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Why do good guys always finish last??

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Am I right lady's??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No

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By *SAchickWoman
over a year ago

Hillside desolate

No

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By *aven RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool

No x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nope

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

no they finnish first

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not at all

Holly

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes. #anticonformist

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nah mate

I’m the goodest guy I know and I always finish first.

Loudly.

Lots of it.

In the face or tits.

Ahhhhhhhhhh (cumface)

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By *hilloutMan
over a year ago

All over the place! Northwesr, , Southwest


"Am I right lady's?? "

Who says???

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By *stellaWoman
over a year ago

London


"Nah mate

I’m the goodest guy I know and I always finish first.

Loudly.

Lots of it.

In the face or tits.

Ahhhhhhhhhh (cumface)"

Finishing before anyone else starts is unfortunate.

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By *he rover returnedWoman
over a year ago

xxx

Your right

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Nah mate

I’m the goodest guy I know and I always finish first.

Loudly.

Lots of it.

In the face or tits.

Ahhhhhhhhhh (cumface)

Finishing before anyone else starts is unfortunate."

Don’t bring your chess skills (or lack of) into this stelly.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What if you can't finish? What does that make them?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No, you’re wrong

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Also I can last longer than anyone else here .... Sorry I just felt like gloating

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By *stellaWoman
over a year ago

London


"Nah mate

I’m the goodest guy I know and I always finish first.

Loudly.

Lots of it.

In the face or tits.

Ahhhhhhhhhh (cumface)

Finishing before anyone else starts is unfortunate.

Don’t bring your chess skills (or lack of) into this stelly."

Ahhhh I’m debating the Sokolsky or the Larsen’s opening for you.

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By *eclanHMan
over a year ago

Liphook

I’d be wary of so-called nice.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

It's always a let down when play ends with his orgasm. Often an abrupt, jarring, but clichéd end.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In what way might this statement actually play out. I need examples please.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"It's always a let down when play ends with his orgasm. Often an abrupt, jarring, but clichéd end. "
yes but that's why you have a tongue

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"In what way might this statement actually play out. I need examples please.

"
most women not all but generally my age group go for the bad boy type over a gentlemen x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"In what way might this statement actually play out. I need examples please.

most women not all but generally my age group go for the bad boy type over a gentlemen x"

I disagree

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"In what way might this statement actually play out. I need examples please.

most women not all but generally my age group go for the bad boy type over a gentlemen x"

Oh god that cliché.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"In what way might this statement actually play out. I need examples please.

most women not all but generally my age group go for the bad boy type over a gentlemen x"

So define bad boy.

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By *tephTV67TV/TS
over a year ago

Cheshire

Intelligent and witty guys always finish first, and guess what..they know it

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"In what way might this statement actually play out. I need examples please.

most women not all but generally my age group go for the bad boy type over a gentlemen x

Oh god that cliché. "
OK well a different one could be a millionaire with the personality of a ironing board or an average working class.. What would you go for

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By *stellaWoman
over a year ago

London


"In what way might this statement actually play out. I need examples please.

most women not all but generally my age group go for the bad boy type over a gentlemen x"

I have occasionally wondered if there’s sometimes an element of denial when men say it’s because I’m a good guy blah blah, can she simply not fancy you? Not everyone fancies everyone - sometimes it’s nothing to do with being a bad guy over a good guy, sometimes it’s actually an interesting and attractive and compatible (to her) guy versus simply one who is not.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"In what way might this statement actually play out. I need examples please.

most women not all but generally my age group go for the bad boy type over a gentlemen x

I have occasionally wondered if there’s sometimes an element of denial when men say it’s because I’m a good guy blah blah, can she simply not fancy you? Not everyone fancies everyone - sometimes it’s nothing to do with being a bad guy over a good guy, sometimes it’s actually an interesting and attractive and compatible (to her) guy versus simply one who is not."

It’s like the ‘friendzone’

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I know quite a few women who are dating men who treat them like shite.

