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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

If ive heard this once this past couple of days ive heard it hundreds of times.

How do the men come to this conclusion ? If they are finding it frustrating don't they imagine women do too ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Couples do as well, inundated with messages asking to "meet now?" Or "can I shag your wife" then abuse when you say you're busy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Too many men like to play the downtrodden victim.

Sooner whinge than do something about it.

It's everyone else's fault but theres.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

These men are just not seeing how one things are easier for women but some things are harder, the hassle women get easily outweighs the potential meets they can arrange!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Cos some guys are nit wits(myself included on occasion)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yeah... we have to kiss a lot of frogs before we find what we're looking for too

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By *uke olovingmanMan
over a year ago

Gravesend

Im not sure I could cope with all the hopeful..and hopeless messages..and abuse

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By *icegentglosMan
over a year ago

Gloucester

No I don’t think they do.

Imagine having hundreds of messages each day, you’d soon get bored of it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Here we go. The “We have ir harder” olympics is off.

If it’s hard work on here, why stay?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Reminds me of the one who was reported in the papers of having gender reassignment surgery (sex change) on the NHS to be a girl, then expected the NHS to reverse it because it was too much of a nuisance putting make up on and doing her hair.

I'm sure the papers elaborated or exaggerated it to a degree but was a classic case of the grass being greener.

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By *parxyndpetalCouple
over a year ago

Durham

I think they mean in the sense women are the ones in charge and can chose who they want, which we do haha

Buttttttttttt on the flip side us females have to deal with the daily shit messages and abuse if we aren't interested, or being spoken to like shit just because we're on a swingers site

I do feel sorry for the genuine single men as they do kinda have a rough ride

P

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By *eclanHMan
over a year ago

Liphook

It’s a trade-off.

Generally speaking. Women get a lot of (mostly terrible) messages, and they get a lot of abuse. Men get far fewer messages.

So the whingeing male concludes thusly: at least women have options (and they didn’t even have to put in any effort!), while I have to work my poor arse off for weeks to get anything other than a rejection.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It shouldn’t be hard work for anyone. It should be fun and easy. It’s only sex after all

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I wouldn't say we have it easy. I know I for one take a lot of abuse on here.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It’s a trade-off.

Generally speaking. Women get a lot of (mostly terrible) messages, and they get a lot of abuse. Men get far fewer messages.

So the whingeing male concludes thusly: at least women have options (and they didn’t even have to put in any effort!), while I have to work my poor arse off for weeks to get anything other than a rejection.

"

Mostly terrible messages? Seriously it's nowhere near that bad!!

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By *innie The MinxWoman
over a year ago

Under the Duvet

I love fab, works for me.

If it wasn't fun I wouldn't be here

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It’s a trade-off.

Generally speaking. Women get a lot of (mostly terrible) messages, and they get a lot of abuse. Men get far fewer messages.

So the whingeing male concludes thusly: at least women have options (and they didn’t even have to put in any effort!), while I have to work my poor arse off for weeks to get anything other than a rejection.

Mostly terrible messages? Seriously it's nowhere near that bad!! "

It isn’t?? I’d say the majority are pretty terrible to be fair. Unless I’m just a weirdo magnet

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By *eclanHMan
over a year ago

Liphook


"It’s a trade-off.

Generally speaking. Women get a lot of (mostly terrible) messages, and they get a lot of abuse. Men get far fewer messages.

So the whingeing male concludes thusly: at least women have options (and they didn’t even have to put in any effort!), while I have to work my poor arse off for weeks to get anything other than a rejection.

Mostly terrible messages? Seriously it's nowhere near that bad!! "

I get differing views from women regarding this. I guess some are lucky, some not?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It’s a trade-off.

Generally speaking. Women get a lot of (mostly terrible) messages, and they get a lot of abuse. Men get far fewer messages.

So the whingeing male concludes thusly: at least women have options (and they didn’t even have to put in any effort!), while I have to work my poor arse off for weeks to get anything other than a rejection.

Mostly terrible messages? Seriously it's nowhere near that bad!! "

Should have seen a few I got yesterday

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By *eclanHMan
over a year ago

Liphook


"It’s a trade-off.

Generally speaking. Women get a lot of (mostly terrible) messages, and they get a lot of abuse. Men get far fewer messages.

So the whingeing male concludes thusly: at least women have options (and they didn’t even have to put in any effort!), while I have to work my poor arse off for weeks to get anything other than a rejection.

Mostly terrible messages? Seriously it's nowhere near that bad!!

It isn’t?? I’d say the majority are pretty terrible to be fair. Unless I’m just a weirdo magnet "

You are a weirdo tho

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It’s a trade-off.

Generally speaking. Women get a lot of (mostly terrible) messages, and they get a lot of abuse. Men get far fewer messages.

So the whingeing male concludes thusly: at least women have options (and they didn’t even have to put in any effort!), while I have to work my poor arse off for weeks to get anything other than a rejection.

Mostly terrible messages? Seriously it's nowhere near that bad!!

It isn’t?? I’d say the majority are pretty terrible to be fair. Unless I’m just a weirdo magnet

You are a weirdo tho "

I prefer the term unique

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yeah... we have to kiss a lot of frogs before we find what we're looking for too "

As true as that is, single men have a lot of trouble kissing anyone.

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By *innie The MinxWoman
over a year ago

Under the Duvet


"It’s a trade-off.

Generally speaking. Women get a lot of (mostly terrible) messages, and they get a lot of abuse. Men get far fewer messages.

So the whingeing male concludes thusly: at least women have options (and they didn’t even have to put in any effort!), while I have to work my poor arse off for weeks to get anything other than a rejection.

Mostly terrible messages? Seriously it's nowhere near that bad!!

