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"If the child is in the nursery , I’d be letting them know as it’s s cause of concern " I did among other parents and grand parents too | |||
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"Some people just shouldnt breed... Av xx" Controversial but not without merit. | |||
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"Jesus h! Seriously report back to the nursery.....that poor kid! " there was at least 6 other parents have repirted the matter to the teachers on yard duty. | |||
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"These are the words I have just heard a mother scream at her 4 year old child, while picking my grandson up from little legs nursery. Why on earth do people do this or think it's acceptable " ANIMAL. | |||
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"Jesus h! Seriously report back to the nursery.....that poor kid! there was at least 6 other parents have repirted the matter to the teachers on yard duty." That's good,horrible way to treat a child... | |||
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"These are the words I have just heard a mother scream at her 4 year old child, while picking my grandson up from little legs nursery. Why on earth do people do this or think it's acceptable " I was in a bar the other day avoiding the rain a mother pushchair filled with child her partner and his mate came in, the two guys were d*unk swearing like troopers, they then proceeded to talk about both the guys having had sex with the woman, the dad then tried to put the buckles of the baby chair on her as asked by the mother the child screamed because he was trying to do this so we were all treated to another bout of swearing lol its unfortunately quite a common occurrence now, what the future holds who knows | |||
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"Jesus h! Seriously report back to the nursery.....that poor kid! there was at least 6 other parents have repirted the matter to the teachers on yard duty." If that’s what they do in public, it makes you wonder what goes on behind closed doors | |||
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"I know it's no excuse, but maybe their parents brought them up like that? " O lord, two wrongs and all that eh...no your right it's not | |||
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"These are the words I have just heard a mother scream at her 4 year old child, while picking my grandson up from little legs nursery. Why on earth do people do this or think it's acceptable " I was on a flight last year returning home from somewhere nowhere near as wet as here. We'd just boarded when a doctor came on to check on a little girl, around 5 years old. The doc told her parents that she was too ill to fly and they'd have to leave the plane. They were sitting by us so I could hear everything. The mother turned to the cabin crew and said "Can't we just sign a form and take the risk?". | |||
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"These are the words I have just heard a mother scream at her 4 year old child, while picking my grandson up from little legs nursery. Why on earth do people do this or think it's acceptable I was on a flight last year returning home from somewhere nowhere near as wet as here. We'd just boarded when a doctor came on to check on a little girl, around 5 years old. The doc told her parents that she was too ill to fly and they'd have to leave the plane. They were sitting by us so I could hear everything. The mother turned to the cabin crew and said "Can't we just sign a form and take the risk?"." | |||
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"These are the words I have just heard a mother scream at her 4 year old child, while picking my grandson up from little legs nursery. Why on earth do people do this or think it's acceptable I was on a flight last year returning home from somewhere nowhere near as wet as here. We'd just boarded when a doctor came on to check on a little girl, around 5 years old. The doc told her parents that she was too ill to fly and they'd have to leave the plane. They were sitting by us so I could hear everything. The mother turned to the cabin crew and said "Can't we just sign a form and take the risk?". " | |||
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"As they spark up a Lambert & Butler and screech away with no seatbelts on (probably). It baffles me it really does - I know children are ridiculously difficult at times but there’s just no excuse for that. " This was reported too as like I mentioned the child was told to get into the car. The mother didn't help her into a child seat just drive away | |||
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" She cant even use the "I'm in a hurry to get back for Jezza Kyle" now either. " I've never watched it or the American version | |||
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"I feel bad for laughing but I can't help it " What makes you laugh...??? It is awful. | |||
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" She cant even use the "I'm in a hurry to get back for Jezza Kyle" now either. I've never watched it or the American version " Same here, just glad it's been banned. | |||
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" She cant even use the "I'm in a hurry to get back for Jezza Kyle" now either. I've never watched it or the American version Same here, just glad it's been banned. " took deaths to stop it though, kinda sad really | |||
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"That's made me sad.Poor kid." Me too. I was gonna comment earlier but didn’t really know what to say. That’s it. It makes me very sad | |||
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"It's not acceptable and as a parent I would have a duty of care to report it to the nursery K " 100% This. Jo.Xx | |||
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" She cant even use the "I'm in a hurry to get back for Jezza Kyle" now either. I've never watched it or the American version Same here, just glad it's been banned. took deaths to stop it though, kinda sad really " How come Love Island is still on then? | |||
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" She cant even use the "I'm in a hurry to get back for Jezza Kyle" now either. I've never watched it or the American version Same here, just glad it's been banned. took deaths to stop it though, kinda sad really How come Love Island is still on then?" the one with the dwarf oh sorry thought you meant fantasy island | |||
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" She cant even use the "I'm in a hurry to get back for Jezza Kyle" now either. I've never watched it or the American version Same here, just glad it's been banned. took deaths to stop it though, kinda sad really How come Love Island is still on then?" Never watched that either but not sure psychologically how that scenario drives a young person to suicide, I think that's more to do with the person and the pressures that life puts on young people to look good and conform to the styles and looks that make you ' cool ' it's kind of a theme in this lifestyle to | |||
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"I think some people don’t see swearing as wrong in any way. And they don’t see it as unacceptable in front of children. It is though. " This is more than just swearing around children this is abuse. | |||
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"I think some people don’t see swearing as wrong in any way. And they don’t see it as unacceptable in front of children. It is though. " There's swearing in front of children, and there's swearing at them. | |||
