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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

He is one of the best ever drivers.. why is not appreciated more ..?

Or are they only appreciated when they retire..

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By *eady and Willing 9Man
over a year ago

Wherever the party is @

Bcz he's an arrogant little shit and a lot don't like him. Give me Schumacher,mansel,senna etc any day over him

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By *uzukiNo1Woman
over a year ago

Rhyl

He still looks 12 to me.....FFS why does he not age...

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By *ed-monkeyCouple
over a year ago

Hailsham


"Bcz he's an arrogant little shit and a lot don't like him. Give me Schumacher,mansel,senna etc any day over him "

Schumacher ... I can only win this by running the other guy off the road

Senna .. had an air of arrogance

Let's not forget Vettel ... height of arrogance who cannot race on traffic!!

Some say that in order to succeed in F1 .. you have display some self confidence or arrogance

He is equally humble recognising he is one part of the whole machine

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

He is awesome imo

Not arrogant at all

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Because he is not a privileged society brat.

He has got where he is with hard work and talent,

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By *heik yourwillyMan
over a year ago

shire


"Bcz he's an arrogant little shit and a lot don't like him. Give me Schumacher,mansel,senna etc any day over him

Schumacher ... I can only win this by running the other guy off the road

Senna .. had an air of arrogance

Let's not forget Vettel ... height of arrogance who cannot race on traffic!!

Some say that in order to succeed in F1 .. you have display some self confidence or arrogance

He is equally humble recognising he is one part of the whole machine"

Your only as good as the car under you

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By *igerstyle2k2Man
over a year ago

Oxfordshire

I read in an article that the reason may be that he doesn't do much outside of the sport to get people to appreciate him.

It's easy for F1 fans to appreciate him but if you don't like F1 then why would you appreciate him or his driving?

Another factor could be that he doesn't even live in England and only spends a few days of the year actually in the country. So, he's a British champion that doesn't live in the country. According to some, anyway.

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By *uzukiNo1Woman
over a year ago

Rhyl


"Bcz he's an arrogant little shit and a lot don't like him. Give me Schumacher,mansel,senna etc any day over him

Schumacher ... I can only win this by running the other guy off the road

Senna .. had an air of arrogance

Let's not forget Vettel ... height of arrogance who cannot race on traffic!!

Some say that in order to succeed in F1 .. you have display some self confidence or arrogance

He is equally humble recognising he is one part of the whole machine

Your only as good as the car under you"

Which is run mainly by a computer....and not even in the same country the car is...............get on a bike...

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"I read in an article that the reason may be that he doesn't do much outside of the sport to get people to appreciate him.

It's easy for F1 fans to appreciate him but if you don't like F1 then why would you appreciate him or his driving?

Another factor could be that he doesn't even live in England and only spends a few days of the year actually in the country. So, he's a British champion that doesn't live in the country. According to some, anyway."

Like Mo Farah..

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By *heik yourwillyMan
over a year ago

shire


"Bcz he's an arrogant little shit and a lot don't like him. Give me Schumacher,mansel,senna etc any day over him

Schumacher ... I can only win this by running the other guy off the road

Senna .. had an air of arrogance

Let's not forget Vettel ... height of arrogance who cannot race on traffic!!

Some say that in order to succeed in F1 .. you have display some self confidence or arrogance

He is equally humble recognising he is one part of the whole machine

Your only as good as the car under you

Which is run mainly by a computer....and not even in the same country the car is...............get on a bike..."

They wouldnt be able to pedal that far

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I read in an article that the reason may be that he doesn't do much outside of the sport to get people to appreciate him.

It's easy for F1 fans to appreciate him but if you don't like F1 then why would you appreciate him or his driving?

Another factor could be that he doesn't even live in England and only spends a few days of the year actually in the country. So, he's a British champion that doesn't live in the country. According to some, anyway."

A lot of the former and current drivers live in tax havens, just shows what they earn.

Whether that’s right or wrong that’s a different discussion but if there was a loop hole not to pay tax I’m sure a lot of people would jump through it

In recent interviews I think he’s mellowed. Recently he was asked how to succeed in F1 and he said stay in school. Only top 20 drivers in any year make it. And as a driver he needed his education. Maths helps him understand how to drive his car and the data given

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By *uzukiNo1Woman
over a year ago

Rhyl


"Bcz he's an arrogant little shit and a lot don't like him. Give me Schumacher,mansel,senna etc any day over him

Schumacher ... I can only win this by running the other guy off the road

Senna .. had an air of arrogance

Let's not forget Vettel ... height of arrogance who cannot race on traffic!!

