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"‘Look!!!!! I’ve had sex with someone who probably doesn’t know I’ve put their photo on the internet!!!!!!’" This! | |||
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"‘Look!!!!! I’ve had sex with someone who probably doesn’t know I’ve put their photo on the internet!!!!!!’" Exactly this It’s a very good way to advertise that you probably aren’t someone who respects boundaries! It’s also against the site rules I think | |||
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"‘Look!!!!! I’ve had sex with someone who probably doesn’t know I’ve put their photo on the internet!!!!!!’" | |||
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"Thought so, a bit 'Yay, I've scored' but so unlikely to be trusted again. What happens in Vegas etc, unless all parties wish to share their experience online, which obviously needs permission. Why would you? Bizarre!" | |||
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"I really don't care what you think. Why only men? plenty of couples do the same(ie not their partners)and women, are they bragging or just free from criticism? If it makes me less a prospective shag, I dont really give a fuck." Okay, I think? Haven't seen couples doing this but won't argue. My point was I don't understand why anyone would. It's a sex site so sex is kinda expected during a meet. My sole point was why they post pics of others on their own profile? | |||
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"I really don't care what you think. Why only men? plenty of couples do the same(ie not their partners)and women, are they bragging or just free from criticism? If it makes me less a prospective shag, I dont really give a fuck. Okay, I think? Haven't seen couples doing this but won't argue. My point was I don't understand why anyone would. It's a sex site so sex is kinda expected during a meet. My sole point was why they post pics of others on their own profile?" here is the scenario: a couple meets another couple, they all have sex and agree to film/photograph it. each couple posts pics of their play within the rules of the site. so are they bragging they've met another hot couple? maybe, maybe not. Now why would that be different for me as a single male, following the same rules as the couples? | |||
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"I really don't care what you think. Why only men? plenty of couples do the same(ie not their partners)and women, are they bragging or just free from criticism? If it makes me less a prospective shag, I dont really give a fuck. Okay, I think? Haven't seen couples doing this but won't argue. My point was I don't understand why anyone would. It's a sex site so sex is kinda expected during a meet. My sole point was why they post pics of others on their own profile?" This might be a sex site, but I make it clear to people I'm meeting that sex is not a given. | |||
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"Even if sex occurs, posting pics online surely needs consent?" If you post a pic of another on your profile, you follow the rules and have consent.Regardless of your gender or marital status. | |||
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"I'm struggling to understand why men post images of ladies they have played with on their profile. Well done, you have scored? She's fit you're punching way above your category? Will other ladies and couples be impressed? Anyone have an idea, I don't? " Haha I know ! Even more strange when the whole pic is the woman and her lovely body with maybe a hand or just the cock of the man !! Maybe to get them on hotpics or something ? Personally it’s an instant turn off for me | |||
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"I'm struggling to understand why men post images of ladies they have played with on their profile. Well done, you have scored? She's fit you're punching way above your category? Will other ladies and couples be impressed? Anyone have an idea, I don't? Haha I know ! Even more strange when the whole pic is the woman and her lovely body with maybe a hand or just the cock of the man !! Maybe to get them on hotpics or something ? Personally it’s an instant turn off for me " Me too. Instant turn off. I just think yuk. | |||
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"Even if sex occurs, posting pics online surely needs consent? If you post a pic of another on your profile, you follow the rules and have consent.Regardless of your gender or marital status." Not everyone has consent. Most of the men who I've asked who the woman is in their photos, have said it's their ex. | |||
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"Even if sex occurs, posting pics online surely needs consent? If you post a pic of another on your profile, you follow the rules and have consent.Regardless of your gender or marital status. Not everyone has consent. Most of the men who I've asked who the woman is in their photos, have said it's their ex. " Yeah especially if there’s no condom! Oh that’s my ex . Okaaaaaaaayyyyy | |||
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"Even if sex occurs, posting pics online surely needs consent? If you post a pic of another on your profile, you follow the rules and have consent.Regardless of your gender or marital status. Not everyone has consent. Most of the men who I've asked who the woman is in their photos, have said it's their ex. " True and I bet the ex doesn’t even know their pic is being used | |||
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"I'm thinking when a bloke does this it's even more basic. They are proving they are actually physically able to have sex. Which I guess can be taken as a positive? " Hmmmm | |||
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"I'm thinking when a bloke does this it's even more basic. They are proving they are actually physically able to have sex. Which I guess can be taken as a positive? Hmmmm " Morning shortish.. the sarcasm slipped out of me... tucked it back in now.. xx | |||
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"Even if sex occurs, posting pics online surely needs consent? If you post a pic of another on your profile, you follow the rules and have consent.Regardless of your gender or marital status. Not everyone has consent. Most of the men who I've asked who the woman is in their photos, have said it's their ex. Yeah especially if there’s no condom! Oh that’s my ex . Okaaaaaaaayyyyy" Pmsl - yeah with pics of at least 4 different women too lol | |||
