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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

"A couple with four children have been kicked out of their flat, because the council alleges they spent their benefits on ‘takeaways’ rather than paying their rent. Medway Council says that Daniel Eyers, his eight-month pregnant partner Lucrezia Worrell and four children were forced out, because an investigation uncovered that they had spent £40 on takeaways every week, which resulted in them falling behind on rent payments for their flat, in Chatham, Kent.

However, Daniel, 32, says he cannot work because he needs to take his children, aged five, four and two-year-old twins, to school, and Lucrezia, 27, is set to give birth any day."

Due to the large rent arrears, the council asked for the couple's bank statements and discovered the takeaway payments.

Is this an invasion of privacy?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Pops in, has a peek, walks right out again

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They spent money on FOOD

Baby boomers like my dad think that's wasteing money and you should eat starvation ration to save money...

But really "you are what you eat"

And people who don't live healthy aren't productive.

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By *irth.Minge.FireMan
over a year ago

Seen in far off places

There were allegedly bank statement entries for Sports Direct, Asda, and high street jewellers Warren James also...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Could argue it's an invasion of privacy. But do I feel sorry for them? No, they spent money on luxuries rather than necessities. And when you've got kids, that's not a good thing

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By *SAchickWoman
over a year ago

Hillside desolate

The takeaway payments are irrelevant really, you don't pay your rent for whatever reason, you get kicked out. I'm not sure why they felt the need to investigate that far.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

Thats £160 a month. I reckon most rent is £500-£600 a month. So what happened to the other £400 or so each month. I think people like this need to go to enforced money management courses and get their debt under control. Evicting them will solve nothing they still have to be homed somewhere. But maybe a weekly budget plan that they have to stick to

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By *uzukiNo1Woman
over a year ago

Rhyl

Someone has their priorities wrong somewhere, keeping a roof over your kids heads surely to god comes before chicken foo yung....

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"There were allegedly bank statement entries for Sports Direct, Asda, and high street jewellers Warren James also..."

I didn't see that in the article I read.

Everyone needs diamonds and Nike trainers.

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By *est Wales WifeCouple
over a year ago

Near Carmarthen


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Is this an invasion of privacy?"

No more than HMRC being able to demand to see all my Income and bank accounts etc. if they wish to carry out an investigation.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Thats £160 a month. I reckon most rent is £500-£600 a month. So what happened to the other £400 or so each month. I think people like this need to go to enforced money management courses and get their debt under control. Evicting them will solve nothing they still have to be homed somewhere. But maybe a weekly budget plan that they have to stick to"

Money management courses would be a good idea for many people. Not sure how they could force people to spend on the 'right'things though.

I think they are doing life finance courses in some schools.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Pops in, has a peek, walks right out again "

Chicken

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By *uttyjonnMan
over a year ago

SEA

I assume the council need to pay for emergency accommodation, which will be more than the rent arrears.

You can't kick kids out on the street and we need to look after families in difficult times.

Some just take the piss tho

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By *icolerobbieCouple
over a year ago

walsall

Warren James high end? .... Shoddy reporting!

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By *ecadent_DevonMan
over a year ago

Okehampton

At least we now know that take-away food doesn't make you sterile, probably saved millions in an academic study.

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By *xMFM3sumsxxWoman
over a year ago

SouthWest Lancashire

Yeah it's an invasion of privacy. What they spend money on is nothing to do with them and interference. All they should be doing is working on getting them to arrange paying back the arrears or evicting them.

That's a cop out about work though, he could get a job to suit sorting out the kids, although he'll probably be worse off financially then being on benefits coz he'll have to pay for school meals...but seeing as there's a cap on 2 children now i'm not sure about the finances thing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Got off my privates

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By *hickennchipsWoman
over a year ago

up above the streets and houses

No it’s not an invasion of privacy, it’s easy to cook cheap meals... surely a roof over their children’s head comes first?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They were kicked out for the rent arrears not for eating take away. If they paid their rent then there would be no investigation. And saying you can’t work because you have kids is nonsense, I’ve had 4 kids and have worked all my life.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think the council has a right to investigate why one of its tenents couldn't make ends meet

It's not the councils role to dictate lifestyle choice

I suspect there is more to the story than has been published

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By *ersnickety PantsWoman
over a year ago

Club Meets Only

They could have done a weeks shop for £40 to feed them all then paid their rent. Keeping a roof over your children's heads is as important as feeding them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They have been evicted by a private landlord for not paying their rent, the council are refusing to put them in temporary housing because they have made themselves homeless by not paying their rent and spending the money on other non essential items. No I do not think it is an invasion of privacy, keeping a family of 6 in temporary accommodation is very expensive and it is the tax payer who foots the bill. They probably weren't worried about getting thrown out of the rented home because they thought they would get a council house. Why would the council want to house them when they have not paid their rent to a private landlord.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It’s just plain wrong.

It’s people like this that give kebobs a bad name!

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By *elma and ShaggyCouple
over a year ago

Bedworth

Unfortunately we may see this happening more and more since the changes in the benefits system have stopped rent being paid directly to landlords. Under previous rules the rent would be paid directly to landlords or into the council housing rent account but it was changed when universal credit came in. Now it’s paid monthly along with the rest of the benefits and people have to learn to budget and pay their bills in the same way as if they were working. Unfortunately for some families, like this one, they have never learned how to do that. In this type of circumstance it would be better to house them and then revert to the old method of paying the rent to the landlord

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By *xMFM3sumsxxWoman
over a year ago

SouthWest Lancashire


"They have been evicted by a private landlord for not paying their rent, the council are refusing to put them in temporary housing because they have made themselves homeless by not paying their rent and spending the money on other non essential items."

I didn't know that, interesting.


" Why would the council want to house them when they have not paid their rent to a private landlord. "

Council rents tend to be cheaper than private landlords so they might have been able to afford that rent.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Yeah it's an invasion of privacy. What they spend money on is nothing to do with them and interference. All they should be doing is working on getting them to arrange paying back the arrears or evicting them.

That's a cop out about work though, he could get a job to suit sorting out the kids, although he'll probably be worse off financially then being on benefits coz he'll have to pay for school meals...but seeing as there's a cap on 2 children now i'm not sure about the finances thing."

Perhaps the council are trying to help by determining where their money is being spent.

If it's money meant for rent but they are spending it on something else, they need to budget accordingly.