I get differing views from women regarding this. I guess some are lucky, some not?"

If its luck I've been lucky for the past two years.

I've had thousands of messages in that time, maybe 10 you could call dodgy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It’s a trade-off.

Generally speaking. Women get a lot of (mostly terrible) messages, and they get a lot of abuse. Men get far fewer messages.

So the whingeing male concludes thusly: at least women have options (and they didn’t even have to put in any effort!), while I have to work my poor arse off for weeks to get anything other than a rejection.

Mostly terrible messages? Seriously it's nowhere near that bad!!

It isn’t?? I’d say the majority are pretty terrible to be fair. Unless I’m just a weirdo magnet "

Tbf I hardly get any! You must have my share not sure I could stay on here if it was like that

Don't think it's you though!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'd say we do yes.

We get way more folk to choose from.

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By *eclanHMan
over a year ago

Liphook


"It’s a trade-off.

Generally speaking. Women get a lot of (mostly terrible) messages, and they get a lot of abuse. Men get far fewer messages.

So the whingeing male concludes thusly: at least women have options (and they didn’t even have to put in any effort!), while I have to work my poor arse off for weeks to get anything other than a rejection.

Mostly terrible messages? Seriously it's nowhere near that bad!!

It isn’t?? I’d say the majority are pretty terrible to be fair. Unless I’m just a weirdo magnet

You are a weirdo tho

I prefer the term unique "

If that makes you happy

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By *adeiteWoman
over a year ago

Staffordshire

If men got the same messages women get you wouldn't all be saying women have it easy.

We say no to people then get abused, called names ect all because we said no.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It’s a trade-off.

Generally speaking. Women get a lot of (mostly terrible) messages, and they get a lot of abuse. Men get far fewer messages.

So the whingeing male concludes thusly: at least women have options (and they didn’t even have to put in any effort!), while I have to work my poor arse off for weeks to get anything other than a rejection.

Mostly terrible messages? Seriously it's nowhere near that bad!!

It isn’t?? I’d say the majority are pretty terrible to be fair. Unless I’m just a weirdo magnet

Tbf I hardly get any! You must have my share not sure I could stay on here if it was like that

Don't think it's you though! "

That surprises me that you don’t! I don’t now as I’ve filters and blocked men but was a nightmare before x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yeah... we have to kiss a lot of frogs before we find what we're looking for too "

*croaks*

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yeah... we have to kiss a lot of frogs before we find what we're looking for too

*croaks* "

funeral's next Tuesday

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By *uzukiNo1Woman
over a year ago

Rhyl

It's amazingly easy........(waits for backlash)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Generally anyone who says someone else has it easy is giving themselves an excuse/reason not to try harder/work harder to achieve what they want.

On here if a guy says “women have it easier” he invariably means they get more messages and have a greater opportunity to meet/have sex. It is a comment to a) make themselves feel better about not getting the same level of attention and b) therefore not try as hard because the odds are stacked against them.

Or at least that is my opinion.

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By *idnightxBrownCouple
over a year ago

Birmingham

I'd say there's some truth to it, most women just sit and wait because they don't have to make an effort.

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By *retty GoodMan
over a year ago

Cardiff Bay

Not complaining because it is what it is.

But of course women have it easier than men on here, don’t think that’s even debatable

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's amazingly easy........(waits for backlash) "

How about a tongue lash instead

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Not complaining because it is what it is.

But of course women have it easier than men on here, don’t think that’s even debatable "

It is debatable. As there’s a forum post about it

How do you think it’s easier? You have less women to chose from

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It’s a trade-off.

Generally speaking. Women get a lot of (mostly terrible) messages, and they get a lot of abuse. Men get far fewer messages.

So the whingeing male concludes thusly: at least women have options (and they didn’t even have to put in any effort!), while I have to work my poor arse off for weeks to get anything other than a rejection.

Mostly terrible messages? Seriously it's nowhere near that bad!!

It isn’t?? I’d say the majority are pretty terrible to be fair. Unless I’m just a weirdo magnet

Tbf I hardly get any! You must have my share not sure I could stay on here if it was like that

Don't think it's you though!

That surprises me that you don’t! I don’t now as I’ve filters and blocked men but was a nightmare before x"

I never have really! Literally the very odd few a year! I do hide my profile though unless I have the time and the inclination oh and generally at night or if I'm not on so if guys can't see me they can't message! Oh and all my filters are on ...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think men need to stop messaging altogether. You might see a pattern shift.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Not complaining because it is what it is.

But of course women have it easier than men on here, don’t think that’s even debatable

It is debatable. As there’s a forum post about it

How do you think it’s easier? You have less women to chose from "

This made me giggle!

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By *uzukiNo1Woman
over a year ago

Rhyl


"It's amazingly easy........(waits for backlash)

How about a tongue lash instead"

Wear your cap.....I'm in

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yeah... we have to kiss a lot of frogs before we find what we're looking for too

*croaks*

funeral's next Tuesday"

Do you know something I don’t?

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By *tingly ByronMan
over a year ago

In a town Fab forgot


"Here we go. The “We have it harder” olympics is off.

If it’s hard work on here, why stay?"

Have we found a winner yet?

The trouble with groundhog day.....

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By *uzukiNo1Woman
over a year ago

Rhyl


"Here we go. The “We have it harder” olympics is off.

If it’s hard work on here, why stay?

Have we found a winner yet?

The trouble with groundhog day....."

This person is not a docter! Just saying......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's amazingly easy........(waits for backlash)

How about a tongue lash instead

Wear your cap.....I'm in "

You hussy

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By *uzukiNo1Woman
over a year ago

Rhyl


"It's amazingly easy........(waits for backlash)

How about a tongue lash instead

Wear your cap.....I'm in

You hussy "

Pleased to meet you.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fab's a piece of piss if you do it the right way. If it wasn't, no guys would ever get a meet.

