FabSwingers.com forum: Plant based diet

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Any health guru’s on here who have tried it?

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

Is that the modern term for a vegan diet ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I like eating bush

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sounds shit.

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By *_Yeah19Couple
over a year ago

Lincoln

Nope, I value my health too much

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Nope, I value my health too much

TB"

Don't believe you can get TB from eating plants

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I are a cactus. It wasn't for me and I didn't half feel a prick.

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By *_Yeah19Couple
over a year ago

Lincoln

"Nope, I value my health too much

Don't believe you can get TB from eating plants

Well you certainly wouldn’t get me as a plant based eater

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I live on a plant diet.

I only eat animals that eat plants

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Nope, I value my health too much

Don't believe you can get TB from eating plants

Well you certainly wouldn’t get me as a plant based eater

Venus Fly Trap salad? Well it eats meat.

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By *_Yeah19Couple
over a year ago

Lincoln

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Any health guru’s on here who have tried it?

tried it and love it and I do not eat meat

had soya spaghetti bolognese tonight with tiny tomatoes

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By *_Yeah19Couple
over a year ago

Lincoln

"Nope, I value my health too much

Don't believe you can get TB from eating plants

Well you certainly wouldn’t get me as a plant based eater

Venus Fly Trap salad? Well it eats meat."

Nope, far too much greenery

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Nope, I value my health too much

Don't believe you can get TB from eating plants

Well you certainly wouldn’t get me as a plant based eater

Venus Fly Trap salad? Well it eats meat.

Nope, far too much greenery "

Fair point. The bofins need to hurry up and make a bacon plant.

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By *uke olovingmanMan
over a year ago

Gravesend

I let animals eat the plants for me...then I eat them

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By *ENGUYMan
over a year ago

Hull

If I was destined to be on a Plant Diet, I'd have been born as a Cow, Rabbit or Sheep!

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By *ustme34Man
over a year ago

Bingley

"Nope, I value my health too much

Don't believe you can get TB from eating plants

Well you certainly wouldn’t get me as a plant based eater

Venus Fly Trap salad? Well it eats meat.

Nope, far too much greenery

Fair point. The bofins need to hurry up and make a bacon plant."
done in a way

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By *ustme34Man
over a year ago

Bingley

I eat mostly plant based

I'm not Vegan and do eat meat now and again . But hardly any dairy either

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By *uxom redCouple
over a year ago

Shrewsbury

Gave me a bloated stomach and lots of wind. Didn't loose weight I gained it!

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By *opsy RogersWoman
over a year ago

London

"Nope, I value my health too much

TB"

Funny you should say that...

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I like eating bush"

Ha! I was waiting for that comment

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Nope, I value my health too much

TB"

Is it harmful?

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By *opsy RogersWoman
over a year ago

London

"Nope, I value my health too much

Is it harmful?

There is good quality evidence that it is.

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By *_Yeah19Couple
over a year ago

Lincoln

"Nope, I value my health too much

Is it harmful?

There is good quality evidence that it is."

Yep as Topsy says, far too restrictive, miss out on vital nutrients and isn’t going to save the planet.

Would be an absolute disaster for me, hence why I’m settled at 80-90% animal-based

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By *opsy RogersWoman
over a year ago

London

"Nope, I value my health too much

Is it harmful?

There is good quality evidence that it is.

Yep as Topsy says, far too restrictive, miss out on vital nutrients and isn’t going to save the planet.

Would be an absolute disaster for me, hence why I’m settled at 80-90% animal-based

TB"

Back away from the green beans!

I’m still totally carnivore at the moment and it’s working a treat.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Eat plenty of fruit and veg but sorry couldn’t stop eating meat.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I guess it’s the latest thing

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Done correctly it's fine.

At the end of the day we all require the same micro and macro nutrients, amounts depending on our age, activity levels, and muscle+bone mass.

Not vegan, but I have about 4 non-meat days - I feel great in terms of my work and gym performance. Less bloated, hair feels amazingly thick.

You do need to consider it seriously though. Everything is absorbed into our bodies using complimentary nutrients. This is bioavailability. It applies to the non-veggies and vegans here, you really need to consider what you eat with what.

