FabSwingers.com forum: Vegans

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Does anyone find that most vegans have this underlying sense of superiority over everyone?

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *SAchickWoman
over a year ago

Hillside desolate

I don't know any vegans. Not that I know of anyway.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Does anyone find that most vegans have this underlying sense of superiority over everyone? "

Not really. I think meat eaters do though.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *eesideMan
over a year ago

margate sumwear by the sea

No cos in the end bacon will win and thay give up

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I find a lot of people have beef with vegans.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *uckOfTheBayMan
over a year ago

Mold

Underlying ?

They're usually the first to tell you all about it, constantly

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Does anyone find that most vegans have this underlying sense of superiority over everyone? "

Not met most of them but the ones I have are just normal folks who have a differet diet..

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No.

I find that people who eat meat complain more about vegans, than vegans mention ‘I’m vegan’.

I’ve known some vegans for years and I never would have known if we hadn’t gone out for dinner, or I hadn’t been asking them if they wanted something and they couldn’t.

#LeaveVegansAlone

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Does anyone find that most vegans have this underlying sense of superiority over everyone?

Not really. I think meat eaters do though."

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have nothing wrong or against vegans, in fact I think I have praise for them in being so persistent in their life choice.

What bugs me is being preached to about why being vegan is so amazing.

If there’s one thing I can’t stand, it’s being preached at.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *V-AliceTV/TS
over a year ago

Ayr

Do they? I just pity them their lack of bacon. As I do the Muslims and the Jews. It's their choice, on principle; but it has no effect on me.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I know a few... as much as it’s a little difficult eating out with them sometimes, you’d never know other than their farts

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *anejohnkent6263Couple
over a year ago

canterbury

pissed me off as well ...I don't lecture people about steak and chips etc

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *xperimentalistMan
over a year ago

East Yorkshire

"I don't know any vegans. Not that I know of anyway. "

If you knew any they would probably have let you know by now lol

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *eclanHMan
over a year ago

Liphook

It’s a stereotype. My experience has been the opposite. All the vegans I know a good, reasonable people.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Every one I’ve met seems to lord it up and condemn people for being anything but. Annoying when I’ve done a lot towards helping animals than most. Not eating cheese and eggs doesn’t make you a saint.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"It’s a stereotype. My experience has been the opposite. All the vegans I know a good, reasonable people."

That’s good to know, wish I’d met one! Not trying to stereotype. They’re doing that all by themselves from the ones I’ve met

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

pissed me off as well ...I don't lecture people about steak and chips etc"

Right?! I don’t tell Vegans what they’re missing out on. I don’t mind vegan food once in a while but I’m not going to make whole life changes because of a leaflet, tv show or some twat walking around in a hessian sack for trousers telling me I’m rotting the planet.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

pissed me off as well ...I don't lecture people about steak and chips etc"

Yep!

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I have nothing wrong or against vegans, in fact I think I have praise for them in being so persistent in their life choice.

What bugs me is being preached to about why being vegan is so amazing.

If there’s one thing I can’t stand, it’s being preached at. "

I hear ya!

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *eclanHMan
over a year ago

Liphook

"No.

I find that people who eat meat complain more about vegans, than vegans mention ‘I’m vegan’.

I’ve known some vegans for years and I never would have known if we hadn’t gone out for dinner, or I hadn’t been asking them if they wanted something and they couldn’t.

#LeaveVegansAlone"

This is so true. I hear so much more bros complaining about vegans than the supposed self-righteous vegans.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *nderIwonder.Man
over a year ago

2nd City

how do you know if someone is vegan? .. . they will tell you in the first 5 minutes of meeting them haha

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Most people that claim to be vegan aren't actually vegan. Being vegan is more than what you eat.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It’s a stereotype. My experience has been the opposite. All the vegans I know a good, reasonable people.

That’s good to know, wish I’d met one! Not trying to stereotype. They’re doing that all by themselves from the ones I’ve met"

You're not trying very hard.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"No.

I find that people who eat meat complain more about vegans, than vegans mention ‘I’m vegan’.

I’ve known some vegans for years and I never would have known if we hadn’t gone out for dinner, or I hadn’t been asking them if they wanted something and they couldn’t.

#LeaveVegansAlone"

This.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I find a lot of people have beef with vegans."
in not letting this comment pass without giving it the credit it deserves.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"how do you know if someone is vegan? .. . they will tell you in the first 5 minutes of meeting them haha"

How can you tell a meat eater? They are usually slagging off the vegans.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"It’s a stereotype. My experience has been the opposite. All the vegans I know a good, reasonable people.

That’s good to know, wish I’d met one! Not trying to stereotype. They’re doing that all by themselves from the ones I’ve met

You're not trying very hard."

Well I don live in Shrewsbury, so I have to try a lot harder than you.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *nderIwonder.Man
over a year ago

2nd City

it's what you don't eat

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"how do you know if someone is vegan? .. . they will tell you in the first 5 minutes of meeting them haha"

Funny joke!

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"how do you know if someone is vegan? .. . they will tell you in the first 5 minutes of meeting them haha

How can you tell a meat eater? They are usually slagging off the vegans."

Only when provoked

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *nderIwonder.Man
over a year ago

2nd City

"how do you know if someone is vegan? .. . they will tell you in the first 5 minutes of meeting them haha

How can you tell a meat eater? They are usually slagging off the vegans."

lmao

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I find a lot of people have beef with vegans. in not letting this comment pass without giving it the credit it deserves.

Sorry yes it was great :D

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *eclanHMan
over a year ago

Liphook

"Most people that claim to be vegan aren't actually vegan. Being vegan is more than what you eat. "

Yours is a perfect case of a No-True Scotsman fallacy

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I find a lot of people have beef with vegans. in not letting this comment pass without giving it the credit it deserves.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"how do you know if someone is vegan? .. . they will tell you in the first 5 minutes of meeting them haha

How can you tell a meat eater? They are usually slagging off the vegans.

