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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I was talking to a mate of mine and he said schools should kids about money management. I said, they already do, it's called maths.

You dont need to be a genius to know if your outgoings are more then income.

Obviously it's easy to get a loan or credit card and then lose your job or other unfortunate circumstances. But if you're consciously spending more than you're getting then its your own fault.

And just for the people out there who like to raise arguments. I've been in debt for a lot of my life, I'm out now, because of maths.

So who's right? Is maths enough, or do kids need extra lessons

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By *uttyjonnMan
over a year ago

SEA

They need to be taught about debt, get them ready for uni

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By *uke olovingmanMan
over a year ago

Gravesend

I think that money management should be part of the maths curriculum

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maths aint enough i didnt learn to pay a bill until i owed 12k granted my maths was shit too but setting up direct debits how to invest how to save and buget would be huge for kids to learn much more important than the lessons they get now real world maths not stuff only science folks use to right formulas

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By *earded_kent_GentMan
over a year ago

ashford


"I was talking to a mate of mine and he said schools should kids about money management. I said, they already do, it's called maths.

You dont need to be a genius to know if your outgoings are more then income.

Obviously it's easy to get a loan or credit card and then lose your job or other unfortunate circumstances. But if you're consciously spending more than you're getting then its your own fault.

And just for the people out there who like to raise arguments. I've been in debt for a lot of my life, I'm out now, because of maths.

So who's right? Is maths enough, or do kids need extra lessons "

Ok so being that I have teenage kids at school, I can agree with your mate on this one I’m afraid.

There is too much crap being taught to kids they don’t really need to be taught. I honestly believe that there should be some sort of ‘life’ class that teaches them about money, mortgages, the law (on basic scales) as such like.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I was talking to a mate of mine and he said schools should kids about money management. I said, they already do, it's called maths.

You dont need to be a genius to know if your outgoings are more then income.

Obviously it's easy to get a loan or credit card and then lose your job or other unfortunate circumstances. But if you're consciously spending more than you're getting then its your own fault.

And just for the people out there who like to raise arguments. I've been in debt for a lot of my life, I'm out now, because of maths.

So who's right? Is maths enough, or do kids need extra lessons

Ok so being that I have teenage kids at school, I can agree with your mate on this one I’m afraid.

There is too much crap being taught to kids they don’t really need to be taught. I honestly believe that there should be some sort of ‘life’ class that teaches them about money, mortgages, the law (on basic scales) as such like.

"

But maths already teaches you about percentages and basic addition, multiplication etc.

That's all finances are really

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Best advice I got from my dad was: don't spend money you don't have.

I agree money management should be taught in school. Maths isn't enough. Trigonometry isn't going to balance the books and help with direct debits.

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By *uzukiNo1Woman
over a year ago

Rhyl


"I was talking to a mate of mine and he said schools should kids about money management. I said, they already do, it's called maths.

You dont need to be a genius to know if your outgoings are more then income.

Obviously it's easy to get a loan or credit card and then lose your job or other unfortunate circumstances. But if you're consciously spending more than you're getting then its your own fault.

And just for the people out there who like to raise arguments. I've been in debt for a lot of my life, I'm out now, because of maths.

So who's right? Is maths enough, or do kids need extra lessons

Ok so being that I have teenage kids at school, I can agree with your mate on this one I’m afraid.

There is too much crap being taught to kids they don’t really need to be taught. I honestly believe that there should be some sort of ‘life’ class that teaches them about money, mortgages, the law (on basic scales) as such like.

But maths already teaches you about percentages and basic addition, multiplication etc.

That's all finances are really"

It's not though is it, it's about numbers not pounds and pence......and what said pounds and pence get or don't get you....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes. Life skills should be included more for sure.

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By *r Rubba LoverMan
over a year ago

Bristol

They definitely need to understand money...its not just about maths. Yes maths lets you do all the calculations you need but they need to understand things like overdrafts not being free money and credit isnt just about borrowing and paying back. Its also about contractual responsibility, how it affects your status in the world of finance...the potential repurcussions of defaultimg...bailiffs repo men and the like. Not to memtion limitation statutes on debt recovery and when companies try to reclaim after that.. Not to mention the importance of data security so you dont get scammed or fleeced.. Also investing saving intrest rates vs inflation etc...

Money is a very complex subject... Not just a meams to buy sweets!

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By *est Wales WifeCouple
over a year ago

Near Carmarthen

I suspect you're going to get some differing opinions here and mine will not be fashionable.

What school children need is to be actually educated about how the whole economic system is designed to keep them spinning on their hamster wheels day in/day out so that they have to conform and not challenge 'the system'. A system that is designed to encourage debt to keep the corporations making money for their shareholders. A system that has seen, in the last few years, the greatest transfer of wealth upwards from the poor to the rich ever.

The sooner people are taught that they actually 'need' very little of the consumer crap they think they do, the better.

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By *V-AliceTV/TS
over a year ago

Ayr

Maths already has algebra, geometry, trigonometry, etc.

There's room for basic economics, too.

Many years ago, in Scotland, Maths wasn't compulsory but Arithmetic - which deals with all the real world stuff, the four functions, measurement and money - was.

They rolled all that into Maths in the late 80's - meaning it got way less time spent on it.

The results speak for themselves.

So, yes. Give financial management - or whatever they want to call it - the time it requires.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Shouldn’t the subject of money and debt be best taught at home with the child’s parents first off?

Even better if schools teach this as well

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By *partharmonyCouple
over a year ago

Ruislip

Maths isn't enough. It needs to be applied to money. I would completely welcome money management being taught in schools along with certain other things that generally aren't.

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By *hortarseWoman
over a year ago

Norfolk

I think parents should teach them things like that.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I think parents should teach them things like that. "

Agreed

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By *xMFM3sumsxxWoman
over a year ago

SouthWest Lancashire

They should be taught lessons.

I grew up watching my mum starve herself coz we were poor, when we were skint i stopped eating so my kids could eat.

I think they should be taught that no-one should go hungry in this day and age and if you're too poor to eat then go rob the wankers who are hoarding all the money.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Money and numbers are not 2 different things.

A very simplified example

Income

£1000 a month

Outgoings

£800 a month

You want a car on finance, its going to cost £230 a month. Can you afford it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No.

Taking loans or gambaling has never crossed my mind.

You have to do it now to buy a house.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"They should be taught lessons.

I grew up watching my mum starve herself coz we were poor, when we were skint i stopped eating so my kids could eat.

I think they should be taught that no-one should go hungry in this day and age and if you're too poor to eat then go rob the wankers who are hoarding all the money."

As I said, unfortunate circumstances happen, I've been there, my mum has as well. As bad as it is and I wouldn't wish it on anyone, no amount of education can compensate for bad luck

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maths should be a graded subject - there should be basic lessons, with options to take further maths if the kids have an interest

An accountancy option, a scientific option and the such like

The problem I have with the way it is taught is that much of it is useless, unless you go into a technical career

Trigonometry, algebra, complex equations and the likes have zero use outside of school for the majority, yet they are taught as a core subject

I think it's antiquated

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By *uzukiNo1Woman
over a year ago

Rhyl


"Money and numbers are not 2 different things.

A very simplified example

Income

£1000 a month

Outgoings

£800 a month

You want a car on finance, its going to cost £230 a month. Can you afford it?"

Well bugger me I never got that equastion in school.....extra lessons are needed cmon when did schools ever set that as an exam question?.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I suspect you're going to get some differing opinions here and mine will not be fashionable.

What school children need is to be actually educated about how the whole economic system is designed to keep them spinning on their hamster wheels day in/day out so that they have to conform and not challenge 'the system'. A system that is designed to encourage debt to keep the corporations making money for their shareholders. A system that has seen, in the last few years, the greatest transfer of wealth upwards from the poor to the rich ever.

The sooner people are taught that they actually 'need' very little of the consumer crap they think they do, the better."

Spot on

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Money and numbers are not 2 different things.

A very simplified example

Income

£1000 a month

Outgoings

£800 a month

You want a car on finance, its going to cost £230 a month. Can you afford it?