If the parents were starving and the money was being spent on bread and very basic food for the kids then they would need a different kind of help.

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By *ersnickety PantsWoman
over a year ago

Club Meets Only

It wouldn't have been an overnight thing, an eviction takes quite a while, the landlord has to give them notice & then take them to court if they haven't left. Council advise them to stay there until the bailiffs come for which the tenants are then charged bailiffs fees.

They would have been told about avenues to go down to help get on track with the rent arrears to avoid eviction such as discretionary payments through the council which is likely where they have found out about all the takeaway on their bank statements

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They have been evicted by a private landlord for not paying their rent, the council are refusing to put them in temporary housing because they have made themselves homeless by not paying their rent and spending the money on other non essential items.

I didn't know that, interesting.

Why would the council want to house them when they have not paid their rent to a private landlord.

Council rents tend to be cheaper than private landlords so they might have been able to afford that rent."

They have actually been offered a house but have refused to accept it because it is not in an area they want.

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By *xMFM3sumsxxWoman
over a year ago

SouthWest Lancashire


"They have been evicted by a private landlord for not paying their rent, the council are refusing to put them in temporary housing because they have made themselves homeless by not paying their rent and spending the money on other non essential items.

I didn't know that, interesting.

Why would the council want to house them when they have not paid their rent to a private landlord.

Council rents tend to be cheaper than private landlords so they might have been able to afford that rent.

They have actually been offered a house but have refused to accept it because it is not in an area they want. "

I read about that yeah, just no media i've seen mentioned they were being looked into for making themselves intentionally homeless.

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By *xMFM3sumsxxWoman
over a year ago

SouthWest Lancashire


"Yeah it's an invasion of privacy. What they spend money on is nothing to do with them and interference. All they should be doing is working on getting them to arrange paying back the arrears or evicting them.

That's a cop out about work though, he could get a job to suit sorting out the kids, although he'll probably be worse off financially then being on benefits coz he'll have to pay for school meals...but seeing as there's a cap on 2 children now i'm not sure about the finances thing.

Perhaps the council are trying to help by determining where their money is being spent.

If it's money meant for rent but they are spending it on something else, they need to budget accordingly.

If the parents were starving and the money was being spent on bread and very basic food for the kids then they would need a different kind of help. "

Sounds like, from another post, they were being looked into to prove they'd made themselves homeless so that the council didn't have to help them out. But even then they've been offered a home anyways.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

What's going to happen to them now?

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By *xMFM3sumsxxWoman
over a year ago

SouthWest Lancashire


"What's going to happen to them now?"

I had friends who ended up homeless by not being able to afford their rent. They ended up referred to social services, threatened with having their kids taken off them because they were going to become homeless, then the council housed them in the homeless hostel anyway and they found a private rental.

So that's one possible scenario. I reckon the couple in the news will get what they want though, people who go to the news tend to and that's why they go to the media in the first place.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"What's going to happen to them now?

I had friends who ended up homeless by not being able to afford their rent. They ended up referred to social services, threatened with having their kids taken off them because they were going to become homeless, then the council housed them in the homeless hostel anyway and they found a private rental.

So that's one possible scenario. I reckon the couple in the news will get what they want though, people who go to the news tend to and that's why they go to the media in the first place."

Yes, I think you're probably right about the last bit.

It's a tough situation for the council isn't it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Where are they going to live though.

It's all well and good getting angry about people who you feel take advantage of the system. Don't pay their share etc.

But in reality, where are the family supposed to live? Takeaways or not?

This Society doesn't work for everyone, none do. There will always be those that fall through the cracks in some way. Mentally, physically, emotionally. We're not all equal, bad patterns of behaviour emerge and not everything is as black and white as you think.

Perhaps existing debt fears are at work in a spiralling situation? ad relationship issues? Grief? Who knows? Maybe they have eating disorders that need fixing.

I seem to be a bit of a fuck up with money myself.. so not so quick to judge others for it.

I just want to know. Do I just end homeless at some point? If so.. fuck this Society! Rich people have to deal with the same problems. Difference is they can afford to get the help they need or the time off to get their shit together.

Chucking someone out on the streets. Punishing them for falling down.. be they stupid, greedy, selfish, any number of addictions, unstable, sad, lonely, isolated, depressed, alone, sometimes through no fault of their own.

Society, the way it is.. created many of this issues that unravel peoples lives and stops them from functioning at their very best.

Which is what is demanded from all of us just to survive in life. Everyone wants their slice, till we're all left with very little of what we've worked so hard for. We all deserve so much more than that. Just by virtue of being human.

I think the very richest in Society. The 1%, the Elite, the big money people.. can afford to home every single person in our country and give them a survivable income. Put up with a few people lazy enough to not work, too broken to work, slightly random workers, the strugglers and the liabilities.

There are much greater crimes committed farther up the food chain. We financial fuckups in council houses are small fry problem people.. and a minor burden to the health and well being of our society.. than the politicians and the bankers.

Like making people homeless. Just because we trip and fall over, stumble on blindly without asking for help. Or getting any when we ask for it.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"Where are they going to live though.

It's all well and good getting angry about people who you feel take advantage of the system. Don't pay their share etc.

But in reality, where are the family supposed to live? Takeaways or not?

This Society doesn't work for everyone, none do. There will always be those that fall through the cracks in some way. Mentally, physically, emotionally. We're not all equal, bad patterns of behaviour emerge and not everything is as black and white as you think.

Perhaps existing debt fears are at work in a spiralling situation? ad relationship issues? Grief? Who knows? Maybe they have eating disorders that need fixing.

I seem to be a bit of a fuck up with money myself.. so not so quick to judge others for it.

I just want to know. Do I just end homeless at some point? If so.. fuck this Society! Rich people have to deal with the same problems. Difference is they can afford to get the help they need or the time off to get their shit together.

Chucking someone out on the streets. Punishing them for falling down.. be they stupid, greedy, selfish, any number of addictions, unstable, sad, lonely, isolated, depressed, alone, sometimes through no fault of their own.

Society, the way it is.. created many of this issues that unravel peoples lives and stops them from functioning at their very best.

Which is what is demanded from all of us just to survive in life. Everyone wants their slice, till we're all left with very little of what we've worked so hard for. We all deserve so much more than that. Just by virtue of being human.

I think the very richest in Society. The 1%, the Elite, the big money people.. can afford to home every single person in our country and give them a survivable income. Put up with a few people lazy enough to not work, too broken to work, slightly random workers, the strugglers and the liabilities.