Only when provoked"

Who's provoking you?

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"It’s a stereotype. My experience has been the opposite. All the vegans I know a good, reasonable people.

That’s good to know, wish I’d met one! Not trying to stereotype. They’re doing that all by themselves from the ones I’ve met"

Just a thought, maybe it's how you come across to them if this thread is anything to go by?

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nothing wrong with vegans....

But I couldn't eat a full one

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *hetalkingstoveMan
over a year ago

London

"Does anyone find that most vegans have this underlying sense of superiority over everyone? "

I hear this exact opinion far more than I hear from any actual vegans.

So I reckon this is just a stereotype used in order to give non-vegans a sense of superiority. Ironic, or somethin4.jkim

Those last characters thanks to my cat walking on the keyboard. He's definitely not a vegan.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *SAchickWoman
over a year ago

Hillside desolate

[Removed by poster at 05/06/19 19:23:55]

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *hetalkingstoveMan
over a year ago

London

"how do you know if someone is vegan? .. . they will tell you in the first 5 minutes of meeting them haha"

That was funny the first time I heard it, in 1992.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Apologies for lowering the tone, but I do occasionally wonder whether or not it’s vegan to swallow cum...

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"It’s a stereotype. My experience has been the opposite. All the vegans I know a good, reasonable people.

That’s good to know, wish I’d met one! Not trying to stereotype. They’re doing that all by themselves from the ones I’ve met

Just a thought, maybe it's how you come across to them if this thread is anything to go by? "

Nothing to do with this thread but thanks

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Does anyone find that most vegans have this underlying sense of superiority over everyone? "

I’ve never had any beef with them.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *innie The MinxWoman
over a year ago

Under the Duvet

"Does anyone find that most vegans have this underlying sense of superiority over everyone? "

I love vegans

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *elma and ShaggyCouple
over a year ago

Bedworth

A former work colleague went vegan a couple of years ago, since then I’ve hidden all her posts on Facebook as they really get on my nerves. It’s all really ott about how bad meat eaters are and how cruel it is etc, I got sick of seeing it. I didn’t remove her as a friend because I still want to stay in touch with her, just couldn’t stand the vegan propaganda any longer.

I have a mlm marketing hun friend the same, the crap he constantly posted winds me up so I blocked all the posts but kept him on friends list as he’s still a friend I want to keep in touch with

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *loswingersCouple
over a year ago

Gloucester

"Does anyone find that most vegans have this underlying sense of superiority over everyone? "

You mean like those over zealous left wing tree huggers that are campaigning against Trump ?

Or those who think it’s great to take their plastic containers and fill them up at the shop that dispenses the goods from a plastic container to save the planet ?

That kind of self righteousness ?

If so , yes I do

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *innie The MinxWoman
over a year ago

Under the Duvet

I don't think vegans are self righteous.

I do think they make some people uncomfortable.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *an_LexaCouple
over a year ago

Sunderland

"Apologies for lowering the tone, but I do occasionally wonder whether or not it’s vegan to swallow cum..."

How ethically is it farmed and harvested?

What kind of conditions are you being kept in?

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Does anyone find that most vegans have this underlying sense of superiority over everyone?

You mean like those over zealous left wing tree huggers that are campaigning against Trump ?

Or those who think it’s great to take their plastic containers and fill them up at the shop that dispenses the goods from a plastic container to save the planet ?

That kind of self righteousness ?

If so , yes I do

Exactly, not necessarily all those things, but I’m never in the mood to hear it, I’ve woeked a lot in saving animals and rescue, I don’t need to be criticised or given a lecture just because someone thinks not eating eggs or drinking milk means they have saved the world

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nah...that's some people, not vegans.

Maybe some vegans, not all.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Nah...that's some people, not vegans.

Maybe some vegans, not all. "

Didn’t say all, but a bloody lot of them!

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No, not really.

The girl I sit next to in work is vegan, she’s lovely.

As far as I’m aware she’s the only vegan I know

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *wholeLotOfRosieWoman
over a year ago

Pontypridd

"Does anyone find that most vegans have this underlying sense of superiority over everyone? "

Nope. But I think some meat eaters feel the need to undermine them because they feel defensive about their own choices.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Does anyone find that most vegans have this underlying sense of superiority over everyone?

Nope. But I think some meat eaters feel the need to undermine them because they feel defensive about their own choices. "

Not me but you could be right

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ranimallxl5Man
over a year ago

Winchester

Aren't most humans omnivores

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *eclanHMan
over a year ago

Liphook

"Does anyone find that most vegans have this underlying sense of superiority over everyone?

Nope. But I think some meat eaters feel the need to undermine them because they feel defensive about their own choices. "

Preach!

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Does anyone find that most vegans have this underlying sense of superiority over everyone?

Nope. But I think some meat eaters feel the need to undermine them because they feel defensive about their own choices. "

This. I know a number of vegans and non of them have ever lectured me about eating meat.

As this thread proves, you don't need to be a vegan to have a superior attitude about diets

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

There’s no superiority.. people can eat or not eat what they want

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Being vegan is a huge missed steak...

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Does anyone find that most vegans have this underlying sense of superiority over everyone?

Nope. But I think some meat eaters feel the need to undermine them because they feel defensive about their own choices. "

Yep I agree with this.

When I was a fully fledged non-preaching vegetarian I was constantly being undermined by certain meat eaters who couldn’t seem to handle that I didn’t want to eat meat.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Does anyone find that most vegans have this underlying sense of superiority over everyone?

