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" Britains highest demand ever for foodbanks(according to Trussell Trust foodbanks).Is this the "Country I love" Teresa May was crying over.Whats going on,was originally predominantly helping homeless people..now working families.." wages have gone down, cheap foreign labour, cost of living going up, getting a job a nightmare, these are the main contributors it's going to get worse I'm seeing young couples on the street, drinking, chemical abuse etc  | |||
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" Because we have a whole army of "working poor", who have their shit wages propped up by benefits. The businesses and companies they work for should be paying a decent wage. " Sadly there's also many people like me who get 'a decent wage' and no help but find themselves stuck. However it's ok as I'm a single parent, we aren't meant to do well in this country... | |||
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"I am completely baffled by the state of politics in this country at the moment. The system is set up so that the super rich get richer at the expense of everyone else. And somehow vast numbers of ordinary working people are voting for it. Something is very wrong when nurses have to rely on food banks to feed themselves and their children. " Because the working poor/working class don't see themselves as such. They think as long as they've got a big TV and get a holiday abroad then they're ok...they can't see they're being shafted by the rich. | |||
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"I am completely baffled by the state of politics in this country at the moment. The system is set up so that the super rich get richer at the expense of everyone else. And somehow vast numbers of ordinary working people are voting for it. Something is very wrong when nurses have to rely on food banks to feed themselves and their children. " This. How can the working class keep voting in a tory government with stated aims of lowering the tax for the rich whilst cutting benefits and services to the poorest in society. Get google, Amazon et all to pay the taxes the owe and our national debt is wiped out without cuts and austerity measures. The Tories biggest weapon is voter apathy. Get out and vote them out of office | |||
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"Undoubtedly, there are many people having a hard time, trying to find money for essentials, like Smart phones, ipads, xboxes, Sky tv, etc. They have little money for luxuries like bread and milk. Also, how many people abuse them, because they are free, and think they have a right to anything and everything that's free and available. Jesus wept. " | |||
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"Undoubtedly, there are many people having a hard time, trying to find money for essentials, like Smart phones, ipads, xboxes, Sky tv, etc. They have little money for luxuries like bread and milk. Also, how many people abuse them, because they are free, and think they have a right to anything and everything that's free and available. " In order to just look for work you need access to the internet and a laptop or whatever it maybe. So yes I agree that some things are luxuries, others but others a necessity. | |||
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" Because we have a whole army of "working poor", who have their shit wages propped up by benefits. The businesses and companies they work for should be paying a decent wage. " This many times over.
Unfortunately employment legislation is just the type of ‘red tape’ we voted to be free from after Br*x*t, so stand by for it to get worse. | |||
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"Undoubtedly, there are many people having a hard time, trying to find money for essentials, like Smart phones, ipads, xboxes, Sky tv, etc. They have little money for luxuries like bread and milk. Also, how many people abuse them, because they are free, and think they have a right to anything and everything that's free and available. " The person receiving three days worth of food someone else has chosen for them doesn't decide if they can access it. Their doctor, place of education, social worker or other agency will have issued them with a voucher because they have assessed that they're in need. I'm sure one or two people abuse the system but the vast majority don't. Also you can only access the food bank a certain number of times in a six month period, I think it's three. Just two examples I have first hand knowledge of. A 16 year old who hadn't eaten for two days because their alcoholic parents had spent all the household money on food. Their place of education gave them a food Bank voucher. A young guy with a wife and baby who was self employed, had an accident and couldn't work for six weeks. The health visitor gave him a voucher after discovering there was neither food nor money in the house. | |||
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" Britains highest demand ever for foodbanks(according to Trussell Trust foodbanks).Is this the "Country I love" Teresa May was crying over.Whats going on,was originally predominantly helping homeless people..now working families.." I don't know the exact cause but all the time the poor are demonised and the voting public think it's 'all their own fault's it will continue is part of the reason and no credible alternative to a conservative government is another. | |||
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"Undoubtedly, there are many people having a hard time, trying to find money for essentials, like Smart phones, ipads, xboxes, Sky tv, etc. They have little money for luxuries like bread and milk. Also, how many people abuse them, because they are free, and think they have a right to anything and everything that's free and available. The person receiving three days worth of food someone else has chosen for them doesn't decide if they can access it. Their doctor, place of education, social worker or other agency will have issued them with a voucher because they have assessed that they're in need. I'm sure one or two people abuse the system but the vast majority don't. Also you can only access the food bank a certain number of times in a six month period, I think it's three. Just two examples I have first hand knowledge of. A 16 year old who hadn't eaten for two days because their alcoholic parents had spent all the household money on food. Their place of education gave them a food Bank voucher. A young guy with a wife and baby who was self employed, had an accident and couldn't work for six weeks. The health visitor gave him a voucher after discovering there was neither food nor money in the house." *Household money on drink I mean. | |||
