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By *tella Heels OP   TV/TS
over a year ago

west here ford shire

So what are your thoughts?

The world needs to radically change the way we use this material, no more throwing away single use plastic items..

It’s about time we stopped doing this

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I shop at a zero waste shop & a green grocers with paper bags ... it's lush!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Send it to space

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By *tella Heels OP   TV/TS
over a year ago

west here ford shire


"Send it to space"

Not sure which is worse the exhaust fumes from rocket fuel, the cost of doing this

Or is it viable

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So what are your thoughts?

The world needs to radically change the way we use this material, no more throwing away single use plastic items..

It’s about time we stopped doing this"

Think we need to stop throwing unusable nets in the sea, to be honest.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We could use it to build a wall round Donald Trump

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's all very noble and I'm as much an advocate of ridding the planet of as much plastic as possible. BUT, the damage has already been done, what we do no is the equivalent of a drop in the ocean towards undoing the damage caused.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's all very noble and I'm as much an advocate of ridding the planet of as much plastic as possible. BUT, the damage has already been done, what we do no is the equivalent of a drop in the ocean towards undoing the damage caused. "

Whilst it's true we can't undo most of the damage, we can try prevemy further damage.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So what are your thoughts?

The world needs to radically change the way we use this material, no more throwing away single use plastic items..

It’s about time we stopped doing this"

Its very easy to say this now but its too little too late IMO..

The phrase shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted springs to mind

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's all very noble and I'm as much an advocate of ridding the planet of as much plastic as possible. BUT, the damage has already been done, what we do no is the equivalent of a drop in the ocean towards undoing the damage caused.

Whilst it's true we can't undo most of the damage, we can try prevent further damage."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We can’t just say the damage is done and do nothing further. That’s abdicating responsibility.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's all very noble and I'm as much an advocate of ridding the planet of as much plastic as possible. BUT, the damage has already been done, what we do no is the equivalent of a drop in the ocean towards undoing the damage caused. "

I actually disagree, I think whatever we do now can and already has had a positively impact. I come from a coastal area and the beaches are so much cleaner now than they were 10yrs ago. No doubt, in some places the damage is beyond repair, but it’s definitely not a lost cause.

I try to shop at a zero waste shop as much as possible, I carry reusable bags everywhere I go, I buy loose fruit and veg and I pick up litter when I’m out and about. It is a drop in the ocean but if everyone changes just a few small habits it can have a massive impact.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why is the onus on the consumer?

I recycle all my waste and pay the local authority to dispose of it responsibly.

Its them thats not honouring the contract.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This knowledge has been around for decades it's people not doing it until it's too late! Where were all the advocates 40 years ago? Oh let me guess ... throwing their plastic away willy nilly ...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why is the onus on the consumer?

I recycle all my waste and pay the local authority to dispose of it responsibly.

Its them thats not honouring the contract."

Exactly this.

Sadly companies won't do it until it works for their profits. Big companies have been caught dumping chemicals into natural water, because getting a fine once every few years is cheaper than paying for safe disposal

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I miss plastic straws... have to buy them off ebay.com now

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By *ensualbicockMan
over a year ago

liverpool wavertree picton clock

ban all oil based products

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By *innie The MinxWoman
over a year ago

Under the Duvet


"This knowledge has been around for decades it's people not doing it until it's too late! Where were all the advocates 40 years ago? Oh let me guess ... throwing their plastic away willy nilly ... "

To be fair, I doubt that most people (me included) thought that we "recycled" our plastic by throwing it in the sea, or that when we sent it abroad to be recycled they just burnt it.

Now it's common knowledge consumers can vote with their wallets and opt to shop without plastic, but also manufacturers need to either invest more in recyclable plastics or just use less packaging.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This thread makes depressing reading. Lots of people looking to put the blame at the doorstep of others, when we should all be addressing our behaviours.

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By *nnocentimesMan
over a year ago

over there by that tree

the current hate on plastic is bizarre - yes the pictures seen on Blue Planet were uncomfortable viewing, but when used responsibly single use plastic is actually really useful!