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By *idnightxBrownCouple
over a year ago

Birmingham


"Not complaining because it is what it is.

But of course women have it easier than men on here, don’t think that’s even debatable "

Women will never admit it life is easier for them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's amazingly easy........(waits for backlash)

How about a tongue lash instead

Wear your cap.....I'm in

You hussy

Pleased to meet you..... "

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By *r TriomanMan
over a year ago

Chippenham Malmesbury area


"Not complaining because it is what it is.

But of course women have it easier than men on here, don’t think that’s even debatable

It is debatable. As there’s a forum post about it

How do you think it’s easier? You have less women to chose from

This made me giggle! "

Easier is terms of getting messages from interested people and therefore a great possibility of a meet but, not easier in terms of abuse, being stood up, being messed about...

Fab is is a trial for most people one way or another; I get very few messages but non are abusive, I never get friends request but not do I get picture hunters and so on and so on.

I think, overall it a pretty leaven playing field in terms of user experience.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Not complaining because it is what it is.

But of course women have it easier than men on here, don’t think that’s even debatable

It is debatable. As there’s a forum post about it

How do you think it’s easier? You have less women to chose from

This made me giggle!

Easier is terms of getting messages from interested people and therefore a great possibility of a meet but, not easier in terms of abuse, being stood up, being messed about...

Fab is is a trial for most people one way or another; I get very few messages but non are abusive, I never get friends request but not do I get picture hunters and so on and so on.

I think, overall it a pretty leaven playing field in terms of user experience."

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By *layfullsamMan
over a year ago

Solihull


"If ive heard this once this past couple of days ive heard it hundreds of times.

How do the men come to this conclusion ? If they are finding it frustrating don't they imagine women do too ? "

Only easy from the point of view that you actually receive tens or hundreds of messages so have lots of options.

However I'm guessing it's not easier for you to sort through the messages to decide who is genuine and who is a nutcase sat masturbating wearing crusty y fronts and pretending to be a male model or sexy couple

If I was a woman I think i would block incoming messages through filters and do my own messaging.

Must be nice to have messages to read though

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As a bisexual woman I look at all profiles. There are as many “bad” profiles with no pictures, or profile text etc as there are men’s.

As it’s always been said it’s a numbers game, more men looking than woman.

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By *retty GoodMan
over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"Not complaining because it is what it is.

But of course women have it easier than men on here, don’t think that’s even debatable

It is debatable. As there’s a forum post about it

How do you think it’s easier? You have less women to chose from "

Lol feel silly now yes of course it’s debatable.

The way I see it personally and of course my opinion only, women have the power due to the ratio ( again not complaining ) so a woman can take her pick ( and rightly so ) and can afford to aim higher than in the vanilla world.

Men on the other hand in general may have to aim lower and some men will put there dick anywhere judging by verifications

As I say it is what it is but you can see that on people’s verifications.

Personally I would never lower standards and luckily I do ok but as much as it’s enjoyable it’s also a struggle.

None of this is aimed to offend it’s just my opinion and observations

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Not complaining because it is what it is.

But of course women have it easier than men on here, don’t think that’s even debatable

It is debatable. As there’s a forum post about it

How do you think it’s easier? You have less women to chose from

Lol feel silly now yes of course it’s debatable.

The way I see it personally and of course my opinion only, women have the power due to the ratio ( again not complaining ) so a woman can take her pick ( and rightly so ) and can afford to aim higher than in the vanilla world.

Men on the other hand in general may have to aim lower and some men will put there dick anywhere judging by verifications

As I say it is what it is but you can see that on people’s verifications.

Personally I would never lower standards and luckily I do ok but as much as it’s enjoyable it’s also a struggle.

None of this is aimed to offend it’s just my opinion and observations "

Afford to aim higher?! In what way?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Woman have it so easy on here from the sense of having to do fuck all and still receive a load of messages.

Use filters, bulk delete = happy days.

If I was a man I really don’t think I could be arsed to do all the chasing, I’d use it for the forums and along side other avenues for meeting. Certainly wouldn’t rely on it to meet anyone.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Not complaining because it is what it is.

But of course women have it easier than men on here, don’t think that’s even debatable

It is debatable. As there’s a forum post about it

How do you think it’s easier? You have less women to chose from

Lol feel silly now yes of course it’s debatable.

The way I see it personally and of course my opinion only, women have the power due to the ratio ( again not complaining ) so a woman can take her pick ( and rightly so ) and can afford to aim higher than in the vanilla world.

Men on the other hand in general may have to aim lower and some men will put there dick anywhere judging by verifications

As I say it is what it is but you can see that on people’s verifications.

Personally I would never lower standards and luckily I do ok but as much as it’s enjoyable it’s also a struggle.

None of this is aimed to offend it’s just my opinion and observations "

Not all men. Some men are very choosy too. They don’t all lower their standards just to get a shag. Most women probably avoid men like that which is probably why it’s more difficult for them and they’re always moaning.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Not complaining because it is what it is.

But of course women have it easier than men on here, don’t think that’s even debatable

It is debatable. As there’s a forum post about it

How do you think it’s easier? You have less women to chose from

Lol feel silly now yes of course it’s debatable.

The way I see it personally and of course my opinion only, women have the power due to the ratio ( again not complaining ) so a woman can take her pick ( and rightly so ) and can afford to aim higher than in the vanilla world.

Men on the other hand in general may have to aim lower and some men will put there dick anywhere judging by verifications

As I say it is what it is but you can see that on people’s verifications.

Personally I would never lower standards and luckily I do ok but as much as it’s enjoyable it’s also a struggle.

