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By *tella Heels OP TV/TS
over a year ago

west here ford shire

Just got back from 2 weeks in south west France, I have to admit France beats the U.K. hands down, the roads are brilliant, the country is clean, there is no doom and gloom, their lifestyle is far better than ours

Britain is just all so wrong and fucked up!!

Anyone else think we have some fundamental issues that need addressing here in the U.K.?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

this is why america got it right kids should be made to pledge allegiance to the flag every morning we are an awesome country we should never have sold our empire

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By *axo25Man
over a year ago

lightwater

I’ve always liked the south of France, although I prefer the south east. As always, the only issue with the place is the French themselves. I’d challenge any sane person to drive for over 30 mins on their roads and not want to kill by the end of it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Just got back from 2 weeks in south west France, I have to admit France beats the U.K. hands down, the roads are brilliant, the country is clean, there is no doom and gloom, their lifestyle is far better than ours

Britain is just all so wrong and fucked up!!

Anyone else think we have some fundamental issues that need addressing here in the U.K.?"

Welcome home

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yeah

Scotland should go independent

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

this is why america got it right kids should be made to pledge allegiance to the flag every morning we are an awesome country we should never have sold our empire "

America hasn't got it right, they are in a worse state than us!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The country is clean ?!

you haven't been to the rough part then

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By *axo25Man
over a year ago

lightwater

this is why america got it right kids should be made to pledge allegiance to the flag every morning we are an awesome country we should never have sold our empire

America hasn't got it right, they are in a worse state than us! "

I think their gun laws alone make them exempt from any serious discussion

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By *tella Heels OP TV/TS
over a year ago

west here ford shire

"Yeah

Scotland should go independent "
one problem, Scotland financially could not stand on its own.. but you’re always welcome to if it’s what you desire

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

this is why america got it right kids should be made to pledge allegiance to the flag every morning we are an awesome country we should never have sold our empire

America hasn't got it right, they are in a worse state than us! "

There the most powerful country in the world that used to be us when we had pride now were full of self loathing confidence is key

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yeah

Scotland should go independent

one problem, Scotland financially could not stand on its own.. but you’re always welcome to if it’s what you desire "

We’d find a way. Better than being stuck in the UK

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

this is why america got it right kids should be made to pledge allegiance to the flag every morning we are an awesome country we should never have sold our empire

America hasn't got it right, they are in a worse state than us!

There the most powerful country in the world that used to be us when we had pride now were full of self loathing confidence is key"

You sir take a bow I couldn't of said it better myself

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By *arlomaleMan
over a year ago

darlington

Best country in the world we have our problems but doesn’t everyone the only other country I’d consider living in is Australia got family there visited a couple of time fantasy lifestyle but I love cold damp overcrowded Britain

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By * and M lookingCouple
over a year ago

Worcester

The problem with the UK is the benefits system

We should scrap it.

Watch the population decrease then.

Put that wasted money into our infrastructure instead.

Build a wall in the North

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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago

This is what separates us from others ... a lack of national pride

There are so many amazing things about this country.

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By *arlomaleMan
over a year ago

darlington

"Best country in the world we have our problems but doesn’t everyone the only other country I’d consider living in is Australia got family there visited a couple of time fantasy lifestyle but I love cold damp overcrowded Britain "
fantastic lifestyle

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yeah

Scotland should go independent one problem, Scotland financially could not stand on its own.. but you’re always welcome to if it’s what you desire "

It could! It has oil revenue we couldn't without it more likely!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No doom and gloom! What about the riots that have been happening in Paris for months!!

Every country has its nicer areas and the south of France has plenty of those it doesn’t mean the whole country is that way

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The problem with the UK is the benefits system

We should scrap it.

Watch the population decrease then.

Put that wasted money into our infrastructure instead.

Build a wall in the North

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but who will pay for it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This is what separates us from others ... a lack of national pride

There are so many amazing things about this country. "

1000% this

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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago

"Yeah

Scotland should go independent

one problem, Scotland financially could not stand on its own.. but you’re always welcome to if it’s what you desire

We’d find a way. Better than being stuck in the UK

What’s wrong with the UK?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

this is why america got it right kids should be made to pledge allegiance to the flag every morning we are an awesome country we should never have sold our empire

America hasn't got it right, they are in a worse state than us!