Some say that in order to succeed in F1 .. you have display some self confidence or arrogance

He is equally humble recognising he is one part of the whole machine

Your only as good as the car under you

Which is run mainly by a computer....and not even in the same country the car is...............get on a bike...They wouldnt be able to pedal that far "

Titter

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

I am sure the aristocracy pay little tax.. but if a commoner does the same then they are outed.. I would reside in Monte Carlo if I had his money

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By *o_eye_deerMan
over a year ago

The South Near That London


"He is one of the best ever drivers.. why is not appreciated more ..?

Or are they only appreciated when they retire.."

He is appreciated greatly - an anonymous poll of team principals asked who was the one driver they would love to drive for them, Lewis was the no.1 pick, and in my opinion they are really the only people that matter - they do the hiring and firing!

And I think the fans certainly appreciated him yesterday.

As for people saying he’s arrogant etc. All competitive, successful sportsmen/women are! You need a certain ruthless to succeed!

Then the tax exile part - the government could quite easily solve that, don’t penalise people for being successful! Rather than trying bring those at the top down, help bring those from the bottom up! it’s just the politics of envy otherwise no matter what colour the people running the country are. How many people would voluntarily pay more tax than they (legally) are required to?

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe


"Bcz he's an arrogant little shit and a lot don't like him. Give me Schumacher,mansel,senna etc any day over him "

That so bizarre... I've always found him to be humble and realistic. Schumacher on the other hand was very arrogant

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By *o_eye_deerMan
over a year ago

The South Near That London

And by colour I meant tie/rosette political party I.E. blue/red/green etc. Nothing skin colour related! Before the pitchforks are sharpened

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By *retty GoodMan
over a year ago

Cardiff Bay

Tough one as undoubtedly an amazing driver but modern F1 seems heavily reliant on the the technology and the car

In the old days it was mainly down to driver skill on a more even playing field

A great of his era without doubt

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Bcz he's an arrogant little shit and a lot don't like him. Give me Schumacher,mansel,senna etc any day over him

That so bizarre... I've always found him to be humble and realistic. Schumacher on the other hand was very arrogant "

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/celebritynews/11734754/Wimbledon-2015-Controversy-over-A-list-celebrities-absent-from-Royal-Box.html

He's a bit of a d*ck to be fair .

Im Kewis Hamilton, i dont need to follow protocol to get in the royal box at Wimpleton.

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By *iamondCougarWoman
over a year ago

Norfuck! / Lincolnshire


"Tough one as undoubtedly an amazing driver but modern F1 seems heavily reliant on the the technology and the car

"

Would he be such a success without that technology at his finger tips? I wonder ..

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By *musedforlifeMan
over a year ago

Scunthorpe


"Bcz he's an arrogant little shit and a lot don't like him. Give me Schumacher,mansel,senna etc any day over him

That so bizarre... I've always found him to be humble and realistic. Schumacher on the other hand was very arrogant "

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By *retty GoodMan
over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"Tough one as undoubtedly an amazing driver but modern F1 seems heavily reliant on the the technology and the car

Would he be such a success without that technology at his finger tips? I wonder .. "

Pretty certain he would be up there, but the best I’m not so sure

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By *hloevtTV/TS
over a year ago

norwich


"Bcz he's an arrogant little shit and a lot don't like him. Give me Schumacher,mansel,senna etc any day over him

Schumacher ... I can only win this by running the other guy off the road

Senna .. had an air of arrogance

Let's not forget Vettel ... height of arrogance who cannot race on traffic!!

Some say that in order to succeed in F1 .. you have display some self confidence or arrogance

He is equally humble recognising he is one part of the whole machine

Your only as good as the car under you"

Everyone in the same car !!! Grosjean would still crash and kubica would still be last xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Tough one as undoubtedly an amazing driver but modern F1 seems heavily reliant on the the technology and the car

Would he be such a success without that technology at his finger tips? I wonder .. "

I’ve always wondered if you put the 20th on the grid in the pole car and the pole driver in the 20th car what would happen?

Also if you put someone like Bradley Wiggins on a Halfords special what would his 10 mile time be compared to the bike he had at sky?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Interesting that the technology thing is mentioned.

As I understand it. The cars are fairly unstable, have no ABS, no traction control, no braking assistance, no stability control.

The technology is making the cars ever faster, not easier to drive.

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By *ed-monkeyCouple
over a year ago

Hailsham


"Tough one as undoubtedly an amazing driver but modern F1 seems heavily reliant on the the technology and the car

Would he be such a success without that technology at his finger tips? I wonder .. "

I think the point is .. all the cars are built to specific rules... the talent comes from the teams ability to interpret the rules and for the driver to use and exploit the car he is given ... Hamilton is currently the best at this ... Vettel .. 4 world championships with the best car ... now ... useless

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By *o_eye_deerMan
over a year ago

The South Near That London


"Tough one as undoubtedly an amazing driver but modern F1 seems heavily reliant on the the technology and the car

In the old days it was mainly down to driver skill on a more even playing field

A great of his era without doubt "

But F1 has, and always should be the pinnacle of automotive engineering, the teams are actually hampered by the regulations, give them minimum restrictions and you would really would see some mind blowing racing cars.

