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"Yes, I think that if I make a lot of money it will make the world a better place. The honor is in the dollar. That might sound like a short term concept, but it's actually a long term one. The savings and investments that make factories and pharmaceutical products make the world a nicer place for most people. If you think on it for long enough, you'll see that what we call 'Society' is basically this, with money being used as a medium to keep score." But many say money is the route of all evil | |||
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"Yes, I think that if I make a lot of money it will make the world a better place. The honor is in the dollar. That might sound like a short term concept, but it's actually a long term one. The savings and investments that make factories and pharmaceutical products make the world a nicer place for most people. If you think on it for long enough, you'll see that what we call 'Society' is basically this, with money being used as a medium to keep score. But many say money is the route of all evil" You mean the 'root', not the 'route'. You will notice that the people who espouse this philosophy never actually do it in practice. I don't have much time for such ideological children. | |||
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"Mainly, I try just to treat people the same way I wish to be treated, simple but thats me! "Bang on! We treat people how we would like to be treated or treat people how they treat us depending on circumstances. We have taught our kids to stick to their guns, work hard and be happy. Some see our kindness for weakness but that is their own short fall lol | |||
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"Yes, I think that if I make a lot of money it will make the world a better place. The honor is in the dollar. That might sound like a short term concept, but it's actually a long term one. The savings and investments that make factories and pharmaceutical products make the world a nicer place for most people. If you think on it for long enough, you'll see that what we call 'Society' is basically this, with money being used as a medium to keep score." Excuse me for seeming dense..Keep score on what? | |||
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"Yes, I think that if I make a lot of money it will make the world a better place. The honor is in the dollar. That might sound like a short term concept, but it's actually a long term one. The savings and investments that make factories and pharmaceutical products make the world a nicer place for most people. If you think on it for long enough, you'll see that what we call 'Society' is basically this, with money being used as a medium to keep score. Excuse me for seeming dense..Keep score on what?" On the division of labour. That is effectively what money exists in order to further the cause of. If you went back 300 years, there was about 10 or 15 different jobs you could do in the world. Today there are tens of thousands of jobs. A helluva lot more money too. More products, more services, longer life expectancy, better quality of life, less violence in society. All of those things are accomplished by a successful economy. Without money, savings, investments, it wouldn't happen at all. If you really want to understand my perspective I suggest you watch this short video on youtube, it's fascinating: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbkSRLYSojo Things have changed a lot, and there are reasons for that change, which a lot of people are frankly ignorant of today, they take the foundations of society entirely for granted and come out with outrageously stupid comments like "Money is evil". Same people were saying the same nonsense back in the Bible, it's nothing new. | |||
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"Yes, I think that if I make a lot of money it will make the world a better place. The honor is in the dollar. That might sound like a short term concept, but it's actually a long term one. The savings and investments that make factories and pharmaceutical products make the world a nicer place for most people. If you think on it for long enough, you'll see that what we call 'Society' is basically this, with money being used as a medium to keep score. Excuse me for seeming dense..Keep score on what? On the division of labour. That is effectively what money exists in order to further the cause of. If you went back 300 years, there was about 10 or 15 different jobs you could do in the world. Today there are tens of thousands of jobs. A helluva lot more money too. More products, more services, longer life expectancy, better quality of life, less violence in society. All of those things are accomplished by a successful economy. Without money, savings, investments, it wouldn't happen at all. If you really want to understand my perspective I suggest you watch this short video on youtube, it's fascinating: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbkSRLYSojo Things have changed a lot, and there are reasons for that change, which a lot of people are frankly ignorant of today, they take the foundations of society entirely for granted and come out with outrageously stupid comments like "Money is evil". Same people were saying the same nonsense back in the Bible, it's nothing new. " I'll pass on the vid. i don't think money's evil,I think it's necessary. but I also think to much of it corrupts | |||
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" You mean the 'root', not the 'route'. " Why did you feel the need correct this? For me, like others have said, treat people the way i would like to be treated. Manners, Respect, Humility. Money...means little to me, as long as i have a roof over my families head and food in there belly's im a content woman. kat x x | |||