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"I'm thinking when a bloke does this it's even more basic. They are proving they are actually physically able to have sex. Which I guess can be taken as a positive? Hmmmm Morning shortish.. the sarcasm slipped out of me... tucked it back in now.. xx " Morning Audit I should think so too ... but your forgiven... xx | |||
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"I'm struggling to understand why men post images of ladies they have played with on their profile. Well done, you have scored? She's fit you're punching way above your category? Will other ladies and couples be impressed? Anyone have an idea, I don't? " What about women showing people they can out a penis in their mouth? | |||
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"I'm struggling to understand why men post images of ladies they have played with on their profile. Well done, you have scored? She's fit you're punching way above your category? Will other ladies and couples be impressed? Anyone have an idea, I don't? " Bragging rights/trying to prove they're worth their weight. Unless it's either an amazing photo of them (I'm guilty of this one, because I have an image up from a shoot I did for a mates site/products) or it's kink related, there isn't really a reason for someone else to be in a photo on here | |||
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"I really don't care what you think. Why only men? plenty of couples do the same(ie not their partners)and women, are they bragging or just free from criticism? If it makes me less a prospective shag, I dont really give a fuck. Okay, I think? Haven't seen couples doing this but won't argue. My point was I don't understand why anyone would. It's a sex site so sex is kinda expected during a meet. My sole point was why they post pics of others on their own profile?" You can’t look at many couples profiles! Loads have pics of two women together or a guy and presumably the female half. You tend to presume the partner is behind the camera. | |||
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"It annoys me more on couples profiles, at least if it's a guys profile I know he's the one with the penis. On some couples profiles I find myself having to scrutinise the pics to figure out who the male half is, especially if there's loads of group shots." There playing the game " Guess Who" the penis version | |||
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"It annoys me more on couples profiles, at least if it's a guys profile I know he's the one with the penis. On some couples profiles I find myself having to scrutinise the pics to figure out who the male half is, especially if there's loads of group shots. There playing the game " Guess Who" the penis version " I’m copywriting that as a new adult after dinner game. Thanks | |||
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"Even if sex occurs, posting pics online surely needs consent?" Fully agree | |||
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"Even if sex occurs, posting pics online surely needs consent? If you post a pic of another on your profile, you follow the rules and have consent.Regardless of your gender or marital status. Not everyone has consent. Most of the men who I've asked who the woman is in their photos, have said it's their ex. True and I bet the ex doesn’t even know their pic is being used " Nope! | |||
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"Almost as daft as people who have pictures of their pets on Tinder..." Or even worse, their offspring. | |||
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"It annoys me more on couples profiles, at least if it's a guys profile I know he's the one with the penis. On some couples profiles I find myself having to scrutinise the pics to figure out who the male half is, especially if there's loads of group shots. There playing the game " Guess Who" the penis version I’m copywriting that as a new adult after dinner game. Thanks " Just send the royalty payments in cake every month | |||
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"Almost as daft as people who have pictures of their pets on Tinder... Or even worse, their offspring. " Yes! Totally agree. | |||
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"Almost as daft as people who have pictures of their pets on Tinder... Or even worse, their offspring. " This happens | |||
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"Almost as daft as people who have pictures of their pets on Tinder... Or even worse, their offspring. This happens " Yes it 100% happens! | |||
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"Have to say this is the same other way round) with some ladies on here and also quite a lot of couples have photos of others. These are all off putting to us. Mr2 " I have a pic of me and a woman to show I'm bi and a pic of me and two men to show I enjoy group sex. I have the permission of the other people to post them. | |||
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"I really don't care what you think. Why only men? plenty of couples do the same(ie not their partners)and women, are they bragging or just free from criticism? If it makes me less a prospective shag, I dont really give a fuck. Okay, I think? Haven't seen couples doing this but won't argue. My point was I don't understand why anyone would. It's a sex site so sex is kinda expected during a meet. My sole point was why they post pics of others on their own profile?" If your point is why would anyone do it then I suggest you think about how you title your threads, as this one clearly states men. | |||
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"Even if sex occurs, posting pics online surely needs consent? If you post a pic of another on your profile, you follow the rules and have consent.Regardless of your gender or marital status." And how would you prove consent, were someone to turn nasty Action shots smack of "I feel the need to prove Ive had sex" Vulgar, crass and a little bit sad | |||