There the most powerful country in the world that used to be us when we had pride now were full of self loathing confidence is key"

The majority of American citizens will tell you they are rife with crime and social problems..... I would be more inclined to listen to the average Joe having to live there day in and day out

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If we were going to emigrate, Canary Islands for us. Warm weather, relaxed lifestyle. Hubby almost moved to Canada in the 90s. Glad he didn’t as we would never have met

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By *uckOfTheBayMan
over a year ago

Mold

France has twice the area and half the population (ish)

We have to squeeze together a bit more

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just think we need pride ... in ourselves and in our country! As a "people" we take a very negative view of everything and have forgotten that life is wonderful and where we live is wonderful so let's pull up our big pants, stop moaning and take responsibility for our own individual self, our community and our country!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"France has twice the area and half the population (ish)

We have to squeeze together a bit more

I was just going to say this... Also sounds like they didn't venture north, i think that reveals a slightly different story

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

this is why america got it right kids should be made to pledge allegiance to the flag every morning we are an awesome country we should never have sold our empire

America hasn't got it right, they are in a worse state than us!

There the most powerful country in the world that used to be us when we had pride now were full of self loathing confidence is key

The majority of American citizens will tell you they are rife with crime and social problems..... I would be more inclined to listen to the average Joe having to live there day in and day out "
im not saying they are better than us there not we are far better but we lack pride in ourselves we act like pussy whipped self haters what happened to us being great everyone has issues loads of laws i disagree with here and issues but you take 10 people from any country they will all have those issues but only us brits hate ourselves for trying to be better

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No doom and gloom! What about the riots that have been happening in Paris for months!!

Every country has its nicer areas and the south of France has plenty of those it doesn’t mean the whole country is that way"

Precisely.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think you have seen a rose tinted view from a small area of a country that you have seen while on holiday. I've visited quite a bit of France and its not all that I'm afraid.

There is a lot of terrorism we don't see as its become so second nature to them that it barely gets reported on.

There are some real bad poverty struck areas

I think the only thing I can give you is yes the motorways are very good compared to ours.

I love the UK. I love our way of life. Our NHS. Our freedom of speech. How safe we are as a country compared to many others. Our rolling green fields. Our beautiful architecture. I think people that are disheartened with the UK need to step back and see how lucky we are. If not then bugger off somewhere else

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By *ebjonnsonMan
over a year ago

Maldon

I would move there tomorrow. Simply for the delicious almond croissants !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nothing to do you were on holiday in the most scenic parts of the country, would be a different story if you are working there and struggling to make ends meet. Pretty naive thinking.

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By *qua vitaeWoman
over a year ago

Shropshire/Midlands

I spent the first half of my life in Australia and, even though the UK has its problems, I much prefer to live here. There are pros and cons in living with both countries, but it’s the feeling, ‘it’s always greener on the other side’, how a lot of people think. Being on holiday in a country isn’t the same as living there.

What I will say about Australia is that the driving is much better over there!

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By *uckOfTheBayMan
over a year ago

Mold

"I would move there tomorrow. Simply for the delicious almond croissants ! "

Lidl do some nice ones

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

this is why america got it right kids should be made to pledge allegiance to the flag every morning we are an awesome country we should never have sold our empire

America hasn't got it right, they are in a worse state than us!

There the most powerful country in the world that used to be us when we had pride now were full of self loathing confidence is key

The majority of American citizens will tell you they are rife with crime and social problems..... I would be more inclined to listen to the average Joe having to live there day in and day out im not saying they are better than us there not we are far better but we lack pride in ourselves we act like pussy whipped self haters what happened to us being great everyone has issues loads of laws i disagree with here and issues but you take 10 people from any country they will all have those issues but only us brits hate ourselves for trying to be better"

I agree with you that people moan about the uk without actually considering that we have things like the nhs and social care (both crippling under immense pressure i might add but its still there)

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By * and M lookingCouple
over a year ago

Worcester

"The problem with the UK is the benefits system

We should scrap it.

Watch the population decrease then.

Put that wasted money into our infrastructure instead.

Build a wall in the North

but who will pay for it

The Mexicans

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The problem with the UK is the benefits system

We should scrap it.

Watch the population decrease then.

Put that wasted money into our infrastructure instead.

Build a wall in the North

but who will pay for it

The Mexicans

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What I will say about Australia is that the driving is much better over there!

But they have spiders there that can kill you

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By *axo25Man
over a year ago

lightwater

I’m not really sure where this ‘lack of pride’ thing comes from. It’s something you read and hear constantly but I don’t think it’s true. As a small nation we’ve always punched above our weight. We regularly over achieve and that has to have something to do with self belief, pride and spirit.

We may not pledge to the flag like some every morning. But that simply wouldn’t be British. We’ve a lot to be proud about. I just don’t buy this self loathing issue some bang on about.

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By *arlomaleMan
over a year ago

darlington

What I will say about Australia is that the driving is much better over there!