Well bugger me I never got that equastion in school.....extra lessons are needed cmon when did schools ever set that as an exam question?.....

"

It's simpler than most people think it is, it's that black and white. Spend more than what you can afford, and you're in debt

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maths isn't even about money! Being good at math doesn't mean you are good with money.

If Johnny is paid £2000 a month, pays £1000 a month rent and £300 on other bills, how much is he left with?

You telling me something like that teaches you about money? Lol

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By *uzukiNo1Woman
over a year ago

Rhyl


"Money and numbers are not 2 different things.

A very simplified example

Income

£1000 a month

Outgoings

£800 a month

You want a car on finance, its going to cost £230 a month. Can you afford it?

Well bugger me I never got that equastion in school.....extra lessons are needed cmon when did schools ever set that as an exam question?.....

It's simpler than most people think it is, it's that black and white. Spend more than what you can afford, and you're in debt"

Yeh,let's tell the kids that....sure that will get it...

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By *uzukiNo1Woman
over a year ago

Rhyl


"Money and numbers are not 2 different things.

A very simplified example

Income

£1000 a month

Outgoings

£800 a month

You want a car on finance, its going to cost £230 a month. Can you afford it?

Well bugger me I never got that equastion in school.....extra lessons are needed cmon when did schools ever set that as an exam question?.....

It's simpler than most people think it is, it's that black and white. Spend more than what you can afford, and you're in debt

Yeh,let's tell the kids that....sure that will get it..."

*They

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Maths isn't even about money! Being good at math doesn't mean you are good with money.

If Johnny is paid £2000 a month, pays £1000 a month rent and £300 on other bills, how much is he left with?

You telling me something like that teaches you about money? Lol"

Money is literally numbers, count the money in your wallet, I bet it's a number

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By *xMFM3sumsxxWoman
over a year ago

SouthWest Lancashire


"They should be taught lessons.

I grew up watching my mum starve herself coz we were poor, when we were skint i stopped eating so my kids could eat.

I think they should be taught that no-one should go hungry in this day and age and if you're too poor to eat then go rob the wankers who are hoarding all the money.

As I said, unfortunate circumstances happen, I've been there, my mum has as well. As bad as it is and I wouldn't wish it on anyone, no amount of education can compensate for bad luck"

Long term poverty isn't bad luck, the economic system causes it.

Not gonna argue with your empathy though, thanks.

Did anybody hear about Humanity Torbay recently? The woman who runs that had her car set on fire because she helps the homeless and destitute (this includes working families) -these are the kind of people our society has.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think parents should teach them things like that. "

Schools are education facilities.

Life skills are technically parental responsibility.

We rely on schools to do so much more, we water down the academic education.

Don't get me wrong If I thought schools had the resources then definitely and school days were extended then yes great, a constructive curriculum for life skills would aid all and probably give a more rounded view on everything.

Sex,lgbtq+,porn,money,depression etc.

( and yes certain items are already there. Just not covered extensively enough)

But for now it is a parental responsibility.

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By *akboyMan
over a year ago

birmingham

Extra lessons for sure. Maths is numbers + added stuff we don't ever actually use in real life. Back in school we raised the same issue but were just shutdown. It shouldn't be taught as Math but a separate subject.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Money and numbers are not 2 different things.

A very simplified example

Income

£1000 a month

Outgoings

£800 a month

You want a car on finance, its going to cost £230 a month. Can you afford it?"

Why does a person need a car worth more than £2000?

It's to get pussy or jelousy from the neighbour's.

Some people are really into playing with engines. I can let them off for spending more on a tin can.

All these superficial materialistic people (and the government) brought on the last recession.

Everyone else was forced to bail out debt that we never contributed to.

"I've got a NEW car" (the bank owns it)

Cars are so bland and dull these days. BMW with vital engine components made of plastic.

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By *oncupiscentTonyMan
over a year ago

Kent


"Money and numbers are not 2 different things.

A very simplified example

Income

£1000 a month

Outgoings

£800 a month

You want a car on finance, its going to cost £230 a month. Can you afford it?"

The car will save you a £2760 train season ticket, so can you afford it?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Money and numbers are not 2 different things.

A very simplified example

Income

£1000 a month

Outgoings

£800 a month

You want a car on finance, its going to cost £230 a month. Can you afford it?

The car will save you a £2760 train season ticket, so can you afford it?"

This guy didn't take the train, he walked

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Roughly 90% of the population will never use long devision or algebra after GCSES, 99% need to learn how to budget and pay bills.

After working in schools & with young adults, in my opinion, most of the education taught in schools today needs to be changed.

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By *abrina59TV/TS
over a year ago

moved to cuckold land

Bank staff used to go into local schools and give lessons on monehy management . But not sure with the branch closures by all the banks this still happens

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By *TheDirtyBishopMan
over a year ago

spalding

they need separate lessons

there are never any lessons on how to manage money interest rates etc.

Knowledge makes bad slaves.

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By *oncupiscentTonyMan
over a year ago

Kent


"Money and numbers are not 2 different things.

A very simplified example

Income

£1000 a month

Outgoings

£800 a month

You want a car on finance, its going to cost £230 a month. Can you afford it?

The car will save you a £2760 train season ticket, so can you afford it?

This guy didn't take the train, he walked "

So limiting his scope of employment, whereas with transport he can take a higher salary further afield increasing his income, so can he afford it?

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By *alking HeadMan
over a year ago

Bolton

Interest rates and compound interest used to be taught in the old o level maths syllabus.

So many people are saying most of the maths they teach you is useless. It isn't. Kids have to do sciences, without maths there up shit creek. Most people have probably used the maths topics that they thought were "waste of time" and haven't realised they were using it.

Basic arithmetic can be covered in a year of secondary school, what do you suggest they do with the rest of the time? You can't teach a child how to set up a direct debit, by the time they will be doing it, the methods will have changed.

It's not up to schools to teach this stuff. What next, arse wiping, shoe lace tieing and not running with scissors?

What's so wrong with parents teaching these things or even....and it's not that revolutionary... A bit of self teaching...you know, like we had to?

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By *uzukiNo1Woman
over a year ago

Rhyl


"Bank staff used to go into local schools and give lessons on monehy management . But not sure with the branch closures by all the banks this still happens"

Arhhhh yes, I think Barclays still do it....

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By *est Wales WifeCouple
over a year ago

Near Carmarthen


"

Schools are education facilities.

"

Schools are anything but 'education' facilities. The truth is that schools don't really teach anything except how to obey orders.

The first and main function of schools is not to educate but to create 'good citizens (i.e compliant and useful to the system)' It is a function which is normally called call indoctrination.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Money and numbers are not 2 different things.

A very simplified example

Income

£1000 a month

Outgoings

£800 a month

You want a car on finance, its going to cost £230 a month. Can you afford it?

The car will save you a £2760 train season ticket, so can you afford it?

This guy didn't take the train, he walked

So limiting his scope of employment, whereas with transport he can take a higher salary further afield increasing his income, so can he afford it? "

You really are trying to your hardest to disprove a simple maths question aren't you?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Interest rates and compound interest used to be taught in the old o level maths syllabus.

So many people are saying most of the maths they teach you is useless. It isn't. Kids have to do sciences, without maths there up shit creek. Most people have probably used the maths topics that they thought were "waste of time" and haven't realised they were using it.

Basic arithmetic can be covered in a year of secondary school, what do you suggest they do with the rest of the time? You can't teach a child how to set up a direct debit, by the time they will be doing it, the methods will have changed.

It's not up to schools to teach this stuff. What next, arse wiping, shoe lace tieing and not running with scissors?

What's so wrong with parents teaching these things or even....and it's not that revolutionary... A bit of self teaching...you know, like we had to?"

Exactly

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By *oncupiscentTonyMan
over a year ago

Kent


"Money and numbers are not 2 different things.

A very simplified example

Income

£1000 a month

Outgoings

£800 a month

You want a car on finance, its going to cost £230 a month. Can you afford it?

The car will save you a £2760 train season ticket, so can you afford it?