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"Yes, I think that if I make a lot of money it will make the world a better place. The honor is in the dollar. That might sound like a short term concept, but it's actually a long term one. The savings and investments that make factories and pharmaceutical products make the world a nicer place for most people. If you think on it for long enough, you'll see that what we call 'Society' is basically this, with money being used as a medium to keep score. But many say money is the route of all evil You mean the 'root', not the 'route'. You will notice that the people who espouse this philosophy never actually do it in practice. I don't have much time for such ideological children." Excuse my grammer as I use JAWS and voice as I am registered blind. Such children as you put it were some of the greatest minds of their generations. I think it great that you want to help others if you had the money, but in my experience money usually changes people and not always for the better. | |||
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"Yes, I think that if I make a lot of money it will make the world a better place. The honor is in the dollar. That might sound like a short term concept, but it's actually a long term one. The savings and investments that make factories and pharmaceutical products make the world a nicer place for most people. If you think on it for long enough, you'll see that what we call 'Society' is basically this, with money being used as a medium to keep score. Excuse me for seeming dense..Keep score on what? On the division of labour. That is effectively what money exists in order to further the cause of. If you went back 300 years, there was about 10 or 15 different jobs you could do in the world. Today there are tens of thousands of jobs. A helluva lot more money too. More products, more services, longer life expectancy, better quality of life, less violence in society. All of those things are accomplished by a successful economy. Without money, savings, investments, it wouldn't happen at all. If you really want to understand my perspective I suggest you watch this short video on youtube, it's fascinating: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbkSRLYSojo Things have changed a lot, and there are reasons for that change, which a lot of people are frankly ignorant of today, they take the foundations of society entirely for granted and come out with outrageously stupid comments like "Money is evil". Same people were saying the same nonsense back in the Bible, it's nothing new. I'll pass on the vid. i don't think money's evil,I think it's necessary. but I also think to much of it corrupts" Then you are missing the big picture, and I might add, a positive message about the future of humankind that has real support behind it. It doesn't matter much to me or the world though, since the majority of people in our society don't approve of what they think the system is. Doesn't matter in the least. | |||
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"Mainly, I try just to treat people the same way I wish to be treated, simple but thats me! "+1 Couldn't agree more | |||
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"Mainly, I try just to treat people the same way I wish to be treated, simple but thats me!
Bang on!
We treat people how we would like to be treated or treat people how they treat us depending on circumstances.
We have taught our kids to stick to their guns, work hard and be happy.
Some see our kindness for weakness but that is their own short fall lol "What others think is not alway right as you well know. What some consider a weakness is probably your greatest strength. Your children are very lucky to have you as parents. | |||
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"Yes, I think that if I make a lot of money it will make the world a better place. The honor is in the dollar. That might sound like a short term concept, but it's actually a long term one. The savings and investments that make factories and pharmaceutical products make the world a nicer place for most people. If you think on it for long enough, you'll see that what we call 'Society' is basically this, with money being used as a medium to keep score. Excuse me for seeming dense..Keep score on what? On the division of labour. That is effectively what money exists in order to further the cause of. If you went back 300 years, there was about 10 or 15 different jobs you could do in the world. Today there are tens of thousands of jobs. A helluva lot more money too. More products, more services, longer life expectancy, better quality of life, less violence in society. All of those things are accomplished by a successful economy. Without money, savings, investments, it wouldn't happen at all. If you really want to understand my perspective I suggest you watch this short video on youtube, it's fascinating: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbkSRLYSojo Things have changed a lot, and there are reasons for that change, which a lot of people are frankly ignorant of today, they take the foundations of society entirely for granted and come out with outrageously stupid comments like "Money is evil". Same people were saying the same nonsense back in the Bible, it's nothing new. I'll pass on the vid. i don't think money's evil,I think it's necessary. but I also think to much of it corrupts Then you are missing the big picture, and I might add, a positive message about the future of humankind that has real support behind it. It doesn't matter much to me or the world though, since the majority of people in our society don't approve of what they think the system is. Doesn't matter in the least." I don't need to know the big picture,in fact i'm quite happy not to. I know who i am,what i've got and where i'm going.very little is gonna change that cos it's not important enough for the 'big picture' to affect it.i'm quite content with that. add to that the fact that i don't assume that the powers that be are telling me the truth i'll just bump along ta very much. this might sound like an odd question or it may not bur are you 'non european'? | |||