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By *opsy RogersWoman
over a year ago

London

"Done correctly it's fine.

At the end of the day we all require the same micro and macro nutrients, amounts depending on our age, activity levels, and muscle+bone mass.

Not vegan, but I have about 4 non-meat days - I feel great in terms of my work and gym performance. Less bloated, hair feels amazingly thick.

I only eat carnivore and trust me, those of us that do have considered it very carefully form every angle.

A plant based diet would make me very ill, very quickly.

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford

My sister in law has a plant based diet, she has terminal cancer and it has helped her. She is also vegan. Her son in law is a nutritionist in Australia and advises her on her diet. I tried a bean burger and it gave me terrible wind

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Done correctly it's fine.

At the end of the day we all require the same micro and macro nutrients, amounts depending on our age, activity levels, and muscle+bone mass.

Not vegan, but I have about 4 non-meat days - I feel great in terms of my work and gym performance. Less bloated, hair feels amazingly thick.

I only eat carnivore and trust me, those of us that do have considered it very carefully form every angle.

A plant based diet would make me very ill, very quickly."

Well fair enough. Are you 100% carnivore though? I mean you must have some greens and whole grains right?

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By *andKBCouple
over a year ago

Plymouth

I'm completely vegan have been for 18 months! I'm not eating very healthy at the moment but usually I do. I ensure I eat things with fortified nutrients and take supplements when needed!!

My bloods are fine the doctors aren't concerned.

I went vegan on the advice of a consultant for my Arthritis! Lots of evidence base behind this too. I get a little pain now but nowhere near as bad as it was two years ago!!

Dairy is actually not designed to be eaten or d*unk by humans it's the breast milk of a cow!! We're the only species who do this.

Yes their are positives and negatives but done correctly I know plenty of vegans in very good health!!

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

I'm vegan Orrrrrrr I eat plant based foods.

Very tasty. Try not to buy ready made shite.

Do your own.

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By *opsy RogersWoman
over a year ago

London

"Done correctly it's fine.

At the end of the day we all require the same micro and macro nutrients, amounts depending on our age, activity levels, and muscle+bone mass.

Not vegan, but I have about 4 non-meat days - I feel great in terms of my work and gym performance. Less bloated, hair feels amazingly thick.

I only eat carnivore and trust me, those of us that do have considered it very carefully form every angle.

A plant based diet would make me very ill, very quickly.

Well fair enough. Are you 100% carnivore though? I mean you must have some greens and whole grains right?"

I’ve not eaten carbs for 11 years, wholegrains are damaging and no, I don’t eat anything unless it comes from an animal. Every marker of health is perfect for me.

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By *opsy RogersWoman
over a year ago

London

"I'm vegan Orrrrrrr I eat plant based foods.

Very tasty. Try not to buy ready made shite.

Do your own. "

Couldn’t agree more Granny. I cater for vegans, the vast majority are happy to eat factory produced, bastardised foods or cake and a very carb heavy diet.

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By *Man1263Man
over a year ago

Stockport

Does Huel count for this?

I have that for my dinner mon-fri, as it saves me from the dreaded £3 meal deal or McD

(Yes I could make my own sarnies etc, but Huel is quick, have my fruit with it, never have to worry about if it has gone off etc)

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By *opsy RogersWoman
over a year ago

London

"Does Huel count for this?

I have that for my dinner mon-fri, as it saves me from the dreaded £3 meal deal or McD

(Yes I could make my own sarnies etc, but Huel is quick, have my fruit with it, never have to worry about if it has gone off etc)

No idea, have a look at the ingredients but if you’re disciplined enough to only eat that then choosing healthier options would be easy.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"I'm vegan Orrrrrrr I eat plant based foods.

Very tasty. Try not to buy ready made shite.

Do your own.

Couldn’t agree more Granny. I cater for vegans, the vast majority are happy to eat factory produced, bastardised foods or cake and a very carb heavy diet.

I used to be into majority meat n fish and veg....... these days mostly veg.

To be honest if I wanted a cow i'd eat one but im doing just fine not eating animals

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

P.S.

