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By *good-being-bad OP   Man
over a year ago

mis-types and auto corrects leads cock leeds

Theres reportedly a twitter account from a championship footballer who has tolg his family and his football manager he is gay and he is almost ready to come out publicly.

There were 41 openly gay lady footballeds at the recent world cup and there was no issue .

Any thoughts why its an issue for male footballers ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think it’s needed.

It’s far more acceptable for women to be gay....because men get off at the thought whilst they mock men for being gay.

If more fighters, football,rugby cricket etc came out the barriers would start to crumble

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By *estSussexGuy76Man
over a year ago

copthorne

I think it's more to do with the fans reactions where a male sportsmen comes out as gay...

The small minority of football fans are still backwards and can't except change.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Cos some people still live in the dark ages and think it's a choice and the wrong one at that.

It is becoming less of a big deal though, which is awesome.

I look forward to a day when sexuality isn't a big deal and no one has to "come out".

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By *aomilatteCouple
over a year ago

Midlands

We’re getting there. It used to be illegal to be gay. There used to be signs up saying “no blacks, no Irish, no dogs”. What we need is one or two gay footballers to come out. Then more will and we’ll be making progress

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman
over a year ago

On a mooch

If a current player comes out and openly say they are gay it would be great.

Most individuals wouldn’t bat an eyelid, but unfortunately there are still those small minded minority that would chant and shout abuse. No one deserves to hear that so I can understand why they keep it under wraps

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Any thoughts why its an issue for male footballers ?"

Justin Fashanu, even his own brother turned his back on him.

I think the footballing world is ready for it now though. I just hope we don't see a mass of faux support for him by opposing fans. Patronisation won't help the cause.

If he comes to play against Birmingham, (assuming he's not one of ours) I hope he's met with the same derision that every straight player is. I don't want to see people being applauded because they're gay.

I also think that account is fake, btw.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Theres reportedly a twitter account from a championship footballer who has tolg his family and his football manager he is gay and he is almost ready to come out publicly.

There were 41 openly gay lady footballeds at the recent world cup and there was no issue .

Any thoughts why its an issue for male footballers ?"

I don't think it's an issue they fall to the ground so quickly these days and shout ref where's my hanky he fouled me ref

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

U never seen football fans behaviour?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"U never seen football fans behaviour? "
naaaa I'm a rugby fan, a man's game lol mind that big ex Welsh Rugby player great physique

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By *good-being-bad OP   Man
over a year ago

mis-types and auto corrects leads cock leeds


"U never seen football fans behaviour? naaaa I'm a rugby fan, a man's game lol mind that big ex Welsh Rugby player great physique "

In rugby 'a real mans game' there have been player s who have come out, I don't recall abuse for being gay aimed at those players.. is football different, football fans so different to rugby ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"U never seen football fans behaviour? naaaa I'm a rugby fan, a man's game lol mind that big ex Welsh Rugby player great physique

In rugby 'a real mans game' there have been player s who have come out, I don't recall abuse for being gay aimed at those players.. is football different, football fans so different to rugby ?"

yes completely different rugby is about family atmosphere enjoying a physical battle

Footballs far too tribal and violent in the stands cos there watching grown men rolling on the floor like children

Rugby fans dont need to scream for blood the players are giving that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"U never seen football fans behaviour? naaaa I'm a rugby fan, a man's game lol mind that big ex Welsh Rugby player great physique

In rugby 'a real mans game' there have been player s who have come out, I don't recall abuse for being gay aimed at those players.. is football different, football fans so different to rugby ?"

yes rugby is more family orientated it's a very social event not a d*unken brawl as it is at some matches

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"U never seen football fans behaviour? naaaa I'm a rugby fan, a man's game lol mind that big ex Welsh Rugby player great physique

In rugby 'a real mans game' there have been player s who have come out, I don't recall abuse for being gay aimed at those players.. is football different, football fans so different to rugby ?yes rugby is more family orientated it's a very social event not a d*unken brawl as it is at some matches "

football matches that should have said

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By *udistnorthantsMan
over a year ago

Desborough

If a player is having a shit game they are going to get mocked/ abused whether they are straight, gay or have a pineapple on his head

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By *uHorny1Man
over a year ago

Cannock

There are a number of successful, openly gay rugby players and officials, as well as first class cricketers.

I think the issue for footballers is the attitude of some fans. They look for anything to have a dig about- race, religion, family issues. Its vile.

If you were gsy, woukd you want to expose yourself to that?