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"Yes, I think that if I make a lot of money it will make the world a better place. The honor is in the dollar. That might sound like a short term concept, but it's actually a long term one. The savings and investments that make factories and pharmaceutical products make the world a nicer place for most people. If you think on it for long enough, you'll see that what we call 'Society' is basically this, with money being used as a medium to keep score. But many say money is the route of all evil You mean the 'root', not the 'route'. You will notice that the people who espouse this philosophy never actually do it in practice. I don't have much time for such ideological children. Excuse my grammer as I use JAWS and voice as I am registered blind. Such children as you put it were some of the greatest minds of their generations. I think it great that you want to help others if you had the money, but in my experience money usually changes people and not always for the better. " I see, then it is quite understandable, the technology is imperfect, apologies for picking you up on it. It is perfectly possible for a great man to have many wonderful ideas, and be dead wrong about other things. Knowledge tends to be highly specialized, and often doesn't cross over between disciplines. I do not rely solely on my opinions about the world, I rely as much as I can on the statistics. It's only then you get closest to the truth. For example, 300 years ago, the average GDP growth was 0.02% per year, for the previous several thousand years. Thereafter it increased one hundred fold and permanently, year on year. I think that's an amazing thing. I think money had a lot to do with that, so I believe money to be a net social and economic force for the good. Money is a technology we have developed as part of a suite of related financial technology, and while it may be used for good or ill, the face remains we are obviously practically better off for the existence of it. | |||
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"Yes, I think that if I make a lot of money it will make the world a better place. The honor is in the dollar. That might sound like a short term concept, but it's actually a long term one. The savings and investments that make factories and pharmaceutical products make the world a nicer place for most people. If you think on it for long enough, you'll see that what we call 'Society' is basically this, with money being used as a medium to keep score. But many say money is the route of all evil You mean the 'root', not the 'route'. You will notice that the people who espouse this philosophy never actually do it in practice. I don't have much time for such ideological children. Excuse my grammer as I use JAWS and voice as I am registered blind. Such children as you put it were some of the greatest minds of their generations. I think it great that you want to help others if you had the money, but in my experience money usually changes people and not always for the better. I see, then it is quite understandable, the technology is imperfect, apologies for picking you up on it. It is perfectly possible for a great man to have many wonderful ideas, and be dead wrong about other things. Knowledge tends to be highly specialized, and often doesn't cross over between disciplines. I do not rely solely on my opinions about the world, I rely as much as I can on the statistics. It's only then you get closest to the truth. For example, 300 years ago, the average GDP growth was 0.02% per year, for the previous several thousand years. Thereafter it increased one hundred fold and permanently, year on year. I think that's an amazing thing. I think money had a lot to do with that, so I believe money to be a net social and economic force for the good. Money is a technology we have developed as part of a suite of related financial technology, and while it may be used for good or ill, the face remains we are obviously practically better off for the existence of it." Bet your a right laugh on meets | |||
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" I don't need to know the big picture,in fact i'm quite happy not to. I know who i am,what i've got and where i'm going.very little is gonna change that cos it's not important enough for the 'big picture' to affect it.i'm quite content with that. add to that the fact that i don't assume that the powers that be are telling me the truth i'll just bump along ta very much. this might sound like an odd question or it may not bur are you 'non european'?" You are free to make your own choices and I don't intend to impose my values on yours, that is the privilege of existing in a society that prizes western values like individualism. I don't agree at all obviously, but that's beside the point. And yes, you're right, that is a odd question. I am a European. | |||
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" I don't need to know the big picture,in fact i'm quite happy not to. I know who i am,what i've got and where i'm going.very little is gonna change that cos it's not important enough for the 'big picture' to affect it.i'm quite content with that. add to that the fact that i don't assume that the powers that be are telling me the truth i'll just bump along ta very much. this might sound like an odd question or it may not bur are you 'non european'? You are free to make your own choices and I don't intend to impose my values on yours, that is the privilege of existing in a society that prizes western values like individualism. I don't agree at all obviously, but that's beside the point. And yes, you're right, that is a odd question. I am a European." Then why do I read all your posts in Stephen Hawking's voice?