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"Even if sex occurs, posting pics online surely needs consent? If you post a pic of another on your profile, you follow the rules and have consent.Regardless of your gender or marital status. And how would you prove consent, were someone to turn nasty Action shots smack of "I feel the need to prove Ive had sex" Vulgar, crass and a little bit sad" please dont assume that you are correct as some form of fact, whether you think it's vulgar,crass or sad. by your own statement one could say it's a bit vulgar that you have a shot of you partially unclothed as your avatar- why not just be clothed?- now that isn't a fair judgement is it? Fab does not ask you to prove consent was asked, it has a common sense feature built in that will assume those in pictures are over the age of 18 and have consented. As I previously stated, the rules are that you can have other people in your pictures as long as they cannot be identified, and this is not tailored towards any particular group. Whether you agree with it is irrelevant,whether you like it is irrelevant. If anything was to go nasty- ie revenge porn, you contact the police as fab can do fuck all about it really. I hope you are not being gender specific to who can post imagery on an adult based site, which pretty much encourages its users by rewarding them with more pictures for the users account and there is also different categories of 'vulgarity', you feel that you can say a man or woman(or couple) who have an action shot are just proving that they can have sex?- or are you just being gender specific? If you don't like action shots fine, no need to judge others as crass,vulgar nor sad. | |||
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"I'm struggling to understand why men post images of ladies they have played with on their profile. Well done, you have scored? She's fit you're punching way above your category? Will other ladies and couples be impressed? Anyone have an idea, I don't? " This has needed saying. | |||
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"I'm not impressed. And I wouldn't meet them either." | |||
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"It annoys me more on couples profiles, at least if it's a guys profile I know he's the one with the penis. On some couples profiles I find myself having to scrutinise the pics to figure out who the male half is, especially if there's loads of group shots." | |||
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"I'm struggling to understand why men post images of ladies they have played with on their profile. Well done, you have scored? She's fit you're punching way above your category? Will other ladies and couples be impressed? Anyone have an idea, I don't? " I actually never though of it like that! I have permission from the lady in my pics but I think your right. It’s all about respect, trust and discretion. My pics were all in the “friends photos” part but have now been removed. | |||
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"The one thing that comes through in all these comments is that people on here are getting so bloody opinionated and quite arrogant! It's beginning to feel like facebook where everybody gets offended everytime the wind changes. "I wouldn't meet them because of it.........." "are they just trying to show off that the've had sex?" How on earth do you know why that person put that pic up? It could be for hundreds of reasons that they thought it applicable - hundreds of reasons that you have no idea about. I had rather a nasty situation just recently - where i contacted a couple i had messaged before, in response to their request for a meet - to say that myself and a friend were available - and you know the friend xxxxxxxx " . They immediately replied to say we don't condone you two having a conversation about us - and goodbye! Then proceeded to block everybody. errrrr........we didn't have a conversation about you.......we have never spoke about you to each other. They then updated their status to tell the whole of fabworld that they cannot trust people any longer ffs! Myself and the other guy had never ever discussed them - ever! How did i know that they knew my friend? Via their veris's on their own profile. Assumptions...........they make an ass out of u and me! " So you offered to meet them with another man but you hadn't asked the other man about it? | |||
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"Even if sex occurs, posting pics online surely needs consent? If you post a pic of another on your profile, you follow the rules and have consent.Regardless of your gender or marital status. And how would you prove consent, were someone to turn nasty Action shots smack of "I feel the need to prove Ive had sex" Vulgar, crass and a little bit sad please dont assume that you are correct as some form of fact, whether you think it's vulgar,crass or sad. by your own statement one could say it's a bit vulgar that you have a shot of you partially unclothed as your avatar- why not just be clothed?- now that isn't a fair judgement is it? Fab does not ask you to prove consent was asked, it has a common sense feature built in that will assume those in pictures are over the age of 18 and have consented. As I previously stated, the rules are that you can have other people in your pictures as long as they cannot be identified, and this is not tailored towards any particular group. Whether you agree with it is irrelevant,whether you like it is irrelevant. If anything was to go nasty- ie revenge porn, you contact the police as fab can do fuck all about it really. I hope you are not being gender specific to who can post imagery on an adult based site, which pretty much encourages its users by rewarding them with more pictures for the users account and there is also different categories of 'vulgarity', you feel that you can say a man or woman(or couple) who have an action shot are just proving that they can have sex?- or are you just being gender specific? If you don't like action shots fine, no need to judge others as crass,vulgar nor sad. " Yeah oakie doke You know as well as I do that most guys that have pics of them hanging outta some woman, do not have consent. | |||