Nope. But I think some meat eaters feel the need to undermine them because they feel defensive about their own choices. "

They feel threatened and insecure because the fact is they don't have to kill the animal themselves and they know it happens behind locked doors. So they believe the vegans are trying to take over and make them eat plants, when they're not. If meat eaters had to kill the animal themselves they probably would go vegi.

Vegan food is just like any other food category really.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Does anyone find that most vegans have this underlying sense of superiority over everyone?

Nope. But I think some meat eaters feel the need to undermine them because they feel defensive about their own choices.

I’ve trapped killed and butchered animals to eat, so not the case, I made sure I did for that reason, too many people at desensitised to what they’re eating!

Vegan food is just like any other food category really.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Does anyone find that most vegans have this underlying sense of superiority over everyone?

Nope. But I think some meat eaters feel the need to undermine them because they feel defensive about their own choices.

I’ve trapped killed and butchered animals to eat, so not the case, I made sure I did for that reason, too many people at desensitised to what they’re eating!

Vegan food is just like any other food category really.

Your point being?

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Does anyone find that most vegans have this underlying sense of superiority over everyone?

Nope. But I think some meat eaters feel the need to undermine them because they feel defensive about their own choices.

I’ve trapped killed and butchered animals to eat, so not the case, I made sure I did for that reason, too many people at desensitised to what they’re eating!

Vegan food is just like any other food category really.

Your point being?"

That not all meat eaters feel threatened and insecure about what they eat. And maybe in England it’s very much the case that people can’t and don’t ever go through the process that takes place before it ends up on their plate. But England’s a very small place

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Does anyone find that most vegans have this underlying sense of superiority over everyone?

Nope. But I think some meat eaters feel the need to undermine them because they feel defensive about their own choices.

I’ve trapped killed and butchered animals to eat, so not the case, I made sure I did for that reason, too many people at desensitised to what they’re eating!

Vegan food is just like any other food category really.

Your point being?

Size hasn't anything to do with it. There was a time where the housewife would have to butcher, slit throats and break necks, just to put ome meat on the table to feed the family. It's just now all done processing plants and not socialy acceptable to be seen butchering ourselves.

Meat eater should leave Vegans alone. It's just a lifestyle choice, to some it's a faith group.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

bash this group bash that group jeeze don't people have there own lives to get on with rather than bully everyone else who don't fit there idea's

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"bash this group bash that group jeeze don't people have there own lives to get on with rather than bully everyone else who don't fit there idea's"

It will be the insect eaters next. Yummy.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No - and saying so is largely bandwagoning

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Does anyone find that most vegans have this underlying sense of superiority over everyone?

Nope. But I think some meat eaters feel the need to undermine them because they feel defensive about their own choices.

I’ve trapped killed and butchered animals to eat, so not the case, I made sure I did for that reason, too many people at desensitised to what they’re eating!

Vegan food is just like any other food category really.

Your point being?

Meat eater should leave Vegans alone. It's just a lifestyle choice, to some it's a faith group.

Just as much as vegans should leave meat eaters alone, you don’t need to try and educate me about vegans then follow on to try and educate me about the history of meat eaters....

This is exactly what I’m fucking talking about!!!!

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Does anyone find that most vegans have this underlying sense of superiority over everyone? "

Some don't, but a lot do.

Jokes on them, because all this save the planet talk they make is a bit of a bad argument, because vehicle and industry pollution far far exceeds pollution created by the meat industry

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Does anyone find that most vegans have this underlying sense of superiority over everyone? "

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Vegans, vegetarians cyclists. .often argue from a moral high ground. But damage to the environment is very complex. Farming does lots of harm regardless of meat. Cyclists use man-made fibres and rubber etc.

Make your choice but make the world better by example rather than acting superior.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No I don't feel that the vegans I know act superior.

But a couple of young women I work with who are faddy vegans are using it to reduce calories and already have eating disorders.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Is it you thinking/feeling that the vegans you know act superior? Or are you feeling this from the media's interpretation of vegans?

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *abs..Woman
over a year ago

Having a superiority complex is not limited to vegans in my experience

they are just people like the rest of us after all.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Having a superiority complex is not limited to vegans in my experience

they are just people like the rest of us after all. "

Or does the OP have an inferiority complex?

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is it you thinking/feeling that the vegans you know act superior? Or are you feeling this from the media's interpretation of vegans? "

From experience of various people who make lifestyle choices.

Of course veganism is on the rise and I'm ok with that. I often prefer the veg to the meat.

I hate animal cruelty but we all have major changes to make to stop climate change. Starting with all living a simpler life and consuming less.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Is it you thinking/feeling that the vegans you know act superior? Or are you feeling this from the media's interpretation of vegans? "

It’s me experiencing first hand them preaching like I don’t already know what’s going on in the world, not all of them, but you get the odd one, more so than any other party that will just batter you with everything you’re doing wrong!

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Many of them claim to love animals so much, they don’t care about eating their food!

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Having a superiority complex is not limited to vegans in my experience

they are just people like the rest of us after all.

Or does the OP have an inferiority complex?

Lol

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is it you thinking/feeling that the vegans you know act superior? Or are you feeling this from the media's interpretation of vegans?

From experience of various people who make lifestyle choices.

Of course veganism is on the rise and I'm ok with that. I often prefer the veg to the meat.

I hate animal cruelty but we all have major changes to make to stop climate change. Starting with all living a simpler life and consuming less."

So you know superior acting vegans?

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is it you thinking/feeling that the vegans you know act superior? Or are you feeling this from the media's interpretation of vegans?

You must have had bad luck! I know lots of vegans and not one of them will talk about their views unless literally pressed into it!

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Is it you thinking/feeling that the vegans you know act superior? Or are you feeling this from the media's interpretation of vegans?