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

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I only tell people that I'm bisexual if someone asks me, I don't feel the need to go shouting from the rooftops. I would imagine that any professional sportsman would feel the same way.

On a lighter note, I wanna see Julian Clary and Boy George in a boxing ring

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman
over a year ago

On a mooch


"U never seen football fans behaviour? naaaa I'm a rugby fan, a man's game lol mind that big ex Welsh Rugby player great physique

In rugby 'a real mans game' there have been player s who have come out, I don't recall abuse for being gay aimed at those players.. is football different, football fans so different to rugby ?"

Let’s just say that most football fans have moved on, but there are still some that a very, very vocal and as someone said tribal. One of the reasons I’ve still not took my 11 year old

Unfortunately, we are a long way from rugby, our fans won’t be mixed and you definitely won’t be drinking watching the game in the stadium.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Aren't Kyle Walker and desi Ali having an affair?

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

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"If a player is having a shit game they are going to get mocked/ abused whether they are straight, gay or have a pineapple on his head"

Haha, are you on about Jason Lee, the former F****t striker, he took some stick when he played at Derby

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By *udistnorthantsMan
over a year ago

Desborough


"If a player is having a shit game they are going to get mocked/ abused whether they are straight, gay or have a pineapple on his head

Haha, are you on about Jason Lee, the former F****t striker, he took some stick when he played at Derby "

Fantasy Football started it

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

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"If a player is having a shit game they are going to get mocked/ abused whether they are straight, gay or have a pineapple on his head

Haha, are you on about Jason Lee, the former F****t striker, he took some stick when he played at Derby

Fantasy Football started it "

Yeah, I remember that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A survey was conducted last year and about 10% (I can't remember the exact figure) said that having a gay member of 'their club' would make them rethink attending or supporting.

A large section of day to day supporters and by extension society is still very bigoted and abuse is still very common for any form of minority. If it were possible to avoid that by not coming out, I can understand that.

It takes a certain type of person to stand up and shout "I'm here and I'm queer". I think that football needs it but I understand why they don't.

Tea

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

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"It takes a certain type of person to stand up and shout "I'm here and I'm queer". I think that football needs it but I understand why they don't.

Tea"

Re: one of my earlier posts, why should there be any question about someone's sexual orientation, it's not specific to the sport, if they're good at what they do, why should it matter to anyone?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"U never seen football fans behaviour? naaaa I'm a rugby fan, a man's game lol mind that big ex Welsh Rugby player great physique

In rugby 'a real mans game' there have been player s who have come out, I don't recall abuse for being gay aimed at those players.. is football different, football fans so different to rugby ?

Let’s just say that most football fans have moved on, but there are still some that a very, very vocal and as someone said tribal. One of the reasons I’ve still not took my 11 year old

Unfortunately, we are a long way from rugby, our fans won’t be mixed and you definitely won’t be drinking watching the game in the stadium. "

And long may we stay a long way from rugby. Partisanship is what makes football great, the fervour wouldn't be there otherwise. Keep the polite applause for the ballet. I'd like to see an end to some of the abuse we see around but I wouldn't be prepared to swap that for the sterile atmosphere that club rugby offers.

I really don't mean to sound condescending but comparing football to rugby is pointless, they're 2 completely different things, both great in their own way.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Cos some people still live in the dark ages and think it's a choice and the wrong one at that.

It is becoming less of a big deal though, which is awesome.

I look forward to a day when sexuality isn't a big deal and no one has to "come out"."

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By *tephTV67TV/TS
over a year ago

Cheshire

Ask Brighton fans if homophobia is still present in the game, they get enough abuse over it.

There are other things off the pitch to remember, football players are assets to a club. A chairman may reconsider signing a player due to his sexuality, I'm not just talking about UK players but imagine playing in the foreign leagues or trying to sign to a club with a very traditional religious attitude.

Some new sponsorship deals will appear but others companies could be put off as well.

A football players career is a very short one, if you're lucky 15 years as a striker to maybe 25-30 as a goalkeeper, not many seasons you can risk winning cups and medals or that big signing that'll keep you rich in retirement,for the rest of your life.

Football is mainly a business now not a game, supporters are atmosphere for the TV viewers, where clubs get most of their income. If any club deems they'll lose that TV money over criticism of their latest signing, no chance they'll take a risk on that gay player.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"U never seen football fans behaviour? naaaa I'm a rugby fan, a man's game lol mind that big ex Welsh Rugby player great physique

In rugby 'a real mans game' there have been player s who have come out, I don't recall abuse for being gay aimed at those players.. is football different, football fans so different to rugby ?