None of this is aimed to offend it’s just my opinion and observations "

Pretty much sums it up from my observations of subsequent forum posts.

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By *idnightxBrownCouple
over a year ago

Birmingham


"Woman have it so easy on here from the sense of having to do fuck all and still receive a load of messages.

Use filters, bulk delete = happy days.

If I was a man I really don’t think I could be arsed to do all the chasing, I’d use it for the forums and along side other avenues for meeting. Certainly wouldn’t rely on it to meet anyone."

I'd like to present you with the medal of valor

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Easy easy easy

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By *retty GoodMan
over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"Not complaining because it is what it is.

But of course women have it easier than men on here, don’t think that’s even debatable

It is debatable. As there’s a forum post about it

How do you think it’s easier? You have less women to chose from

Lol feel silly now yes of course it’s debatable.

The way I see it personally and of course my opinion only, women have the power due to the ratio ( again not complaining ) so a woman can take her pick ( and rightly so ) and can afford to aim higher than in the vanilla world.

Men on the other hand in general may have to aim lower and some men will put there dick anywhere judging by verifications

As I say it is what it is but you can see that on people’s verifications.

Personally I would never lower standards and luckily I do ok but as much as it’s enjoyable it’s also a struggle.

None of this is aimed to offend it’s just my opinion and observations

Afford to aim higher?! In what way?"

Only guessing of course but the ratio seems to be a hundred men for every one woman.

So ( and not including myself here ) men to have any interaction here have to lower expectations than in the vanilla world. So women women can aim higher.

Nothing wrong with that at all, but can see this on people’s verifications.

That’s why in MY opinion women have it easier than men

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Not complaining because it is what it is.

But of course women have it easier than men on here, don’t think that’s even debatable

It is debatable. As there’s a forum post about it

How do you think it’s easier? You have less women to chose from

Lol feel silly now yes of course it’s debatable.

The way I see it personally and of course my opinion only, women have the power due to the ratio ( again not complaining ) so a woman can take her pick ( and rightly so ) and can afford to aim higher than in the vanilla world.

Men on the other hand in general may have to aim lower and some men will put there dick anywhere judging by verifications

As I say it is what it is but you can see that on people’s verifications.

Personally I would never lower standards and luckily I do ok but as much as it’s enjoyable it’s also a struggle.

None of this is aimed to offend it’s just my opinion and observations

Afford to aim higher?! In what way?

Only guessing of course but the ratio seems to be a hundred men for every one woman.

So ( and not including myself here ) men to have any interaction here have to lower expectations than in the vanilla world. So women women can aim higher.

Nothing wrong with that at all, but can see this on people’s verifications.

That’s why in MY opinion women have it easier than men "

Now do you know that they’re ‘aiming higher’ and that isn’t the same standard that they fuck in real life?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

To be fair I think women do if you're thinking just about choice and the availability of sex ... but this comes at a price that cancels out the "easy" bit!

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By *retty GoodMan
over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"Not complaining because it is what it is.

But of course women have it easier than men on here, don’t think that’s even debatable

It is debatable. As there’s a forum post about it

How do you think it’s easier? You have less women to chose from

Lol feel silly now yes of course it’s debatable.

The way I see it personally and of course my opinion only, women have the power due to the ratio ( again not complaining ) so a woman can take her pick ( and rightly so ) and can afford to aim higher than in the vanilla world.

Men on the other hand in general may have to aim lower and some men will put there dick anywhere judging by verifications

As I say it is what it is but you can see that on people’s verifications.

Personally I would never lower standards and luckily I do ok but as much as it’s enjoyable it’s also a struggle.

None of this is aimed to offend it’s just my opinion and observations

Afford to aim higher?! In what way?

Only guessing of course but the ratio seems to be a hundred men for every one woman.

So ( and not including myself here ) men to have any interaction here have to lower expectations than in the vanilla world. So women women can aim higher.

Nothing wrong with that at all, but can see this on people’s verifications.

That’s why in MY opinion women have it easier than men

Now do you know that they’re ‘aiming higher’ and that isn’t the same standard that they fuck in real life? "

Again it’s not a dig or me complaining, but you can clearly see this on verifications that this is the case. This isn’t an issue it’s just the way of fab

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its as easy as you want it to be for anyone

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I wouldn't say we have it easy. I know I for one take a lot of abuse on here."

Op isn't saying we do...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Woman have it so easy on here from the sense of having to do fuck all and still receive a load of messages.

Use filters, bulk delete = happy days.

If I was a man I really don’t think I could be arsed to do all the chasing, I’d use it for the forums and along side other avenues for meeting. Certainly wouldn’t rely on it to meet anyone.

I'd like to present you with the medal of valor "

Thank you, I’ll pin it onto my trusty stead’s bridle

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Not complaining because it is what it is.

But of course women have it easier than men on here, don’t think that’s even debatable

It is debatable. As there’s a forum post about it

How do you think it’s easier? You have less women to chose from

Lol feel silly now yes of course it’s debatable.

The way I see it personally and of course my opinion only, women have the power due to the ratio ( again not complaining ) so a woman can take her pick ( and rightly so ) and can afford to aim higher than in the vanilla world.

Men on the other hand in general may have to aim lower and some men will put there dick anywhere judging by verifications

As I say it is what it is but you can see that on people’s verifications.

Personally I would never lower standards and luckily I do ok but as much as it’s enjoyable it’s also a struggle.

None of this is aimed to offend it’s just my opinion and observations

Afford to aim higher?! In what way?

Only guessing of course but the ratio seems to be a hundred men for every one woman.

So ( and not including myself here ) men to have any interaction here have to lower expectations than in the vanilla world. So women women can aim higher.

Nothing wrong with that at all, but can see this on people’s verifications.