You must have had bad luck! I know lots of vegans and not one of them will talk about their views unless literally pressed into it! "

All the vegans I know are great.. it’s the ones I don’t know that somehow manage to piss me off.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What is the fascination with vegans..

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What is the fascination with vegans..

I think most of us know ( even if its deep down ) that farming and killing animals for meat is wrong.

But we ignore the suffering of these poor creatures and buy it in pretty packaging because it tastes good.

Lashing out at vegans is a form of guilt!

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *hips n FursMan
over a year ago

Huddersfield

The vegans I know,who have been vegan for 30+ years never mention it. It tends to be the new converts I've met that seem to bang on about it. End of the day it's each to there own.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What is the fascination with vegans..

I think most of us know ( even if its deep down ) that farming and killing animals for meat is wrong.

But we ignore the suffering of these poor creatures and buy it in pretty packaging because it tastes good.

Lashing out at vegans is a form of guilt!"

Farming crops kills and displaces animals. Feel guilty?

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ibblingnewtWoman
over a year ago

by the sea

Well they are superior, they are generally far more healthier and are protecting this world as best as they can, they ultimately do the very best to stop animal cruelty and deforestation, we should all bow to those hero’s

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well they are superior, they are generally far more healthier and are protecting this world as best as they can, they ultimately do the very best to stop animal cruelty and deforestation, we should all bow to those hero’s "

Phurghh!

Healthier not proven.

Protecting the world -how? I'm sure the orangutans would have something to say here.

Cruelty - growing crops kills billions of insects, rodents, birds or are we just interested in cute and cuddly.

Bow - good grief!

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"What is the fascination with vegans..

I think most of us know ( even if its deep down ) that farming and killing animals for meat is wrong.

But we ignore the suffering of these poor creatures and buy it in pretty packaging because it tastes good.

Lashing out at vegans is a form of guilt!

Farming crops kills and displaces animals. Feel guilty?"

Amen

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"The vegans I know,who have been vegan for 30+ years never mention it. It tends to be the new converts I've met that seem to bang on about it. End of the day it's each to there own."

The one that made me post this thread became vegan 8 years ago at the age of 45, this means they have eaten meat for more years than I have been alive. yet I’m the scum of the world because I still do... don’t need the preachy bullshit

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What is the fascination with vegans..

Anyone that does things differently from the norm, is threatening

Safety in numbers and all that

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm Vegan. I don't think it makes me better than anyone and I don't advertise it...But I am proud of it.

I do find I get a lot of stick for it though. People seem to think that because they eat meat and most people do, that gives them the right to belittle people that don't.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I'm Vegan. I don't think it makes me better than anyone and I don't advertise it...But I am proud of it.

I do find I get a lot of stick for it though. People seem to think that because they eat meat and most people do, that gives them the right to belittle people that don't. "

Not trying to belittle anyone here! And so you should be proud of it

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *eakcoupleCouple
over a year ago

peak district

The best view of this - very funny but very, very true - is a Youtube video by a Californian guy who calls himself Super Spiritual, "If meat eaters behaved like vegans."

Eat what you like and let everyone else eat what they want. If you're happy being vegan, puny and vitamin deficient, well, good for you!

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *uciyassMan
over a year ago

sheffield

Don’t vegans choose not to eat any animal derived product? Does that mean no cock. I know childish but I had to

Respect you lot by the way. It’s the vegetarians that rile me

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What is the fascination with vegans..

I think most of us know ( even if its deep down ) that farming and killing animals for meat is wrong.

But we ignore the suffering of these poor creatures and buy it in pretty packaging because it tastes good.

Lashing out at vegans is a form of guilt!

Farming crops kills and displaces animals. Feel guilty?"

I'm not a vegan - calm down

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *tew008Man
over a year ago

edinburgh

I get ripped a lot for it. Probably because I apparently look like I should be a meat eater

Still my eggs and honey though so not a vegan really. Though most aren’t as animal parts are used everywhere.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I get ripped a lot for it. Probably because I apparently look like I should be a meat eater

Still my eggs and honey though so not a vegan really. Though most aren’t as animal parts are used everywhere."

I still eat eggs because my friend has chickens so she gives me them and I don't feel guilty as I know those are some happy, free roaming chickens!...Not sure I could cope without eggs!

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *adame 2SwordsWoman
over a year ago

Victoria, London

Don't think I know of any vegans, maybe the odd vegetarian. I know a muscle gym bunny who eats about 6 meals a day of chicken, rice and beans. He preaches lots, is obsessed by food, and frankly doesn't seem to have 'fun'. Everything is about reps and weights etc. I say bollocks and still order the food I want, and wait for the bollocking

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *tew008Man
over a year ago

edinburgh

"I get ripped a lot for it. Probably because I apparently look like I should be a meat eater

Still my eggs and honey though so not a vegan really. Though most aren’t as animal parts are used everywhere.

I still eat eggs because my friend has chickens so she gives me them and I don't feel guilty as I know those are some happy, free roaming chickens!...Not sure I could cope without eggs!"

Yup my chickens also thinking about quail. Hives are next to one of my offices so help for honey

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ucy LewdWoman
over a year ago

North Oxfordshire

I feel superior about people for reasons other than my veganism.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *opsy RogersWoman
over a year ago

London

You want to save the planet with your dietary choices? Then stop eating anything imported. Stop eating so damn much.

Stop finding excuses to eat fast food and eat real food.

Eat local and get real about farming methods for animals and crops.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You want to save the planet with your dietary choices? Then stop eating anything imported. Stop eating so damn much.

Stop finding excuses to eat fast food and eat real food.

Eat local and get real about farming methods for animals and crops. "

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ibblingnewtWoman
over a year ago

by the sea

"I feel superior about people for reasons other than my veganism."