This guy didn't take the train, he walked

So limiting his scope of employment, whereas with transport he can take a higher salary further afield increasing his income, so can he afford it?

You really are trying to your hardest to disprove a simple maths question aren't you?

"

Not at all, use your 'it's simple maths' and you'll get your answer

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By *alking HeadMan
over a year ago

Bolton


"Roughly 90% of the population will never use long devision or algebra after GCSES, 99% need to learn how to budget and pay bills.

After working in schools & with young adults, in my opinion, most of the education taught in schools today needs to be changed. "

If you think most people never use algebra, you failed to grasp the concept of what algebra is.

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By *uzukiNo1Woman
over a year ago

Rhyl


"Interest rates and compound interest used to be taught in the old o level maths syllabus.

So many people are saying most of the maths they teach you is useless. It isn't. Kids have to do sciences, without maths there up shit creek. Most people have probably used the maths topics that they thought were "waste of time" and haven't realised they were using it.

Basic arithmetic can be covered in a year of secondary school, what do you suggest they do with the rest of the time? You can't teach a child how to set up a direct debit, by the time they will be doing it, the methods will have changed.

It's not up to schools to teach this stuff. What next, arse wiping, shoe lace tieing and not running with scissors?

What's so wrong with parents teaching these things or even....and it's not that revolutionary... A bit of self teaching...you know, like we had to?"

What's school for then?? Not getting the kids ready for life? No? And is not money apart of life?......agreed parents should take part but so should schools....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They definitely need to understand money...its not just about maths. Yes maths lets you do all the calculations you need but they need to understand things like overdrafts not being free money and credit isnt just about borrowing and paying back. Its also about contractual responsibility, how it affects your status in the world of finance...the potential repurcussions of defaultimg...bailiffs repo men and the like. Not to memtion limitation statutes on debt recovery and when companies try to reclaim after that.. Not to mention the importance of data security so you dont get scammed or fleeced.. Also investing saving intrest rates vs inflation etc...

Money is a very complex subject... Not just a meams to buy sweets!"

I agree with this.

If the parents are buying everything on credit cards and paying only the minimum payment each month, the kid will think it's ok to do the same. The kid learns it's ok to buy trainers and video games on credit.

Then one day the credit card runs out and they're £thousands in debt.

Also simple things like having a separate account for spending/ food money. Otherwise it's easy to forget there's more direct debits to come out and spend the money.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Interest rates and compound interest used to be taught in the old o level maths syllabus.

So many people are saying most of the maths they teach you is useless. It isn't. Kids have to do sciences, without maths there up shit creek. Most people have probably used the maths topics that they thought were "waste of time" and haven't realised they were using it.

Basic arithmetic can be covered in a year of secondary school, what do you suggest they do with the rest of the time? You can't teach a child how to set up a direct debit, by the time they will be doing it, the methods will have changed.

It's not up to schools to teach this stuff. What next, arse wiping, shoe lace tieing and not running with scissors?

What's so wrong with parents teaching these things or even....and it's not that revolutionary... A bit of self teaching...you know, like we had to?

What's school for then?? Not getting the kids ready for life? No? And is not money apart of life?......agreed parents should take part but so should schools...."

Schools teach a broad amount of subjects. Much more than most parent could teach them

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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago

..

No it’s not enough and learning about financial management is very different to just maths.

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By *uzukiNo1Woman
over a year ago

Rhyl


"Interest rates and compound interest used to be taught in the old o level maths syllabus.

So many people are saying most of the maths they teach you is useless. It isn't. Kids have to do sciences, without maths there up shit creek. Most people have probably used the maths topics that they thought were "waste of time" and haven't realised they were using it.

Basic arithmetic can be covered in a year of secondary school, what do you suggest they do with the rest of the time? You can't teach a child how to set up a direct debit, by the time they will be doing it, the methods will have changed.

It's not up to schools to teach this stuff. What next, arse wiping, shoe lace tieing and not running with scissors?

What's so wrong with parents teaching these things or even....and it's not that revolutionary... A bit of self teaching...you know, like we had to?

What's school for then?? Not getting the kids ready for life? No? And is not money apart of life?......agreed parents should take part but so should schools....

Schools teach a broad amount of subjects. Much more than most parent could teach them"

Yes, my point is money management should be taught in schools to......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think parents should teach them things like that.

Schools are education facilities.

Life skills are technically parental responsibility.

We rely on schools to do so much more, we water down the academic education.

Don't get me wrong If I thought schools had the resources then definitely and school days were extended then yes great, a constructive curriculum for life skills would aid all and probably give a more rounded view on everything.

Sex,lgbtq+,porn,money,depression etc.

( and yes certain items are already there. Just not covered extensively enough)

But for now it is a parental responsibility."

I don't agree about teaching LGBTQ in schools.

I worked in a Thai school. A considerable number of the teaching staff were transgender and half the male staff were gay.

It's really not important to pull children away from ABC with the regular teacher to have transgender story time.

Shool should do alot more fitness. They should be training them physicly so they can shut up, sit still and listern.

Or wear them out before hometime so they aren't an nightmare at home.

In Thailand my children did takwondo at 4 years old as part of the curriculum.

English children are little shits who treat school like it's a playground. It's because they don't get enough exercise and the teachers aren't allowed to discipline them propperly.

Anyway. Sex education should be a medical biology lesson about sti and skin infections.

Fetishes/sexuaities/genders...It's a distraction from really important things they should be learning.

Children don't transition before the age of 11. That nonsence never happened in the Thai school. It only happens as teenagers.

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By *eorge JetsonMan
over a year ago

Middlesbrough

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By *uzukiNo1Woman
over a year ago

Rhyl

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By *oonloverWoman
over a year ago

bognor regis

Most kids don't understand money they think they just tap a card or their phone and the can have whatever they want

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By *uzukiNo1Woman
over a year ago

Rhyl


"I think parents should teach them things like that.

Schools are education facilities.

Life skills are technically parental responsibility.

We rely on schools to do so much more, we water down the academic education.

Don't get me wrong If I thought schools had the resources then definitely and school days were extended then yes great, a constructive curriculum for life skills would aid all and probably give a more rounded view on everything.

Sex,lgbtq+,porn,money,depression etc.

( and yes certain items are already there. Just not covered extensively enough)

But for now it is a parental responsibility.

I don't agree about teaching LGBTQ in schools.

I worked in a Thai school. A considerable number of the teaching staff were transgender and half the male staff were gay.

It's really not important to pull children away from ABC with the regular teacher to have transgender story time.

Shool should do alot more fitness. They should be training them physicly so they can shut up, sit still and listern.

Or wear them out before hometime so they aren't an nightmare at home.

In Thailand my children did takwondo at 4 years old as part of the curriculum.

English children are little shits who treat school like it's a playground. It's because they don't get enough exercise and the teachers aren't allowed to discipline them propperly.

Anyway. Sex education should be a medical biology lesson about sti and skin infections.

Fetishes/sexuaities/genders...It's a distraction from really important things they should be learning.

Children don't transition before the age of 11. That nonsence never happened in the Thai school. It only happens as teenagers.

"

How dare you call English children little shits! Oh hold on I'm Welsh.....carry on....

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over a year ago

Whatever my opinions are I never spoke/speak politicly infrount of children.

The English schools have alot of indoctrinating lessons.

Teaching Muslim children this stuff also. Good luck with that...

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By *alking HeadMan
over a year ago

Bolton


"Interest rates and compound interest used to be taught in the old o level maths syllabus.

So many people are saying most of the maths they teach you is useless. It isn't. Kids have to do sciences, without maths there up shit creek. Most people have probably used the maths topics that they thought were "waste of time" and haven't realised they were using it.

Basic arithmetic can be covered in a year of secondary school, what do you suggest they do with the rest of the time? You can't teach a child how to set up a direct debit, by the time they will be doing it, the methods will have changed.

It's not up to schools to teach this stuff. What next, arse wiping, shoe lace tieing and not running with scissors?

What's so wrong with parents teaching these things or even....and it's not that revolutionary... A bit of self teaching...you know, like we had to?