That’s why in MY opinion women have it easier than men

Now do you know that they’re ‘aiming higher’ and that isn’t the same standard that they fuck in real life?

Again it’s not a dig or me complaining, but you can clearly see this on verifications that this is the case. This isn’t an issue it’s just the way of fab "

How can you tell from verifications what people are like? What their standards are? Even what their preferences are? Intrigued ... or are you blaming this solely on your interpretation of their looks?

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By *ohnjones3210Man
over a year ago

Chester

Well, imagine this; You're on a swinging site, looking for sex. There are two types of people, type A and type B, both are drawn to the opposite type.

But there are only 5 type B to 50 type A! Not only that, type B generally isn't as keen, even if she does find a good type A.

If both types are just looking for sex, type B has a huge advantage, it's going to be much easier for type B than type A. This is because of supply and demand. She knows her situation and she knows she's in demand. She can very easily get sex. Now look at type A, his outlook isn't so good. It's definitely easier for type B to get sex.

However, there's a really important, overlooked factor; A lot of men are wanting just sex. A lot of women are wanting more than just sex, there are a whole lot of other factors involved to a woman. It's not simply a case of getting sex.

So if you just want sex, sure, it's much easier for the woman, but if you want more than that; a good looking man who is intelligent, who is hot, who isn't desperate, blah blah blah, then it's going to be hard for the woman too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"To be fair I think women do if you're thinking just about choice and the availability of sex ... but this comes at a price that cancels out the "easy" bit! "

. I haven’t found it easy at all.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Well, imagine this; You're on a swinging site, looking for sex. There are two types of people, type A and type B, both are drawn to the opposite type.

But there are only 5 type B to 50 type A! Not only that, type B generally isn't as keen, even if she does find a good type A.

If both types are just looking for sex, type B has a huge advantage, it's going to be much easier for type B than type A. This is because of supply and demand. She knows her situation and she knows she's in demand. She can very easily get sex. Now look at type A, his outlook isn't so good. It's definitely easier for type B to get sex.

However, there's a really important, overlooked factor; A lot of men are wanting just sex. A lot of women are wanting more than just sex, there are a whole lot of other factors involved to a woman. It's not simply a case of getting sex.

So if you just want sex, sure, it's much easier for the woman, but if you want more than that; a good looking man who is intelligent, who is hot, who isn't desperate, blah blah blah, then it's going to be hard for the woman too."

Exactly

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Well, imagine this; You're on a swinging site, looking for sex. There are two types of people, type A and type B, both are drawn to the opposite type.

But there are only 5 type B to 50 type A! Not only that, type B generally isn't as keen, even if she does find a good type A.

If both types are just looking for sex, type B has a huge advantage, it's going to be much easier for type B than type A. This is because of supply and demand. She knows her situation and she knows she's in demand. She can very easily get sex. Now look at type A, his outlook isn't so good. It's definitely easier for type B to get sex.

However, there's a really important, overlooked factor; A lot of men are wanting just sex. A lot of women are wanting more than just sex, there are a whole lot of other factors involved to a woman. It's not simply a case of getting sex.

So if you just want sex, sure, it's much easier for the woman, but if you want more than that; a good looking man who is intelligent, who is hot, who isn't desperate, blah blah blah, then it's going to be hard for the woman too."

I agree

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Well, imagine this; You're on a swinging site, looking for sex. There are two types of people, type A and type B, both are drawn to the opposite type.

But there are only 5 type B to 50 type A! Not only that, type B generally isn't as keen, even if she does find a good type A.

If both types are just looking for sex, type B has a huge advantage, it's going to be much easier for type B than type A. This is because of supply and demand. She knows her situation and she knows she's in demand. She can very easily get sex. Now look at type A, his outlook isn't so good. It's definitely easier for type B to get sex.

However, there's a really important, overlooked factor; A lot of men are wanting just sex. A lot of women are wanting more than just sex, there are a whole lot of other factors involved to a woman. It's not simply a case of getting sex.

So if you just want sex, sure, it's much easier for the woman, but if you want more than that; a good looking man who is intelligent, who is hot, who isn't desperate, blah blah blah, then it's going to be hard for the woman too."

This better explains what i was thinking

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By *etAnotherDomMan
over a year ago

london

I don't believe in standards I believe in preferences.

To say that people are below (or above)standard is pretty ugh.

To say that people would stick there dick in anything...implies that certain people don't deserve to fuck...is pretty ugh

I think women have it hard...i don't know how you find what you are hoping for when every filter returns 300 people and you have 1000 msgs

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By *eliWoman
over a year ago

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"

So if you just want sex, sure, it's much easier for the woman, but if you want more than that; a good looking man who is intelligent, who is hot, who isn't desperate, blah blah blah, then it's going to be hard for the woman too."

I think that the op is normally said from the frustration and not quite thinking about it from the other perspective. I do think women have it a *bit* easier but really not by much.

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By *uzukiNo1Woman
over a year ago

Rhyl


"I don't believe in standards I believe in preferences.

To say that people are below (or above)standard is pretty ugh.

To say that people would stick there dick in anything...implies that certain people don't deserve to fuck...is pretty ugh

I think women have it hard...i don't know how you find what you are hoping for when every filter returns 300 people and you have 1000 msgs"

10/10 for the use of the word urh...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Depends how you look at it. Most women are sensible enough to know this isnt regular dating site, hence the shit load of messages

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By *uzukiNo1Woman
over a year ago

Rhyl


"I don't believe in standards I believe in preferences.

To say that people are below (or above)standard is pretty ugh.

To say that people would stick there dick in anything...implies that certain people don't deserve to fuck...is pretty ugh

I think women have it hard...i don't know how you find what you are hoping for when every filter returns 300 people and you have 1000 msgs

10/10 for the use of the word urh..."