Let’s just say that most football fans have moved on, but there are still some that a very, very vocal and as someone said tribal. One of the reasons I’ve still not took my 11 year old

Unfortunately, we are a long way from rugby, our fans won’t be mixed and you definitely won’t be drinking watching the game in the stadium.

And long may we stay a long way from rugby. Partisanship is what makes football great, the fervour wouldn't be there otherwise. Keep the polite applause for the ballet. I'd like to see an end to some of the abuse we see around but I wouldn't be prepared to swap that for the sterile atmosphere that club rugby offers.

I really don't mean to sound condescending but comparing football to rugby is pointless, they're 2 completely different things, both great in their own way."

footballers although athletic are a bunch of namby pambys falling over at the least little touch rolling around like the legs broken then getting straight back up and running around the pitch with no after effects, also football was about supporting your local team for the area where you lived now it's about who can spend the most money on the foreign player who rolls around the pitch cheating I might add in an attempt to get a free kick or penalty, this I might add is normal in premiership football, I still watch international football and international rugby

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"U never seen football fans behaviour? naaaa I'm a rugby fan, a man's game lol mind that big ex Welsh Rugby player great physique

In rugby 'a real mans game' there have been player s who have come out, I don't recall abuse for being gay aimed at those players.. is football different, football fans so different to rugby ?

Let’s just say that most football fans have moved on, but there are still some that a very, very vocal and as someone said tribal. One of the reasons I’ve still not took my 11 year old

Unfortunately, we are a long way from rugby, our fans won’t be mixed and you definitely won’t be drinking watching the game in the stadium.

And long may we stay a long way from rugby. Partisanship is what makes football great, the fervour wouldn't be there otherwise. Keep the polite applause for the ballet. I'd like to see an end to some of the abuse we see around but I wouldn't be prepared to swap that for the sterile atmosphere that club rugby offers.

I really don't mean to sound condescending but comparing football to rugby is pointless, they're 2 completely different things, both great in their own way.footballers although athletic are a bunch of namby pambys falling over at the least little touch rolling around like the legs broken then getting straight back up and running around the pitch with no after effects, also football was about supporting your local team for the area where you lived now it's about who can spend the most money on the foreign player who rolls around the pitch cheating I might add in an attempt to get a free kick or penalty, this I might add is normal in premiership football, I still watch international football and international rugby "

Players are told to go down now if they believe they've been impeded. It doesn't mean it wasn't a foul but they make the referee's mind up for him by hitting the deck. It's putting a stop to the real cheating (such as shirt pulling) that used to go more often.

You can throw all the lazy cliches around that you like but the game and its rules, have changed from the days when assault was legal.

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By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff


"Ask Brighton fans if homophobia is still present in the game, they get enough abuse over it."

And yet they come to Cardiff and shout about how we have sex with sheep.

Luckily we can take the mick out of ourselves and don't take it to heart.

Everyone comes to us singing 'Sheep Shaggers' so we just join in as it's just terrace banter.

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By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff


"U never seen football fans behaviour? naaaa I'm a rugby fan, a man's game lol mind that big ex Welsh Rugby player great physique

In rugby 'a real mans game' there have been player s who have come out, I don't recall abuse for being gay aimed at those players.. is football different, football fans so different to rugby ?

Let’s just say that most football fans have moved on, but there are still some that a very, very vocal and as someone said tribal. One of the reasons I’ve still not took my 11 year old

Unfortunately, we are a long way from rugby, our fans won’t be mixed and you definitely won’t be drinking watching the game in the stadium.

And long may we stay a long way from rugby. Partisanship is what makes football great, the fervour wouldn't be there otherwise. Keep the polite applause for the ballet. I'd like to see an end to some of the abuse we see around but I wouldn't be prepared to swap that for the sterile atmosphere that club rugby offers.

I really don't mean to sound condescending but comparing football to rugby is pointless, they're 2 completely different things, both great in their own way.footballers although athletic are a bunch of namby pambys falling over at the least little touch rolling around like the legs broken then getting straight back up and running around the pitch with no after effects, also football was about supporting your local team for the area where you lived now it's about who can spend the most money on the foreign player who rolls around the pitch cheating I might add in an attempt to get a free kick or penalty, this I might add is normal in premiership football, I still watch international football and international rugby "

So how come football is the number 1 sport in the world, or how come Rugby isn't?