What's school for then?? Not getting the kids ready for life? No? And is not money apart of life?......agreed parents should take part but so should schools....

Schools teach a broad amount of subjects. Much more than most parent could teach them

Yes, my point is money management should be taught in schools to......"

By who? Who is qualified to teach it? What other topics and subjects are going to have to be dropped to make way for it?

I fail to understand why people think schools should be teaching kids everything. If a child of 16 cannot deduce for themselves how simple arithmetic is transposed into the money they earn or are forced to borrow, then they really won't understand anything a teacher spends an afternoon teaching them about spending within their means.

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over a year ago

Kids need actual lessons on how money works and how interest rates work.

Saving and investing as well as knowing how the credit system works.

Maths is not enough.

The system is built to teach you the basics of maths but unless your from a family that understand money and teach you how to look after it children are doomed to a similar fate of their parents. If a parent is great with money the kids feed of that but if the parents are shit with money the kids will never understand it. They literally have to break the mold of their own surroundings to break free from this and that to me seems crazy when schools could include this in their curriculum and help so many avoid the pitfalls.

Given that the last 30 odd years have been built on credit society it's rare to see people who actually have wealth.

Everyone could be wealthy, but the current credit society is just another form of slavery.

To me it seems madness that schools don't have wealth planning and money management as a standard subject.

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over a year ago


"

How dare you call English children little shits! Oh hold on I'm Welsh.....carry on...."

They are little shits.

I only enjoy teaching foreign children.

I never had to hit a teenager because a teenager never hit me or ever particuly give me any attitude if I was covering for anouther teacher.

They would also batter most English teenagers in fights but they do it at the gym and not in class.

No bullying...no fights...all nice to teacher...

All the parents were equally nice and knew I wasn't the best teacher

English culture in schools and parents attitude towards teaching staff stinks!

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over a year ago


"Most kids don't understand money they think they just tap a card or their phone and the can have whatever they want"

I think phone banking apps and contactless cards are a terrible idea. People can easily lose track of how much they have spent, especially when it can take 3 days to show up on their bank statement.

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over a year ago


"Interest rates and compound interest used to be taught in the old o level maths syllabus.

So many people are saying most of the maths they teach you is useless. It isn't. Kids have to do sciences, without maths there up shit creek. Most people have probably used the maths topics that they thought were "waste of time" and haven't realised they were using it.

Basic arithmetic can be covered in a year of secondary school, what do you suggest they do with the rest of the time? You can't teach a child how to set up a direct debit, by the time they will be doing it, the methods will have changed.

It's not up to schools to teach this stuff. What next, arse wiping, shoe lace tieing and not running with scissors?

What's so wrong with parents teaching these things or even....and it's not that revolutionary... A bit of self teaching...you know, like we had to?

What's school for then?? Not getting the kids ready for life? No? And is not money apart of life?......agreed parents should take part but so should schools....

Schools teach a broad amount of subjects. Much more than most parent could teach them

Yes, my point is money management should be taught in schools to......

By who? Who is qualified to teach it? What other topics and subjects are going to have to be dropped to make way for it?

I fail to understand why people think schools should be teaching kids everything. If a child of 16 cannot deduce for themselves how simple arithmetic is transposed into the money they earn or are forced to borrow, then they really won't understand anything a teacher spends an afternoon teaching them about spending within their means.

"

They could have a finance teacher curriculum in university but choose not too.

There really should be a finance teacher in every school just like there are maths and English teachers but the powers that be don't think it's worth it.

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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago

..


"Whatever my opinions are I never spoke/speak politicly infrount of children.

The English schools have alot of indoctrinating lessons.

Teaching Muslim children this stuff also. Good luck with that..."

What lessons?

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over a year ago

Money is tought in maths...end ov

People who didn't listern were the dummies.

School is pretty irrelivant after you leave but being smart is better than being dumb in my opinion.

Fools take loans

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By *uzukiNo1Woman
over a year ago

Rhyl


"Interest rates and compound interest used to be taught in the old o level maths syllabus.

So many people are saying most of the maths they teach you is useless. It isn't. Kids have to do sciences, without maths there up shit creek. Most people have probably used the maths topics that they thought were "waste of time" and haven't realised they were using it.

Basic arithmetic can be covered in a year of secondary school, what do you suggest they do with the rest of the time? You can't teach a child how to set up a direct debit, by the time they will be doing it, the methods will have changed.

It's not up to schools to teach this stuff. What next, arse wiping, shoe lace tieing and not running with scissors?

What's so wrong with parents teaching these things or even....and it's not that revolutionary... A bit of self teaching...you know, like we had to?

What's school for then?? Not getting the kids ready for life? No? And is not money apart of life?......agreed parents should take part but so should schools....

Schools teach a broad amount of subjects. Much more than most parent could teach them

Yes, my point is money management should be taught in schools to......

By who? Who is qualified to teach it? What other topics and subjects are going to have to be dropped to make way for it?

I fail to understand why people think schools should be teaching kids everything. If a child of 16 cannot deduce for themselves how simple arithmetic is transposed into the money they earn or are forced to borrow, then they really won't understand anything a teacher spends an afternoon teaching them about spending within their means.

"

16? Why start so late?....kids need to know the value of money early on, Santa doesn't go to Argos mum and dad do.....let's be real here eh....who will do it a teacher obvs, qualified.......instead of spending money on hmmmmm let's see, building a duck bridge for Mr MP's ducks in Higher Wicomm.....

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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago

..


"Interest rates and compound interest used to be taught in the old o level maths syllabus.

So many people are saying most of the maths they teach you is useless. It isn't. Kids have to do sciences, without maths there up shit creek. Most people have probably used the maths topics that they thought were "waste of time" and haven't realised they were using it.

Basic arithmetic can be covered in a year of secondary school, what do you suggest they do with the rest of the time? You can't teach a child how to set up a direct debit, by the time they will be doing it, the methods will have changed.

It's not up to schools to teach this stuff. What next, arse wiping, shoe lace tieing and not running with scissors?

What's so wrong with parents teaching these things or even....and it's not that revolutionary... A bit of self teaching...you know, like we had to?

What's school for then?? Not getting the kids ready for life? No? And is not money apart of life?......agreed parents should take part but so should schools....

Schools teach a broad amount of subjects. Much more than most parent could teach them

Yes, my point is money management should be taught in schools to......

By who? Who is qualified to teach it? What other topics and subjects are going to have to be dropped to make way for it?

I fail to understand why people think schools should be teaching kids everything. If a child of 16 cannot deduce for themselves how simple arithmetic is transposed into the money they earn or are forced to borrow, then they really won't understand anything a teacher spends an afternoon teaching them about spending within their means.

"

They shouldn’t have to teach them everything but they should teach them the right things and this is something that should start in school and carried on out of school with parents.

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By *alking HeadMan
over a year ago

Bolton


"Kids need actual lessons on how money works and how interest rates work.

Saving and investing as well as knowing how the credit system works.

Maths is not enough.

The system is built to teach you the basics of maths but unless your from a family that understand money and teach you how to look after it children are doomed to a similar fate of their parents. If a parent is great with money the kids feed of that but if the parents are shit with money the kids will never understand it. They literally have to break the mold of their own surroundings to break free from this and that to me seems crazy when schools could include this in their curriculum and help so many avoid the pitfalls.

Given that the last 30 odd years have been built on credit society it's rare to see people who actually have wealth.

Everyone could be wealthy, but the current credit society is just another form of slavery.

To me it seems madness that schools don't have wealth planning and money management as a standard subject.

"

I think they know, for the most part, full well just how it works. But they know that as far as they are concerned and debt is pretty much unavoidable. If your paid a pittance and can hardly afford rent, food and clothes then your going to rack up debt and think "fuck em why should I care, everyone else is doing it".

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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago

..


"I think parents should teach them things like that.

Schools are education facilities.

Life skills are technically parental responsibility.

We rely on schools to do so much more, we water down the academic education.

Don't get me wrong If I thought schools had the resources then definitely and school days were extended then yes great, a constructive curriculum for life skills would aid all and probably give a more rounded view on everything.

