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Class A drug addicts should be

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Segregated from public places such as town centres parks and shopping centres

I have had a knife pulled on me twice by a drug addict now and im frankly tired of the lack off effective policing involving drugs in this country

Seeing smack heads pased out on the floor, puking in public and walking around town's and cities waitingto pick up or get their benifits is not what kids should have to see on a daily basis

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How do you know it was class A and not legal highs etc?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Probably spice, not smack

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Legal high should be flat out banned

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And how do you propose we do that?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Not just leaving them sleeping outside public stores covered in puke and piss and harrasing random bystanders for money

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Not just leaving them sleeping outside public stores covered in puke and piss and harrasing random bystanders for money"

Right

How are we paying for that?

Where are they going?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Not just leaving them sleeping outside public stores covered in puke and piss and harrasing random bystanders for money"

I think you'll find alcohol causes more problems...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Lowestoft the drug capital of Britain.....

who knew

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Legal high should be flat out banned"

I thought they already were?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Take it from their benifits rather they had an option to be given help and put on a program to get clean than all my tax money to spend on drugs and sleep rough.

And if they continue to purchase illegal and legal highs whilst on benifits they should be cut

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Legal high should be flat out banned

I thought they already were?"

They are

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By *uzukiNo1Woman
over a year ago

Rhyl

Exactly how are you going to know who,s a snack head or not? Blood tests before they enter the restricted area?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Take it from their benifits rather they had an option to be given help and put on a program to get clean than all my tax money to spend on drugs and sleep rough.

And if they continue to purchase illegal and legal highs whilst on benifits they should be cut"

Lots of people on these drugs are homeless and don’t receive benefits

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Take it from their benifits rather they had an option to be given help and put on a program to get clean than all my tax money to spend on drugs and sleep rough.

And if they continue to purchase illegal and legal highs whilst on benifits they should be cut"

You're so small minded, it's unreal!

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By *linyMan
over a year ago

Manchester/London


"Segregated from public places such as town centres parks and shopping centres

I have had a knife pulled on me twice by a drug addict now and im frankly tired of the lack off effective policing involving drugs in this country

Seeing smack heads pased out on the floor, puking in public and walking around town's and cities waitingto pick up or get their benifits is not what kids should have to see on a daily basis"

So you are happy to be random drug tested by the police at anytime whilst in a town/city?

Policing is not the problem, addiction is a disease and therefore requires treatment by professionals.

Are you sure they’re smack heads? Do you have superhuman diagnostic abilities to tell what they’ve had? Could it be the same as people we see staggering out of nightclubs vomiting everywhere?

So you’ve been a victim of knife crime, are ALL knife crime victims victims of Class A drugs? NO.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Good point swiftly deleted haha! Everything in moderation though!

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By *irth.Minge.FireMan
over a year ago

Seen in far off places

Think I'll cancel my summer vacation to Lowestoft...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Not just leaving them sleeping outside public stores covered in puke and piss and harrasing random bystanders for money"

Schrodingers junk1e. Simultaneously sleeping and harassing people

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In an ideal world the government would have plenty of money to help these people off drugs properly, and to crack down on the drug trade. But this isn’t an ideal world.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Get out of Lowestoft mate, absolute pits

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

They loiter outside restaurants cafes the library in the centre of round abouts asleep on the path where should I go???

Move I can't unfortunately as I'm a carer for my ill parent and don't make even working a full time job

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Take it from their benifits rather they had an option to be given help and put on a program to get clean than all my tax money to spend on drugs and sleep rough.

And if they continue to purchase illegal and legal highs whilst on benifits they should be cut"

Your tax money is being sent on them sleeping rough?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Here we go with the disease argument utter bollocks no one is born wierd to smoke crack

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

They use their money on drugs and beer

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They loiter outside restaurants cafes the library in the centre of round abouts asleep on the path where should I go???

Move I can't unfortunately as I'm a carer for my ill parent and don't make even working a full time job "

I’d say use your head mate, i haven’t met many people who struggle with issues interact more than just asking for spare change. I’d say a knife being pulled on you twice in a town centre is either extremely unlucky or bullshit?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Here we go with the disease argument utter bollocks no one is born wierd to smoke crack"

Addiction is a disease.

Also if you click reply+quote we’ll know who you’re replying to

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Isn’t this thread against ‘rules’

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By *wist my nipplesCouple
over a year ago

North East Scotland, mostly

Wow. Fundamental misunderstanding of so many issues OP that I don’t even know where to begin.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Their should be harsher rules in terms of benifits restrictions when it comes to helping people who are addicted.

Drugs tests randomly twice a month

With them failing would be a deterrent rather than just giv8ng them money

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By *linyMan
over a year ago

Manchester/London


"Here we go with the disease argument utter bollocks no one is born wierd to smoke crack"

I’m sooooooo sorry. You’re obviously a qualified Professor of Psychology. I shall ignore my 26 years of medical practice(still practicing as I’m not that good enough yet to do it for real)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Put in rehabilitation

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Report it then freedom of speech police

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Their should be harsher rules in terms of benifits restrictions when it comes to helping people who are addicted.

Drugs tests randomly twice a month

With them failing would be a deterrent rather than just giv8ng them money"

People who are addicts will find there poison if they get benefits or not!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Legal high should be flat out banned"

They’ve been banned haven’t they I don’t know the class but I’m sure they’ve been banned

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Their *

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Take it from their benifits rather they had an option to be given help and put on a program to get clean than all my tax money to spend on drugs and sleep rough.

And if they continue to purchase illegal and legal highs whilst on benifits they should be cut"

You'd be surprised how many affluent people indulge in class A.

Trouble is, you can take it from their benefits as you say, but then what?

Are we as an allegedly civilised society going to watch people die on the streets with no home or food, albeit that some live pretty grim lives?

Yes they make grim viewing, but they are a product of our country and us.

If they commit criminal offences then report it.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

National service

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Legal high should be flat out banned

They’ve been banned haven’t they I don’t know the class but I’m sure they’ve been banned "

Not all. The psycho-substances act covers it I believe.

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By *irth.Minge.FireMan
over a year ago

Seen in far off places


"Report it then freedom of speech police"

We need the spelling and grammar police on this one also...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"National service "

What are you replying to?

Use reply+quote

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Ouch I'm hurt

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"National service "

did you serve? Theres plenty of squaddies who've indulged I assure you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I know way more people addicted to legals than any illegal drugs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They loiter outside restaurants cafes the library in the centre of round abouts asleep on the path where should I go???

Move I can't unfortunately as I'm a carer for my ill parent and don't make even working a full time job

I’d say use your head mate, i haven’t met many people who struggle with issues interact more than just asking for spare change. I’d say a knife being pulled on you twice in a town centre is either extremely unlucky or bullshit?"

That was my thoughts too.

But the OP clearly just wants to rant about vulnerable people and as yhe thread goes on is clearly just posting more and more vitriol so I must admit I'm not totally convinced this happened

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By *wist my nipplesCouple
over a year ago

North East Scotland, mostly


"Report it then freedom of speech police

We need the spelling and grammar police on this one also..."

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Take it from their benifits rather they had an option to be given help and put on a program to get clean than all my tax money to spend on drugs and sleep rough.

And if they continue to purchase illegal and legal highs whilst on benifits they should be cut

You'd be surprised how many affluent people indulge in class A.

Trouble is, you can take it from their benefits as you say, but then what?

Are we as an allegedly civilised society going to watch people die on the streets with no home or food, albeit that some live pretty grim lives?

Yes they make grim viewing, but they are a product of our country and us.

If they commit criminal offences then report it."

Last time I was attacked the police were zero help at all probably more interested in making sure no one's feelings have been hurt online

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Take it from their benifits rather they had an option to be given help and put on a program to get clean than all my tax money to spend on drugs and sleep rough.

And if they continue to purchase illegal and legal highs whilst on benifits they should be cut

You'd be surprised how many affluent people indulge in class A.

Trouble is, you can take it from their benefits as you say, but then what?

