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"This is a first for me, being in a "swinging" couple. Already I've noticed my outlook and approach to finding potential playmates is completely different. Has anyone else experienced this? What advice would you give to a couple who are transitioning from being two singles in the scene? Thanks, Dotty x" In what way has your outlook and approach differed? | |||
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"Transitioning from the scene to being exclusive or to being in a couple that swings? Communication, patience and grace - my tips." Eventually we'd like to be a couple who swings. It's not something we're in a rush to do but it is something that turns us on. | |||
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"This is a first for me, being in a "swinging" couple. Already I've noticed my outlook and approach to finding potential playmates is completely different. Has anyone else experienced this? What advice would you give to a couple who are transitioning from being two singles in the scene? Thanks, Dotty x In what way has your outlook and approach differed?" Well when I was single I'd be looking for more of an emotional or intimate connection, I don't feel like I want or need that now because I have Tea, my criteria for potential playmates has become more physical I think. Obviously we still need to like them as a person. | |||
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"We are in this situation. We are still figuring it all out but we talk about it a lot, communication is key. " It's definitely important. I think discussing what we don't want is as important if not more than what what we do. | |||
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"I know bugger all...but here is my ten penth worth. Men usually have the biggest issues in this situation. Couples first, where the guy wants her to enjoy herself, are common. But a single guy on here has never shared. Some still have ownership issues. So just talk through what you both want and then take small steps and keep checking back. Talk loads and always be open and honest. " Luckily he's the more experienced one Dotty x | |||
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"I’d recommend talking through your baggage. We all have “already listening ears” - ways of interpreting things from previous relationships or close bonded others that are filters for how we hear all new things being said. If our partner can’t help spot when we are filtering or understand how that’s happening for us as we explain then communication can break down. Baggage is not just the problematic stuff but it’s the things that we like and feel uplifted by too. " Shame Tea isn’t a talker, eh?! I jest. | |||
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"How has your approach changed? I think mine did in that in the first instance I wasn't too bothered about finding others to join us as I was just enjoying what I had. Then I think we went through a stage where we communicated lots about what we both did and didn't want in terms of playing with others. What we've found in reality is that a four way attraction is difficult to come across and as we live far apart and seeing each other can be infrequent it becomes even harder to factor in meeting another couple. We've probably become more relaxed about the fact it's not easy to find and make the most of our trips to our favourite club VA" That sounds similar to us, we live hundreds of miles apart so arranging to spend time with each other is hard enough! We are looking to meet singles too so hopefully it won't be as hard to click with just one. We have discussed clubs and I think it might be the best route for us. Do you find that your rules are harder to stick to in a club? | |||
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"I’d recommend talking through your baggage. We all have “already listening ears” - ways of interpreting things from previous relationships or close bonded others that are filters for how we hear all new things being said. If our partner can’t help spot when we are filtering or understand how that’s happening for us as we explain then communication can break down. Baggage is not just the problematic stuff but it’s the things that we like and feel uplifted by too. Shame Tea isn’t a talker, eh?! I jest. " Yes. He's just a wee quiet thing Dotty x | |||
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"How has your approach changed? I think mine did in that in the first instance I wasn't too bothered about finding others to join us as I was just enjoying what I had. Then I think we went through a stage where we communicated lots about what we both did and didn't want in terms of playing with others. What we've found in reality is that a four way attraction is difficult to come across and as we live far apart and seeing each other can be infrequent it becomes even harder to factor in meeting another couple. We've probably become more relaxed about the fact it's not easy to find and make the most of our trips to our favourite club VA That sounds similar to us, we live hundreds of miles apart so arranging to spend time with each other is hard enough! We are looking to meet singles too so hopefully it won't be as hard to click with just one. We have discussed clubs and I think it might be the best route for us. Do you find that your rules are harder to stick to in a club? " We are also looking to meet singles too but started off just looking to meet couples. I think the hardest thing is often the logistics for us as we don't live together and a meet with others may take some time to set up which doesn't always suit. I wouldn't say the rules are harder to stick to in a club but I've found it harder to communicate when in a situation in a club and sometimes we've even missed opportunities as we weren't 100% sure what the other was thinking. I'd rather it be this way round then him or I end up in a situation one of us isn't comfortable with | |||
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"It's lovely that you have met and are together through fab or the swing scene. Your both adults asking advise about transition from single to cpl, and how your going to carry on as cpl now, Really you can't figure it out. And I thought I was f**ked up" She wasn't saying she couldn't figure it out. She was simply asking for other people's experiences! | |||