The biodegradable bags the supermarkets switched to before the ban were brilliant, we used them for our bin bags - now we have to buy rolls of bags which we never did before?

Has anyone tried to drink a milkshake/slushy type drink with a cardboard straw it’s rank and you need 2/3 to actually finish the drink - more waste......

It’s the little things like shrink wrapping bananas, avocados, cauliflowers etc - wtf they come in their own packaging!

** Please take note **

I am not saying we shouldn’t reduce our usage by any means and we should all be doing the best we can to reuse and recycle - it needs to be sensible though not a knee jerk reaction.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I saw recently that a certain large supermarket whose name begins with ‘W’ is trialling providing food and other consumables by the gram such as coffee and cereals into a container that you bring along yourself.

I think it’s a great idea, not sure how it actually works and how they negate the risk of theft or people managing to trick the system. But it is a really good idea.

Obviously though it means buying goods that are no longer sealed so preservation of food would become more important.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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Has anyone tried to drink a milkshake/slushy type drink with a cardboard straw it’s rank and you need 2/3 to actually finish the drink - more waste......

"

Agree with most of what you said except this, personally and I know most people who don’t have any issue using paper straws. I can probably count on one hand the amount of times my straw has become knackered and that’s because I’ve just left it in my drink for a while as I don’t tend to drink until after I’ve ate.

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By *nnocentimesMan
over a year ago

over there by that tree


"

Has anyone tried to drink a milkshake/slushy type drink with a cardboard straw it’s rank and you need 2/3 to actually finish the drink - more waste......

Agree with most of what you said except this, personally and I know most people who don’t have any issue using paper straws. I can probably count on one hand the amount of times my straw has become knackered and that’s because I’ve just left it in my drink for a while as I don’t tend to drink until after I’ve ate."

I had a very very manly mojito slushy at the weekend - could have been a “cheap” supplier of straw tbh... but they kept failing, and it really boiled my piss asking for a new one

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Has anyone tried to drink a milkshake/slushy type drink with a cardboard straw it’s rank and you need 2/3 to actually finish the drink - more waste......

Agree with most of what you said except this, personally and I know most people who don’t have any issue using paper straws. I can probably count on one hand the amount of times my straw has become knackered and that’s because I’ve just left it in my drink for a while as I don’t tend to drink until after I’ve ate.

I had a very very manly mojito slushy at the weekend - could have been a “cheap” supplier of straw tbh... but they kept failing, and it really boiled my piss asking for a new one "

Probably will have been a super cheap one. I have no issue with the ones they hand out in Maccies but some people do so maybe I’m either not as fussed or I’m doing something wrong (or right) haha.

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By *ady LickWoman
over a year ago

Northampton Somewhere

My husband works for a plastics manufacturer, its a relatively new job. At his interview he asked what the company were doing re recycling etc. They said while they are actively seeking a ways to reduce waste, recycle, find a environmentally friendly alternative etc plastic itself is not going anywhere soon.

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By *nnocentimesMan
over a year ago

over there by that tree


"

Has anyone tried to drink a milkshake/slushy type drink with a cardboard straw it’s rank and you need 2/3 to actually finish the drink - more waste......

Agree with most of what you said except this, personally and I know most people who don’t have any issue using paper straws. I can probably count on one hand the amount of times my straw has become knackered and that’s because I’ve just left it in my drink for a while as I don’t tend to drink until after I’ve ate.

I had a very very manly mojito slushy at the weekend - could have been a “cheap” supplier of straw tbh... but they kept failing, and it really boiled my piss asking for a new one

Probably will have been a super cheap one. I have no issue with the ones they hand out in Maccies but some people do so maybe I’m either not as fussed or I’m doing something wrong (or right) haha."

Maybe your sucking skills are just superior

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By *hatYorkLadMan
over a year ago

York

Without plastic what will the majority of things we use in every day life be made out of going forwards? Car dashboards, the back of your TV, the pen you're using, the housing for the vast majority of your appliances, we can't do away with it without a replacement....