No shock here but i'm healthy NOT cos I eat plants and NOT cos I will eat protein ....

But because ........ ta daaaaaaaaaaa

I won't touch anything with sugar in it..

No baked goods no sweeties no drinks....

Natural sugars yes......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Done correctly it's fine.

At the end of the day we all require the same micro and macro nutrients, amounts depending on our age, activity levels, and muscle+bone mass.

Not vegan, but I have about 4 non-meat days - I feel great in terms of my work and gym performance. Less bloated, hair feels amazingly thick.

I only eat carnivore and trust me, those of us that do have considered it very carefully form every angle.

A plant based diet would make me very ill, very quickly.

Well fair enough. Are you 100% carnivore though? I mean you must have some greens and whole grains right?

I’ve not eaten carbs for 11 years, wholegrains are damaging and no, I don’t eat anything unless it comes from an animal. Every marker of health is perfect for me. "

Not trying to be confrontational at all - just trying to see how and why certain diets seem to work for certain people.

However, how are whole grains damaging? If we were on about refined white flour or rice I'd get it, but whole meal bread for example is meant to be good due to high concentrations of fibre, iron, and protein.

I'm aware that a lot of people in this day and age, veggie, vegan, normal or whatever are consuming too many carbs, but I would like to know how for example, a bowl of porridge is bad?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Do plants give protein?

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By *Man1263Man
over a year ago

Stockport

"Do plants give protein?"

Peanuts do!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Do plants give protein?

Peanuts do!

Peanut butter and carrot cake for me then.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Do plants give protein?"

Nuts , lentils , beans, Peas etc...

but you can make your own seitan from gluten free flour.

I don't buy ready made meals.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

eat tofu or tempeh.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"eat tofu or tempeh."

Tofu is great! Its so good for when you're in a rush

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

OP what are you trying to gain from it?

If you are looking to build muscle you should really start using adding some Amino acids with it as you would have to eat a lot of different foods to get the required Aminos

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"OP what are you trying to gain from it?

If you are looking to build muscle you should really start using adding some Amino acids with it as you would have to eat a lot of different foods to get the required Aminos "

This - if you are just looking to keep your heart and brain healthy, I think the new idea is your diet should be broken into thirds.

A third whole grain and fruit based carbs.

A third lean protein - meat, fish, eggs, nuts, pulses.

A third fibrous veggies/greens/herbs.

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By *opsy RogersWoman
over a year ago

London

"OP what are you trying to gain from it?

If you are looking to build muscle you should really start using adding some Amino acids with it as you would have to eat a lot of different foods to get the required Aminos

This - if you are just looking to keep your heart and brain healthy, I think the new idea is your diet should be broken into thirds.

A third whole grain and fruit based carbs.

A third lean protein - meat, fish, eggs, nuts, pulses.

A third fibrous veggies/greens/herbs."

Where are you getting the fat your body needs from that?

Fruit is metabolised by the liver, that produces triglycerides which are the beasties that can cause heart disease.

The whole grain/wheat thing was the result of clever marketing and skewed research paid for by the wheat industry.

Check out the Chorleywood process.

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By *opsy RogersWoman
over a year ago

London

"Done correctly it's fine.

At the end of the day we all require the same micro and macro nutrients, amounts depending on our age, activity levels, and muscle+bone mass.

Not vegan, but I have about 4 non-meat days - I feel great in terms of my work and gym performance. Less bloated, hair feels amazingly thick.

I only eat carnivore and trust me, those of us that do have considered it very carefully form every angle.

A plant based diet would make me very ill, very quickly.

Well fair enough. Are you 100% carnivore though? I mean you must have some greens and whole grains right?

I’ve not eaten carbs for 11 years, wholegrains are damaging and no, I don’t eat anything unless it comes from an animal. Every marker of health is perfect for me.

Not trying to be confrontational at all - just trying to see how and why certain diets seem to work for certain people.

I'm aware that a lot of people in this day and age, veggie, vegan, normal or whatever are consuming too many carbs, but I would like to know how for example, a bowl of porridge is bad?"

I don’t think I accused you of confrontation!