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"It's lovely that you have met and are together through fab or the swing scene. Your both adults asking advise about transition from single to cpl, and how your going to carry on as cpl now, Really you can't figure it out. And I thought I was f**ked up" You're probably right. With the last sentence that is. | |||
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"It's lovely that you have met and are together through fab or the swing scene. Your both adults asking advise about transition from single to cpl, and how your going to carry on as cpl now, Really you can't figure it out. And I thought I was f**ked up" I think you misread my original post. I think you also missed the fact that forums are a place for discuss which is in fact what I asked for, experiences and advice. I never asked for anyone to get involved in my relationship nor do I have any doubt we will figure it out. But I do agree you probably did just fuck up. Dotty x | |||
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"It's lovely that you have met and are together through fab or the swing scene. Your both adults asking advise about transition from single to cpl, and how your going to carry on as cpl now, Really you can't figure it out. And I thought I was f**ked up" Yes, you're right; you are. It was a simple question asking for experiences and how others have approached things. Of course I'm sure you've never asked for advice or opinions from anyone in your life... Tea | |||
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"How has your approach changed? I think mine did in that in the first instance I wasn't too bothered about finding others to join us as I was just enjoying what I had. Then I think we went through a stage where we communicated lots about what we both did and didn't want in terms of playing with others. What we've found in reality is that a four way attraction is difficult to come across and as we live far apart and seeing each other can be infrequent it becomes even harder to factor in meeting another couple. We've probably become more relaxed about the fact it's not easy to find and make the most of our trips to our favourite club VA That sounds similar to us, we live hundreds of miles apart so arranging to spend time with each other is hard enough! We are looking to meet singles too so hopefully it won't be as hard to click with just one. We have discussed clubs and I think it might be the best route for us. Do you find that your rules are harder to stick to in a club? We are also looking to meet singles too but started off just looking to meet couples. I think the hardest thing is often the logistics for us as we don't live together and a meet with others may take some time to set up which doesn't always suit. I wouldn't say the rules are harder to stick to in a club but I've found it harder to communicate when in a situation in a club and sometimes we've even missed opportunities as we weren't 100% sure what the other was thinking. I'd rather it be this way round then him or I end up in a situation one of us isn't comfortable with" I see what you mean. Discussions in private are open and honest and there is no pressure whereas in a club there could be a sense of urgency or it might present something you hadn't previously discussed. I absolutely agree with the last part. I think it's probably the most important thing. Dotty x | |||
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"How has your approach changed? I think mine did in that in the first instance I wasn't too bothered about finding others to join us as I was just enjoying what I had. Then I think we went through a stage where we communicated lots about what we both did and didn't want in terms of playing with others. What we've found in reality is that a four way attraction is difficult to come across and as we live far apart and seeing each other can be infrequent it becomes even harder to factor in meeting another couple. We've probably become more relaxed about the fact it's not easy to find and make the most of our trips to our favourite club VA That sounds similar to us, we live hundreds of miles apart so arranging to spend time with each other is hard enough! We are looking to meet singles too so hopefully it won't be as hard to click with just one. We have discussed clubs and I think it might be the best route for us. Do you find that your rules are harder to stick to in a club? We are also looking to meet singles too but started off just looking to meet couples. I think the hardest thing is often the logistics for us as we don't live together and a meet with others may take some time to set up which doesn't always suit. I wouldn't say the rules are harder to stick to in a club but I've found it harder to communicate when in a situation in a club and sometimes we've even missed opportunities as we weren't 100% sure what the other was thinking. I'd rather it be this way round then him or I end up in a situation one of us isn't comfortable with I see what you mean. Discussions in private are open and honest and there is no pressure whereas in a club there could be a sense of urgency or it might present something you hadn't previously discussed. I absolutely agree with the last part. I think it's probably the most important thing. Dotty x" We did at one point have a code word for people we found attractive | |||
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"How has your approach changed? I think mine did in that in the first instance I wasn't too bothered about finding others to join us as I was just enjoying what I had. Then I think we went through a stage where we communicated lots about what we both did and didn't want in terms of playing with others. What we've found in reality is that a four way attraction is difficult to come across and as we live far apart and seeing each other can be infrequent it becomes even harder to factor in meeting another couple. We've probably become more relaxed about the fact it's not easy to find and make the most of our trips to our favourite club VA That sounds similar to us, we live hundreds of miles apart so arranging to spend time with each other is hard enough! We are looking to meet singles too so hopefully it won't be as hard to click with just one. We have discussed clubs and I think it might be the best route for us. Do you find that your rules are harder to stick to in a club? We are also looking to meet singles too but started off just looking to meet couples. I think the hardest thing is often the logistics for us as we don't live together and a meet with others may take some time to set up which doesn't always suit. I wouldn't say the rules are harder to stick to in a club but I've found it harder to communicate when in a situation in a club and sometimes we've even missed opportunities as we weren't 100% sure what the other was thinking. I'd rather it be this way round then him or I end up in a situation one of us isn't comfortable with I see what you mean. Discussions in private are open and honest and there is no pressure whereas in a club there could be a sense of urgency or it might present something you hadn't previously discussed. I absolutely agree with the last part. I think it's probably the most important thing. Dotty x We did at one point have a code word for people we found attractive " You'll have to tell us it!! | |||
