FabSwingers.com forum: ASDA using facial recognition cameras !

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

In Lancashire England ASDA are using facial recognition cameras in their stores.some customers already angry.

The University of Essex states live met police trials using facial recognition matches were wrong in 4 out of 5 cases.

Civil liberties campaigning group'Big Brother watch' said the cameras are shameful and should be scrapped..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

At last !! I have been waiting for this days since 23 days !

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

wouldnt bother me in the least. If i was in asda id be shopping

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"wouldnt bother me in the least. If i was in asda id be shagging"
knew it !

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

"wouldnt bother me in the least. If i was in asda id be shaggingknew it ! "
thought that was behind asda

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

For the purpose of what?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"wouldnt bother me in the least. If i was in asda id be shopping"
I think one objection is the cameras are picking out the wrong faces if you look similar to some criminal for example you'll be held and your day wasted/ruined because of the cameras

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"wouldnt bother me in the least. If i was in asda id be shaggingknew it ! thought that was behind asda

In/behind it.

White hat/hat white

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

Asda say they are not.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Asda say they are not."
ASDA have had to concede they have in some stores green boxes to help cameras focus on faces..what's that if not facial recognition... a rose by any other name... Walmart who owns ASDA does not deny their use

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It would not bother me if they were just scanning for known people with outstanding warrants ect.

But I do take exception to them scanning and keeping all scans as this would be miss-used.

Just like when they take dna from people to excuse them from a case, because we know they don’t throw anything away

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Asda say they are not. ASDA have had to concede they have in some stores green boxes to help cameras focus on faces..what's that if not facial recognition... a rose by any other name... Walmart who owns ASDA does not deny their use"

If they are using facial recognition cameras they are supposed to have warning signs out

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"It would not bother me if they were just scanning for known people with outstanding warrants ect.

But I do take exception to them scanning and keeping all scans as this would be miss-used.

Just like when they take dna from people to excuse them from a case, because we know they don’t throw anything away "
ASDA say they only keep face scans for 30 days

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

If they are using facial recognition cameras they are supposed to have warning signs out "
I wonder if anyone Lancashire has seen these signs warning that. an interesting point

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

If facial recognition technology gets it wrong in four out of five cases the chances of being wrongly identified as a criminal are quite high.

I'm tired of being told what I shouldn't eat, drink, do, think and now I'm tired of buying baked beans and having my face saved by Asda for 30 days in case I do something bad.

I think I'll just go and hand myself in

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

I went through the fast lane last week. The one where you scan your own shopping and then pay.

The woman said...... 'spot check' .. I said what ? She said spot check - it's telling me to spot check four items.. Before I knew it she picked up some of the stuff in my trolley and scanned it.....

Then she let me pay.

I had no idea what was going on .. BUT..... later that day I realised they must be checking for theft.... I was pretty annoyed and the next time im in there i'm going to ask about it and complain about it.

I should NOT be checked just cos I use a service THEY provide.

P.S. I'm probably prone to temptation like a most people but for a fucking avacado ...... gimme a break.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I went through the fast lane last week. The one where you scan your own shopping and then pay.

The woman said...... 'spot check' .. I said what ? She said spot check - it's telling me to spot check four items.. Before I knew it she picked up some of the stuff in my trolley and scanned it.....

Then she let me pay.

I should NOT be checked just cos I use a service THEY provide.

P.S. I'm probably prone to temptation like a most people but I do love fucking avacados...... gimme a break. "

I know you do

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

Steal avacados ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Steal avacados ?"

Reread it

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

You daft git ..... I just got that.

Show me your avacado....... now!

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Steal avacados ?

Reread it "

I did. You nana.

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By *irth.Minge.FireMan
over a year ago

Seen in far off places

In ASDA... pmsl

There'll be some horrific facial sights ...and many previously seen on the Jeremy Kyle show I'm sure!

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"I went through the fast lane last week. The one where you scan your own shopping and then pay.

The woman said...... 'spot check' .. I said what ? She said spot check - it's telling me to spot check four items.. Before I knew it she picked up some of the stuff in my trolley and scanned it.....

Then she let me pay.

I should NOT be checked just cos I use a service THEY provide.

P.S. I'm probably prone to temptation like a most people but for a fucking avacado ...... gimme a break. "

That's standard. They have different checks each day do tomorrow they might check one in five while today they check one in three. The amount of shoplifting via self scan is so great that it's worthwhile. Which begs the question why not just put this employee on a checkout and prevent insulting honest customers

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You daft git ..... I just got that.

Show me your avacado....... now!"

(Avocado) emoji

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"In ASDA... pmsl

There'll be some horrific facial sights ...and many previously seen on the Jeremy Kyle show I'm sure!"

You know...... being such a frightful snob doesn't make you better than others.

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By *uzz And WoodyCouple
over a year ago

Maidstone

I really couldn’t give a shit, as I know I’m innocent. Only thieves and overly paranoid individuals need to worry. Big brother’s been watching for years anyhow, why be bothered now?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Do you have more informato on about this? I know I could Google but I'm feeling lazy. I fail to see why Asda could possibly need to use facial recognition software. Is there a huge list of people banned from Asda contained on a stricky enforced global database?