Are we as an allegedly civilised society going to watch people die on the streets with no home or food, albeit that some live pretty grim lives?

Yes they make grim viewing, but they are a product of our country and us.

If they commit criminal offences then report it.

Last time I was attacked the police were zero help at all probably more interested in making sure no one's feelings have been hurt online"

Were you attacked with a knife while online?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Has been almost attacked with a deadly weapon twice yet they are vulnerable people, ok

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Legal high should be flat out banned

They’ve been banned haven’t they I don’t know the class but I’m sure they’ve been banned

Not all. The psycho-substances act covers it I believe."

That’s right. I’ve never been approached by a drug addict well I don’t think I have anyway I do see more and more in Birmingham city centre but most of them sleep and live out in the town

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By *c1989Woman
over a year ago

Manchester


"Not just leaving them sleeping outside public stores covered in puke and piss and harrasing random bystanders for money

I think you'll find alcohol causes more problems... "

I was just about to day he should include alcohol in his ban on legal highs.

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By *wist my nipplesCouple
over a year ago

North East Scotland, mostly

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You walk through any town or city at midnight and you see the affects of legal addiction. A lot more shit goes on pissed up. Should we segregate alcoholics.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They use their money on drugs and beer "

So would you if you were homeless, they are asleep in the day because it is too dangerous to sleep at night

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Not just leaving them sleeping outside public stores covered in puke and piss and harrasing random bystanders for money

I think you'll find alcohol causes more problems...

I was just about to day he should include alcohol in his ban on legal highs. "

He hasn't got a fucking clue!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You walk through any town or city at midnight and you see the affects of legal addiction. A lot more shit goes on pissed up. Should we segregate alcoholics. "

We shouldn’t ‘segregate’ anyone

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You walk through any town or city at midnight and you see the affects of legal addiction. A lot more shit goes on pissed up. Should we segregate alcoholics.

We shouldn’t ‘segregate’ anyone "

Exactly

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Their should be harsher rules in terms of benifits restrictions when it comes to helping people who are addicted.

Drugs tests randomly twice a month

With them failing would be a deterrent rather than just giv8ng them money"

Nope... No it won't. It will just mean they will be more likely to get involved in criminal activity to fund their addiction

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By *dam1971Man
over a year ago

Bedford


"National service "

You really think the army has the resources to do the right thing for them?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You walk through any town or city at midnight and you see the affects of legal addiction. A lot more shit goes on pissed up. Should we segregate alcoholics.

We shouldn’t ‘segregate’ anyone "

I think he’s angry because he’s been attacked by drug addicts. But the thing is not all drug addicts are the same not all steal to feed the addiction

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By *ollydoesWoman
over a year ago

Shangri-La


"Their should be harsher rules in terms of benifits restrictions when it comes to helping people who are addicted.

Drugs tests randomly twice a month

With them failing would be a deterrent rather than just giv8ng them money"

Just encouraging them to break the law to get money then.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've just lost my partner to addiction.

30 years of age.. And dead.

Alcohol kills far more people than anything.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

... Should be offered help. Addiction is a disease very few people can beat on their own.

Liberalise drug laws, make them legal, tax them and use those funds to help the victims of our fucked up war on drugs.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Stab vest u can tell him fook off with confidence then

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By *he Devils Daughter!Woman
over a year ago

some where in yorkshire

I work for nhs n see this on my wards day in day out , we get the regular alcoholics n drug users all the time regular flyers as much as it boils my piss at them taking other patients that really need the beds up I feel useless as do all the doctors consultants sisters n matrons on my ward! It’s an illness mentally nhs needs more help regarding this

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've just lost my partner to addiction.

30 years of age.. And dead.

Alcohol kills far more people than anything. "

That’s true. I lived with addiction to alcohol as a child it was far worse than the local smack heads kids the beating etc

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By *irth.Minge.FireMan
over a year ago

Seen in far off places


"... Should be offered help. Addiction is a disease very few people can beat on their own.

Liberalise drug laws, make them legal, tax them and use those funds to help the victims of our fucked up war on drugs. "

Nonsense

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By *he Devils Daughter!Woman
over a year ago

some where in yorkshire


"Lowestoft the drug capital of Britain.....

who knew "

Huddersfield is worst

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Legal high should be flat out banned"

I believe they are. But like all illegal drugs they can be bought on the streets.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"... Should be offered help. Addiction is a disease very few people can beat on their own.

Liberalise drug laws, make them legal, tax them and use those funds to help the victims of our fucked up war on drugs.

Nonsense "

Why? Liberalising laws has worked elsewhere in the world where as draconian measures seem to achieve nothibg

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If I was homeless and had to live on the streets in all weather, at a risk to my own life, if I had a bad start to life, maybe had suffered from abuse, maybe I belonged nowhere, no friends or family, no self respect or dignity and not much to live for, maybe I would turn to class A drugs.

None of us know their reasons, where they have came from, what they have endured or have to live with. I don't judge.

Desperation and addiction causes them to do allsorts which they wouldn't have otherwise have done if not for the addiction. Which is why we should treat the addiction and rehabilitate in my opinion.

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By *ookingforfun9970Man
over a year ago

nearby


"Segregated from public places such as town centres parks and shopping centres

I have had a knife pulled on me twice by a drug addict now and im frankly tired of the lack off effective policing involving drugs in this country

Seeing smack heads pased out on the floor, puking in public and walking around town's and cities waitingto pick up or get their benifits is not what kids should have to see on a daily basis"

Completely agree with you

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By *ollydoesWoman
over a year ago

Shangri-La

You have no idea how these people came to hlbe in these circumstances.. some will be ex army who have have left the service and expected to just get on with civvy life..some are are suffering effects from what they have seen while in service and not received the proper help wh leaving and ended up there..alot of pimps will pray on young girls and purposely get them addicted to they can control them...slot of kids turn to drugs these days to cope with unhappiness at home and it escalates..

I'm trying to say no one on life chooses to be an addict and you have no idea of the stories behind the people. It can take just one moment..one hit..one fix..for you to be under the spell of the drug. The drug that makes youbfoget your money problems...that your old man just beat you..that someone you loved just died...that your living on the streets...that your mum threw you out when the benefits stopped. There are so many reasons why it happens yet very few people who have the empathy to try and understand... No one chooses that life..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If I was homeless and had to live on the streets in all weather, at a risk to my own life, if I had a bad start to life, maybe had suffered from abuse, maybe I belonged nowhere, no friends or family, no self respect or dignity and not much to live for, maybe I would turn to class A drugs.

None of us know their reasons, where they have came from, what they have endured or have to live with. I don't judge.

Desperation and addiction causes them to do allsorts which they wouldn't have otherwise have done if not for the addiction. Which is why we should treat the addiction and rehabilitate in my opinion. "

I was told once a lot of homeless use it so they don’t feel the cold smack apparently makes you numb

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've just lost my partner to addiction.

30 years of age.. And dead.

Alcohol kills far more people than anything. "

My condolences to you.

Think a lot have lost relatives,friends through alcohol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That's what happens when drug addicts are treated like criminals instead of victims.

They get fines that they cant pay, or locked up, then thrown back out right where they started.

That's what happens I suppose when the government spends basically nothing on rehabilitation services, or proper homeless shelters, or drug treatment programs, or basically anything that would help addicts get out of the pit they find themselves in

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By *tingly ByronMan
over a year ago

In a town Fab forgot


"National service "

I very much doubt the armed services would welcome drug addicts into their ranks.

I'd also doubt they'd be willing or able to provide the rehabilitative care drug addicts need.

What else have you got?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"... Should be offered help. Addiction is a disease very few people can beat on their own.

Liberalise drug laws, make them legal, tax them and use those funds to help the victims of our fucked up war on drugs.

Nonsense "

You clearly don't understand drugs, addiction or politics. Also your manners mean the end of our chat.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've just lost my partner to addiction.

30 years of age.. And dead.

Alcohol kills far more people than anything.

My condolences to you.

