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private security firms doing police work

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Good idea or bad?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Good idea if it's managed properly. I suspect it won't though as the Police Federation don't want it to work and I'd wage they'll work actively to ensure it doesn't.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If G4S's record of allowing prisoners to escape from vans and court buildings is anything to go by .....

I rest my case

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maybe the private firm should look after the police admin, and let the police do the policing

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple
over a year ago

hexham

terrible...the Police are distrusted enough, and the private security firms doing prisoner transfer have an appalling reputaion.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Maybe the private firm should look after the police admin, and let the police do the policing"

By all accounts that's exactly what the private firms will be doing, middle to back room operations.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I spoke to my brother who's a Chief Inspector, about it. He's only got 4 and a half years to retirement and doesn't have a particular axe to grind and he thinks its a bad idea. There's the possibility they may be used to patrol neighbourhoods and may have the power to detain but not arrest. He said if that's the case why not employ more PCSO's, but then he said 'but then someone won't be making shitloads of money out of it will they'

Being a CI has really opened his eyes regarding the poitics of the job and the budget implications

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The private firms will be run and manned by ex police people anyway.

You don't think they'd give any old twonk a job do ya?

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By *oantrimcpl2010Couple
over a year ago

Lisburn


"Maybe the private firm should look after the police admin, and let the police do the policing"

+1

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"If G4S's record of allowing prisoners to escape from vans and court buildings is anything to go by .....

I rest my case"

indeed..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

bad idea. let the proffesionals run it, not rent a cop. we will end up like the USA soon, any mall cop will be able to carry a gun.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And the local 'plod' is professionl ??

FFs most of them don't have the capabilility to string half a dozen words together to make a sentance

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By *londeCazWoman
over a year ago

Arse End of the Universe, Cumbria

Maybe not the same, but, I work in a place where the cops on the gate have guns (as much to keep us inside in the event of an incident as keep loonies out), gate duty is in the process of being taken over by private (un-armed)firm and, apart from hundreds of us being sent to redo our passes, no diff....armed cops are still there, just not on the gates xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The private firms will be run and manned by ex police people anyway.

You don't think they'd give any old twonk a job do ya?"

Yes if the price is right - after al, most of the police are twonks. I've been there and got the T shirt. Evidence staring the silly bastards in the face and they ignore it . don't get me started

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By *londeCazWoman
over a year ago

Arse End of the Universe, Cumbria


"And the local 'plod' is professionl ??

FFs most of them don't have the capabilility to string half a dozen words together to make a sentance"

IMO no such thing as "local plod" anymore....and they were always professional when I were a lass....our coppers now come from 30 miles away, when I was a girl, our local copper was my best mate's dad - we were always in bother lolx

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By *acciWoman
over a year ago

leeds


"Maybe the private firm should look after the police admin, and let the police do the policing"

+2

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

have you been to a busy concert or a football match or even a pub nowadays..

Give some young guy or girl a yellow jacket with a radio - and some of them actually believe they are cops !!

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

The actual jobs that they will do are not fixed yet - there's a tender out, covering all kinds of stuff, and there could be more jobs added.

Very, very bad idea in my opinion. I prefer the police service to be staffed by long serving professionals, where the buck stops with these people, rather than fly by night operators, who'll have contract staff etc, and there's not the same likelihood of trust and service. Our police are generally remarkable, they are dedicated, take enormous risks and yet are the pawns of politicians, as can be seen by their tactics at student demos etc: which were repulsive, kettling in innocent people, as well as enormous aggression and hiding their identities.

There is an enormous job to do, to re-build public trust and confidence in them - it's a backwards step, that will further disintegrate our relationship with them.

Criminal data should remain confidential, as it potentially gives the holder of it enormous power, whether potentially used coercively, or in other corrupt ways.

If there is much wrong with our service, outside of financial budgets, then these things should be improved upon. Sorry, but investigating investigating crimes, detaining suspects, developing cases, responding to and investigating incidents, supporting victims and witnesses, managing high-risk individuals, patrolling neighbourhoods, managing intelligence as well as managing engagement with the public and more traditional back-office functions should largely be staffed by paid employees.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"And the local 'plod' is professionl ??

FFs most of them don't have the capabilility to string half a dozen words together to make a sentance

IMO no such thing as "local plod" anymore....and they were always professional when I were a lass....our coppers now come from 30 miles away, when I was a girl, our local copper was my best mate's dad - we were always in bother lolx"

Yeah maybe 30yrs ago they were professional and local. Now they are no-entitities oblivious to local knowledge and they don't give a fuck. They are paid to 'do a job' and that's what they do.

But again who can blaim them for having no get up and go .. they take the report, issue the bog standrard fucking crime number, file the case, it goes to the CPS and maybe court, then, assuming it gets that far, some tosser of a magistrate tells the defendant to go home and be a good boy along with a slap on the wrist.

So looking at it sensibly and logically who can blame, although it is annoying, the coppers for not bothering their arses ?

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By *adja_lazloCouple
over a year ago

Solihull

so very bad, going on the people we have trained over the last 12 months for G4S and the olympics, generally dont have the quality of person to do the job and if the Government want civvies to do a police job, employ more police, simples

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