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"Even if sex occurs, posting pics online surely needs consent? If you post a pic of another on your profile, you follow the rules and have consent.Regardless of your gender or marital status. And how would you prove consent, were someone to turn nasty Action shots smack of "I feel the need to prove Ive had sex" Vulgar, crass and a little bit sad please dont assume that you are correct as some form of fact, whether you think it's vulgar,crass or sad. by your own statement one could say it's a bit vulgar that you have a shot of you partially unclothed as your avatar- why not just be clothed?- now that isn't a fair judgement is it? Fab does not ask you to prove consent was asked, it has a common sense feature built in that will assume those in pictures are over the age of 18 and have consented. As I previously stated, the rules are that you can have other people in your pictures as long as they cannot be identified, and this is not tailored towards any particular group. Whether you agree with it is irrelevant,whether you like it is irrelevant. If anything was to go nasty- ie revenge porn, you contact the police as fab can do fuck all about it really. I hope you are not being gender specific to who can post imagery on an adult based site, which pretty much encourages its users by rewarding them with more pictures for the users account and there is also different categories of 'vulgarity', you feel that you can say a man or woman(or couple) who have an action shot are just proving that they can have sex?- or are you just being gender specific? If you don't like action shots fine, no need to judge others as crass,vulgar nor sad. Yeah oakie doke You know as well as I do that most guys that have pics of them hanging outta some woman, do not have consent. " I don't really concern myself with what others do.Though if I see a couples profile where theres 4 female arses shown(I don't know if they are all on fab or consented), I just think they had a great night I rather than showoffs,vulgar or sad. Though, I'd still ask the question if it is more acceptable that women/couples have others in their pics that means they are excluded from the OPs criticism or given automatic approval. We can't have one group being criticized over another because of some might be doing something perceivably wrong in someone's opinion. Personally,I find quite a few of the comments in the thread quite opinionated and judgemental about what others should/shouldn't have on their profiles. Not exactly unheard of from the forums of course. | |||
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"We started off as singles. We both have pics of each other on our singles profiles. Those pics are part of our journey to where we are now, they are a snapshot of our memories. P" | |||
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"Even if sex occurs, posting pics online surely needs consent? If you post a pic of another on your profile, you follow the rules and have consent.Regardless of your gender or marital status. And how would you prove consent, were someone to turn nasty Action shots smack of "I feel the need to prove Ive had sex" Vulgar, crass and a little bit sad please dont assume that you are correct as some form of fact, whether you think it's vulgar,crass or sad. by your own statement one could say it's a bit vulgar that you have a shot of you partially unclothed as your avatar- why not just be clothed?- now that isn't a fair judgement is it? Fab does not ask you to prove consent was asked, it has a common sense feature built in that will assume those in pictures are over the age of 18 and have consented. As I previously stated, the rules are that you can have other people in your pictures as long as they cannot be identified, and this is not tailored towards any particular group. Whether you agree with it is irrelevant,whether you like it is irrelevant. If anything was to go nasty- ie revenge porn, you contact the police as fab can do fuck all about it really. I hope you are not being gender specific to who can post imagery on an adult based site, which pretty much encourages its users by rewarding them with more pictures for the users account and there is also different categories of 'vulgarity', you feel that you can say a man or woman(or couple) who have an action shot are just proving that they can have sex?- or are you just being gender specific? If you don't like action shots fine, no need to judge others as crass,vulgar nor sad. Yeah oakie doke You know as well as I do that most guys that have pics of them hanging outta some woman, do not have consent. I don't really concern myself with what others do.Though if I see a couples profile where theres 4 female arses shown(I don't know if they are all on fab or consented), I just think they had a great night I rather than showoffs,vulgar or sad. Though, I'd still ask the question if it is more acceptable that women/couples have others in their pics that means they are excluded from the OPs criticism or given automatic approval. We can't have one group being criticized over another because of some might be doing something perceivably wrong in someone's opinion. Personally,I find quite a few of the comments in the thread quite opinionated and judgemental about what others should/shouldn't have on their profiles. Not exactly unheard of from the forums of course. " I’m not at all judgemental about what people do as it doesn’t affect me but if I’m involved then yes I’m Queen judge and yes I would just delete straight away without even looking at anything else. May not bother other people, it bothers me | |||
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"I'm struggling to understand why men post images of ladies they have played with on their profile. Well done, you have scored? She's fit you're punching way above your category? Will other ladies and couples be impressed? Anyone have an idea, I don't? " If it's the guy with a partner and it's obvious he is the main subject of the pic it's totally understandable. What we find as totally disrespectful is when the only part of him (if any) is parts of fingers, a little of a leg, or the tip of his cock poking in from the edge. The actual subject of the pic is not him. | |||
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"I'm struggling to understand why men post images of ladies they have played with on their profile. Well done, you have scored? She's fit you're punching way above your category? Will other ladies and couples be impressed? Anyone have an idea, I don't? " Why worry what others do with their profile op, folk may offer an opinion why they have in reality the only person who could answer your question is the person whos profile it is.. have you asked them? Why do some couples have them, some single women in fact its likely some in every category has.. don't like them move on to a profile that does interest. Consent is very rarely mentioned about guys in other folks pictures needing consent. | |||