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"So glad I dont live, work and pay tax to the UK government to pay for all that stuff. " And im glad I don't live and work in a country where if I turn up at hospital severely I'll they ask to see my insurance document first then turn me away because I'm too poor to afford it so I can go die in the street. | |||
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"So glad I dont live, work and pay tax to the UK government to pay for all that stuff. " I'm glad I do. However the UK government doesn't fund foodbanks | |||
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"Sadly, it's difficult to differentiate between the deserving and those who will always take free stuff." That's why vouchers are issued by places like schools, colleges, doctors etc. But a hungry person is a hungry person and I don't think we're at the stage yet where we deny food to people because they don't deserve it | |||
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"So glad I dont live, work and pay tax to the UK government to pay for all that stuff. I'm glad I do. However the UK government doesn't fund foodbanks" well said.it seems" go to a foodbank "are now the government's "wash our hands of it",Universal credit fiasco mantra | |||
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"Sadly, it's difficult to differentiate between the deserving and those who will always take free stuff." You can't just rock up to a food bank and help yourself. You need to be referred and have a voucher. The food bank I volunteered at then made sure people were taking a balanced selection of food, not just all the biscuits or the cereal for example. It kind of sticks in my throat that the big supermarkets have collection points for food banks so it's a win win for them, we spend our money to buy their food and donate it and they look good as they are doing something for "charity" ( and no doubt get a tax perk for it somewhere along the way) | |||
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"So glad I dont live, work and pay tax to the UK government to pay for all that stuff. I'm glad I do. However the UK government doesn't fund foodbanks" | |||
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"Life has become to easy for some as they don’t want to work hard or improve themselves. Go back 60 or so years and look at the difference to then you had to work hard. Why should the rich be blamed by some they have made there money they have worked hard or been clever enough to make money. There is no luck in anything. " | |||
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"Life has become to easy for some as they don’t want to work hard or improve themselves. Go back 60 or so years and look at the difference to then you had to work hard. Why should the rich be blamed by some they have made there money they have worked hard or been clever enough to make money. There is no luck in anything. " | |||
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"Life has become to easy for some as they don’t want to work hard or improve themselves. Go back 60 or so years and look at the difference to then you had to work hard. Why should the rich be blamed by some they have made there money they have worked hard or been clever enough to make money. There is no luck in anything. " Quite often the rich have made their money by exploiting those who have worked hard for them | |||
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"Life has become to easy for some as they don’t want to work hard or improve themselves. Go back 60 or so years and look at the difference to then you had to work hard. Why should the rich be blamed by some they have made there money they have worked hard or been clever enough to make money. There is no luck in anything. Quite often the rich have made their money by exploiting those who have worked hard for them " And sometimes the rich work 24/7 and take big personal and financial risks to build businesses and create employment. | |||
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"Life has become to easy for some as they don’t want to work hard or improve themselves. Go back 60 or so years and look at the difference to then you had to work hard. Why should the rich be blamed by some they have made there money they have worked hard or been clever enough to make money. There is no luck in anything. Quite often the rich have made their money by exploiting those who have worked hard for them " That’s the way it is if you think it’s unfair become a boss and do the same. As you have the same for workers being lazy not keeping time and sometimes stealing from bosses. This is a sad fact also. | |||
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"There is no luck in anything. "The harder I work the luckier I get.. | |||
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"Life has become to easy for some as they don’t want to work hard or improve themselves. Go back 60 or so years and look at the difference to then you had to work hard. Why should the rich be blamed by some they have made there money they have worked hard or been clever enough to make money. There is no luck in anything. Quite often the rich have made their money by exploiting those who have worked hard for them And sometimes the rich work 24/7 and take big personal and financial risks to build businesses and create employment. " 100% correct. Working for yourself and employing people is the easiest way to make money but it’s also the easiest way to loose it. | |||
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"Life has become to easy for some as they don’t want to work hard or improve themselves. Go back 60 or so years and look at the difference to then you had to work hard. Why should the rich be blamed by some they have made there money they have worked hard or been clever enough to make money. There is no luck in anything.