They don't seem to want a respectable man who would do anything for them.

I sometimes think to my self the worser you are to some people, the better you are treated.

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By *2000ManMan
over a year ago

Worthing

Guys who are doormats finish last. On a number of occasions in conversation to me, women have sneered that their partner "does everything I say". All divorced their partners. So chaps, say no now and again.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I know quite a few women who are dating men who treat them like shite.

They don't seem to want a respectable man who would do anything for them.

I sometimes think to my self the worser you are to some people, the better you are treated. "

People who are in relationships who are being treated or treating like shite aren't to be envied. Its not a healthy aspiration

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By *hetalkingstoveMan
over a year ago

London

If all you have to say for yourself is that you're 'nice' then of course you'll finish last.

'Nice' is fine but you need something to go with that.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"In what way might this statement actually play out. I need examples please.

most women not all but generally my age group go for the bad boy type over a gentlemen x

Oh god that cliché. OK well a different one could be a millionaire with the personality of a ironing board or an average working class.. What would you go for "

I'm an individual who'd make my choices based on specifics. But if it's someone who's bad with a lot of money or good without, I'd go for the good person. Because I'm a person not a cartoon villain to satisfy people who would rather blame others for their own unhappiness.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I know quite a few women who are dating men who treat them like shite.

They don't seem to want a respectable man who would do anything for them.

I sometimes think to my self the worser you are to some people, the better you are treated.

People who are in relationships who are being treated or treating like shite aren't to be envied. Its not a healthy aspiration "

I don't envy them. I'm just saying it how I see it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Nah mate

I’m the goodest guy I know and I always finish first.

Loudly.

Lots of it.

In the face or tits.

Ahhhhhhhhhh (cumface)

Finishing before anyone else starts is unfortunate.

Don’t bring your chess skills (or lack of) into this stelly.

Ahhhh I’m debating the Sokolsky or the Larsen’s opening for you. "

Go on then pour me a double

I like the vodka, I’ve been mistaken for a Russian more than once... it’s the big nose I think

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

Maybe your confusing good with boring

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I know quite a few women who are dating men who treat them like shite.

They don't seem to want a respectable man who would do anything for them.

I sometimes think to my self the worser you are to some people, the better you are treated.

People who are in relationships who are being treated or treating like shite aren't to be envied. Its not a healthy aspiration

I don't envy them. I'm just saying it how I see it. "

Well believe me you are seeing it all wrong.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I know quite a few women who are dating men who treat them like shite.

They don't seem to want a respectable man who would do anything for them.

I sometimes think to my self the worser you are to some people, the better you are treated. "

They have choices. But sometimes escaping an abusive relationship isn't easy. It also seems you are judging others relationships from outside, and with your own preconceptions.

How can you really know what goes on in anothers life?

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By *ady LickWoman
over a year ago

Northampton Somewhere


"In what way might this statement actually play out. I need examples please.

most women not all but generally my age group go for the bad boy type over a gentlemen x

I have occasionally wondered if there’s sometimes an element of denial when men say it’s because I’m a good guy blah blah, can she simply not fancy you? Not everyone fancies everyone - sometimes it’s nothing to do with being a bad guy over a good guy, sometimes it’s actually an interesting and attractive and compatible (to her) guy versus simply one who is not."

Watch out, Estella is in sensible mode!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I know quite a few women who are dating men who treat them like shite.

They don't seem to want a respectable man who would do anything for them.

I sometimes think to my self the worser you are to some people, the better you are treated.

People who are in relationships who are being treated or treating like shite aren't to be envied. Its not a healthy aspiration

I don't envy them. I'm just saying it how I see it.

Well believe me you are seeing it all wrong. "

Be nice to people and they will walk all over you. Be a cunt to them and you may get some respect.

No that I be nasty to anyone, but I believe this is true to a certain extent.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I know quite a few women who are dating men who treat them like shite.

They don't seem to want a respectable man who would do anything for them.

I sometimes think to my self the worser you are to some people, the better you are treated.

