waistband, so say in the belief he had a concealed weapon. The officer was not in control of himself and aggravated the situation. He fucked up.

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East


"lets not forget our very own PM had vans touring the poorer parts of london with the exact same message when she was home secratery "

There is a difference.

May was trying to remove illegal immigrants.

Trump is trying to remove US citizens.

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East


"

The stupid thing is Trump himself is only second-generation American. All the time he whinged through Obama's presidency I didn't see him take the option of going back to where his grandparents' came from."

He spent most of Obama's presidency alleging he was born in Africa - he was not - and therefore illegitimate as president. To say he despised Obama would be an understatement.

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By *retty GoodMan
over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"I think you are a Trump admirer, just from your post.

I'm in the group that gets told to 'Go back home' - it's so regular now that this isn't opening up a debate it's enabling people to actively, physically hate and abuse their fellow citizens.

I'm out of this 'debate' now.

i think most people of colour at some point have had "go home/go back to....." pointed at them at some point

i just find it funny when white people try to defend him by saying, he didn't tell them where to go specifically...

"back" or "home" was too general apparently...."

Didn’t the tweet also ask them to come back ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's a country where you have cops executing people on camera and walking free, it wouldn't shock me if the changed the constitution and he ran his term to the grave.

Really?! Cops executing people and walking free?

Shooting of Daniel Shaver, I don't recommend watching the body cam footage.

He didn't execute him. He overeacted, panicked and fucked up, brought on by his shit drills.

There was 5 police officers there all armed and armored. He panicked pointing a gun at a crying man crawling on the floor? You must be fucking delusional to believe that.

I agree that he was in the wrong and should have been found guilty for his recklessness. To say he executed him means he always intended to kill him regardless of whether the man complied or not. How can you possibly know what was in his mind? He shot when the man appeared to reach for his waistband, so say in the belief he had a concealed weapon. The officer was not in control of himself and aggravated the

situation. He fucked up."
I guess we can both believe one thing or another. I have zero doubts, that the intent was to kill. He first had to exit the room, where he would be potentially most dangerous at to handle. He was then shouted orders for several minutes whilst kneeling on the floor with his hands in the air. There was every single chance there to deescalate the situation and take him into custody. He was held at gunpoint by 6 officers, their tone of voice in the video shows no sign wanting to handle the situation calmly. To assume he still had a rifle or even a pistol at the waistband of his shorts after all he went through and 6 officers didn't notice is absolute bullshit. To add to it, he shot him 5 times. He had engraved words "you're fucked" and "come take them" to his police issued fire arm.

The officer stated the victim was trying to gain a shooting advantage by crawling towards them...which he was ordered to do by the officers who said he will get shot if he doesn't comply.

Sorry but to think it was a mistake and accident is a complete bollocks

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Simply put, Trump is a cunt.

It really is very simple, that word embodies all the fucked up shit he says and does.

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By *uciyassMan
over a year ago

sheffield

Arsehole

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Our country has problem let's blame everyone else but ourselves

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The one thing he is good at, is appealing to his target audience.

Everyone laughed when he decided to stand for the Presidency, yet by careful manipulation and promising what he could, he got into the White House.

If he gets re-elected, it will be either because his voters see him as a more viable option than whoever stands against him, or because voters feel he has improved their lives in some way.

I am not a Trump supporter in any way. If he had used the money he inherited by chucking it into a high interest account and spent the last 20 years finger painting, he'd be richer than he is now.

I was in the USA during last year mid-terms. The TV ads were shocking and campaign ads were broadcast that you couldn't get away with over here. But they tap into the American Psyche and hit the right nerves.

He's out of order, but so used to doing whatever he wants, he feels invincible.

I do wish I had paid attention to the Episode of the Simpsons where they predicted he would be president. A tenner on that would have been a very lucrative return.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's a country where you have cops executing people on camera and walking free, it wouldn't shock me if the changed the constitution and he ran his term to the grave.

Really?! Cops executing people and walking free?

Shooting of Daniel Shaver, I don't recommend watching the body cam footage.

He didn't execute him. He overeacted, panicked and fucked up, brought on by his shit drills.

There was 5 police officers there all armed and armored. He panicked pointing a gun at a crying man crawling on the floor? You must be fucking delusional to believe that.