It’s a team sport, the driver is just a small cog in a big machine; if you want a low(er) tech (spec) series watch Indy car racing.

And funnily enough it’s (nearly) always the best drivers that end up in the best cars

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By *AYENCouple
over a year ago

Lincolnshire

He's certainly appreciated by F1 fans, and I think he has humbled a lot as he's matured. The strength of mind he has is phenomenal.

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By *AYENCouple
over a year ago

Lincolnshire


"And funnily enough it’s (nearly) always the best drivers that end up in the best cars "

...and the best drivers also often end up in front of other drivers in the same car!

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By *assing Fancies xCouple
over a year ago

Sherwood Forest

Sod F1, moto gp is where its at lol BRING ON THE POWER!!!

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By *igjrvMan
over a year ago

blackwood

Why do people call him arrogant? He does so much for charity. He's constantly visiting sick children in hospital. He's always polite and curtious. And wishing people best wishes. Ok he love fashion and posing but 99% of all of us do. And what would the haters be like if they had his fame and fortune. I never see other drivers do as much to inspire.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"He's certainly appreciated by F1 fans, and I think he has humbled a lot as he's matured. The strength of mind he has is phenomenal.

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And he is a vegetarian ..

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford


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Im Kewis Hamilton, i dont need to follow protocol to get in the royal box at Wimpleton."

Bit like Megan Markle then..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think people resent he came from a working class family from Stevenage. Though Stevenage is unforgivable.

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By *arlomaleMan
over a year ago

darlington

maybe Lewis should act like them overpaid overpriced overrated premier league footballers but he doesn’t he’s never in the papers for drinking fights drugs so maybe people should give him a break

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"maybe Lewis should act like them overpaid overpriced overrated premier league footballers but he doesn’t he’s never in the papers for drinking fights drugs so maybe people should give him a break "

Overpaid? Hamilton earns more than they do and he spends less time earning it.

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By *tingly ByronMan
over a year ago

In a town Fab forgot


"I read in an article that the reason may be that he doesn't do much outside of the sport to get people to appreciate him.

It's easy for F1 fans to appreciate him but if you don't like F1 then why would you appreciate him or his driving?

Another factor could be that he doesn't even live in England and only spends a few days of the year actually in the country. So, he's a British champion that doesn't live in the country. According to some, anyway."

I read the same article. And agreed with it.....

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By *arlomaleMan
over a year ago

darlington


"maybe Lewis should act like them overpaid overpriced overrated premier league footballers but he doesn’t he’s never in the papers for drinking fights drugs so maybe people should give him a break

Overpaid? Hamilton earns more than they do and he spends less time earning it."

he’s putting his life on the line not poncing about on a pitch kicking a bag of wind about no comparison in footballers to f1 drivers fair point but he’s a good role model for kids unlike your greedy footballers who swear on tv constantly in the papers for misbehaving I know who I’d have my kids look up to and it certainly wouldn’t be a pogba or him who’s down tools at West Ham and went to China not all footballers are like that ronaldo messi etc etc they have a bit of class about them

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

I agree.. Lewis is class

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By *wizzlenipsMan
over a year ago

Newport


"Bcz he's an arrogant little shit and a lot don't like him. Give me Schumacher,mansel,senna etc any day over him

Schumacher ... I can only win this by running the other guy off the road

Senna .. had an air of arrogance

Let's not forget Vettel ... height of arrogance who cannot race on traffic!!

Some say that in order to succeed in F1 .. you have display some self confidence or arrogance

He is equally humble recognising he is one part of the whole machine

Your only as good as the car under you

Which is run mainly by a computer....and not even in the same country the car is...............get on a bike..."

Dream on if you think a MOtoGP bike isn't loaded with sensors and electronics. Launch control, different engine maps, gyroscopes, traction control to name but a few. Yes, the riders are fucking heroes but they get a lot of help.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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Another factor could be that he doesn't even live in England and only spends a few days of the year actually in the country. So, he's a British champion that doesn't live in the country. According to some, anyway."

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By *tephenBunChowMan
over a year ago

Haywards heath/Waterlooville

He has personality, compare him to the likes of Schumacher/vettel.

Hakkinen emotionless, but funny to some degree.

Hamilton is much more mature compared to his first world championship. Regardless of where he lives he's exciting to watch.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Tough one as undoubtedly an amazing driver but modern F1 seems heavily reliant on the the technology and the car

Would he be such a success without that technology at his finger tips? I wonder .. "

...and team orders

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By *ools and the brainCouple
over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

Honestly he must wake up in the morning in his multimillion pound mansion, dating super hot women, access to the most sophisticated racing equipment know to man, enough money to live a hundred lifetimes he must think.