They have choices. But sometimes escaping an abusive relationship isn't easy. It also seems you are judging others relationships from outside, and with your own preconceptions.

How can you really know what goes on in anothers life?"

I've seen and heard enough.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Maybe your confusing good with boring"
very blunt opinion

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think human interaction is complex and chemistry is difficult to define and is different for everyone. Everyone is a combination of good and bad traits. Good guys have bad traits just as bad guys have good traits. Just the balance may be different. Who someone fancies is based on how they experience the chemistry with that other person, the experiences they have when they interact with them and are with them and how it connects to deep seated needs in each individual.

In the main those who are more successful are confident in themselves and have a way of connecting with others needs, those that are less successful haven’t found a way to do that yet.

I’m more successful in being seen as a friend than being desired, however I’m not sure what sort of concept of friendship that is. In the end I have to accept I’m only compatible with a few people. Maybe I’ll find them, maybe I won’t be successful in finding them, but the only person who can do change it is me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Maybe your confusing good with boring"

I don’t necessarily think it’s boring, I think it’s more a case of nice guy but there’s no chemistry. You see it dating shows all the time.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I know quite a few women who are dating men who treat them like shite.

They don't seem to want a respectable man who would do anything for them.

I sometimes think to my self the worser you are to some people, the better you are treated.

People who are in relationships who are being treated or treating like shite aren't to be envied. Its not a healthy aspiration

I don't envy them. I'm just saying it how I see it.

Well believe me you are seeing it all wrong.

Be nice to people and they will walk all over you. Be a cunt to them and you may get some respect.

No that I be nasty to anyone, but I believe this is true to a certain extent. "

You may get what you percieve as respect but it wont be true respect, it will be borne of fear or loathing. Much better to just be good? if that means your considered boring I would choose boring over cunt any day of the week personally

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"I think human interaction is complex and chemistry is difficult to define and is different for everyone. Everyone is a combination of good and bad traits. Good guys have bad traits just as bad guys have good traits. Just the balance may be different. Who someone fancies is based on how they experience the chemistry with that other person, the experiences they have when they interact with them and are with them and how it connects to deep seated needs in each individual.

In the main those who are more successful are confident in themselves and have a way of connecting with others needs, those that are less successful haven’t found a way to do that yet.

I’m more successful in being seen as a friend than being desired, however I’m not sure what sort of concept of friendship that is. In the end I have to accept I’m only compatible with a few people. Maybe I’ll find them, maybe I won’t be successful in finding them, but the only person who can do change it is me."

This is wise.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Women are just as complicated as men, with our own inner thoughts, desires, idiosyncrasies. We don't owe you logic, nor you us.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think human interaction is complex and chemistry is difficult to define and is different for everyone. Everyone is a combination of good and bad traits. Good guys have bad traits just as bad guys have good traits. Just the balance may be different. Who someone fancies is based on how they experience the chemistry with that other person, the experiences they have when they interact with them and are with them and how it connects to deep seated needs in each individual.

In the main those who are more successful are confident in themselves and have a way of connecting with others needs, those that are less successful haven’t found a way to do that yet.

I’m more successful in being seen as a friend than being desired, however I’m not sure what sort of concept of friendship that is. In the end I have to accept I’m only compatible with a few people. Maybe I’ll find them, maybe I won’t be successful in finding them, but the only person who can do change it is me.

This is wise. "
Thanks. It was learned through the ups and downs of my life and as learn a bit more each day from each experience with another person.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I know quite a few women who are dating men who treat them like shite.

They don't seem to want a respectable man who would do anything for them.

I sometimes think to my self the worser you are to some people, the better you are treated.

People who are in relationships who are being treated or treating like shite aren't to be envied. Its not a healthy aspiration

I don't envy them. I'm just saying it how I see it.

Well believe me you are seeing it all wrong.

Be nice to people and they will walk all over you. Be a cunt to them and you may get some respect.