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"I really couldn’t give a shit, as I know I’m innocent. Only thieves and overly paranoid individuals need to worry. Big brother’s been watching for years anyhow, why be bothered now?

Ed"

I'd rather the camera watched me than some make believe super hero at close quaters.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"I really couldn’t give a shit, as I know I’m innocent. Only thieves and overly paranoid individuals need to worry. Big brother’s been watching for years anyhow, why be bothered now?

Ed"

I'm concerned about a supermarket storing my image for 30 days in case I do something wrong. I'm not a thief and I'm certainly not paranoid but having our details recorded in case we do bad stuff is so fraught with the possibility for misuse that it's frightening.

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By *uzz And WoodyCouple
over a year ago

Maidstone

"I really couldn’t give a shit, as I know I’m innocent. Only thieves and overly paranoid individuals need to worry. Big brother’s been watching for years anyhow, why be bothered now?

Such as?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I really couldn’t give a shit, as I know I’m innocent. Only thieves and overly paranoid individuals need to worry. Big brother’s been watching for years anyhow, why be bothered now?

And as in another thread "incognito " it would bloody blow my cover ffs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I really couldn’t give a shit, as I know I’m innocent. Only thieves and overly paranoid individuals need to worry. Big brother’s been watching for years anyhow, why be bothered now?

Such as?"

Cheating on someone

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

I could be a thief if the gains were high enough ......

Now that's on record. I await the heavy knocking of the avacado police....

Gubbye freeeeee worrrlllld...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I could be a thief if the gains were high enough ......

Now that's on record. I await the heavy knocking of the avacado police....

Gubbye freeeeee worrrlllld... "

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By *uzz And WoodyCouple
over a year ago

Maidstone

I struggle to see how this technology can possibly frighten innocent people that have nothing to hide?

What if this technology actually aided the police in solving a crime that affected you/your family?

What’s with the paranoid hysteria?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It feels more and more like we are sleep walking into 1984, except it’s not being forced on us - we are willingly buying into it.

Do we truly have privacy anymore?

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By *icolerobbieCouple
over a year ago

walsall

Those who wish to remain anonymous can simply wear a burka or niqab. Maybe a full face mask like the IRA used to wear?

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Those who wish to remain anonymous can simply wear a burka or niqab. Maybe a full face mask like the IRA used to wear?"

Funny you should say that. I was contemplating a piggy one or a trumpy one.

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By *ex HolesMan
over a year ago

Up North

Listen to the OP showing off cause he shops in ASDA knowing full well us forumites only use Aldi.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Asda have had facial recognition cameras for over 15 years...and cameras that can track individuals round the store....they also use software that detects behaviour patterns to spot thieves..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Listen to the OP showing off cause he shops in ASDA knowing full well us forumites only use Aldi."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Do we really need face recognition/cctv? It only helps after a crime rather than prevent it. In some cases it simply films the crime but doesn't solve it. After being attacked or car stolen its hardly consolation to have someone say "the good news is we filmed all of it" but not have a clue who it is.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"I really couldn’t give a shit, as I know I’m innocent. Only thieves and overly paranoid individuals need to worry. Big brother’s been watching for years anyhow, why be bothered now?

Such as?"

I'm looking at the bigger picture. If it's ok for Asda to do it (if it's actually happening) it's ok for all places where people congregate. Data breaches are common and the goal posts are being moved all the time. Extortion, scamming etc are just two possibilities I can think of

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"Do we really need face recognition/cctv? It only helps after a crime rather than prevent it. In some cases it simply films the crime but doesn't solve it. After being attacked or car stolen its hardly consolation to have someone say "the good news is we filmed all of it" but not have a clue who it is. "

Yeah there's footage being aired daily on our local news of two guys breaking into a house armed with machetes. Of course their faces are covered and no arrests have been made.

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By *tingly ByronMan
over a year ago

In a town Fab forgot

"In Lancashire England ASDA are using facial recognition cameras in their stores.some customers already angry.

The University of Essex states live met police trials using facial recognition matches were wrong in 4 out of 5 cases.

Civil liberties campaigning group'Big Brother watch' said the cameras are shameful and should be scrapped.."

Many shopping centres have been using FR for years.

Shoplifters, muggers, general nere do wells are kept out or caught through its use.

Same old same old, if you've done nothing wrong you've nothing to worry about.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think the two questions everyone should ask themselves are 'Do you trust the government?' and ‘ Do you trust big corporations?'. If the answer is no to either or both, then you really should care about this sort of thing and resist it as much as you can.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Listen to the OP showing off cause he shops in ASDA knowing full well us forumites only use Aldi."
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actually I only shop at Aldi's last 15 years, even though I live very near a lidls.prefer aldis

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By *tingly ByronMan
over a year ago

In a town Fab forgot

"I think the two questions everyone should ask themselves are 'Do you trust the government?' and ‘ Do you trust big corporations?'. If the answer is no to either or both, then you really should care about this sort of thing and resist it as much as you can. "

Yup, because ASDA are going to frame me for 911 or summat.