There are much greater crimes committed farther up the food chain. We financial fuckups in council houses are small fry problem people.. and a minor burden to the health and well being of our society.. than the politicians and the bankers.

Like making people homeless. Just because we trip and fall over, stumble on blindly without asking for help. Or getting any when we ask for it.

"

Well said.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

it's cheaper to solve a problem permanently. Than continually bodge the job.

I'm shit at numbers, but even my math can figure that out.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Someone has their priorities wrong somewhere, keeping a roof over your kids heads surely to god comes before chicken foo yung...."

agreed!

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral


""A couple with four children have been kicked out of their flat, because the council alleges they spent their benefits on ‘takeaways’ rather than paying their rent. Medway Council says that Daniel Eyers, his eight-month pregnant partner Lucrezia Worrell and four children were forced out, because an investigation uncovered that they had spent £40 on takeaways every week, which resulted in them falling behind on rent payments for their flat, in Chatham, Kent.

However, Daniel, 32, says he cannot work because he needs to take his children, aged five, four and two-year-old twins, to school, and Lucrezia, 27, is set to give birth any day."

Due to the large rent arrears, the council asked for the couple's bank statements and discovered the takeaway payments.

Is this an invasion of privacy?"
No they shoud have the kids taken of them for starters,no sympathy from me.These days councils do not do this without good reason as thedy do not have the staff,this must be an exeptional case

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By *unboy007Man
over a year ago

Aberdeen

GhengisKhan totally agree

Cant remember exactly the ratio of serving MPs who were millionaires

Some thing tells me it was in the high 70s

The government let the banking fraternity get us into this mess

In Iceland they jailed the bankers.

There is no easy solutions to austerity we all have to contribute to it.

Read about more and more family,s using food banks.

If the work force was payed a living wage the government would reap the benefits of more tax being payed

You read about big corporations Amazon, Starbucks to name a few paying a pittance in corporate tax

While these MPs get richer some with spouses with offshore bank accounts I have read

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I just remembered why I try and avoid mixing politics and Fab and what my triggers are for the naughty step.

*Ghengis rides away to conquer something else*

The climate isn't agreeable.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I just remembered why I try and avoid mixing politics and Fab and what my triggers are for the naughty step.

*Ghengis rides away to conquer something else*

The climate isn't agreeable. "

Exactly why I now avoid. Got fed up of the naughty step! I’m a good girl now

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By *os19Man
over a year ago

Edmonton


""A couple with four children have been kicked out of their flat, because the council alleges they spent their benefits on ‘takeaways’ rather than paying their rent. Medway Council says that Daniel Eyers, his eight-month pregnant partner Lucrezia Worrell and four children were forced out, because an investigation uncovered that they had spent £40 on takeaways every week, which resulted in them falling behind on rent payments for their flat, in Chatham, Kent.

However, Daniel, 32, says he cannot work because he needs to take his children, aged five, four and two-year-old twins, to school, and Lucrezia, 27, is set to give birth any day."

Due to the large rent arrears, the council asked for the couple's bank statements and discovered the takeaway payments.

Is this an invasion of privacy?"
. Is this an invasion of privacy.When a person makes a claim for benefits it is normal for the council or DWP to request 3 months bank statements to see if there is any income coming in and outgoings.I know it’s not easy living on benefits and yes £40 a week on take away is money that could and should have been spent doing a weekly shop at a supermarket.Also there are food banks to help when things are really hard.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


""A couple with four children have been kicked out of their flat, because the council alleges they spent their benefits on ‘takeaways’ rather than paying their rent. Medway Council says that Daniel Eyers, his eight-month pregnant partner Lucrezia Worrell and four children were forced out, because an investigation uncovered that they had spent £40 on takeaways every week, which resulted in them falling behind on rent payments for their flat, in Chatham, Kent.

However, Daniel, 32, says he cannot work because he needs to take his children, aged five, four and two-year-old twins, to school, and Lucrezia, 27, is set to give birth any day."

Due to the large rent arrears, the council asked for the couple's bank statements and discovered the takeaway payments.

Is this an invasion of privacy?. Is this an invasion of privacy.When a person makes a claim for benefits it is normal for the council or DWP to request 3 months bank statements to see if there is any income coming in and outgoings.I know it’s not easy living on benefits and yes £40 a week on take away is money that could and should have been spent doing a weekly shop at a supermarket.Also there are food banks to help when things are really hard."

You can't just turn up at a food bank.

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By *omesticated_VixenWoman
over a year ago

sw London

The council will not let someone live on the streets especially with children. They do look into whether they have made themselves intentionally homeless.

There are thousands out there homeless for bad luck/no fault of their own should they be pushed back because someone has let themselves get in that position

And being offered a house and turning it down if they are facing bring homeless accept and see about a transfer

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By *os19Man
over a year ago

Edmonton


""A couple with four children have been kicked out of their flat, because the council alleges they spent their benefits on ‘takeaways’ rather than paying their rent. Medway Council says that Daniel Eyers, his eight-month pregnant partner Lucrezia Worrell and four children were forced out, because an investigation uncovered that they had spent £40 on takeaways every week, which resulted in them falling behind on rent payments for their flat, in Chatham, Kent.

However, Daniel, 32, says he cannot work because he needs to take his children, aged five, four and two-year-old twins, to school, and Lucrezia, 27, is set to give birth any day."

Due to the large rent arrears, the council asked for the couple's bank statements and discovered the takeaway payments.

Is this an invasion of privacy?. Is this an invasion of privacy.When a person makes a claim for benefits it is normal for the council or DWP to request 3 months bank statements to see if there is any income coming in and outgoings.I know it’s not easy living on benefits and yes £40 a week on take away is money that could and should have been spent doing a weekly shop at a supermarket.Also there are food banks to help when things are really hard.

You can't just turn up at a food bank."
. True you need to food bank slip.If you go to your local jobcentre you can request given food bank slip.It’s not clear if this family are on benefits.

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By *xMFM3sumsxxWoman
over a year ago

SouthWest Lancashire


""A couple with four children have been kicked out of their flat, because the council alleges they spent their benefits on ‘takeaways’ rather than paying their rent. Medway Council says that Daniel Eyers, his eight-month pregnant partner Lucrezia Worrell and four children were forced out, because an investigation uncovered that they had spent £40 on takeaways every week, which resulted in them falling behind on rent payments for their flat, in Chatham, Kent.