But they have spiders there that can kill you

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we have teenagers who kill you

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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago

What I will say about Australia is that the driving is much better over there!

But they have spiders there that can kill you

Yes they do!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I’m not really sure where this ‘lack of pride’ thing comes from. It’s something you read and hear constantly but I don’t think it’s true. As a small nation we’ve always punched above our weight. We regularly over achieve and that has to have something to do with self belief, pride and spirit.

We may not pledge to the flag like some every morning. But that simply wouldn’t be British. We’ve a lot to be proud about. I just don’t buy this self loathing issue some bang on about. "
plenty evidence everytime we get to a penalty shootout or semifinal people are oh dear here we go again prepare for a loss

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think the UK is fine, coming to the end of my 3 months holiday before going back overseas, last time I was here was 2015 and from what I can see some things have got worse but some have got better.

It's a beautiful country, yeah the weather can be unpredictable, but thats what makes the UK so green and lush, the countryside is outstanding, be it moorland or mountains, sitting on the hills watching the sunset can be so lovely.

Every Country has its good point and bad ones, trouble is when you are on holiday somewhere it's usually the best area of that place, you are in holiday mode so your home country does seem bleak.

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By *axo25Man
over a year ago

lightwater

We may not pledge to the flag like some every morning. But that simply wouldn’t be British. We’ve a lot to be proud about. I just don’t buy this self loathing issue some bang on about. plenty evidence everytime we get to a penalty shootout or semifinal people are oh dear here we go again prepare for a loss"

I think that may have something to do with hanging lost five shootouts on the spin over a 20 year period. Almost Pavlovian Conditioning.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't think it's just the pride issue there's also a large part about respect for others and you surroundings.. no one talks anymore we are all glued to our tech

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What I will say about Australia is that the driving is much better over there!

But they have spiders there that can kill you

we have teenagers who kill you

But they are scattered around the world, as Depeche Mode say, people are people

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well I happen to love the UK,you take the good with the bad ,we have the best armed forces in the world who won 2 wars for us

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By *axo25Man
over a year ago

lightwater

I don't think it's just the pride issue there's also a large part about respect for others and you surroundings.. no one talks anymore we are all glued to our tech "

Surely that’s a first world problem, not just the UK ???

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am from the UK, but have lived in NZ for 16yrs now. I am back in the UK on holiday for the first time in 9yrs at the moment.

Things my kids and I have noticed:

I know it is term time, but in the evenings far less kids outside playing than in NZ (though to be fair there is only 1 permanent child living in the coastal village where my parents live!)

People in London were friendlier than I remember.

The hedgerows and banks are all badly overgrown.

Far too many pigeons in the countryside and less in London.

Much better public transport over here, even in the Countryside, than in NZ.

So a mixed bag really. I have felt proud of my Country showing my kids around. It has been cleaner than I remember and people generally friendlier.

I do still think New Zealand (Dunedin anyway) is a safer place to raise my kids.

Random post, but a little on thread hopefully.

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By *arlomaleMan
over a year ago

darlington

"Well I happen to love the UK,you take the good with the bad ,we have the best armed forces in the world who won 2 wars for us

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don’t suppose we had any help in winning them wars we didn’t do it all on our own

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By *eeBee67Man
over a year ago

Masked and Distant

I like the UK, I'm proud of my country.

Just fed up of some of the lowlifes, do gooders who want to protect the lowlifes, and people who don't want me to celebrate my pride in my country.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I am from the UK, but have lived in NZ for 16yrs now. I am back in the UK on holiday for the first time in 9yrs at the moment.

Things my kids and I have noticed:

I know it is term time, but in the evenings far less kids outside playing than in NZ (though to be fair there is only 1 permanent child living in the coastal village where my parents live!)

People in London were friendlier than I remember.

The hedgerows and banks are all badly overgrown.

Far too many pigeons in the countryside and less in London.

Much better public transport over here, even in the Countryside, than in NZ.

So a mixed bag really. I have felt proud of my Country showing my kids around. It has been cleaner than I remember and people generally friendlier.

I do still think New Zealand (Dunedin anyway) is a safer place to raise my kids.

Random post, but a little on thread hopefully.

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random comment but nice body on you !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I like the UK, I'm proud of my country.

Just fed up of some of the lowlifes, do gooders who want to protect the lowlifes, and people who don't want me to celebrate my pride in my country."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Britain is just all so wrong and fucked up!!

Anyone else think we have some fundamental issues that need addressing here in the U.K.?"
I do yes but all controversial so staying right where they ought to

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Britain is just all so wrong and fucked up!!