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"Wow body shape insults and judgements and to think you were all against that in another thread wow hypothetic jumps out of the screen pmsl " Calm down, and chillax | |||
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"Wow body shape insults and judgements and to think you were all against that in another thread wow hypothetic jumps out of the screen pmsl " Hypothetic? | |||
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"It's lovely that you have met and are together through fab or the swing scene. Your both adults asking advise about transition from single to cpl, and how your going to carry on as cpl now, Really you can't figure it out. And I thought I was f**ked up" What a rude response. It’s a completely different dynamic and experience being in the scene as a single than as a couple. The OP asked a pretty reasonable question. | |||
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"How has your approach changed? I think mine did in that in the first instance I wasn't too bothered about finding others to join us as I was just enjoying what I had. Then I think we went through a stage where we communicated lots about what we both did and didn't want in terms of playing with others. What we've found in reality is that a four way attraction is difficult to come across and as we live far apart and seeing each other can be infrequent it becomes even harder to factor in meeting another couple. We've probably become more relaxed about the fact it's not easy to find and make the most of our trips to our favourite club VA That sounds similar to us, we live hundreds of miles apart so arranging to spend time with each other is hard enough! We are looking to meet singles too so hopefully it won't be as hard to click with just one. We have discussed clubs and I think it might be the best route for us. Do you find that your rules are harder to stick to in a club? We are also looking to meet singles too but started off just looking to meet couples. I think the hardest thing is often the logistics for us as we don't live together and a meet with others may take some time to set up which doesn't always suit. I wouldn't say the rules are harder to stick to in a club but I've found it harder to communicate when in a situation in a club and sometimes we've even missed opportunities as we weren't 100% sure what the other was thinking. I'd rather it be this way round then him or I end up in a situation one of us isn't comfortable with I see what you mean. Discussions in private are open and honest and there is no pressure whereas in a club there could be a sense of urgency or it might present something you hadn't previously discussed. I absolutely agree with the last part. I think it's probably the most important thing. Dotty x We did at one point have a code word for people we found attractive " I’m not a couple on here (obvs!) but in my limited experience of trying to find another couple who I and partner (at the time) both found attractive was the difficult part, mainly on my side. Our code word was really easy - “OMG I’ve found a FIT man, we have a code FIT....!!”” | |||
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"Wow body shape insults and judgements and to think you were all against that in another thread wow hypothetic jumps out of the screen pmsl " I didn't see any of that but you take from it what you will. Can we get back to the OP now? Ta! Tea | |||
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"Wow body shape insults and judgements and to think you were all against that in another thread wow hypothetic jumps out of the screen pmsl " Where? | |||
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"Wow body shape insults and judgements and to think you were all against that in another thread wow hypothetic jumps out of the screen pmsl Calm down, and chillax " Totally relaxed, I think it's you that needs to chill And that hit a nerve didn't it the speed of your response at being hypocrite. | |||
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"Wow body shape insults and judgements and to think you were all against that in another thread wow hypothetic jumps out of the screen pmsl Where? " I’m still looking too. | |||
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"Wow body shape insults and judgements and to think you were all against that in another thread wow hypothetic jumps out of the screen pmsl Calm down, and chillax Totally relaxed, I think it's you that needs to chill And that hit a nerve didn't it the speed of your response at being hypocrite. " Not at all. You make me laugh. Glad you’re not talking about the hypothetical again. | |||
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"Transitioning from the scene to being exclusive or to being in a couple that swings? Communication, patience and grace - my tips." And tea, lots of tea.. | |||
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"Transitioning from the scene to being exclusive or to being in a couple that swings? Communication, patience and grace - my tips. And tea, lots of tea.. " I think that's covered... Tea | |||