However, Daniel, 32, says he cannot work because he needs to take his children, aged five, four and two-year-old twins, to school, and Lucrezia, 27, is set to give birth any day."

Due to the large rent arrears, the council asked for the couple's bank statements and discovered the takeaway payments.

Is this an invasion of privacy?. Is this an invasion of privacy.When a person makes a claim for benefits it is normal for the council or DWP to request 3 months bank statements to see if there is any income coming in and outgoings.I know it’s not easy living on benefits and yes £40 a week on take away is money that could and should have been spent doing a weekly shop at a supermarket.Also there are food banks to help when things are really hard.

You can't just turn up at a food bank.. True you need to food bank slip.If you go to your local jobcentre you can request given food bank slip.It’s not clear if this family are on benefits."

Job centre aren't allowed to give them out any more because it links benefits to poverty/food banks.

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By *he Happy ManMan
over a year ago

Merseyside


""A couple with four children have been kicked out of their flat, because the council alleges they spent their benefits on ‘takeaways’ rather than paying their rent. Medway Council says that Daniel Eyers, his eight-month pregnant partner Lucrezia Worrell and four children were forced out, because an investigation uncovered that they had spent £40 on takeaways every week, which resulted in them falling behind on rent payments for their flat, in Chatham, Kent.

However, Daniel, 32, says he cannot work because he needs to take his children, aged five, four and two-year-old twins, to school, and Lucrezia, 27, is set to give birth any day."

Due to the large rent arrears, the council asked for the couple's bank statements and discovered the takeaway payments.

Is this an invasion of privacy?"

Welcome to George Orwell's 1984.

It's a massive invasion of privacy. Are all people who are unemployed soon to have to show what they spend their money on?

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By *xMFM3sumsxxWoman
over a year ago

SouthWest Lancashire


"What's going to happen to them now?

I had friends who ended up homeless by not being able to afford their rent. They ended up referred to social services, threatened with having their kids taken off them because they were going to become homeless, then the council housed them in the homeless hostel anyway and they found a private rental.

So that's one possible scenario. I reckon the couple in the news will get what they want though, people who go to the news tend to and that's why they go to the media in the first place.

Yes, I think you're probably right about the last bit.

It's a tough situation for the council isn't it"

Kind of tough, they're definitely short on money these days and have always been short on housing. But they have the ability to house this couple if they want to, the 'intentionally homeless' thing is stupid and they can choose to ignore it because it isn't the law or anything.

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By *os19Man
over a year ago

Edmonton


""A couple with four children have been kicked out of their flat, because the council alleges they spent their benefits on ‘takeaways’ rather than paying their rent. Medway Council says that Daniel Eyers, his eight-month pregnant partner Lucrezia Worrell and four children were forced out, because an investigation uncovered that they had spent £40 on takeaways every week, which resulted in them falling behind on rent payments for their flat, in Chatham, Kent.

However, Daniel, 32, says he cannot work because he needs to take his children, aged five, four and two-year-old twins, to school, and Lucrezia, 27, is set to give birth any day."

Due to the large rent arrears, the council asked for the couple's bank statements and discovered the takeaway payments.

Is this an invasion of privacy?. Is this an invasion of privacy.When a person makes a claim for benefits it is normal for the council or DWP to request 3 months bank statements to see if there is any income coming in and outgoings.I know it’s not easy living on benefits and yes £40 a week on take away is money that could and should have been spent doing a weekly shop at a supermarket.Also there are food banks to help when things are really hard.

You can't just turn up at a food bank.. True you need to food bank slip.If you go to your local jobcentre you can request given food bank slip.It’s not clear if this family are on benefits.

Job centre aren't allowed to give them out any more because it links benefits to poverty/food banks."
. Food bank vouchers no the job centre do not give them out. Food bank slips which is a letter which can be taken to the food bank.The food bank then decide to issue food.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If they were on benefits you can make arrangement to have your rent paid directly to the council so no need to get into arrears

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By *xMFM3sumsxxWoman
over a year ago

SouthWest Lancashire


""A couple with four children have been kicked out of their flat, because the council alleges they spent their benefits on ‘takeaways’ rather than paying their rent. Medway Council says that Daniel Eyers, his eight-month pregnant partner Lucrezia Worrell and four children were forced out, because an investigation uncovered that they had spent £40 on takeaways every week, which resulted in them falling behind on rent payments for their flat, in Chatham, Kent.

However, Daniel, 32, says he cannot work because he needs to take his children, aged five, four and two-year-old twins, to school, and Lucrezia, 27, is set to give birth any day."

Due to the large rent arrears, the council asked for the couple's bank statements and discovered the takeaway payments.

Is this an invasion of privacy?

Welcome to George Orwell's 1984.

It's a massive invasion of privacy. Are all people who are unemployed soon to have to show what they spend their money on? "

I applied for DLA for someone a while back and yes i did have to fill in a form asking how much was spent on what. I just made up numbers though coz i had no idea what to put lol.

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over a year ago


""A couple with four children have been kicked out of their flat, because the council alleges they spent their benefits on ‘takeaways’ rather than paying their rent. Medway Council says that Daniel Eyers, his eight-month pregnant partner Lucrezia Worrell and four children were forced out, because an investigation uncovered that they had spent £40 on takeaways every week, which resulted in them falling behind on rent payments for their flat, in Chatham, Kent.

However, Daniel, 32, says he cannot work because he needs to take his children, aged five, four and two-year-old twins, to school, and Lucrezia, 27, is set to give birth any day."

Due to the large rent arrears, the council asked for the couple's bank statements and discovered the takeaway payments.

Is this an invasion of privacy?

Welcome to George Orwell's 1984.

It's a massive invasion of privacy. Are all people who are unemployed soon to have to show what they spend their money on?

I applied for DLA for someone a while back and yes i did have to fill in a form asking how much was spent on what. I just made up numbers though coz i had no idea what to put lol."

Not sure why as DLA is one of the only things that isn’t means tested.

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By *xMFM3sumsxxWoman
over a year ago

SouthWest Lancashire


""A couple with four children have been kicked out of their flat, because the council alleges they spent their benefits on ‘takeaways’ rather than paying their rent. Medway Council says that Daniel Eyers, his eight-month pregnant partner Lucrezia Worrell and four children were forced out, because an investigation uncovered that they had spent £40 on takeaways every week, which resulted in them falling behind on rent payments for their flat, in Chatham, Kent.