"If you think it's fun living on benefits. That's its a pleasurable experience should give it a try. Theres always someone who comes up with this rubbish every time a discussion on benefits comes up | |||
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"Life has become to easy for some as they don’t want to work hard or improve themselves. Go back 60 or so years and look at the difference to then you had to work hard. Why should the rich be blamed by some they have made there money they have worked hard or been clever enough to make money. There is no luck in anything. Quite often the rich have made their money by exploiting those who have worked hard for them That’s the way it is if you think it’s unfair become a boss and do the same. As you have the same for workers being lazy not keeping time and sometimes stealing from bosses. This is a sad fact also. " Or how about we all band together a bit more against the exploitation | |||
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"Life has become to easy for some as they don’t want to work hard or improve themselves. Go back 60 or so years and look at the difference to then you had to work hard. Why should the rich be blamed by some they have made there money they have worked hard or been clever enough to make money. There is no luck in anything.
If you think it's fun living on benefits. That's its a pleasurable experience should give it a try. Theres always someone who comes up with this rubbish every time a discussion on benefits comes up "I almost had to give it a try. I’m not rich by any means but I’m comfortable and what totally gets me is the “you’re lucky” you have a nice house, a nice car, holidays etc. It is absolutely nothing do with luck whatsoever! I had to give up my job as I had a child with special needs, I could have claimed loads but I didn’t and the blood sweat and literal tears i put in to try and start a business had nothing to do with luck! My life hasn’t been at all lucky so when someone tells me I’m lucky forgive me for getting angry about it. There are lots of people who take the piss and claim for everything and have never done a days work in their lives. And that, I’m afraid, is a fact. I don’t deny that people need help through no fault of their own and that’s where the money should be going. This isn’t a rant I just feel really strongly about the benefit system in this country. | |||
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"Life has become to easy for some as they don’t want to work hard or improve themselves. Go back 60 or so years and look at the difference to then you had to work hard. Why should the rich be blamed by some they have made there money they have worked hard or been clever enough to make money. There is no luck in anything.
If you think it's fun living on benefits. That's its a pleasurable experience should give it a try. Theres always someone who comes up with this rubbish every time a discussion on benefits comes up "Where did I say it was fun. Life is not fun you have to work harder or smarter than the next person to succeed or they will take away what you could of. | |||
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"Life has become to easy for some as they don’t want to work hard or improve themselves. Go back 60 or so years and look at the difference to then you had to work hard. Why should the rich be blamed by some they have made there money they have worked hard or been clever enough to make money. There is no luck in anything.