Or ugh even...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don't believe in standards I believe in preferences.

To say that people are below (or above)standard is pretty ugh.

To say that people would stick there dick in anything...implies that certain people don't deserve to fuck...is pretty ugh

I think women have it hard...i don't know how you find what you are hoping for when every filter returns 300 people and you have 1000 msgs"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It shouldn’t be hard work for anyone. It should be fun and easy. It’s only sex after all"

This, but I thing the “swing” is lost in this site now, and most are expecting it to be a hook up site.

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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago

There and to the left a bit

Thing is it's not a competition, it's not about who has it hardest or easiest and frankly if you choose to see it in those terms you just don't "get" the site and how it works.

As, effectively, a single guy on here, I don't see the site as an effort, or hard work, I don't view myself as being in competition with all the other single guys and I certainly don't blame either others or the number imbalance for my experience of the site.

And that number imbalance (which is actually about 10-15:1) is mostly a fallacy anyway - if you take out those that don't "get" the site, who have the wrong attitude, approach and expectations the numbers are a lot more evenly balanced. Yes women get a lot more messages, but again if you take out the messages that are straight deletes and focus purely on quality, rather than quantity, of message again the numbers balance a lot more evenly.

Either way, in my view, no-one has it harder or easier, just different.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Well, imagine this; You're on a swinging site, looking for sex. There are two types of people, type A and type B, both are drawn to the opposite type.

But there are only 5 type B to 50 type A! Not only that, type B generally isn't as keen, even if she does find a good type A.

If both types are just looking for sex, type B has a huge advantage, it's going to be much easier for type B than type A. This is because of supply and demand. She knows her situation and she knows she's in demand. She can very easily get sex. Now look at type A, his outlook isn't so good. It's definitely easier for type B to get sex.

However, there's a really important, overlooked factor; A lot of men are wanting just sex. A lot of women are wanting more than just sex, there are a whole lot of other factors involved to a woman. It's not simply a case of getting sex.

So if you just want sex, sure, it's much easier for the woman, but if you want more than that; a good looking man who is intelligent, who is hot, who isn't desperate, blah blah blah, then it's going to be hard for the woman too."

Well put!

Saff

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By *eliWoman
over a year ago

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"And that number imbalance (which is actually about 10-15:1) is mostly a fallacy anyway - if you take out those that don't "get" the site, who have the wrong attitude, approach and expectations the numbers are a lot more evenly balanced. Yes women get a lot more messages, but again if you take out the messages that are straight deletes and focus purely on quality, rather than quantity, of message again the numbers balance a lot more evenly.

"

What ratio do you think it goes down to?

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By *retty GoodMan
over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"Not complaining because it is what it is.

But of course women have it easier than men on here, don’t think that’s even debatable

It is debatable. As there’s a forum post about it

How do you think it’s easier? You have less women to chose from

Lol feel silly now yes of course it’s debatable.

The way I see it personally and of course my opinion only, women have the power due to the ratio ( again not complaining ) so a woman can take her pick ( and rightly so ) and can afford to aim higher than in the vanilla world.

Men on the other hand in general may have to aim lower and some men will put there dick anywhere judging by verifications

As I say it is what it is but you can see that on people’s verifications.

Personally I would never lower standards and luckily I do ok but as much as it’s enjoyable it’s also a struggle.

None of this is aimed to offend it’s just my opinion and observations

Afford to aim higher?! In what way?

Only guessing of course but the ratio seems to be a hundred men for every one woman.

So ( and not including myself here ) men to have any interaction here have to lower expectations than in the vanilla world. So women women can aim higher.

Nothing wrong with that at all, but can see this on people’s verifications.

That’s why in MY opinion women have it easier than men

Now do you know that they’re ‘aiming higher’ and that isn’t the same standard that they fuck in real life?

Again it’s not a dig or me complaining, but you can clearly see this on verifications that this is the case. This isn’t an issue it’s just the way of fab

How can you tell from verifications what people are like? What their standards are? Even what their preferences are? Intrigued ... or are you blaming this solely on your interpretation of their looks? "

Yes pretty much and by looking at pics and the verifications you can clearly see this, I’m in no way saying everyone, just in general.

This thread has got abit long, more than happy to discuss further if need be by messaging.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"And that number imbalance (which is actually about 10-15:1) is mostly a fallacy anyway - if you take out those that don't "get" the site, who have the wrong attitude, approach and expectations the numbers are a lot more evenly balanced. Yes women get a lot more messages, but again if you take out the messages that are straight deletes and focus purely on quality, rather than quantity, of message again the numbers balance a lot more evenly.

What ratio do you think it goes down to? "

Omg where I live it's as high as 150-1 and yes we actually counted hahahahahahahahaha

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don’t think it necessarily comes down to women V men but overall there are frustrations on both sides, they’re just different and probably unique to that gender.

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By *ust PeachyWoman
over a year ago

Prestonish

Not speaking for anyone else - but I certainly have it easier than most men on here - and a lot of women by the sound of it!

Yeah I get people who want to fuck my arse now etc but I just ignore them - why get upset?

I rarely get abuse as I don’t send ‘no thanks’ messages - if I read a message and don’t reply I give them credit to assume I’m not interested - just as I assume a guy isn’t interested if they don’t reply to a message from me! Hardly a big deal.

On the rare occasion a total knobhead decides to contact me I’ll delete and - if necessary - block!

I’ve had the best sex of my life on Fab by far - had some lovely dinners with lovely people - and been joined at the cinema when I’ve fancied a film!

Fab works extremely well for me!

If I was a guy - at my age - I can’t imagine I’d have anything like as much choice! I think I’d be doing a LOT of wanking!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Not complaining because it is what it is.