Why did they need to bring 'citing' into rugby, it isn't this gentleman's game. Isn't 'bloodgate' faking injury? It's not just football, or at least mostly in mens football. And it's not every player either.

In regards to supporting your local team, sports moved on. If your Grannies sisters uncle was from that particular country you might just get a game. Rugby is full of that as well, certainly at international level (England and Wales spring to mind).

But yeah back to the top. How come rugby is still behind football in so many ways if it's that good?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Football's always been a 'macho' sport but I don't see why it should effect their playing ability in the slightest.

Times are changing and hopefully the other gay footballers feel ok coming out.

I'm sure there must be dozens of others in the professional leagues

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It takes a certain type of person to stand up and shout "I'm here and I'm queer". I think that football needs it but I understand why they don't.

Tea

Re: one of my earlier posts, why should there be any question about someone's sexual orientation, it's not specific to the sport, if they're good at what they do, why should it matter to anyone? "

It shouldn't, it makes no difference whatsoever to a person's ability to play. The issue seems to entirely be the fans reactions.

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By *arlomaleMan
over a year ago

darlington

The problem the player has in coming out is the mentality of a lot of football fans we’ve all heard the sick chants about hillsborough and the Munich air crash so can you imagine the crowd if a player comes out as I’ve said it’s a problem with the type of mentality some fans have players have had all sorts of insults about their sexuality shouted at them from the stands you don’t hear it happen at any other sport some of the football chants are funny but a lot are sick

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

A very high profile footballer was at a bi/gay place I was at a few times but the media were crawling around and ruined it for him. They were atrocious, pushing for information and obviously have some. The media in the UK is the dominant shaper of public opinion and they are a key reason that we've been held back, alongside older straight men in the sport who are backwards and also frightened that investments are at risk.

Homophobic abuse at games has continued but without constant police action - homophobia has almost been treated like a somewhat acceptable prejudice. It should be dealt with100% of the time that it happens, with arrests, bans etc, to create the crystal clear understanding that it is not tolerated.

Sure, there'll be some bigots but they can progressively die out or be forced into silence. It breaks my heart seeing someone be happier, gain some freedom to then be hounded and forced to have to live a lie

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By *etite HandfulWoman
over a year ago

Chester


"Theres reportedly a twitter account from a championship footballer who has tolg his family and his football manager he is gay and he is almost ready to come out publicly.

There were 41 openly gay lady footballeds at the recent world cup and there was no issue .

Any thoughts why its an issue for male footballers ?"

There shouldn't be but the ones who are gay and playing probably don't publicise it as it could affect their income via image rights values and shirt sales.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

I relish the day noone has to "come out" and we all just be ourselves

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think it's a fake account , but there has to be gay/ bi footballers out there , but who will have the balls to be the first ? The stick and abuse they would get would be high , the newspapers would go to town on them as well It still happens now they say "gay George Michael or gay elton John "but they never flip it and say straight mark wright or straight Danny dyer , it really shouldn't matter who you sleep with but sadly it still does

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The problem the player has in coming out is the mentality of a lot of football fans we’ve all heard the sick chants about hillsborough and the Munich air crash so can you imagine the crowd if a player comes out as I’ve said it’s a problem with the type of mentality some fans have players have had all sorts of insults about their sexuality shouted at them from the stands you don’t hear it happen at any other sport some of the football chants are funny but a lot are sick "

The difference is that homophobic chants will end up with the perpetrators receiving football banning orders.

There'll hardly be any.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If the gay footballer is mentally strong enough and can handle the banter from the away fans, fill your boots and Go for it.

Should be a laugh .

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ


"If the gay footballer is mentally strong enough and can handle the banter from the away fans, fill your boots and Go for it.

Should be a laugh .

"

Especially if he scores a hat-trick in front of the opposite fans and does a Girly dance round an imaginary handbag

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By *good-being-bad OP   Man
over a year ago

mis-types and auto corrects leads cock leeds

Seems the twitter acvount from the supposed gay footballer has been deleted.

Too much pressure ? Fake account ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Seems the twitter acvount from the supposed gay footballer has been deleted.

Too much pressure ? Fake account ?"

there one reported prem player about to come out but team owners have said he cant fearing a fan backlash

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By *upremexMan
over a year ago

liverpool. huyton. near yewtree

Its all about being a male a red blooded man who is rough and tough and its all bullshit. But if a footballer is gay its his affair and nobody elses, he should only come out if he is happy to and not because he is being forced by anyone..

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

Perhaps there are very few gay male footballers

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

I get the impression of double standards in football.