If you think it's fun living on benefits. That's its a pleasurable experience should give it a try. Theres always someone who comes up with this rubbish every time a discussion on benefits comes up
I almost had to give it a try. I’m not rich by any means but I’m comfortable and what totally gets me is the “you’re lucky” you have a nice house, a nice car, holidays etc. It is absolutely nothing do with luck whatsoever! I had to give up my job as I had a child with special needs, I could have claimed loads but I didn’t and the blood sweat and literal tears i put in to try and start a business had nothing to do with luck! My life hasn’t been at all lucky so when someone tells me I’m lucky forgive me for getting angry about it. There are lots of people who take the piss and claim for everything and have never done a days work in their lives. And that, I’m afraid, is a fact. I don’t deny that people need help through no fault of their own and that’s where the money should be going. This isn’t a rant I just feel really strongly about the benefit system in this country. " | |||
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"Because a lot spend on beer cigs and takeaways "Exactly this - I work in food retail and see it EVERY day | |||
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"Universal Credit High taxes Brexit scaremongering Parliament NHS Greggs Tax Dodgers The Romans Those who are actually willing to take any job on to work Straight Guys Stella Ikea "“We didn’t start the fire it was always burnin since the earth was turnin.......” | |||
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"Because a lot spend on beer cigs and takeaways
Exactly this - I work in food retail and see it EVERY day"Something for noting. I now their is ones who really need it but most have designer gear on smoking 20 benson | |||
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"Universal Credit High taxes Brexit scaremongering Parliament NHS Greggs Tax Dodgers The Romans Those who are actually willing to take any job on to work Straight Guys Stella Ikea "Thread closed. This.. Although I enjoy Stella’s contributions | |||
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"It’s all of our faults. Yours and mine. It started when we all decided going to Tesco was better than shopping at the butchers, greengrocers or bakers. We started to put money in corporates hands instead of small shop owners. Saved us all a few pennies but cost loads their businesses. That thing you want that’s cheaper on the internet? Why is it cheaper? Because you’re not paying for so many peoples wages or taxation. The taxation governments are losing out on to amazon, eBay or whoever has to be recouped somehow. Thats either through cutting outgoings or pushing it onto personal taxation. It’s easy to blame the government, but we really did it to ourselves. " | |||
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"Here's me about 5 years ago, I'm the twat in the hat with a purple goatee and an AC/DC T-shirt on
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"Do you need a voucher from a health professional or agency worker or just turn up to get the free food. ? I have seen donation points and people can be very generous with their supplies. I have even seen, ' ye olde oak ham' and that is only a Christmas treat for most people. Do the homeless get food if they are out of the system and cannot get vouchers or have a kitchen to cook things like dried spaghetti?" They have a chat to the food bank staff about needs, they might get things like tinned foods that open easily and eat cold Tinned ham is not tasty  | |||
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"Tinned ham is not tasty "Mine at lunchtime was very tasty.....!!! | |||
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"Do you need a voucher from a health professional or agency worker or just turn up to get the free food. ? I have seen donation points and people can be very generous with their supplies. I have even seen, ' ye olde oak ham' and that is only a Christmas treat for most people. Do the homeless get food if they are out of the system and cannot get vouchers or have a kitchen to cook things like dried spaghetti?" . I'm led to believe the homeless can now get only 3 lots of food and then that's it., Not really geared for the homeless anymore.I think food banks tailor the parcels to suit ,if someone no means of cooking ,supply edible 'now' foods.many hardened homeless older people will not stay in hostels (to cook)through the fear of violence or theft which is another topic.perhaps someone who works in a food bank could enlighting us more regarding homeless | |||
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"Do you need a voucher from a health professional or agency worker or just turn up to get the free food. ? I have seen donation points and people can be very generous with their supplies. I have even seen, ' ye olde oak ham' and that is only a Christmas treat for most people. Do the homeless get food if they are out of the system and cannot get vouchers or have a kitchen to cook things like dried spaghetti?" I don't know what it's like where you live, but in Derby there are many places where you can get a free meal and some hand out clothing as well. During the winter months there are churches that open their doors and accommodate homeless people overnight and provide them with a hot meal as well | |||