However, Daniel, 32, says he cannot work because he needs to take his children, aged five, four and two-year-old twins, to school, and Lucrezia, 27, is set to give birth any day."

Due to the large rent arrears, the council asked for the couple's bank statements and discovered the takeaway payments.

Is this an invasion of privacy?

Welcome to George Orwell's 1984.

It's a massive invasion of privacy. Are all people who are unemployed soon to have to show what they spend their money on?

I applied for DLA for someone a while back and yes i did have to fill in a form asking how much was spent on what. I just made up numbers though coz i had no idea what to put lol.

Not sure why as DLA is one of the only things that isn’t means tested. "

Dunno either. Child benefit was brought out as an additional income for rich people as a way of them paying less tax so maybe the same applies here?

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over a year ago


""A couple with four children have been kicked out of their flat, because the council alleges they spent their benefits on ‘takeaways’ rather than paying their rent. Medway Council says that Daniel Eyers, his eight-month pregnant partner Lucrezia Worrell and four children were forced out, because an investigation uncovered that they had spent £40 on takeaways every week, which resulted in them falling behind on rent payments for their flat, in Chatham, Kent.

However, Daniel, 32, says he cannot work because he needs to take his children, aged five, four and two-year-old twins, to school, and Lucrezia, 27, is set to give birth any day."

Due to the large rent arrears, the council asked for the couple's bank statements and discovered the takeaway payments.

Is this an invasion of privacy?

Welcome to George Orwell's 1984.

It's a massive invasion of privacy. Are all people who are unemployed soon to have to show what they spend their money on?

I applied for DLA for someone a while back and yes i did have to fill in a form asking how much was spent on what. I just made up numbers though coz i had no idea what to put lol.

Not sure why as DLA is one of the only things that isn’t means tested.

Dunno either. Child benefit was brought out as an additional income for rich people as a way of them paying less tax so maybe the same applies here?"

Sorry. I don’t understand what you mean there?

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By *xMFM3sumsxxWoman
over a year ago

SouthWest Lancashire


"Dunno either. Child benefit was brought out as an additional income for rich people as a way of them paying less tax so maybe the same applies here?

Sorry. I don’t understand what you mean there?"

Child benefit wasn't brought out to help the poor, it was brought out so that rich people got some of their tax back. Nobody poor got it initially.

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over a year ago


"Dunno either. Child benefit was brought out as an additional income for rich people as a way of them paying less tax so maybe the same applies here?

Sorry. I don’t understand what you mean there?

Child benefit wasn't brought out to help the poor, it was brought out so that rich people got some of their tax back. Nobody poor got it initially."

Child benefit was originally called family allowance and everyone got it. Where did you get that info from? And if it was true how would that work with the same with DLA? Child benefit is means tested now. DLA isn’t.

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over a year ago


"Dunno either. Child benefit was brought out as an additional income for rich people as a way of them paying less tax so maybe the same applies here?

Sorry. I don’t understand what you mean there?

Child benefit wasn't brought out to help the poor, it was brought out so that rich people got some of their tax back. Nobody poor got it initially.

Child benefit was originally called family allowance and everyone got it. Where did you get that info from? And if it was true how would that work with the same with DLA? Child benefit is means tested now. DLA isn’t. "

And how would it help someone get their tax back? I’m confused

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By *xMFM3sumsxxWoman
over a year ago

SouthWest Lancashire


"Dunno either. Child benefit was brought out as an additional income for rich people as a way of them paying less tax so maybe the same applies here?

Sorry. I don’t understand what you mean there?

Child benefit wasn't brought out to help the poor, it was brought out so that rich people got some of their tax back. Nobody poor got it initially.

Child benefit was originally called family allowance and everyone got it. Where did you get that info from? And if it was true how would that work with the same with DLA? Child benefit is means tested now. DLA isn’t.

And how would it help someone get their tax back? I’m confused "

They got given money every week.

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By *adyJayneWoman
over a year ago

Burnleyish (She/They)

While for people posting it might seem easy to think "but for £40 you cook.."

What is harder to grasp is how it's not as simple as making bad choices, it's often a lack of education that results in an inabily to make informed choices in the first place.

I have volunteered at a local food bank who have had to start providing recipie cards and basic instructions because people don't have the knowledge of how to cook.

Poverty in the UK is a massive problem and it's not got a simple cause or solution, dealing with it requires compassion and a willingness to look beyond assumptions.

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over a year ago


"Dunno either. Child benefit was brought out as an additional income for rich people as a way of them paying less tax so maybe the same applies here?

Sorry. I don’t understand what you mean there?

Child benefit wasn't brought out to help the poor, it was brought out so that rich people got some of their tax back. Nobody poor got it initially.

Child benefit was originally called family allowance and everyone got it. Where did you get that info from? And if it was true how would that work with the same with DLA? Child benefit is means tested now. DLA isn’t.

And how would it help someone get their tax back? I’m confused

They got given money every week. "

But how would that help someone get their tax back? Are you confusing child benefit with childcare vouchers? That affects tax as it comes out of the salary before tax is paid, therefore being a great saving especially for people paying 40% tax

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over a year ago

I work with familys that often find themselves in difficultly like this.

Whilst it seems like this family made their bed so should lie in it, I guarantee there is more to this.

Not everyone has the skills and or compitance to manage life skills.

It's easy to judge and I don't blame people but often when you know more it's a different story. It sounds like they are not helping themselves but rather than judgement and being made homeless what they need is support.

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By *xMFM3sumsxxWoman
over a year ago

SouthWest Lancashire


"Dunno either. Child benefit was brought out as an additional income for rich people as a way of them paying less tax so maybe the same applies here?

Sorry. I don’t understand what you mean there?

Child benefit wasn't brought out to help the poor, it was brought out so that rich people got some of their tax back. Nobody poor got it initially.

Child benefit was originally called family allowance and everyone got it. Where did you get that info from? And if it was true how would that work with the same with DLA? Child benefit is means tested now. DLA isn’t.

And how would it help someone get their tax back? I’m confused

They got given money every week.

But how would that help someone get their tax back? Are you confusing child benefit with childcare vouchers? That affects tax as it comes out of the salary before tax is paid, therefore being a great saving especially for people paying 40% tax "

No, i'm talking about way back when they were FIRST* introduced (end of the 1800s). They changed the name to Child Tax Allowance eventually to give you an idea of what i mean.