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"Have to say this is the same other way round) with some ladies on here and also quite a lot of couples have photos of others. These are all off putting to us. Mr2 I have a pic of me and a woman to show I'm bi and a pic of me and two men to show I enjoy group sex. I have the permission of the other people to post them. " Don't you think that being bi would show on your written part of your profile and also Group sex would show under you're likes/tastes. Also in your verifications. We prefer to see the person whose profile it is in the photos and not anyone else. Of course you are entitled to show any photo you like which we understand but everyone is different and can have their own preferences. Mr2 | |||
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"‘Look!!!!! I’ve had sex with someone who probably doesn’t know I’ve put their photo on the internet!!!!!!’ Exactly this It’s a very good way to advertise that you probably aren’t someone who respects boundaries! It’s also against the site rules I think" Yes it's really off putting | |||
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" Assumptions...........they make an ass out of u and me! So you offered to meet them with another man but you hadn't asked the other man about it? " lol........there you go again.....making assumptions......... Do you not know your friends? Do you not know what they are up for or would be happy to get involved in? Ok......i'll tell you how it went. I put up a status and a meet request for a specific day. Me looking for company for the afternoon / evening. Both the other parties in the scenario checked me out. I can see this, 'cos of the 'Who's looked at me' facility on your profile page. My friend then got in touch with me, via here - to say........."by the way, if you get any response - i'm always available to help out if anyone wants another". Not the first time we have shared group fun with this guy. He's a friend. Later on i messaged the couple to say something like "if you're up for it......me and my friend are also up for it...and by the way, you know him already etc......." At no time at all have my friend or I talked about that particular couple and discussed or compared notes or made arrangements to meet that specific couple. If, after a meet had been arranged and the subject of 'A. N. Other' had been discussed - and they were still up for it. And all parties were still up for it........then that would have been the time to make details known to all concerned. And..in this particular case - no-one would really have had the need to explain 'details' -' cos they all already knew each other! If they had not been up for it....then there would have been a message to my friend to say......."Sorry, but, not tonight........" Not every body has to swing like you. We are allowed to have our own flexibilities, preferences, scenarios or roles. Flexibility in approach. Relax............it's supposed to be fun. | |||
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" Assumptions...........they make an ass out of u and me! So you offered to meet them with another man but you hadn't asked the other man about it? lol........there you go again.....making assumptions......... Do you not know your friends? Do you not know what they are up for or would be happy to get involved in? Ok......i'll tell you how it went. I put up a status and a meet request for a specific day. Me looking for company for the afternoon / evening. Both the other parties in the scenario checked me out. I can see this, 'cos of the 'Who's looked at me' facility on your profile page. My friend then got in touch with me, via here - to say........."by the way, if you get any response - i'm always available to help out if anyone wants another". Not the first time we have shared group fun with this guy. He's a friend. Later on i messaged the couple to say something like "if you're up for it......me and my friend are also up for it...and by the way, you know him already etc......." At no time at all have my friend or I talked about that particular couple and discussed or compared notes or made arrangements to meet that specific couple. If, after a meet had been arranged and the subject of 'A. N. Other' had been discussed - and they were still up for it. And all parties were still up for it........then that would have been the time to make details known to all concerned. And..in this particular case - no-one would really have had the need to explain 'details' -' cos they all already knew each other! If they had not been up for it....then there would have been a message to my friend to say......."Sorry, but, not tonight........" Not every body has to swing like you. We are allowed to have our own flexibilities, preferences, scenarios or roles. Flexibility in approach. Relax............it's supposed to be fun. " It was just a question. No idea why you are so defensive. Guilty conscience is all yours. | |||
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"I'm struggling to understand why men post images of ladies they have played with on their profile. Well done, you have scored? She's fit you're punching way above your category? Will other ladies and couples be impressed? Anyone have an idea, I don't? Men don’t realise that prospective new women don’t like to see them “hanging out the back of someone else”. That’s Fab men for you. They don’t listen. " I do wonder if its the same in reverse. How men think/feel about women with the multiple cocks fucking them. | |||
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"‘Look!!!!! I’ve had sex with someone who probably doesn’t know I’ve put their photo on the internet!!!!!!’" You have someone's dick in your mouth in your pics lol | |||
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"Maybe its the same reason i have a guy on mine.. i like the pic . And yes he knows its there and likes it" | |||
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"I'm struggling to understand why men post images of ladies they have played with on their profile. Well done, you have scored? She's fit you're punching way above your category? Will other ladies and couples be impressed? Anyone have an idea, I don't? Men don’t realise that prospective new women don’t like to see them “hanging out the back of someone else”. That’s Fab men for you. They don’t listen. I do wonder if its the same in reverse. How men think/feel about women with the multiple cocks fucking them." the easy answer for me is nobody on fab is my property, they can fuck who they like.It wont put me off the person in particular,I won't jump to judgements and I wont get jealous. | |||