No that I be nasty to anyone, but I believe this is true to a certain extent. "

That’s a very distorted black and white view of successful human relating and is not borne out by research. Co-dependencecan cause unhealthy ways of relating like you describe but healthy human relationships don’t function like that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I know quite a few women who are dating men who treat them like shite.

They don't seem to want a respectable man who would do anything for them.

I sometimes think to my self the worser you are to some people, the better you are treated.

People who are in relationships who are being treated or treating like shite aren't to be envied. Its not a healthy aspiration

I don't envy them. I'm just saying it how I see it.

Well believe me you are seeing it all wrong.

Be nice to people and they will walk all over you. Be a cunt to them and you may get some respect.

No that I be nasty to anyone, but I believe this is true to a certain extent.

That’s a very distorted black and white view of successful human relating and is not borne out by research. Co-depends can cause unhealthy ways of relating like you describe but healthy human relationships don’t function like that"

It is a really horrible way to look at human interaction, wrong in so many ways

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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL

No they don't.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Women are just as complicated as men, with our own inner thoughts, desires, idiosyncrasies. We don't owe you logic, nor you us. "
So true too. Logic has only small part to play in it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I know quite a few women who are dating men who treat them like shite.

They don't seem to want a respectable man who would do anything for them.

I sometimes think to my self the worser you are to some people, the better you are treated.

People who are in relationships who are being treated or treating like shite aren't to be envied. Its not a healthy aspiration

I don't envy them. I'm just saying it how I see it.

Well believe me you are seeing it all wrong.

Be nice to people and they will walk all over you. Be a cunt to them and you may get some respect.

No that I be nasty to anyone, but I believe this is true to a certain extent.

That’s a very distorted black and white view of successful human relating and is not borne out by research. Co-depends can cause unhealthy ways of relating like you describe but healthy human relationships don’t function like that

It is a really horrible way to look at human interaction, wrong in so many ways "

Sadly sometimes the way we interpret our experiences and the glasses we use to view those experiences leads to a limiting set of beliefs.

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By *ltcouple666Couple
over a year ago

cheshire


"Am I right lady's?? "

Only with the wrong people..lots of people prefer good guys

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman
over a year ago

On a mooch


"I think human interaction is complex and chemistry is difficult to define and is different for everyone. Everyone is a combination of good and bad traits. Good guys have bad traits just as bad guys have good traits. Just the balance may be different. Who someone fancies is based on how they experience the chemistry with that other person, the experiences they have when they interact with them and are with them and how it connects to deep seated needs in each individual.

In the main those who are more successful are confident in themselves and have a way of connecting with others needs, those that are less successful haven’t found a way to do that yet.

I’m more successful in being seen as a friend than being desired, however I’m not sure what sort of concept of friendship that is. In the end I have to accept I’m only compatible with a few people. Maybe I’ll find them, maybe I won’t be successful in finding them, but the only person who can do change it is me."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Tell me OP, what do you consider a good guy?

And do you always finish last?

Or do you just view fab as some form of competition?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think there's a bit of good and bad in all of us. If good means appearing nice 100% of the time and in everyone's eyes then I don't think good could exist!

I expect most guys who lose out on a girl to another guy would consider the other guy to be "bad" , simply in order to help themselves feel "good"....

Steve x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Personally I think it's lack of self confidence/self esteem guy (or girl) finishes last more than the cliched good guy ... I just happen to be both Lol

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By *YC SausageMan
over a year ago

Liverpool


"Am I right lady's?? "

Women will always say they want someone honest and genuine. But give them a choice and they’ll pick the bad boy every time.

So yes, I’d say good guys will always finish last

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By *ittlevixenWoman
over a year ago

Mold North Wales


"Am I right lady's?? "

No I don’t believe good guys finish last. No more than I believe they finish first.. I believe it’s all about the combination.

You can have a good guy and a woman who takes advantage of that.

You can also have a good guy with a woman who respects that and enjoys his qualities.

You can have a bad guy and a weak or strong minded woman that will obviously make the difference on the effects.