Sex,lgbtq+,porn,money,depression etc.

( and yes certain items are already there. Just not covered extensively enough)

But for now it is a parental responsibility.

I don't agree about teaching LGBTQ in schools.

I worked in a Thai school. A considerable number of the teaching staff were transgender and half the male staff were gay.

It's really not important to pull children away from ABC with the regular teacher to have transgender story time.

Shool should do alot more fitness. They should be training them physicly so they can shut up, sit still and listern.

Or wear them out before hometime so they aren't an nightmare at home.

In Thailand my children did takwondo at 4 years old as part of the curriculum.

English children are little shits who treat school like it's a playground. It's because they don't get enough exercise and the teachers aren't allowed to discipline them propperly.

Anyway. Sex education should be a medical biology lesson about sti and skin infections.

Fetishes/sexuaities/genders...It's a distraction from really important things they should be learning.

Children don't transition before the age of 11. That nonsence never happened in the Thai school. It only happens as teenagers.

"

You have a very unpleasant turn of phrase considering you work with children.

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By *oncupiscentTonyMan
over a year ago

Kent


"Money is tought in maths...end ov

People who didn't listern were the dummies.

School is pretty irrelivant after you leave but being smart is better than being dumb in my opinion.

Fools take loans"

Is it worth taking out a loan to buy a new boiler if the boiler saves you money after 37 months?

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over a year ago

"So limiting his scope of employment, whereas with transport he can take a higher salary further afield increasing his income, so can he afford it?"

That's exactly what I did. Locally my job prospects were rubbish. I needed to travel further afield for better opportunities.

I didn't have a car and couldn't afford long term train and bus. Walking wasn't an option due to locations. So I used a loan to buy a car.

My higher wages means I can afford that car, the loan, private rent per month for my home, better things for my kids and an unexpected vet bill.

For the first time ever, I have savings! I no longer live in my overdraft.

Kids do indeed need to be taught about finances etc. Hardly any of us use algebra, trigonometry geometry etc etc in everyday life. Yet at school I was forced to learn such things. I remember my school even teaching us how to write cheques! Basic maths isn't enough. Teaching them more would be a life skill. Its educational so no it shouldn't be left entirely to parents. Just like sex education shouldn't.

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By *alking HeadMan
over a year ago

Bolton


"Interest rates and compound interest used to be taught in the old o level maths syllabus.

So many people are saying most of the maths they teach you is useless. It isn't. Kids have to do sciences, without maths there up shit creek. Most people have probably used the maths topics that they thought were "waste of time" and haven't realised they were using it.

Basic arithmetic can be covered in a year of secondary school, what do you suggest they do with the rest of the time? You can't teach a child how to set up a direct debit, by the time they will be doing it, the methods will have changed.

It's not up to schools to teach this stuff. What next, arse wiping, shoe lace tieing and not running with scissors?

What's so wrong with parents teaching these things or even....and it's not that revolutionary... A bit of self teaching...you know, like we had to?

What's school for then?? Not getting the kids ready for life? No? And is not money apart of life?......agreed parents should take part but so should schools....

Schools teach a broad amount of subjects. Much more than most parent could teach them

Yes, my point is money management should be taught in schools to......

By who? Who is qualified to teach it? What other topics and subjects are going to have to be dropped to make way for it?

I fail to understand why people think schools should be teaching kids everything. If a child of 16 cannot deduce for themselves how simple arithmetic is transposed into the money they earn or are forced to borrow, then they really won't understand anything a teacher spends an afternoon teaching them about spending within their means.

They shouldn’t have to teach them everything but they should teach them the right things and this is something that should start in school and carried on out of school with parents. "

Were you taught how to live within your means, organise direct debits and open up your first bank account to get your wages paid into, by a teacher, your parents or self taught? Just who exactly is qualified to teach this in an official capacity? How long will they spend on it? What other subjects will be dropped to fit it in? Will the teacher be paid full time for a job that takes a maximum of 12 hours per school year? It's not worth doing.

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over a year ago


"

What lessons? "

I am talking about these extra curricular lessons that are part of the callander.

Drag queen story time advertised on the news with Muslims outside protesting.

Children don't need to learn about lgbtq or Islam...

Inside one school a poster will say "pillars of islam" and in the next school a poster will say "same love different families" (lgbtq)

^^^^all this political nonsence is divisive

Children should just learn the important subjects that won't lead into identity politics

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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago

..


"Interest rates and compound interest used to be taught in the old o level maths syllabus.

So many people are saying most of the maths they teach you is useless. It isn't. Kids have to do sciences, without maths there up shit creek. Most people have probably used the maths topics that they thought were "waste of time" and haven't realised they were using it.

Basic arithmetic can be covered in a year of secondary school, what do you suggest they do with the rest of the time? You can't teach a child how to set up a direct debit, by the time they will be doing it, the methods will have changed.

It's not up to schools to teach this stuff. What next, arse wiping, shoe lace tieing and not running with scissors?

What's so wrong with parents teaching these things or even....and it's not that revolutionary... A bit of self teaching...you know, like we had to?

What's school for then?? Not getting the kids ready for life? No? And is not money apart of life?......agreed parents should take part but so should schools....

Schools teach a broad amount of subjects. Much more than most parent could teach them

Yes, my point is money management should be taught in schools to......

By who? Who is qualified to teach it? What other topics and subjects are going to have to be dropped to make way for it?

I fail to understand why people think schools should be teaching kids everything. If a child of 16 cannot deduce for themselves how simple arithmetic is transposed into the money they earn or are forced to borrow, then they really won't understand anything a teacher spends an afternoon teaching them about spending within their means.

They shouldn’t have to teach them everything but they should teach them the right things and this is something that should start in school and carried on out of school with parents.

Were you taught how to live within your means, organise direct debits and open up your first bank account to get your wages paid into, by a teacher, your parents or self taught? Just who exactly is qualified to teach this in an official capacity? How long will they spend on it? What other subjects will be dropped to fit it in? Will the teacher be paid full time for a job that takes a maximum of 12 hours per school year? It's not worth doing. "

There are many things taught under PSHE and this could be included and probably should be. It doesn’t have to be a constant throughout the year but something that is visited each year.

Mostly from my parents. And I took a course in financial management when I was 16.

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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago

..


"

What lessons?

I am talking about these extra curricular lessons that are part of the callander.

Drag queen story time advertised on the news with Muslims outside protesting.

Children don't need to learn about lgbtq or Islam...

Inside one school a poster will say "pillars of islam" and in the next school a poster will say "same love different families" (lgbtq)

^^^^all this political nonsence is divisive

Children should just learn the important subjects that won't lead into identity politics

"

So no sex ed? No PSHE?

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By *oncupiscentTonyMan
over a year ago

Kent


"That's exactly what I did. Locally my job prospects were rubbish. I needed to travel further afield for better opportunities.

I didn't have a car and couldn't afford long term train and bus. Walking wasn't an option due to locations. So I used a loan to buy a car."

Crispin's have got a 'help needed' sign in the window

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By *alking HeadMan
over a year ago

Bolton


""So limiting his scope of employment, whereas with transport he can take a higher salary further afield increasing his income, so can he afford it?"

That's exactly what I did. Locally my job prospects were rubbish. I needed to travel further afield for better opportunities.

I didn't have a car and couldn't afford long term train and bus. Walking wasn't an option due to locations. So I used a loan to buy a car.

My higher wages means I can afford that car, the loan, private rent per month for my home, better things for my kids and an unexpected vet bill.

For the first time ever, I have savings! I no longer live in my overdraft.

Kids do indeed need to be taught about finances etc. Hardly any of us use algebra, trigonometry geometry etc etc in everyday life. Yet at school I was forced to learn such things. I remember my school even teaching us how to write cheques! Basic maths isn't enough. Teaching them more would be a life skill. Its educational so no it shouldn't be left entirely to parents. Just like sex education shouldn't."

Well I'll tell you what, let's get rid of Geography, history, art RE, English lit, physics, chemistry and biology. Just teach them the 3rs, basic plumbing and electronics and they can enter the working world without any choice of what they can spend the rest of their lives doing.