Think a lot have lost relatives,friends through alcohol "

Thank you... We tried everything, he had done detoxes, been in rehab, meetings the lot... But in the end the alcohol won.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If I was homeless and had to live on the streets in all weather, at a risk to my own life, if I had a bad start to life, maybe had suffered from abuse, maybe I belonged nowhere, no friends or family, no self respect or dignity and not much to live for, maybe I would turn to class A drugs.

None of us know their reasons, where they have came from, what they have endured or have to live with. I don't judge.

Desperation and addiction causes them to do allsorts which they wouldn't have otherwise have done if not for the addiction. Which is why we should treat the addiction and rehabilitate in my opinion.

I was told once a lot of homeless use it so they don’t feel the cold smack apparently makes you numb "

Makes you feel numb and warm, like in a cosy bubble. Makes sense why they would if they have proper shit going on that we have no idea about, with our cosy, safe homes.

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By *dam1971Man
over a year ago

Bedford

The police should arrest the criminals and protect the vulnerable.

The problem comes when you realise they could be the same person

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Stab vest u can tell him fook off with confidence then "

People seem to get stabbed in the legs more now

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By *uzukiNo1Woman
over a year ago

Rhyl


"If I was homeless and had to live on the streets in all weather, at a risk to my own life, if I had a bad start to life, maybe had suffered from abuse, maybe I belonged nowhere, no friends or family, no self respect or dignity and not much to live for, maybe I would turn to class A drugs.

None of us know their reasons, where they have came from, what they have endured or have to live with. I don't judge.

Desperation and addiction causes them to do allsorts which they wouldn't have otherwise have done if not for the addiction. Which is why we should treat the addiction and rehabilitate in my opinion.

I was told once a lot of homeless use it so they don’t feel the cold smack apparently makes you numb

Makes you feel numb and warm, like in a cosy bubble. Makes sense why they would if they have proper shit going on that we have no idea about, with our cosy, safe homes. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They should take homeless and drug addicts off the street and put them in care homes.

If someone is showing signs of mental instability and is a danger to themselves and others then they get sectioned and put into a facility. They way I see it its no different from someone living on the streets.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And now there is human shit on the streets of manchester

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If I was homeless and had to live on the streets in all weather, at a risk to my own life, if I had a bad start to life, maybe had suffered from abuse, maybe I belonged nowhere, no friends or family, no self respect or dignity and not much to live for, maybe I would turn to class A drugs.

None of us know their reasons, where they have came from, what they have endured or have to live with. I don't judge.

Desperation and addiction causes them to do allsorts which they wouldn't have otherwise have done if not for the addiction. Which is why we should treat the addiction and rehabilitate in my opinion.

I was told once a lot of homeless use it so they don’t feel the cold smack apparently makes you numb

Makes you feel numb and warm, like in a cosy bubble. Makes sense why they would if they have proper shit going on that we have no idea about, with our cosy, safe homes. "

Exactly I would never judge someone I haven’t got to know myself. We don’t know what has gone on for them to go that way and nobody can say for certain it would never happen to them. Drugs and addiction will always be a problem. I know a lot of heroin addicts in America have only started taking it because they was addicted to prescription meds then taken off them

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By *hoenixAdAstraWoman
over a year ago

Hiding in the shadows

There's been a massive outrage where I live recently due to the behaviour of street drinkers.

Police & council clamped down, lasted a few days before they started to appear again.

I had one swear & shout at me today as I walked past.

More needs to be done to help these people but sadly alot don't want to be helped

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By *irth.Minge.FireMan
over a year ago

Seen in far off places


"... Should be offered help. Addiction is a disease very few people can beat on their own.

Liberalise drug laws, make them legal, tax them and use those funds to help the victims of our fucked up war on drugs.

Nonsense

You clearly don't understand drugs, addiction or politics. Also your manners mean the end of our chat. "

A very assumptive and unfounded retort based solely on my opinion that recreational drug use shouldn't be legalised... hmmm

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By *rontier PsychiatristMan
over a year ago

Coventry


"Get out of Lowestoft mate, absolute pits "

I don't know, me and My Girl had a great afternoon/evening in The Welcome. We only dropped in of an ale and ended stay till we had to leave for the last train.

Although it's bitter sweet because we also had the worst fish and chips ever from a sea front chippy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If they're snorting up using plastic straws, they should be executed immediately.

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By *rontier PsychiatristMan
over a year ago

Coventry


"... Should be offered help. Addiction is a disease very few people can beat on their own.

Liberalise drug laws, make them legal, tax them and use those funds to help the victims of our fucked up war on drugs.

Nonsense

You clearly don't understand drugs, addiction or politics. Also your manners mean the end of our chat.

A very assumptive and unfounded retort based solely on my opinion that recreational drug use shouldn't be legalised... hmmm"

Surely the answer is more to with the health, wellbeing and nature of society than it is to do with enforcing or legalising drugs. The volume of drug use and it's negative outcomes is more a symptom of wider problems.

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By *c1989Woman
over a year ago

Manchester


"... Should be offered help. Addiction is a disease very few people can beat on their own.

Liberalise drug laws, make them legal, tax them and use those funds to help the victims of our fucked up war on drugs. "

agreed there is definitely a case for decriminalising most if not all drugs. At least then they would be regulated and manufactured properly. Wouldn't it be better if you could see the ingredients of something rather than playing Russian roulette as to whether its the real deal or cement for example.

So called legal highs wouldn't exist then either as people wouldn't be trying to emulate the effects of substances that have been around for centuries.

The UK needs to wake up and follow the lead of other countries that have taken steps to decriminalize.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"... Should be offered help. Addiction is a disease very few people can beat on their own.

Liberalise drug laws, make them legal, tax them and use those funds to help the victims of our fucked up war on drugs.

Nonsense

You clearly don't understand drugs, addiction or politics. Also your manners mean the end of our chat.

A very assumptive and unfounded retort based solely on my opinion that recreational drug use shouldn't be legalised... hmmm"

I could say same thing to you, but you were rude, so our chat is over before it begun.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"... Should be offered help. Addiction is a disease very few people can beat on their own.

Liberalise drug laws, make them legal, tax them and use those funds to help the victims of our fucked up war on drugs.

Nonsense

You clearly don't understand drugs, addiction or politics. Also your manners mean the end of our chat.

A very assumptive and unfounded retort based solely on my opinion that recreational drug use shouldn't be legalised... hmmm"

Victim, innit

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By *oncupiscentTonyMan
over a year ago

Kent


"They use their money on drugs and beer "

AND YOU'RE PAYING FOR IT!

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

I fail to see how Legalising it will stop the anti social behaviour aspect of it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They use their money on drugs and beer

AND YOU'RE PAYING FOR IT! "

No I’m not

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Lowestoft the drug capital of Britain.....

who knew "

I did Lol, that's why I moved out of there!

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By *oncupiscentTonyMan
over a year ago

Kent


"They should take homeless and drug addicts off the street and put them in care homes.

If someone is showing signs of mental instability and is a danger to themselves and others then they get sectioned and put into a facility. They way I see it its no different from someone living on the streets."

Can we not just make them go away somewhere out of sight?

Bit like when your mam gave you a fiver to piss off out cause 'uncle' Terry was coming round to visit.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This reminds me, I’ve got to call my dealer. Thanks OP!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This post is gonna end badly. It's like a choice ppl have made when they weren't addicted, but now they ARE addicted so it's no longer a choice, it's just sad and difficult to deal with. Nothing to do with "sensible" recreational drug taking at all.....

I'm not one for legalising anything addictive. Alcohol gives us enough issues as it is. Drugs are a distraction, the subject is overused by politicians for votes and power, but it works, as shown here, innit...

Everyone seems to have gone all tabloid, polarised, red/blue posh/chav, yet again on a complex issue. No thought from anyone, just opinions, it's sad....

W can't disown ppl who've made bad choices, often their next choice, if they get one, can be something brilliant based on their experience....

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By *evil_u_knowMan
over a year ago

city

I agree, I am sick of people saying we should help them by giving them more drugs for free and making it legal.