"Where did it all go wrong?"

Really people we have a great British champion at the absolute pinnacle of success should be applauded not lambasted.

He is where he is due to his talent and hard work, he didn't suddenly get paid a shed load of money he done his time and why shouldn't he be a bit arrogant with it.

Why the hell not, fuck me he's been given a talent and he's making the most of it.

These guys work extremely hard to stay in top shape and can't afford to let themselves go these days they are as fit as most professional athletes.

Who gives a flying fuck where he lives he's winning and doing a bloody good job of it too.

Chapeau Lewis

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By *hekaiserMan
over a year ago

Glasgow


"He is one of the best ever drivers.. why is not appreciated more ..?

Or are they only appreciated when they retire.."

He is a bellend of epic proportions! A sore little loser...

During the McLaren years Button out drove him consistently and all Hamilton did was moan about it...even used the race card when the stewards handed him a grid penalty!!

Ferrari made a mess in 2017 and 2018...pretty much handed Hamilton the championship on a plate 2 years in a row.

Give any driver a car that is faster than the rest of the pack and he/she will win...its not rocket science

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Honestly he must wake up in the morning in his multimillion pound mansion, dating super hot women, access to the most sophisticated racing equipment know to man, enough money to live a hundred lifetimes he must think.

"Where did it all go wrong?"

Really people we have a great British champion at the absolute pinnacle of success should be applauded not lambasted.

He is where he is due to his talent and hard work, he didn't suddenly get paid a shed load of money he done his time and why shouldn't he be a bit arrogant with it.

Why the hell not, fuck me he's been given a talent and he's making the most of it.

These guys work extremely hard to stay in top shape and can't afford to let themselves go these days they are as fit as most professional athletes.

Who gives a flying fuck where he lives he's winning and doing a bloody good job of it too.

Chapeau Lewis"

Couldn't have put it better myself

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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He is a bellend of epic proportions! A sore little loser

"

Really? You know him personally enough to be able to qualify that comment?

A sore loser? Name me any sportsperson that likes losing!

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By *cgkcCouple
over a year ago

Hitchin


"I think people resent he came from a working class family from Stevenage. Though Stevenage is unforgivable. "

Where I went to school...

Growing up their you'd want to move to Milton Keynes never mind Monaco.

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By *arlomaleMan
over a year ago

darlington


"He is one of the best ever drivers.. why is not appreciated more ..?

Or are they only appreciated when they retire..

He is a bellend of epic proportions! A sore little loser...

During the McLaren years Button out drove him consistently and all Hamilton did was moan about it...even used the race card when the stewards handed him a grid penalty!!

Ferrari made a mess in 2017 and 2018...pretty much handed Hamilton the championship on a plate 2 years in a row.

Give any driver a car that is faster than the rest of the pack and he/she will win...its not rocket science

"

all f1 cars have the same size engines so the driver must have some input

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By * and M lookingCouple
over a year ago

Worcester


"He is one of the best ever drivers.. why is not appreciated more ..?

Or are they only appreciated when they retire.."

Put him in a poorer car and he wont win any more.

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By *o_eye_deerMan
over a year ago

The South Near That London


"He has personality, compare him to the likes of Schumacher/vettel.

Hakkinen emotionless, but funny to some degree.

Hamilton is much more mature compared to his first world championship. Regardless of where he lives he's exciting to watch. "

Now I’m no fan of Vettel as a driver, but when he’s on form he’s a very funny guy!

And do you mean Raikkonen rather than Hakkinen? Kimi has always hated doing the press/media thing, again away from the spotlight he’s a very funny guy - a friend worked at McLaren from 2003 - 2009 was a composites guy and also the fuel rig man in the pits, so I have had the fortune to meet Kimi at a social do during his brief spell there, met Lewis very briefly as well not long after he joined, he was quite aloof and awkward back then, but very well liked and respected by his team.

Trouble with F1 is it’s a sport run by, and, mainly aimed at middle aged, middle class duffers; so they just don’t get Lewis, he doesn’t fit their idea of what an F1 driver should be, in some respects he’s more like James Hunt was, not talking about the drinking and shagging, but the fact he is doing his own thing.

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By *arlomaleMan
over a year ago

darlington


"He is one of the best ever drivers.. why is not appreciated more ..?

Or are they only appreciated when they retire..