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"Maybe its the same reason i have a guy on mine.. i like the pic . And yes he knows its there and likes it" i need to report that image, outta jealousy xxxx | |||
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"I'm struggling to understand why men post images of ladies they have played with on their profile. Well done, you have scored? She's fit you're punching way above your category? Will other ladies and couples be impressed? Anyone have an idea, I don't? Men don’t realise that prospective new women don’t like to see them “hanging out the back of someone else”. That’s Fab men for you. They don’t listen. I do wonder if its the same in reverse. How men think/feel about women with the multiple cocks fucking them. the easy answer for me is nobody on fab is my property, they can fuck who they like.It wont put me off the person in particular,I won't jump to judgements and I wont get jealous." Of course everyone can do as they choose, we are not here to judge or get emotional over anything as irrelevant as fab. We are talking about pictures that's it...full stop. | |||
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"I'm struggling to understand why men post images of ladies they have played with on their profile. Well done, you have scored? She's fit you're punching way above your category? Will other ladies and couples be impressed? Anyone have an idea, I don't? Men don’t realise that prospective new women don’t like to see them “hanging out the back of someone else”. That’s Fab men for you. They don’t listen. I do wonder if its the same in reverse. How men think/feel about women with the multiple cocks fucking them. the easy answer for me is nobody on fab is my property, they can fuck who they like.It wont put me off the person in particular,I won't jump to judgements and I wont get jealous. Of course everyone can do as they choose, we are not here to judge or get emotional over anything as irrelevant as fab. We are talking about pictures that's it...full stop." words of wisdom | |||
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"Guilty! Go on, flog me! (She knows, though, she’s on Fab too and agreed, I’ll send the disclaimer to whoever asks) They’re not bad though. Would still put me off personally as it’s a single profile but I’m talking about the really explicit ones. " The blue one is actually my most fabbed pic. Go figure! | |||
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"Guilty! Go on, flog me! (She knows, though, she’s on Fab too and agreed, I’ll send the disclaimer to whoever asks) They’re not bad though. Would still put me off personally as it’s a single profile but I’m talking about the really explicit ones. The blue one is actually my most fabbed pic. Go figure! " It is a very sexy pic to be fair. Still a single profile though | |||
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"Guilty! Go on, flog me! (She knows, though, she’s on Fab too and agreed, I’ll send the disclaimer to whoever asks) They’re not bad though. Would still put me off personally as it’s a single profile but I’m talking about the really explicit ones. The blue one is actually my most fabbed pic. Go figure! It is a very sexy pic to be fair. Still a single profile though " Guys don't listen on fab.....most women are not the slightest bit interested in these pictures and it's a turn Off what dont they get. | |||
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"Guilty! Go on, flog me! (She knows, though, she’s on Fab too and agreed, I’ll send the disclaimer to whoever asks) They’re not bad though. Would still put me off personally as it’s a single profile but I’m talking about the really explicit ones. The blue one is actually my most fabbed pic. Go figure! It is a very sexy pic to be fair. Still a single profile though Guys don't listen on fab.....most women are not the slightest bit interested in these pictures and it's a turn Off what dont they get." Everyone’s different I guess. I just use it as a filter. | |||
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"Guilty! Go on, flog me! (She knows, though, she’s on Fab too and agreed, I’ll send the disclaimer to whoever asks) They’re not bad though. Would still put me off personally as it’s a single profile but I’m talking about the really explicit ones. The blue one is actually my most fabbed pic. Go figure! It is a very sexy pic to be fair. Still a single profile though Guys don't listen on fab.....most women are not the slightest bit interested in these pictures and it's a turn Off what dont they get. Everyone’s different I guess. I just use it as a filter. " | |||
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"Guilty! Go on, flog me! (She knows, though, she’s on Fab too and agreed, I’ll send the disclaimer to whoever asks) They’re not bad though. Would still put me off personally as it’s a single profile but I’m talking about the really explicit ones. The blue one is actually my most fabbed pic. Go figure! It is a very sexy pic to be fair. Still a single profile though Guys don't listen on fab.....most women are not the slightest bit interested in these pictures and it's a turn Off what dont they get." Maybe they don't post them to turn you on? Just a thought. | |||
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"Guilty! Go on, flog me! (She knows, though, she’s on Fab too and agreed, I’ll send the disclaimer to whoever asks) They’re not bad though. Would still put me off personally as it’s a single profile but I’m talking about the really explicit ones. The blue one is actually my most fabbed pic. Go figure! It is a very sexy pic to be fair. Still a single profile though " Well, I admit. I meet women once in a blue moon! | |||
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"Guilty! Go on, flog me! (She knows, though, she’s on Fab too and agreed, I’ll send the disclaimer to whoever asks) They’re not bad though. Would still put me off personally as it’s a single profile but I’m talking about the really explicit ones. The blue one is actually my most fabbed pic. Go figure! It is a very sexy pic to be fair. Still a single profile though Guys don't listen on fab.....most women are not the slightest bit interested in these pictures and it's a turn Off what dont they get. Maybe they don't post them to turn you on? Just a thought. " Exactly! My experience is that you can’t please everyone, so be yourself and you’re more likely to attract like-minded people. | |||