Fibre needs have been invented by those invested in making profit and the iron has been added. Plant based protein isn’t all that bioavailable and every vitamin and mineral humans need can be found in a carnivore based diet.

Most of what your asking is based on knowledge that has been paid for and marketed by companies interested in making profit.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

20% animals 80% plants.

We arent designed to eat meat with every meal. It's a fact. Now argue if you Like but it's a fact we arent carnivores. We are omnivores that being said i dont believe we shouldn't eat meat just not as much as we do

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By *opsy RogersWoman
over a year ago

London

"20% animals 80% plants.

That’s interesting, do you have the citations for that?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you already eat meat and fine with eating it then I don't believe you should give it up. You are not gaining anything by doing so just stick to a balanced diet for the best results

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By *opsy RogersWoman
over a year ago

London

"If you already eat meat and fine with eating it then I don't believe you should give it up. You are not gaining anything by doing so just stick to a balanced diet for the best results

What does a balanced diet look like?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"If you already eat meat and fine with eating it then I don't believe you should give it up. You are not gaining anything by doing so just stick to a balanced diet for the best results

I guess it’s different diets for different results?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If you already eat meat and fine with eating it then I don't believe you should give it up. You are not gaining anything by doing so just stick to a balanced diet for the best results

What does a balanced diet look like? "

A balanced diet is a eating a wide variety of different foods which give you the nutrients your body needs

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By *opsy RogersWoman
over a year ago

London

"If you already eat meat and fine with eating it then I don't believe you should give it up. You are not gaining anything by doing so just stick to a balanced diet for the best results

What does a balanced diet look like?

A balanced diet is a eating a wide variety of different foods which give you the nutrients your body needs

So there’s no scientific standard then?

What about diabetics who can’t process carbs?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

^ That's why they have to take insulin If I had diabetes I'd go to a Keto diet and put myself into ketosis

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's almost like everyone is different and has different dietary needs.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"20% animals 80% plants.

That’s interesting, do you have the citations for that?"
I do actually firstly our teeth arnet like carnivores teeth like a lion for example. Carnivores jaws only open up and down they cannot move side to side (to mash up fibres) like an omnivores can plus pur guys are different we have 2 intestines where as carnivores dont and their stomach acid is much stronger and theres quite a few more factors but I cant remember all of them. So basically we are like chimpanzees mainly eating plants but can digest and will if need be other animals

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By *_Yeah19Couple
over a year ago

Lincoln

I’m bowing out of this one now, you crack on Topsy, I can’t face it

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By *opsy RogersWoman
over a year ago

London

"I’m bowing out of this one now, you crack on Topsy, I can’t face it

Me either, the cognitive dissonance is strong.

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By *opsy RogersWoman
over a year ago

London

"^ That's why they have to take insulin If I had diabetes I'd go to a Keto diet and put myself into ketosis "

You think all diabetics take insulin?

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By *opsy RogersWoman
over a year ago

London

"20% animals 80% plants.

That’s interesting, do you have the citations for that? I do actually firstly our teeth arnet like carnivores teeth like a lion for example. Carnivores jaws only open up and down they cannot move side to side (to mash up fibres) like an omnivores can plus pur guys are different we have 2 intestines where as carnivores dont and their stomach acid is much stronger and theres quite a few more factors but I cant remember all of them. So basically we are like chimpanzees mainly eating plants but can digest and will if need be other animals"

I asked for citations, not your opinion.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Any health guru’s on here who have tried it?

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yep got the munchies

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"20% animals 80% plants.

I asked for citations, not your opinion. "
all fact look it up

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By *elvet RopeMan
over a year ago

by the big field

I shared a tent with a veggie for a week- its a rather whiffy sort of diet!

I can confirm this from my own plant comsumption....hops!

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By *opsy RogersWoman
over a year ago

London

"20% animals 80% plants.

I asked for citations, not your opinion. all fact look it up

That’s up to you to do it, you were the one stating it was ‘fact’.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"20% animals 80% plants.

I asked for citations, not your opinion. all fact look it up

That’s up to you to do it, you were the one stating it was ‘fact’."
lol i already know its fact its simple biology

You are the one saying it's not.

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