I think they should heavily clamp down on public d*unks too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This post is gonna end badly. It's like a choice ppl have made when they weren't addicted, but now they ARE addicted so it's no longer a choice, it's just sad and difficult to deal with. Nothing to do with "sensible" recreational drug taking at all.....

I'm not one for legalising anything addictive. Alcohol gives us enough issues as it is. Drugs are a distraction, the subject is overused by politicians for votes and power, but it works, as shown here, innit...

Everyone seems to have gone all tabloid, polarised, red/blue posh/chav, yet again on a complex issue. No thought from anyone, just opinions, it's sad....

W can't disown ppl who've made bad choices, often their next choice, if they get one, can be something brilliant based on their experience.... "

Innit

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

Offer them 20 quid for a blow job? They'll probably take it. winner winner.

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By *arbellsWoman
over a year ago

Cambridge


"National service "

National service would not work!!!

Let's hope you are never in a situation where you are homeless and stuck with judgemental people looking dowm on you and never giving you a chance. Many of these people have gone through horrendous things and have for one reason or another turned to drugs and alcohol.

I don't know whether you have a gripe with drug takers or the homeless but we can't just sweep them under the mat and hope they go away.

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By *rbean69Man
over a year ago

Stroud

The OP is not criticising homeless people, he is talking about Class A drugs users. Homelessness and drug addiction are two separate, but overlapping, problems with separate solutions. I am in favour of helping the homeless but punishing drug users.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Segregated from public places such as town centres parks and shopping centres

I have had a knife pulled on me twice by a drug addict now and im frankly tired of the lack off effective policing involving drugs in this country

Seeing smack heads pased out on the floor, puking in public and walking around town's and cities waitingto pick up or get their benifits is not what kids should have to see on a daily basis"

I was looking at houses in Lowestoft last night! Maybe I will stay here instead!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The OP is not criticising homeless people, he is talking about Class A drugs users. Homelessness and drug addiction are two separate, but overlapping, problems with separate solutions. I am in favour of helping the homeless but punishing drug users."

What about homeless drug users, aka almost all of them?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The OP is not criticising homeless people, he is talking about Class A drugs users. Homelessness and drug addiction are two separate, but overlapping, problems with separate solutions. I am in favour of helping the homeless but punishing drug users.

What about homeless drug users, aka almost all of them? "

Slap and tickle?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The OP is not criticising homeless people, he is talking about Class A drugs users. Homelessness and drug addiction are two separate, but overlapping, problems with separate solutions. I am in favour of helping the homeless but punishing drug users."

And those who fall in to both catchments what about them?

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By *rbean69Man
over a year ago

Stroud


"The OP is not criticising homeless people, he is talking about Class A drugs users. Homelessness and drug addiction are two separate, but overlapping, problems with separate solutions. I am in favour of helping the homeless but punishing drug users.

What about homeless drug users, aka almost all of them?

Slap and tickle? "

Sorry, I don't understand this last comment. Please explain.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The OP is not criticising homeless people, he is talking about Class A drugs users. Homelessness and drug addiction are two separate, but overlapping, problems with separate solutions. I am in favour of helping the homeless but punishing drug users."
What do you think would be achieved with punishment.?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Put them on a island for away til they clean

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Clearly addiction is still being generalised and misunderstood. Anyone who has lived with an addict or been an addict will tell you how crippling this illness is.. for some it may be a choice to begin with, but I wouldn't wish addiction on anybody.

Dehumanising people and putting them where you can't see them doesn't solve anything.

I've lived both sides of this and but for the grace of god, could have easily ended up as the public nuisance you see..others aren't so blessed to have the fight and support needed to beat these demons and live a normal life.

In a world where many people are one paycheck away from poverty and homelessness it's good to look a little bit harder and see that many good people make bad choices or have been put into an impossible situation.

Education and support is needed.. not turning a blind eye or looking in disgust.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Not just leaving them sleeping outside public stores covered in puke and piss and harrasing random bystanders for money

Right

How are we paying for that?

Where are they going?"

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By *rbean69Man
over a year ago

Stroud


"The OP is not criticising homeless people, he is talking about Class A drugs users. Homelessness and drug addiction are two separate, but overlapping, problems with separate solutions. I am in favour of helping the homeless but punishing drug users.What do you think would be achieved with punishment.? "

Try rehabilitation first, then punishment. Give them a chance, but not an infinite number of chances.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The OP is not criticising homeless people, he is talking about Class A drugs users. Homelessness and drug addiction are two separate, but overlapping, problems with separate solutions. I am in favour of helping the homeless but punishing drug users."

What about punishing single men on swinging websites? Not everyone that uses drugs commits crime. Your statement is rather ignorant.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The OP is not criticising homeless people, he is talking about Class A drugs users. Homelessness and drug addiction are two separate, but overlapping, problems with separate solutions. I am in favour of helping the homeless but punishing drug users."

Define punishment and how that will resolve the issue?

A lot of drug users resort to petty crime and antisocial behaviour yes, but invariably they're in troubled lives anyway, and conviction after conviction rarely achieves much.

Resources are rarely available to continously pursue people higher up the chain of supply, so policies focus on the users.

It's a far bigger problem that's brushed under the carpet.

Maybe a holistic approach is needed, like it or not?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Clearly addiction is still being generalised and misunderstood. Anyone who has lived with an addict or been an addict will tell you how crippling this illness is.. for some it may be a choice to begin with, but I wouldn't wish addiction on anybody.

Dehumanising people and putting them where you can't see them doesn't solve anything.

I've lived both sides of this and but for the grace of god, could have easily ended up as the public nuisance you see..others aren't so blessed to have the fight and support needed to beat these demons and live a normal life.

In a world where many people are one paycheck away from poverty and homelessness it's good to look a little bit harder and see that many good people make bad choices or have been put into an impossible situation.

Education and support is needed.. not turning a blind eye or looking in disgust."

Very well said!

Never have I met an addict who wanted that life for themselves.

They need support, understanding and above all to be treated with humanity.

it could happen to any of us.

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By *arbellsWoman
over a year ago

Cambridge


"The OP is not criticising homeless people, he is talking about Class A drugs users. Homelessness and drug addiction are two separate, but overlapping, problems with separate solutions. I am in favour of helping the homeless but punishing drug users."

Lets punish people who drink alcohol and cigarettes then.

Going to punish half the armed forces for drug use? 90% of people on a night out? People who use steroids? Where does it end?

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By *rbean69Man
over a year ago

Stroud


"The OP is not criticising homeless people, he is talking about Class A drugs users. Homelessness and drug addiction are two separate, but overlapping, problems with separate solutions. I am in favour of helping the homeless but punishing drug users.

What about punishing single men on swinging websites? Not everyone that uses drugs commits crime. Your statement is rather ignorant. "

O.K. I meant drug users who commit crime. If you think single men on swinging websites should be punished, lobby your MP.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Clearly addiction is still being generalised and misunderstood. Anyone who has lived with an addict or been an addict will tell you how crippling this illness is.. for some it may be a choice to begin with, but I wouldn't wish addiction on anybody.

Dehumanising people and putting them where you can't see them doesn't solve anything.

I've lived both sides of this and but for the grace of god, could have easily ended up as the public nuisance you see..others aren't so blessed to have the fight and support needed to beat these demons and live a normal life.

In a world where many people are one paycheck away from poverty and homelessness it's good to look a little bit harder and see that many good people make bad choices or have been put into an impossible situation.

Education and support is needed.. not turning a blind eye or looking in disgust."

Love you

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By *rbean69Man
over a year ago

Stroud


"The OP is not criticising homeless people, he is talking about Class A drugs users. Homelessness and drug addiction are two separate, but overlapping, problems with separate solutions. I am in favour of helping the homeless but punishing drug users.

Lets punish people who drink alcohol and cigarettes then.

Going to punish half the armed forces for drug use? 90% of people on a night out? People who use steroids? Where does it end?

"

Alcohol, tobacco & steroids are illegal? It's news to me.