*Not shouting.

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over a year ago


""A couple with four children have been kicked out of their flat, because the council alleges they spent their benefits on ‘takeaways’ rather than paying their rent. Medway Council says that Daniel Eyers, his eight-month pregnant partner Lucrezia Worrell and four children were forced out, because an investigation uncovered that they had spent £40 on takeaways every week, which resulted in them falling behind on rent payments for their flat, in Chatham, Kent.

However, Daniel, 32, says he cannot work because he needs to take his children, aged five, four and two-year-old twins, to school, and Lucrezia, 27, is set to give birth any day."

Due to the large rent arrears, the council asked for the couple's bank statements and discovered the takeaway payments.

Is this an invasion of privacy?No they shoud have the kids taken of them for starters,no sympathy from me.These days councils do not do this without good reason as thedy do not have the staff,this must be an exeptional case"

It's not exceptional. The numbers being evicted are at record levels.

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over a year ago


"Dunno either. Child benefit was brought out as an additional income for rich people as a way of them paying less tax so maybe the same applies here?

Sorry. I don’t understand what you mean there?

Child benefit wasn't brought out to help the poor, it was brought out so that rich people got some of their tax back. Nobody poor got it initially.

Child benefit was originally called family allowance and everyone got it. Where did you get that info from? And if it was true how would that work with the same with DLA? Child benefit is means tested now. DLA isn’t.

And how would it help someone get their tax back? I’m confused

They got given money every week.

But how would that help someone get their tax back? Are you confusing child benefit with childcare vouchers? That affects tax as it comes out of the salary before tax is paid, therefore being a great saving especially for people paying 40% tax

No, i'm talking about way back when they were FIRST* introduced (end of the 1800s). They changed the name to Child Tax Allowance eventually to give you an idea of what i mean.

*Not shouting."

Ok that does ring a bell. Like married man’s allowance etc. I thought it was for everyone though.

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By *xMFM3sumsxxWoman
over a year ago

SouthWest Lancashire


"Dunno either. Child benefit was brought out as an additional income for rich people as a way of them paying less tax so maybe the same applies here?

Sorry. I don’t understand what you mean there?

Child benefit wasn't brought out to help the poor, it was brought out so that rich people got some of their tax back. Nobody poor got it initially.

Child benefit was originally called family allowance and everyone got it. Where did you get that info from? And if it was true how would that work with the same with DLA? Child benefit is means tested now. DLA isn’t.

And how would it help someone get their tax back? I’m confused

They got given money every week.

But how would that help someone get their tax back? Are you confusing child benefit with childcare vouchers? That affects tax as it comes out of the salary before tax is paid, therefore being a great saving especially for people paying 40% tax

No, i'm talking about way back when they were FIRST* introduced (end of the 1800s). They changed the name to Child Tax Allowance eventually to give you an idea of what i mean.

*Not shouting.

Ok that does ring a bell. Like married man’s allowance etc. I thought it was for everyone though. "

Well conservatives got rid of it for the highest earners nowadays but when it first came out it was only for the very rich and the richer you were the more they paid you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Dunno either. Child benefit was brought out as an additional income for rich people as a way of them paying less tax so maybe the same applies here?

Sorry. I don’t understand what you mean there?

Child benefit wasn't brought out to help the poor, it was brought out so that rich people got some of their tax back. Nobody poor got it initially.

Child benefit was originally called family allowance and everyone got it. Where did you get that info from? And if it was true how would that work with the same with DLA? Child benefit is means tested now. DLA isn’t.

And how would it help someone get their tax back? I’m confused

They got given money every week.

But how would that help someone get their tax back? Are you confusing child benefit with childcare vouchers? That affects tax as it comes out of the salary before tax is paid, therefore being a great saving especially for people paying 40% tax

No, i'm talking about way back when they were FIRST* introduced (end of the 1800s). They changed the name to Child Tax Allowance eventually to give you an idea of what i mean.

*Not shouting.

Ok that does ring a bell. Like married man’s allowance etc. I thought it was for everyone though.

Well conservatives got rid of it for the highest earners nowadays but when it first came out it was only for the very rich and the richer you were the more they paid you. "

I must admit I never understood why everyone got child benefit. Why should they? I mean none of us are going to turn it down obviously but I agree that should be means tested. But I think DLA is a different thing altogether to be honest.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"While for people posting it might seem easy to think "but for £40 you cook.."

What is harder to grasp is how it's not as simple as making bad choices, it's often a lack of education that results in an inabily to make informed choices in the first place.

I have volunteered at a local food bank who have had to start providing recipie cards and basic instructions because people don't have the knowledge of how to cook.

Poverty in the UK is a massive problem and it's not got a simple cause or solution, dealing with it requires compassion and a willingness to look beyond assumptions."

Recipe cards.

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By *ig1gaz1Man
over a year ago

bradford

dwp have a online form that has a tick box with dla in it not to be connected to your driving license.

if you miss this tick box you will get questions about dla.

dwp dont send people to food banks as an internal memo sent by dwp stated stop referral to food banks as dwp dosnt want to be associated with referrals.

the family refused a new home as wasnt in there area this is refusal of an offer of a home as wasnt in there desired area to live a sign of intentional homelesss.

rental payments are paid to the recipients to pay there own rent only in exceptional circumstances will it be paid direct.

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By *os19Man
over a year ago

Edmonton


"dwp have a online form that has a tick box with dla in it not to be connected to your driving license.

if you miss this tick box you will get questions about dla.

dwp dont send people to food banks as an internal memo sent by dwp stated stop referral to food banks as dwp dosnt want to be associated with referrals.

the family refused a new home as wasnt in there area this is refusal of an offer of a home as wasnt in there desired area to live a sign of intentional homelesss.

rental payments are paid to the recipients to pay there own rent only in exceptional circumstances will it be paid direct."
. With regards to DWP & Food Bank perhaps it’s a North London thing but the job centres do issue a food bank slip which a claimant can take to the local food bank who’s address is on the food bank slip.These can also be issued to non claimants.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"dwp have a online form that has a tick box with dla in it not to be connected to your driving license.

if you miss this tick box you will get questions about dla.

dwp dont send people to food banks as an internal memo sent by dwp stated stop referral to food banks as dwp dosnt want to be associated with referrals.

the family refused a new home as wasnt in there area this is refusal of an offer of a home as wasnt in there desired area to live a sign of intentional homelesss.

rental payments are paid to the recipients to pay there own rent only in exceptional circumstances will it be paid direct."