You were taught, trig, algebra, calculus etc to give you the choice of studying it further. If those were not taught to you, nobody would be taking degrees in sciences or accountancy other than foreign students from schools in countries where these things are valued properly.

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By *alking HeadMan
over a year ago

Bolton


"Interest rates and compound interest used to be taught in the old o level maths syllabus.

So many people are saying most of the maths they teach you is useless. It isn't. Kids have to do sciences, without maths there up shit creek. Most people have probably used the maths topics that they thought were "waste of time" and haven't realised they were using it.

Basic arithmetic can be covered in a year of secondary school, what do you suggest they do with the rest of the time? You can't teach a child how to set up a direct debit, by the time they will be doing it, the methods will have changed.

It's not up to schools to teach this stuff. What next, arse wiping, shoe lace tieing and not running with scissors?

What's so wrong with parents teaching these things or even....and it's not that revolutionary... A bit of self teaching...you know, like we had to?

What's school for then?? Not getting the kids ready for life? No? And is not money apart of life?......agreed parents should take part but so should schools....

Schools teach a broad amount of subjects. Much more than most parent could teach them

Yes, my point is money management should be taught in schools to......

By who? Who is qualified to teach it? What other topics and subjects are going to have to be dropped to make way for it?

I fail to understand why people think schools should be teaching kids everything. If a child of 16 cannot deduce for themselves how simple arithmetic is transposed into the money they earn or are forced to borrow, then they really won't understand anything a teacher spends an afternoon teaching them about spending within their means.

They shouldn’t have to teach them everything but they should teach them the right things and this is something that should start in school and carried on out of school with parents.

Were you taught how to live within your means, organise direct debits and open up your first bank account to get your wages paid into, by a teacher, your parents or self taught? Just who exactly is qualified to teach this in an official capacity? How long will they spend on it? What other subjects will be dropped to fit it in? Will the teacher be paid full time for a job that takes a maximum of 12 hours per school year? It's not worth doing.

There are many things taught under PSHE and this could be included and probably should be. It doesn’t have to be a constant throughout the year but something that is visited each year.

Mostly from my parents. And I took a course in financial management when I was 16."

And you managed without the bailiffs visiting your parents house or being made bankrupt?

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over a year ago


"

Is it worth taking out a loan to buy a new boiler if the boiler saves you money after 37 months?"

Why can't you save money for a boiler then buy it?

You should have a rainy day bit of money saved up for these purchases.

If you want to trust banks go ahead.

I don't garontee I can pay anything even after the weekend. I've had times where I've been robbed and lost my job and home all in one week. Or got sick. I can't garontee my future.

I would need a mortgage but I think I will get something small and make the deposit large. Mortguages are boring so mine will be a quick one.

I can't think of any other lay on that's worth it.

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By *alking HeadMan
over a year ago

Bolton


""So limiting his scope of employment, whereas with transport he can take a higher salary further afield increasing his income, so can he afford it?"

That's exactly what I did. Locally my job prospects were rubbish. I needed to travel further afield for better opportunities.

I didn't have a car and couldn't afford long term train and bus. Walking wasn't an option due to locations. So I used a loan to buy a car.

My higher wages means I can afford that car, the loan, private rent per month for my home, better things for my kids and an unexpected vet bill.

For the first time ever, I have savings! I no longer live in my overdraft.

Kids do indeed need to be taught about finances etc. Hardly any of us use algebra, trigonometry geometry etc etc in everyday life. Yet at school I was forced to learn such things. I remember my school even teaching us how to write cheques! Basic maths isn't enough. Teaching them more would be a life skill. Its educational so no it shouldn't be left entirely to parents. Just like sex education shouldn't."

A bricklayer will use trig and algebra. He might not know he is though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"That's exactly what I did. Locally my job prospects were rubbish. I needed to travel further afield for better opportunities.

I didn't have a car and couldn't afford long term train and bus. Walking wasn't an option due to locations. So I used a loan to buy a car.

Crispin's have got a 'help needed' sign in the window "

Best you apply for it then.

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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago

..


""So limiting his scope of employment, whereas with transport he can take a higher salary further afield increasing his income, so can he afford it?"

That's exactly what I did. Locally my job prospects were rubbish. I needed to travel further afield for better opportunities.

I didn't have a car and couldn't afford long term train and bus. Walking wasn't an option due to locations. So I used a loan to buy a car.

My higher wages means I can afford that car, the loan, private rent per month for my home, better things for my kids and an unexpected vet bill.

For the first time ever, I have savings! I no longer live in my overdraft.

Kids do indeed need to be taught about finances etc. Hardly any of us use algebra, trigonometry geometry etc etc in everyday life. Yet at school I was forced to learn such things. I remember my school even teaching us how to write cheques! Basic maths isn't enough. Teaching them more would be a life skill. Its educational so no it shouldn't be left entirely to parents. Just like sex education shouldn't.

Well I'll tell you what, let's get rid of Geography, history, art RE, English lit, physics, chemistry and biology. Just teach them the 3rs, basic plumbing and electronics and they can enter the working world without any choice of what they can spend the rest of their lives doing.

You were taught, trig, algebra, calculus etc to give you the choice of studying it further. If those were not taught to you, nobody would be taking degrees in sciences or accountancy other than foreign students from schools in countries where these things are valued properly."

There is room in the curriculum already to teach it. There is no need to dramatically drop important subjects. Why is learning to play the recorder in groups of twenty more important than financial manage? We have to teach what is required in this day and age.

You’ve not mentioned the number of kids that aren’t toilet trained when they arrive at school or the children that can’t communicate because their parents don’t talk to them or the fact that schools are now responsible for dealing with mental health issues even though they’re not trained.

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over a year ago

Being honest my grandma is from old school Germany and for reasons unmentioned its a big part of old school German culture not to borrow money.

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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago

..


"Interest rates and compound interest used to be taught in the old o level maths syllabus.

So many people are saying most of the maths they teach you is useless. It isn't. Kids have to do sciences, without maths there up shit creek. Most people have probably used the maths topics that they thought were "waste of time" and haven't realised they were using it.

Basic arithmetic can be covered in a year of secondary school, what do you suggest they do with the rest of the time? You can't teach a child how to set up a direct debit, by the time they will be doing it, the methods will have changed.

It's not up to schools to teach this stuff. What next, arse wiping, shoe lace tieing and not running with scissors?

What's so wrong with parents teaching these things or even....and it's not that revolutionary... A bit of self teaching...you know, like we had to?

What's school for then?? Not getting the kids ready for life? No? And is not money apart of life?......agreed parents should take part but so should schools....

Schools teach a broad amount of subjects. Much more than most parent could teach them

Yes, my point is money management should be taught in schools to......

By who? Who is qualified to teach it? What other topics and subjects are going to have to be dropped to make way for it?

I fail to understand why people think schools should be teaching kids everything. If a child of 16 cannot deduce for themselves how simple arithmetic is transposed into the money they earn or are forced to borrow, then they really won't understand anything a teacher spends an afternoon teaching them about spending within their means.

They shouldn’t have to teach them everything but they should teach them the right things and this is something that should start in school and carried on out of school with parents.

Were you taught how to live within your means, organise direct debits and open up your first bank account to get your wages paid into, by a teacher, your parents or self taught? Just who exactly is qualified to teach this in an official capacity? How long will they spend on it? What other subjects will be dropped to fit it in? Will the teacher be paid full time for a job that takes a maximum of 12 hours per school year? It's not worth doing.

There are many things taught under PSHE and this could be included and probably should be. It doesn’t have to be a constant throughout the year but something that is visited each year.

Mostly from my parents. And I took a course in financial management when I was 16.

And you managed without the bailiffs visiting your parents house or being made bankrupt?"

I don’t understand your point?

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By *xMFM3sumsxxWoman
over a year ago

SouthWest Lancashire


"Why can't you save money for a boiler then buy it?

"

Poverty makes people poorer. How you supposed to save up for anything when you're going without already just to survive?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


""So limiting his scope of employment, whereas with transport he can take a higher salary further afield increasing his income, so can he afford it?"