Racist abuse - be it by fans, players or whoever - attracts serious sanction and is rightly condemned by all.

Homophobic abuse - be it by fans, players or whoever - tends to be greeted with a shrug of the shoulders.

It hardly inspires anyone in football to be open about their sexuality.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Theres reportedly a twitter account from a championship footballer who has tolg his family and his football manager he is gay and he is almost ready to come out publicly.

There were 41 openly gay lady footballeds at the recent world cup and there was no issue .

Any thoughts why its an issue for male footballers ?"

communal baths oh and kissing when under induced meditation

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Because the majority of the fans would take the piss and would have made up homophobic chants.. like they did about footballers they suspected of being gay.. or just ones they didn't like.

Nice crowd

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Seems the twitter acvount from the supposed gay footballer has been deleted.

Too much pressure ? Fake account ?"

The coming out day was supposed to be today. I'm disappointed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think it's a fake account , but there has to be gay/ bi footballers out there , but who will have the balls to be the first ? The stick and abuse they would get would be high , the newspapers would go to town on them as well It still happens now they say "gay George Michael or gay elton John "but they never flip it and say straight mark wright or straight Danny dyer , it really shouldn't matter who you sleep with but sadly it still does "

There's already been a 'first'. He killed himself.

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By *loswingersCouple
over a year ago

Gloucester


"I think it's a fake account , but there has to be gay/ bi footballers out there , but who will have the balls to be the first ? The stick and abuse they would get would be high , the newspapers would go to town on them as well It still happens now they say "gay George Michael or gay elton John "but they never flip it and say straight mark wright or straight Danny dyer , it really shouldn't matter who you sleep with but sadly it still does

There's already been a 'first'. He killed himself."

He did indeed, tragic.

I really hope we go back to the times when no one gave a shit who did what with who.

I honestly don’t care one bit whether a famous footballer likes to have sex with other men or not. Any more than I care whether he prefers to have sex with women or not.

It’s a crazy world where we feel everyone and his wife is interested in our sex life.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"U never seen football fans behaviour? naaaa I'm a rugby fan, a man's game lol mind that big ex Welsh Rugby player great physique "

A man's game?

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By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

Oh well, I suppose this will come around in the news, yet again.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think it's a fake account , but there has to be gay/ bi footballers out there , but who will have the balls to be the first ? The stick and abuse they would get would be high , the newspapers would go to town on them as well It still happens now they say "gay George Michael or gay elton John "but they never flip it and say straight mark wright or straight Danny dyer , it really shouldn't matter who you sleep with but sadly it still does

There's already been a 'first'. He killed himself.

He did indeed, tragic.

I really hope we go back to the times when no one gave a shit who did what with who.

I honestly don’t care one bit whether a famous footballer likes to have sex with other men or not. Any more than I care whether he prefers to have sex with women or not.

It’s a crazy world where we feel everyone and his wife is interested in our sex life.

"

When did people not give a shit about who was shagging who? I suppose everyone knew about Larry Grayson but I don't remember them going on about his man friends.

And I agree with you. These days we need to know what they had for their dinner, who made their shoes and how much they weigh.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ive campaigned for a long time for lgbt in footy helping set up a sunday team from a 'gay' pub. Lots of people in the game think this is a hoax and now sadly it looks so

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ive campaigned for a long time for lgbt in footy helping set up a sunday team from a 'gay' pub. Lots of people in the game think this is a hoax and now sadly it looks so"

How did the Sunday team go down?

That's not a pun but it should be.

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

I think gay men in football are few and far between..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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When did people not give a shit about who was shagging who? I suppose everyone knew about Larry Grayson but I don't remember them going on about his man friends.

"

Oooh look at the muck in 'ere

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By *retty GoodMan
over a year ago

Cardiff Bay

Is this really news or discussion worthy ? it’s 2019, you are what you are embrace it

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

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"Oh well, I suppose this will come around in the news, yet again."

How many gay golf players, athletes, jockeys, swimmers, boxers, or even Prime Ministers do we have to we have to listen to the bile that is flung in their direction before it becomes normal to be who you are?

As long as you are good at what you choose to do, then I applaud you, no matter whatever your sexuality.

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ


"I think gay men in football are few and far between.."

I think Vinnie Jones fancied Gazza

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By *loswingersCouple
over a year ago

Gloucester


"I think gay men in football are few and far between..

I think Vinnie Jones fancied Gazza "

You mean when he grabbed him by the balls?

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