DLA has absolutely nothing to do with benefits etc

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"dwp have a online form that has a tick box with dla in it not to be connected to your driving license.

if you miss this tick box you will get questions about dla.

dwp dont send people to food banks as an internal memo sent by dwp stated stop referral to food banks as dwp dosnt want to be associated with referrals.

the family refused a new home as wasnt in there area this is refusal of an offer of a home as wasnt in there desired area to live a sign of intentional homelesss.

rental payments are paid to the recipients to pay there own rent only in exceptional circumstances will it be paid direct.

DLA has absolutely nothing to do with benefits etc "

Yes as its not means tested, millionaires can get it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"dwp have a online form that has a tick box with dla in it not to be connected to your driving license.

if you miss this tick box you will get questions about dla.

dwp dont send people to food banks as an internal memo sent by dwp stated stop referral to food banks as dwp dosnt want to be associated with referrals.

the family refused a new home as wasnt in there area this is refusal of an offer of a home as wasnt in there desired area to live a sign of intentional homelesss.

rental payments are paid to the recipients to pay there own rent only in exceptional circumstances will it be paid direct.

DLA has absolutely nothing to do with benefits etc

Yes as its not means tested, millionaires can get it.

"

It's called PIP (personl independence payment) now.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"dwp have a online form that has a tick box with dla in it not to be connected to your driving license.

if you miss this tick box you will get questions about dla.

dwp dont send people to food banks as an internal memo sent by dwp stated stop referral to food banks as dwp dosnt want to be associated with referrals.

the family refused a new home as wasnt in there area this is refusal of an offer of a home as wasnt in there desired area to live a sign of intentional homelesss.

rental payments are paid to the recipients to pay there own rent only in exceptional circumstances will it be paid direct.

DLA has absolutely nothing to do with benefits etc

Yes as its not means tested, millionaires can get it.

It's called PIP (personl independence payment) now. "

Has been for adults for a while. It’s just changed for children too x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"dwp have a online form that has a tick box with dla in it not to be connected to your driving license.

if you miss this tick box you will get questions about dla.

dwp dont send people to food banks as an internal memo sent by dwp stated stop referral to food banks as dwp dosnt want to be associated with referrals.

the family refused a new home as wasnt in there area this is refusal of an offer of a home as wasnt in there desired area to live a sign of intentional homelesss.

rental payments are paid to the recipients to pay there own rent only in exceptional circumstances will it be paid direct.

DLA has absolutely nothing to do with benefits etc

Yes as its not means tested, millionaires can get it.

It's called PIP (personl independence payment) now.

Has been for adults for a while. It’s just changed for children too x"

I think PIP is fairer and the form and process is better for people with non physical issues. X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm assuming the bank statements were asked for as part of an investigation in to why they were receiving housing benefits yet not pating their rent. I don't think that's unreasonable. And I'd question the wisdom of sending money on takeaways over rent given the implications of non payment.

But the real issue here is the lack of social housing, the lack of affordable rental properties, benefits that leave people in poverty. Stigmatising a couple who are clearly not the brightest and were daft enough to think the media would support them isn't going to change what us a much wider issue

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"dwp have a online form that has a tick box with dla in it not to be connected to your driving license.

if you miss this tick box you will get questions about dla.

dwp dont send people to food banks as an internal memo sent by dwp stated stop referral to food banks as dwp dosnt want to be associated with referrals.

the family refused a new home as wasnt in there area this is refusal of an offer of a home as wasnt in there desired area to live a sign of intentional homelesss.

rental payments are paid to the recipients to pay there own rent only in exceptional circumstances will it be paid direct.

DLA has absolutely nothing to do with benefits etc

Yes as its not means tested, millionaires can get it.

It's called PIP (personl independence payment) now.

Has been for adults for a while. It’s just changed for children too x

I think PIP is fairer and the form and process is better for people with non physical issues. X"

I haven’t had to deal with it yet. My child gets it till they’re 12 so I guess I will then.

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By *adyJayneWoman
over a year ago

Burnleyish (She/They)


"While for people posting it might seem easy to think "but for £40 you cook.."

What is harder to grasp is how it's not as simple as making bad choices, it's often a lack of education that results in an inabily to make informed choices in the first place.

I have volunteered at a local food bank who have had to start providing recipie cards and basic instructions because people don't have the knowledge of how to cook.

Poverty in the UK is a massive problem and it's not got a simple cause or solution, dealing with it requires compassion and a willingness to look beyond assumptions.

Recipe cards. "

Is that at my spelling or the fact we have to give them out?

Both pretty shocking I know!

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By *ig1gaz1Man
over a year ago

bradford


"rental payments are paid to the recipients to pay there own rent only in exceptional circumstances will it be paid direct.. With regards to DWP & Food Bank perhaps it’s a North London thing but the job centres do issue a food bank slip which a claimant can take to the local food bank who’s address is on the food bank slip.These can also be issued to non claimants."

the correct memo

A DWP directive tells staff they must not use the term “referral” or “voucher” and should not keep any record of the number of people they “signpost” to foodbanks.

dwp Department’s ‘Operational Instructions’ were obtained and the information is within there

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You have to provide up to 6 months bank statements when you apply for housing and prove you have nothing in your bank and haven't had for a number of months, to determine whether you can qualify for housing benefit too... It is nothing new but what you spend your money on should be none of their business... If it had been booze then they probably woulda been fine and offered help

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By *ig1gaz1Man
over a year ago

bradford


"DLA has absolutely nothing to do with benefits etc

Yes as its not means tested, millionaires can get it.

It's called PIP (personl independence payment) now. "

sorry crossed wires on that one, mistaken for dvla instead of dla disability living allowance.