But of course women have it easier than men on here, don’t think that’s even debatable

It is debatable. As there’s a forum post about it

How do you think it’s easier? You have less women to chose from

Lol feel silly now yes of course it’s debatable.

The way I see it personally and of course my opinion only, women have the power due to the ratio ( again not complaining ) so a woman can take her pick ( and rightly so ) and can afford to aim higher than in the vanilla world.

Men on the other hand in general may have to aim lower and some men will put there dick anywhere judging by verifications

As I say it is what it is but you can see that on people’s verifications.

Personally I would never lower standards and luckily I do ok but as much as it’s enjoyable it’s also a struggle.

None of this is aimed to offend it’s just my opinion and observations "

Seems a bit off to suggest that men will put their 'dick anywhere' weren't genuinely attracted to that 'anywhere' or more correctly 'woman' .

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

I do well, mostly. I certainly have my gripes and I think I get more than my share of diabolical messages. But I've developed a thick skin over time and the good outweighs the bad (although I wish the bad didn't exist or didn't keep trying to outdo itself, and just because I manage doesn't mean that the bad doesn't exist or isn't horrible). Echoing others, I've also made friends and had some phenomenal sex.

I feel for single guys who make an effort and treat us like people. I really do. But I don't feel for the horrible entitled Instashag guys.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yawn

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By *iddlesticksMan
over a year ago

My nan’s spare room.

I think it’s a storm in a tea cup.

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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago

There and to the left a bit


"And that number imbalance (which is actually about 10-15:1) is mostly a fallacy anyway - if you take out those that don't "get" the site, who have the wrong attitude, approach and expectations the numbers are a lot more evenly balanced. Yes women get a lot more messages, but again if you take out the messages that are straight deletes and focus purely on quality, rather than quantity, of message again the numbers balance a lot more evenly.

What ratio do you think it goes down to? "

It's not an exact science, and is subjective, so there's not an exact number to put on it, but simple logical fact of the matter is that it *is* more evenly balanced - the trouble is the perception is skewed because you hear on a daily basis from the guys bemoaning their "luck" and lack of "success" and the ladies bemoaning the volume of crappy messages etc.

What you don't hear so much is those that are happily going about their Fab business, enjoying the site, having great experiences and who do "get" it - the fact that there are thousands of veris exchanged and displayed on a daily basis though suggests that there are plenty that fall into that category so are obviously finding each other despite the imbalance.

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By *hilloutMan
over a year ago

All over the place! Northwesr, , Southwest

I've not really had any difficulties or much to complain about on fab. I've loved my time here and have found it very productive and enlightening

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think they mean in the sense women are the ones in charge and can chose who they want, which we do haha

Buttttttttttt on the flip side us females have to deal with the daily shit messages and abuse if we aren't interested, or being spoken to like shit just because we're on a swingers site

I do feel sorry for the genuine single men as they do kinda have a rough ride

P"

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By *ohnjones3210Man
over a year ago

Chester


"And that number imbalance (which is actually about 10-15:1) is mostly a fallacy anyway - if you take out those that don't "get" the site, who have the wrong attitude, approach and expectations the numbers are a lot more evenly balanced. Yes women get a lot more messages, but again if you take out the messages that are straight deletes and focus purely on quality, rather than quantity, of message again the numbers balance a lot more evenly.

What ratio do you think it goes down to?

It's not an exact science, and is subjective, so there's not an exact number to put on it, but simple logical fact of the matter is that it *is* more evenly balanced - the trouble is the perception is skewed because you hear on a daily basis from the guys bemoaning their "luck" and lack of "success" and the ladies bemoaning the volume of crappy messages etc.

What you don't hear so much is those that are happily going about their Fab business, enjoying the site, having great experiences and who do "get" it - the fact that there are thousands of veris exchanged and displayed on a daily basis though suggests that there are plenty that fall into that category so are obviously finding each other despite the imbalance."

Yes. It's hard to say what ratio it goes down to. I could guess, but it wouldn't be based on anything solid.

Let's say for example though, a woman gets 100 messages in a day from 100 men, the chances are that 90 of them are not worth reading and are deleted.

So in this example, we've dropped from a 100:1 competition ratio, to 10:1. Of those messages, the woman will then look at the guys profile and filter a bit further.

Probably 7 of those profiles will have a dick pic or whatever and will also be left. This leaves the time material to be only 3 messages/men out of 100 and this is before they actually message back.

Then what I used to find from my female friends who were on here is that after messaging back, then the man messages back and 2 of the 3 get sexual straight away. Those two then get deleted. Net earnings for the day 1/100.

The decent guy then doesn't reply lol.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Those ratios are optimistic

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yeah sure. IF you wanna constantly have sex with anyone. Trying to find someone who is your type, can fit your schedule, accomodates/travels, not married/with someone (if that's your thing) etc etc. is beyond difficult.

But if we were men, and would shag any hole going, then yeah it's 'easy'.

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By *ohnjones3210Man
over a year ago

Chester


"But if we were men, and would shag any hole going, then yeah it's 'easy'. "

Lols, brutal!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Not complaining because it is what it is.

But of course women have it easier than men on here, don’t think that’s even debatable

It is debatable. As there’s a forum post about it

How do you think it’s easier? You have less women to chose from

Lol feel silly now yes of course it’s debatable.

The way I see it personally and of course my opinion only, women have the power due to the ratio ( again not complaining ) so a woman can take her pick ( and rightly so ) and can afford to aim higher than in the vanilla world.

Men on the other hand in general may have to aim lower and some men will put there dick anywhere judging by verifications

As I say it is what it is but you can see that on people’s verifications.

Personally I would never lower standards and luckily I do ok but as much as it’s enjoyable it’s also a struggle.