Anyone else think we have some fundamental issues that need addressing here in the U.K.?"
oh and as a person who loves to travel I'm not a fan of France

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I am from the UK, but have lived in NZ for 16yrs now. I am back in the UK on holiday for the first time in 9yrs at the moment.

Things my kids and I have noticed:

I know it is term time, but in the evenings far less kids outside playing than in NZ (though to be fair there is only 1 permanent child living in the coastal village where my parents live!)

People in London were friendlier than I remember.

The hedgerows and banks are all badly overgrown.

Far too many pigeons in the countryside and less in London.

Much better public transport over here, even in the Countryside, than in NZ.

So a mixed bag really. I have felt proud of my Country showing my kids around. It has been cleaner than I remember and people generally friendlier.

I do still think New Zealand (Dunedin anyway) is a safer place to raise my kids.

Random post, but a little on thread hopefully.

random comment but nice body on you ! "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I am from the UK, but have lived in NZ for 16yrs now. I am back in the UK on holiday for the first time in 9yrs at the moment.

Things my kids and I have noticed:

I know it is term time, but in the evenings far less kids outside playing than in NZ (though to be fair there is only 1 permanent child living in the coastal village where my parents live!)

People in London were friendlier than I remember.

The hedgerows and banks are all badly overgrown.

Far too many pigeons in the countryside and less in London.

Much better public transport over here, even in the Countryside, than in NZ.

So a mixed bag really. I have felt proud of my Country showing my kids around. It has been cleaner than I remember and people generally friendlier.

I do still think New Zealand (Dunedin anyway) is a safer place to raise my kids.

Random post, but a little on thread hopefully.

random comment but nice body on you !

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from the pics and vids I've seen of new Zealand it's a beautiful place

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By *entish79Man
over a year ago

Glasgow

this is why america got it right kids should be made to pledge allegiance to the flag every morning we are an awesome country we should never have sold our empire "

You think we should still have the Empire?

Who did we sell it to?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I am from the UK, but have lived in NZ for 16yrs now. I am back in the UK on holiday for the first time in 9yrs at the moment.

Things my kids and I have noticed:

I know it is term time, but in the evenings far less kids outside playing than in NZ (though to be fair there is only 1 permanent child living in the coastal village where my parents live!)

People in London were friendlier than I remember.

The hedgerows and banks are all badly overgrown.

Far too many pigeons in the countryside and less in London.

Much better public transport over here, even in the Countryside, than in NZ.

So a mixed bag really. I have felt proud of my Country showing my kids around. It has been cleaner than I remember and people generally friendlier.

I do still think New Zealand (Dunedin anyway) is a safer place to raise my kids.

Random post, but a little on thread hopefully.

random comment but nice body on you !

from the pics and vids I've seen of new Zealand it's a beautiful place

New Zealand is a beautiful Country, but so is England and the whole of GB.

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By *entish79Man
over a year ago

Glasgow

this is why america got it right kids should be made to pledge allegiance to the flag every morning we are an awesome country we should never have sold our empire

America hasn't got it right, they are in a worse state than us!

There the most powerful country in the world that used to be us when we had pride now were full of self loathing confidence is key"

So if we still had more pride, we could still be the most powerful country in the world, more like the US, and that would be a good thing?

Why is being the most powerful country in the world a good thing? Why is it so important to you?

Some of the countries with the best standards of living are nowhere near being the most powerful.

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By *qua vitaeWoman
over a year ago

Shropshire/Midlands

What I will say about Australia is that the driving is much better over there!

But they have spiders there that can kill you

Yes they do!

Don’t forget the venomous snakes in the bush, and sharks, box jelly fish and stone fish in the sea. To be fair, I’ve never seen a red back nor a funnel web in the wild (they’re very small spiders and mainly in the country areas), but it’s the Huntsmens and flying cockroaches that frightens me the most.

My mother had a wolf spider in her bedroom once. Its body was so big, that it wouldn’t go up the vacuum cleaner!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I am from the UK, but have lived in NZ for 16yrs now. I am back in the UK on holiday for the first time in 9yrs at the moment.

Things my kids and I have noticed:

I know it is term time, but in the evenings far less kids outside playing than in NZ (though to be fair there is only 1 permanent child living in the coastal village where my parents live!)

People in London were friendlier than I remember.

The hedgerows and banks are all badly overgrown.

Far too many pigeons in the countryside and less in London.

Much better public transport over here, even in the Countryside, than in NZ.

So a mixed bag really. I have felt proud of my Country showing my kids around. It has been cleaner than I remember and people generally friendlier.

I do still think New Zealand (Dunedin anyway) is a safer place to raise my kids.