Put him in a poorer car and he wont win any more."

he came top in the reasonably priced car on top gear he was quickest in the dry and the wet

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By *mokes n MirrorsCouple
over a year ago

Plymouth and Newcastle (sometimes)


"Bcz he's an arrogant little shit and a lot don't like him. Give me Schumacher,mansel,senna etc any day over him

Schumacher ... I can only win this by running the other guy off the road

Senna .. had an air of arrogance

Let's not forget Vettel ... height of arrogance who cannot race on traffic!!

Some say that in order to succeed in F1 .. you have display some self confidence or arrogance

He is equally humble recognising he is one part of the whole machine"

Spoken like a true petrolhead. I've watched Lewis from his first televised appearance (Blue Peter way back in the day) and seen him rise through the ranks of drivers who cheat and bend the rules and yet I've never seen him do either of those things. He's a true sporting hero and role model for how a professional sportsman should behave.

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By *m3232Man
over a year ago

maidenhead

I am a lewis fan. Definitely one of the top few drivers and probably has the best marketing appeal of them all and he wins. So has earnt the right to go down as one of the best drivers to race in F1.

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By *tingly ByronMan
over a year ago

In a town Fab forgot


"Honestly he must wake up in the morning in his multimillion pound mansion, dating super hot women, access to the most sophisticated racing equipment know to man, enough money to live a hundred lifetimes he must think.

"Where did it all go wrong?"

Really people we have a great British champion at the absolute pinnacle of success should be applauded not lambasted.

He is where he is due to his talent and hard work, he didn't suddenly get paid a shed load of money he done his time and why shouldn't he be a bit arrogant with it.

Why the hell not, fuck me he's been given a talent and he's making the most of it.

These guys work extremely hard to stay in top shape and can't afford to let themselves go these days they are as fit as most professional athletes.

Who gives a flying fuck where he lives he's winning and doing a bloody good job of it too.

Chapeau Lewis"

Preach......

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By *unscot44Man
over a year ago

Stepps (Glasgow)

I agree with others, there is no question he is one of the greatest F1 drivers ever but he does come across as a right wee arrogant knob at times

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"maybe Lewis should act like them overpaid overpriced overrated premier league footballers but he doesn’t he’s never in the papers for drinking fights drugs so maybe people should give him a break

Overpaid? Hamilton earns more than they do and he spends less time earning it."

A hell of a lot of mph crash = danger money!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

He is an utter asshole, I don't know him but know a few people that knew him before he became to wonderful to know them any more.

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By * and M lookingCouple
over a year ago

Worcester


"He is one of the best ever drivers.. why is not appreciated more ..?

Or are they only appreciated when they retire..

Put him in a poorer car and he wont win any more. he came top in the reasonably priced car on top gear he was quickest in the dry and the wet "

Let him switch cars with Vettel and see if he keeps winning then.

If he did then we can’t say it’s just that he has the best car / team behind him.

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By *oan of DArcCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow


"Tough one as undoubtedly an amazing driver but modern F1 seems heavily reliant on the the technology and the car

Would he be such a success without that technology at his finger tips? I wonder .. "

But all F1 drivers have that technology at their fingertips and he was successful before he moved to Mercedes.

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By *oan of DArcCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow


"He is one of the best ever drivers.. why is not appreciated more ..?

Or are they only appreciated when they retire..

Put him in a poorer car and he wont win any more. he came top in the reasonably priced car on top gear he was quickest in the dry and the wet

Let him switch cars with Vettel and see if he keeps winning then.

If he did then we can’t say it’s just that he has the best car / team behind him."

He won his first world title at McLaren.

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By *o_eye_deerMan
over a year ago

The South Near That London


"He is one of the best ever drivers.. why is not appreciated more ..?

Or are they only appreciated when they retire..

Put him in a poorer car and he wont win any more. he came top in the reasonably priced car on top gear he was quickest in the dry and the wet

Let him switch cars with Vettel and see if he keeps winning then.

If he did then we can’t say it’s just that he has the best car / team behind him."

He could have won the title last year in the Ferrari - Vettel lost it all on his own.

Ferrari were the better team than McLaren in 2008.

And I think this right, will check to confirm, but I believe he is the only driver to have won an F1 GP in every season he’s competed in, and some of those McLarens were complete dogs.

And I think he had to compete against more WDC drivers then most others - Button, Alonso, Vettel, Schumacher, Raikkonen, Rosberg

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Bcz he's an arrogant little shit and a lot don't like him. Give me Schumacher,mansel,senna etc any day over him

That so bizarre... I've always found him to be humble and realistic. Schumacher on the other hand was very arrogant "

This comment is spot on

Schumacher was arrogant on and off the track and Hamilton does genuinely come across as a decent guy although a more than a little “new money” with his crazy fashion, jewellery and love of rubbing shoulders with A listers etc.

He has earned the right to enjoy himself in whatever way he likes as long as he isn’t hurting anyone.