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By *innie The MinxWoman
over a year ago

Under the Duvet


"Without plastic what will the majority of things we use in every day life be made out of going forwards? Car dashboards, the back of your TV, the pen you're using, the housing for the vast majority of your appliances, we can't do away with it without a replacement...."

If you can make underwear out of bamboo I'm sure they can make a pen...

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By *tella Heels OP   TV/TS
over a year ago

west here ford shire


"We can’t just say the damage is done and do nothing further. That’s abdicating responsibility. "

Pathetic!

So you just give up?

Too late we’re all doomed captain mannering

Get a backbone lad!!!

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By *tella Heels OP   TV/TS
over a year ago

west here ford shire


"Why is the onus on the consumer?

I recycle all my waste and pay the local authority to dispose of it responsibly.

Its them thats not honouring the contract."

I’ll tell you why, the large conglomerates such as Walmart McDonald’s Tesco “every little helps”

Don’t give a flying fuck!!

Until we start saying no!!!

They ain’t going to listen

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By *crumdiddlyumptiousMan
over a year ago

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Certain plastics can't be recycled if they reduce the amount that they produce and recycle the rest it would help,

The amount of waist that goes to landfills has reduced by a huge amount in the last few years

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By *ultry SuccubusTV/TS
over a year ago

London


"Certain plastics can't be recycled if they reduce the amount that they produce and recycle the rest it would help,

The amount of waist that goes to landfills has reduced by a huge amount in the last few years "

Has it?

Or did they ship it to other countries

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By *rontier PsychiatristMan
over a year ago

Coventry

The world doesn't need to address plastic, it needs to address is endless mass consumption and our disposable nature. Replacing all the plastic things with non plastic things is not the answer. Plastic is actually a wonderful material, just way over produced. The problem with plastic replacements (as posed by a UN study) is that plastic alternatives have a far bigger carbon impact on the environment than the plastic they replace. Mainly in terms of the energy involved in production, masive increase in weight (more transportation pollution) and the impact of increased harvesting of natural plans and trees. So simply to replace plastic with alternatives we take plastic out of water but we increase the pollution to the air we breath instead.

So the problem is not plastic, it's over consumption and our disposable habits. But I fear the real answer is not what people want to hear. We love or easy disposable lifestyles.

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By *ollydoesWoman
over a year ago

Shangri-La

When I was 19 was lucky enough to visit Alaska. Most beautiful place on earth. The ship we were on spent a couple of hours hanging around glacier bay..people were mesmerised every time a big chunk of ice Berg would fall off and Into the clear blue water. The sound was crazy loud. All the people out on deck giving it oooh ahhh wow...and listening to them speak about global warming and how the planet is warming up and we should do something to stop it before things like icebergs dont exist anymore.. I turned to a American who had just said pretty much that and just said "ironic ain't it, you saying that, considering what we are doing now" just looked at me blankly...even I knew at 17 (how old I was then) that some of the problem is what we were doing right then..there were 4/5 other ships there that day..all giving off heat and massive carbon footprints..just so people can go on a nice holiday and sit warm staring out into the cold discussing what more can be done to save the ice bergs...

Not suggesting we stop going on holidays!

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By *ollydoesWoman
over a year ago

Shangri-La


"Certain plastics can't be recycled if they reduce the amount that they produce and recycle the rest it would help,

The amount of waist that goes to landfills has reduced by a huge amount in the last few years

Has it?

Or did they ship it to other countries "

I believe we send alot of our rubbish to China?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I actually think the UK is quite good with plastic usage compared to other places in Europe. I'm in tenerife now and the supermarkets have plastic for everything. Disposable Plastic gloves to select fruit and bread items rather than the reusable tongs we have in England. Then obviously bottled water. Cans of pop have plastic attaching them together. Plastic round most food items etc etc

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By *tella Heels OP   TV/TS
over a year ago

west here ford shire


"I actually think the UK is quite good with plastic usage compared to other places in Europe. I'm in tenerife now and the supermarkets have plastic for everything. Disposable Plastic gloves to select fruit and bread items rather than the reusable tongs we have in England. Then obviously bottled water. Cans of pop have plastic attaching them together. Plastic round most food items etc etc "
misguided

McDonald’s look at the plastic single use items, they stopped the straw, yet all lids are plastic,

Fruit, meat, veg, all in plastic packaging, vertically everything now is vacuum packed, most electrical goods are using foam or plastic wrapping.