Long and short there’s no such thing as a bad woman or a bad guy or even a good guy and a good woman ONLY GOOD AND BAD COMBINATIONS

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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL


"Am I right lady's??

Women will always say they want someone honest and genuine. But give them a choice and they’ll pick the bad boy every time.

So yes, I’d say good guys will always finish last "

Bit of a generalisation there, most women don't, I'm sure.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I win where its possible id not say im good or bad im just better

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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago

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No.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Anyway.. if your a nice guy, you should always "finish" last

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No, simply not true.

I will however say that often on here I've seen the term 'nice' used as a vague term, often as a last refuge of guys trying to convince a lady to sleep with them; "why won't you sleep with me? I'm nice"

Being nice doesn't trump a person's preference, nor, if it's the only thing that you have going for you, is it going to get you anything.

It's perfectly possible to treat a person with respect, behave honourably and well, be kind to puppies, etc, and to also be smart, funny and a whole host of other positive personality traits.

To me, selling yourself as being 'nice' is a bit like selling a car by saying it has wheels; it should go without saying.

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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago

There and to the left a bit

"Good guys finish last" - the phrase rolled out so often, especially on here to explain a perceived lack of "success" and neatly blame others for that perception to make the user of the phrase feel better about themselves.

Simple fact of the matter is attraction is not a competition, nor is Fab, there are no good guys or bad guys only individuals and each has it within their own hands to make the best of their experience (whether that be of Fab or life in general) that they can.

Be true to yourself, listen to advice given, and find what works for you and whilst there will be instances in life where others may impact your experience, Fab, for the most part, isn't one of them.

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By *eclanHMan
over a year ago

Liphook


"No, simply not true.

I will however say that often on here I've seen the term 'nice' used as a vague term, often as a last refuge of guys trying to convince a lady to sleep with them; "why won't you sleep with me? I'm nice"

Being nice doesn't trump a person's preference, nor, if it's the only thing that you have going for you, is it going to get you anything.

It's perfectly possible to treat a person with respect, behave honourably and well, be kind to puppies, etc, and to also be smart, funny and a whole host of other positive personality traits.

To me, selling yourself as being 'nice' is a bit like selling a car by saying it has wheels; it should go without saying. "

Agreed. Nice often turns out to be not nice, especially when rejected. And so-called ‘bad boys’ may have a better grasp of consent and decency. Or am I wrong there? Anyway, it’s the bare fucking minimal, nice. What else do you have to offer than people a decent human being, like most everyone else.

I think

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


""Good guys finish last" - the phrase rolled out so often, especially on here to explain a perceived lack of "success" and neatly blame others for that perception to make the user of the phrase feel better about themselves.

Simple fact of the matter is attraction is not a competition, nor is Fab, there are no good guys or bad guys only individuals and each has it within their own hands to make the best of their experience (whether that be of Fab or life in general) that they can.

Be true to yourself, listen to advice given, and find what works for you and whilst there will be instances in life where others may impact your experience, Fab, for the most part, isn't one of them."

I try tell men that

It’s like the whole ‘I’m clean and friendly’ thing. Okay? That should be a given, surely?! You’re not going to get bonus points for showering

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


""Good guys finish last" - the phrase rolled out so often, especially on here to explain a perceived lack of "success" and neatly blame others for that perception to make the user of the phrase feel better about themselves.

Simple fact of the matter is attraction is not a competition, nor is Fab, there are no good guys or bad guys only individuals and each has it within their own hands to make the best of their experience (whether that be of Fab or life in general) that they can.

Be true to yourself, listen to advice given, and find what works for you and whilst there will be instances in life where others may impact your experience, Fab, for the most part, isn't one of them."

You put that much better than I was about to

Thanks Gem, you might have just saved me some time of the naughty step

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

It often boils down to this.

Some guys assume that if they're nice, they're owed attention and sex. So they're friendly, but it's fake or there's no substance or personality behind it. Which is shallow and unattractive. So women go for people they find attractive.