If i were asked to pay 50% of your earnings in Tax, i would be off to a tax haven as well and so would the vast majority of people.

I think these things he does rubs people up the wrong way which makes him not relatable in the way and I think the British like the brave loser rather than a dominant winner.

As for it being all the car doing it for him i say bollocks!!

It’s been agreed by many former F1 drivers and commentators that Hamilton could drive at the top level in any era and I agree.

LJ

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By *tingly ByronMan
over a year ago

In a town Fab forgot


"Tough one as undoubtedly an amazing driver but modern F1 seems heavily reliant on the the technology and the car

Would he be such a success without that technology at his finger tips? I wonder ..

But all F1 drivers have that technology at their fingertips and he was successful before he moved to Mercedes."

You posted what I was thinking.

The "He's only good because of the tech" argument doesn't stack up when they all have the same tech.

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By *tingly ByronMan
over a year ago

In a town Fab forgot


"Bcz he's an arrogant little shit and a lot don't like him. Give me Schumacher,mansel,senna etc any day over him

That so bizarre... I've always found him to be humble and realistic. Schumacher on the other hand was very arrogant

This comment is spot on

Schumacher was arrogant on and off the track and Hamilton does genuinely come across as a decent guy although a more than a little “new money” with his crazy fashion, jewellery and love of rubbing shoulders with A listers etc.

He has earned the right to enjoy himself in whatever way he likes as long as he isn’t hurting anyone.

If i were asked to pay 50% of your earnings in Tax, i would be off to a tax haven as well and so would the vast majority of people.

I think these things he does rubs people up the wrong way which makes him not relatable in the way and I think the British like the brave loser rather than a dominant winner.

As for it being all the car doing it for him i say bollocks!!

It’s been agreed by many former F1 drivers and commentators that Hamilton could drive at the top level in any era and I agree.

LJ"

Spot on.

Not forgetting no-one likes paying tax, but when someone else finds a way of paying less they're a pariah.

Most of the shit he gets over this is envy.

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By *oan of DArcCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow


"Tough one as undoubtedly an amazing driver but modern F1 seems heavily reliant on the the technology and the car

Would he be such a success without that technology at his finger tips? I wonder ..

But all F1 drivers have that technology at their fingertips and he was successful before he moved to Mercedes.

You posted what I was thinking.

The "He's only good because of the tech" argument doesn't stack up when they all have the same tech.

"

...and even if they don't have the same tech all it does is serve to bring the performance of modern F1 cars closer together (compared earlier machines), making the input of the driver even more critical as the difference between victory and defeat can be measured in milliseconds.

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By *ecadent_DevonMan
over a year ago

Okehampton

For those saying it's the car. It's always been the car that has had a major influence. Schumacher had Bridgestone making tyres almost exclusively for ferrari during his glory years (and well Sauber, yeah right like Bridgestone cared). All the other teams had michellins at the time so 1 tyre manufacturer for 2 teams and another trying to make a tyre that worked across 8 teams... I take nothing from Schumacher, arrogant as he was he drove the wheels off his car.

Prost and Senna had a mcclaren with active suspension, the car would literally change heights going into and out of an apex no other team had that. Again both excellent drivers but with a mechanical advantage.

Lewis has a good car but he does drive the wheels off it. The British unlike the Americans seem to look for the cracks in their great sportsmen and women, hence the reason he is villifyed.

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By *ed-monkeyCouple
over a year ago

Hailsham


"For those saying it's the car. It's always been the car that has had a major influence. Schumacher had Bridgestone making tyres almost exclusively for ferrari during his glory years (and well Sauber, yeah right like Bridgestone cared). All the other teams had michellins at the time so 1 tyre manufacturer for 2 teams and another trying to make a tyre that worked across 8 teams... I take nothing from Schumacher, arrogant as he was he drove the wheels off his car.

Prost and Senna had a mcclaren with active suspension, the car would literally change heights going into and out of an apex no other team had that. Again both excellent drivers but with a mechanical advantage.

Lewis has a good car but he does drive the wheels off it. The British unlike the Americans seem to look for the cracks in their great sportsmen and women, hence the reason he is villifyed. "

So true ... as with the cricket this weekend ... "oh they didn't really win" ... yes they fucking did ... Hamilton is one of the greatest .. yes ... some arrogance... but as I said earlier ... that's needed in F1 in some ways .. just celebrate the successes that we as a relatively small nation ... enjoy

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By *tingly ByronMan
over a year ago

In a town Fab forgot


"Tough one as undoubtedly an amazing driver but modern F1 seems heavily reliant on the the technology and the car

Would he be such a success without that technology at his finger tips? I wonder ..

But all F1 drivers have that technology at their fingertips and he was successful before he moved to Mercedes.

You posted what I was thinking.

The "He's only good because of the tech" argument doesn't stack up when they all have the same tech.

