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Been conned out of 10k!

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By *lem-H-Fandango OP   Man
over a year ago

salisbury

And they want more!! This is what's happening at the moment to my elderly mother, she says is "aware" she's probably being conned. But she's bored... she's basically aiding her own abuser here, just a guy on the end of her phone. Apart from physically removing the router and her mobile phone, what can i do? Has any crime actually taken place?!

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By *acktar74Man
over a year ago

leeds

Theft by deception

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not if she says she is aware?

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By *uke olovingmanMan
over a year ago

Gravesend

Yes .. report it to the police

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

what is she being conned of?

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By *lem-H-Fandango OP   Man
over a year ago

salisbury


"Theft by deception"

It started with him saying he could invest her cash, and treble her money or whatever. It all got lost in "bad shares". Now he says with a bit more cash he might be able to get it back.... my brother caught him remotely controlling her PC while he looked for access to more accounts.

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By *lem-H-Fandango OP   Man
over a year ago

salisbury


"what is she being conned of?"

Her savings, and my late sister's savings.

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks


"Theft by deception

It started with him saying he could invest her cash, and treble her money or whatever. It all got lost in "bad shares". Now he says with a bit more cash he might be able to get it back.... my brother caught him remotely controlling her PC while he looked for access to more accounts. "

Clear offences there mate. Call the Po Po.

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By *manaWoman
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"And they want more!! This is what's happening at the moment to my elderly mother, she says is "aware" she's probably being conned. But she's bored... she's basically aiding her own abuser here, just a guy on the end of her phone. Apart from physically removing the router and her mobile phone, what can i do? Has any crime actually taken place?!"

Yes it's a crime. Vulnerable adult... call the police!

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By *c1989Woman
over a year ago

Manchester

Saw something similar recently on watchdog or the one show.

Definitely theft by deception.

Stop her before it gets any worse.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’m pretty sure that ratting someone’s computer is a crime in itself. Go straight to the boys in blue. Try and write down everything you have: phone numbers, e-mail, alleged name/name of company, times of contact etc.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Theft by deception

It started with him saying he could invest her cash, and treble her money or whatever. It all got lost in "bad shares". Now he says with a bit more cash he might be able to get it back.... my brother caught him remotely controlling her PC while he looked for access to more accounts. "

It's fraud by misrepresentation. Call the police now!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Theft by deception

It started with him saying he could invest her cash, and treble her money or whatever. It all got lost in "bad shares". Now he says with a bit more cash he might be able to get it back.... my brother caught him remotely controlling her PC while he looked for access to more accounts.

It's fraud by misrepresentation. Call the police now! "

I’m sure fraud is a misrepresentation. It’s a bit like saying someone was murdered to death.

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By *stellaWoman
over a year ago

London

Really sorry to hear this has happened, Clem.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Theft by deception

It started with him saying he could invest her cash, and treble her money or whatever. It all got lost in "bad shares". Now he says with a bit more cash he might be able to get it back.... my brother caught him remotely controlling her PC while he looked for access to more accounts.

Clear offences there mate. Call the Po Po. "

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By *c1989Woman
over a year ago

Manchester


"Theft by deception

It started with him saying he could invest her cash, and treble her money or whatever. It all got lost in "bad shares". Now he says with a bit more cash he might be able to get it back.... my brother caught him remotely controlling her PC while he looked for access to more accounts.

It's fraud by misrepresentation. Call the police now!

I’m sure fraud is a misrepresentation. It’s a bit like saying someone was murdered to death. "

There are a few different types of fraud offence.

One is false representation. Another abuse of position.

But I take your point .

But then there is a difference between murder, voluntary/involuntary manslaughter etc

The law can be complicated sometimes.

Anyway, OP. ActionFraud if its still a thing might be able to assist.

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By *iesel74Man
over a year ago

carryduff

Action fraud website will give you the best advice. Dependant on who she banks with, some of it might be recoverable.

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

Possibly they are working from abroad.. act now

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Terribe hope it got sorted..

On a side note i have to say one thing...

Yes i can hear you clem fandango!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Reset passwords, explain to her bank and report to the police. If money has been taken electronically it can be traced. If it's gone overseas it may prove more difficult.

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By *upremexMan
over a year ago

liverpool. huyton. near yewtree

You should go to the police as soon as possible.

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By *019ReadyCouple
over a year ago

Leeds

I hate to hear of anything like this! How awful for your Mum & you as someone who cares about her wellbeing & her interests.

So scary what can happen these days!

Hope you manage to get it stopped / investigated asap. Good luck!

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

A similar thing happened to my mum. How did he get access to remotely control her computer? My mum had to follow instructions to allow the guy to install the software.

As difficult as it is you might need to stop her having access to the net until this is sorted. How tech savvy is she? Would she know if you just unplugged the router and blamed it on a 'virus'? In the meantime speak to the police (although we had to insist several times that it was actually fraud) get a crime number if possible then talk to her bank.

I'm sorry this has happened there is nothing that makes a person more angry than seeing their mum get conned

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So sorry to hear this and it’s very difficult to get the money back as most of these con artists are sitting on another continent. However you really should inform the police to stop any more money being transferred and to stop your mam’s details from being passed around to other con artists.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A boiler room scam . Similar to what you see early on in The Wolf of Wall Street . Penny stocks or basically worthless shares.

It's fraud. Tell the old bill .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

There are a few different types of fraud offence.

One is false representation. Another abuse of position.

But I take your point .

But then there is a difference between murder, voluntary/involuntary manslaughter etc

The law can be complicated sometimes.