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By *evil_u_knowMan
over a year ago

city


"Lets punish people who drink alcohol and cigarettes then.

Going to punish half the armed forces for drug use? 90% of people on a night out? People who use steroids? Where does it end?

"

I'm fairly happy for all of them to be punished. D*unks pissing all over the place are disgusting.

They should do an alcohol test before they treat you in the a&e, and if you have alcohol in your system others should be treated first.

If you smoke yourself into illness then the medication should be paid for yourself etc.

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By *rbean69Man
over a year ago

Stroud


"Lets punish people who drink alcohol and cigarettes then.

Going to punish half the armed forces for drug use? 90% of people on a night out? People who use steroids? Where does it end?

I'm fairly happy for all of them to be punished. D*unks pissing all over the place are disgusting.

They should do an alcohol test before they treat you in the a&e, and if you have alcohol in your system others should be treated first.

If you smoke yourself into illness then the medication should be paid for yourself etc."

100% agree.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The OP is not criticising homeless people, he is talking about Class A drugs users. Homelessness and drug addiction are two separate, but overlapping, problems with separate solutions. I am in favour of helping the homeless but punishing drug users.

What about homeless drug users, aka almost all of them?

Slap and tickle?

Sorry, I don't understand this last comment. Please explain."

Those who know, know, if you have to ask then..... I'm sorry x

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

Hmmm seems the liberal reaction to being held at knife point is to run at the blade whilst apologising to their attacker... cool crack on.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Lets punish people who drink alcohol and cigarettes then.

Going to punish half the armed forces for drug use? 90% of people on a night out? People who use steroids? Where does it end?

I'm fairly happy for all of them to be punished. D*unks pissing all over the place are disgusting.

They should do an alcohol test before they treat you in the a&e, and if you have alcohol in your system others should be treated first.

If you smoke yourself into illness then the medication should be paid for yourself etc."

If you get an std from fucking about on fab???

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Lets punish people who drink alcohol and cigarettes then.

Going to punish half the armed forces for drug use? 90% of people on a night out? People who use steroids? Where does it end?

I'm fairly happy for all of them to be punished. D*unks pissing all over the place are disgusting.

They should do an alcohol test before they treat you in the a&e, and if you have alcohol in your system others should be treated first.

If you smoke yourself into illness then the medication should be paid for yourself etc.

If you get an std from fucking about on fab??? "

That's not even funny tbh, because there are some serious illnesses and consequences....

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury


"The OP is not criticising homeless people, he is talking about Class A drugs users. Homelessness and drug addiction are two separate, but overlapping, problems with separate solutions. I am in favour of helping the homeless but punishing drug users.

Lets punish people who drink alcohol and cigarettes then.

Going to punish half the armed forces for drug use? 90% of people on a night out? People who use steroids? Where does it end?

Alcohol, tobacco & steroids are illegal? It's news to me."

I was more surprised that half the armed forces manage to avoid the mandatory drug testing. Skillz.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The OP is not criticising homeless people, he is talking about Class A drugs users. Homelessness and drug addiction are two separate, but overlapping, problems with separate solutions. I am in favour of helping the homeless but punishing drug users.

What about punishing single men on swinging websites? Not everyone that uses drugs commits crime. Your statement is rather ignorant.

O.K. I meant drug users who commit crime. If you think single men on swinging websites should be punished, lobby your MP. "

My point is that, yes, there are trouble with some drug users. Though, there’s problems with all sorts of sects of society. Once you punish one group, it would eventually stem to other groups also.

They’re more of a nuisance than anything else. Surely the wannabe gangsters commit more crime?

I’m unsure of the op’s situation, I’ve never in my life been targeted by a drug user. Yet I lived my life in Glasgow. They’re rather hopeless, rather than frightening.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The OP is not criticising homeless people, he is talking about Class A drugs users. Homelessness and drug addiction are two separate, but overlapping, problems with separate solutions. I am in favour of helping the homeless but punishing drug users.

Lets punish people who drink alcohol and cigarettes then.

Going to punish half the armed forces for drug use? 90% of people on a night out? People who use steroids? Where does it end?

Alcohol, tobacco & steroids are illegal? It's news to me."

Alcohol is THE most damaging drug of all. Ranks highest in terms of damage done to society, addicts and families go look up the stats.

But it's legal.. I so that's OK.

Use your brain man

Perhaps stupid people need punishment.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury


"Lets punish people who drink alcohol and cigarettes then.

Going to punish half the armed forces for drug use? 90% of people on a night out? People who use steroids? Where does it end?

I'm fairly happy for all of them to be punished. D*unks pissing all over the place are disgusting.

They should do an alcohol test before they treat you in the a&e, and if you have alcohol in your system others should be treated first.

If you smoke yourself into illness then the medication should be paid for yourself etc."

People eating until they become diabetic.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

But every choice you make in life affects your health and I've yet to meet anyone who knows 100% what choices they should make (even the experts can't agree) let alone makes the right choices, plus we're not all as smart as some on this thread or equipped t make the choices.....

Drug taker with a mental illness, say autism, what do we do with them? Or an ex services with ptsd on crack?

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By *rbean69Man
over a year ago

Stroud


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If you get an std from fucking about on fab??? "

Yes, who else's fault is it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

NHS = we all pay for each other, it's a beautiful thing and picks up those in need, rather than those with greed...!

Ppl in here make me some days with their selfishness, it's great until life hits yo with a blow and you're in need of support...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Serious lack of understanding and emphaty from the op here, no body wants to be an addict, and the biggest problem is alcohol and prescription drugs, not class A's

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By *rbean69Man
over a year ago

Stroud

Can someone answer a question here? I am puzzled by the implication that homeless people, people with mental problems, etc. NEED to take illegal or mind-altering drugs. I have had mental problems including depression, all my life. Only in the last year have I sought medical help, due to a financial crisis, which was itself a result of my mental problems. There was even a danger, now passed, that I might become homeless. Never in my life have I been even tempted by drugs. I have even refused medication for my mental conditions. I gave up drinking alcohol when I was 18 as drinking half a pint of cider made me light-headed.

Please, anyone, just WHAT is the pleasure in being high on drugs?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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If you get an std from fucking about on fab???

Yes, who else's fault is it? "

So ppl with hiv/aids, who can't work, they don't have money, we just let them die? Because they had sex with the wrong person?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Can someone answer a question here? I am puzzled by the implication that homeless people, people with mental problems, etc. NEED to take illegal or mind-altering drugs. I have had mental problems including depression, all my life. Only in the last year have I sought medical help, due to a financial crisis, which was itself a result of my mental problems. There was even a danger, now passed, that I might become homeless. Never in my life have I been even tempted by drugs. I have even refused medication for my mental conditions. I gave up drinking alcohol when I was 18 as drinking half a pint of cider made me light-headed.

Please, anyone, just WHAT is the pleasure in being high on drugs?"

When you're living on the streets it gives a respite from the misery of that sort of existence. Why do you think they all use drugs that stupify rather than other class As which are more of a social/party drug

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By *SAchickWoman
over a year ago

Hillside desolate


"

If you get an std from fucking about on fab???

Yes, who else's fault is it?

So ppl with hiv/aids, who can't work, they don't have money, we just let them die? Because they had sex with the wrong person? "

Yea and if you cross the road on a red man and get hit by a bus, you're fucked because that's your fault too.

Heart attack at the gym? Shouldn't have overdone the exercise eh.

In fact why not just do away with the NHS altogether we can all fend for ourselves. Some right dafties on here.

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By *rbean69Man
over a year ago

Stroud


"

If you get an std from fucking about on fab???

Yes, who else's fault is it?

So ppl with hiv/aids, who can't work, they don't have money, we just let them die? Because they had sex with the wrong person? "

You are putting words into my mouth. You cannot infer this from any of my posts.

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By *rbean69Man
over a year ago

Stroud


"When you're living on the streets it gives a respite from the misery of that sort of existence. Why do you think they all use drugs that stupify rather than other class As which are more of a social/party drug"

OK I admit ignorance here. I wasn't aware of any such distinction.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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If you get an std from fucking about on fab???