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By *os19Man
over a year ago

Edmonton


"rental payments are paid to the recipients to pay there own rent only in exceptional circumstances will it be paid direct.. With regards to DWP & Food Bank perhaps it’s a North London thing but the job centres do issue a food bank slip which a claimant can take to the local food bank who’s address is on the food bank slip.These can also be issued to non claimants.

the correct memo

A DWP directive tells staff they must not use the term “referral” or “voucher” and should not keep any record of the number of people they “signpost” to foodbanks.

dwp Department’s ‘Operational Instructions’ were obtained and the information is within there"
. Which is why it’s called a food bank slip and not a voucher or referral.The food bank then make the decision for a voucher or referral

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"rental payments are paid to the recipients to pay there own rent only in exceptional circumstances will it be paid direct.. With regards to DWP & Food Bank perhaps it’s a North London thing but the job centres do issue a food bank slip which a claimant can take to the local food bank who’s address is on the food bank slip.These can also be issued to non claimants.

the correct memo

A DWP directive tells staff they must not use the term “referral” or “voucher” and should not keep any record of the number of people they “signpost” to foodbanks.

dwp Department’s ‘Operational Instructions’ were obtained and the information is within there. Which is why it’s called a food bank slip and not a voucher or referral.The food bank then make the decision for a voucher or referral "

No they don't. Jobcentres can't not give out vouchers and food banks need a voucher to issue food.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"While for people posting it might seem easy to think "but for £40 you cook.."

What is harder to grasp is how it's not as simple as making bad choices, it's often a lack of education that results in an inabily to make informed choices in the first place.

I have volunteered at a local food bank who have had to start providing recipie cards and basic instructions because people don't have the knowledge of how to cook.

Poverty in the UK is a massive problem and it's not got a simple cause or solution, dealing with it requires compassion and a willingness to look beyond assumptions.

Recipe cards.

Is that at my spelling or the fact we have to give them out?

Both pretty shocking I know! "

I hadn't even noticed the spelling, sorry. No I meant the fact they had to give them out.

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By *ig1gaz1Man
over a year ago

bradford

some good cook book cheap food recipes can be got from

both books are by monroe

cooking on a boot strap

tin can cook

Jack Monroe appeal sends thousands of cookbooks to food banks

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By *r MoriartyMan
over a year ago

The Land that time forgot (Norfolk)


"Someone has their priorities wrong somewhere, keeping a roof over your kids heads surely to god comes before chicken foo yung...."

Obviously couldn't resist the Cream of Sumyung Guy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It isn't an invasion of privacy in my view.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

Isn't there something wrong somewhere when the most disadvantaged people are required to lay bare their finances and suffer sanctions if public money given to them as benefits is deemed by officialdom to have been misspent yet Chris Grayling can play fast and loose with £86 million of public money and still have a job?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Isn't there something wrong somewhere when the most disadvantaged people are required to lay bare their finances and suffer sanctions if public money given to them as benefits is deemed by officialdom to have been misspent yet Chris Grayling can play fast and loose with £86 million of public money and still have a job? "

Exactly.

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By *hetalkingstoveMan
over a year ago

London


"Isn't there something wrong somewhere when the most disadvantaged people are required to lay bare their finances and suffer sanctions if public money given to them as benefits is deemed by officialdom to have been misspent yet Chris Grayling can play fast and loose with £86 million of public money and still have a job? "

It's gross.

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By *os19Man
over a year ago

Edmonton


"Isn't there something wrong somewhere when the most disadvantaged people are required to lay bare their finances and suffer sanctions if public money given to them as benefits is deemed by officialdom to have been misspent yet Chris Grayling can play fast and loose with £86 million of public money and still have a job? "
. It’s not fair the rich get richer and the poor get poorer

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

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"Isn't there something wrong somewhere when the most disadvantaged people are required to lay bare their finances and suffer sanctions if public money given to them as benefits is deemed by officialdom to have been misspent yet Chris Grayling can play fast and loose with £86 million of public money and still have a job? . It’s not fair the rich get richer and the poor get poorer "

It's not fair that certain sections of society are demonised by nearly everyone.

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over a year ago


""A couple with four children have been kicked out of their flat, because the council alleges they spent their benefits on ‘takeaways’ rather than paying their rent. Medway Council says that Daniel Eyers, his eight-month pregnant partner Lucrezia Worrell and four children were forced out, because an investigation uncovered that they had spent £40 on takeaways every week, which resulted in them falling behind on rent payments for their flat, in Chatham, Kent.

However, Daniel, 32, says he cannot work because he needs to take his children, aged five, four and two-year-old twins, to school, and Lucrezia, 27, is set to give birth any day."

Due to the large rent arrears, the council asked for the couple's bank statements and discovered the takeaway payments.

Is this an invasion of privacy?"

the dwp can ask to see bank statements at any time

so can housing benefit

if you are caught not paying your rent then you will end up in jail

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over a year ago


""A couple with four children have been kicked out of their flat, because the council alleges they spent their benefits on ‘takeaways’ rather than paying their rent. Medway Council says that Daniel Eyers, his eight-month pregnant partner Lucrezia Worrell and four children were forced out, because an investigation uncovered that they had spent £40 on takeaways every week, which resulted in them falling behind on rent payments for their flat, in Chatham, Kent.

However, Daniel, 32, says he cannot work because he needs to take his children, aged five, four and two-year-old twins, to school, and Lucrezia, 27, is set to give birth any day."

Due to the large rent arrears, the council asked for the couple's bank statements and discovered the takeaway payments.

Is this an invasion of privacy?

the dwp can ask to see bank statements at any time

so can housing benefit

if you are caught not paying your rent then you will end up in jail "

it is unfair and unjust system but you signed a commitment to pay the landlord they will take you to court.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


""A couple with four children have been kicked out of their flat, because the council alleges they spent their benefits on ‘takeaways’ rather than paying their rent. Medway Council says that Daniel Eyers, his eight-month pregnant partner Lucrezia Worrell and four children were forced out, because an investigation uncovered that they had spent £40 on takeaways every week, which resulted in them falling behind on rent payments for their flat, in Chatham, Kent.

However, Daniel, 32, says he cannot work because he needs to take his children, aged five, four and two-year-old twins, to school, and Lucrezia, 27, is set to give birth any day."

Due to the large rent arrears, the council asked for the couple's bank statements and discovered the takeaway payments.

Is this an invasion of privacy?

the dwp can ask to see bank statements at any time

so can housing benefit

if you are caught not paying your rent then you will end up in jail "

No you won't. You will be evicted not sent to prison.

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over a year ago


"Isn't there something wrong somewhere when the most disadvantaged people are required to lay bare their finances and suffer sanctions if public money given to them as benefits is deemed by officialdom to have been misspent yet Chris Grayling can play fast and loose with £86 million of public money and still have a job? "

I don't know who he is and I don't want to. I can imagine.

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over a year ago

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