Random post, but a little on thread hopefully.

random comment but nice body on you !

from the pics and vids I've seen of new Zealand it's a beautiful place

New Zealand is a beautiful Country, but so is England and the whole of GB. "
Hey do you know the most beautiful place in England? I'm sitting on it in my next pic challenge

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As utopia doesn't exist, I'd say every country has its problems.i can live with the issues there are in England. That's why I live here. If I felt strongly that it was awful I'd move elsewhere. People who constantly moan about things yet do nothing to change their situation get on my tits.

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By *est Wales WifeCouple
over a year ago

Near Carmarthen

this is why america got it right kids should be made to pledge allegiance to the flag every morning we are an awesome country we should never have sold our empire "

I thought that this was satire at first. America is terrorist nation number one, the source of most of the world's problems with an industrial military complex that requires it to be permanently at war.

I certainly wouldn't swear allegiance to the butcher's apron as the UK's record is nearly as bad plundering other countries in the name of the Empire. The reason continents like Africa are poor is because we've plundered them.

The UK's history of oppression is good, look up our history sometime not believe the crap school and the media told you.

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By *entish79Man
over a year ago

Glasgow

"As utopia doesn't exist, I'd say every country has its problems.i can live with the issues there are in England. That's why I live here. If I felt strongly that it was awful I'd move elsewhere. People who constantly moan about things yet do nothing to change their situation get on my tits. "

Exactly this. Despite all the moaning about how crap it is here, I wonder how many would put their money where their mouth is and gamble on a roulette wheel of all the other countries in the world. Give that much of the rest of the world remains in abject poverty or has appalling human rights records, the fact is we don’t know we’re born, and fate has actually dealt us a pretty good hand.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The grass is greener on the other side OP

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm currently in Japan, the trains run on time and everybody is polite.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

Tourist area by any chance ?

I can imagine visitors driving gently through the welsh countryside or the lakes and even some English villages saying exactly the same when they got back to France.

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By *entish79Man
over a year ago

Glasgow

Haha! Good point. I think there must be a massive overlap between the people constantly talking this country down, and the people who are constantly wanging on about immigrants coming here because it’s all such a gravy train.

Completely oblivious to the way they trip themselves up on all their contradictions and barmy logic.

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By *entish79Man
over a year ago

Glasgow

"Tourist area by any chance ?

I can imagine visitors driving gently through the welsh countryside or the lakes and even some English villages saying exactly the same when they got back to France. "

Are you suggesting that anecdotally comparing the worst example of one place with the best example of somewhere else is an utterly pointless exercise?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm currently in Cornwall. I like Provence very much, and Italy, especially the Amalfi Coast. Yesterday I was sat on a clifftop watching yachts go back and forth and thought that, given the weather, the UK beats them both. Most countries have both beauty and squalor if you look for them..

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"The problem with the UK is the benefits system

We should scrap it.

Watch the population decrease then.

Put that wasted money into our infrastructure instead.

Build a wall in the North

Yeah . keep anyone south of Stafford out! Out out out !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No country is perfect and when we go on holiday for a couple of weeks we only see what we want to. France, just like the UK has plenty of cracks in it. Sigh. No arse jokes please.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Anyone else think we have some fundamental issues that need addressing here in the U.K.?"

I go canaries alot, worked in Thailand, stayed in Nigeria....been loads of places.

1) no 1st ammendment

2) bias gun ownership based on privalidge

3) limited rights to self defence

4) small business enterpriese are taxed and regulated too much

5) 420 isn't legal

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By *arlomaleMan
over a year ago

darlington

this is why america got it right kids should be made to pledge allegiance to the flag every morning we are an awesome country we should never have sold our empire

The UK's history of oppression is good, look up our history sometime not believe the crap school and the media told you."
africa is poor because of us ? How do you work that out I don’t suppose the type of dictators that have ruled them had any thing to do with it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yeah

Scotland should go independent "

Nobody in England will dispute this

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By *arlomaleMan
over a year ago

darlington

"Yeah

Scotland should go independent

Nobody in England will dispute this

"
how will we cope with out Scotland’s oil money ??

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

Britain is just all so wrong and fucked up!!

Anyone else think we have some fundamental issues that need addressing here in the U.K.?"

I think you are right there is much that needs addressing in the UK. However I don't think being in a country for two weeks is long enough to assess it properly and draw the conclusions that you have.

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By *earded_kent_GentMan
over a year ago

ashford

I’m seriously debating emigrating, possibly either Canada, New Zealand or Australia.

My work trade enables me to go pretty much anywhere (anywhere with a warm Climate is best for work).