Yes, who else's fault is it?

So ppl with hiv/aids, who can't work, they don't have money, we just let them die? Because they had sex with the wrong person?

You are putting words into my mouth. You cannot infer this from any of my posts. "

No but you could answer it an enlighten us? Show some compassion for your species maybe?

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over a year ago


"Can someone answer a question here? I am puzzled by the implication that homeless people, people with mental problems, etc. NEED to take illegal or mind-altering drugs. I have had mental problems including depression, all my life. Only in the last year have I sought medical help, due to a financial crisis, which was itself a result of my mental problems. There was even a danger, now passed, that I might become homeless. Never in my life have I been even tempted by drugs. I have even refused medication for my mental conditions. I gave up drinking alcohol when I was 18 as drinking half a pint of cider made me light-headed.

Please, anyone, just WHAT is the pleasure in being high on drugs?"

Well, maybe if you had tried them: you would be in the same position. There are many forms of depression, just because you consider yourself to have been depressed - does not mean you’ve suffered the same. It sounds more situational, from what you’ve said.

Ty god bless xoxo

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By *rbean69Man
over a year ago

Stroud


"

If you get an std from fucking about on fab???

Yes, who else's fault is it?

So ppl with hiv/aids, who can't work, they don't have money, we just let them die? Because they had sex with the wrong person?

Yea and if you cross the road on a red man and get hit by a bus, you're fucked because that's your fault too.

Heart attack at the gym? Shouldn't have overdone the exercise eh.

In fact why not just do away with the NHS altogether we can all fend for ourselves. Some right dafties on here. "

Some right dafties who are criticising me for things I have never said.

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By *londie8399Couple
over a year ago

blackpool

what would taking there benefits off them achieve, they would just steel to feed there addictions or sell them selves

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By *rbean69Man
over a year ago

Stroud


"

If you get an std from fucking about on fab???

Yes, who else's fault is it?

So ppl with hiv/aids, who can't work, they don't have money, we just let them die? Because they had sex with the wrong person?

You are putting words into my mouth. You cannot infer this from any of my posts.

No but you could answer it an enlighten us? Show some compassion for your species maybe? "

I would treat them and not let them die.

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By *rbean69Man
over a year ago

Stroud


"

Well, maybe if you had tried them: you would be in the same position. There are many forms of depression, just because you consider yourself to have been depressed - does not mean you’ve suffered the same. It sounds more situational, from what you’ve said.

Ty god bless xoxo"

Fair point. Best wishes to you, too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"When you're living on the streets it gives a respite from the misery of that sort of existence. Why do you think they all use drugs that stupify rather than other class As which are more of a social/party drug

OK I admit ignorance here. I wasn't aware of any such distinction."

And this is the problem (not a criticism), we live in a society where we are told drugs are bad but education about drugs is shocking. People use sone class As on a recreational basis with no hint of addiction. Other people use other class As in a very different way yet they are all lumped in together. People believe alcohol is less dangerous because it's legal have no idea that steroids are actually a class c drug and no one really has a ducking clue how safe is and whether it's a gateway drug and font even getting me started on legal highs some of which are as dangerous and addictive as cracking or heroin.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

People who aren't drug addicts can just as easily pull a knife on you. Don't tarnish every drug addict with the same brush.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Lowestoft the drug capital of Britain.....

who knew "
it became pablo's go to holiday destination (don't you know)

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By *adame 2SwordsWoman
over a year ago

Victoria, London

I deal with drug users as part of my job. They earn as much as my house per month, so not all the same.

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By *appytrailmanMan
over a year ago

Manchester

Obviously not nice that you've been threatened with a knife nobody wants that ever but

A) how would you distinguish that someone is on a class A drug? As opposed to a B drug or other class.

B) how do you know when someone is addicted?

C) where are these people supposed to go if they are homeless for example?

Sorry if these questions have been covered earlier just wanted to ask

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I haven't read the entire thread. So sorry if I repeat what someone else has said. How do you know what this person was on ? You are assuming it was class a drugs . Alcohol causes more problems In the world than any drug. But because it is a legalized drug we can buy it in most shops. The Governments around the world make so much money they turn a blind eye . RANT OVER

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By *irth.Minge.FireMan
over a year ago

Seen in far off places

I guess the world would be a better place if IQ assessment and means testing were carried out to decipher the supply of alcohol and drugs to individuals.

A thick shit who wants to commit low level petty crime and / or violence will, no doubt, do so whether under the influence or not - alcohol and drugs will, naturally, exacerbate their desire.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

If you get an std from fucking about on fab???

Yes, who else's fault is it?

So ppl with hiv/aids, who can't work, they don't have money, we just let them die? Because they had sex with the wrong person?

You are putting words into my mouth. You cannot infer this from any of my posts.

No but you could answer it an enlighten us? Show some compassion for your species maybe?

I would treat them and not let them die."

Does the punishment come before or after you treat them?

You have admitted you don't understand drugs and addiction very well. For that you've clawed back some respect with me.

Have you considered that some people are forced into drug use against their will?

Prohibition NEVER works. Ultra conservative nations like Saudi claim not to have addiction issues, but it's a lie. Where there is demand, there is supply. Only we're giving criminals money instead of using our collective brain power.

Arresting small scale cannabis dealers, wasting police resources on the least harmful drugs. Selling one of the worst en masse the world over. It makes no sense.

There is no evidence to prove that user numbers would rise, but if they did.. The drugs would be cleaner, the death toll would be lower.

Have you considered who is stopping it from becoming legalized? Who shuts down every debate on it?

Politicians with vested interests. On the payroll of American private prison system or big pharmaceutical companies. Without petty dealers to arrest, they'd make less profit. Cannabis and Ecstasy could replace many pharmaceutical drugs and lead to loss of profits.

Have you considered the deaths of our police officers, soldiers and the young men and women as they go to war with in countries like Mexico and Columbia? How much money the companies that supply the hardware needed to fight a war on drugs make each year? They've supplied Thailand, Colombia and a host of other nations with a fully kitted out military. MASSIVE MONEY. MASSIVE LOSS OF LIFE.

For what? Some prat who doesn't have a clue saying "Drugs are mmmmmmmk" because they believe crap on TV. Have no compassion or empathy because they don't understand. People like that are as big a part of the problem as the users themselves in my humble opinion. Nothing in this world is black and white. Punishing and addict for being an addict? You may as we punch someone with dementia for being forgetful!

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By *rx1Couple
over a year ago

North West Devon...


"National service "

Is that National Service for everyone or just the so called Druggies ?

If you put a load of people in an Highly trained, Highly motivated organisation, that simply don't want to be there, it will soon drag it down.

BTW the Military also have drug issues.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This post is gonna end badly. It's like a choice ppl have made when they weren't addicted, but now they ARE addicted so it's no longer a choice, it's just sad and difficult to deal with. Nothing to do with "sensible" recreational drug taking at all.....

I'm not one for legalising anything addictive. Alcohol gives us enough issues as it is. Drugs are a distraction, the subject is overused by politicians for votes and power, but it works, as shown here, innit...

Everyone seems to have gone all tabloid, polarised, red/blue posh/chav, yet again on a complex issue. No thought from anyone, just opinions, it's sad....

W can't disown ppl who've made bad choices, often their next choice, if they get one, can be something brilliant based on their experience.... "

I didn't have a choice... I was in unbearable pain, my doctor prescribed me painkillers, longterm.. I became addicted to them... As easy as that! Was I meant to say no and go insane from the pain?!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Report it then freedom of speech police

We need the spelling and grammar police on this one also..."

hmmm....perhaps they'll help you with the correct use and placement of adverbs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"National service

Is that National Service for everyone or just the so called Druggies ?

If you put a load of people in an Highly trained, Highly motivated organisation, that simply don't want to be there, it will soon drag it down.

BTW the Military also have drug issues.

"

VIE-ET-NAM. Lesson learned surely? Off your tits on LSD, jungle encroaching in, enemies all around, but hidden from view. An arse for an NCO? Weapon in hand?