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"Guilty! Go on, flog me! (She knows, though, she’s on Fab too and agreed, I’ll send the disclaimer to whoever asks) They’re not bad though. Would still put me off personally as it’s a single profile but I’m talking about the really explicit ones. The blue one is actually my most fabbed pic. Go figure! It is a very sexy pic to be fair. Still a single profile though Guys don't listen on fab.....most women are not the slightest bit interested in these pictures and it's a turn Off what dont they get. Maybe they don't post them to turn you on? Just a thought. " I wasnt referring to just myself but most women on the post are saying this. Thank god they're not it's just another filter. Target your own audience isn't that what they say. | |||
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"Guilty! Go on, flog me! (She knows, though, she’s on Fab too and agreed, I’ll send the disclaimer to whoever asks) They’re not bad though. Would still put me off personally as it’s a single profile but I’m talking about the really explicit ones. The blue one is actually my most fabbed pic. Go figure! It is a very sexy pic to be fair. Still a single profile though Guys don't listen on fab.....most women are not the slightest bit interested in these pictures and it's a turn Off what dont they get. Maybe they don't post them to turn you on? Just a thought. I wasnt referring to just myself but most women on the post are saying this. Thank god they're not it's just another filter. Target your own audience isn't that what they say." I wasn't referring to just you. But the assumption was that they post for your (collective) benefit when actually they might just be pleasing themselves. | |||
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"Guilty! Go on, flog me! (She knows, though, she’s on Fab too and agreed, I’ll send the disclaimer to whoever asks) They’re not bad though. Would still put me off personally as it’s a single profile but I’m talking about the really explicit ones. The blue one is actually my most fabbed pic. Go figure! It is a very sexy pic to be fair. Still a single profile though Guys don't listen on fab.....most women are not the slightest bit interested in these pictures and it's a turn Off what dont they get. Maybe they don't post them to turn you on? Just a thought. Exactly! My experience is that you can’t please everyone, so be yourself and you’re more likely to attract like-minded people." I do agree with that. | |||
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"Guilty! Go on, flog me! (She knows, though, she’s on Fab too and agreed, I’ll send the disclaimer to whoever asks) They’re not bad though. Would still put me off personally as it’s a single profile but I’m talking about the really explicit ones. The blue one is actually my most fabbed pic. Go figure! It is a very sexy pic to be fair. Still a single profile though Guys don't listen on fab.....most women are not the slightest bit interested in these pictures and it's a turn Off what dont they get. Maybe they don't post them to turn you on? Just a thought. I wasnt referring to just myself but most women on the post are saying this. Thank god they're not it's just another filter. Target your own audience isn't that what they say. I wasn't referring to just you. But the assumption was that they post for your (collective) benefit when actually they might just be pleasing themselves. " true | |||
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" the easy answer for me is nobody on fab is my property, they can fuck who they like.It wont put me off the person in particular,I won't jump to judgements and I wont get jealous." This ???? The same dislike doesn’t seem to work in reverse - no-one seems bothered by females with pics of penetration happening. Maybe it’s a case of ‘it’s only a bloke’ - we don’t need to worry. Here was me thinking the FAB swinging community was open minded and had broader outlooks than most - maybe not though. | |||
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"I'm struggling to understand why men post images of ladies they have played with on their profile. Well done, you have scored? She's fit you're punching way above your category? Will other ladies and couples be impressed? Anyone have an idea, I don't? " I've seen plenty of single women's profiles that have a bloke hanging out of one orifice or another. It's not limited to blokes profiles..... | |||
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" the easy answer for me is nobody on fab is my property, they can fuck who they like.It wont put me off the person in particular,I won't jump to judgements and I wont get jealous. This ???? The same dislike doesn’t seem to work in reverse - no-one seems bothered by females with pics of penetration happening. *** Maybe it’s a case of ‘it’s only a bloke’ - we don’t need to worry. *** Here was me thinking the FAB swinging community was open minded and had broader outlooks than most - maybe not though. " *** What do you mean? Don't need to worry about a man but they would worry about a woman? | |||
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"I don't allow pics to be taken during a meet...what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas as they say!" You mean Vegass, don’t you? | |||
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"I don't allow pics to be taken during a meet...what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas as they say! You mean Vegass, don’t you?" ...or Vage | |||
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"Well I guess people aren't going to like a fair few of our pics, or some of those on Muses single profile, or any of the profile of meet we've had where people have specifically asked me to take photos during play - heaven forbid people might want a nice photo or 2 to remember what a great time everyone had, and who knows maybe they might even want to share it on their profile, perhaps they should reconsider just in case some people on a forum might add 2+2 and arrive at 101 Believe it or not, not everyone is nefariously sharing photos of unaware / non-consenting third parties. Honestly its like reading the comments section of a Daily Mail article on here some days" You have some pretty good pics! I particularly liked 28/08/17 the last one! | |||