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" Bet your a right laugh on meets" I like ideas and systems. I'm not embarrassed by who I am. | |||
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"i know i'm going to sound picky......but it's not 'money is the root of all evil' but 'the LOVE of money is the root of all evil'....... "
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"Ok, so apparently some people are finding it very hard to accept a world _iew that isn't already their own. Seeing as the question was asked, it was perfectly reasonable to answer it with the truth. It's amazing how unpleasant supposedly tolerant people get when they actually do encounter somebody who doesn't agree at all with their POV. That, I think it's fair to call childish. " not sure if that post covers me but as I've said already I don't have a world _iew. Also it's only you _iew that it's the truth so why claim it as such? As you say later it's a POV. Or are you always right? | |||
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"Ok, so apparently some people are finding it very hard to accept a world _iew that isn't already their own. Seeing as the question was asked, it was perfectly reasonable to answer it with the truth. It's amazing how unpleasant supposedly tolerant people get when they actually do encounter somebody who doesn't agree at all with their POV. That, I think it's fair to call childish. " The truth according to who?? | |||
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"i know i'm going to sound picky......but it's not 'money is the root of all evil' but 'the LOVE of money is the root of all evil'....... "my mother always say if all the money was spread out equally within a few years five percent of people would have most of the money | |||
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"Ok, so apparently some people are finding it very hard to accept a world _iew that isn't already their own. Seeing as the question was asked, it was perfectly reasonable to answer it with the truth. It's amazing how unpleasant supposedly tolerant people get when they actually do encounter somebody who doesn't agree at all with their POV. That, I think it's fair to call childish. " Every though it might not be what your saying on the actual subject...... | |||
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"Ok, so apparently some people are finding it very hard to accept a world _iew that isn't already their own. Seeing as the question was asked, it was perfectly reasonable to answer it with the truth. It's amazing how unpleasant supposedly tolerant people get when they actually do encounter somebody who doesn't agree at all with their POV. That, I think it's fair to call childish. not sure if that post covers me but as I've said already I don't have a world _iew. Also it's only you _iew that it's the truth so why claim it as such? As you say later it's a POV. Or are you always right? " I wasn't referring to yourself. I am not really a moral relativist. There are some things in this world which are simply true. I think some things are true. There is always the possibility, always, that I am dead wrong. That is why I focus on statistics when investigating a subject. I don't have a monopoly on the truth, but neither does anybody else. It's the people who assume something is true because everybody tells them it is, that are often the cause of the world's real problems. An example: The idea that the government is 'bad' or 'good', or that the black market is 'bad' or 'good' is nonsense. It really depends on what is really going on, and you'll only find that by looking at the data. e.g. a certain professor recently said the data doesn't support the illegalization of MDMA for example. Yet, he was stomped on like a ton of bricks by the government. I trust, somebody who attempts to look at reality, over a large group of people who assume a given assertion is true, any day of the week. Again, this is not moral relativism, this is simply not being intellectually lazy. | |||
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"Ok, so apparently some people are finding it very hard to accept a world _iew that isn't already their own. Seeing as the question was asked, it was perfectly reasonable to answer it with the truth. It's amazing how unpleasant supposedly tolerant people get when they actually do encounter somebody who doesn't agree at all with their POV. That, I think it's fair to call childish. Every though it might not be what your saying on the actual subject......" At the end of the day everyone has there own opion, some might agree some may not. I never let it bother me, I could get married if I wanted someone to get under my skin. | |||
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"Mainly, I try just to treat people the same way I wish to be treated, simple but thats me! "Yeah. Works for me! | |||
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"I try just to treat people the same way I wish to be treated and i have to be true to myself . I will not lick up to people to be part of a group to fit in .... I have to be me." +1 | |||
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"Following on from another topic. Do you have a moral code that you try to follow. What is it and do you manage on the whole to follow it. My grand dad's drilled into us, to stand for what we consider right and hold fast. It is something I have always tried to follow, it has gotten me into trouble at times but I have always held my head up and taken the consequences if it turned out I was wrong" Many of my values come from my Grandad, he was a pacifist and socilaist after his experiences in Burma after the war. He believed in people and that only by co operation could society avoid the mistakes of his generation. He also taught me not to borrow...still wont buy anything unless i can pay for it in full. He also made me aware that it is not what people do as a job that matters but their actions. | |||