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"How has your approach changed? I think mine did in that in the first instance I wasn't too bothered about finding others to join us as I was just enjoying what I had. Then I think we went through a stage where we communicated lots about what we both did and didn't want in terms of playing with others. What we've found in reality is that a four way attraction is difficult to come across and as we live far apart and seeing each other can be infrequent it becomes even harder to factor in meeting another couple. We've probably become more relaxed about the fact it's not easy to find and make the most of our trips to our favourite club VA That sounds similar to us, we live hundreds of miles apart so arranging to spend time with each other is hard enough! We are looking to meet singles too so hopefully it won't be as hard to click with just one. We have discussed clubs and I think it might be the best route for us. Do you find that your rules are harder to stick to in a club? We are also looking to meet singles too but started off just looking to meet couples. I think the hardest thing is often the logistics for us as we don't live together and a meet with others may take some time to set up which doesn't always suit. I wouldn't say the rules are harder to stick to in a club but I've found it harder to communicate when in a situation in a club and sometimes we've even missed opportunities as we weren't 100% sure what the other was thinking. I'd rather it be this way round then him or I end up in a situation one of us isn't comfortable with" We have rules? | |||
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"We are in this situation. We are still figuring it all out but we talk about it a lot, communication is key. It's definitely important. I think discussing what we don't want is as important if not more than what what we do. " Yes definitely that's where we started and worked from there. | |||
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"How has your approach changed? I think mine did in that in the first instance I wasn't too bothered about finding others to join us as I was just enjoying what I had. Then I think we went through a stage where we communicated lots about what we both did and didn't want in terms of playing with others. What we've found in reality is that a four way attraction is difficult to come across and as we live far apart and seeing each other can be infrequent it becomes even harder to factor in meeting another couple. We've probably become more relaxed about the fact it's not easy to find and make the most of our trips to our favourite club VA That sounds similar to us, we live hundreds of miles apart so arranging to spend time with each other is hard enough! We are looking to meet singles too so hopefully it won't be as hard to click with just one. We have discussed clubs and I think it might be the best route for us. Do you find that your rules are harder to stick to in a club? We are also looking to meet singles too but started off just looking to meet couples. I think the hardest thing is often the logistics for us as we don't live together and a meet with others may take some time to set up which doesn't always suit. I wouldn't say the rules are harder to stick to in a club but I've found it harder to communicate when in a situation in a club and sometimes we've even missed opportunities as we weren't 100% sure what the other was thinking. I'd rather it be this way round then him or I end up in a situation one of us isn't comfortable with We have rules? " Just one. Do as Miss.Red tells you | |||
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"Don't go for what one of you wants mix it up a bit so you both get gratification . Good luck " I don't think either of us would want that, luckily we both want the same things! | |||
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"The thing I've found the hardest are the feelings I absolutely wasn't expecting. I thought I'd be totally cool with almost everything the lifestyle had to offer. My head say yes - my insideys say FUCK NO! I feel the reasoning is the distance and lack of time together. Then there's the point I am finding myself struggling to trust other people (women) that I don't know (and some that I do) What you think you want and what you are comfortable with could be totally different. Once something is done, it can't be undone. That frightens me I can't deny it. Communicate, I probably overshare, and my mind and opinion change like the wind so it must be pretty confusing for B, but we can only go on what we feel at the time. Miss.Red pretty much has it nailed as to everything else I can think of. P " That does worry me too. Tea has done this before but the whole thing is completely new to me and I don't know how I will feel, I know the idea turns me on but I am prepared for the possibility that reality won't live up. | |||
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"Wow body shape insults and judgements and to think you were all against that in another thread wow hypothetic jumps out of the screen pmsl Calm down, and chillax Totally relaxed, I think it's you that needs to chill And that hit a nerve didn't it the speed of your response at being hypocrite. Not at all. You make me laugh. Glad you’re not talking about the hypothetical again. " He was right though,if people body shame one person while objecting to it for others then it is hypocritical. I am sure the typo wasn't intentional and most people would know that . | |||
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"Back to the OP. If he wants to come and fling insults with me, the lovely chap can come to the grumpy thread, rather than ruin Dotty’s. Sorry, D. " Or not....keep the insults away from the forum, as you were the first to insult then it was you who sent the thread a different way | |||
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"To the OP , contrary to one comment we all need advice now and then no matter what subject it is or how old we are. You have had some great advice on this thread, for us communication and honesty was the key.Good luck and I hope you have many fun times ahead" Thanks Ruggers, that seems to be the running theme of responses from this thread. Thanks to everyone who responded, it's nice to get the helpful insight. Tea | |||
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"Can't really add to the excellent advice already offered OP however one suggestion that might help you both focus your minds on what you really want from this - both independently write lists of what you'd like to get from swinging or even just life as a couple, as well as what you don't want, and also boundaries you think should be in place - once done get together and compare notes, and there you find your common ground. Can be as detailed or extensive as you like." I love that idea! | |||
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