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"It’s because the government are pile of poop, I’ve helped out in my local food bank loads as I’ve had to rely on them when times were rough in the past and you would be surprised at the amount of families who work come into food banks. The economy is getting worse this is 2019 and we are no better of than we were in in 1919 it wouldn’t surprise me if they brought back work houses to try and combat homelessness and jobless people coz there is hardly no jobs around and the ones that are the money Isn’t to good Mrscxxx " aww gawd dont give the tories that idea.it wouldn't surprise me that. | |||
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" Britains highest demand ever for foodbanks(according to Trussell Trust foodbanks).Is this the "Country I love" Teresa May was crying over.Whats going on,was originally predominantly helping homeless people..now working families.." The war on poverty became war on the poor the day people decided we needed a good dose of austerity. | |||
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"It’s because the government are pile of poop, I’ve helped out in my local food bank loads as I’ve had to rely on them when times were rough in the past and you would be surprised at the amount of families who work come into food banks. The economy is getting worse this is 2019 and we are no better of than we were in in 1919 it wouldn’t surprise me if they brought back work houses to try and combat homelessness and jobless people coz there is hardly no jobs around and the ones that are the money Isn’t to good Mrscxxx " The economy is on the up , unemployment at its lowest for years . You think it’s bad now then let’s hope Jeremy Corbyn and his labour shower new get in | |||
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"Undoubtedly, there are many people having a hard time, trying to find money for essentials, like Smart phones, ipads, xboxes, Sky tv, etc. They have little money for luxuries like bread and milk. Also, how many people abuse them, because they are free, and think they have a right to anything and everything that's free and available. " Sorry but this is a load of rubbish. I make a fair bit above minimum wage but me and my partner don't own a tv because we haven't managed to save up the money. I have a laptop I bought in 2012 and a smartphone I got on a fairly cheap contract 2 years ago and paid towards the phone at the time as I was living with my mum. My contract is up for renewal but I can't afford to pay more or pay towards a newer phone so I'm keeping the one I have. We have no tablets or games consoles (god knows how we would use one as we don't have a TV). If I sold my two year old smartphone or 6 year old laptop I would hardly get anything for them anyway. As I said, both me and my partner make a decent amount above minimum wage and we live in Liverpool where the cost of living is pretty low. We're far from struggling to eat but we can't afford luxuries like holidays or technology, etc so god knows how families trying to support children on minimum wage are coping or even single parents on decent wages. My mum is a hospital manager and she struggled a lot financially as a single parent when we were growing up even though my dad gave more than he was obligated to for child maintenance. I honestly don't know how she would have survived these days as things are far worse than they were 15 years ago. | |||
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"Undoubtedly, there are many people having a hard time, trying to find money for essentials, like Smart phones, ipads, xboxes, Sky tv, etc. They have little money for luxuries like bread and milk. Also, how many people abuse them, because they are free, and think they have a right to anything and everything that's free and available. Sorry but this is a load of rubbish. I make a fair bit above minimum wage but me and my partner don't own a tv because we haven't managed to save up the money. I have a laptop I bought in 2012 and a smartphone I got on a fairly cheap contract 2 years ago and paid towards the phone at the time as I was living with my mum. My contract is up for renewal but I can't afford to pay more or pay towards a newer phone so I'm keeping the one I have. We have no tablets or games consoles (god knows how we would use one as we don't have a TV). If I sold my two year old smartphone or 6 year old laptop I would hardly get anything for them anyway. As I said, both me and my partner make a decent amount above minimum wage and we live in Liverpool where the cost of living is pretty low. We're far from struggling to eat but we can't afford luxuries like holidays or technology, etc so god knows how families trying to support children on minimum wage are coping or even single parents on decent wages. My mum is a hospital manager and she struggled a lot financially as a single parent when we were growing up even though my dad gave more than he was obligated to for child maintenance. I honestly don't know how she would have survived these days as things are far worse than they were 15 years ago." I think a lot of people look at what's in front of them (although how do they know that people using a food bank have sky tv at home?) and don't take anything else into consideration. If you fall on hard times having previously earned fairly decent money you will possibly have a phone contract you can't get out of but will need anyway or how can you be contacted by employers if you've applied for a job? The same goes for an iPad, how are you going to search for jobs without a device to search on when libraries are being closed frequently? You can sell your x box etc for sure but how long is that money going to last? | |||