...and even if they don't have the same tech all it does is serve to bring the performance of modern F1 cars closer together (compared earlier machines), making the input of the driver even more critical as the difference between victory and defeat can be measured in milliseconds."

It amazes me how on the same track, in the same conditions, with the same tech and very similar cars, one driver can lap at 6/100s of a minute quicker.

It's got to be the driver when the balances are so even.

If it was only the tech that won races none of them would ever fuck up their braking, go off track, stray off the racing line, skid because they got the power down too quickly.

If it's just the tech why can some drivers race in the rain and some struggle?

Wasn't there oil on the track in qualifying at some point over the weekend? Some drivers were going off, some were racing through it.

The better drivers handle the conditions better.

Anyone remember Mansells tyre blow out at close to 200mph?

Driver skill beats tech hands down.

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By *oan of DArcCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow


"Tough one as undoubtedly an amazing driver but modern F1 seems heavily reliant on the the technology and the car

Would he be such a success without that technology at his finger tips? I wonder ..

But all F1 drivers have that technology at their fingertips and he was successful before he moved to Mercedes.

You posted what I was thinking.

The "He's only good because of the tech" argument doesn't stack up when they all have the same tech.

...and even if they don't have the same tech all it does is serve to bring the performance of modern F1 cars closer together (compared earlier machines), making the input of the driver even more critical as the difference between victory and defeat can be measured in milliseconds.

It amazes me how on the same track, in the same conditions, with the same tech and very similar cars, one driver can lap at 6/100s of a minute quicker.

It's got to be the driver when the balances are so even.

If it was only the tech that won races none of them would ever fuck up their braking, go off track, stray off the racing line, skid because they got the power down too quickly.

If it's just the tech why can some drivers race in the rain and some struggle?

Wasn't there oil on the track in qualifying at some point over the weekend? Some drivers were going off, some were racing through it.

The better drivers handle the conditions better.

Anyone remember Mansells tyre blow out at close to 200mph?

Driver skill beats tech hands down."

Indeed and you can imagine the owners of the most successful teams want the best drivers in the cockpit who will maximise their chances of winning?

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By *tingly ByronMan
over a year ago

In a town Fab forgot


"Tough one as undoubtedly an amazing driver but modern F1 seems heavily reliant on the the technology and the car

Would he be such a success without that technology at his finger tips? I wonder ..

But all F1 drivers have that technology at their fingertips and he was successful before he moved to Mercedes.

You posted what I was thinking.

The "He's only good because of the tech" argument doesn't stack up when they all have the same tech.

...and even if they don't have the same tech all it does is serve to bring the performance of modern F1 cars closer together (compared earlier machines), making the input of the driver even more critical as the difference between victory and defeat can be measured in milliseconds.

It amazes me how on the same track, in the same conditions, with the same tech and very similar cars, one driver can lap at 6/100s of a minute quicker.

It's got to be the driver when the balances are so even.

If it was only the tech that won races none of them would ever fuck up their braking, go off track, stray off the racing line, skid because they got the power down too quickly.

If it's just the tech why can some drivers race in the rain and some struggle?

Wasn't there oil on the track in qualifying at some point over the weekend? Some drivers were going off, some were racing through it.

The better drivers handle the conditions better.

Anyone remember Mansells tyre blow out at close to 200mph?

Driver skill beats tech hands down.

Indeed and you can imagine the owners of the most successful teams want the best drivers in the cockpit who will maximise their chances of winning?"

Who'd have thought it eh?

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By *arlomaleMan
over a year ago

darlington

What I find strange is as a nation we slate Hamilton and Andy Murray but us English adore gazza who in my opinion had 3 good games for England and he’s not even the best to come from the northeast

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Bcz he's an arrogant little shit and a lot don't like him. Give me Schumacher,mansel,senna etc any day over him "

Schumacher was an arrogant shit, Mansell was a miserable moaming git but frankly that is the attitude it takes to win in F1!

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By *o_eye_deerMan
over a year ago

The South Near That London


"Bcz he's an arrogant little shit and a lot don't like him. Give me Schumacher,mansel,senna etc any day over him

Schumacher was an arrogant shit, Mansell was a miserable moaming git but frankly that is the attitude it takes to win in F1! "

Senna was unhinged - believed that god was looking after him so he had no qualms in crashing into rivals.

Piquet was underhanded and played dirty tricks behind the scenes.

Prost was, erm French

Rosberg used dirty tricks - Monaco quali (straight from the Schumacher book of cheating)

Alonso, sold his team down the river

I would say out of the last 30 odd years there haven’t been too many ‘gentlemanly’ champions - Lauda, Button, Raikkonen, Hill, Mansell (but by god was he a whinger) and Hamilton have probably been the only ones who haven’t seemed to need to resort to dirty tricks to win. And you’ll notice a large percentage are British - we, generally, don’t like to cheat our way to a victory - it’s just not the done thing old chap!