I agree that he was in the wrong and should have been found guilty for his recklessness. To say he executed him means he always intended to kill him regardless of whether the man complied or not. How can you possibly know what was in his mind? He shot when the man appeared to reach for his waistband, so say in the belief he had a concealed weapon. The officer was not in control of himself and aggravated the

situation. He fucked up. I guess we can both believe one thing or another. I have zero doubts, that the intent was to kill. He first had to exit the room, where he would be potentially most dangerous at to handle. He was then shouted orders for several minutes whilst kneeling on the floor with his hands in the air. There was every single chance there to deescalate the situation and take him into custody. He was held at gunpoint by 6 officers, their tone of voice in the video shows no sign wanting to handle the situation calmly. To assume he still had a rifle or even a pistol at the waistband of his shorts after all he went through and 6 officers didn't notice is absolute bullshit. To add to it, he shot him 5 times. He had engraved words "you're fucked" and "come take them" to his police issued fire arm.

The officer stated the victim was trying to gain a shooting advantage by crawling towards them...which he was ordered to do by the officers who said he will get shot if he doesn't comply.

Sorry but to think it was a mistake and accident is a complete bollocks"

Then why didn't he just shoot him as soon as he saw him? Why all the hands up kneel down crawl towards me palaver?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's a country where you have cops executing people on camera and walking free, it wouldn't shock me if the changed the constitution and he ran his term to the grave.

Really?! Cops executing people and walking free?

Shooting of Daniel Shaver, I don't recommend watching the body cam footage.

He didn't execute him. He overeacted, panicked and fucked up, brought on by his shit drills.

There was 5 police officers there all armed and armored. He panicked pointing a gun at a crying man crawling on the floor? You must be fucking delusional to believe that.

I agree that he was in the wrong and should have been found guilty for his recklessness. To say he executed him means he always intended to kill him regardless of whether the man complied or not. How can you possibly know what was in his mind? He shot when the man appeared to reach for his waistband, so say in the belief he had a concealed weapon. The officer was not in control of himself and aggravated the

situation. He fucked up. I guess we can both believe one thing or another. I have zero doubts, that the intent was to kill. He first had to exit the room, where he would be potentially most dangerous at to handle. He was then shouted orders for several minutes whilst kneeling on the floor with his hands in the air. There was every single chance there to deescalate the situation and take him into custody. He was held at gunpoint by 6 officers, their tone of voice in the video shows no sign wanting to handle the situation calmly. To assume he still had a rifle or even a pistol at the waistband of his shorts after all he went through and 6 officers didn't notice is absolute bullshit. To add to it, he shot him 5 times. He had engraved words "you're fucked" and "come take them" to his police issued fire arm.

The officer stated the victim was trying to gain a shooting advantage by crawling towards them...which he was ordered to do by the officers who said he will get shot if he doesn't comply.

Sorry but to think it was a mistake and accident is a complete bollocks

Then why didn't he just shoot him as soon as he saw him? Why all the hands up kneel down crawl towards me palaver?"

Sense of power over another human being? I how no idea how psychopath brains work.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I like, Donald. Trump. He speaks the truth.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I like, Donald. Trump. He speaks the truth. "

Enough people do, hence he’s the POTUS. Let’s see if he secures a second term. Think he will.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I like, Donald. Trump. He speaks the truth. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think trump says a lot of things the wrong way, I think he says a lot of things he shouldn’t.

In this instance I think a lot of people have taken a tweet the wrong way.

He probably could’ve handled the chanting crowd a little better, rather than standing for 13 seconds looking proud as punch.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think trump says a lot of things the wrong way, I think he says a lot of things he shouldn’t.

In this instance I think a lot of people have taken a tweet the wrong way.

He probably could’ve handled the chanting crowd a little better, rather than standing for 13 seconds looking proud as punch. "

It was sickening to watch.

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By *hetalkingstoveMan
over a year ago

London


"

In this instance I think a lot of people have taken a tweet the wrong way. "

You're insanely naive if that's really what you think.

The message of his tweets was loud and clear. His supporters heard it - 'send her back!'.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Moron??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think trump says a lot of things the wrong way, I think he says a lot of things he shouldn’t.

In this instance I think a lot of people have taken a tweet the wrong way.

He probably could’ve handled the chanting crowd a little better, rather than standing for 13 seconds looking proud as punch.

It was sickening to watch. "

I quite agree with you Lola

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By *ifferent69 OP   Man
over a year ago

BRIGHTON, UK


"He's not as much of a fool that he likes to make out

His faux pa's are deliberate and intended

He is a dangerous man "

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By *ifferent69 OP   Man
over a year ago

BRIGHTON, UK


"It's a country where you have cops executing people on camera and walking free, it wouldn't shock me if the changed the constitution and he ran his term to the grave.