None of this is aimed to offend it’s just my opinion and observations

Seems a bit off to suggest that men will put their 'dick anywhere' weren't genuinely attracted to that 'anywhere' or more correctly 'woman' . "

Oh I dunno. Even I popped my dick into my Miele vacuum cleaner hose to see what would happen?

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

*snort*

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Not complaining because it is what it is.

But of course women have it easier than men on here, don’t think that’s even debatable

It is debatable. As there’s a forum post about it

How do you think it’s easier? You have less women to chose from

Lol feel silly now yes of course it’s debatable.

The way I see it personally and of course my opinion only, women have the power due to the ratio ( again not complaining ) so a woman can take her pick ( and rightly so ) and can afford to aim higher than in the vanilla world.

Men on the other hand in general may have to aim lower and some men will put there dick anywhere judging by verifications

As I say it is what it is but you can see that on people’s verifications.

Personally I would never lower standards and luckily I do ok but as much as it’s enjoyable it’s also a struggle.

None of this is aimed to offend it’s just my opinion and observations

Seems a bit off to suggest that men will put their 'dick anywhere' weren't genuinely attracted to that 'anywhere' or more correctly 'woman' .

Oh I dunno. Even I popped my dick into my Miele vacuum cleaner hose to see what would happen? "

and what did happen

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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago

There and to the left a bit


"Not complaining because it is what it is.

But of course women have it easier than men on here, don’t think that’s even debatable

It is debatable. As there’s a forum post about it

How do you think it’s easier? You have less women to chose from

Lol feel silly now yes of course it’s debatable.

The way I see it personally and of course my opinion only, women have the power due to the ratio ( again not complaining ) so a woman can take her pick ( and rightly so ) and can afford to aim higher than in the vanilla world.

Men on the other hand in general may have to aim lower and some men will put there dick anywhere judging by verifications

As I say it is what it is but you can see that on people’s verifications.

Personally I would never lower standards and luckily I do ok but as much as it’s enjoyable it’s also a struggle.

None of this is aimed to offend it’s just my opinion and observations

Seems a bit off to suggest that men will put their 'dick anywhere' weren't genuinely attracted to that 'anywhere' or more correctly 'woman' .

Oh I dunno. Even I popped my dick into my Miele vacuum cleaner hose to see what would happen?

and what did happen "

It sucked

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Not complaining because it is what it is.

But of course women have it easier than men on here, don’t think that’s even debatable

It is debatable. As there’s a forum post about it

How do you think it’s easier? You have less women to chose from

Lol feel silly now yes of course it’s debatable.

The way I see it personally and of course my opinion only, women have the power due to the ratio ( again not complaining ) so a woman can take her pick ( and rightly so ) and can afford to aim higher than in the vanilla world.

Men on the other hand in general may have to aim lower and some men will put there dick anywhere judging by verifications

As I say it is what it is but you can see that on people’s verifications.

Personally I would never lower standards and luckily I do ok but as much as it’s enjoyable it’s also a struggle.

None of this is aimed to offend it’s just my opinion and observations

Seems a bit off to suggest that men will put their 'dick anywhere' weren't genuinely attracted to that 'anywhere' or more correctly 'woman' .

Oh I dunno. Even I popped my dick into my Miele vacuum cleaner hose to see what would happen?

and what did happen

It sucked "

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

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By *eclanHMan
over a year ago

Liphook

I think men may project their measure of success on to women. I suspect, for many men, a shag--*any* shag with near any woman--is a win. And if you presume this as the measure of success, then yes, I think it is much easier for the average woman to get laid than the average man.

What many of the lads don’t necessarily think of is the cost that woman pay in terms of abuse and bad treatment, and the fact that we do not all want the same thing.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"I think men may project their measure of success on to women. I suspect, for many men, a shag--*any* shag with near any woman--is a win. And if you presume this as the measure of success, then yes, I think it is much easier for the average woman to get laid than the average man.

What many of the lads don’t necessarily think of is the cost that woman pay in terms of abuse and bad treatment, and the fact that we do not all want the same thing. "

Yeah, the ratio of admin and abuse to fun isn't good sometimes.

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By *eclanHMan
over a year ago

Liphook


"I think men may project their measure of success on to women. I suspect, for many men, a shag--*any* shag with near any woman--is a win. And if you presume this as the measure of success, then yes, I think it is much easier for the average woman to get laid than the average man.

What many of the lads don’t necessarily think of is the cost that woman pay in terms of abuse and bad treatment, and the fact that we do not all want the same thing.

Yeah, the ratio of admin and abuse to fun isn't good sometimes. "

Depressing that that is still the state of the world.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"I think men may project their measure of success on to women. I suspect, for many men, a shag--*any* shag with near any woman--is a win. And if you presume this as the measure of success, then yes, I think it is much easier for the average woman to get laid than the average man.

What many of the lads don’t necessarily think of is the cost that woman pay in terms of abuse and bad treatment, and the fact that we do not all want the same thing.

Yeah, the ratio of admin and abuse to fun isn't good sometimes.

Depressing that that is still the state of the world."

I find it worth struggling through, but I have enormous sympathy for those who don't or can't.

As I've said many times, I had an utterly horrendous start to my time on Fab.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If ive heard this once this past couple of days ive heard it hundreds of times.

"

I have told you a million times, don't exaggerate

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes but tbh it is not the same frustration at all.

I'd love to see how women would react to being rejected as much as some men on here and see how well they will take it

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By *eclanHMan
over a year ago

Liphook


"Yes but tbh it is not the same frustration at all.

I'd love to see how women would react to being rejected as much as some men on here and see how well they will take it "

More gracefully, I imagine

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes but tbh it is not the same frustration at all.

I'd love to see how women would react to being rejected as much as some men on here and see how well they will take it

More gracefully, I imagine "

yes for sure

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