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By *o_eye_deerMan
over a year ago

The South Near That London


"What I find strange is as a nation we slate Hamilton and Andy Murray but us English adore gazza who in my opinion had 3 good games for England and he’s not even the best to come from the northeast "

I think a lot of the time, people think it’s ‘cool’ to not like anything popular or anyone successful

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By *arlomaleMan
over a year ago

darlington


"What I find strange is as a nation we slate Hamilton and Andy Murray but us English adore gazza who in my opinion had 3 good games for England and he’s not even the best to come from the northeast

I think a lot of the time, people think it’s ‘cool’ to not like anything popular or anyone successful "

good point are we a nation of underdogs so we cheer on the underdogs

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By *od ThrusterMan
over a year ago

Newport Pagnell

The thing with F1 is that there have always been talented drivers. Sometimes there are a few operating in the same era. But, the guy with the best car always wins the championship (especially these days with more races and more points per race).

Last night I watched a re-run of the 1987 British Grand Prix where only 2 cars finished on the same lap. One of those drivers won the title. Not too dissimilar to the way Mercedes has been the last few years (and Red Bull for the few years before that).

Hamilton is a very good driver. Is he the best of his era? Possibly, maybe even probably. Is he the best of all time? No-where near in my opinion!

Much as I can appreciate his talent, he comes across as not very pleasant (arrogance is certainly one accusation). It may be just his "media persona" but he seems quite dislikable. In real life, away from the glare of the public, he may be completely different.

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By *od ThrusterMan
over a year ago

Newport Pagnell


"I am sure the aristocracy pay little tax.. but if a commoner does the same then they are outed.. I would reside in Monte Carlo if I had his money "

I'd go to the Isle of Man - you get proper racing and racers there!

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By *apeyeMan
over a year ago

worcester

He’s a legend, top of his game and in interviews all appreciative of his fans that support him.

I was at Silverstone this weekend and he took the time to come out and greet all of us, how many of the German racing drivers ever do that ??

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By *oan of DArcCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow


"!

Much as I can appreciate his talent, he comes across as not very pleasant (arrogance is certainly one accusation). It may be just his "media persona" but he seems quite dislikable. In real life, away from the glare of the public, he may be completely different."

You may well be right but the public obsession with 'personality' is a modern day disease where because if social media people expect to know what time Meghan Markle takes a shit in the morning and if she doesn't tell them the public turn on her!

I'd say Hamilton and other leading sportsman are different, their success is measured in their performance, not their Twitter likes (unless your their PR agent), so they can be forgiven for being single minded.

I watched the preamble to Sundays grand Prix, the grid was teeming with (rich) fans/celebrities and the media, fraternising with drivers about to take part at the highest level.

Mark Webber and Jonathan Coulthard were strutting around competing with other reporters, shoving microphones into driver's faces on live TV, I'm surprised noone ever tells them to piss off, not surprising though that some come across as arrogant!

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By *ocbigMan
over a year ago

Birmingham

Have you seen Mark Cavendish when he is asked a dumb question ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"He is one of the best ever drivers.. why is not appreciated more ..?

Or are they only appreciated when they retire.."

I guess he needs to prove his driving skills in a clapped out Mondeo

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"He is one of the best ever drivers.. why is not appreciated more ..?

Or are they only appreciated when they retire.."

Or when they die

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Sod F1, moto gp is where its at lol BRING ON THE POWER!!! "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Sod F1, moto gp is where its at lol BRING ON THE POWER!!! "

Big respect for the iron horsemen

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up


"Bcz he's an arrogant little shit and a lot don't like him. Give me Schumacher,mansel,senna etc any day over him "
this. Make him drive a proper car

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Sod F1, moto gp is where its at lol BRING ON THE POWER!!!

Big respect for the iron horsemen "

IOM TT rocks

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By *ave 42Man
over a year ago

pontefract

F1 is boring nowadays not watched it since they did away with refuelling

As for Hamilton never rated him as a driver compared to Senna,Prost ,Schumacher & Lauda

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There's this he fact that he doesn't pay any tax and fraudulently claimed the vat back on an air craft.

There's the fact that he goes on about being British but lives in Monaco to avoid British taxes.

There's the fact he claimed to be given a penalty because he was black rather than because he broke the rules.

Probably the most annoying is that he claims to be the first black driver in F1. I cannot understand why Karun Chandhock or Narain Karthekian haven't pulled him up on that one as they were both around before him and unlike Hamilton have black parents too, Hamilton has a white mother. He certainly holds a lot of records but to claim one that isn't true really annoys me.

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