Anyway, OP. ActionFraud if its still a thing might be able to assist.

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It’s amazing how much law I remember despite being out of the police force for over 20 years. . Although policing has changed a lot since I was in.

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By *iamondCougarWoman
over a year ago

Norfuck! / Lincolnshire

Make the spyware is removed from her laptop too

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

Also go into her settings and set the security so that no third party can access her computer. Remove the current spyware first

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By *lay4RealCouple
over a year ago

London


"Also go into her settings and set the security so that no third party can access her computer. Remove the current spyware first "

How do you do that?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Theft by deception

It started with him saying he could invest her cash, and treble her money or whatever. It all got lost in "bad shares". Now he says with a bit more cash he might be able to get it back.... my brother caught him remotely controlling her PC while he looked for access to more accounts. "

That horrific I would most definitely phone the police also remove her router and mobile

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sorry to hear this. It sounds a definite crime.

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By *ensualpleasures69Man
over a year ago

leeds

I would disconnect her connection first for sure.

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By *lem-H-Fandango OP   Man
over a year ago

salisbury

I don't live locally to my mum (and dad, he had no idea what was going on, she only made contact with the guy while he was out) my brother has been around and removed the power supply to the router. Ive also suggested she give up her smart phone.

The way she is not concerned about the money is making us wonder about early onset dementia.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Theft by deception

It started with him saying he could invest her cash, and treble her money or whatever. It all got lost in "bad shares". Now he says with a bit more cash he might be able to get it back.... my brother caught him remotely controlling her PC while he looked for access to more accounts. "

Check out Scammer Revolts on YouTube. You'll see all there dirty tricks.

Never give anyone remote access to your pc as they start looking in your files for bank record and site you have visited.

But if they try it on and your brave....

If you can get them to connect to your side don't switch sides to give them access. you can then delete all their files and SysKey the fuckers.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Also go into her settings and set the security so that no third party can access her computer. Remove the current spyware first

How do you do that?"

Go "Control panel"

Then "System and security settings"

Uncheck the box that says "allow remote access on this computer"

Do a Search online for a full explanation.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Theft by deception

It started with him saying he could invest her cash, and treble her money or whatever. It all got lost in "bad shares". Now he says with a bit more cash he might be able to get it back.... my brother caught him remotely controlling her PC while he looked for access to more accounts.

That horrific I would most definitely phone the police also remove her router and mobile "

They usualy call from a India so not a lot they can do.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Also go into her settings and set the security so that no third party can access her computer. Remove the current spyware first

How do you do that?

Go "Control panel"

Then "System and security settings"

Uncheck the box that says "allow remote access on this computer"

Do a Search online for a full explanation."

That won’t work if it’s an actual rat. Reformatting sometimes can’t even resolve it. It’s a Trojan opposed to a team viewer esque rat.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Theft by deception

It started with him saying he could invest her cash, and treble her money or whatever. It all got lost in "bad shares". Now he says with a bit more cash he might be able to get it back.... my brother caught him remotely controlling her PC while he looked for access to more accounts. "

Offering investment advice without the proper authorizations is a crime, check out the FCA website. But definitely call the police.

You also need to get the computer checked for malware. Disconnect it from the internet ASAP!

Q

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Also go into her settings and set the security so that no third party can access her computer. Remove the current spyware first

How do you do that?

Go "Control panel"

Then "System and security settings"

Uncheck the box that says "allow remote access on this computer"

Do a Search online for a full explanation.

That won’t work if it’s an actual rat. Reformatting sometimes can’t even resolve it. It’s a Trojan opposed to a team viewer esque rat. "

Chances are it won't be, but its still worth disabling.

Most of these scammers are not very computer savvy themselves, they just read from script like most call centers. All they can do is try and get remote access and SysKey the pc as a last resort to get try and get paid to unlock it.

As they know the homeowner us elderly they'll keep calling back as it worked the first time. If they Trojaned the pc they wouldn't need to call back to scam more cash.

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By *uzukiNo1Woman
over a year ago

Rhyl


"I don't live locally to my mum (and dad, he had no idea what was going on, she only made contact with the guy while he was out) my brother has been around and removed the power supply to the router. Ive also suggested she give up her smart phone.

The way she is not concerned about the money is making us wonder about early onset dementia. "

Call the police report it,that's first then call your mums docter tell him what's been going on and your concerns ask for a home visit with you present....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Have the phone number changed also.

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By *lem-H-Fandango OP   Man
over a year ago

salisbury

Thanks for all the advice guys n gals!

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By *adbury girlWoman
over a year ago

Lanarkshire

Not sure exactly how things work in your mum's area but you could try contacting their local social work office and say your mum is vulnerable at the moment, possibly socially isolated and as such an adult at risk as she is making financial decisions that do not benefit her. If she is doing this because she is bored then maybe some social inclusion from social work may help or they may be able to advise you on how to move forward with your mum to prevent more loss.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"I don't live locally to my mum (and dad, he had no idea what was going on, she only made contact with the guy while he was out) my brother has been around and removed the power supply to the router. Ive also suggested she give up her smart phone.

The way she is not concerned about the money is making us wonder about early onset dementia. "

That's a possibility but it could also be that the guy who's conning her has told her that she shouldn't tell anyone for various reasons. These people are devoid of any conscience and will do anything

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By *xperimentalistMan
over a year ago

East Yorkshire

Police now, think how many others they could be doing it to as well

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By *lem-H-Fandango OP   Man
over a year ago

salisbury


"Police now, think how many others they could be doing it to as well "

Done. They've given her an report number.

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