Costa coffee and Starbucks use plastic lids

Why can’t we have porcelain cups you but that have tubber re useable lids that fit their machines???

It’s virtually everywhere!!

Jiffy bags, sweets, pet food multi packs all plastic wrapping

Not necessary!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I miss plastic straws... have to buy them off ebay.com now"

Ill give you a reusable 1 next time, just remind me

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By *ensualbicockMan
over a year ago

liverpool wavertree picton clock

everyone needs to watch George Carlin rant on plastic ........Genius

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By *crumdiddlyumptiousMan
over a year ago

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"Certain plastics can't be recycled if they reduce the amount that they produce and recycle the rest it would help,

The amount of waist that goes to landfills has reduced by a huge amount in the last few years

Has it?

Or did they ship it to other countries "

Large recycling/scrap companies have invested millions into ways of reducing the amount waste that goes to landfill,

small steps but I would say its helping

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I miss plastic straws... have to buy them off ebay.com now

Ill give you a reusable 1 next time, just remind me "

Woooo (kiss)

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By *ensualbicockMan
over a year ago

liverpool wavertree picton clock

thinking now , Michael Jackson wanted to save the earth , you think he could of at least made sure he was biodegradable before he died

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By *i1971Man
over a year ago

Cornwall

I try to buy most of my veg from the local greengrocer. All the produce is loose (apart from punnets of strawberries/blueberries etc - but they will take the punnets back & you can always tip the punnets into your own container & they can reuse it). Generally take a box with me or hey one there to take it home.

Wasn't so long ago that almost all supermarkets had a stash of cardboard boxes you could raid to take your goods home in.

We used to have a shop called something like Weigh & Save where all dry goods were in huge bins & you scooped out the quantities you wanted. Mainly paper bags I think or you could bring your own containers.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I actually think the UK is quite good with plastic usage compared to other places in Europe. I'm in tenerife now and the supermarkets have plastic for everything. Disposable Plastic gloves to select fruit and bread items rather than the reusable tongs we have in England. Then obviously bottled water. Cans of pop have plastic attaching them together. Plastic round most food items etc etc misguided

McDonald’s look at the plastic single use items, they stopped the straw, yet all lids are plastic,

Fruit, meat, veg, all in plastic packaging, vertically everything now is vacuum packed, most electrical goods are using foam or plastic wrapping.

Costa coffee and Starbucks use plastic lids

Why can’t we have porcelain cups you but that have tubber re useable lids that fit their machines???

It’s virtually everywhere!!

Jiffy bags, sweets, pet food multi packs all plastic wrapping

Not necessary!!!!"

No I'm not misguided I'm stating a fact that the UK is better than a lot of other European places!!

I live in a village I'm lucky enough to have local farm shops where i can get fresh food in paper bags, take my own containers for products etc but even without that the UK are found much better than other places

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We can’t just say the damage is done and do nothing further. That’s abdicating responsibility.

Pathetic!

So you just give up?

Too late we’re all doomed captain mannering

Get a backbone lad!!!

"

I think you need to reread what I said.. Quite the opposite.

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By *ultry SuccubusTV/TS
over a year ago

London


"Certain plastics can't be recycled if they reduce the amount that they produce and recycle the rest it would help,

The amount of waist that goes to landfills has reduced by a huge amount in the last few years

Has it?

Or did they ship it to other countries

I believe we send alot of our rubbish to China? "

Not sure about China but recently one of South East Asian countries, discovered that tonnes of plastics are being sent (without proper authorisation) over to the country from the UK and now are sending them back.

Another neighbouring country received from Canada, and is trying to send them back as well.

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