Lol I do too

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ucy LewdWoman
over a year ago

North Oxfordshire

"You want to save the planet with your dietary choices? Then stop eating anything imported. Stop eating so damn much.

Stop finding excuses to eat fast food and eat real food.

Eat local and get real about farming methods for animals and crops. "

It’s more about consent for me. Animals can’t consent to me harming them and eating them. Therefore I’m not ok with it.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *opsy RogersWoman
over a year ago

London

"You want to save the planet with your dietary choices? Then stop eating anything imported. Stop eating so damn much.

Stop finding excuses to eat fast food and eat real food.

Eat local and get real about farming methods for animals and crops.

It’s more about consent for me. Animals can’t consent to me harming them and eating them. Therefore I’m not ok with it."

Don’t kid yourself that eating a vegan diet doesn’t involve killing animals, it does.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *tew008Man
over a year ago

edinburgh

"You want to save the planet with your dietary choices? Then stop eating anything imported. Stop eating so damn much.

Stop finding excuses to eat fast food and eat real food.

Eat local and get real about farming methods for animals and crops.

It’s more about consent for me. Animals can’t consent to me harming them and eating them. Therefore I’m not ok with it.

Don’t kid yourself that eating a vegan diet doesn’t involve killing animals, it does."

Still a more responsible diet and the lesser of two evils, so to speak.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ibblingnewtWoman
over a year ago

by the sea

Phurghh!

Healthier not proven.

Protecting the world -how? I'm sure the orangutans would have something to say here.

Cruelty - growing crops kills billions of insects, rodents, birds or are we just interested in cute and cuddly.

Bow - good grief!"

You obviously haven’t really found out much about the food we eat

For every lb of meat it takes between 15-20 lbs of vegetable to produce it, farming is primarily done to feed animals and that’s approximately 80% of the worlds fields

All that is currently on the rise as humans are consuming huge amounts of rainforest for farming, that cases devastation of the planet and the natural ozone of the planet will be affected if it doesn’t stop, in layman’s terms It means we are fucking ourselves over

Stop farming animals means less food is needed to be grown so just food for humans and rainforests are left alone

I just wish I could be a vegan, tbh meat doesn’t taste as good as it used to anyway but we are just so set in our ways

So I’d still bow to the vegans they really are the ones taking care of this world by doing this personal choice and in future we probably will all be anyway

Regarding cruelty you really should look online and see what life is like for animals that are farmed

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ucy LewdWoman
over a year ago

North Oxfordshire

"You want to save the planet with your dietary choices? Then stop eating anything imported. Stop eating so damn much.

Stop finding excuses to eat fast food and eat real food.

Eat local and get real about farming methods for animals and crops.

It’s more about consent for me. Animals can’t consent to me harming them and eating them. Therefore I’m not ok with it.

Don’t kid yourself that eating a vegan diet doesn’t involve killing animals, it does."

Well, I try and harm as few animals as possible.

I'm an intelligent person who realises I can't live a perfect life. But I'm not going to eat or use animal products just because someone on the internet thinks it's pointless.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *rontier PsychiatristMan
over a year ago

Coventry

There's a difference between being a vegan and being a dick. If you've been lectured about your diet or got a scene of superiority I would suggest the cause is more to do with the later and the former.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *anejohnkent6263Couple
over a year ago

canterbury

Another minority trying to rule majority x

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not so! Eat lots of imported food stuff plus either have to eat fortified foods or have vit b12 injections ... vegetarians are healthy because we're omnivores not vegans (the animal equivalent to a vegetarian)

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ustme34Man
over a year ago

Bradford

"No.

I find that people who eat meat complain more about vegans, than vegans mention ‘I’m vegan’.

I’ve known some vegans for years and I never would have known if we hadn’t gone out for dinner, or I hadn’t been asking them if they wanted something and they couldn’t.

#LeaveVegansAlone"

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I bet most vegans still drive cars, catch planes, use central heating, use plastic and have babies .

Saving the planet my arse.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ok we stopped eating meat. All of us.

The livestock would need to be culled surely?

I mean who is going to keep a herd of cattle for the sake of it?

And all those future animals not born?

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *anejohnkent6263Couple
over a year ago

canterbury

My kebab shop might close ..........nooooooooooo

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Personally I'm vegan more because when I tried it, it got rid of my IBS, acne and I lost weight.

I wouldn't claim I'm saving the planet and I didn't really decide to do it for moral reasons. I did however always feel guilt about eating animal products so its felt like a kind of weight off my shoulders now.

I do slip up from time to time, usually when I'm d*unk!

I don't lecture anyone unless they start giving me shit for it. I do tell people though if it comes up in conversation as it takes effort and I'm proud of myself for achieving my goals.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"My kebab shop might close ..........nooooooooooo"

I'm sure you could find another donar...

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Personally I'm vegan more because when I tried it, it got rid of my IBS, acne and I lost weight.

I do slip up from time to time, usually when I'm d*unk!

I don't lecture anyone unless they start giving me shit for it. I do tell people though if it comes up in conversation as it takes effort and I'm proud of myself for achieving my goals."

Need more vegans like you :D

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Personally I'm vegan more because when I tried it, it got rid of my IBS, acne and I lost weight.

I do slip up from time to time, usually when I'm d*unk!

I don't lecture anyone unless they start giving me shit for it. I do tell people though if it comes up in conversation as it takes effort and I'm proud of myself for achieving my goals."

Do you wear leather (not a kinky question)?

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Do you wear leather (not a kinky question)?"

I don't buy myself leather anymore no. I have a couple of leather jackets from my pre-vegan days that I'm not throwing away because, again, I haven't really done it for moral reasons. But I don't buy leather now and I try to go for products I know aren't tested on animals too, so I don't feel guilty.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *tew008Man
over a year ago

edinburgh

"Ok we stopped eating meat. All of us.