If people would just be themselves and realise that we like who we like and no one owes you sex, everyone would be happier.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No definitely not..

Patience respect and wit go a long way..

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By *eclanHMan
over a year ago

Liphook


"It often boils down to this.

Some guys assume that if they're nice, they're owed attention and sex. So they're friendly, but it's fake or there's no substance or personality behind it. Which is shallow and unattractive. So women go for people they find attractive.

If people would just be themselves and realise that we like who we like and no one owes you sex, everyone would be happier. "

That’s well put.

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By *uke olovingmanMan
over a year ago

Gravesend

Great guys finish simultaneously

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

TBF women don't like when you finish first dude

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

To any genuine good guys stay as you are as there will be a lady out there that will appreciate you for it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'd rather someone was a genuinely decent human than 'nice'

Nice can be falsified, nice can be subjective.

Nice guys are awesome, if they're genuinely decent humans and have more than 'nice' going for them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It often boils down to this.

Some guys assume that if they're nice, they're owed attention and sex. So they're friendly, but it's fake or there's no substance or personality behind it. Which is shallow and unattractive. So women go for people they find attractive.

If people would just be themselves and realise that we like who we like and no one owes you sex, everyone would be happier. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Same as when people say they're genuine. Well Harold Shipman wasn't a fucking hologram, he was a genuine doctor and look how that turned out.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Same as when people say they're genuine. Well Harold Shipman wasn't a fucking hologram, he was a genuine doctor and look how that turned out.

P"

It's the bare minimum, really. Please give me this £100k job, I'm actually a person.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"In what way might this statement actually play out. I need examples please.

most women not all but generally my age group go for the bad boy type over a gentlemen x"

And how does that equate to coming last? Because you don't get to shag shallow people? If they are your standards you maybe need to raise them!

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By *JohnMan
over a year ago

Newcastle upon Tyne


"I know quite a few women who are dating men who treat them like shite.

They don't seem to want a respectable man who would do anything for them."

Do you know how the relationship in the first paragraph started? It started like the second.

(OK, that's a gross generalisation and I have no idea how often it's true. But I have seen similar things too many times. Anyway...)

The second paragraph sounds like a desperate man. There's nothing like desperation to make a woman run. A desperate man will present himself as whatever he believes a woman will want, and that is never his true self. If some poor woman is fooled, then sooner or later complacency takes over and the real man comes out.

I consider myself a decent person. I can be kind and generous and intelligent and funny (if you have a matching sense of humour). I can also be forgetful, thoughtless and selfish. Because I'm human. I don't pretend to be something that I'm not. It's working OK for me.

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By *partharmonyCouple
over a year ago

Ruislip


"Am I right lady's?? "

20 years ago I would have agreed with you. I (Luke) am a quintessential "nice guy". I'm respectful, non-pushy and always try to keep people happy. In my teens and 20s women just didn't seem interested.

Then in my late 30s something happened. I went to swingers clubs as a single man and got lucky every time. I found a swinging partner through an entirely different route and was with her for a year before her life circumstances changed, and then found another afterwards. I learned how to be damn good in the sack. I got lucky on Tinder. I've had an ffm threesome and carried out some big fantasies.

The icing on the cake is meeting Hannah last year who is my soul mate and we are in love. We see eye to eye on many things including sex, and we are now exploring our fantasies together as partners, and I have never been happier.

I'd say now that, as a nice guy, I'm one of luckiest men around. None if that would have happened if I hadn't been so nice.

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By *entakuruMan
over a year ago

Exeter

I'm horrible and finish last but one

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By *adyJayneWoman
over a year ago

Burnleyish (She/They)


"It often boils down to this.

Some guys assume that if they're nice, they're owed attention and sex. So they're friendly, but it's fake or there's no substance or personality behind it. Which is shallow and unattractive. So women go for people they find attractive.

If people would just be themselves and realise that we like who we like and no one owes you sex, everyone would be happier.

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