99.99% of big brother bollocks is ecactly that, bollocks.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"In Lancashire England ASDA are using facial recognition cameras in their stores.some customers already angry.

The University of Essex states live met police trials using facial recognition matches were wrong in 4 out of 5 cases.

Civil liberties campaigning group'Big Brother watch' said the cameras are shameful and should be scrapped..

Many shopping centres have been using FR for years.

Shoplifters, muggers, general nere do wells are kept out or caught through its use.

Same old same old, if you've done nothing wrong you've nothing to worry about."

Until the goal posts change. Many, many years ago many squaddies were just doing what they were told was right in Northern Ireland. Now old men are being pursued through the courts.

Think how easy the extermination of the Jews would of been if Hitler had all this technology. And before you cry Godwins Law, remember one of our two main parties is riddled with anti semitism. The other more than likely has a strong vein of Islamaphobia.....

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

Yep.

The goalposts are constantly being widened about what is acceptable for'our own good'

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

Yup, because ASDA are going to frame me for 911 or summat.

99.99% of big brother bollocks is ecactly that, bollocks. "

If it's ok for Asda to use it and store it then it's ok for all big business to. The more identifiable data that is stored about you the higher the risk of misuse via data breaches.

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By *tingly ByronMan
over a year ago

In a town Fab forgot

Yup, because ASDA are going to frame me for 911 or summat.

99.99% of big brother bollocks is ecactly that, bollocks.

If it's ok for Asda to use it and store it then it's ok for all big business to. The more identifiable data that is stored about you the higher the risk of misuse via data breaches."

I think shops using it to identify shoplifters etc is fine and perfectly reasonable.

Big businesses, less fine. To what end? And I think that needs clear definition, oversight and "rules".

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The 30 days storing part is probably the length of time the system hard drive stores stuff for before it gets written over by new data. That's quite standard in CCTV systems and not that sinister really . Stored CCTV images are looked at when people go missing or when incidents occur.

I like the self service checkouts, I have only had my purchases looked at once in over a hundred self scans and I didn't mind because I had scanned all my goods xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Alexa.... search for Asda stores near me.

Alexa.... order a machete and a face mask for home delivery.

Alexa.... store my banking details on your system.

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By *eakcoupleCouple
over a year ago

peak district

What have you got to hide? The only people who should fear these are criminals and scroungers, so bring them on!

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By *d59michelleTV/TS
over a year ago

walsall

Read the other week that some stores with self service tills according to the computer had sold more carrots than they had in store

Perhaps they are checking on this

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

Yup, because ASDA are going to frame me for 911 or summat.

99.99% of big brother bollocks is ecactly that, bollocks.

If it's ok for Asda to use it and store it then it's ok for all big business to. The more identifiable data that is stored about you the higher the risk of misuse via data breaches.

I think shops using it to identify shoplifters etc is fine and perfectly reasonable.

Big businesses, less fine. To what end? And I think that needs clear definition, oversight and "rules".

Yep.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

Asda is doing what it does for Asda.

There are professional shoplifters and if they can recognise them as they enter the shop they can stop future theft or have them arrested for past theft......

They do not care about me and my avacado.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

Nor will they be sending your pic to Crimewatch to see if you did old mrs. miggins in , stuffed her cat and robbed her ring...

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"Asda is doing what it does for Asda.

There are professional shoplifters and if they can recognise them as they enter the shop they can stop future theft or have them arrested for past theft......

They do not care about me and my avacado."

But if you and your avocado were mistaken by the face recognition for a professional shop lifter you would have to go to Tesco for your avocado

. It's the thin end of the wedge I tell you

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"Nor will they be sending your pic to Crimewatch to see if you did old mrs. miggins in , stuffed her cat and robbed her ring... "

Won't they? What if an avocado was used in the heinous crime?

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Nor will they be sending your pic to Crimewatch to see if you did old mrs. miggins in , stuffed her cat and robbed her ring...

Won't they? What if an avocado was used in the heinous crime? "

I'm done for .....

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"Nor will they be sending your pic to Crimewatch to see if you did old mrs. miggins in , stuffed her cat and robbed her ring...

Won't they? What if an avocado was used in the heinous crime?

I'm done for .....

Might as well fess up

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Asda is doing what it does for Asda.

There are professional shoplifters and if they can recognise them as they enter the shop they can stop future theft or have them arrested for past theft......

They do not care about me and my avacado."

If you scan your avocado but put a massive box of razors in your bag instead, they might not like that.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"Asda is doing what it does for Asda.

There are professional shoplifters and if they can recognise them as they enter the shop they can stop future theft or have them arrested for past theft......

They do not care about me and my avacado.

If you scan your avocado but put a massive box of razors in your bag instead, they might not like that. "

Shhh. She's using the razors to stuff cats up old ladies rings.

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By *tingly ByronMan
over a year ago

In a town Fab forgot

"Asda is doing what it does for Asda.

There are professional shoplifters and if they can recognise them as they enter the shop they can stop future theft or have them arrested for past theft......

They do not care about me and my avacado.

If you scan your avocado but put a massive box of razors in your bag instead, they might not like that.

Shhh. She's using the razors to stuff cats up old ladies rings. "

Niche......

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