This country is ridiculous, the left hand don’t know what the right hand is doing & both hands are too scared to do or say anything in case the flower brigade gets upset. The land we live in is turning into a pathetic fairy land that will eventually turn into a baron waste land!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

this is why america got it right kids should be made to pledge allegiance to the flag every morning we are an awesome country we should never have sold our empire

You think we should still have the Empire?

Who did we sell it to?"
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Sports Direct

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

Britain is just all so wrong and fucked up!!

Anyone else think we have some fundamental issues that need addressing here in the U.K.?"

And still they come...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Britain is just all so wrong and fucked up!!

Anyone else think we have some fundamental issues that need addressing here in the U.K.?"
..

asylum seekers and refugees still risk their lives trying to cross to get from France into Britain..

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

Britain is just all so wrong and fucked up!!

Anyone else think we have some fundamental issues that need addressing here in the U.K.?..

asylum seekers and refugees still risk their lives trying to cross to get from France into Britain.."

Maybe they don't like French food?

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By *entish79Man
over a year ago

Glasgow

this is why america got it right kids should be made to pledge allegiance to the flag every morning we are an awesome country we should never have sold our empire

The UK's history of oppression is good, look up our history sometime not believe the crap school and the media told you.africa is poor because of us ? How do you work that out I don’t suppose the type of dictators that have ruled them had any thing to do with it

I’m not anyone actually said that had nothing to do with it? That just sounds like you putting words in other people’s mouthes.

The whole British Empire thing didn’t magically not happen just because many African countries subsequently had dictators.

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By *entish79Man
over a year ago

Glasgow

"I’m seriously debating emigrating, possibly either Canada, New Zealand or Australia.

My work trade enables me to go pretty much anywhere (anywhere with a warm Climate is best for work).

What is the flower brigade? It sounds like some lame ass internet trope that people use to shut down any remotely sensible discussion on a subject...

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By *arlomaleMan
over a year ago

darlington

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By *tella Heels OP TV/TS
over a year ago

west here ford shire

"Yeah

Scotland should go independent

one problem, Scotland financially could not stand on its own.. but you’re always welcome to if it’s what you desire

We’d find a way. Better than being stuck in the UK

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By *tella Heels OP TV/TS
over a year ago

west here ford shire

"The problem with the UK is the benefits system

We should scrap it.

Watch the population decrease then.

Put that wasted money into our infrastructure instead.

Build a wall in the North

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"France has twice the area and half the population (ish)

We have to squeeze together a bit more

What ? You's have nearly literally the same population lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yeah

Scotland should go independent

one problem, Scotland financially could not stand on its own.. but you’re always welcome to if it’s what you desire

We’d find a way. Better than being stuck in the UK

I live in Northern Ireland. I'm English and moved here 6 years ago and would never go back.

Northern Ireland is awesome despite a handful of gangsters giving it bad press. Cruise ships from all over the world are into Belfast daily with tourists everywhere.

I vote for teaming up with Scotland and Wales creating a new UK.

An UNTIED Kingdom

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By *uenevereWoman
over a year ago

Scunthorpe

I love living in the UK and can't imagine living anywhere else.

We are incredibly lucky.

Yes, there are some things that could be better, there always are.

All countries have good and bad areas. Even the most rural areas of the UK have electricity, the vast majority have a mobile phone signal and internet access too. No so everywhere, even in Europe.

We have a good standard of living, better protection for women in respect of pregnancy and a health service that many other countries are positively jealous of, despite it's faults.

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By *r FirecrackerMan
over a year ago

London

South of France beautiful, Northern France......crack den. I have spent years in France so I know it’s good and bad parts, they have lots and lots of space hence it can seem to be much nicer than the UK.

IMO we are very a like, the French love the UK and lots of them live in the UK. However, the UK is a great place. I am well travelled and there is a good reason lots of people from all over the world want to come here.

The people that moan about it being shit are generally and I say generally ungrateful for where they live. Of course it has issues but so does everywhere else. If you are that unhappy in the UK pleas feel free to leave

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I like France I've visited several times from Bordeaux to Lyon and Nantes to Monaco.

I Will NOT be returning to Paris though any time soon, it's turned into an absolute shithole of a place that you can't even find a French restaurant in!!!!(much like London).

I'd struggle to recommend any European capital for a visit these days except for perhaps Berlin and Cardiff

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By *htcMan
over a year ago

i wont post my comment as it will upset any left member, then i get abuse from them on messages.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Britain is just all so wrong and fucked up!!

Anyone else think we have some fundamental issues that need addressing here in the U.K.?"