Get some!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"National service

Is that National Service for everyone or just the so called Druggies ?

If you put a load of people in an Highly trained, Highly motivated organisation, that simply don't want to be there, it will soon drag it down.

BTW the Military also have drug issues.

"

Plus, putting drug addicts in an environment where there are guns and explosives probably isn't a great idea either

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

If you get an std from fucking about on fab???

Yes, who else's fault is it?

So ppl with hiv/aids, who can't work, they don't have money, we just let them die? Because they had sex with the wrong person?

You are putting words into my mouth. You cannot infer this from any of my posts.

No but you could answer it an enlighten us? Show some compassion for your species maybe?

I would treat them and not let them die.

Does the punishment come before or after you treat them?

You have admitted you don't understand drugs and addiction very well. For that you've clawed back some respect with me.

Have you considered that some people are forced into drug use against their will?

Prohibition NEVER works. Ultra conservative nations like Saudi claim not to have addiction issues, but it's a lie. Where there is demand, there is supply. Only we're giving criminals money instead of using our collective brain power.

Arresting small scale cannabis dealers, wasting police resources on the least harmful drugs. Selling one of the worst en masse the world over. It makes no sense.

There is no evidence to prove that user numbers would rise, but if they did.. The drugs would be cleaner, the death toll would be lower.

Have you considered who is stopping it from becoming legalized? Who shuts down every debate on it?

Politicians with vested interests. On the payroll of American private prison system or big pharmaceutical companies. Without petty dealers to arrest, they'd make less profit. Cannabis and Ecstasy could replace many pharmaceutical drugs and lead to loss of profits.

Have you considered the deaths of our police officers, soldiers and the young men and women as they go to war with in countries like Mexico and Columbia? How much money the companies that supply the hardware needed to fight a war on drugs make each year? They've supplied Thailand, Colombia and a host of other nations with a fully kitted out military. MASSIVE MONEY. MASSIVE LOSS OF LIFE.

For what? Some prat who doesn't have a clue saying "Drugs are mmmmmmmk" because they believe crap on TV. Have no compassion or empathy because they don't understand. People like that are as big a part of the problem as the users themselves in my humble opinion. Nothing in this world is black and white. Punishing and addict for being an addict? You may as we punch someone with dementia for being forgetful! "

What pharmaceutical drugs would Ecstasy replace?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"National service

Is that National Service for everyone or just the so called Druggies ?

If you put a load of people in an Highly trained, Highly motivated organisation, that simply don't want to be there, it will soon drag it down.

BTW the Military also have drug issues.

Plus, putting drug addicts in an environment where there are guns and explosives probably isn't a great idea either "

I told my Sergeant Major I was smoking cannabis. I also told him I had zero intentions of stopping.

I took a drugs test and passed it. Even though I'd been smoking for 6months.

I was on the rifle ranges the next day. With the rest of my squadron, all of whom knew. All of whom thought it was hilarious the Army gave me a gun.

I failed to pass that day, my shots were wide of the mark, but the boards went down after my 3rd retake.

It was a battle of will between my Sgt Mjr and I. He knew I was safe with a weapon, because he knew ME.

He passed my drugs test and my rifle range test. 5months later Iraq happened. I smoked right up to the moment I left.

Then in Iraq I stopped my piss head Staffy from killing people by refusing an order. Right thing to do. Proof of which was not getting a Court Martial.

My point being... Some people are high functioning addicts. They can afford their habits and operate as normal whilst under the influence. The main problem being a change in circumstances meaning lower incomes.. And an inability to afford to fund the addiction.

I only started smoking Weed to get myself kicked out of the Army. I enjoy it and I can drop it cold turkey for years at a time. I come back to it, because I prefer it to alcohol.

Tobacco though... That shots going to kill me.. And I've tried to stop a lot of times in my life. I can only imagine the pain someone with an addiction to Heroine, Crystal Meth, Crack Cocaine, Cocaine, Gambling, Food and all the other addictions worse than mine are. Or those in a worse place or less fortunate than I've been so far.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

If you get an std from fucking about on fab???

Yes, who else's fault is it?

So ppl with hiv/aids, who can't work, they don't have money, we just let them die? Because they had sex with the wrong person?

You are putting words into my mouth. You cannot infer this from any of my posts.

No but you could answer it an enlighten us? Show some compassion for your species maybe?

I would treat them and not let them die.

Does the punishment come before or after you treat them?

You have admitted you don't understand drugs and addiction very well. For that you've clawed back some respect with me.

Have you considered that some people are forced into drug use against their will?

Prohibition NEVER works. Ultra conservative nations like Saudi claim not to have addiction issues, but it's a lie. Where there is demand, there is supply. Only we're giving criminals money instead of using our collective brain power.

Arresting small scale cannabis dealers, wasting police resources on the least harmful drugs. Selling one of the worst en masse the world over. It makes no sense.

There is no evidence to prove that user numbers would rise, but if they did.. The drugs would be cleaner, the death toll would be lower.

Have you considered who is stopping it from becoming legalized? Who shuts down every debate on it?

Politicians with vested interests. On the payroll of American private prison system or big pharmaceutical companies. Without petty dealers to arrest, they'd make less profit. Cannabis and Ecstasy could replace many pharmaceutical drugs and lead to loss of profits.

Have you considered the deaths of our police officers, soldiers and the young men and women as they go to war with in countries like Mexico and Columbia? How much money the companies that supply the hardware needed to fight a war on drugs make each year? They've supplied Thailand, Colombia and a host of other nations with a fully kitted out military. MASSIVE MONEY. MASSIVE LOSS OF LIFE.

For what? Some prat who doesn't have a clue saying "Drugs are mmmmmmmk" because they believe crap on TV. Have no compassion or empathy because they don't understand. People like that are as big a part of the problem as the users themselves in my humble opinion. Nothing in this world is black and white. Punishing and addict for being an addict? You may as we punch someone with dementia for being forgetful!

What pharmaceutical drugs would Ecstasy replace? "

It's all there for you to read on the Internet. Same for Cannabis. Lots of clinical trials going on for various conditions. I couldn't tell you the names of I pharmaceutical drugs they have the POTENTIAL to replace. As they don't stick in my mind as easily. A lot of research has been done on LSD and it's possible uses in medicine.

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By * and M lookingCouple
over a year ago

Worcester

We should adopt a zero tolerance for ANY drugs.

The money we waste on so called rehab of addicts and the crime that comes with them could be far better spent.

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By *rbean69Man
over a year ago

Stroud


"

If you get an std from fucking about on fab???

Yes, who else's fault is it?

So ppl with hiv/aids, who can't work, they don't have money, we just let them die? Because they had sex with the wrong person?

You are putting words into my mouth. You cannot infer this from any of my posts.

No but you could answer it an enlighten us? Show some compassion for your species maybe?

I would treat them and not let them die.

Does the punishment come before or after you treat them?

You have admitted you don't understand drugs and addiction very well. For that you've clawed back some respect with me.

Have you considered that some people are forced into drug use against their will?

Prohibition NEVER works. Ultra conservative nations like Saudi claim not to have addiction issues, but it's a lie. Where there is demand, there is supply. Only we're giving criminals money instead of using our collective brain power.

Arresting small scale cannabis dealers, wasting police resources on the least harmful drugs. Selling one of the worst en masse the world over. It makes no sense.

There is no evidence to prove that user numbers would rise, but if they did.. The drugs would be cleaner, the death toll would be lower.

Have you considered who is stopping it from becoming legalized? Who shuts down every debate on it?

Politicians with vested interests. On the payroll of American private prison system or big pharmaceutical companies. Without petty dealers to arrest, they'd make less profit. Cannabis and Ecstasy could replace many pharmaceutical drugs and lead to loss of profits.

Have you considered the deaths of our police officers, soldiers and the young men and women as they go to war with in countries like Mexico and Columbia? How much money the companies that supply the hardware needed to fight a war on drugs make each year? They've supplied Thailand, Colombia and a host of other nations with a fully kitted out military. MASSIVE MONEY. MASSIVE LOSS OF LIFE.