The livestock would need to be culled surely?

I mean who is going to keep a herd of cattle for the sake of it?

And all those future animals not born?

You know stupidity is the real cause of climate change.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *partharmonyCouple
over a year ago

Ruislip

I don't find vegans superior. I just find them convinced of their choice and capable of putting forward a good case for it. I don't think that's the same thing.

I, on the other hand, can't enjoy a meal unless I know an animal has died.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Ok we stopped eating meat. All of us.

The livestock would need to be culled surely?

I mean who is going to keep a herd of cattle for the sake of it?

And all those future animals not born?

You know stupidity is the real cause of climate change."

That's you done for then.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

[Removed by poster at 06/06/19 17:12:39]

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Most people that claim to be vegan aren't actually vegan. Being vegan is more than what you eat. "

Well said.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ucy LewdWoman
over a year ago

North Oxfordshire

"I bet most vegans still drive cars, catch planes, use central heating, use plastic and have babies .

Saving the planet my arse."

I mean... I drive possibly once a month. Go on a plane once a year. Try to wear an extra jumper instead of paying a company to heat my house. Avoid plastic if I can. And I've been sterilised.

So... what is it that's *really* bothering you about vegans then?

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ucy LewdWoman
over a year ago

North Oxfordshire

I don't personally eat lots of imported or fortified food and I don't have B12 injections.

I seem pretty healthy. Certainly haven't got any complaints.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I mean... I drive possibly once a month. Go on a plane once a year. Try to wear an extra jumper instead of paying a company to heat my house. Avoid plastic if I can. And I've been sterilised.

So... what is it that's *really* bothering you about vegans then?"

Err, nothing. I just don't see them as saviours of the planet.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ucy LewdWoman
over a year ago

North Oxfordshire

I mean... I drive possibly once a month. Go on a plane once a year. Try to wear an extra jumper instead of paying a company to heat my house. Avoid plastic if I can. And I've been sterilised.

So... what is it that's *really* bothering you about vegans then?

Err, nothing. I just don't see them as saviours of the planet."

None of the vegans I know see themselves as saviours of the planet. They see themselves as people who don't use or eat animals that can't consent.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *innie The MinxWoman
over a year ago

Under the Duvet

I was a veggie on my 20s and sime people used to go out of their way to pick arguments about it. I was quite shy in those days, and not a "preachy" veggie.

Sometimes people feel threatened by anyone "different", -I've had similar reactions more recently when I've been out with drinkers and I've not for whatever reason been drinking.

Someone who isn't following the "pack" can make some people feel uncomfortable.

I think that says more about them, to be honest.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

By all means do what you want no judgement but why have quorn chicken or quorn mince or no meat bacon jack fruit pulled pork lol winds me up x

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

Thank you for highlighting veganism.

Even badly informed uneducated and unreasonable publicity is publicity.

Lots of love. Granny VEGAN xx

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

With the potential to lose many of our insect life, just eating plants won't save them.

Their loss is due to loss of habitat and toxins from pesticides, herbicides and fertilisers.

Saving the planet includes letting your yard go wild, and eating food that hasn't been grown at cost to nature.

Some of these new hydroponic veg factories seen promising.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’m on three peoples!! Unprecedented!

I like this!

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *eakcoupleCouple
over a year ago

peak district

"I bet most vegans still drive cars, catch planes, use central heating, use plastic and have babies .

Saving the planet my arse."

Know they are (slightly) different types, but love that Arnold Schwartznegger remark when he's fighting Silvester Stallone -

"You fight like a vegetarian!"

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ommyxyzMan
over a year ago

Crawley

Should be shot st birth, totally unnatural!

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Does anyone find that most vegans have this underlying sense of superiority over everyone? "

No. It's nothing to do with being a vegan or not, more to do with the individuals character.

I know a lot of vegans and vegetarians who don't force their views on me or others, I know many non vegetarians who do force their ideas on others.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *obbytupperMan
over a year ago

Menston near Ilkley

I remember working in a restaurant 40 years ago and this customer telling me he was a vegan. Having never heard the term before I replied ' No problem Sir we get lots of Martians in too'

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I was a veggie on my 20s and sime people used to go out of their way to pick arguments about it. I was quite shy in those days, and not a "preachy" veggie.

Sometimes people feel threatened by anyone "different", -I've had similar reactions more recently when I've been out with drinkers and I've not for whatever reason been drinking.

Someone who isn't following the "pack" can make some people feel uncomfortable.

I think that says more about them, to be honest."

Completely true. I find this in many walks of life and especially on fab.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ucy LewdWoman
over a year ago

North Oxfordshire

"By all means do what you want no judgement but why have quorn chicken or quorn mince or no meat bacon jack fruit pulled pork lol winds me up x"

Not wanting to keep or kill animals because you disagree with it ethically doesn't mean that you don't like the way chicken tastes.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ucy LewdWoman
over a year ago

North Oxfordshire

"With the potential to lose many of our insect life, just eating plants won't save them.

Their loss is due to loss of habitat and toxins from pesticides, herbicides and fertilisers.

Saving the planet includes letting your yard go wild, and eating food that hasn't been grown at cost to nature.

Some of these new hydroponic veg factories seen promising.

My garden is pretty wild because I'm lazy. :D

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *opsy RogersWoman
over a year ago

London

Soil needs animal shit to fertilise it to provide the nutrients to grow stuff.

The millions of miles of thick plastic that is used to grow crops under all year eventually becomes useless and is placed in landfill next to rivers. This has a huge negative impact on the surrounding wildlife, flora and waterways and marine life is dying because of it.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

[Removed by poster at 06/06/19 18:52:20]

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"With the potential to lose many of our insect life, just eating plants won't save them.