One million yellow vests may take the OP to task on this but personally I'd tell them not to bother because it's just another lame attempt at trolling by the guy/girl who brought us the "English bottlers" thread.

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over a year ago

Anyone else think we have some fundamental issues that need addressing here in the U.K.?

I go canaries alot, worked in Thailand, stayed in Nigeria....been loads of places.

1) no 1st ammendment

2) bias gun ownership based on privalidge

3) limited rights to self defence

4) small business enterpriese are taxed and regulated too much

5) 420 isn't legal

4 and 5 are valid points. I don't see the need for a first ammendment type thing here; gun ownership is based on a license, not privilege; and you have every right to defend yourself in a proportionate manner.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Please go back there .

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

Anyone else think we have some fundamental issues that need addressing here in the U.K.?

I go canaries alot, worked in Thailand, stayed in Nigeria....been loads of places.

1) no 1st ammendment

2) bias gun ownership based on privalidge

3) limited rights to self defence

4) small business enterpriese are taxed and regulated too much

5) 420 isn't legal

I don't see how 5 would help?

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By *V-AliceTV/TS
over a year ago

Ayr

The UK isn't what it used to be. It's not united any more.

It's not going to get any better, either.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think Britain has been going down for a long time.

I havent done much travelling myself.. However when I was in France, Belgium and the Netherlands.. What immediately struck me was how clean the towns looked and how smooth the roads were compared to the UK.

They also had better food and alcohol in general. The same goes for Ireland, but they haven't got the roads so good.

What have we got here in the UK??

Fish and chips and way over priced fuel.. And a poverty way of living in general.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Deutschland , deutschland , Uber Allen’s !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yeah

Scotland should go independent "

Fuck your kidding Nicola s nanny state first thing to go would be fab lol trust me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yeah

Scotland should go independent

Nobody in England will dispute this

how will we cope with out Scotland’s oil money ??

Yes you'll cope ok now you've had it for near 50 years robbing cunts lol

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By *lex D.Man
over a year ago

London

One to be thrown in the politics forum if you're concerned about the lack of neo-Keynesian economic policy in UK.

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By *tella Heels OP TV/TS
over a year ago

west here ford shire

"Deutschland , deutschland , Uber Allen’s ! "

Really pretty in places

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over a year ago

Anyone else think we have some fundamental issues that need addressing here in the U.K.?

I go canaries alot, worked in Thailand, stayed in Nigeria....been loads of places.

1) no 1st ammendment

2) bias gun ownership based on privalidge

3) limited rights to self defence

4) small business enterpriese are taxed and regulated too much

5) 420 isn't legal

You cannot defend yourself in a proportionate manner because you cannot routinely arm yourself for the purpose of self defence.

Howver, to suggest that 420 and guns are a good mix is insane..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I love the Uk, if you look you can find smooth roads and contentment right here too!

All large organisations are run in parts by stumbling from one crisis to the next, but outwardly getting by. Every country will have the same group of people pulling their hair out over the finer details and chaos in the ranks.

Glad you enjoyed your hols though

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By *entish79Man
over a year ago

Glasgow

"i wont post my comment as it will upset any left member, then i get abuse from them on messages. "

Why do you think it would upset people?

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By *entish79Man
over a year ago

Glasgow

Anyone else think we have some fundamental issues that need addressing here in the U.K.?

I go canaries alot, worked in Thailand, stayed in Nigeria....been loads of places.

1) no 1st ammendment

2) bias gun ownership based on privalidge

3) limited rights to self defence

4) small business enterpriese are taxed and regulated too much

5) 420 isn't legal

I just love how defenders of the 1st amendment argue that the constitution can’t be changed.

Couldn’t make it up.

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By *rwhowhatwherewhyMan
over a year ago

Aylesbury

this is why america got it right kids should be made to pledge allegiance to the flag every morning we are an awesome country we should never have sold our empire "

We didnt sell our empire, we gifted their independence after they helped us fight two (and in some cases more) pretty sizable wars. Then when we did clear out we left a lot of countries in such a pitiful state that they still lack alot of infrastructure that we take for granted every day. The whole reason the middle east is so fucked up is because of the way us and the French arbitrarily carved it up from the Ottoman empire. Face it buddy, colonialism is dead. Now with the internet and instant news we cant just go around conquering countries with flags any more.

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By *rwhowhatwherewhyMan
over a year ago

Aylesbury

Anyone else think we have some fundamental issues that need addressing here in the U.K.?

I go canaries alot, worked in Thailand, stayed in Nigeria....been loads of places.