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"Following on from another topic. Do you have a moral code that you try to follow. What is it and do you manage on the whole to follow it. My grand dad's drilled into us, to stand for what we consider right and hold fast. It is something I have always tried to follow, it has gotten me into trouble at times but I have always held my head up and taken the consequences if it turned out I was wrong And do you manage to follow them Many of my values come from my Grandad, he was a pacifist and socilaist after his experiences in Burma after the war. He believed in people and that only by co operation could society avoid the mistakes of his generation. He also taught me not to borrow...still wont buy anything unless i can pay for it in full. He also made me aware that it is not what people do as a job that matters but their actions. " | |||
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"Yes, I think that if I make a lot of money it will make the world a better place. The honor is in the dollar. That might sound like a short term concept, but it's actually a long term one. The savings and investments that make factories and pharmaceutical products make the world a nicer place for most people. If you think on it for long enough, you'll see that what we call 'Society' is basically this, with money being used as a medium to keep score. But many say money is the route of all evil You mean the 'root', not the 'route'. You will notice that the people who espouse this philosophy never actually do it in practice. I don't have much time for such ideological children." i think correcting the spelling of someone who uses voice technology due to their blindness is rather crass  | |||
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"Yes, I think that if I make a lot of money it will make the world a better place. The honor is in the dollar. That might sound like a short term concept, but it's actually a long term one. The savings and investments that make factories and pharmaceutical products make the world a nicer place for most people. If you think on it for long enough, you'll see that what we call 'Society' is basically this, with money being used as a medium to keep score. But many say money is the route of all evil You mean the 'root', not the 'route'. You will notice that the people who espouse this philosophy never actually do it in practice. I don't have much time for such ideological children. i think correcting the spelling of someone who uses voice technology due to their blindness is rather crass "Human nature to judge, my nature to smile and be happy and not let it bother me. | |||
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my mother always say if all the money was spread out equally within a few years five percent of people would have most of the money"Sorry to quote u nuc, but i cannot find the person saying that the original quote is love of money is the root of all evil... This was of course a get out preached at various times, but is not what Jesus said. He consistently attacked the rich who could stand by and see suffering.He saw wealth and the accumulation of it as a barrier to faith. See passages such as "No one can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and Money."Mathew 6 26 or If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me. 22 But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions. Mathew 19 It is true that in timothy it says... For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs. St paul was writing to a young man, giving him personal advice on how he should order his life. | |||
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"Yes, I think that if I make a lot of money it will make the world a better place. The honor is in the dollar. That might sound like a short term concept, but it's actually a long term one. The savings and investments that make factories and pharmaceutical products make the world a nicer place for most people. If you think on it for long enough, you'll see that what we call 'Society' is basically this, with money being used as a medium to keep score. But many say money is the route of all evil You mean the 'root', not the 'route'. You will notice that the people who espouse this philosophy never actually do it in practice. I don't have much time for such ideological children. i think correcting the spelling of someone who uses voice technology due to their blindness is rather crass
Human nature to judge, my nature to smile and be happy and not let it bother me."Fair enough, you certainly dont need me to fight your battles...but i hope u dont mind me mentioning it | |||
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"Yes, I think that if I make a lot of money it will make the world a better place. The honor is in the dollar. That might sound like a short term concept, but it's actually a long term one. The savings and investments that make factories and pharmaceutical products make the world a nicer place for most people. If you think on it for long enough, you'll see that what we call 'Society' is basically this, with money being used as a medium to keep score. But many say money is the route of all evil You mean the 'root', not the 'route'. You will notice that the people who espouse this philosophy never actually do it in practice. I don't have much time for such ideological children. i think correcting the spelling of someone who uses voice technology due to their blindness is rather crass
Human nature to judge, my nature to smile and be happy and not let it bother me.
Fair enough, you certainly dont need me to fight your battles...but i hope u dont mind me mentioning it"Of course not good to know that people are bothered | |||
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"But many say money is the route of all evil" And they say it wrong. The bible says 1 Timothy 6:10 "For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows." When you put money before other stuff, is when trouble starts. Terry Pratchett also said it well, when a character said "Sin starts when you start treating people as things" Personally I was raised Methodist which influences my moral compass, but I am now an atheist. I try to do the right thing, because it's the right thing to do, not because of a big beard in the sky is watching me. | |||
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