That's exactly what I did. Locally my job prospects were rubbish. I needed to travel further afield for better opportunities.

I didn't have a car and couldn't afford long term train and bus. Walking wasn't an option due to locations. So I used a loan to buy a car.

My higher wages means I can afford that car, the loan, private rent per month for my home, better things for my kids and an unexpected vet bill.

For the first time ever, I have savings! I no longer live in my overdraft.

Kids do indeed need to be taught about finances etc. Hardly any of us use algebra, trigonometry geometry etc etc in everyday life. Yet at school I was forced to learn such things. I remember my school even teaching us how to write cheques! Basic maths isn't enough. Teaching them more would be a life skill. Its educational so no it shouldn't be left entirely to parents. Just like sex education shouldn't.

Well I'll tell you what, let's get rid of Geography, history, art RE, English lit, physics, chemistry and biology. Just teach them the 3rs, basic plumbing and electronics and they can enter the working world without any choice of what they can spend the rest of their lives doing.

You were taught, trig, algebra, calculus etc to give you the choice of studying it further. If those were not taught to you, nobody would be taking degrees in sciences or accountancy other than foreign students from schools in countries where these things are valued properly.

There is room in the curriculum already to teach it. There is no need to dramatically drop important subjects. Why is learning to play the recorder in groups of twenty more important than financial manage? We have to teach what is required in this day and age.

You’ve not mentioned the number of kids that aren’t toilet trained when they arrive at school or the children that can’t communicate because their parents don’t talk to them or the fact that schools are now responsible for dealing with mental health issues even though they’re not trained. "

Exactly. Lots of other subject's do not need dropping. Schools just need to teach what's more important. Teach better life skills.

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By *oncupiscentTonyMan
over a year ago

Kent


"

Is it worth taking out a loan to buy a new boiler if the boiler saves you money after 37 months?

Why can't you save money for a boiler then buy it?

"

What if would take me 36 months to save up to buy the boiler? Is it worth waiting longer for the fuel bill savings to cancel out the capital purchase price or to take out a loan and offset the finance costs from month 1?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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You’ve not mentioned the number of kids that aren’t toilet trained when they arrive at school or the children that can’t communicate because their parents don’t talk to them or the fact that schools are now responsible for dealing with mental health issues even though they’re not trained. "

You don't need the mental health training.

We probably work in the same environment but different roles.

The autistic kids are kept in cramped prison schools so they obviously go bonkers

Otherwise its simple a lack of discapline

Alot of the mentally ill kids are being naughty on purpose because of their snowflake status...

But ALL the mentally ill kids act up because modes schools have mad firedoors and locks and the cramped conditions with no space or exercise or noise relief/chillout space triggers them.

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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago

..


"

You’ve not mentioned the number of kids that aren’t toilet trained when they arrive at school or the children that can’t communicate because their parents don’t talk to them or the fact that schools are now responsible for dealing with mental health issues even though they’re not trained.

You don't need the mental health training.

We probably work in the same environment but different roles.

The autistic kids are kept in cramped prison schools so they obviously go bonkers

Otherwise its simple a lack of discapline

Alot of the mentally ill kids are being naughty on purpose because of their snowflake status...

But ALL the mentally ill kids act up because modes schools have mad firedoors and locks and the cramped conditions with no space or exercise or noise relief/chillout space triggers them.

"

I disagree with everything you’ve said

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

What if would take me 36 months to save up to buy the boiler? Is it worth waiting longer for the fuel bill savings to cancel out the capital purchase price or to take out a loan and offset the finance costs from month 1? "

Mathmaticly solid plan but you could get struck by unknown disaster

And that's why I would always save asside for rainy days....

It sounds like a solid plan but I don't like relying on positive futures or the economic future of the country (especially with so many inevitable conflicts brewing globally)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Recently there was a debate on the tv. The uk has the highest teenage pregnancy rate and some people wanted sex education taught at a younger age. Other people were in uproar over this.

The best answer given was “ at school I learnt long division, an ox bow lake and trigonometry and other things. Since leaving I’ve used none of that. I wish someone taught me about mortgages, apr rates, cooking and general life skills”

We should be teaching life skills as soon there will be a generation who’s parents can’t teach them that as they won’t know them themselves

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By *oncupiscentTonyMan
over a year ago

Kent


"

What if would take me 36 months to save up to buy the boiler? Is it worth waiting longer for the fuel bill savings to cancel out the capital purchase price or to take out a loan and offset the finance costs from month 1?

Mathmaticly solid plan but you could get struck by unknown disaster

And that's why I would always save asside for rainy days....

It sounds like a solid plan but I don't like relying on positive futures or the economic future of the country (especially with so many inevitable conflicts brewing globally)"

You could get struck by a runaway car but you still need to cross the road

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

I disagree with everything you’ve said "

English children are little shits compaired to thai children.

Thai children/parents don't bully eachother or the teacher.

There are no facilities for special needs or mental health in Thailand. How do you think I coped?

How do you think teachers in the 1950s coped?

Your students have better facilities and you get better training but the snowflake culture turns them into brats.

You can disagree but I have seen both sides of the argument.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Recently there was a debate on the tv. The uk has the highest teenage pregnancy rate and some people wanted sex education taught at a younger age. Other people were in uproar over this.

The best answer given was “ at school I learnt long division, an ox bow lake and trigonometry and other things. Since leaving I’ve used none of that. I wish someone taught me about mortgages, apr rates, cooking and general life skills”

We should be teaching life skills as soon there will be a generation who’s parents can’t teach them that as they won’t know them themselves "

We had sex education but it was a stupid lesson.

Like I said it should only be a medical biology lesson about infections.

Clearly people on this websight didn't have it drilled into them enough.

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By *oncupiscentTonyMan
over a year ago

Kent


"

I disagree with everything you’ve said

English children are little shits compaired to thai children.

Thai children/parents don't bully eachother or the teacher.

There are no facilities for special needs or mental health in Thailand. How do you think I coped?

How do you think teachers in the 1950s coped?

Your students have better facilities and you get better training but the snowflake culture turns them into brats.

You can disagree but I have seen both sides of the argument."

It's a well known fact that mental health didn't even exist in the 1950's and was only invented in 2017.

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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago

..


"

I disagree with everything you’ve said

English children are little shits compaired to thai children.

Thai children/parents don't bully eachother or the teacher.

There are no facilities for special needs or mental health in Thailand. How do you think I coped?

How do you think teachers in the 1950s coped?

Your students have better facilities and you get better training but the snowflake culture turns them into brats.

You can disagree but I have seen both sides of the argument."

I still don’t care for your turn of phrase. You’re offering your opinion and that’s fine. I just don’t agree with you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

I disagree with everything you’ve said

English children are little shits compaired to thai children.

Thai children/parents don't bully eachother or the teacher.

There are no facilities for special needs or mental health in Thailand. How do you think I coped?

How do you think teachers in the 1950s coped?

Your students have better facilities and you get better training but the snowflake culture turns them into brats.

You can disagree but I have seen both sides of the argument."

Oh wow

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

You’ve not mentioned the number of kids that aren’t toilet trained when they arrive at school or the children that can’t communicate because their parents don’t talk to them or the fact that schools are now responsible for dealing with mental health issues even though they’re not trained.

You don't need the mental health training.

We probably work in the same environment but different roles.

The autistic kids are kept in cramped prison schools so they obviously go bonkers

Otherwise its simple a lack of discapline

Alot of the mentally ill kids are being naughty on purpose because of their snowflake status...

But ALL the mentally ill kids act up because modes schools have mad firedoors and locks and the cramped conditions with no space or exercise or noise relief/chillout space triggers them.

"

Oh my goodness. I’m off!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

I still don’t care for your turn of phrase. You’re offering your opinion and that’s fine. I just don’t agree with you. "

Most teachers these days are marxists/feminists and socialists

Children can beat them in arguments but the teachers give them detention for it like bolshervics.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I haven't read most of the replies.

Learning to budget is a valuable lesson we should all learn at school.