1) no 1st ammendment

2) bias gun ownership based on privalidge

3) limited rights to self defence

4) small business enterpriese are taxed and regulated too much

5) 420 isn't legal

I don't see how 5 would help? "

Well, church attendance is at its lowest rates since probably the Roman's. I guess people need a new "opiate for the masses".

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Britain is just all so wrong and fucked up!!

Anyone else think we have some fundamental issues that need addressing here in the U.K.?"

You can't just visit one small area of a Country and compare it with the whole of Great Britain.

GB has places that rival anywhere France has to offer. Such a naive post!

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By *tella Heels OP TV/TS
over a year ago

west here ford shire

Britain is just all so wrong and fucked up!!

Anyone else think we have some fundamental issues that need addressing here in the U.K.?

You can't just visit one small area of a Country and compare it with the whole of Great Britain.

GB has places that rival anywhere France has to offer. Such a naive post! "

Really???

Hmmm that’s a little worrying if I can’t express an opinion

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

this is why america got it right kids should be made to pledge allegiance to the flag every morning we are an awesome country we should never have sold our empire

Actually we also left behind a lot they had lacked before. Very naïve to think that India for example would be the democracy it is without inheriting what it did from the UK. Realistically it's like Europe but united with a common parent language, well trained army and good legal system. Any failings are their own.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am not well travelled but I do notice how gloomy england is lately its soooooo grey too

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By *ulfilthmentMan
over a year ago

Just around the corner

"The problem with the UK is the benefits system

We should scrap it.

Watch the population decrease then."

So you’d punish all the people in full time employment who still earn fuck all and who are on benefit? How about dealing with shit employment practices and poor pay first.

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By *o_eye_deerMan
over a year ago

The South Near That London

But surely moaning, being pessimistic, oh and queuing in an orderly fashion are just part what make Britain Er British - it’s our crap weather, if we had a Mediterranean climate we’d moan less - It might even cheer the Scots up

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But surely moaning, being pessimistic, oh and queuing in an orderly fashion are just part what make Britain Er British - it’s our crap weather, if we had a Mediterranean climate we’d moan less - It might even cheer the Scots up

Nah we’d all be moaning we’re too hot then!

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By *o_eye_deerMan
over a year ago

The South Near That London

Nah we’d all be moaning we’re too hot then! "

Nah I’d be having a siesta

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over a year ago

Nah we’d all be moaning we’re too hot then!

Nah I’d be having a siesta

Perfect life. I’m off to Spain for good in the next 15 years or so. For sure

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By *o_eye_deerMan
over a year ago

The South Near That London

Nah we’d all be moaning we’re too hot then!

Nah I’d be having a siesta

Perfect life. I’m off to Spain for good in the next 15 years or so. For sure

we are considering emigrating somewhere within the next decade, maybe sooner post (whisper it) Brexit, I fancy taking the throw a dart at a map approach - wife wants to be sensible and practical

invade we end up in siberia

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By *o_eye_deerMan
over a year ago

The South Near That London

Invade lol apt typo

should have said incase

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By *entish79Man
over a year ago

Glasgow

Britain is just all so wrong and fucked up!!

Anyone else think we have some fundamental issues that need addressing here in the U.K.?

You can't just visit one small area of a Country and compare it with the whole of Great Britain.

GB has places that rival anywhere France has to offer. Such a naive post!

Really???

Hmmm that’s a little worrying if I can’t express an opinion "

No one said you can’t express an opinion.

What would be worrying would be if people couldn’t disagree with that opinion.

Do you not think it’s fair comment to point out that it’s a little unfair to compare one part of France with the whole of the UK?

I’d be pretty sure there are parts of the UK with decent roads and a decent lifestyle etc... and likewise parts of France that aren’t so nice.

Would you really disagree with that?

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over a year ago

Nah we’d all be moaning we’re too hot then!

Nah I’d be having a siesta

Perfect life. I’m off to Spain for good in the next 15 years or so. For sure

we are considering emigrating somewhere within the next decade, maybe sooner post (whisper it) Brexit, I fancy taking the throw a dart at a map approach - wife wants to be sensible and practical

invade we end up in siberia"

Yeah I’d like it to be sooner. I’m working on it. But I don’t want to have to work once I go so it will have to be a while. Siberia! No thanks

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By *entish79Man
over a year ago

Glasgow

"The problem with the UK is the benefits system

We should scrap it.

Watch the population decrease then.

So you’d punish all the people in full time employment who still earn fuck all and who are on benefit? How about dealing with shit employment practices and poor pay first."

Maybe the Universal Allowance should replace it.

The idea that it’s so expensive and inefficient to run, it’s actually cheaper and more efficient just to give everyone £5k a year.

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