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"I have to say, I found myself simultaneously agreeing and disagreeing with some of the points made on this thread. I have personally met people who are on disability benefits and they simultaneously do something that completely goes against their specific disability, e.g. chain smoking/disabled to work because of my heart...so some people do milk the system. However, it’s absolute shite and nonsense to say that whatever money one has made is not down to luck. For example, if people who have been born here had instead been born in my birthplace, they could be working their arseholes off, day and night, and they would still not be able to even set up a small business. They most they could do, would be to get into debt with banks and loans and then lose everything after a few years. " Benefit fraudsters are a drop in the ocean in comparison to the money swindled out of the government elsewhere. It annoys me a little when that example is given. When our politicians and nations other multi millionaires use insider trading, old boys network, tax avoidance, etc. If you could claim back some of that cash, perhaps you could afford to get to the root causes of why they don't/won't/struggle to involved instead of free loading. Or we could tweak the system a bit.. tax automated industries and use the money to train more carers and pay them better money. So it actually makes sense for them to work a 12hr shift on their feet, 5 days out of 7. When for a few pounds less they could be sat on their arse doing nothing. Either way you look at it. There are two types of freeloader in this country. One type is a creation of the others greed. | |||
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"Rampant capitalism. You'll be in our shoes one day, or your children will be, rest assured. This is what you voted for.. Apparently. I've not had to use a Foodbank. I went hungry instead. " We didn’t have to use food banks because we had family who helped us out. I don't think food banks existed when we had a very bad period in our lives though. I think you probably have to have experienced hardship or worked with people who are going through it to understand. | |||
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"Do you need a voucher from a health professional or agency worker or just turn up to get the free food. ? I have seen donation points and people can be very generous with their supplies. I have even seen, ' ye olde oak ham' and that is only a Christmas treat for most people. Do the homeless get food if they are out of the system and cannot get vouchers or have a kitchen to cook things like dried spaghetti?" . If you are claiming benefits you can request a food bank slip from your job centre.If you are not claiming benefits you can still request a food bank slip.In both cases you are given enough food to last you 3-4 days and the food bank centre monitor how many food bank slips are issued to a person as generally you can use the food bank 3 times in a 6 month period. | |||
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"Do you need a voucher from a health professional or agency worker or just turn up to get the free food. ? I have seen donation points and people can be very generous with their supplies. I have even seen, ' ye olde oak ham' and that is only a Christmas treat for most people. Do the homeless get food if they are out of the system and cannot get vouchers or have a kitchen to cook things like dried spaghetti?" A lot of food banks ask for food that can be 'cooked' if you only have a kettle so pot noodles, that sort of thing and also for food that can just be eaten as it is. | |||
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"It’s because the government are pile of poop, I’ve helped out in my local food bank loads as I’ve had to rely on them when times were rough in the past and you would be surprised at the amount of families who work come into food banks. The economy is getting worse this is 2019 and we are no better of than we were in in 1919 it wouldn’t surprise me if they brought back work houses to try and combat homelessness and jobless people coz there is hardly no jobs around and the ones that are the money Isn’t to good Mrscxxx The economy is on the up , unemployment at its lowest for years . You think it’s bad now then let’s hope Jeremy Corbyn and his labour shower new get in " I’m pretty sure you meant to type never get in , and I couldn’t agree more . | |||
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"Do you need a voucher from a health professional or agency worker or just turn up to get the free food. ? I have seen donation points and people can be very generous with their supplies. I have even seen, ' ye olde oak ham' and that is only a Christmas treat for most people. Do the homeless get food if they are out of the system and cannot get vouchers or have a kitchen to cook things like dried spaghetti? A lot of food banks ask for food that can be 'cooked' if you only have a kettle so pot noodles, that sort of thing and also for food that can just be eaten as it is. " Exactly, the one I volunteer for will give street homeless people things like fresh and tinned fruit, cereal bars, tuna, tinned hotdogs and the like. And for people in B&B's or with limited or nor cooking facilities things like packet pasta and source, noodles, tinned soup ect. To be honest though it's not that often (maybe 10 a week) we get people in that situation as there is free hot cooked food provided every week day evening by charities in the city center. And the day center provides a hot lunch for £1. Its mainly familys that come through the door and increasingly working families. | |||
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