Its bot just about maths.

Learning how to cook and budget for the month, interest rates on credit cards and overdrafts etc ..

Awareness of wanting stuff verses needing stuff.

Life skills should be mandatory.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

It's a well known fact that mental health didn't even exist in the 1950's and was only invented in 2017."

No. We just got better at detecting it and diagnosing it in around 2009...

Before that point roughly nobody got diagnosed and the children had to learn to be responsible themselves.

I don't care about mental health snowflakes.

I've got autism and anxiety. And I was diagnosed when I was 28.

You can still maintain class discapline. If an autistic hits you...defend yourself and lock them in a padded ventalated room and forget about them for 30 mins...

None of this "you bruised my kids arm" bullshit if the kid went psycho

Thai mentally ill kids simply don't do these things because they understand boundries/aren't locked into a confined prison space

If a teenager knows you will wack them 100% of they date to hit you they will never challenge you (and if they did in Thailand the muay thai teacher will batter them)

It's really not so toxic in Thai school though....

They never cross boundries.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Better still send them home and tell them:

"don't come back you don't deserve an education stop spoiling the lives and futures of better children"

But really it's the government and schools fault for banning the cane.

I never even had to bother using it. They just know it's in the corner and it's possible if they acted like badly brought up broken home, failed culture, English kids.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I was talking to a mate of mine and he said schools should kids about money management. I said, they already do, it's called maths.

You dont need to be a genius to know if your outgoings are more then income.

Obviously it's easy to get a loan or credit card and then lose your job or other unfortunate circumstances. But if you're consciously spending more than you're getting then its your own fault.

And just for the people out there who like to raise arguments. I've been in debt for a lot of my life, I'm out now, because of maths.

So who's right? Is maths enough, or do kids need extra lessons "

OP : did you say you were settling an argument or starting one?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I was talking to a mate of mine and he said schools should kids about money management. I said, they already do, it's called maths.

You dont need to be a genius to know if your outgoings are more then income.

Obviously it's easy to get a loan or credit card and then lose your job or other unfortunate circumstances. But if you're consciously spending more than you're getting then its your own fault.

And just for the people out there who like to raise arguments. I've been in debt for a lot of my life, I'm out now, because of maths.

So who's right? Is maths enough, or do kids need extra lessons

OP : did you say you were settling an argument or starting one? "

All went a bit tits up didn't it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

It's a well known fact that mental health didn't even exist in the 1950's and was only invented in 2017.

No. We just got better at detecting it and diagnosing it in around 2009...

Before that point roughly nobody got diagnosed and the children had to learn to be responsible themselves.

I don't care about mental health snowflakes.

I've got autism and anxiety. And I was diagnosed when I was 28.

You can still maintain class discapline. If an autistic hits you...defend yourself and lock them in a padded ventalated room and forget about them for 30 mins...

None of this "you bruised my kids arm" bullshit if the kid went psycho

Thai mentally ill kids simply don't do these things because they understand boundries/aren't locked into a confined prison space

If a teenager knows you will wack them 100% of they date to hit you they will never challenge you (and if they did in Thailand the muay thai teacher will batter them)

It's really not so toxic in Thai school though....

They never cross boundries.

"

Could you please define “mental health snowflakes”

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By *he Happy ManMan
over a year ago

Merseyside

Maths is not enough.

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By *he Happy ManMan
over a year ago

Merseyside


"

It's a well known fact that mental health didn't even exist in the 1950's and was only invented in 2017.

No. We just got better at detecting it and diagnosing it in around 2009...

Before that point roughly nobody got diagnosed and the children had to learn to be responsible themselves.

I don't care about mental health snowflakes.

I've got autism and anxiety. And I was diagnosed when I was 28.

You can still maintain class discapline. If an autistic hits you...defend yourself and lock them in a padded ventalated room and forget about them for 30 mins...

None of this "you bruised my kids arm" bullshit if the kid went psycho

Thai mentally ill kids simply don't do these things because they understand boundries/aren't locked into a confined prison space

If a teenager knows you will wack them 100% of they date to hit you they will never challenge you (and if they did in Thailand the muay thai teacher will batter them)

It's really not so toxic in Thai school though....

They never cross boundries.

"

mental health snowflakes is deeply offensive.

We ALL have mental health. Just like you can become physically unwell at aytime you can become mentally unwell at anytime.

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By *he Happy ManMan
over a year ago

Merseyside


"

It's a well known fact that mental health didn't even exist in the 1950's and was only invented in 2017.

No. We just got better at detecting it and diagnosing it in around 2009...

Before that point roughly nobody got diagnosed and the children had to learn to be responsible themselves.

I don't care about mental health snowflakes.

I've got autism and anxiety. And I was diagnosed when I was 28.

You can still maintain class discapline. If an autistic hits you...defend yourself and lock them in a padded ventalated room and forget about them for 30 mins...

None of this "you bruised my kids arm" bullshit if the kid went psycho

Thai mentally ill kids simply don't do these things because they understand boundries/aren't locked into a confined prison space

If a teenager knows you will wack them 100% of they date to hit you they will never challenge you (and if they did in Thailand the muay thai teacher will batter them)

It's really not so toxic in Thai school though....

They never cross boundries.

Could you please define “mental health snowflakes”"

I may be wrong but I think he means people who get mental health issues are weak or weak minded. It proves he knows fuck all about mental health. One day he might develop mental health issues.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

It's a well known fact that mental health didn't even exist in the 1950's and was only invented in 2017.

No. We just got better at detecting it and diagnosing it in around 2009...

Before that point roughly nobody got diagnosed and the children had to learn to be responsible themselves.

I don't care about mental health snowflakes.

I've got autism and anxiety. And I was diagnosed when I was 28.

You can still maintain class discapline. If an autistic hits you...defend yourself and lock them in a padded ventalated room and forget about them for 30 mins...

None of this "you bruised my kids arm" bullshit if the kid went psycho

Thai mentally ill kids simply don't do these things because they understand boundries/aren't locked into a confined prison space

If a teenager knows you will wack them 100% of they date to hit you they will never challenge you (and if they did in Thailand the muay thai teacher will batter them)

It's really not so toxic in Thai school though....

They never cross boundries.

Could you please define “mental health snowflakes”

I may be wrong but I think he means people who get mental health issues are weak or weak minded. It proves he knows fuck all about mental health. One day he might develop mental health issues. "

Blimey. I’ve just been reading through and I’m pretty gobsmacked at his comments to be honest.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

How the fuck did mental health come into this?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How the fuck did mental health come into this?"

That’s what I thought. I read the comments backwards. Can’t even remember what the original op was lol x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

It's a well known fact that mental health didn't even exist in the 1950's and was only invented in 2017.

No. We just got better at detecting it and diagnosing it in around 2009...

Before that point roughly nobody got diagnosed and the children had to learn to be responsible themselves.

I don't care about mental health snowflakes.

I've got autism and anxiety. And I was diagnosed when I was 28.

You can still maintain class discapline. If an autistic hits you...defend yourself and lock them in a padded ventalated room and forget about them for 30 mins...

None of this "you bruised my kids arm" bullshit if the kid went psycho

Thai mentally ill kids simply don't do these things because they understand boundries/aren't locked into a confined prison space

If a teenager knows you will wack them 100% of they date to hit you they will never challenge you (and if they did in Thailand the muay thai teacher will batter them)

It's really not so toxic in Thai school though....

They never cross boundries.

Could you please define “mental health snowflakes”

I may be wrong but I think he means people who get mental health issues are weak or weak minded. It proves he knows fuck all about mental health. One day he might develop mental health issues.

Blimey. I’ve just been reading through and I’m pretty gobsmacked at his comments to be honest. "

He doesn't half spout some shit on here.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How the fuck did mental health come into this?"

Maths.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How the fuck did mental health come into this?

Maths."

You mean meth ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How the fuck did mental health come into this?

Maths.

You mean meth ? "

No I can't spell meth

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How the fuck did mental health come into this?

Maths.

You mean meth ?

No I can't spell meth"

But can you spell it backward though?

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