For what? Some prat who doesn't have a clue saying "Drugs are mmmmmmmk" because they believe crap on TV. Have no compassion or empathy because they don't understand. People like that are as big a part of the problem as the users themselves in my humble opinion. Nothing in this world is black and white. Punishing and addict for being an addict? You may as we punch someone with dementia for being forgetful! "

Politicians with vested interest? Yes, absolutely, because many of the ruling class have a drug habit. Those who do not have friends who are junkies. And there is a very large "law and order industry" whose well-paid jobs are kept in being by recycling criminals. There has never been a "war on drugs" and there never will be as long as we continue to elect politicians who believe that the welfare of the criminal is more important than the welfare of his victims.

"Arresting small scale cannabis dealers, wasting police resources on the least harmful drugs." Exactly, these criminals are recycled. If all ADULT dealers of ILLEGAL drugs were executed, the problem would wither away.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

If you get an std from fucking about on fab???

Yes, who else's fault is it?

So ppl with hiv/aids, who can't work, they don't have money, we just let them die? Because they had sex with the wrong person?

You are putting words into my mouth. You cannot infer this from any of my posts.

No but you could answer it an enlighten us? Show some compassion for your species maybe?

I would treat them and not let them die.

Does the punishment come before or after you treat them?

You have admitted you don't understand drugs and addiction very well. For that you've clawed back some respect with me.

Have you considered that some people are forced into drug use against their will?

Prohibition NEVER works. Ultra conservative nations like Saudi claim not to have addiction issues, but it's a lie. Where there is demand, there is supply. Only we're giving criminals money instead of using our collective brain power.

Arresting small scale cannabis dealers, wasting police resources on the least harmful drugs. Selling one of the worst en masse the world over. It makes no sense.

There is no evidence to prove that user numbers would rise, but if they did.. The drugs would be cleaner, the death toll would be lower.

Have you considered who is stopping it from becoming legalized? Who shuts down every debate on it?

Politicians with vested interests. On the payroll of American private prison system or big pharmaceutical companies. Without petty dealers to arrest, they'd make less profit. Cannabis and Ecstasy could replace many pharmaceutical drugs and lead to loss of profits.

Have you considered the deaths of our police officers, soldiers and the young men and women as they go to war with in countries like Mexico and Columbia? How much money the companies that supply the hardware needed to fight a war on drugs make each year? They've supplied Thailand, Colombia and a host of other nations with a fully kitted out military. MASSIVE MONEY. MASSIVE LOSS OF LIFE.

For what? Some prat who doesn't have a clue saying "Drugs are mmmmmmmk" because they believe crap on TV. Have no compassion or empathy because they don't understand. People like that are as big a part of the problem as the users themselves in my humble opinion. Nothing in this world is black and white. Punishing and addict for being an addict? You may as we punch someone with dementia for being forgetful!

Politicians with vested interest? Yes, absolutely, because many of the ruling class have a drug habit. Those who do not have friends who are junkies. And there is a very large "law and order industry" whose well-paid jobs are kept in being by recycling criminals. There has never been a "war on drugs" and there never will be as long as we continue to elect politicians who believe that the welfare of the criminal is more important than the welfare of his victims.

"Arresting small scale cannabis dealers, wasting police resources on the least harmful drugs." Exactly, these criminals are recycled. If all ADULT dealers of ILLEGAL drugs were executed, the problem would wither away.

"

Take your head out of your arse man and try and see the world for what it really is.

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By (user no longer on site)
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"

If you get an std from fucking about on fab???

Yes, who else's fault is it?

So ppl with hiv/aids, who can't work, they don't have money, we just let them die? Because they had sex with the wrong person?

You are putting words into my mouth. You cannot infer this from any of my posts.

No but you could answer it an enlighten us? Show some compassion for your species maybe?

I would treat them and not let them die.

Does the punishment come before or after you treat them?

You have admitted you don't understand drugs and addiction very well. For that you've clawed back some respect with me.

Have you considered that some people are forced into drug use against their will?

Prohibition NEVER works. Ultra conservative nations like Saudi claim not to have addiction issues, but it's a lie. Where there is demand, there is supply. Only we're giving criminals money instead of using our collective brain power.

Arresting small scale cannabis dealers, wasting police resources on the least harmful drugs. Selling one of the worst en masse the world over. It makes no sense.

There is no evidence to prove that user numbers would rise, but if they did.. The drugs would be cleaner, the death toll would be lower.

Have you considered who is stopping it from becoming legalized? Who shuts down every debate on it?

Politicians with vested interests. On the payroll of American private prison system or big pharmaceutical companies. Without petty dealers to arrest, they'd make less profit. Cannabis and Ecstasy could replace many pharmaceutical drugs and lead to loss of profits.

Have you considered the deaths of our police officers, soldiers and the young men and women as they go to war with in countries like Mexico and Columbia? How much money the companies that supply the hardware needed to fight a war on drugs make each year? They've supplied Thailand, Colombia and a host of other nations with a fully kitted out military. MASSIVE MONEY. MASSIVE LOSS OF LIFE.

For what? Some prat who doesn't have a clue saying "Drugs are mmmmmmmk" because they believe crap on TV. Have no compassion or empathy because they don't understand. People like that are as big a part of the problem as the users themselves in my humble opinion. Nothing in this world is black and white. Punishing and addict for being an addict? You may as we punch someone with dementia for being forgetful!

What pharmaceutical drugs would Ecstasy replace?

It's all there for you to read on the Internet. Same for Cannabis. Lots of clinical trials going on for various conditions. I couldn't tell you the names of I pharmaceutical drugs they have the POTENTIAL to replace. As they don't stick in my mind as easily. A lot of research has been done on LSD and it's possible uses in medicine. "

Thanks, I'll have a look. Wouldn't it still be the pharmaceutical companies that would be manufacturing and selling them as a medicine though?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm being rude now.. Time to leave thread.

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By *stellaWoman
over a year ago

London

The psilocybin of magic mushrooms has been studied as a treatment for depression.

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By *rbean69Man
over a year ago

Stroud


"

For what? Some prat who doesn't have a clue saying "Drugs are mmmmmmmk" because they believe crap on TV. "

I got rid of my television years ago precisely because I don't believe the lies spouted by our liberal rulers.

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By *ineMan
over a year ago

In cave behind a waterfall on a hill

Segregated really?

That worked well in the US, and South Africa....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Exactly how are you going to know who,s a snack head or not? Blood tests before they enter the restricted area? "

Spike it. Then you'll know

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By *uzukiNo1Woman
over a year ago

Rhyl


"Exactly how are you going to know who,s a snack head or not? Blood tests before they enter the restricted area?

Spike it. Then you'll know "

I'd spike you......

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By *rbean69Man
over a year ago

Stroud


"It's all there for you to read on the Internet. Same for Cannabis. Lots of clinical trials going on for various conditions. I couldn't tell you the names of I pharmaceutical drugs they have the POTENTIAL to replace. As they don't stick in my mind as easily. A lot of research has been done on LSD and it's possible uses in medicine. "

I agree with you regarding the medical use of cannabis. The problem here arose from our rulers conflating medical and recreational use of cannabis. Contrast opiates, where doctors can prescribe for medical use, but recreational use is banned.

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By *stellaWoman
over a year ago

London

I wish those that had such rigid and punitive ideas about issues of those with substance misuse would actually come and spend time working with those who are struggling with addiction, meet the individuals and find out what their circumstances are. There’s such a distinct lack of understanding, knowledge and such judgement being shown. I pity people who are so minded.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

For what? Some prat who doesn't have a clue saying "Drugs are mmmmmmmk" because they believe crap on TV.

I got rid of my television years ago precisely because I don't believe the lies spouted by our liberal rulers."

You don't have a TV, but you're online on a sex site spouting this intolerant nonsense? Do you have a wireless? News papers? Friends? Or do you just think up the news yourself and impose it on the wise? Smh

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