I have a horrible feeling if he gets a second term one of his kids will run to carry on the dynasty. "

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By *ruman77Man
over a year ago

London

We probably aren't so quick to call out others for their racial intolerance, apart from perhaps Israel, but even legitimate criticising of the Israel government/army is being deemed as racist, with Trump's approval.

Trump is definitely legitimising racist behaviour and there has been a rise in hate crimes since his inauguration. He should be impeached for what he said about the congresswoman.

AOC for President!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

He is a racist toss pot and will be made an example of once he has done his damage which the string pullers above him are happy letting him get away with because it benefits them and he is too obnoxious to know otherwise.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I saw the crowd baying 'send her back' on the news and the Nuremberg rallies came to mind "

Terrifying, isn't it? I find it worrying that it has gotten this far

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By *retty GoodMan
over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"We probably aren't so quick to call out others for their racial intolerance, apart from perhaps Israel, but even legitimate criticising of the Israel government/army is being deemed as racist, with Trump's approval.

Trump is definitely legitimising racist behaviour and there has been a rise in hate crimes since his inauguration. He should be impeached for what he said about the congresswoman.

AOC for President!!"

Lol AOC for president, brilliant lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Since he’s been president, the U.S economy is stronger then it’s been for years, and unemployment is at an all time low. Whether you like him or not, he does what he says he’s going to do and he’s been a successful president for the U.S.

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By *retty GoodMan
over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"Since he’s been president, the U.S economy is stronger then it’s been for years, and unemployment is at an all time low. Whether you like him or not, he does what he says he’s going to do and he’s been a successful president for the U.S."

O my god mate you can’t say that

Get ready for the lefties backlash

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Since he’s been president, the U.S economy is stronger then it’s been for years, and unemployment is at an all time low. Whether you like him or not, he does what he says he’s going to do and he’s been a successful president for the U.S.

O my god mate you can’t say that

Get ready for the lefties backlash "

Not my words. Google it.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"However we are not so quick to call out those with similar views from religous,cultural or community inheritance, due to fear of antogonising this group, who would reverse allegations upon those who do call it out.

"

Who would you like to call out? What have they done or said?

"

what is 'community inheritance' ?

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By *isaB45Woman
over a year ago

Fabville

The man is a wanker.

Let's move this thread to the politics forum...

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By *partharmonyCouple
over a year ago

Ruislip


"Since he’s been president, the U.S economy is stronger then it’s been for years, and unemployment is at an all time low. Whether you like him or not, he does what he says he’s going to do and he’s been a successful president for the U.S."

That doesn't actually mean he is responsible for the growth. This particular period of growth started in the Obama administration. Trump may not have caused it, he just may not have changed things in a way that would cause it to stop.

To make that point convincingly you would need to say what he has actually done that has made it happen and preferably contrast it with what the opposition would have done that would have caused it to stall.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"I think you are a Trump admirer, just from your post.

I'm in the group that gets told to 'Go back home' - it's so regular now that this isn't opening up a debate it's enabling people to actively, physically hate and abuse their fellow citizens.

I'm out of this 'debate' now.

i think most people of colour at some point have had "go home/go back to....." pointed at them at some point

i just find it funny when white people try to defend him by saying, he didn't tell them where to go specifically...

"back" or "home" was too general apparently...."

Is it the idea you find 'funny' or just the idea when 'white' people say it ? Is it only 'white' people saying it ?

You could have made your point about Trumps defenders without making it racial.

Practise and preaching / practise and preaching

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just an idiot.

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By *lanemikeMan
over a year ago

Bolton


"He’s the big boss man he can say what he likes tbh nobody really takes him seriously I don’t think even as mad as the yanks are they won’t give him another term "

Do not be so sure...... I would put some money on it that he will be elected for a second term.....

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By *ruman77Man
over a year ago

London

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By *ruman77Man
over a year ago

London


"Since he’s been president, the U.S economy is stronger then it’s been for years, and unemployment is at an all time low. Whether you like him or not, he does what he says he’s going to do and he’s been a successful president for the U.S."

Shootings are on the up too lol.

I'm no economist so can't really comment, but if you slap tariffs on most items coming into the country to encourage people to buy American, I'm guessing that would contribute to a boost the economy.

Statistically employment figures may have risen but this will include zero hour contracts and forced work in return for welfare. There is still rising poverty with people struggling to live on ultra low wages. It's a wonder some people don't get depressed and decide to pick up a gun and go....... oh wait!

Time will have to tell on how good a president is.

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