Their loss is due to loss of habitat and toxins from pesticides, herbicides and fertilisers.

Saving the planet includes letting your yard go wild, and eating food that hasn't been grown at cost to nature.

Some of these new hydroponic veg factories seen promising.

My garden is pretty wild because I'm lazy. :D"

Trim it

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Growing meat in a lab is the way forward for the future of world food production.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Growing meat in a lab is the way forward for the future of world food production."

Just like GM crops were too. Look what that has done.

Most people in the west consume 3x the volume of what their body needs and because it's mostly overcooked, it's lost most of the usable nutrients. What really would change things is if people reduced their consumption and made wiser choices about what they consumed.

Many many studies have shown there's a direct correlation with what we consume and some cancers. This is also a driving reason for any vegetarians and vegans.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"By all means do what you want no judgement but why have quorn chicken or quorn mince or no meat bacon jack fruit pulled pork lol winds me up x"

So true!! Why hate meat but still want to try and simulate it!

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ucy LewdWoman
over a year ago

North Oxfordshire

"By all means do what you want no judgement but why have quorn chicken or quorn mince or no meat bacon jack fruit pulled pork lol winds me up x

So true!! Why hate meat but still want to try and simulate it! "

Most vegans don't agree with the killing of animals for food and/or products used by humans.

They don't have any particular problem with food that isn't made from animals.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Never actually had a vegan tell me anything, had to listen to hundreds of people moan about vegans though, hilarious, enough of this anway, wheres my half a dead cow!

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm in no way vegan or veggie - but I have a lot of meat free days - maybe 5 out of 7

I quite like the meat substitutes, sausages, mince etc .. I actually prefer them.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Grow your own where possible. You don't need lots of chemicals. Tastes much better than supermarket produce.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

"Growing meat in a lab is the way forward for the future of world food production.

Just like GM crops were too. Look what that has done.

Many many studies have shown there's a direct correlation with what we consume and some cancers. This is also a driving reason for any vegetarians and vegans."

What did GM crops do?

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *chilles and RavenCouple
over a year ago

Guernsey

To be honest. Most don't mention being vegan as they have to listen to average people suddenly being experts on what is good for you and that there way is the right way. Back in the 60's smoking was considered to be healthy. You would not say that now.

They may not be everyones cup of cocoa. Personally I do not mention it to people unless they ask. But most people are nosey and ask why you decline food and then you will start a oh how do you know someone is vegan.. Don't worry they will tell you rant.

I will only preach if I am Told that I should eat animals then the gloves are off.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

For every lb of meat it takes between 15-20 lbs of vegetable to produce it, farming is primarily done to feed animals and that’s approximately 80% of the worlds fields

Stop farming animals means less food is needed to be grown so just food for humans and rainforests are left alone

I just wish I could be a vegan, tbh meat doesn’t taste as good as it used to anyway but we are just so set in our ways

So I’d still bow to the vegans they really are the ones taking care of this world by doing this personal choice and in future we probably will all be anyway

Regarding cruelty you really should look online and see what life is like for animals that are farmed

As Rome burns I will be eating steak medium rare with cream and mustard sauce, mushrooms and chips.. enjoy your lettuce and lecture..

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I font think they do, I have a few vegan friends not one has shoved the idea down my throat. Also they dont go on about it very much.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Growing meat in a lab is the way forward for the future of world food production.

Just like GM crops were too. Look what that has done.

Many many studies have shown there's a direct correlation with what we consume and some cancers. This is also a driving reason for any vegetarians and vegans.

What did GM crops do?"

Lab grown meat isn't the same as GM foods.

Cells can be taken harmlessly for any animal and can then be cultured in to a pure fat free meat of that animal.

The are cells split and grown via vitro cultivation. Technically the cells only needs to harvested once as they can be copied many times over.

The meat is then grown; at the moment only in the lab, into whatever needs to be produced.

The meat is 100% pure and unmodified.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *nderIwonder.Man
over a year ago

2nd City

"Do you wear leather (not a kinky question)?

blah blah sitting on the fence.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

For every lb of meat it takes between 15-20 lbs of vegetable to produce it, farming is primarily done to feed animals and that’s approximately 80% of the worlds fields

Stop farming animals means less food is needed to be grown so just food for humans and rainforests are left alone

I just wish I could be a vegan, tbh meat doesn’t taste as good as it used to anyway but we are just so set in our ways

So I’d still bow to the vegans they really are the ones taking care of this world by doing this personal choice and in future we probably will all be anyway

Regarding cruelty you really should look online and see what life is like for animals that are farmed

As Rome burns I will be eating steak medium rare with cream and mustard sauce, mushrooms and chips.. enjoy your lettuce and lecture..

Is nobody allowed to debate veganism on a post that argues Vegans are supposedly forcing their values on meat eaters? Or are the meat eaters here only allowed to lecture the Vegans?

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

For every lb of meat it takes between 15-20 lbs of vegetable to produce it, farming is primarily done to feed animals and that’s approximately 80% of the worlds fields

Stop farming animals means less food is needed to be grown so just food for humans and rainforests are left alone

I just wish I could be a vegan, tbh meat doesn’t taste as good as it used to anyway but we are just so set in our ways

So I’d still bow to the vegans they really are the ones taking care of this world by doing this personal choice and in future we probably will all be anyway

Regarding cruelty you really should look online and see what life is like for animals that are farmed

As Rome burns I will be eating steak medium rare with cream and mustard sauce, mushrooms and chips.. enjoy your lettuce and lecture..

Is nobody allowed to debate veganism on a post that argues Vegans are supposedly forcing their values on meat eaters? Or are the meat eaters here only allowed to lecture the Vegans?"