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"Well I guess people aren't going to like a fair few of our pics, or some of those on Muses single profile, or any of the profile of meet we've had where people have specifically asked me to take photos during play - heaven forbid people might want a nice photo or 2 to remember what a great time everyone had, and who knows maybe they might even want to share it on their profile, perhaps they should reconsider just in case some people on a forum might add 2+2 and arrive at 101 Believe it or not, not everyone is nefariously sharing photos of unaware / non-consenting third parties. Honestly its like reading the comments section of a Daily Mail article on here some days" I think it's only a problem when they only show their meet with just the tip of their cock in the picture - nothing on the owner of the profile themselves. | |||
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"Stop being the voice of reason Are you talking to me? " I so read that in a Robert de Niro voice | |||
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"I think a few people need to go back and look through their own pictures before commenting, as there are a few on here that say it is an instant block and then have photos with others in. Hoisted by your own petard I believe is the common phrase for this" Ooh I'm going back to check them all | |||
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"Thank goodness we all different and do things our own way. There is no right or wrong to this, it simply boils down to preference. No biggy " Absolutely, we all have our own approach to Fab and manage our profiles the way we see fit. What bugs me is the need to point the finger and shame when it’s so easy to simply scroll pass the profiles we don’t like. Live and let live! | |||
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"Well I guess people aren't going to like a fair few of our pics, or some of those on Muses single profile, or any of the profile of meet we've had where people have specifically asked me to take photos during play - heaven forbid people might want a nice photo or 2 to remember what a great time everyone had, and who knows maybe they might even want to share it on their profile, perhaps they should reconsider just in case some people on a forum might add 2+2 and arrive at 101 Believe it or not, not everyone is nefariously sharing photos of unaware / non-consenting third parties. Honestly its like reading the comments section of a Daily Mail article on here some days You have some pretty good pics! I particularly liked 28/08/17 the last one!" Cheers mate | |||
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"I think a few people need to go back and look through their own pictures before commenting, as there are a few on here that say it is an instant block and then have photos with others in. Hoisted by your own petard I believe is the common phrase for this Don't you just love it when that happens. Too keen to critisise, too keen to be holier than though, too keen to be "better" than everyone else. " It's almost like some folk are just sat waiting to pounce and express their indignation even though it may contradict a previous declaration of outrage... | |||
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"I think a few people need to go back and look through their own pictures before commenting, as there are a few on here that say it is an instant block and then have photos with others in. Hoisted by your own petard I believe is the common phrase for this Don't you just love it when that happens. Too keen to critisise, too keen to be holier than though, too keen to be "better" than everyone else. It's almost like some folk are just sat waiting to pounce and express their indignation even though it may contradict a previous declaration of outrage... I visualise them typing a post of outrage and indignation, long before the object of their indignation has even been posted. " | |||
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"I never understand why men are demonised so much on here when the things that are being complained about happen on couples/singles/LGBTQ’s profiles, I even have them on mine People run their profiles how they choose, it’s not for us to point out what people like or don’t like, thank fuck not everyone is trying themselves in knots to please everyone, be an individual, be your own people " Nailed it. | |||
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"I'm struggling to understand why men post images of ladies they have played with on their profile. Well done, you have scored? She's fit you're punching way above your category? Will other ladies and couples be impressed? Anyone have an idea, I don't? " Get a life!! | |||
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"Personally, I think that the rule about the profile owner being in the photos should be expanded to say that they should be "the main focus" of any photo. The idea that there is half a fingernail, or someone's left bollock being enough seems daft to me. Cal" | |||
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"Who really cares about your pissy views its a swinging site if someone wishes to show their photos what`s the problem. May be you should go back to reading the daily mail." I said I’m not a fan of those pics so I would probably not contact or be interested in a person with such on their profile. Same as profiles full of cock pics. I’m not telling people what they can and can’t put on their profile, just pointing out that they put me off a person. They can put off most women. | |||
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"I'm struggling to understand why men post images of ladies they have played with on their profile. Well done, you have scored? She's fit you're punching way above your category? Will other ladies and couples be impressed? Anyone have an idea, I don't? I've seen plenty of single women's profiles that have a bloke hanging out of one orifice or another. It's not limited to blokes profiles....." Men are visual. Most love to see that kind of stuff. I don’t think they would complain. | |||
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