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"I think some people don’t see swearing as wrong in any way. And they don’t see it as unacceptable in front of children. It is though. " agreed swearing is common place now and no thought as to who's listening | |||
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"These are the words I have just heard a mother scream at her 4 year old child, while picking my grandson up from little legs nursery. Why on earth do people do this or think it's acceptable " Just scum of the earth! | |||
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"Just an Update on this. Took grandson to nursery earlier on and the head and deputy head were waiting for the mother to pull into the car park. She was told she isn't allowed on school grounds anymore and must arrange for her child to be dropped off by another member of the family. If she does not comply with their rules the child will then be excluded from the nursery group and letters will be sent out to surrounding nurseries. They are also going to monitor the child further " That’s good and hope they’ve reported to social services, or whatever the correct procedure is these days. Not sure about the child being excluded and letters sent out though. It’s not the child’s fault | |||
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"Just an Update on this. Took grandson to nursery earlier on and the head and deputy head were waiting for the mother to pull into the car park. She was told she isn't allowed on school grounds anymore and must arrange for her child to be dropped off by another member of the family. If she does not comply with their rules the child will then be excluded from the nursery group and letters will be sent out to surrounding nurseries. They are also going to monitor the child further That’s good and hope they’ve reported to social services, or whatever the correct procedure is these days. Not sure about the child being excluded and letters sent out though. It’s not the child’s fault " I'll try and find out more when I pick him up at 3 | |||
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"Just an Update on this. Took grandson to nursery earlier on and the head and deputy head were waiting for the mother to pull into the car park. She was told she isn't allowed on school grounds anymore and must arrange for her child to be dropped off by another member of the family. If she does not comply with their rules the child will then be excluded from the nursery group and letters will be sent out to surrounding nurseries. They are also going to monitor the child further That’s good and hope they’ve reported to social services, or whatever the correct procedure is these days. Not sure about the child being excluded and letters sent out though. It’s not the child’s fault I'll try and find out more when I pick him up at 3" But what if the mother does not comply as you put it, the poor child then suffers by not being allowed in to nursery ? That might be the only place it can socialise with others, also the first place nursery staff can pick up on neglect If you ask me the nursery needs reporting too | |||
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"Many schools now provide additional help for children in the form of teaching assistants to deal with children with SEN and many of them if not all are from dysfunctional families whose parents also get guidance, each child that comes under SEN can be allocated £6,000 pa or at least the school can be allocated that and many schools are finding this an absolute bonus, not really much they can do about the ever increasing population of ignorant people and parents though. " That’s a totally different thing! SEN is nothing to do with abusive parents. | |||
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"Many schools now provide additional help for children in the form of teaching assistants to deal with children with SEN and many of them if not all are from dysfunctional families whose parents also get guidance, each child that comes under SEN can be allocated £6,000 pa or at least the school can be allocated that and many schools are finding this an absolute bonus, not really much they can do about the ever increasing population of ignorant people and parents though. That’s a totally different thing! SEN is nothing to do with abusive parents. " Many of them if not all!! Jesus Christ. Are you for real? | |||
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"Many schools now provide additional help for children in the form of teaching assistants to deal with children with SEN and many of them if not all are from dysfunctional families whose parents also get guidance, each child that comes under SEN can be allocated £6,000 pa or at least the school can be allocated that and many schools are finding this an absolute bonus, not really much they can do about the ever increasing population of ignorant people and parents though. That’s a totally different thing! SEN is nothing to do with abusive parents. " SEN exists because of them, parents going through unpleasant divorces, substance abuse parents, lower income parents, abusive parents, depression, uneducated and ignorant parents it all takes it toll on the innocent children. | |||
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"Many schools now provide additional help for children in the form of teaching assistants to deal with children with SEN and many of them if not all are from dysfunctional families whose parents also get guidance, each child that comes under SEN can be allocated £6,000 pa or at least the school can be allocated that and many schools are finding this an absolute bonus, not really much they can do about the ever increasing population of ignorant people and parents though. That’s a totally different thing! SEN is nothing to do with abusive parents. SEN exists because of them, parents going through unpleasant divorces, substance abuse parents, lower income parents, abusive parents, depression, uneducated and ignorant parents it all takes it toll on the innocent children. " Good lord. I’m not even going to bother commenting on that. I’m actually speechless right now. | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 14/06/19 15:34:35]" Can’t even be bothered with that essay either. Ignorance is a very sad thing. Never been so angry with a post on here in my life. I’m out before I get banned. | |||
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"Many schools now provide additional help for children in the form of teaching assistants to deal with children with SEN and many of them if not all are from dysfunctional families whose parents also get guidance, each child that comes under SEN can be allocated £6,000 pa or at least the school can be allocated that and many schools are finding this an absolute bonus, not really much they can do about the ever increasing population of ignorant people and parents though. That’s a totally different thing! SEN is nothing to do with abusive parents. SEN exists because of them, parents going through unpleasant divorces, substance abuse parents, lower income parents, abusive parents, depression, uneducated and ignorant parents it all takes it toll on the innocent children. " I think you need to do a little reading as to what SEN actually is. It has absolutely nothing to do with the parents. Google autism, ADHD, cerebral palsy and then come back when you're ready to take your comments back. Tea | |||
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"My daughter is under sen due to being starved of oxygen during birth nothing to do with her upbringing or are we a terrible perants for wanting a natural birth" People like that aren’t even worth the time trying to explain. I wouldn’t even bother x Maybe this should go back to the original op | |||
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"Just an Update on this. Took grandson to nursery earlier on and the head and deputy head were waiting for the mother to pull into the car park. She was told she isn't allowed on school grounds anymore and must arrange for her child to be dropped off by another member of the family. If she does not comply with their rules the child will then be excluded from the nursery group and letters will be sent out to surrounding nurseries. They are also going to monitor the child further " Shame they have not used this to support this kid, excluding is not the answer here.....punishing the kid if mum dsnt comply? Shameful....thanks for update OP... | |||
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"These are the words I have just heard a mother scream at her 4 year old child, while picking my grandson up from little legs nursery. Why on earth do people do this or think it's acceptable " She ought to be horse whipped. That language is not acceptable at any time to a child or anyone for that matter. Wonder what shes like at home with the child. A very scarey thought. | |||
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"No point reporting to the nursery, what can they do about it. Should just quietly and calmly say to the parent, "You shouldn't talk to your child like that when I am around, it would a shame to be orphaned at such a young age!" " The parent will probably take it out on the child when they get home if someone said that to them. | |||
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"No point reporting to the nursery, what can they do about it. Should just quietly and calmly say to the parent, "You shouldn't talk to your child like that when I am around, it would a shame to be orphaned at such a young age!" " They have a duty of care that's what......their payed to look after those kids not just chuck them in a room full of toys, nursery is the begining of a child's school life not just a babysitter... | |||
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"Just an Update on this. Took grandson to nursery earlier on and the head and deputy head were waiting for the mother to pull into the car park. She was told she isn't allowed on school grounds anymore and must arrange for her child to be dropped off by another member of the family. If she does not comply with their rules the child will then be excluded from the nursery group and letters will be sent out to surrounding nurseries. They are also going to monitor the child further Shame they have not used this to support this kid, excluding is not the answer here.....punishing the kid if mum dsnt comply? Shameful....thanks for update OP..." Said exactly the same further up the thread and the nursery saying it will send out letters to other nurseries in the area, wow that's making sure that child is socially excluded from everywhere. Like I said the nursery should be reported, sounds very unprofessional, is it even licensed ? | |||
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"These are the words I have just heard a mother scream at her 4 year old child, while picking my grandson up from little legs nursery. Why on earth do people do this or think it's acceptable ANIMAL. " Worse than animals. We're supposed to have coherent thought? And these are the people who,as someone else said, will wonder why they have such awful children in years to come? And us as society are expected to pick up the pieces? | |||
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"These are the words I have just heard a mother scream at her 4 year old child, while picking my grandson up from little legs nursery. Why on earth do people do this or think it's acceptable " What gives anyone right to judge without knowing all the story of that mother and child. Would be nice to find out before judging. Just the fought. Don't think it's ok to say that to 4yo but would not go as far as call her animal, if something call her human and stop offending animals | |||
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"These are the words I have just heard a mother scream at her 4 year old child, while picking my grandson up from little legs nursery. Why on earth do people do this or think it's acceptable What gives anyone right to judge without knowing all the story of that mother and child. Would be nice to find out before judging. Just the fought. Don't think it's ok to say that to 4yo but would not go as far as call her animal, if something call her human and stop offending animals " The story of that mother and child is irrelevant. Nobody should speak to a child like that. End of. | |||
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"These are the words I have just heard a mother scream at her 4 year old child, while picking my grandson up from little legs nursery. Why on earth do people do this or think it's acceptable What gives anyone right to judge without knowing all the story of that mother and child. Would be nice to find out before judging. Just the fought. Don't think it's ok to say that to 4yo but would not go as far as call her animal, if something call her human and stop offending animals The story of that mother and child is irrelevant. Nobody should speak to a child like that. End of. " Why not, in fact she could be best mother in the world, just because she uses words like that does not mean she's bad mother | |||
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"Just an Update on this. Took grandson to nursery earlier on and the head and deputy head were waiting for the mother to pull into the car park. She was told she isn't allowed on school grounds anymore and must arrange for her child to be dropped off by another member of the family. If she does not comply with their rules the child will then be excluded from the nursery group and letters will be sent out to surrounding nurseries. They are also going to monitor the child further " I can not believe this! - totally the wrong way to handle the situation. Stepping away from this now before I get into trouble. | |||
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"These are the words I have just heard a mother scream at her 4 year old child, while picking my grandson up from little legs nursery. Why on earth do people do this or think it's acceptable What gives anyone right to judge without knowing all the story of that mother and child. Would be nice to find out before judging. Just the fought. Don't think it's ok to say that to 4yo but would not go as far as call her animal, if something call her human and stop offending animals The story of that mother and child is irrelevant. Nobody should speak to a child like that. End of. Why not, in fact she could be best mother in the world, just because she uses words like that does not mean she's bad mother " Then we have different opinions on how to treat a child. Fair enough | |||
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"Just an Update on this. Took grandson to nursery earlier on and the head and deputy head were waiting for the mother to pull into the car park. She was told she isn't allowed on school grounds anymore and must arrange for her child to be dropped off by another member of the family. If she does not comply with their rules the child will then be excluded from the nursery group and letters will be sent out to surrounding nurseries. They are also going to monitor the child further I can not believe this! - totally the wrong way to handle the situation. Stepping away from this now before I get into trouble. " Shame on the nursery | |||
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"These are the words I have just heard a mother scream at her 4 year old child, while picking my grandson up from little legs nursery. Why on earth do people do this or think it's acceptable What gives anyone right to judge without knowing all the story of that mother and child. Would be nice to find out before judging. Just the fought. Don't think it's ok to say that to 4yo but would not go as far as call her animal, if something call her human and stop offending animals The story of that mother and child is irrelevant. Nobody should speak to a child like that. End of. Why not, in fact she could be best mother in the world, just because she uses words like that does not mean she's bad mother " no matter how pissed off and wound up I've ever been by my kids I wouldn't, even in anger, say those things to my kids. Speaking to kids like that is bad parenting. No matter the circumstances. | |||
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"Just an Update on this. Took grandson to nursery earlier on and the head and deputy head were waiting for the mother to pull into the car park. She was told she isn't allowed on school grounds anymore and must arrange for her child to be dropped off by another member of the family. If she does not comply with their rules the child will then be excluded from the nursery group and letters will be sent out to surrounding nurseries. They are also going to monitor the child further I can not believe this! - totally the wrong way to handle the situation. Stepping away from this now before I get into trouble. Shame on the nursery " Indeed | |||
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"These are the words I have just heard a mother scream at her 4 year old child, while picking my grandson up from little legs nursery. Why on earth do people do this or think it's acceptable What gives anyone right to judge without knowing all the story of that mother and child. Would be nice to find out before judging. Just the fought. Don't think it's ok to say that to 4yo but would not go as far as call her animal, if something call her human and stop offending animals The story of that mother and child is irrelevant. Nobody should speak to a child like that. End of. Why not, in fact she could be best mother in the world, just because she uses words like that does not mean she's bad mother Then we have different opinions on how to treat a child. Fair enough " Story is relevant What if mother was forcefully taken and family forced her to have that baby and raise it, and only thing she see in kid it's a face of rapist, would you still judge her so lightly | |||
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"These are the words I have just heard a mother scream at her 4 year old child, while picking my grandson up from little legs nursery. Why on earth do people do this or think it's acceptable What gives anyone right to judge without knowing all the story of that mother and child. Would be nice to find out before judging. Just the fought. Don't think it's ok to say that to 4yo but would not go as far as call her animal, if something call her human and stop offending animals The story of that mother and child is irrelevant. Nobody should speak to a child like that. End of. Why not, in fact she could be best mother in the world, just because she uses words like that does not mean she's bad mother Then we have different opinions on how to treat a child. Fair enough Story is relevant What if mother was forcefully taken and family forced her to have that baby and raise it, and only thing she see in kid it's a face of rapist, would you still judge her so lightly " I’d judge her exactly the same. You do not speak to a child like that. | |||
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"Why not, in fact she could be best mother in the world, just because she uses words like that does not mean she's bad mother " Using that language to anyone is totally unacceptable but a mother to her child.....?? On the information provided she does not look too good to me. | |||
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"These are the words I have just heard a mother scream at her 4 year old child, while picking my grandson up from little legs nursery. Why on earth do people do this or think it's acceptable What gives anyone right to judge without knowing all the story of that mother and child. Would be nice to find out before judging. Just the fought. Don't think it's ok to say that to 4yo but would not go as far as call her animal, if something call her human and stop offending animals The story of that mother and child is irrelevant. Nobody should speak to a child like that. End of. Why not, in fact she could be best mother in the world, just because she uses words like that does not mean she's bad mother Then we have different opinions on how to treat a child. Fair enough Story is relevant What if mother was forcefully taken and family forced her to have that baby and raise it, and only thing she see in kid it's a face of rapist, would you still judge her so lightly " What's it to you it's all ifs and buts you got your opinion others there's maybe you should have less of an opinion of other people views | |||
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"These are the words I have just heard a mother scream at her 4 year old child, while picking my grandson up from little legs nursery. Why on earth do people do this or think it's acceptable What gives anyone right to judge without knowing all the story of that mother and child. Would be nice to find out before judging. Just the fought. Don't think it's ok to say that to 4yo but would not go as far as call her animal, if something call her human and stop offending animals The story of that mother and child is irrelevant. Nobody should speak to a child like that. End of. Why not, in fact she could be best mother in the world, just because she uses words like that does not mean she's bad mother Then we have different opinions on how to treat a child. Fair enough Story is relevant What if mother was forcefully taken and family forced her to have that baby and raise it, and only thing she see in kid it's a face of rapist, would you still judge her so lightly I’d judge her exactly the same. You do not speak to a child like that. " Well we have different opinion, how to judge people | |||
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"These are the words I have just heard a mother scream at her 4 year old child, while picking my grandson up from little legs nursery. Why on earth do people do this or think it's acceptable What gives anyone right to judge without knowing all the story of that mother and child. Would be nice to find out before judging. Just the fought. Don't think it's ok to say that to 4yo but would not go as far as call her animal, if something call her human and stop offending animals The story of that mother and child is irrelevant. Nobody should speak to a child like that. End of. Why not, in fact she could be best mother in the world, just because she uses words like that does not mean she's bad mother Then we have different opinions on how to treat a child. Fair enough Story is relevant What if mother was forcefully taken and family forced her to have that baby and raise it, and only thing she see in kid it's a face of rapist, would you still judge her so lightly I’d judge her exactly the same. You do not speak to a child like that. Well we have different opinion, how to judge people " We most certainly do. | |||
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"These are the words I have just heard a mother scream at her 4 year old child, while picking my grandson up from little legs nursery. Why on earth do people do this or think it's acceptable What gives anyone right to judge without knowing all the story of that mother and child. Would be nice to find out before judging. Just the fought. Don't think it's ok to say that to 4yo but would not go as far as call her animal, if something call her human and stop offending animals The story of that mother and child is irrelevant. Nobody should speak to a child like that. End of. Why not, in fact she could be best mother in the world, just because she uses words like that does not mean she's bad mother Then we have different opinions on how to treat a child. Fair enough Story is relevant What if mother was forcefully taken and family forced her to have that baby and raise it, and only thing she see in kid it's a face of rapist, would you still judge her so lightly I’d judge her exactly the same. You do not speak to a child like that. Well we have different opinion, how to judge people We most certainly do. " Can't agree with everyone about everything | |||
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"Many schools now provide additional help for children in the form of teaching assistants to deal with children with SEN and many of them if not all are from dysfunctional families whose parents also get guidance, each child that comes under SEN can be allocated £6,000 pa or at least the school can be allocated that and many schools are finding this an absolute bonus, not really much they can do about the ever increasing population of ignorant people and parents though. That’s a totally different thing! SEN is nothing to do with abusive parents. SEN exists because of them, parents going through unpleasant divorces, substance abuse parents, lower income parents, abusive parents, depression, uneducated and ignorant parents it all takes it toll on the innocent children. I think you need to do a little reading as to what SEN actually is. It has absolutely nothing to do with the parents. Google autism, ADHD, cerebral palsy and then come back when you're ready to take your comments back. Tea" oh it does I'm afraid I have a close friend who deals with it their are many problems associated with it as I've said but ignorance of parents are amongst the main problems and the anguish thrust upon children during messy divorces, my friend councils the parents as well as the children as part of her job, in the Ops example sure it could have been a one off bad day for that parent but how often do you go out on the street and see similar outrageous behaviour from parents to their children I was in Exeter last week the dad looked on while the mother held the child by his head on the ground and swore profusely at the boy saying he was grounded for a year etc you could see he the dad was embarrassed many people watching her lose it, the pub example I gave earlier it's a common occurrence these days, bad language is common, young kids talk to each other using profanity, you must see it to, I rarely swear and I never lose it, my kids are well rounded and well behaved and educated, I never hit my kids and yet my example from my father was a good hiding, he hated swearing mind and it was less common when I was young. | |||
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"Many schools now provide additional help for children in the form of teaching assistants to deal with children with SEN and many of them if not all are from dysfunctional families whose parents also get guidance, each child that comes under SEN can be allocated £6,000 pa or at least the school can be allocated that and many schools are finding this an absolute bonus, not really much they can do about the ever increasing population of ignorant people and parents though. That’s a totally different thing! SEN is nothing to do with abusive parents. SEN exists because of them, parents going through unpleasant divorces, substance abuse parents, lower income parents, abusive parents, depression, uneducated and ignorant parents it all takes it toll on the innocent children. I think you need to do a little reading as to what SEN actually is. It has absolutely nothing to do with the parents. Google autism, ADHD, cerebral palsy and then come back when you're ready to take your comments back. Teaoh it does I'm afraid I have a close friend who deals with it their are many problems associated with it as I've said but ignorance of parents are amongst the main problems and the anguish thrust upon children during messy divorces, my friend councils the parents as well as the children as part of her job, in the Ops example sure it could have been a one off bad day for that parent but how often do you go out on the street and see similar outrageous behaviour from parents to their children I was in Exeter last week the dad looked on while the mother held the child by his head on the ground and swore profusely at the boy saying he was grounded for a year etc you could see he the dad was embarrassed many people watching her lose it, the pub example I gave earlier it's a common occurrence these days, bad language is common, young kids talk to each other using profanity, you must see it to, I rarely swear and I never lose it, my kids are well rounded and well behaved and educated, I never hit my kids and yet my example from my father was a good hiding, he hated swearing mind and it was less common when I was young. " Again. Nothing to do with SEN. Your ignorance is embarrassing. | |||
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"Many schools now provide additional help for children in the form of teaching assistants to deal with children with SEN and many of them if not all are from dysfunctional families whose parents also get guidance, each child that comes under SEN can be allocated £6,000 pa or at least the school can be allocated that and many schools are finding this an absolute bonus, not really much they can do about the ever increasing population of ignorant people and parents though. That’s a totally different thing! SEN is nothing to do with abusive parents. SEN exists because of them, parents going through unpleasant divorces, substance abuse parents, lower income parents, abusive parents, depression, uneducated and ignorant parents it all takes it toll on the innocent children. I think you need to do a little reading as to what SEN actually is. It has absolutely nothing to do with the parents. Google autism, ADHD, cerebral palsy and then come back when you're ready to take your comments back. Teaoh it does I'm afraid I have a close friend who deals with it their are many problems associated with it as I've said but ignorance of parents are amongst the main problems and the anguish thrust upon children during messy divorces, my friend councils the parents as well as the children as part of her job, in the Ops example sure it could have been a one off bad day for that parent but how often do you go out on the street and see similar outrageous behaviour from parents to their children I was in Exeter last week the dad looked on while the mother held the child by his head on the ground and swore profusely at the boy saying he was grounded for a year etc you could see he the dad was embarrassed many people watching her lose it, the pub example I gave earlier it's a common occurrence these days, bad language is common, young kids talk to each other using profanity, you must see it to, I rarely swear and I never lose it, my kids are well rounded and well behaved and educated, I never hit my kids and yet my example from my father was a good hiding, he hated swearing mind and it was less common when I was young. Again. Nothing to do with SEN. Your ignorance is embarrassing. " lol | |||
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"Many schools now provide additional help for children in the form of teaching assistants to deal with children with SEN and many of them if not all are from dysfunctional families whose parents also get guidance, each child that comes under SEN can be allocated £6,000 pa or at least the school can be allocated that and many schools are finding this an absolute bonus, not really much they can do about the ever increasing population of ignorant people and parents though. That’s a totally different thing! SEN is nothing to do with abusive parents. SEN exists because of them, parents going through unpleasant divorces, substance abuse parents, lower income parents, abusive parents, depression, uneducated and ignorant parents it all takes it toll on the innocent children. I think you need to do a little reading as to what SEN actually is. It has absolutely nothing to do with the parents. Google autism, ADHD, cerebral palsy and then come back when you're ready to take your comments back. Teaoh it does I'm afraid I have a close friend who deals with it their are many problems associated with it as I've said but ignorance of parents are amongst the main problems and the anguish thrust upon children during messy divorces, my friend councils the parents as well as the children as part of her job, in the Ops example sure it could have been a one off bad day for that parent but how often do you go out on the street and see similar outrageous behaviour from parents to their children I was in Exeter last week the dad looked on while the mother held the child by his head on the ground and swore profusely at the boy saying he was grounded for a year etc you could see he the dad was embarrassed many people watching her lose it, the pub example I gave earlier it's a common occurrence these days, bad language is common, young kids talk to each other using profanity, you must see it to, I rarely swear and I never lose it, my kids are well rounded and well behaved and educated, I never hit my kids and yet my example from my father was a good hiding, he hated swearing mind and it was less common when I was young. Again. Nothing to do with SEN. Your ignorance is embarrassing. " I bow to your superior knowledge | |||
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"Many schools now provide additional help for children in the form of teaching assistants to deal with children with SEN and many of them if not all are from dysfunctional families whose parents also get guidance, each child that comes under SEN can be allocated £6,000 pa or at least the school can be allocated that and many schools are finding this an absolute bonus, not really much they can do about the ever increasing population of ignorant people and parents though. That’s a totally different thing! SEN is nothing to do with abusive parents. SEN exists because of them, parents going through unpleasant divorces, substance abuse parents, lower income parents, abusive parents, depression, uneducated and ignorant parents it all takes it toll on the innocent children. I think you need to do a little reading as to what SEN actually is. It has absolutely nothing to do with the parents. Google autism, ADHD, cerebral palsy and then come back when you're ready to take your comments back. Teaoh it does I'm afraid I have a close friend who deals with it their are many problems associated with it as I've said but ignorance of parents are amongst the main problems and the anguish thrust upon children during messy divorces, my friend councils the parents as well as the children as part of her job, in the Ops example sure it could have been a one off bad day for that parent but how often do you go out on the street and see similar outrageous behaviour from parents to their children I was in Exeter last week the dad looked on while the mother held the child by his head on the ground and swore profusely at the boy saying he was grounded for a year etc you could see he the dad was embarrassed many people watching her lose it, the pub example I gave earlier it's a common occurrence these days, bad language is common, young kids talk to each other using profanity, you must see it to, I rarely swear and I never lose it, my kids are well rounded and well behaved and educated, I never hit my kids and yet my example from my father was a good hiding, he hated swearing mind and it was less common when I was young. Again. Nothing to do with SEN. Your ignorance is embarrassing. I bow to your superior knowledge " Good because believe me, in this particular subject my knowledge is almost certainly superior to yours judging by your ridiculous comments. | |||
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"Many schools now provide additional help for children in the form of teaching assistants to deal with children with SEN and many of them if not all are from dysfunctional families whose parents also get guidance, each child that comes under SEN can be allocated £6,000 pa or at least the school can be allocated that and many schools are finding this an absolute bonus, not really much they can do about the ever increasing population of ignorant people and parents though. That’s a totally different thing! SEN is nothing to do with abusive parents. SEN exists because of them, parents going through unpleasant divorces, substance abuse parents, lower income parents, abusive parents, depression, uneducated and ignorant parents it all takes it toll on the innocent children. I think you need to do a little reading as to what SEN actually is. It has absolutely nothing to do with the parents. Google autism, ADHD, cerebral palsy and then come back when you're ready to take your comments back. Teaoh it does I'm afraid I have a close friend who deals with it their are many problems associated with it as I've said but ignorance of parents are amongst the main problems and the anguish thrust upon children during messy divorces, my friend councils the parents as well as the children as part of her job, in the Ops example sure it could have been a one off bad day for that parent but how often do you go out on the street and see similar outrageous behaviour from parents to their children I was in Exeter last week the dad looked on while the mother held the child by his head on the ground and swore profusely at the boy saying he was grounded for a year etc you could see he the dad was embarrassed many people watching her lose it, the pub example I gave earlier it's a common occurrence these days, bad language is common, young kids talk to each other using profanity, you must see it to, I rarely swear and I never lose it, my kids are well rounded and well behaved and educated, I never hit my kids and yet my example from my father was a good hiding, he hated swearing mind and it was less common when I was young. Again. Nothing to do with SEN. Your ignorance is embarrassing. I bow to your superior knowledge Good because believe me, in this particular subject my knowledge is almost certainly superior to yours judging by your ridiculous comments. " | |||
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"Many schools now provide additional help for children in the form of teaching assistants to deal with children with SEN and many of them if not all are from dysfunctional families whose parents also get guidance, each child that comes under SEN can be allocated £6,000 pa or at least the school can be allocated that and many schools are finding this an absolute bonus, not really much they can do about the ever increasing population of ignorant people and parents though. That’s a totally different thing! SEN is nothing to do with abusive parents. SEN exists because of them, parents going through unpleasant divorces, substance abuse parents, lower income parents, abusive parents, depression, uneducated and ignorant parents it all takes it toll on the innocent children. I think you need to do a little reading as to what SEN actually is. It has absolutely nothing to do with the parents. Google autism, ADHD, cerebral palsy and then come back when you're ready to take your comments back. Teaoh it does I'm afraid I have a close friend who deals with it their are many problems associated with it as I've said but ignorance of parents are amongst the main problems and the anguish thrust upon children during messy divorces, my friend councils the parents as well as the children as part of her job, in the Ops example sure it could have been a one off bad day for that parent but how often do you go out on the street and see similar outrageous behaviour from parents to their children I was in Exeter last week the dad looked on while the mother held the child by his head on the ground and swore profusely at the boy saying he was grounded for a year etc you could see he the dad was embarrassed many people watching her lose it, the pub example I gave earlier it's a common occurrence these days, bad language is common, young kids talk to each other using profanity, you must see it to, I rarely swear and I never lose it, my kids are well rounded and well behaved and educated, I never hit my kids and yet my example from my father was a good hiding, he hated swearing mind and it was less common when I was young. " You don’t appear to understand SEN unfortunately. | |||
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"These are the words I have just heard a mother scream at her 4 year old child, while picking my grandson up from little legs nursery. Why on earth do people do this or think it's acceptable " "These are the words I have just heard a mother scream at her 4 year old child, while picking my grandson up from little legs nursery. Why on earth do people do this or think it's acceptable " Where I used to live that would have been the 4yo talking to his mum | |||
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"These are the words I have just heard a mother scream at her 4 year old child, while picking my grandson up from little legs nursery. Why on earth do people do this or think it's acceptable " Being an old fart(very old!) This is symptomatic of the falling standards in every day life in this country. Never mind all the moaners about immigrants and all the other rubbish,I love progress and think we're lucky to live in the country that we do. But where has our pride gone? Standards are slipping everywhere and we're rearranging deck chairs... Get a grip Britain! We can be great again! I've very strong views on why we're getting worse but that's not for here? Let's hope we don't need the luftwaffe before we all wake up and pull our collective fingers out? | |||
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"These are the words I have just heard a mother scream at her 4 year old child, while picking my grandson up from little legs nursery. Why on earth do people do this or think it's acceptable " I was working in a house a few years ago one summers day doing some repairs to the kitchen. The lady of the house had a mouth like a sewer. Anyways Kid about 4/5 maybe play Out front of the house with friends, Dunno what happened but he shouted loudly "Fuck off you cunt" At one of the others From the front room I heard a shout "YOU WHAT? YOU FUCKING WHAT" Mrs comes thundering thro run's into front garden and delivers a barrage of abuse at nipper along the lines of " How many fucking times have I fucking told you about swearing you little cunt" And sends him off to his room. I rolled my eyes and had a rye smile at the irony. Kid doesn't stand a chance and will grow up to be a product of his environment probably! | |||
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"Many schools now provide additional help for children in the form of teaching assistants to deal with children with SEN and many of them if not all are from dysfunctional families whose parents also get guidance, each child that comes under SEN can be allocated £6,000 pa or at least the school can be allocated that and many schools are finding this an absolute bonus, not really much they can do about the ever increasing population of ignorant people and parents though. That’s a totally different thing! SEN is nothing to do with abusive parents. SEN exists because of them, parents going through unpleasant divorces, substance abuse parents, lower income parents, abusive parents, depression, uneducated and ignorant parents it all takes it toll on the innocent children. " Good heavens ! You need educating ! | |||
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"Just an Update on this. Took grandson to nursery earlier on and the head and deputy head were waiting for the mother to pull into the car park. She was told she isn't allowed on school grounds anymore and must arrange for her child to be dropped off by another member of the family. If she does not comply with their rules the child will then be excluded from the nursery group and letters will be sent out to surrounding nurseries. They are also going to monitor the child further Shame they have not used this to support this kid, excluding is not the answer here.....punishing the kid if mum dsnt comply? Shameful....thanks for update OP..." | |||
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"Do not think "horse whipping" will help much. There are folk around who use that sort of language habitually and think it is normal... It is matter of trying to show them there is another way to communicate." Sounds perfectly good to me. Theres no way you communicate with someone like that. If shes been in that environment thats how she will talk. My fear is for the child. Shes a lost cause | |||
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"Sounds perfectly good to me. Theres no way you communicate with someone like that. If shes been in that environment thats how she will talk. My fear is for the child. Shes a lost cause" Not really, violence begets violence, bad language begets bad language. Could be a lost cause as you say but there are times when education and showing someone there is another path does work | |||
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"These are the words I have just heard a mother scream at her 4 year old child, while picking my grandson up from little legs nursery. Why on earth do people do this or think it's acceptable What gives anyone right to judge without knowing all the story of that mother and child. Would be nice to find out before judging. Just the fought. Don't think it's ok to say that to 4yo but would not go as far as call her animal, if something call her human and stop offending animals The story of that mother and child is irrelevant. Nobody should speak to a child like that. End of. Why not, in fact she could be best mother in the world, just because she uses words like that does not mean she's bad mother " You’re shitting me with that thought process! | |||
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"These are the words I have just heard a mother scream at her 4 year old child, while picking my grandson up from little legs nursery. Why on earth do people do this or think it's acceptable What gives anyone right to judge without knowing all the story of that mother and child. Would be nice to find out before judging. Just the fought. Don't think it's ok to say that to 4yo but would not go as far as call her animal, if something call her human and stop offending animals The story of that mother and child is irrelevant. Nobody should speak to a child like that. End of. Why not, in fact she could be best mother in the world, just because she uses words like that does not mean she's bad mother You’re shitting me with that thought process! " Why, it's just words | |||
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"Sounds perfectly good to me. Theres no way you communicate with someone like that. If shes been in that environment thats how she will talk. My fear is for the child. Shes a lost cause Not really, violence begets violence, bad language begets bad language. Could be a lost cause as you say but there are times when education and showing someone there is another path does work" Well thats my opinion and i stick with it. Sometimes talking isnt enough and i guess if you tried to talk to her you probably get a smack then tell me violence is bad. Of course it is but that child will know no better as he gets older and that is sad | |||
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"I get losing your patience, but Jesus. " Yeah agreed. People have bad days but if it's that bad and you lash out that much at a child it's concerning. As someone who isn't a parent I have a lot of sympathy as it seems to be the toughest job in the world but you can't react like that in public without worrying others about the child's safety. | |||
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"That's all bollocks, my parents spoke to me like that and I ain't whining, turn up OK. Never spoke to my kids like that having memory of my parents. And no no social services was ever involved and no strange people as well. Wrong and good it's just words, if kid is not resilient enough, he will lose it if he is he will thrive on that. And definetaly judgment from afar does not help " Losing control starts with words. Coercive control starts with words. Abuse, domestic / child / other starts with words. It’s way more than “it’s just words”. | |||
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"That's all bollocks, my parents spoke to me like that and I ain't whining, turn up OK. Never spoke to my kids like that having memory of my parents. And no no social services was ever involved and no strange people as well. Wrong and good it's just words, if kid is not resilient enough, he will lose it if he is he will thrive on that. And definetaly judgment from afar does not help " Why didn't you speak to your kids like that? If it helps them thrive as you say. | |||
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"Just an Update on this. Took grandson to nursery earlier on and the head and deputy head were waiting for the mother to pull into the car park. She was told she isn't allowed on school grounds anymore and must arrange for her child to be dropped off by another member of the family. If she does not comply with their rules the child will then be excluded from the nursery group and letters will be sent out to surrounding nurseries. They are also going to monitor the child further Shame they have not used this to support this kid, excluding is not the answer here.....punishing the kid if mum dsnt comply? Shameful....thanks for update OP..." Exactly, and from a safeguarding perspective you wouldn't want to exclude the child because then they are lost from the radar. Victoria Climbie, Daniel Pelka all ignored and failed by the system. | |||
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"Just an Update on this. Took grandson to nursery earlier on and the head and deputy head were waiting for the mother to pull into the car park. She was told she isn't allowed on school grounds anymore and must arrange for her child to be dropped off by another member of the family. If she does not comply with their rules the child will then be excluded from the nursery group and letters will be sent out to surrounding nurseries. They are also going to monitor the child further " That’s quite surprising for parents to find out all this information, they shouldn’t let other people know about private information like that, better practice is to speak to more her privately and defiantly not let all that information be passed onto the other parents even ones to hat witnesses the behaviour of this woman I’m guessing this is a private nursery | |||
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"Just an Update on this. Took grandson to nursery earlier on and the head and deputy head were waiting for the mother to pull into the car park. She was told she isn't allowed on school grounds anymore and must arrange for her child to be dropped off by another member of the family. If she does not comply with their rules the child will then be excluded from the nursery group and letters will be sent out to surrounding nurseries. They are also going to monitor the child further Shame they have not used this to support this kid, excluding is not the answer here.....punishing the kid if mum dsnt comply? Shameful....thanks for update OP... Exactly, and from a safeguarding perspective you wouldn't want to exclude the child because then they are lost from the radar. Victoria Climbie, Daniel Pelka all ignored and failed by the system. " exactly this. | |||
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"Just an Update on this. Took grandson to nursery earlier on and the head and deputy head were waiting for the mother to pull into the car park. She was told she isn't allowed on school grounds anymore and must arrange for her child to be dropped off by another member of the family. If she does not comply with their rules the child will then be excluded from the nursery group and letters will be sent out to surrounding nurseries. They are also going to monitor the child further That’s quite surprising for parents to find out all this information, they shouldn’t let other people know about private information like that, better practice is to speak to more her privately and defiantly not let all that information be passed onto the other parents even ones to hat witnesses the behaviour of this woman I’m guessing this is a private nursery " Wouldn't matter if it was private or LEA based, the rules enforced by Ofsted, as written in the National Minimum Standards need to be complied with no matter what Worrying that they are informing other Nurseries, they are essentially trying to block intervention for the child. | |||
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"Just an Update on this. Took grandson to nursery earlier on and the head and deputy head were waiting for the mother to pull into the car park. She was told she isn't allowed on school grounds anymore and must arrange for her child to be dropped off by another member of the family. If she does not comply with their rules the child will then be excluded from the nursery group and letters will be sent out to surrounding nurseries. They are also going to monitor the child further That’s quite surprising for parents to find out all this information, they shouldn’t let other people know about private information like that, better practice is to speak to more her privately and defiantly not let all that information be passed onto the other parents even ones to hat witnesses the behaviour of this woman I’m guessing this is a private nursery Wouldn't matter if it was private or LEA based, the rules enforced by Ofsted, as written in the National Minimum Standards need to be complied with no matter what Worrying that they are informing other Nurseries, they are essentially trying to block intervention for the child." Sorry if I wasn’t clear I was meaning other parents finding out this about the girl surely that should have been said privately in an office or the child’s home not in a car park | |||
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"No point reporting to the nursery, what can they do about it. Should just quietly and calmly say to the parent, "You shouldn't talk to your child like that when I am around, it would a shame to be orphaned at such a young age!" " Blimey | |||
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"I think the Nursery dealt with it totally unprofessional..I though there are procedures to go through rather than discuss the situation with the mother in the playground, then tell other mothers what they have decided to do / allow other mothers to hear the conversation. Then the poor child who could end up excluded for no fault of her own. " There are, and the nursery should be reported for not following them. | |||
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