This

and I'm a meat eater

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

I once read that something like over 99.9% of all of the species that have ever lived on earth are now extinct. After I read that I cannot too excited about a few lions or monkeys.. Humans will surely become extinct too..

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ucy LewdWoman
over a year ago

North Oxfordshire

Lab grown meat isn't the same as GM foods.

Cells can be taken harmlessly for any animal and can then be cultured in to a pure fat free meat of that animal.

The are cells split and grown via vitro cultivation. Technically the cells only needs to harvested once as they can be copied many times over.

The meat is then grown; at the moment only in the lab, into whatever needs to be produced.

The meat is 100% pure and unmodified."

But still, the original animal has not consented to giving those cells. So vegans will still find that problematic and not eat it.

It might be a good environmental solution, but while many vegans do also care about the environment, it is not environmental issues that generally cause them to be vegan.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *an_LexaCouple
over a year ago

Sunderland

"Do you wear leather (not a kinky question)?

blah blah sitting on the fence. "

People like you mate that really boil my piss.

There is no sitting on the fence.

Everyone has their own reasons for the choices they make and this woman has outlined hers, she doesn’t actually need to justify anything to anyone but she has.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Lab grown meat isn't the same as GM foods.

Cells can be taken harmlessly for any animal and can then be cultured in to a pure fat free meat of that animal.

The are cells split and grown via vitro cultivation. Technically the cells only needs to harvested once as they can be copied many times over.

The meat is then grown; at the moment only in the lab, into whatever needs to be produced.

The meat is 100% pure and unmodified.

But still, the original animal has not consented to giving those cells. So vegans will still find that problematic and not eat it.

It might be a good environmental solution, but while many vegans do also care about the environment, it is not environmental issues that generally cause them to be vegan."

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"By all means do what you want no judgement but why have quorn chicken or quorn mince or no meat bacon jack fruit pulled pork lol winds me up x"

This is something that I find odd too. Was in Sainsbury and saw 'vegetarian Duck breasts' wtaf!! That is not Duck, what vegeterian would want to something labelled as animal meat?

As for vegans, the word 'bacon' in my head overrides anything said to me.

Same as everyone really.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ucy LewdWoman
over a year ago

North Oxfordshire

"By all means do what you want no judgement but why have quorn chicken or quorn mince or no meat bacon jack fruit pulled pork lol winds me up x

This is something that I find odd too. Was in Sainsbury and saw 'vegetarian Duck breasts' wtaf!! That is not Duck, what vegeterian would want to something labelled as animal meat?

As for vegans, the word 'bacon' in my head overrides anything said to me.

Same as everyone really."

I'm a vegan who doesn't mind eating stuff labeled as fake animal.

Do you know why I don't mind eating stuff that isn't made from animals?

Because it's not animals.

Because as a vegan I don't eat animals. But I do eat things I like the taste of. And mock duck is actually super tasty.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ibblingnewtWoman
over a year ago

by the sea

"By all means do what you want no judgement but why have quorn chicken or quorn mince or no meat bacon jack fruit pulled pork lol winds me up x

This is something that I find odd too. Was in Sainsbury and saw 'vegetarian Duck breasts' wtaf!! That is not Duck, what vegeterian would want to something labelled as animal meat?

As for vegans, the word 'bacon' in my head overrides anything said to me.

Same as everyone really."

That will be because of changing a diet completely is a hell of a difficult thing to do initially, some vegetarians really miss things like a bacon sandwich so whilst they are trying their best so what’s wrong with substitutes, some people just don’t have great cooking skills so need a ready meal but ultimately it’s not meat

Even if we all had non meat half the week be it plain veg or substitutes that would be better for us all and less meat consumed beans less farmed less killed

I make chilli with Veggy mince for healthy meal and most people I know do too

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ibblingnewtWoman
over a year ago

by the sea

"Ok we stopped eating meat. All of us.

The livestock would need to be culled surely?

I mean who is going to keep a herd of cattle for the sake of it?

And all those future animals not born?

Do you think the whole world is going to become vegans overnight ?

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ibblingnewtWoman
over a year ago

by the sea

"Personally I'm vegan more because when I tried it, it got rid of my IBS, acne and I lost weight.

I do slip up from time to time, usually when I'm d*unk!

I don't lecture anyone unless they start giving me shit for it. I do tell people though if it comes up in conversation as it takes effort and I'm proud of myself for achieving my goals.

Do you wear leather (not a kinky question)?"

I’ve not brought any leather in years most shoes and jackets are fake now and it’s not bad quality tbh

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ibblingnewtWoman
over a year ago

by the sea

"I once read that something like over 99.9% of all of the species that have ever lived on earth are now extinct. After I read that I cannot too excited about a few lions or monkeys.. Humans will surely become extinct too..

Yes I’m sure lots of people don’t really give a damm either be it evolution or down to man but we should care about the world if not for us but the future of mankind and a future where we don’t damage the resources we have

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

Why try to separate humans from the animal kingdom? We are mammals just like those in the animal world. We compete for resources just like them and just like a fox in a henhouse when we only need one hen to survive we will kill the lot.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *aid backMan
over a year ago

by a lake with my rod out

Not only vegans but, cyclists, runners, motorcyclists and people who drink craft beers

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ucy LewdWoman
over a year ago

North Oxfordshire

"Why try to separate humans from the animal kingdom? We are mammals just like those in the animal world. We compete for resources just like them and just like a fox in a henhouse when we only need one hen to survive we will kill the lot. "

You're quite right. Lets just get back to men smashing women over the head, dragging them back to the cave, and having sex with them against their will...

Who needs notions of consent anyway if we're all just animals?

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately